This is my live account from the Georgia Partnership on Excellence in Education daylong media symposium Friday featuring education movers and shakers
First up is Dr. Dana Rickman, policy and research director for the partnership, on the Top Ten Education Issues to Watch in 2013.
Please note that all these comments are from the speakers today, not from me. (I did add a few comments, but I clearly designate them as mine.) I am writing as folks speak and may miss a typo but will go back during the breaks and clean this up.
Top 10 issues, says Rickman:
Race to the Top: Halfway through implementing grant. Where do we stand?
Elevating low performing schools. Will require high performing teachers and leaders.
How do we pay for k-12 eduction? (”I don’t know,” says Rickman. “That really is the answer to that question.”)
Help wanted: Hiring 250,000 new graduates. Where are they? Only 42 percent has a college degree; State needs 250,000 more graduates.
Early learning: What this issue focuses on is high quality learning from the zero to age 3 population.
Stem: Promoting the sciences and math for both workforce and economic development. Fastest growing job fields in state and nation. What is Georgia doing to promote STEM learning?
Waiver from No Child and what it means.
Technology; the next generation of learning. How is technology being used in classroom?
Flexibility and choice.
Final issue: Demographics; Changing face of Georgia public schools. Tremendous demographic shift within Georgia. For all these reforms to be successful and for education continue to improve from birth through work, we need to pay attention to those demographic shifts, says Rickman.
Rickman says her major concern is the growth of children living in poverty in Georgia. The key to economic development is a strong education system. Children in poverty undermine a strong education system as they are harder to educate, need more resources.
Rickman is now delving into a few of these issues, starting with the state’s waiver from No Child Left Behind. (Georgia is among 33 states that earned already earned waivers. Seven more state waivers are pending.)
Under AYP, proficiency goal was all students proficient by 2014. No longer under that mandate. Now, the goal for Georgia is to reduce the number of non-proficient student within six years.
There are four performance categories of schools, three of which only apply to Title 1 schools. The categories include reward schools, which are high performing or show the greatest gains among cohorts. Second category is priority, which means the school falls in bottom five percent and has one of these three liabilities: low graduation rates, lack of progress or received a school improvement grant. A focus school is also only Title 1. Schools have to be in bottom 10 percent and either suffer low grad rates or a wide achievement gap
The last category is alert and applies to all schools: This is calculated by grad rates and test scores lower than the stage average.
Rickman also went through the state’s new career ready performance index, which has many moving parts.
The state has a complex, holistic formula to rank schools that includes student achievement, progress, an achievement gap closing score, an exceeding the bar score. The states also assigns ratings for financial efficiency and the school climate.
“It is very complicated but what the state was trying to do is get away from good school, bad school, pass, fail,” says Rickman, “and use this as a learning tool for the districts and the schools.”
Jumping in is Dorie Turner Nolt, the assistant director of communications for the state Department of Education. (She is the former education reporter for the Associated Press and covered Arne Duncan and Race to the Top.)
Nolt said the complexity and shadings within theses ratings will be channeled into an easier-to-understand format for parents.
Morris News Service reporter Walter Jones just asked Rickman what parents can do if they are not happy with their school. She says she recommends parents join the PTA and get involved and try to push change. Another reporter asked now what parents can do if they have gotten involved and are still unhappy. (These reporters come across the state so I don’t know all of them.)
Rickman says parents can choose another option for their child. She says there are choice options now in Georgia.
Now, she is being asked what the penalties are if schools don’t make the grade. Are there punishments?
Rickman said the response will not be punishment, but intervention by the state for schools in trouble, whether Title 1 or not.
My former AJC colleague Maria Saporta just asked about the impact of kids in poverty.
Rickman warms to this topic as she says it is pivotal to the future of education in Georgia.
–60 percent of our kids in public schools qualify for free and reduced lunch, a 10 percent increase since 2007. That is going to have a big impact because of the resources required to bring poor kids up to speed.
–56 percent of students in k-12 are non-white. “We have a diverse, increasingly poor population that our schools are trying to educate.” She says investing in early education for low-income kids brings a $7 return for every dollar spent. She says schools need more bilingual teachers.
Overall, Rickman says she is pleased with policies that the state has put in place. But says we have to keep an eye on the shifting demographics, as these kids present greater needs and we have to see what teachers ought to have to address these students. She is now done speaking.
Now up is Race to the Top update, presented by Dr. Susan Andrews, Georgia Department of Education.
She is talking about the online resources for teachers, including standards and student performance.
She is explaining that the DOE Office for School Turnaround was created to provide concentrated effort at the school level to help priority schools, which are those identified as lowest achieving – defined as the lowest 5 percent in state in achievement or having less than a 60 percent high school graduation rates.
On how to create great teachers and leaders: “We expect more authentic assessments, more project-based learning. We expect teachers to differentiate because of the differences in ability and achievement levels of their students. We have to train them to do this. This is a new way to teach school.”
State intends to measure how much a student grows while in a teacher’s classroom. Based on student growth and observations, teachers will be rated exemplary, proficient, needs development or ineffective. (See earlier blog on problems with this teacher evaluation measure.) Once they are evaluated, top performing teachers will receive bonuses through Race to the Top.
Principals will do two 30 minute observation sessions of each teacher. There are also four 10-minute walk-throughs where principals are looking at one or two standards in action. If principal does not see enough evidence when he or she visits the classroom, then the teachers will have an opportunity to provide documentation that they are meeting the standard.
For first time: Value-added piece will be added to teacher evaluations. If teacher teaches tested subject, CRCT or EOCT, then they will have a student growth percentile that says “Here is where that student scored on prior test and here is where that student scored today.”
For teacher teaching in non-tested subjects — 70 percent of courses in a school , including art music, AP class, IB classes, foreign language are in the non-tests category — state is now developing pre and post tests for those courses. They are called SLOs, Student learning objectives.
State is dealing with findings from pilot information on teacher evaluations. This year will be a hold-harmless year for value-added measures. In 2013-2014, state will have student surveys and value-added impact. In 2013-2014, state will have that whole piece. The following year, the bonuses will begin.
Now Andrews is talking about the companion evaluation system to measure leader effectiveness.
This is for building-level leadership. Principals will be rated on eight standards. They must meet all eight of those standards. They also have to develop two unique goals tied to their own school improvement plan. Every staff member, including cafeteria, custodians, completes a climate survey on the principal. Principal will choose which groups will rate assistant principal. Principal evaluations will look at student attendance. Also, look at how effective principals are in retaining effective teachers.
“We know that teachers leave leaders first. So, we want to see how effective principals are in retaining those effective teachers.”
Also, state will look at student performance piece for principals. Looking at how the achievement gap between bottom 25 percent and rest of students in the schools is being closed.
So, now, we have both teacher and leader effectiveness measures.
“Race to the Top is not driving the work. The work is driving Race to the Top. These are initiatives we wanted to do. We didn’t have the money to do them. Race to the Top gave us the money.”
Greatest challenge with Race to the Top is moving from piloting, refining, implementing to sustaining.
In the Q&A, I asked Andrews about the Gates Foundation report released this week advising that outsiders do some of the classroom observations to prevent bias, and that districts, pressed for time, consider video reviews of teachers in the classrooms.
My main question: Do principals really have the time to do these observations?
Her answer: It make take a culture shift but principals have to realize that their top priority, along with ensuring their school buildings are safe, is instruction, and they must make time for these teacher observations. No, DOE has not considered bringing in outsiders to observe teachers or using videos of teachers. But DOE is still discussing how best to do this.
Now up: Education Policy – Kristin Bernhard, Governor’s Education Adviser
Bernhard is full of good news only about education and her boss.
Gov. Nathan Deal is restoring 10 days of pre-k, which she casts as a raise for those teachers. (Me: Those teachers may feel it is a restoration of some of the salary they lost when Deal cut pre-k by 20 days.)
“We are interested in improving student achievement in STEM fields.” She cites a speech by Gov. Perdue where he noted that Georgia only graduated one physics teacher that year.
She cites the UTeach Programs under way in some Georgia colleges to identify and direct science majors to teaching. “We are a long way from those days. I think we have over 100 students enrolled in those programs,” she says.
She says high-definition networks are enabling college professors to teach science classes to rural students through the Innovative Fund.
Bernhard says she has every reason to believe that the new charter schools commission, restored by the November constitutional amendment, will be up and running by March.
She says we have seamless articulation from technical colleges and four-year schools as part of Deal’s Complete College Initiative. She said Deal was inspired by Florida’s Take Stock in Children program, and has replicated it here. Kids selected in middle school are asked to sign contracts that they will work hard. If they have satisfied the contract and worked hard by the end of high school, they are given $2,500 from the state to attend college.(You can read about the program here.)
Deal has set higher goals for college completion rates to get those 250,000 more college graduates needed to fill the jobs of the future in the state, most of which will require education beyond high school.
Deal’s Higher Education Funding Commission has recommended fundamental changes in how public campuses are funded. Now, college funding will depend in large part on how many students finish rather than how many enroll.
HOPE: Deal is adding 3 percent to HOPE Scholarship awards this year. But tuition has gone up more than 3 percent. “What a student got last year will increase by 3 percent in terms of this year,” says Bernhard.
NOTE from me: My AJC colleague Nancy Badertscher has asked a series of tough questions, attempting to find news in what thus far has been pretty surface and pretty news-free. She pressed Bernhard as the governor’s budget and his funding plans for k-12, but Bernhard said that Deal would be the one to unveil his budget
Now up, Education Funding – Herb Garrett, Executive Director, Georgia School Superintendents’ Assn.
Garrett is the anti Bernhard speaker. He is sharing the bad news.
Cuts thus far to k-12: $6.6 billion. “It is like the national budget deficit. Those numbers are so big that they don’t mean anything to anybody anymore.”
One pressure on the state budget will be the $28 million needed to fund state charter schools, those charter schools that the state has adopted and agreed to fund.
Garrett raised the issue of the new title fee for cars that replaces the ad valorem taxes, part of which went to fund schools. “There is supposed to be enough money to give back the money school systems lost on ad valorem taxes. That should be a wash. But I will promise you that the individuals that trade cars under the oak trees, those casual sales going on in Georgia for a million years that we haven’t taxed, aren’t going to be happy. When that person goes to get that title, then they have to pay the fee on the fair market value of that car.”
Garrett predicts that angry car buyers — it is a pretty hefty title fee buyers will now have to pay for any car purchase, even from private owners — will be calling their legislators, and some lawmakers may get cold feed and back off the fee. If so, school systems could lose out.
Garrett said the private school tax credit — taking $50 million a year from the state coffers — will be an issue this year as some lawmakers are seeking to double it. Garrett wishes there was more sunshine as to who gets this tax credit.
Since 2008, individuals and corporations have claimed about $170 million in tax credits through the program. The program had a $51.5 million cap this year, but the program was so popular that the money ran out in mid-August.
He is talking about the PARCC testing consortium, which is developing the test that Georgia will use to measure the Common Core.
“One of the things that nobody is talking about is the anticipated cost of that test. Last number I heard is $15 per student. We’ve got legislators who already think we spend way too much on testing and I can promise you that is nowhere close to $15.”
Also, Garrett says the $100 per child given to charter systems may be a problem now that bigger systems — including Fulton — are becoming charter systems. With Fulton, that $100 per child turns into an extra $10 million a year for the state.
One of the elephants in the room, he says, is raises. State employees and teachers haven’t had raises for years.
State vs. local in school funding:
“It’s fact that responsibility for paying for the cost for public education has been shift dramatically from the state to local systems The numbers don’t lie.”
Prior to 2003, the overall split in school funding between state and local dollars was 60/40 on average, 60 percent state dollars and 40 local dollars raised through property taxes.
(Garrett: That ratio varies from system to system depending on how much local money districts put into their schools. State money represents only 33 percent of what Fulton spends, while Ben Hill County’s state share represents about 80 percent of its school spending.)
Now, that ratio has shifted, with local money slightly outpacing the state share of education funding. To understand why that matters, Garrett said each school funding percentage point shifted from the state to the locals represents more than $100 million dollars.
That is why districts have raised school taxes. Average school millage rate across state was 15. Now, it is 16.1.
(From state web site: The tax rate, or millage, in each county is set annually by the board of county commissioners, or other governing authority of the taxing jurisdiction, and by the Board of Education. A tax rate of one mill represents a tax liability of one dollar per $1,000 of assessed value. The average county and municipal millage rate is 30 mills; the state millage rate in each county is 0.25 mills.)
But 41 school systems levy 18 mils or more. Of those 41 systems, 11 levy 19 mills or more; 11 others levy 20 mils or more. There is a 20 mil cap except for a handful of systems that got their voters to approve a 25 mil cap.
Questions: What does Garrett think of Law proposing to arm principals in schools?
Qualifies that he is answering for himself and not for the Georgia Superintendents Association:
“Having a person in school with a gun and minimal training, what could go wrong? I would never recommend that to a board of education.” As he listened to the proposals to arm administrators, Garrett says he went back to his own days as a principal and school chief and started putting names and people to the idea.
“Even with training, I just can’t see some folks ever being in that position to be able to do that.”
Police have said that if there is an armed school administrator and officers come roaring, how do they know if that person is on their side? Garrett says the situation could be confusing and dangerous.
“Unless it is a uniform officer that nobody has enough money to pay for, I am not sure how to do that,” says Garrett.
Now up, Georgia’s 2013 Teacher of the Year Lauren Eckman:
Her theme is the changing classroom and changing schools. She has a prepared and passionate speech, which essentially says the old ways won’t work with students. Content is no longer delivered as much as it is discovered. There is an app for everything.
“Education is no longer one size fits all, which, if we are honest, is really one size fits none.”
In answering questions, she says she is excited about Common Core; “I like the clarity of them. I like the depth of them. They really get into the nitty-gritty and into the good stuff in each of our subjects.”
Asked about the new teacher evaluation system, Eckman says she like the new system better than Class Keys which “told us so much, it told us nothing.” The new method gives teachers more feedback, more meaningful insights in what they must improve.
She also says that in her travels she has met many teachers who are positive and committed. She has not seen low morale.
Eckman says that the state is about to graduate its first class of high school school students who are truly digital natives, raised with all the new technologies and at ease with them. When these digital natives go to college and become teachers, they will bring their expertise to the classroom and be able to share it with veteran teachers, she says.
Dr. John Barge, State Superintendent of Schools, could not make it as he had to go to Washington. Chief Academic Officer Mike Buck stepped in and went through all the trend lines showing Georgia schools are improving. He stressed that Georgia is not where it should be, but is headed in the right direction.
He was elaborating on the career pathways, in which kids pick a high school concentration in 8th grade. (Me: That seems awfully early to me for children to declare that they want a health concentration. Public school students will pick a potential job to pursue in one of 17 broad career categories, known as career pathway clusters. Teachers would start talking to students about potential career opportunities, starting as early as fifth grade. I think focusing on a career option in 8th grade narrows children’s perspective. It is still unclear based on what Buck said here that who will serve as the kids’ career advisers. Apparently, it will be teachers who will have to carve out time.)
What’s Ahead for Education in the 2013 Legislative Session – Rep. Stacey Abrams and Rep. Ed Lindsey:
Abrams: My goal is make certain education doesn’t suffer in the budget. We have never funded education fully.
“Too often, we concentrate so fixedly on a single measure that we ignore the comprehensive needs. The fact is that charter schools, while a good option, are not a panacea. They overall serve students as well as traditional public schools. We should not get so caught up in the over-hyped nature of the debate that we ignore the fundamental responsibility we have to educate children.
Other concern: The tax credit to attend private schools, which she called a pseudo voucher program, is now viewed as an entitlement by the public.
“It would be hard to get rid of it, but we need transparency so we are making certain those dollars aren’t being used to discriminate against students. Because of the way law was constructed, can’t get data we need on those dollars,” she says.
Lindsey:
Charter school vote was really a vote on status of public education in Georgia. “With a 67 percent statewide graduation rate, the status quo is both morally and economically unacceptable. I agree charter schools drowned out all other discussions in the recent political election, but I never believed charter schools are a panacea or a silver bullet.”
Pre-k is important. Need a vigorous curriculum in pre-k programs. Many others just serve as daycare centers.
Lawmakers are taking questions.
Lindsey and Abrams are disagreeing on whether Legislature has cut education. Lindsey says the money per student was actually higher, but delivered in targeted programs rather than block grants.
Parent Trigger:
Lindsey addresses why his bill allows even a high performing school to convert to a charter school by parental will
“It creates an additional avenue of communication directly from the parents to the school board, which I think is critically important.”
Lindsey also wants teachers to be able to initiate a takeover of a school and a charter conversion.
He says there is a check and balance in his bill as the school board has the discretion to accept or reject the parental petition.
Why include high performing schools in the bill?
“Every parent ought to be encouraged in their child’s education. I find it interesting that parents may actually spend more time talking to their school board about the quality of their child’s education.”
Abrams: We don’t have adequate structures in place to manage our charter schools. Florida faced issues with its for-profit charters. If we are going to make it easier to do this, we have to make certain that we create adequate protections the day after.
Lindsey: Warns about the forces of the status quo throwing up roadblocks to innovation.
Q: Couldn’t the parent trigger bill divide schools?
If parents are not happy with the conversion to a charter school, their child would be able to move to a different school under the bill.
Bottom line, Lindsey says his bill fosters parent involvement.
Would Lindsey support doubling the private tax credit?
Lindsey says he shares both Abrams’ concerns about the lack of data and transparency around the tax credit and her questions about whether safeguards are in place to ensure the tax credit is truly helping poor kids go to private schools. “Certainly, before I would vote to increase the threshold, I would like to see those additional things put in place.”
Abrams: Doesn’t imbue the November charter school vote with the same significance as Lindsey does. “We can’t over-read that election. That said, there is not a member of the Georgia General Assembly who can say we do our best by the children of Georgia, that education in Georgia is where it should be.”
Lindsey: Disagrees that people didn’t understand the ballot question on charter schools. “If it fooled the voters, it should have fooled all the voters around the state. If you start drilling down, it wasn’t logical that a 58 percent vote in favor of this amendment was because voters were fooled…we had a full and robust debate around this.”
Guns in school:
Lindsey says it should be a local decision. Many schools already have armed officers.
–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog
164 comments Add your comment
Dr. Monica Henson
January 14th, 2013
1:05 pm
Wow! some very cool topics, and me with no time to address them today.
Back-to-back meetings until 5, then a speaking engagement. I’ll try to jump online tonight late and offer my thoughts. Private Citizen raises some fascinating issues that I really would like to chew on, because they mirror (in part) some of my own thinking.
Jim Rago
January 14th, 2013
3:10 pm
Our Education system is being overwhelmed due to the fact that people having larger families than they can afford to provide for…..The State of Georgia needs to limit the number of children people are having…..I wanted four children, but after our second child we realize how expensive it is raising children…so we stopped because we wanted to provide a certain standard for are children…… Today you have people who are currently on government subsidies struggling to feed and clothe their children and they’ll go around and have more children. Because it’s Uncle Sam’s responsibility to raise their family this is BS. During tough economic times yes Uncle Sam’s should assist but it’s now the standard thinking that Uncle Sam’s responsible for raising my family. Look at the idiot in Kentucky that had 33 children by 11 different women. Do the math and see how much it’s going to cost tax payers to pay for his family until they reach the age to 18 or better and you’re wondering why our system is broke…….
Private Citizen
January 14th, 2013
7:01 pm
Dr. Henson, Thank you for the affirmation. It will interesting to hear your commentary on what you think is resonant / relevant.
N. GA Teacher
January 15th, 2013
12:10 am
Notice that these “top ten concerns” types aren’t teachers. The “observations of the standards being taught” carries an implicit, insulting implication that teachers are NOT teaching what is “supposed” to be taught, and carries the same petty reek as “wanting to see student work posted”, “pretests and posttests” (which are unreliable due to student motivation at the moment) and rating teachers as “emergent, efficient, etc.” If you take a survey of teachers, you will get the “real” top ten concerns. First, restore teachers to the professional status they had in the 1950s-1980s. Nobody micromanages accountants, lawyers, nurses, engineers and other professionals. Believe me, teachers KNOW what and how they are supposed to be teaching. Principals, by all means visit the classes to express positive support and gratitude towards your staff, to see innovation, to send the kids the message that the administration is always watching for misbehaviors. By all means make suggestions for improvement to teachers, especially if you taught the same material for years prior to your admin job. Second, why aren’t DISCIPLINE and CONSEQUENCES mentioned? The reason we all look back at the 50s-70s as a sort of golden age is largely due to the fact that the great majority of our students were firmly disciplined at home and school. Those few who disrupted classrooms and disrespected teachers and property were EXPELLED. (Not given “ISS”, a stupid invention of the last 10-20 years, probably because overly liberal courts stopped expulsions). The judge, ironically, doubtless sends his kids to a private school that DOES expel troublemakers. Along with behavioral discipline comes academic discipline, meaning that we should expect kids to MAKE AN EFFORT in class and on homework. A lot of well-meaning people will say “well, the home lives are too chaotic, unsupportive, too poor, etc.). Yeah, maybe, but there were an awful lot of really wretched home lives in the depression, and during the second world war, and in the Jim Crow era, and during the great rust belt layoffs of the 70s. Yet those families and kids sucked it up if they wanted to stay in school. Why do private schools, many magnet schools, and many charter school work, as well as many places of business? The ultimate threat of expulsion/firing!! Third, funding is a problem, but a lot of the problem is allocation and ridiculous rules that limit allocations and revenue sources. Last, “technology” is a great buzzword for educrats, but students equate technology with entertainment (texting) from iphones and using facebook. Once they discover that REAL technology (calculations, spreadsheets, programming, CAD/CAM, surveying, physics and chemistry experiments and analyses, technical writing and editing, etc.) requires serious effort and study, then that turns us back to the discipline issues.
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
1:34 am
“pretests and posttests” (which are unreliable due to student motivation at the moment)
No, silly. They’re unreliable because individual teachers are expected to write or furnish the pre-tests and post-tests, just like they author or locate their own teaching materials. Therefore, there is less that zero statistical relevance to this disorganised mess / mandating pre-test and post-test, more time to make teachers “do things” per micromanaging while denying organization or source materials. I realised this quick during the go-’rounds of emphasis on “pre-test” / “post-test” and the bosses role playing play-acting that they are going to assemble the resultant “data” for some kind of result, meanwhile each teacher is inventing their own pre-tests and post-tests. Seriously, when this was happening, I was immediately, like, “Wth, Are the bosses complete idiots with swiss cheese in place of brains?” That’s how Georgia is set-up, with these literally idiotic mandates from the bosses and in this case, it is so bald faced in not computing, it just leaves a person speechless. There are definitely some externalities created by this sort of thing: ulcers and depression for the workers. And yes, I’ve taken 4 graduate level statistics courses and I’ve got complete frickin’ idiots in both the main district office and then their lackies in the school house telling me what to do.
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
1:41 am
Unsupported mandates are one thing. Claiming you are going to make “data” out of unsupported mandates without coordination of materials is pure fantasy. When applied to a professional environment, someone should walk down to the courthouse and pay the fifty bucks and put them in court for forcing people to do things that makes no sense. It is like these visionary bosses plant tadpoles and tell everybody we’re going to be eating tomato sandwiches. It’s friggin’ ridiculous.
Dr. Monica Henson
January 15th, 2013
9:05 pm
“Continuing with the concept of looking at teachers as doctors, is there any doctor where a manager comes in with a checklist to evaluate their medical work based on patient interaction, emotional climate, etc.?”
I happen to very much like the metaphor of teachers as doctors, because I like the concept of the teaching hospital, where practicing physicians instruct and guide the next generation, inducting them into the practice of medicine. I also would like to see teachers be much better educated & prepared before they are permitted to run their own classrooms without substantial oversight. Physicians must complete a bachelor’s degree, several years’ graduate school, internship, and residency before they are certified as practicing doctors. HUGE difference between that and what a typical K12 teacher is required to do. To answer your question: yes, there are environments where physicians are in fact subjected to managerial oversight–hospitals and franchise operations. In hospitals that receive federal reimbursement, the Affordable Care Act now requires patient surveys to be administered and the results reported to the federal government. Hospitals that don’t meet minimum patient satisfaction standards risk losing federal reimbursement.
“Are teachers independent practitioners? When you have twenty teachers each teaching the same subject and grade level and each doing something different because they must design and furnish their own teaching materials? Yes, they are independent practitioners. Usually doctors, yes also work alone, and are telling other people what to do, and would not put up with a manager who is not a doctor coming into their treatment room and evaluating them based on a checklist or ‘1 hour observation.’”
Physicians who practice medicine alone or in groups with other physicians are responsible for the operation of a business, which is quite complex, even for a lone practitioner in a rural area. It is highly unlikely that a typical teacher would be able to operate a classroom as an independent business while simultaneously doing all the duties required to teach well. In order to earn enough income to be able to survive financially, the teacher would need to attract enough students who can pay tuition in order to cover the expenses of doing business.
Most families could not afford to pay a per pupil tuition equivalent to what the state QBE allotment is. Therefore, to afford to stay in business, the teacher would need to set up an arrangement where the state would fund the students’ tuition. In return for doing this (if it ever became legal, which would be a pure voucher system), the state would require the teacher to meet certain government guidelines, such as square feet per student for instructional space, safety equipment, food service, etc. To generate federal funding for low-income students, the teacher would have to comply with paperwork requirements for Title I, which can be quite oppressive. The state would also impose standardized testing requirements on the teacher’s instructional practice in order to demonstrate that the students can meet state standards.
The alternative to avoiding all the state regulation & paperwork would be to operate a private practice–and then the teacher would have to find families with enough disposable income to cover tuition.
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
9:44 pm
I happen to very much like the metaphor of teachers as doctors
Dr. Henson, It appears that you and I have independently arrived at this basic operational view. I think of it as the intellectual as physician. This may even go back to Socrates or Aristotle, although I need to learn more about these particular foundations of formal philosophy. There is certainly something to it, and I think more than metaphor.
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
9:46 pm
stay tuned, will make some additional commentary / response, even though this thread is getting calendar pushed off the main.
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
10:17 pm
“Another especially fortunate comparison is that of the mind to an aviary which is gradually occupied by different kinds of birds, which correspond to the varieties of knowledge. When we were children the aviary was empty, and as we grow up we go about “catching” the various kinds of knowledge.”
“Plato recognized, in the Timæus, two kinds of mental disease, to wit, madness and ignorance. He has the notion advocated by advanced psychologists today, that much of the prevalent vice is due to an ill disposition of the body, and is involuntary; “for no man is voluntarily bad; but the bad become bad by reason of ill disposition of the body and bad education, things which are hateful to every man and happen to him against his will.”
http://www.asksam.com/cgi-bin/as_web6.exe?Command=DocName&File=Osleriana&Name=Physic%20and%20Physicians%20as%20Depicted%20by%20Plato
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
10:35 pm
Here’s a couple physicians at work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=x84m3YyO2oU
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
11:15 pm
Dr. Henson,
Hospitals that don’t meet minimum patient satisfaction standards risk losing federal reimbursement.
But you’re basically talking about adults receiving services, little different than rating the mechanics at a car dealership. I dare say that working with K-12 is a different parameter than customer satisfaction surveys. Let me put it this way, in the history of the world. across the world, this concept is an outlier as a means of evaluating integrity, an I do not mean it is a good outlier. It is worth noting, that if this is an outlier as a means of evaluating production, there is a pretty serious here with management and use of resources. Mandating activities must be view seriously as these consume resources – time = money, and also displace other activity, also called creating externalities. When a kid throws a rock threw a window, they have created an externality, a cost. Someone else has to fix the externality. This is the problem about punk culture and ending up in the ER due to self-destruction. Play the anarchist, knowing that there is a hospital with starched sheets and attentive staff waiting for you. The point is relevant application of resources. It is a serious matter, the amount of time/ energy / focus resources being consumed by the evaluation and testing mandates.
Physicians who practice medicine alone or in groups with other physicians are responsible for the operation of a business, which is quite complex,
You’re applying the metaphor to an American medical partnership. I am not. When I think of work environment of “physician,” I think of something close to a Hong Kong public hospital. Real administrators are supposed to pay the bills, manage efficiency and HR placement, not tell doctors what to do in their procedures or speciality. I am guessing in a Hong Kong or British, or French government hospital, the doctors are not involved in financial management, which is a specialty for people trained in facility or operational management and done under the umbrella of a greater management concept. No one is working alone. The U. S. “business doctor” is also an anomaly, an outlier, and the reason they spend thought time and supervising energies over running a business is because there concept is to make $300k or $500k, or $800k a year in income. The two highest pay rates for U. S. doctors are radiology and brain surgery, at least I recall this from twenty years ago or somesuch. We’ll have to see beyond the U. S. system if we’re going to philosophise about educator as physician.
In order to earn enough income to be able to survive financially, the teacher would need to attract enough students who can pay tuition in order to cover the expenses of doing business.
I am guessing this sounds like what you are dealing with at present. hey, good luck with it. I think your efforts can provide a needed service for out of age students. That may be a subtext of our communication, you are providing innovation and services for out of age students, and as a teacher in Georgia I have had several students in the general education classroom as many as three years out of grade level, and I was the sole person in the building who asked the building representative who attended the superintendent meeting to ask, “Hey, what is the deal with so many out of age students? They need to be in a different environment, they have different needs.” Let me tell, I didn’t earn any gold stars pointing this out to the head bosses. I may have done some marketing for you. I hope so. Yes, maybe this is yet another area we need some real public data on, age of students per grade level. Real information. Per school. Per grade level. Made public. The district managers perpetuate a lot of this putting out-of-grade-level kids in classrooms without the public being aware of it.
Most families could not afford to pay a per pupil tuition equivalent to what the state QBE allotment is. Therefore, to afford to stay in business, the teacher would need to set up an arrangement where the state would fund the students’ tuition.
I’m having trouble following this. I think the topic has changed to voucher-concept. I’m going to take a pause for a minute.
Private Citizen
January 15th, 2013
11:49 pm
To generate federal funding for low-income students, the teacher would have to comply with paperwork requirements for Title I, which can be quite oppressive.
To be honest, my work experience is as an applications working in a super-structure where someone else had the greater connections and also responsibilities for paperwork. I’ve owned a business but stopped it due to not wanting to manage financial reporting, for example, depreciation schedules for tax purposes. I’ve done my best working for someone else who had the mantle of communicating with the accountant. As far as paperwork requirements outside of the traditional public system, I am guessing there are at least 20 parts to it. I have an Indian friend who owns a gas station, and I note one thing they are real keen on is that while running the counter, they also are constantly writing down and tabulating, and it is organized and documented. They could probably pull of documentation and tell you how many crackers, candy bars, fuel, or lottery tickets they have sold on any week since they have been in business. Maybe it is facilitated by Hindu language or culture, but they clearly have an incredible ability for doing this “paperwork” all day every day, it seems. Let me tell you, these folks do not fear an audit and are strong business people. They have invests all over the place. It is really fascinating. For example, a guy who owns a restaurant in one town will open up a recreational water park in another town, and have other local business persons as investors to fund the start of the venture. And too, they tend to have the elders or various family parents around, who are also experienced in business, keeping a supervising eye on things. It is really fascinating. I guess my point is that there is a strong and direct way to run “business.”
The state would also impose standardized testing requirements on the teacher’s instructional practice in order to demonstrate that the students can meet state standards.
If charter schools are required to do the same amount of testing additional to one annual test, and are required to do TKES and LKES evaluations, I think there is a problem with autonomy, and I was going to say “I’d put them in court over it” but that is part of the problem, in a political system if you start using a court to hold people to account, it will mal-effect contracting from the government structure, especially for a developing business. This is one reason why we need uninvolved intellectuals and academics (university) doing scholarship on these systems. That’s another puzzle, graduate schools of education are doing Gates-hockum and not doing critical work of the same. At least a lot of people are fearful to because of big power spraying so much money around. Even Gatto says those who stand up to big power are then gone. It’s happened with tv people. British scientist David Kelly lost his life when started getting critical of chemical weapons and talking to the public about it. They found him dead in the woods and then a Parliament head sealed the case and said there will be no inquiry. Foul thing. I think his family sued, and just now a decade later it is coming out into the light. Anyway, that’s the problem with clearances. You talk and you’re dead. Even the lowly teacher, every system email has a confidentiality paragraph at the bottom of it. (!)
The alternative to avoiding all the state regulation & paperwork would be to operate a private practice–and then the teacher would have to find families with enough disposable income to cover tuition.
Historically, independent teachers have worked as tutors. This follows the home school model, with the requirement for teacher provided sq. footage, emergency care, food, etc. The teacher operating as independent with their own school house is actually probably pretty rare, historically (a guess).
As far as “state regulation” I think the real issue is that a lot of this is not from the state, it is from outside of the state, foundation initiatives at a federal level and then the states are co-opted. RTTT is clearly a buying-off of the states that go along with it. It is the opposite of state regulation. One way to address is to do scholarship on what is effective / resource appropriate management and either the state or the fed should support productivity in place of causing externalities, using numerous and arbitrary power, and then marketing this use of power as “contemporary” or in a context of legitimacy where there is no foundation to support it and it is purely political, doing one thing for the reason of something else entirely. Yes, there is much dragon slaying to be done if one wishes to improve the status quo.
Private Citizen
January 16th, 2013
10:51 am
NEW THOUGHT
By all means have an independent school house, and inform / include teachers in financial “map” / distribution / cost and responsibilities of running school. In the current district system, this is incomprehensible, as teachers seem to be the ants on the bottom of a huge system. For example, Dekalb County has a budget of a billion dollars or something? This could be made comprehendable to teachers, but it is not the current management approach.
The one thing I keep returning to, like auto-reset, is a teacher walking into a teaching job, what expectation of provision and source materials do they have? I am continually left speechless by this national management system of putting all this weight on evaluating teachers, combined with no organised attention on what curriculum materials they have to work with. The current mode is to play-act that “standards” and “guidelines” are teaching source materials. One of the persons in the featured article even refers to “standards” as teachers “resources.” That is such a lie, it is unbearable, it is so part way, 25% in place of complete. And they go home and go play golf, meanwhile teachers have to deal with it, spending their out-of-classroom time assembling materials, writing “power points” just to have something to teach from.