
Snow-covered stuffed animals with photos attached sit at a memorial in Newtown, Conn. On Dec. 14, Adam Lanza walked into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and opened fire, killing 26, including 20 children, before killing himself. (AP Photo/Craig Ruttle)
I admire Fred Assaf, head of Pace Academy in Atlanta, because he doesn’t shy away from the tough issues. Here is another example of his willingness to speak out on behalf of children.
In the wake of the Newtown school shooting, Assaf questions the popularity of violent video games, which many kids received as Christmas gifts last week.
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By Fred Assaf
Because I come to know 6-year-olds every year by having lunch with them in our Lower School, I know the boundless joy and optimism they have in the heart. They raise their hands when they don’t know the answer. When they run out of knock-knock jokes they know, the make up more on the spot.
They still need help opening their milk cartons. They look forward to holidays, visiting cousins, and seeing grandparents. They love their teachers, crave the structure of a school setting, and are learning to read fast and compute math at an incredible pace.
They will laugh at all of your jokes, even when they aren’t funny. They understand the needs of those around them, they play with all their classmates, and they respect their parents, their teachers, and their god.
I’m headmaster at an independent school in Atlanta. Our school begins in Pre-First (Kindergarten) and ends with 12th grade. My wife and I also have five children of our own. The events in Newtown, Conn., are unimaginable to us and our entire prayer is for sympathy and healing; there is no justice in a situation like this.
It is my tradition to have lunch with the Pre-First students (they are 5 and 6). In so doing I remind myself about my vocation and come to know the boundless energy and potential of children. It is why I teach. I know more Knock-Knock jokes than any adult my age and I like it!
And I’m plagued now by this thought — who shoots 6-year-olds? Because I lead a school I’m always searching for answers, finding a new path forward, and engineering compromise. But this idea of shooting 6-year-olds doesn’t compute; I’m not in search of a motive, as it cannot possibly explain why.
When we had our first child, our family doctor gave us a good piece of advice: “Eskimo children get used to the cold.” As parents we understood that our attitudes and behaviors would shape our children. Though all five of our sons are different, they are shaped by our values and behaviors.
And so I wonder what behaviors we as parents can change. Certainly, we can improve school security. We can provide better training. We can make it harder to get a gun than to it is to get Sudafed. I don’t know all the political answers, but I’d favor anything that makes gratuitous murder more difficult.
Which brings me to my point. As parents, we need to do our best to stop our children from the desensitizing impact of video games. A quick survey of the most popular video games includes the following top 10 games: “Halo,” “Assassin’s Creed,” “Call of Duty,” “World of Warcraft,” “Grand Theft Auto.”
Each of these games, simply put, eats away at a child’s sensitivity toward killing. We have “gamified” the murder of people, and our children shoot, steal, and bomb in their virtual worlds. Like the basketball player who practices foul shots, we get better at things when we practice. Their habits become automatic, reactive, and second-nature.
Raising children is a labor of love. Working in a school is a joy. When I reflect on President Obama’s query to ask myself what we can do better as parents, educators, and communities — it seems to me that we can stop letting our children kill people over and over and over again — and call it a GAME.
If you know teenagers like I know teenagers, they will find other things to do once you take away their shooting games – perhaps they will even work on their free throws.
–from Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog
109 comments Add your comment
Ros Dalton
January 2nd, 2013
2:49 am
Ahh this merry old saw always brings to mind a book I found when I was in middle school. It’s called “From the Ballroom to Hell” and it’s about the insidious and socially destructive habit of ballroom dancing. You see ballroom dancing leads inevitably to delicate young ladies committing a whole string of unimaginable sins, the guilt and social opprobrium of which unavoidably causes them to turn to whoring or suicide.
No, wait, that’s actually a completely specious load of nonsense that a fake preacher made up over a hundred years ago and published to turn a buck.
I get it. Whatever the current crop of young people are doing the current crop of old people finds morally bankrupt and reprehensible, and if only sense could prevail those darn kids would cut that crap out and get back to the wholesome activities we enjoyed in our youth. You know, the ones our parents despised and reviled, like ballroom dancing.
I have to admit I cringe watching 13 year old kids hump dancing. It hurts the little old man in me who thinks back to when I was pushing boundaries by touching my hip to my partner’s during a slow dance. That being confessed, I have not forgotten being young. A child’s peers are a far greater influence on him than his parents, or anyone more than 4 years older than him. Give your kid the tools to select his peers wisely and you’ll have done a significant part of your job as a parent. Throw out his video games (Or cancel his ballroom dancing lessons) and you’ll just be sending him in search of whichever of his peers can give him a window into that world. A video game IS just a game. The simulated violence of football IS just simulated. Ballroom dancing doesn’t lead to whoring and death, it’s just friggin dancing.
Being a parent is about providing the context, experience, and skills to handle life as it exists for our kids and their peers, not about trying to remove the aspects of the world we don’t care for from our children’s experience. Eventually they move out. Then they see things as they truly are and they must come to terms with them. Don’t be that bubble parent.
AnnieAD
January 2nd, 2013
5:34 am
Totally agree with the author.
AnnieAD
January 2nd, 2013
5:35 am
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Jack ®
January 2nd, 2013
5:38 am
I should have known all that ballroom dancing was messing me up. And all those Gene Autry westerns didn’t help either.
redweather
January 2nd, 2013
6:21 am
Or, “Being a parent is about providing the context, experience, and skills to handle life as it exists for our kids and their peers, [and] about trying to [alter] aspects of the world [that] we [consider harmful to] our children’s experience.”
Beverly Fraud
January 2nd, 2013
6:30 am
“I admire Fred Assaf, head of Pace Academy in Atlanta, because he doesn’t shy away from the tough issues.”
Maybe Fred Assaf can ask Herb Garrett LOL
“Totally agree with the author.”
Not surprising AnnieAD, if you can’t find it within yourself to even question Herb Garrett, all but genuflecting before him, I’m not surprised you won’t critically examine Fred Assaf, who strikes a legitimate cord of concern with his post.
While I see where cultural influences such as video games could lead to desensitizing children to violence, and I appreciate the author’s no doubt well meaning intent, I prefer the more nuanced response of Ros Dalton, in particular:
“Being a parent is about providing the context, experience, and skills to handle life as it exists for our kids and their peers, not about trying to remove the aspects of the world we don’t care for from our children’s experience.”
Nuance and discernment; qualities you would think would be embraced by educators, yet somehow seem shockingly lacking by some posters on this blog.
Puzzlingly really…
Beverly Fraud
January 2nd, 2013
6:43 am
Or, “Being a parent is about providing the context, experience, and skills to handle life as it exists for our kids and their peers, [and] about trying to [alter] aspects of the world [that] we [consider harmful to] our children’s experience.”
Not a bad counterpoint at all redweather; I wonder for example, what might happen if instead of reflexively saying yes or no to buying Call of Duty, one asked “Why do you think you might find it enjoyable to pretend killing people in a realistic manner?”
I’m not claiming a rightness or wrongness to this approach, but I am thinking it may very well provide some of that context. It may even cause the child himself to alter his consumer choice…heck, if he sees the title “From Ballroom to Hell” it may sound so rebellious, that he’ll ask for ballroom dancing lessons LOL
Another Math Teacher
January 2nd, 2013
6:43 am
Watching Tom and Jerry, Roadrunner, and Marvin the Martian have certainly led me down the path of evil. Last week I perfected my Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator and I intend to destroy Venus – as it obstructs my view of Mercury.
Also, it should be noted, my head is flat from my brother smashing me in the head with a frying pan. Damn cartoons.
Teach2Learn
January 2nd, 2013
6:57 am
“Eventually they move out. Then they see things as they truly are and they must come to terms with them.” Ros Dalton
The Newtown shooter did not move out. Parenting is not about allowing, not about giving in, it’s not a game. There’s no extra life, no do-over.
Dr. Monica Henson
January 2nd, 2013
7:12 am
Tom & Jerry, the Road Runner, and Marvin the Martian are nothing like the violent, adult-rated video games (and television shows) to which many American children are given unfettered access by parents too clueless and/or lazy to do their jobs and monitor what their children are doing with media, with age-appropriate restrictions. The trend in video games is to make them as realistic as possible using computer animation techniques, and the military even uses video games to train personnel.
Any parent who permits an elementary schooler to view R-rated films and adult-oriented television shows and play video games clearly marked M for mature is beyond negligent. This is the very definition of horrible parenting.
Beverly Fraud
January 2nd, 2013
7:56 am
@Dr. Henson, I appreciate your response to the Herb Garrett issue. Again, while not a fan of Michelle Rhee, I can appreciate someone who part of (from everything I’ve ever read) a viable alternative to the status quo, and could deal with the status quo (without going bat guano crazy) long enough to bring it to fruition.
Continued success. Now a 7 year old doesn’t get Call of Duty for Christmas. Period. End of story. But I do wonder if it is better to at least engage the 14 year old in the conversation, as to “why” even if, at the end of the day, you still say no?
Finally @Dr. Henson and for profit charters. You do realize when Office Depot, Microsoft, mop makers, tool makers, lawnmower manufacturers and the like sell to the traditional public schools, all of them sell at cost don’t you, and categorically refuse to make any profit off the transactions right?
Your school only pays a markup because it’s a charter school.
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:08 am
Any parent who permits an elementary schooler to view R-rated films and adult-oriented television shows and play video games clearly marked M for mature is beyond negligent. This is the very definition of horrible parenting.
Aren’t you the same person who is all for stealing money from local systems to give to Nathan Deals secret little commission that will decide who offers enough in bribe money to get to build so called “charter schools” where ever Nathan Deal needs to gain political favors and more bribes? THAT is horrible parenting.
Letting my daughter watch movies like Mississippi Burning, and Schindler’s List, isn’t. Maybe YOU think Pollyanna, The Brady Bunch, and Leave it to Beaver are how all kids grow up, but it’s not like that in real life. Maybe you should pull your head out of your rear end and quit posting such inanities. Children in Atlanta are being SHOT by “stray bullets.” They watch neighbors got killed on the street. A video game? REALLY? An R movie? REALLY? Hearing someone drop the “s bomb’ is something new?
It must be nice living in the sitcom 1950’s, but the rest of us live in the real world where racism, senseless violence, and harshness occur on a daily basis. WE want our children educated and prepared to deal with it. Now go give Beaver a cookie Mrs. Cleaver……
Woody
January 2nd, 2013
8:11 am
” They understand the needs of those around them, they play with all their classmates, and they respect their parents, their teachers, and their god.” – We could use some folks like that in Congress. Glad y’all are growing them, there at Pace.
Sparky
January 2nd, 2013
8:31 am
Unevidenced drivel. Do they play violent games in Japan?
Michele
January 2nd, 2013
8:44 am
I totally agree with the author. As a retired middle school teacher, I believe the author’s comments are right on the nail. Yes, I also watched the roadrunner and all the terrible cartoons containing violence, and I don’t kick dogs or terrorize others. There is a difference between these cartoons and the newest of the violent games children watch today. Realistic images of death and destruction are totally unacceptable in a caring society. I also know that there are many young people who are addicted to these games, spending countless hours glued to the screen containing nauseous violence. All these hours could be better spent by these young people. No, I do not think they are bad kids, but I do believe their mindset is seriously changed by incessant watching of these videos. Who knows what the future will hold regarding these students? From my personal experience, I have seen the changes in youth watching these game screens over time. Many of them become self destructive (cutting for example) and seriously depressed and standoffish. They reject authority and often have no idea how to fit into the real world they are forced to live in. Personally, I find most of these games as “vile” and “self-destructive” when parents allow their children to watch them without any time restraints. I would not ever allow a child of mine to own one. My hat is off to the Principal of Pace Academy, Fred Assaf, for having the courage and interest in his children at the school.
guest
January 2nd, 2013
8:51 am
Sparky,
They do. Probably more so than here. The underlying difference – people in the U.S. have NO self-responsibility. It’s always someone or something else at fault.
skipper
January 2nd, 2013
9:05 am
Things have changed, for sure. Years ago, we had wooden cut-out guns to play with. There was a toy gun called a Johnny-7 OMA that was a combination machine gun/pistol/ grenade launcher. It was a must-have at Christmas in the early ’60s (I’m telling my age) and we played army/war all the time. Shows on T.V. like “Combat” were all the kids favorites. However, while we enjoyed playing these games (and did so at school many a time) there was no killing or violence linked to this. G.I. Joe figures with all the camo and war equipment did not cause folks to go off the deep end. Man, how the times have changed. I know that each generation freaks at the next generation’s ways and means, but things have gotten out of hand.
History Teacher
January 2nd, 2013
9:22 am
We have a reason for everything these days. We still do not know what drove the Newtown killer to murder all those people. Media and friends say he was mentally ill but there is no evidence to support that. Some say he suffered from a form of autism—again no evidence to support it.
Did playing Grand Theft Auto or Halo cause him to kill? Again there is nothing for the police to go on.
Maybe he was just plain evil—something not unheard of in this world. We will probably never know.
As with all catastrophic events we look to place blame somewhere. Video games, poor treatment options for the mentally ill, and a number of other ideas have come up with the Newtown killings. And we probably will never have an explanation.
Do video games cause players to view murder differently? Maybe and maybe not. Do the games blur the lines between real death and virtual death? Again the answer is the same.
I have never been one to jump on the blame bandwagon. It is easy to jump on and possibly deflect attention from where it needs to be.
It is unlikely that we will ever have a definative answer about the Newtown massacre. Based on the killer’s efforts to destroy his computer set up there is most likely something there he did not want police and the public to know.
I do not think that young children should be allowed to play violent video games, go to R movies (or many PG movies) or read books that emphasize violence. Not because I think it will make them mass murderers but more because they are not age appropriate.
Parents these days seem more interested in being a friend, rather than a parent, to their children. There is a line between the two that a parent of a child under 18 should not cross. Being a friend to your children comes with age–theirs and not the parents’ age. And part of being a parent means you should think long and hard about age appropriate entertainment.
SBinF
January 2nd, 2013
9:24 am
Guns don’t kill people, video games do?
Now I’ve heard it all!
Really?
January 2nd, 2013
9:31 am
Wow. After scanning some of the comments on here, it seems parents don’t want to actually spend time with their kids, they want the video games to do it. Why have kids? I’m a parent, of a two year old boy, and just last night I was telling someone that I would allow him to play on the computer, pbskids.org and abcmouse, maybe sprout online, and as he gets older, I will not allow him to have a gaming console of any type. Some Pop Warner, little t-ball, maybe some youth wrestling, but no video game console. Probably no cell phone till he’s 13 or 14 either. I’m currently toying with eliminating televisions altogether as well. As a generation x’er myself, having come of age on the cusp of the video game revolution, I know the affect this can have, I’ve seen it, endless hours, sometimes days on end glued to and immersed in the violence, and now it starts so YOUNG. Four and five year olds, who have not yet fully mastered their abc’s weild video game skills with some of the best who’ve been doing it for 10, 15 20 years now. They are born of it. A co-worker of mine said just the other day that her six year old, upon completion of watching a very violent movie turned to her and said that’s what he wanted to do, shoot people. She said she’s already scared of him. He’s six, she’s his mom. Yes, an Eskimo child does get used to the cold. Apparantly some Eskimo parents set them out to sea on a block of ice.
Maureen Downey
January 2nd, 2013
9:36 am
@To all, I am not sure if we yet know the impact of hours and hours of violent video games. I’m surprised at the quick dismissal of the possibility that the games could increase violent behaviors since these extremely violent games are a new phenomenon. We are also now seeing younger and younger kids playing and playing for hours, even on car trips to grandmother’s house for the holidays.
On that note, here is a study released this year:
A longitudinal study of the association between violent video game play and aggression among adolescents.
Willoughby, Teena; Adachi, Paul J. C.; Good, Marie
Developmental Psychology, Vol 48(4), Jul 2012, 1044-1057. doi: 10.1037/a0026046
Abstract
In the past 2 decades, correlational and experimental studies have found a positive association between violent video game play and aggression. There is less evidence, however, to support a long-term relation between these behaviors. This study examined sustained violent video game play and adolescent aggressive behavior across the high school years and directly assessed the socialization (violent video game play predicts aggression over time) versus selection hypotheses (aggression predicts violent video game play over time). Adolescents ( N = 1,492, 50.8% female) were surveyed annually from Grade 9 to Grade 12 about their video game play and aggressive behaviors. Nonviolent video game play, frequency of overall video game play, and a comprehensive set of potential 3rd variables were included as covariates in each analysis. Sustained violent video game play was significantly related to steeper increases in adolescents’ trajectory of aggressive behavior over time. Moreover, greater violent video game play predicted higher levels of aggression over time, after controlling for previous levels of aggression, supporting the socialization hypothesis. In contrast, no support was found for the selection hypothesis. Nonviolent video game play also did not predict higher levels of aggressive behavior over time. Our findings, and the fact that many adolescents play video games for several hours every day, underscore the need for a greater understanding of the long-term relation between violent video games and aggression, as well as the specific game characteristics (e.g., violent content, competition, pace of action) that may be responsible for this association. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)
Anne Kimberly
January 2nd, 2013
9:37 am
“Sparky” brings up an important point. Our neighbors to the North are playing the same video games and watching the same movies, but are refraining from killing each other. What’s the difference between Canadian and U.S. kids? What’s the difference between U. S. children exposed to violence and choose not to act out and those who choose to pick up weapons and commit murder? We have to stop over-simplifying and search for real answers.
SBinF
January 2nd, 2013
9:42 am
Anne it is far more difficult to obtain a firearm in Canada than in the U.S.
Incidentally, when I was up in Canada this past summer, there was a story on the news about increasing gun violence as a result of the illegal firearms trade between the U.S. and Canada….that is, easily obtainable firearms in the U.S. being smuggled to Canada.
SEE
January 2nd, 2013
9:50 am
I used to obsess over my weight. At 5′6″ and 125 pounds, I worried that my upper thighs had fat ripples. I contemplated plastic surgery for my abdomen. Instead, I did something just as drastic, I stopped watching TV. I turned off “Friends” and “Sex in the City”, for some goal that was not even related to how I looked. At the end of the time period, I discovered that I no longer obsessed over my looks. I truly believe the constant barrage of images of “perfect” bodies and shows whose characters obsessed over their looks silently molded my thoughts. I never went back to TV again.
I believe what you watch and the games you play are molding your outlook on life, whether you acknowledge it or not. You may not kill people, but are you more callous towards others? Are you less likely to be tolerant of those little quirks or opinions that may annoy you? Is your rhetoric harsher? How do you know those shows and games have not affected your thinking in subtle ways? Take a 6 month break from violent TV and video games and see if there is a change. Remember, a frog will not jump out of a pot of boiling water if the heat is turned up a little at a time. The frog won’t notice the change.
indigo
January 2nd, 2013
10:04 am
In the 1950’s, as a child, I went to every violent cowboy movie there was. I also saw all kinds of violent gangster movies.
No one ever brought a gun to school.
No one even thought of that.
Violent games aren’t causing this.
A huge emphasis on Civil Rights in the 60’s, with a corresponding total neglect of Civil Responsibilities, which persists to this day, is largely responsible for so many of the ills of our society.
Xavier
January 2nd, 2013
10:06 am
This is basically the substance of the argument: “I don’t have any evidence for this, and all studies have shown that no link exists, but I choose to believe it, so there.”
It always ALWAYS comes down to the mental/emotional health of the individual. Parents need to start being objective and honest about their “little angels” when it’s warranted. If you have a mentally/emotionally stunted child, maybe you need to seek treatment and be careful concerning what they put in their minds.
Could a disturbed child (or young adult) become influenced by the violence on TV and in video games? Of course. But a healthy, normal individual turning into a rabid killer by what they watch and play? Come on. There’s no science behind that, and there’s absolutely NO scholarship to back it up. And trust me: People have been trying to find that link for years (hello, Jack Thompson!), so if it existed, it would have been found.
And I’m also going to state the obvious: Game ratings are akin to movies. The games listed by this individual are not supposed to be for those under 17. But hey: Let’s have more controls on entertainment. Why not?
Nazan Yar
January 2nd, 2013
10:09 am
There’s certainly no silver bullet to this issue, and I’m not one to put blame on video games, dungeons and dragons, or any other form of entertainment. Part of the issue is that parenting takes tons of physical and emotional energy. If kids are left to their own devices, without constant, intentional parental steering, our kids’ ability to discern right from wrong may be lessened. I’d propose one ideal that needs to be addressed is what causes our parents to have less energy to devote intentionally to our children? Perhaps the drive for more income? Better providing for our families? Keeping up with the Jones’? Each parent working long hours at a job? Single parents? I’d like to see some data on this – again not putting blame all in one place, but an interesting thought.
BehindEnemyLines
January 2nd, 2013
10:13 am
Disappointingly shortsided commentary from someone who, ostensibly, ought to be smart enough to know better.
As a gamer for more than 30 years myself — back to the Intellivision era — I’ve been quite happy to share that hobby with my child, soon to be 15, for nearly a decade. The amount of teaching opportunities the games have provided is staggering, even to me. Discussions on everything from strategy & tactics to manufacturing to geography to psychology to biology to technology. Nowhere has gaming been more influential than on his interest in history, providing me with years of challenges (and improving my Google skills) to answer questions about the whos, whys, hows and whatever-happened-tos that come up on a regular basis. They’ve been critical in the development of a child that is an honor roll student at a school very much the equal of the author’s own, that has declared his interest in majoring in history as preparation for law school since before he was 10, that has been examining his college options since around the same age. Gaming has also played a key role in developing a child that volunteers to work with handicapped children & at animal shelters, that will likely complete his Eagle Scout requirements before turning 16, that is confident in following his convictions, that has a highly developed sense of both duty and honor, that is engaged with the world around him at every level from hyper-local to global. In short, I’ve had the privilege to watch my son grow into someone that I’ve long been able to describe as being simply a better human being already than I’ve been on my best days.
And he’s done it all with some of best known game series — Halo, Call of Duty, Fallout, Elder Scrolls — being a regular part of more than half his life.
No Mr. Assaf, the games aren’t the mysterious key to this topic. Involved & engaged parenting is key — a willingness to explore, discuss, listen, guide, inquire. The commitment to actually take time to parent. You see, those almost countless hours of gaming my child has done have been undertaken with consistent engagement, with consistent supervision, with consistent time investment.
What a sad commentary — both personally and professionally — that you appear so invested in looking for a boogeyman to blame when the most critical answer stares you in the face every day. We have met the enemy Mr. Assaf, and collectively, he is us.
Rick L in ATL
January 2nd, 2013
10:16 am
Our call of duty right now is to figure out ways to immediately provide better protection for children, not to argue about the causes of pathology or how many guns = too many. Listen, even as a conservative-leaning libertarian, I appreciate that we have too many guns and especially too many military-style guns. But we’re being distracted by the arguments over gun control and what causes young men to go on killing sprees, and what we should be focusing on, right now, is protection.
What can we do right now, in other words, to reduce the exposure our children have at unguarded schools?
And the answer is right in front of us. According to the NY Times, the Newtown killer bypassed the first classroom he came to because he couldn’t open the door. He went on to the next two classrooms and killed everyone inside.
Why aren’t we talking about steel fire doors with sliding heavy-duty bolt locks for every classroom door? Certainly that’s cheaper than spending billions on more armed guards, and it won’t set off an endless and unproductive argument.
Remember–no matter where you stand on gun control, 100 million people in this country disagree with you and they have votes and political clout just like you do, and they will never acquiesce to what you feel should be the standard on gun ownership. So stop wasting time arguing about it–because it is an issue that’ll never move more than a few inches in either direction in your lifetime– and put your focus where it can actually do some good.
Decaturite
January 2nd, 2013
10:30 am
IMHO, a child’s developing brain, thinking patterns, emotions, and perception of reality are shaped by what is put in front of the child. Not determined, but shaped. Since I want my children to reach their highest potential, not just get by, I allow them to be exposed to healthy, positive images, and examples in their video games and media contact. Filth and gratuitious violence are not healthy so I do not expose them to pornography or violent games. And they are missing…………nothing. I have yet to see a value to pornography or violent games.
Point/Counterpoint
January 2nd, 2013
10:31 am
It’s really quite simple. With technology, parents no longer have to parent, they only entertain. When I took my small children out in public, I did not have a smartphone I could hand them to watch cartoons from Netflix. I had to talk to them, play games with them and teach them how to behave. When traveling, there were no dvd’s. We talked, played license tag games, checked out the scenery or read books. They were allowed to watch tv and played video games (as teenagers) that killed people. I did talk to them about make believe games and reality. We talked everyday. They knew that as long as they behaved and did what they were supposed to ,everything was great. Step out of line, and they would suffer the consequences. Communication is lacking when children spend the majority of their time wired.
Just wondering, how many of you have been terrorized at a restaurant by wild children at the next table while their parents seem oblivious to the situation?
living in an outdated ed system
January 2nd, 2013
10:32 am
Fred, while we’re at it, lets prevent our kids from watching violent movies, TV shows, violent plays, violent performances of any kind. Lets put our children in a bubble of “innocence.”
In all seriousness, the violence in any form of entertainment is not what ills our society. We as parents have the power to moderate what our children are exposed to, and when. Fred should be reminding his students that sites like Common Sense Media do a great job with ratings – much more detailed than how they rate video games and TV/Film.
I worked in the media industry for 20 years, and Fred shows no research that correlates violent video games with real life youth crime. It is not a new datapoint that most of the top selling video games are “M” rated, but there are countless other video games that are good games and appropriate for kids. There is research on both sides of this issue, but it is reckless for Fred to throw the video games industry under the bus. I suspect he will get significant backlash from his community.
Maureen, I caution you to share research that is one-sided. There is research on both sides and there is no conclusive evidence that violent video games is an isolating risk factor adversely affecting our youth. Here is one article and I am happy to cite even more specific research to anyone who wants it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/30/games-first-person-shooter-vaughan-bell
I caution everyone to be VERY careful about pointing fingers when the research is 100% inconclusive at this time. Bottom line – monitor your kids game consumption and know what they’re playing!
Sad stuff from parents
January 2nd, 2013
10:44 am
Thank you Dr. Assaf for your genuine concern for the children at Pace.
Reading all these comments defending violent video games makes me sad. That any parent thinks their children learn something valuable from a virtual horror show of shooting and maiming is the saddest thing of all.
There is an education component to video games, just as there is from children’s TV. Children learn their ABCs from Sesame Street. What do they learn from Halo?
John Gnauck
January 2nd, 2013
10:51 am
Teachers and Guns.
We cannot afford to provide specialized armed guards to each of 220,000 schools in the U.S.
There is a good probability that the guard will not be at the right place at the right time. Uniformed guards would be an early target.
Teachers should not be “required to carry guns.” But if a teacher obtains a permit for the appropriate state, which includes training and a background check they should be encouraged to carry.
Guns Free Zones are islands of innocents. Get rid of them.
Teachers who choose to carry have the same responsibility that any handgun carrier has. To maintain control of the gun at all times. In some cases this may mean a thumb print lock box in the classroom.
TIm "Mr. Science" Perkins
January 2nd, 2013
10:51 am
The military does use video game training. Many educational processes use multimedia as an efficient way to influence thoughts. Billions of dollars are poured into advertising campaigns specifically tuned to reach particular demographics. Why? Because it works! Arguments that people don’t chase roadrunners after watching a cartoon coyote are foolishness… a child WILL try chasing a bird given the opportunity; it’s called “play”. And although grownups do it less or differently, we still think about that roadrunner – therefor it IS lurking in our heads.
There is a missing half to this argument; balancing multimedia educational influences with discretion, compassion, and respect. For example; soldiers trained to kill are also trained when NOT to. They are debriefed and evaluated after missions or conflicts. What child is ever talked “down” from the high of achieving a violent game’s highest levels? They are not. In fact, the game escalates the tension and encourages an increase in “scoring” (killing). Each level and each new addition of the game incrementally increases the anticipation of a more profound experience.
For some, visceral stimuli is a temporary and completely manageable distraction from everyday thoughts. For others, however, it is more. Like a glass of wine or a few minutes on Facebook; i.e. some individuals have an overwhelming response. We all know that some people faint at the sight of blood, some are terrified by their own shadow, some startle easily, and so on. Where is the screening for those who are easily influenced by multimedia? Can a game identify if the person playing it is really practicing to fly a plane into a tower? Can a lurid image know if the person viewing it is voyeuristically stimulated to the point of sexually assaulting someone? Can a child know if his or her parent is not qualified to properly assess a young mind’s psychological condition? Can a young parent know what they don’t know? Maybe someday technology will help us in these areas, but not now. As long as we as a society do not teach responsibility before, during, and after each influential experience – we will continue to blindly (and painfully) bump into our own ignorance. Some will pay the ultimate price.
Don’t legislate what you can educate.
SBinF
January 2nd, 2013
10:52 am
Did someone on this discussion really link the civil rights movement to the decay of society?
Really?
Dr. Monica Henson
January 2nd, 2013
11:00 am
Beverly Fraud posted, “But I do wonder if it is better to at least engage the 14 year old in the conversation, as to “why” even if, at the end of the day, you still say no?”
Totally agree, and a lot depends on the maturity of the 14-year-old. It’s not a good idea for a parent of a middle schooler or high schooler, or even an older elementary schooler, to issue edicts with no discussion. My point was for young children, which I think of P-4 or 5 as falling into that category, that violent, M-rated video games & similar television shows & films are utterly inappropriate.
“Finally @Dr. Henson and for profit charters. You do realize when Office Depot, Microsoft, mop makers, tool makers, lawnmower manufacturers and the like sell to the traditional public schools, all of them sell at cost don’t you, and categorically refuse to make any profit off the transactions right?
Your school only pays a markup because it’s a charter school.”
Absolutely not true. No private company, unless they are making a special exception, sells to public schools “at cost.” Many of them sell at a discount, and we purchase quite a bit at a discount ourselves. Talk to any purchasing agent at any school district, and they’ll tell you that companies compete fiercely for public school contracts. They don’t do that because they’re selling at cost.
Atlanta Mom
January 2nd, 2013
11:05 am
really-Go for it, turn off the TV completely. My children, all in college now, only got to watch TV between 5 and 6 when I was making dinner, and only PBS. While it made for some awkward moments–when they were at friends homes and announced to the care taker that they weren’t allowed to watch TV, or when in an ice breaking activity their favorite TV program was never the same as anyone else’s, none of them own a TV now. Interaction with your child is so much better than watching them watch TV.
All I'm Saying Is....
January 2nd, 2013
11:10 am
“A huge emphasis on Civil Rights in the 60’s, with a corresponding total neglect of Civil Responsibilities, which persists to this day, is largely responsible for so many of the ills of our society.”
—Dumbest comment of this whole thread. Implies that allowing women to exercise the full freedoms inherent in the Constitution (such as voting and working outside the home) was wrong.
Second dumbest is the notion that violent video game play leads to decreased sensitivity regarding sanctity of human life. Violent video game play at the expense of education or teaching self control leads to an inability to do a lot of productive things. But neither video games nor guns nor automobiles nor knives nor ropes, etc. kill people. Irresponsible use of the preceding leads to tragedies.
No one is defending violent video games. Some of us are trying to bring sanity back to this discussion. Like all things, too much video game play is bad for all involved.
Video games are rated as to their age appropriateness. Whether or not parents allow their child to play games rated “M” for Mature (meaning 18 or older is recommended) is a parental decision. The real issue is parents making poor decisions. These poor decisions could involve allowing their kids too much freedom, letting their kids watch too much TV or participate too heavily in sports at the expense of doing their homework. These poor decisions are the areas at fault and not the activity itself.
Headmasters of schools should focus on the primary things they can do such as
-school security (i.e. bullet proof glass at entry points, armed security patrolling the premises, security cameras),
-controlled access to school property during the school day,
-educating students so that they are thinking and engaged individuals, and
-providing counseling and mental health awareness.
And while I can find a study to support anything these days, I must say Maureen that you do this dialog no service when you post links to studies that are ultimately inconclusive. I would suggest you stick with the “all things in moderation” with “school work always coming first” point of view.
Don't Tread
January 2nd, 2013
11:14 am
Good luck outlawing video games….the People’s Republik of Kalifornia tried that and the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional on First Amendment grounds.
It’s not the guns, violent video games, movies, television, etc. It’s BAD PARENTING, plain and simple, whether that constitutes teaching the wrong values or just letting the electronic devices babysit the kid for you. However, I don’t think there is any way to legislate “good parenting” that would pass Constitutional muster either.
mike
January 2nd, 2013
11:17 am
So, what if the kids play MADDEN NFL 24/7? Are they then going to go out and be a football player? Get a grip people. If you try and say that the game is the cause then it has to go both ways. Why is it only violent games that concern you? So my son who plays Dance Dance Revolution and my Daughter who plays Call of Duty are going to grow up to be a male dancer and a female soldier?
ImaDAD
January 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
Don’t the games referenced come with a “Parental Rating”? I am not real sure because my son really only plays the EA Sports NBA, NFL, and MLB games and I spend my time waiting by the phone for his pro sports agent to call with his million dollar pro contract.
Though the game MAY provide a sense of “softening killing” to some who are not mentally stable enough to understand the difference, and as much as I hate the government being involved with telling me what is good for my child, they do. So PARENTS, take that for what it is. Maybe a game rated for 17 yr olds and older really is a bad idea for a 6 yr old? Or maybe at least for one that is given the game at Christmas and is allowed to play in his room, site unseen for hours on end with no PARENT involvement in the rest of his life.
Silly as it is but referenced above, I grew up watching the Coyote spend 30 minutes trying to “kill” the Road Runner, but never in my immature, uneducated mind think it was OK to kill anything.
Start with being a freakin’ PARENT and not your child’s best friend!!! The word “NO” didn’t kill me and it will not kill my kids either. Just because the game may not be appropriate for your child or their age or even perhaps their mental capacity, doesn’t mean it can’t be ENTERTAINMENT for older, mature, or those with the mental capacity.
Please accept my reference to the “mental” issue as raising the flag to a whole different issue we have here that NOBODY seems to want to address and not in a derogatory way.
ClydeFr0g
January 2nd, 2013
11:24 am
Video games are not to blame here folks. It’s the parents. This seems to be the elephant in the room that no one wants to address.
In the same time period that video games have gotten more and more realistic and more wide-spread, violent crime has DROPPED. Find your own data at CDC and FBI.
I was in the “latch-key kid” generation, I guess we were so named because we were the fist generation that had both parents working full-time jobs and so there was no parent waiting at home when we got off school.
Unfortunately this has not improved, it’s only gotten more prevalent. Too many kids either have very little time with their parents because they both work, or the quality of their time with their parents is so low because both parents are worn out or on a long leash, connected to their jobs 24/365 via smart phones and email (and not by the parents’ choice).
I believe this can be traced back to one thing: the extreme devaluation of the dollar. Both parents *have* to work nowadays. Gone are the days of the stay-at-home wife with the man’s income alone enough to buy a decent standard of living. Hell, we’ll be lucky if both parents’ incomes are enough to buy a decent standard of living soon!
Anyway….it’s up to the parents to monitor their children…what they watch, what the play, and what they do. And this seems to be a point the author is making. I just hope the point isn’t misinterpreted so that some believe we need to destroy the First AND Second Amendments to our Constitution for our kids’ sake, because that is truly doing NO favors for future generations.
All I'm Saying Is....
January 2nd, 2013
11:28 am
And let me also add that an example of a poor parental decision was the decision by the Lanza mom to train her clearly mentally unstable son in the art of handling and shooting a gun as a means to better bond with him and her other son.
What sense does that make?
Had she never heard of other possible hobbies they all could have enjoyed such as stamp collecting or golf or needlepoint or tennis or baseball trading cards or any number of things that don’t inherently involve lethal weapons?
Hunter
January 2nd, 2013
11:34 am
Here’s the deal. I have been around guns my ENTIRE life. Starting at 9 when I got my first shotgun and have NEVER had the want to go out and kill someone. I KNEW dead was DEAD. My father was my friend and also my FATHER!! Stop trying to find the BLAME and start being the SOLUTION…educate your kids, spend time with them, NOT EVERYONE gets to WIN! Not EVERY kid should get a trophy. ENOUGH of this “Johhny got his feelings hurt because he didnt make the team so he had to retaliate” garbage. That is ONE thing those games do teach is that you can’t ALL be winners. But I do hear a bunch of whiners out there!
Mountain Man
January 2nd, 2013
11:34 am
There is a big difference between the road runner cartoons or even the old westerns and the violent video games. In road runner, the coyote never dies, even though he falls from great heights and has safes land on him. In the old westerns, only the bad guy dies, and usually no blood is ever seen. In the new video games, you can view the brains being spalltered out of the heads.
What is missing in these games is a discussion of the effects of this violence on the people who are dispatched. Even in war, there are wives, children, and friends of the “enemy”. Do these games show the funereals for the dead – the crying and grief and mourning? No. Even in HALO (I assume, since I have never played it) there are alien families, are there not? These games make it sound like the player is fighting pure evil – what, are they fighting demons from hell, Lucifer’s minions?
IN order for these video games to be truly “realistic”, they need to show the suffering of the enemy, and maybe draw some lines about what is right and wrong. When we fought the Germans in WWII, was it because ALL Germans were evil? If so, why did we not go on to obliterate the race of Germans. Same with the Japanese. Why did we help them rebuild their society and now call them friends? It is because they were not pure evil; they were only enemies of the moment. When our soldiers are killed, we weep and mourn and show the grief – why do the enemy soldiers (yes, even Bin Laden’s minions) deserve any less. You can bet they portray us and our soldiers as faceless evil monsters – that is why the 9-11 terrorists could so callously kill 3000 of us – they did not consider us as deserving to live because we were so evil.
MoFaux
January 2nd, 2013
11:46 am
Maureen, this is not a new phenomenon, depending on your definition of “new”. Remember the arcade game Mortal Kombat? That old game had some quite graphic kill scenes. As a gen-xer myself (and parent) who grew up playing video games, I agree that young children should not be decaptitating foes in video games. But, a 14 year old? Even without my mom monitoring what I was doing, I was able to comprehend that just because it was ok for my character in a video game to go on a killing spree, that somehow it was inappropriate to do so in real life, as myself. The lack of gun control and mental health has much more to do with mass killings in real life than any video game ever will. Good parenting trumps everything though.
Mountain Man
January 2nd, 2013
11:54 am
“Second dumbest is the notion that violent video game play leads to decreased sensitivity regarding sanctity of human life.”
Then why does the Army use these video games as training exercises? I heard that during WWII, the number of soldiers that actually killed the enemy was small – they just couldn’t make themselves do it. My own father told me that during his entire stint in the war, he is not sure he actually shot and killed anyone. During the Vietnam war, it was common for the North Vietnamese to be referred to as “gooks” so as to make them impersonal and subhuman. It is hard to kill a fellow man, so the Army tells you the enemies are “less than human” to make it easier to kill them.
If these video games just want you to kill something, why don’t they teach you to shoot rabid packs of wolves – oh, sorry, then PETA would get all uspet. So let’s just kill humans instead.
collegedude
January 2nd, 2013
12:09 pm
Seriously, all of the “educated people” want to play the blame game. Let’s blame the guns. Let’s blame video games. Let’s blame Hollywood & violent TV & movies. BUT let’s not blame the individual that carried out this horrible act.
No, he wasn’t at fault, it had to be something else. Sorry, but if parents and educators would enforce than ethos of personal responsibility instead of looking to pass the blame then the world would be a much better place. Video games were no more responsible Fred Assif is responsible. Can we please stop passing the blame and start making people accept the responsibility for their own actions?
SMB in CT
January 2nd, 2013
12:16 pm
Having successfully raised two boys to manhood (30 and 26 yrs old), who played Halo and Call of Duty in their teen years, and who still get together with friends to play occasionally, I have a couple of comments. I think it was back in the ’50’s that Bandura and Bandura did a study on the correlation between watching violence and becoming violent. Their conclusions amounted to the fact that in those cases where kids had already shown aggressive behavior, they had the tendency to become more aggressive when exposed to violence, while more docile kids were not so affected by viewing violence. It must be noted that violence expressed int the 50s was much more benign than what is hurled at kids today. My kids, in their high-school years played these war games, but were not allowed the Grand Theft Auto games, as they involved prostitutes and killing police officers. Had either showed aberrant or aggressive behavior , no violent games would have been allowed in our home. Let’s face it, violence depicted today is far more gratuitous and graphic than it was 40 years ago, when people who were shot fell down in a heap and that was that. In the 1960s, Sam Peckinpaugh was one of the first directors to show us slo-mo graphic violence with blood and guts. Now, our movies and TV programs have anesthetized us to exploding heads and intestines by constantly pushing the envelope. And as for the gentleman who thinks that grinding on the dance floor is the same as accidentally brushing a girl’s hip, ask todays teachers and parents if they like the fact that their 12 and 13 year old students and children are happy being sexualized at such an early age. Psychologists are linking the increase in early sexual activity to substance abuse and depression. Bottom line, parents need to be parents. Stop talking on the cell phone in the car and talk to your kids…make them take the earphones out…eventually they’ll talk! Teach them about empathy and kindness and be examples of that in your own lives. Everyone talks about peer pressure, but kids really look to their folks for approval. Use common sense; all R-rated movie are not alike. “Schindler’s List” is an opportunity for a conversation and is NOT the same as “Drag Me to Hell”. Stop making the kids the center of your universe, as it puts way too much pressure on them to be your “everything”. Chill out about the small stuff and above all, LISTEN. And one final bit of advice, if you have troubled kids in your house, you might want to leave the assault rifles out of your very well protected arsenal. It seems that there is an equation in our society that is becoming more prevalent: troubled kids, plus violent video games that glorify assault rifles, plus access to those weapons, equals tragedy on an epic scale.
Stoobie
January 2nd, 2013
12:21 pm
As a low-income single parent, I confess that I relied heavily on the electronic “Babysitter” of TV and Video games since I couldn’t afford decent day care for my two young sons. At least I knew where they were after school before I got home from work. That being said, parents need to pay attention to what their kids are doing with their spare time, and respond accordingly.
Games like “Halo,” “Assassin’s Creed,” “Call of Duty,” “World of Warcraft,” “Grand Theft Auto.” – These games are NOT for children! You wouldn’t buy your 7 year old a pack of cigarettes and a fifth of Scotch, Why on earth would you let them get their hands on violent video games and movies before they are old enough to understand the difference between real life and fantasy? Back then, my kids played “violent” video games like Mortal Combat and Shinobi Warrior, and I was soundly criticized for letting them do it. The two video games that I eventually banned forever from my household, however, were “Micro Machines” racing game, and “Marble Madness” because my kids always ended up arguing and fighting over them in REAL LIFE! It wasn’t their exposure to violence that caused them to fight with each other, it was the frustration and helplessness they felt after losing in a game they couldn’t win anyway – not unlike the frustration and helplessness in the REAL lives that some people live day after day after day….
It’s time to stop blaming video games, guns, fast cars, motorcycles and everything else for dangerous and violent behaviour. The REAL problem isn’t that difficult to figure out, but the infinite human capacity for denial allows us to ignore the obvious. It is Anger, frustration, hatred and lack of respect that pushes us to violent actions, not something as silly as a game, and until we are able to accept the fact that WE are the problem – to acknowledge and cope this sickness of chronic anger that plagues every one of us and our entire society – nothing will change.
SPARKY
January 2nd, 2013
12:24 pm
@Maureen,
They play video games a lot more in Japan than in the US. No violence because they don’t have the violent cowboy culture that the US prides itself on.
mountain man
January 2nd, 2013
12:29 pm
“BUT let’s not blame the individual that carried out this horrible act. ”
Of COURSE we blame the individual, but what good does that do? Will it protect or bring back the 26 dead? We are trying for PREVENTIVE measures.
It does no good to increasse the penalty for murder, because the killer has already executed himself. We have to come up with ways to prevent the crime before it happens. That may involve better metal health evaluations, better parenting, limiting access to guns, limiting acces to violent video games, additional guards or better security at schools.
Iron Ghost
January 2nd, 2013
12:30 pm
Parents have a duty, that duty is to raise their kids to be productive members of society. Any parent with a child or a relative that is as mentally disturbed as the young man that shot up Sandy Hook elementary, should have had those guns and ammunition secured at all times, regardless that he was legally an adult. Parents need to quit covering up their children criminal acts, and dangerous behavior and get these kids some help. In the end, when these disturbed children hurt or kill some one, and as a parent you have done nothing but hide and coverup the problems, then that parent is responsible just the same for what happens.
Dr. Monica Henson
January 2nd, 2013
12:35 pm
“Letting my daughter watch movies like Mississippi Burning, and Schindler’s List, isn’t [horrible parenting].”
I agree, but I sure wouldn’t allow a 5 or 6 year old to watch either of those, and an older elementary schooler I’d want to watch it with me so I could answer questions and put some historical context around the films.
What I’m talking about is the fact that no decent parent would drag a child that age to a theater to see a slasher flick, or hand over the remote control with no monitoring and allow a 5 or 6 year old to watch The Walking Dead or Sons of Anarchy or any number of television programs that may actually be quite good for teenagers and adults (I’m a big fan of the The Walking Dead and watch it with my teenagers and young adult children at home).
Those who think that being an actual parent and having both some awareness AND some control over what their young children view and play with is advocating going back to the 1950s need to calm down and stop falling into the either/or fallacy of thinking.
Dr. Monica Henson
January 2nd, 2013
12:40 pm
“Aren’t you the same person who is all for stealing money from local systems to give to Nathan Deals secret little commission that will decide who offers enough in bribe money to get to build so called “charter schools” where ever Nathan Deal needs to gain political favors and more bribes?”
Fred, why don’t you come Downtown and visit our charter public high school district headquarters? Take a look at the work that is being done, and who is being served? You can email me at monica.henson@ga.provostacademy.com with your availability and I’ll be glad to show you around.
State & federal appropriation of funds to a PUBLIC school is constitutional and not theft, by the way, whether it’s a charter or a district school.
Finally, it’s humorously ironic that someone posting under a pseudonym charges a public entity like the Charter School Commission with being “secret.”
Dr. Monica Henson
January 2nd, 2013
12:43 pm
ImaDAD posted, “Start with being a freakin’ PARENT and not your child’s best friend!!! The word “NO” didn’t kill me and it will not kill my kids either. Just because the game may not be appropriate for your child or their age or even perhaps their mental capacity, doesn’t mean it can’t be ENTERTAINMENT for older, mature, or those with the mental capacity.”
Exactly. Well said.
David
January 2nd, 2013
12:50 pm
I’m genuinely stunned at the number of hostile responses to the suggestion that violent video games might have something to do with these types of shootings.
Here’s what I told my two sons (ages 13 and 11) this week after we saw a Call of Duty commercial: when you can look a combat solider in the eye and tell him that what he does qualifies as entertainment, then I’ll buy the game for them.
And for those of you who think I’m coddling and protecting my sons: you’re exactly correct. Because they’re not adults. They’re children, and with pop culture trying its best to encourage them to grow up faster, I’m going to do my damn best to stand in their way so my boys will grow into young men of character at their own pace.
Susan
January 2nd, 2013
12:51 pm
The young man who committed this crime in Newtown was mentally ill. His mother had tried desperately to get help for him, however, as a society we no longer care for our mentally ill much. They are on their own – or sent to the total care of their families.
Blaming this action on video games is magical thinking: If I can find something that I can control, then I can control my environment to the point that I’ll be safe from harm. That is never true. Random is random.
I will say though, that the one obvious help in this story is that the classrooms that had at least two adults in the room had no fatalities. Staffing up and ensuring there are plenty of adults to corral children in emergencies is a key to surviving a disaster of most any kind. Be prepared – not in denial.
Timmy
January 2nd, 2013
12:51 pm
I agree with the writer; however, Americans usually focus only on the guns. It is time to put the focus on video games and movies that desensitized us to blood, gore and death.
Jan
January 2nd, 2013
1:05 pm
There is no reason to believe that these children suddenly are not the product of parenting (or the lack thereof). Maybe the attempt to create a less violent environment will create less violent parents? Maybe not. Fact is that this country has seen a more than proportional part of graphic violence and many adults still see more weapons as a solution. Sure, there are no simple solutions to complex problems (especially not in a country with so many dogmas) but it seems to me that any attempt to stop the madness is likely to fail in a society where anybody with a temper and not enough restrain can pull a weapon of mass destruction. Violent video games are played all over the world. Capable parents know how to deal with that.
Devil's Advocate
January 2nd, 2013
1:13 pm
Life sure did improve once we got rid of “Cops and Robbers” as well as “Cowboys and Indians”.
lahopital
January 2nd, 2013
1:14 pm
Using a survey to identify “aggressive behavior” is not a very rigorous way to make a measurement. Respondents who play video games may just be more likely characterize their actions as being violent. People in Canada, Japan, the UK and every other first world country play the same violent video games and maintain low murder rates, yet the murder rate in the USA is similar to those in the third world. The USA has been a violent country since its founding. The only things I see as possibly unique about us are that 1) we take insults too seriously (defending one’s “honor” or being “dissed”, 2) we have a very competitive society, 3) we are not as homogeneous as some societies , 4) we don’t institutionalize our mentally ill, and 5) we have easy access to guns – which allows any issue to become deadly in an instant.
cgregister
January 2nd, 2013
1:20 pm
Sorry for the incomplete post. Parents MUST be involved in their childrens’ lives. They MUST monitor their friends and what they purchase and do. Being a parent is a full time job. You are their parent, not their friend and you need to act accordingly. I have seen so many parents who let their kids rule the roost, without any reprimands. If you, as a parent don’ t do your job, don’t blame anyone else for your childs’ shortcomings but yourself. You, the parent,have control of everything, if you do it the correct way. It takes being a stern disciplinarian and continually saying “No”; hearing the words “I hate you”, but in the long run you reap tremendous rewards.
commoncents
January 2nd, 2013
1:31 pm
As many here already pointed out (and I have said in the past), parenting is the problem. Specifically, lack of parenting. Stop trying to be your child’s friend and give them the video games and movies that they shouldn’t be seeing when they are 12 years old.
Games have ratings for a reason, and when I play Call of Duty online (just got the new one for Christmas, it’s fun!) I am amazed that many of the other people sound like they are 12 years old, swearing up a storm, and it’s going on midnight. Growing up, I had a bedtime. I got in trouble for things I shouldn’t have done, and I also got spanked. Now, kids are getting a free pass and the blame card is falling on people/corportations who’s job isn’t to babysit your child.
These are probably some of the same people who brought their 5 year old to see Django: Unchained at the 8 pm showing Christmas day.
C’mon parents… use some common sense
Life Happens
January 2nd, 2013
1:35 pm
It rained yesterday. Who do we blame for that? Man, adults act more like kids than they used to. Always have to lay blame for everything and anything. It’s embarrassing.
No Road Runner didn’t die, but I do remember parents at the time saying it teaches our kids that you can fall off a cliff and live??? Please people wise up. We played Missile Command and not 1 of my friends joined the military or built a missle:)
It’s people. I’m sorry but some are crazy. Some become crazy. I think it boils down to numbers. If I randomly put 10 people off the street in a room the chances I get a murderer is really small. If I put 400 million in a room the chances are 100%. There are more and more people which increases the chance that things like Newtown are going to happen. Oh and a Father being present in the family sure seems to help, but I know, that’s not always convenient. Just the fact that “baby mamma” is a recognized term in our society is also embarrassing!
sean
January 2nd, 2013
1:51 pm
When Ever something horrific happens, we collectively begin to point fingers at things in a vain attempt to make some sort of sense of it. NEWSFLASH- The world is FULL of BAD people. To blame Rambo Movies or Video Games or Super Hero Cartoons is just stupid. I Have two small children and am a Gamer by Hobby (When I have time.). My son is nine and plays CERTAIN games. he’s not allowed to play games that are too violent. And my wife and I do our best to keep him grounded. He plays lego batman and arkham city, I have YET to find a button to a secret cave where he keeps is cape, cowl, and fancy gadgets.
All video game retailers check IDs for violent games (I had to flash Mine in Target the other day, and I’m 38). With that being said, if your child unwrapped “Call of Duty” 8 days ago, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BLAME VIDEO GAMES! Let’s start calling a spade what it is: With ALL the parental controls on everything from ipads to cable boxes and game consoles, all of this begins at home. My son doesn’t play Grand Theft Auto, or any other game I determine to be out of his age bracket. I don’t allow him to go places where other people allow thier children to do so. When he grows up and understands a little more, I will, as a parent, re-visit the issue then. For now, all he does, watches, and plays is monitored. To blame the things around you because you are out of touch is WRONG!
Holding a controler and playing a racing game does not make you a NASCAR driver. Holding a controller and playing “Call of Duty” does not make you a Marine Corps. Sniper. If YOU are going to allow your Children to play these games, First, teach them the difference between what the see on xbox, and how to interact with people/ resolve conflicts in life. If you, AS A PARENT, think they cannot handle the difference and don’t kid yourself, Do not buy the game. Buying power has shifted to you. Be a parent….
Dan
January 2nd, 2013
1:58 pm
If the “video games influence behaviors” thought really held any merit, we’d be overrun with mind blowing dancers, world class race car drivers, and large multi-engine aircraft pilots – all aged 12 and below.
The truth is that YES, guns are far too easily obtained, but no amount of legislation is going to eliminate the mental problems that cause an individual to go on a killing spree. You can’t simply say “video games cause violence” and “guns are too common” without addressing the MASSIVE shortcomings of caring for the mentally ill.
Devil's Advocate
January 2nd, 2013
2:35 pm
It just seems like yesterday when Rambo, Terminator, and any martial arts movie was the reason for violent crime. Add to that rock and roll and gangsta rap. Sure is funny how people cannot control themselves and are so easily influenced to do bad by others. Why aren’t people easily manipulated to do good things?
Ed Johnson
January 2nd, 2013
2:41 pm
“They raise their hands when they don’t know the answer. … They understand the needs of those around them, they play with all their classmates, and they respect their parents, their teachers, and their god.”
Ah, fearless learning, trust, and cooperation! But why is it that, after a while, we get to saying:
“As parents, we need to do our best to stop our children from the desensitizing impact of video games.”
Might the desensitizing impact stem from something our culture inculcates far more deeply than video games possibly can? Something of which video games is but one expression? Something that school shootings of even six year olds is yet another expression?
http://www.artofteachingscience.org/2012/12/15/letter-president-obama-affect-educational-systems-encourage-win-lose-behavior/
http://www.artofteachingscience.org/2012/12/17/u-s-department-education-simply-out-of-touch/
Dc Wilson
January 2nd, 2013
2:47 pm
Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any statistics on the number of children killed annually by a video game-wielding madman?
Retired teacher
January 2nd, 2013
2:48 pm
I watched “Road Runner” as a child in the early 70s. The difference between that cartoony violence and the violence that children are exposed to these days is simple:
I only had 3 channels to pick from in the early 70s. When “Looney Tunes” went off, there wasn’t much else to pick from and I went outside to play. Of course I threw rocks at my sister, but she also threw them back. I quit once I got hit in the head a few times.
These days, kids have dozens of channels to pick from. They also have tvs in their rooms whereas we had one tv for our entire family. And there are also DVDs in cars so that parents don’t have to spend time actually talking to their kids.
Parents need to just put their foot down. Unplug the darned things, and spend time with their kids.
sloboffthestreet
January 2nd, 2013
2:53 pm
We have a call of duty as parents? This is true but here we have another kind of crazy when people claim playing a game causes people to become murderers.
Perhaps the mother had a call of duty to be a responsible gun owner and keep her weapons secure at all times. Knowing her child was different from the other kids, a hobby other than target shooting would have been more appropriate for her son. Perhaps we can blame the shootings on the fact that they came from New Hampshire where the state motto is “Live Free or Die.” I read one report where the mother was going to institutionalize her son. If she was as free with her plans as she was with her weapons, just maybe the young man snapped over the fear of being completely removed from the one person he could count on to care for him feeling completely abandoned. As he pushed his father and brother away after their parents divorce and his fathers new marriage there appears to have been a huge dynamic that existed between the mother and son. It is possible this was created by the mother and her own words. We don’t pay enough attention to mental illness in this country until it leads to tragedy. We don’t see gun ownership as the tremendous responsibility it is until it is to late. So many claim they need weapons to defend themselves when all to often they only bring the ultimate pain to those that surround them and others that have nothing to do with the situation.
There may be several reasons for this situation but to blame it on a video game as a simple solution is far fetched and very irresponsible to write or publish. The media did a terrible job tripping over each other to be the first to report any of the news, factual or not, related to the shootings. A little more thought before writing, printing or reporting anything relating to such a situation would be proper.
Joel
January 2nd, 2013
3:10 pm
We will continue to suffer these tragedies as long as we confuse cause and effect. People play violent video games, own guns and use government violence for social change as a result of human nature. Help people control their emotions and you will help decrease unnecessary violence.
Another Math Teacher
January 2nd, 2013
4:39 pm
Monica Henson: “Tom & Jerry, the Road Runner, and Marvin the Martian are nothing like the violent, adult-rated video games (and television shows)”
Flew right over your head, didn’t it? Every few years the boogeyman changes.
Emulating cartoon violence. Non-terminal violence causing severe injuries/death. (Kids do not understand that people die from these things, so they do them.)
Emulating violent video games. Terminal violence. (Kids do understand that people die from these things, so they do them.)
Emulating violent pencil and paper games. Terminal violence.
Music, several times. Back masking, subliminal messages. Terminal violence to self and others.
(Blame Target) is responsible for (societal problem related to children.) Children copy these actions because they (do/do not) understand that the actions cause real world consequences.
It’s the same thing over and over. Stupid people blaming something they don’t understand rather than watching their kids. It’s just bad parents trying to justify their “it’s not my fault” stance.
As for video games, have I missed the articles where the killer yells “PWNED!” while tea-bagging a corpse? Did the killer say “PEW! PEW! PEW!” while firing off rounds? Did he have Cheeto dust on his hands? Was he all hopped up on Mountain Dew? Are we sure he intentionally killed himself? Maybe it was a mistimed rail gun jump.
USC-69
January 2nd, 2013
4:39 pm
I agree with the Headmaster that teaching children to shoot other people in the head and enjoy the splatter is not a good idea. The large number of people in this blog that think that it is points out a major societal problem. More importantly, we should note that the mother of the New Town shooter legally purchased hand-guns and a semi-automatic rifle designed to resemble the same guns used in many of these videos. She took the son to the rifle range and taught him to shoot. These guns were accessible to a young man with a life-long history of a personality disorder so severe that it was recognized by everyone who had come in contact with him. The mother and son were not members of a ‘well-regulated militia’ nor was their possession of these fire-arms ‘necessary to the security of a free state’. The destructive nature of video games teaching children to murder is obvious. Giving children guns requires law enforcement to find their parents as accessories. Enforcement of Article II of the Bill of Rights should have begun long ago and the repeated misstatement of it to allow unregulated civilians access to lethal weapons must be discontinued.
Ole Guy
January 2nd, 2013
4:50 pm
Recaping an earlier blog on parental responsibilities, in general, and specificaly, the poor judgement the dead mother of this apparently unstable kid exhibited…one certainly does not wish to trample upon the grave of this mom. However, it cannot be diputed that, given her son’s (presumably known) mental disposition, this parent was way way out of line in the responsibility department. Had she survived, there is little doubt that she, and she alone, would have suffered the legal wrath of the parents of these dead kids.
Given that we no longer (if, indded, we ever really did) live in the innocence of the so-called “Beaver Days”, we witness, day in and day out, such reprehensible behavior of youth…SOMEONE must be held accountable. Given the public outcry, in my more-past comments on the revitalization of “the stick” over the “kind word”, just exactly what are YOU to do with these kids, and their parents, who somehow don’t seem to get the message…WITH RIGHTS COME RESPONSIBILITIES. Just as we are quick to demand our rights, let us not overlook a demand for accountability.
bootney farnsworth
January 2nd, 2013
5:09 pm
just what teh situtation needs. another touchy feely response instead of taking a hard look at reality
Beverly Fraud
January 2nd, 2013
5:19 pm
Finally @Dr. Henson and for profit charters. You do realize when Office Depot, Microsoft, mop makers, tool makers, lawnmower manufacturers and the like sell to the traditional public schools, all of them sell at cost don’t you, and categorically refuse to make any profit off the transactions right?
Response from Dr. Henson
Absolutely not true.
Dr. Henson, you were aware that I was totally, completely weren’t you?
bu2
January 2nd, 2013
5:40 pm
@retired teacher
I think you may have hit upon the point. It may be an excess of relatively passive viewing that’s a problem. All boys had guns in the 60s and played Cowboys and Indians and soldier. And everyone watched the Roadrunner.
Of course, after watching the Roadrunner for a while, I really wanted the Coyote to blow that smartaleck bird to bits.
bu2
January 2nd, 2013
5:43 pm
I don’t think video games are “the” reason for the problems, but as much as we keep learning about how the brain works and develops, parents should use discretion, especially with pre-adolescents, and there should be more study.
I love teaching. I hate what it is becoming...
January 2nd, 2013
6:13 pm
I do not know whether “video games” cause violence but I do believe they have a very real effect on how the mind perceives reality – especially in heavy doses. I speak from personal experience. I have never been into gaming. I am of the generation prior to video games. Pac Man and Pong were cutting edge in my day. However, a few years ago, I received a computer game as a gift. I began to play it for fun. For about three weeks, I spent an hour to three hours an evening working my way through the levels of the game. Part of the action involved having to solve a series of difficult puzzles or logic problems while fighting off the bad guys. I rather enjoyed that portion – aside from the endless supplies of evil minions. Part of the game involved basic first person shooter action. I disliked that part, and died many, many times before I could make it to the next level.
Now, to the point of this story. After a few weeks of playing this game, I noticed a change in how I was “thinking” about things. I began having the perception that I could “redo” certain events in my life if I needed to change something – much like I could reset the game when I had been killed off by the evil lackeys. The more I played the game, the more this type of ‘magical thinking” began to creep into my perceptions. One day, I had walked down to the copy room, but found I had forgotten to bring all of the papers I needed to copy. I literally thought to myself, “That’s okay. I’ll just reset myself back in the room and bring them this time.” It wasn’t, “I can walk back to the room and get them” – for a moment, I honestly thought I could just re-set my life, start back in my room, and pick up all the correct papers this time. It stopped me short. Later in the day, I spilled my mug of tea, and again, had the same kind of flash of momentary “magical thinking” about resetting life so I didn’t spill the tea. That was when it really hit me how much playing the game had affected my thinking. I stopped playing it after that. The effects on my mind were just too troublesome.
At the time this occurred, I was a fully grown adult who had lived in the “real world” for several decades. I had only been playing this one video game for a few weeks. I began to wonder what such types of games my do to the minds of children who play them hour after hour, day after day. What might violent first shooter games do to a child’s perception of reality? Could a child who has spent a childhood playing such games gun down a bunch of classmates and honestly think they could just have a do-over if they didn’t like the outcome? I don’t honestly know, but I think it is important to consider the problem. We do get desensitized to violence and incivility over time. I have noted it in myself. That does not mean I have any intention of deliberately harming anyone, but I was raised with a firm, stable foundation of morals, values and compassion for others. What about someone who is raised in a home without emotional support? What about someone who is already mentally unstable? What about a child who has a warped perception of reality due to hours spent playing games where “reality” is malleable? Are we not possibly doing them harm by allowing them to immerse themselves in a world that offers up death and destruction as entertainment? I think it is a question worth asking and seriously considering.
redweather
January 2nd, 2013
6:43 pm
We glorify gun violence in our society–always have–but it is now more pervasive (tv, movies, video games) than it’s ever been. Children are impressionable, meaning they are easily influenced for good and for ill. Every parent knows this, and that’s why responsible parents seek to maximize the positive influences in their chidren’s lives and minimize the negative ones.
Video games that equate killing people with entertainment can’t possibly have a positive influence on children. Might there ultimately be negative effects associated with these kinds of games? It would not surprise me if research eventually showed that there were.
There are negative effects associated with all kinds of behavior. That’s why parents don’t hire pimps and prostitutes as babysitters. That’s why they don’t encourage their children to smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, have unprotected sex, commit crimes, etc.
And it isn’t just children who are impressionable. When I was growing up in the fifties and sixties, most of the adults in my life smoked cigarettes. And when I was a teen, most of my friends and I smoked. That ain’t the way it is any more. Why? Because we succeeded in changing the way people think about cigarettes by enlightening them to the dangers associated with smoking, and the media played a very important role in this.
If responsible parents can see the wisdom of bringing positive influences to bear in the lives of their children, they should also be able to see the danger of allowing negative influences to have a place in their children’s lives.
Lee
January 2nd, 2013
7:19 pm
As a youngster, we built forts and lobbed dirtclod “grenades” at each other, we played cowboys and indians, we played cops and robbers, we all had BB guns as and shot tens of thousands of bb’s through them, we carried pocketknifes (even to school), most of us received a real gun (usually a single shot .22) by age 10-12, deer season saw about half the pickups in the high school parking lot with an old 30-30 or shotgun in the gun rack in the rear window. As kids and teens, we probably had more access to guns than do the youth of today.
But we would never dream of shooting up a school full of 6 year olds.
Of course, we also had mothers who stayed at home and fathers who would light our butts on fire with a belt if needed. Sunday morning saw us scrubbed clean and sitting in church. Just about all of our neighbors were related to us somehow.
Back then, I didn’t know any student who was taking behavior meds. ADD/ADHD? Never heard of it. Hyper? Get out in the yard and play and don’t drink too many Cokes was the cure. Burn that excess energy off.
We didn’t have video games, but I saw Marshal Dillon shoot at least one bad guy per week. Heck, even Roy Rogers would plug a bad guy every now and then.
Bottom line? If you have a strong moral compass and a grip on reality, then video games and violent movies are not going to affect you. If you don’t, and you are popping meds as if they were Tic Tacs, then perhaps so.
Of course, I do have to fight the urge to put a couple of rounds through the stereo of those cars that are thumping a bass at 300 decibels…
mountain man
January 2nd, 2013
7:47 pm
“The media did a terrible job tripping over each other to be the first to report any of the news, factual or not, related to the shootings. ”
Because there were no FACTS being given out! Just as I predicted, the media has moved on and we are left with a bunch of unanswered questions that the Newtown officials know the answer to but they won’t release them until the story grows cold, and then a little at a time and on the newspaper back page. They do that on purpose. Did the mom own a gun safe? Was it forced open? Did the mother try to have her son institutionalized? Did he have a credit card? Did his mom supply it? Did he order high-capacity clips and ammo over the internet? How did he pay for it? Where did he get the bulletproof vest? How did he pay for it? Inquiring minds want to know the FACTS, and no one will give them to us, so we cling to press releases from the National Inquirer. They are the ONLY ones reporting!
KB
January 2nd, 2013
8:03 pm
Isn’t there a major difference between watching someone be shot on a movie or a t.v. show and supposedly being the person doing the shooting on a video game? Video games pride themselves on making the experience as ‘real’ as possible.
What could possibly be even more ‘real’ for the gamer? Oh yes, the real thing.
SarahLynn
January 2nd, 2013
8:49 pm
I liked this essay and found his description of 6 year olds to be heartbreakingly accurate, in the context of Sandy Hook. I just wish there was more research into effects of video games. I think they sound horrible and then I read some piece citing something saying that they help,channel aggressions. I just wish there was more research. Instinct tells me the games are wrong but my instinct could be wrong. It has been before.
janet
January 2nd, 2013
10:03 pm
The comparison of Tom and Jerry and Roadrunner cartoons to the types of extremely violent video games that are out now is just plain ignorance!! Todays games show reaisitic looking humans, and realistic looking blood, and realistic sounding gunfire, and realistic dead bodies. They are NOT the same thing and the effects they have on young minds are not the same either. I don’t understand how anyone could make that arguement. (For the record, I’m not anti-gaming. My husband works in IT and is a pretty big gamer himself.)
The author’s comment that struck a big cord with me was that 6 year olds can’t even open their own carton of milk. Think about that… they can’t even open their own carton of milk…. and yet they are spending hours upon hours “killing other human beings” in the most realistic way that today’s technology can provide.
It’s true the “research” may not be there yet, but it seems like COMMON SENSE that allowing young minds to view and perpetrate these video “murders” will desensitize them. Hell, in Grand Theft Auto, you actaully get MORE points for killing the prostitute once you’re done with her. I feel like it’s 1970 and everyone is saying “Hey, there’s no actual PROOF that cigarettes can kill you”. My dad did it, my grandad did it, we’ll be fine… cough, hack, cough cough”. We
My 7 year old is begging to see The Hobbit which is rated PG-13. I will not allow it because of the level of violence…. and that fact that she is nowhere close to 13. Instead, today we went to see Rise of the Guardians (a rated PG Holiday movie). As we were leaving the theater, The Hobbit was exiting at the same time and, much to my suprise or I should say disappointment, there were A TON of 4-8 year olds in that theater. But when you allow your kid to play Halo, or Call of Duty, or Grand Theft Auto…. well, somehow a PG-13 movie doesn’t seem so inappropriate or violent. There IS such a thing as AGE APPROPRIATE. It’s funny, but it’s always the parents who allow all of this mature overexposure, whether it be to violence or hyper sexualized images, who are the ones saying… “These darn kids just grow up way too fast these days”. It’s infuriating.
Do I think that video games CAUSE kids to grow up and be sociopaths…No. Do I think that violent video games play an integral role…. ABSOLUTELY.
Fred ™
January 3rd, 2013
7:42 am
Dr. Monica Henson
January 2nd, 2013
12:40 pm
“Aren’t you the same person who is all for stealing money from local systems to give to Nathan Deals secret little commission that will decide who offers enough in bribe money to get to build so called “charter schools” where ever Nathan Deal needs to gain political favors and more bribes?”
Fred, why don’t you come Downtown and visit our charter public high school district headquarters? Take a look at the work that is being done, and who is being served? You can email me at monica.henson@ga.provostacademy.com with your availability and I’ll be glad to show you around.
State & federal appropriation of funds to a PUBLIC school is constitutional and not theft, by the way, whether it’s a charter or a district school.
Finally, it’s humorously ironic that someone posting under a pseudonym charges a public entity like the Charter School Commission with being “secret.”
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Georgia ALREADY HAD a mechanism for charter schools. What we didn’t need was for Nathan, who resigned his Congressional seat so he couldn’t be brought up on ethic s charges, to create his little secret commission.
Now YOU may think that a message board screen name and a tax payer funded commission are the same thing but they aren’t. Your snide little digs are meaningless to me and really show how shallow and ignorant you are. One would have hoped that someone such as yourself who not only benefited form a higher education but also advanced degrees would have a capacity for reasoning skills above this level. Apparently not.. You know you are helping to perpetrate a fraud and apparently are proud of it. Unfortunately you get paid for it and I don’t. Things I post here could negatively affect my WIFE’S job. Maureen knows who I am. She won’t tell you I trust because it’s none of your damn business and that journalistic sources thing I think.
But your taunts are juvenile. I PAY for my daughters private school. 20 grand a year roughly (Woodward academy, you do can google). All this new ‘amendment” does is provide “private school” for whoever the crook Nathan Deal wants to provide a private, I mean ”charter” school for, AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE. I was abut to take you up on your offer before you made your snide comment. I can’t afford to jeopardize my wife’s career on someone with an agenda and political clout to “punish” anyone who doesn’t toe the line. Your Southern Baptist “line” isn’t one I choose.
You have Nathan’s ear and OUR checkbook so you have cart blanche to continue to wreck Georgia’s already piss poor public education system. Enjoy the havoc you wreak. There isn’t much lower you can take the public schools. Thankfully I can avoid that for my child, but I weep for the other children who’s parents can’t. Enjoy your Judas gold.
long time educator
January 3rd, 2013
7:53 am
All people are affected by what we put in our minds regardless of age. As adults we choose for ourselves, but children need parental supervision. Ultimately this is a spiritual problem in our society; when individuals lack meaning they look for things to fill the void. Drugs, mindless entertainment of all types, excesses in satisfying physical hungers; these are not new, they were earlier seen as manifestations of THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS, sloth, lust, gluttony, wrath, envy, greed, and pride. Sin leads to deadening all of our sensitivity to evil. Laugh at the old way of thinking, but most of these posts are about the lack of values in our spiritually bereft society.
What's Best for Kids?
January 3rd, 2013
9:48 am
How many parents were involved completely in our lives as kids? My parents told us to go out and play and not to come back until lunch/dinner/bedtime. Not superinvolved, I would say.
We made our little people rules, we had our own caste system, and not one of us ended up in jail. My dad used to say that was pretty good odds for zeor out of five to be productive members of society.
We did things as a family, but we were also left to our own devices a lot.
I don’t think that parents are more involved than they were in the seventies or eighties.
I also can’t blame guns; we did not have them in the house, but most of our neighbors did. No one ended up on a killing spree.
I’m struggling with blaming video games, too. I think they are silly, but my husband had an Xbox for years until the first born came along; then the whole parenting thing got in the way of personal enjoyment.
I believe that this was a disturbed young man who committed a horrible act.
Warrior Woman
January 3rd, 2013
10:23 am
Why is my comment still awaiting moderation a day later? For that matter, why was my comment held for moderation at all?
Pride and Joy
January 3rd, 2013
11:07 am
Fred is an advocate of giving kids violent video games because he says he has to prepare his kids for teh real, violent world out there.
But Fred…violent video games don’t prepare the kids. When they get killed online, they get a new life, unlike the real world.
If you want to prepare the kids for the real world, how about driving under a bridge and showing them the homeless people and then taking him to a shelter and asking him to help serve those people and then emphasize homework and education so they don’t end up homeless? That’s what I did. My little children fed the homeless in person, food they helped to prepare that I purchased.
If you want to show your kids how to deal with real life, show them the horrors of what a meth-addict looks like — with scabs on his face and rotten teeth and then talk about drug addiction?
If you think showing the kids the real world will help them deal with it — then really Do show them the horrors of bad choices.
But violent video games have no good value except to make the creators rich. They sucker us out of our money.
I prefer not to be a sucker.
I spend my money on taking my children to places they can appreciate such as space camp, circus camp, gymnastics and the swim team. They get to spend time with kids their own age, socialize, learn and get and stay fit.
A game of cards with mom and dad is also a wonderful past time to teach numbers, strategy and good sportsmanship and manners. It’s also extremely cheap as other other board games which require social interaction, attention to manners (politely taking turns) and strategy. board games also show kids that parents give a rip enough about them to tear themselves away from the TV to spend some quality time with their children. Books work like that too.
There are a lot more healthy choices to teach kids about the real world than throwing an overpriced video game at them.
Pride and Joy
January 3rd, 2013
11:08 am
This author is wonderful. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate his profound statement that getting a sudafed for a cold is more difficult than buying a gun.
Pride and Joy
January 3rd, 2013
11:22 am
Dr. Monica henson is spot on when she says that public schools do not buy products “at cost.”
My friend’s son sells text books and educational materials to PUBLIC schools and he is RICH and…32 years old.
He’s also handsome and smart and he is charming and he makes a butt load off of the public schools. I’ve worked all my life and I never made half his income even in my best years.
He literally makes a fortune selling text books to public schools…at a discount.
RxDawg
January 3rd, 2013
4:05 pm
All the laws and removal of freedoms in the world won’t stop evil. Not the unrelenting kind of evil that shoots children in schools. People think they can “fix” stuff like this from happening. What I think is evil like this sees schools having a bunch of unarmed easy targets for slaughtering. The national reactions to these kinds of horrors almost disgust me as much as the act itself.
Cobb Parent
January 3rd, 2013
4:51 pm
Dr.Henson – Provost Academy is owned and operated by Edison Learning a for profit corporation. A Wall Street investment firm owns a majority stake in Edison. Edison’s CEO is a former exec at GE Capital. Edison has been around in various forms over the years yet is still not profitable. I believe it started in Great Britain and has proved over the years not be the magic potion to cure public schools. It’s looks like most Edison schools are not accredited similar to the for profit tech schools like ITT Tech.
Edison is also a huge player with ALEC whose sole mission is to destroy public governments like schools and to push ‘For Profit Charter Schools’ so that Wall Street can claim billions of taxpayer education dollars.
As long as our state general assembly – Chipper Rogers , Jan Jones etc – continues to defund public schools and fund (2x the dollars) Charter Schools I will continue to be skeptical of the for profit charter movement no matter how they are marketed.
lahopital
January 3rd, 2013
6:19 pm
Nobody has yet to explain how, since the Japanese (or, pick your country) play these same games, their murder rates are a tiny fraction of ours. It would make more sense to blame American football or the fact that the US has more churches than other countries. At least those are things that are different about this country.
Atlanta Mom
January 3rd, 2013
6:34 pm
For all you folks wondering why Japan doesn’t have a gun problem
“In part by forbidding almost all forms of firearm ownership, Japan has as few as two gun-related homicides a year.” http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/
DUH
Ed Johnson
January 3rd, 2013
7:49 pm
@Cobb Parent, Chip Rogers has quit the legislature and gone to work for Georgia Public Broadcasting (GPB), seemingly the result of a Deal deal.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/12/05/lets-be-honest-chip-rogers-is-being-paid-to-go-away/
Dr. Monica Henson
January 3rd, 2013
8:24 pm
Fred, I happen to be Presbyterian.
Our school is at nearly 1,000 enrollment as of this week, 72% of which are free & reduced lunch-eligible, more than 60% minority, and more than 16% special education–hardly the population one would expect to find in a private school, and far higher a percentage of needy population than the state average for Georgia public high schools.
Even with those demographics, our kids posted a 92% proficiency rate on the 2012 Georgia High School Writing Test–virtually equalling the state average proficiency– after being with our teachers for only three months before taking the exam. If that’s the kind of havoc we can wreak, then I say open the gates and let’s wreak away. We happen to be wreaking it at a rough average of $5,450 per student–I call that a bargain for the taxpayers, myself.
What you perceive as “snide little digs” are my effort at good-natured ribbing. Surely you can see the irony in hiding behind a pseudonym at the same time that you accuse others of ulterior motives and creating secret cabals. Lighten up!
Dr. Monica Henson
January 3rd, 2013
8:31 pm
Cobb Parent, EdisonLearning does not “own” or operate Provost Academy Georgia. We are a public high school, “owned” by the State Board of Education (via a state special charter) and operated by a nonprofit Board of Directors, none of whom is an employee or otherwise affiliated with EdisonLearning. All administrative decisions for the school are made by me, along with my fellow administrators. We are all public employees of the Board of Directors and members of the Georgia Teachers Retirement System.
Our board has a contract with EL to provide education services, most of which is “back office” support, such as human resources and purchasing. EL has a presence in more than 30 states in the U.S., most of which is in school turnaround partnership, as well as the U.K., the Middle East, and China. Just as a public school district with an elected board has contracts with providers to purchase textbooks, professional development (training), office products, machinery, etc., our public charter single-school statewide district has a contract with EL and several other providers. For example, we purchase office supplies from Office Depot, a for-profit corporation, and internet service from AT&T, another for-profit corporation.
Dr. Monica Henson
January 3rd, 2013
8:34 pm
We just received last week our materials from AdvancED/SACS for Provost Academy Georgia to begin our accreditation process, by the way. EdisonLearning holds corporate accreditation from the Northwest Accreditation Commission, a member of AdvancED, as well as the Middle States Association.
Beverly Fraud
January 4th, 2013
4:28 am
@Dr. Henson, I would hope your school would consider the Georgia Accreditation Commission, given the numerous instances of questionable ethics from SACS
Malcolm Campbell
January 5th, 2013
2:01 pm
I think my wife and I have come up with a long term solution to making our schools safer. First consider what it would cost to put armed guards in schools and how many would be required at each school. Now here’s our plan. Put bullet proof doors on every classroom (with a bullet proof window in each as required). These doors would have locks on them that require a key from the hall but open without one from the classroom. Next every classroom wall that faces the hall would be paneled with bullet proof material. All ground level outside facing windows would be bullet proof with at least one per room being of the kick out (not kick in) variety for safety reasons in case of fire or some such emergency. Of course the initial cost would be expensive, but given the life of a school would pay for itself when considering the lives protected when weighed against the cost of salaries of who knows how many armed guards per school for the number of years in a schools life. 1 guard @ $20,000/year X 5 guards X 30 years per school. Just an idea to be considered when trying to protect children.
Brian Wilson
January 8th, 2013
9:39 am
I own Atlanta Firearms Training – a company that teaches adults and teenagers to use firearms safely and effectively for self defense. As I read this article and the ensuing comments I am reminded of Chapter Seven of a book we highly recommend to our students “On Combat” by Dr. David Grossman. Insights from this chapter: In 2001 Standord conducted a study where a group of student’s had their baseline agression measured and then had their TV viewing time severely restricted over 20 weeks. Results: A 40% reduction in physical agression and a 50% reduction in verbal agression. Another interesting insight from this chapter is some facts from Dr. James McGhee, an FBI consultant who has studied school mass murderers:
*All refused to participate in any disciplined activity or sport.
*None were in varsity sports
*None had trained extensively in martial arts.
*None were in Junior ROTC.
*None of them were a competitive teenage shooter. (a sport where you are kicked out for not exercising safety discipline)
*None of them had a hunting license. (requires discipline and safety training)
*None was an avid paintball player (a sport where, if you don’t exercise safety discipline, you can get hurt)
All of these activities teach some level of agression but coupled with that, they also teach disciplined restraint. The common thread of strict protocols, expectations of certain behaviors,…..in other words, associated demanding discipline is the common thread in these activities, AND the lack of such discipline in the lives of school shooters is the common thread. In society, millions of private citizens own “assault rifles” and many of them legally own full automatic weapons. But the VAST majority – the VAST majority of these individuals will never use those weapons against others except for self defense. Why? Because they were inculcated with the sense of responsibility, attention to detail, and self-discipline by their parents and teachers. Discipline, or the lack of it, is the common thread.
Military training is designed to desensitize young recruits to killing another human being. Despite this how many ex-soliders have been involved in mass murders? On one hand military training DOES desensitize young men and women to killing BUT it also imposes strict discipline on the individuals and stricit limitations on the use of violent skills, with draconian penalities for violating those limits. Again the teaching of personal discipline and the imposition of strict limits prevents these soldiers from using their lethal skills except in cases where the use of those skills is entirely justified.
Violent video games and violent media entertainment is another method of desensitizing our children to visiting violence on others – only it DOES NOT provide the associated levels of discipline and limitations on that desensitization. There are over a thousand peer-reviewed studies including the Journal of the American Medical Association that have found a direct correlation between violence in the media and teenage violence against others. A 1972 Surgeon General’s study also correlates these findings. A final insight comes from a state sponsored Canadian school (featured in the Chapter mentioned above) for violent teens that totally cut out television and video games from a group of students. Results: A 90% reduction in violence in that group compared to other groups at the school. Yet the broadcast media bury these stories because ultimately such publicity would hurt their bottom lines.
What these results say is what Second Amendment advocates have been saying all along: Until we deal with the human – until we wake up and understand how our popular media saturates our children with violent images and role models – indoctrination that teaches them that violence is the first best option to solve problems, and until we support the imposition of strict discipline in our schools – until we support the teachers and principles advocating strict student discipline in our classrooms, we will continue to see Columbines, we will continue to see Auroras, we will continue to see Sandy Hooks.
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Debbie
January 18th, 2013
11:41 am
Dad says no violent games I am sure for a reosan. I hate to say that it could be your attitude right now. I am a parent and we tend to take away our kids favorite things, like violent games if they seem to be acting out. How ever it is your dads decision what you play unless you are 18 or on your own. so I have some suggestions that aren’t child games like some I have seen listed. And I am a gamer myself, I could care less what people think of a Mom who plays her 360 as often as she likes. How about Guitar hero any of them, Rock band. You don’t like sports but you like to be challenged. Tomb Raider the newest one, Not violent at all unless your dad doesn’t want you to kill a beast in a cave. which would be stupid. Shaun White snow boarding. Scene it. You know there are just so many war type games where killing another person, EVEN if they are computer generated, makes you less sensitive to the value of life. Its is the way it is. And yes Gears of war one and two are both Violent, duh, all you do it kill the enemy. What is so sweet and sensitive about that? I suppose since dad buys that games, and dad has the say so, you are going to have to look for something else. Parent try to teach respect to their kids. and to hear things like, do what you want how will he know, or ignore him, well that will get you farther from your goals.Was this answer helpful?