In light of the state board of education concerns about Georgia Cyber Academy, I asked the director of the online charter school to make a statement.
Here is a response from head of school Matt Arkin:
GCA has been committed to working collaboratively with the Department of Education since our launch in 2007. When, in early 2012 Department of Education staff came to us with concerns regarding the growth of our Special Education population, GCA met with DOE staff, provided all requested information in a timely manner, and cooperated fully in a completely transparent manner.
When the DOE identified a list of issues to be addressed in May, GCA moved swiftly to address every issue identified in a comprehensive manner (including the addition of over 25 new special education teachers and support staff), and met every deadline that was identified by the DOE without delay.
GCA has met every deadline and addressed every issue identified by the DOE to date, as Lynda White, the consultant that Debbie Gay, the DOE Special Education Director, personally selected for us to work with has confirmed.
Lynda is a former superintendent in Butts County and special education director in Cobb County, and she has been working very closely with GCA staff on improving special education at GCA since May and has a very different perspective on the work that we’ve done than what you’ve heard from the DOE.
I am providing a letter sent from her to the Odyssey/GCA Board chair in September (after the substantial work of addressing the DOE’s concerns had been completed), and I would call your attention to a couple of specific comments in the letter:
• “I consider (GCA) to be in substantial compliance and anticipate acknowledgement of this by the DOE”
• “(I)n my opinion, GCA is currently as compliant with regards to Federal and State Special Education regulations as any other public school district in Georgia that is currently serving 1200 students with disabilities.
From an academic perspective, comparing the results from GCA’s students with disabilities to the state average on the tests you referenced you’ll find that GCA students outscored the state average on 4 out of 6 of the tests (above in Math 1, Biology, and 3rd & 8th grade Reading; below in 3rd and 8th grade Math), in addition to beating the state average in 8th grade science and 9th grade Literature & Composition.
We agree that improving the academic performance of students with disabilities remains an important priority for all schools in Georgia. As to 2010-11 AYP results, GCA met 29 out of 30 AYP indicators (including all 5 indicators for Students with Disabilities), failing only to meet the remaining one indicator by 0.1%, or 8 students out of nearly 4,000 tested.
Misleading results like these are one reason that Georgia chose to move away from the AYP system last year.
As far as parent complaints, the DOE has received complaints from less than 10 parents of GCA students with Special Needs out of over 1,200 Special Education parents over the last 18 months – a very small percentage. We have still yet to be informed of any identified issues from a comprehensive monitoring visit by DOE staff last month, nor have we had any opportunity to respond to any of the concerns raised.
The process that we have been subjected to by the DOE is one that appears unique to a state charter school like GCA. In addition, we have made a number of formal and informal requests for assistance from the DOE for GCA Special education students and staff over the last 18 months – all of which are provided to students in traditional districts. Specifically, the DOE:
• Neglected to provide the school $1.4M in state funds it was owed during FY12
• Neglected to provide access for GCA administrators to the state special education data system during FY12
• Neglected to provide access to the state Medicaid reimbursement process during FY12
• Continues to neglect to provide GCA students or staff access to the Georgia Learning Resources System (GLRS)
• Continues to neglect to provide access for GCA students to Georgia Network for Education and Therapeutic Supports (GNETS)
• Continues to neglect to provide access for GCA students to regional related services co-ops available to other (non-charter school) districts around the state
We have strived to work collaboratively with DOE staff throughout the process they have identified – unfortunately negative comments were made publicly before providing the school or our Board with a report or opportunity to respond to any findings. We plan to continue to work as we always have to continue to improve the academic experience for our students with Special Needs and all GCA students.
–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog
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bootney farnsworth
November 14th, 2012
7:02 pm
this is the one are where chraters should kick serious butt. a group of students who need intensive support and intimate educational support.
that said, charter/no charter, the DOE and its local parasites, the BOEs remain the real problems.
until Georgia parents and lawmakers are ready to deal with that….
Pride and Joy
November 14th, 2012
7:07 pm
Sounds like the local BOE wanted the cyber charter to fail and was doing everything in their power to close it down.
Cyber charters and other charters are a threat to the local BOEs and the people that financially benefit from sucking tax payer dollars out of the traditional public schools to line their own pockets.
Plenty of corruption in traditional public schools and boards.
Amber
November 14th, 2012
7:20 pm
As the parent of a special needs child at GCA, I can say that he has gotten better service through GCA than he ever did in the local public schools. He has grown and become so much more confident in his three years with GCA than he ever was in seven years of public school. Thank you GCA and Matt Arkin for everything you have done for my son.
No
November 14th, 2012
7:23 pm
Oh, let me guess- GCA is non-union?
Simonsmom, GCA schooled and proud of it
November 14th, 2012
7:28 pm
Turn about if fair play. When the state BOE decides to quit playing favorites, quit putting politics ahead of our children, maybe we can get something done. This is ridiculous. Give the Schools, the teachers, and the parents they need , and they will show you results. Everyone gets a choice in this life. We now, thanks to the vote , have an option. That means choice in education for all of our children. We need to focus on the kids. The entire State of Georgia Education Department needs an overhaul. And trust me… our GCA parents are fired up right now to the point that we are willing to do whatever it takes to support our school and protect our choice in education. Matt Arkin and the team with GCA is second to NONE in this state in working WITH parents, children, families , etc.. to involve the WHOLE community around that child to make sure each child has what he/she needs. Yes we have issues, but good grief what school system in this nation does not. I implore the BOE to think about the steps that they are taking. We expect the State Board of Education to hold just as accountable EVERY single Public School in the state. We have children dying in schools because of lack of concern or neglect… children being locked in closets, children being beaten, bullied, and God only knows what else. The BOE should work with us , not try to dismantle what we work so hard for every day.
schooling Mom
November 14th, 2012
7:37 pm
My son is a GCA special education student. My son never got the help he needed at our local elementary school. He has excelled with the help of GCA special education dept. All of the teachers and staff are always helpful. If you are going after GCA, I think you should go after every school in the state. In my county they refused to look at his medical file. Is that helping special needs kids. My child actually gets the help he needs. GCA is wonderful. Teacher and Administration included.
catlady
November 14th, 2012
7:43 pm
P and J: Did you read the intro? GCA IS NOT a locally-approved charter school! Hence, the local BOE has no influence over it, nor obligation to it! Indeed, since it is a state-wide charter school, which local BOE ae you saying is trying to get rid of it?
Really?
November 14th, 2012
7:48 pm
Gotta get them outta the way so the new one that fronted all the money to get the amendment passed has room to move in.
So obvious.
GCA proud mom
November 14th, 2012
8:23 pm
GCA has by far exceeded the quality of education my children receive in comparison to our local brick and mortar school experience. GCA has not only followed my child’s IEP down to every detail, but has worked hard to make sure we receive all necessary special ed services in a timely manner; Which is something the local school failed to do. The teachers at GCA have worked diligently to find my children’s strengths and weaknesses and make sure all learning concerns are addressed as quickly as possible. I hope the BOE holds each and every traditional school as accountable as they are making GCA.
I am here
November 14th, 2012
8:54 pm
GCA is my choice for my child. The brick and mortar school denied the diagnosis the doctors gave and did not provide him the services he needed. As soon as I found out restraints were used we moved to another school only to find out at an IEP meeting he was “lost” or that he “left the playground and when they found him”. How did they tell me this? As justification for him not needing physical therapy. Right. My child who has spine surgery at least twice a year. Not one person called me when he was lost or the day it happened. GCA is not being investigated for cheating on the CRCT or stealing free school lunches. My child has regular visits in the home by contracted therapist for GCA and classes that are progressive and he moves at his own pace, learning. He has caring teachers who ask what they can do and advise me as his learning coach. He is not “census” for a B&M school. He is a person who is being provided the services and guidance he needs to learn. If I had anything to do with it, his funding would follow him. Without GCA we would be home schooling on our own simply because of the danger the county school system places him in. If only the BOE would investigate all schools…they have over crowed class rooms, not enough aides, and the teachers are stressed. GCA is a better way for us. My child cannot come home and tell me what is happening to him. I am his voice. I will not put him in harms way. I will not lose the services GCA is providing. Not if I can help it.
creative mom
November 14th, 2012
8:56 pm
You got to say, after all this is said and done, GCA rocks. For it to come to light ,all they have not been given and still only 10 parents have complained about the special Ed department. Wow.. can you say that about brick and mortar schools that are given twice the amount to educate children. We not only get less from the state, we also get no local funding and still manage, to only have 10 complaints out of 1,200 special needs students.
living in an outdated ed system
November 14th, 2012
8:57 pm
symptomatic of an outdated education system. There are two sides to every story. Seems to me we are seeing ever-increasing signs of a failure of leadership at the DOE. It’s very telling when the DOE decides to leak reports into the court of public opinion before the facts were discussed with GCA.
This is gonna get ugly, I’m afraid, and simply feeds into the paranoia from commenters on this blog, most who oppose the charter school amendment.
living in an outdated ed system
November 14th, 2012
8:59 pm
Bravo, Schooling Mom. The Digital Education Council can use your firsthand testimonials because when used correctly, virtual learning can be effective.
Ron
November 14th, 2012
9:03 pm
A cyber academy? Got to be kidding.
I am here
November 14th, 2012
9:11 pm
GCA is my choice for my child. They have provided services he needs, they have fine tuned his IEP and everyone is on board. They provide therapists who come into my home and work with him, following his IEP to the letter. Teachers work with him to help identify what he needs and motivate him to work to his potential. His progress has been amazing, thanks to GCA.
I send him back to the B&M schools. They never provided what he needed, denied his documented medical diagnosis and acted as if the tests never existed and they never heard me. Maybe the BOE needs to look around.
Momoftwods
November 14th, 2012
9:17 pm
Catlady…where have you been? Local BOEs pushed so hard to have the Amendment not pass, why? Because they claim it takes money from them….their state money that they would get if the charters were not in existence. So yes, they dont want ANY charter schools because they believe it takes their money. Is this correct? No but that is what local BOEs believe.
bootney farnsworth
November 14th, 2012
9:49 pm
nice to see the charter zealots tip their hand.
if charters fail, we did it.
thanks P&J
bootney farnsworth
November 14th, 2012
10:00 pm
there’s nothing wrong with a digital academy for some kids, but it’s not a one size fits all
Silence Dogood
November 14th, 2012
10:13 pm
Matt Arkin and GCA = a class act.
LarryMajor
November 14th, 2012
10:25 pm
Momoftwods, I don’t know how Cat could have been clearer. This school has a state-wide attendance zone and there are no local BOEs involved. The only parties are the school and the State BOE. Nothing in your comment is relevant to this issue.
As to creative mom’s question, yeah, I think brick and mortar schools can make exactly that claim.
Based on the number of GCPS students in the seven state SPED categories, this translates to over 200 state level complaints in the same time frame. No, the State BOE isn’t getting nine complaints a week from Gwinnett parents and I doubt that any school system could approach this level of dissatisfaction without ending up on the front page.
lahopital
November 14th, 2012
10:26 pm
Pride and Joy – this is the STATE BOE complaining about this school – not the local BOE. The STATE is who the recently passed amendment put into the charter school business. Wonder why they don’t like this one?
Truth in Moderation
November 14th, 2012
11:18 pm
“Wonder why they don’t like this one?”
I would guess it’s the money. For many special needs kids, a home school environment with professional support for their disabilities, is far superior than sticking them in a traditional school. Those that posted in favor of GCA have special needs kids and they all claim they were getting services they were DENIED in a B&M school. That means the more costly services are now being paid out of the State Budget and the program is growing in popularity among this population. That means even MORE money. They really don’t want too much success with this particular group of kids….cuts into bonuses, I guess.
Jmontour
November 15th, 2012
12:06 am
Only 10 parents complained? So only 10 out of how many actually spoke up? I’ve talked with 6 parents myself only in the past day that have had the same issues with GCA. I’m sure there are MANY more that haven’t made formal complaints.
I was having issues with the b&m school. I enrolled my kids into GCA. I thought this would be the perfect solution! My daughter wouldn’t have to miss school for her numerous appointments and surgeries. She would still get the same services that she has always gotten at the b&m school. Awesome! Yeah, not so much. It took so long to set up an IEP meeting that her IEP actually expired. When we did have her IEP meeting, it was the teachers first one! She had NO clue what she was doing! During the meeting we set an appt. for a Special Ed meeting. It NEVER happened! They NEVER started her special ed classes. They actually never started any services at all! They were expecting her to still complete the grade level work knowing she wasn’t able to. I was so disappointed, so angry. I withdrew both of my kids after only a few months. Never again. As much as I can not stand her b&m school, at least she’s ALWAYS gotten the services that she needs.
April Brewster
November 15th, 2012
12:11 am
GCA not only helped my child pass the CRCT last year, but gave him the self esteem he needed to achieve it! He has a whole new out look on learning now…a more positive one.Everyone saids he even looks happier, thanks to GCA! Every child deserves the right to a education, weather it be through GCA or B/M. GCA may not be for all familes, but it is a great fit for ours. My son deserves the right to a education even if that means stepping away from “tradition” to receive it!! GCA will always have my vote!
jw
November 15th, 2012
1:02 am
Oh, this story is going to get much uglier as it plays out in the larger context of the new wave of state chartered schools that is coming since passage of the new amendment. Don’t you just see the battle between the commission approving the schools and a state superintendent that did not support the amendment. It’s going to get really ugly…and unfortunately, it will be some of the most vulnerable students in GA that will pay the price. *smh* So very sad.
misstrippy
November 15th, 2012
4:06 am
Sounds like anti charter John Barge plotted against them.
AnnieAD
November 15th, 2012
5:08 am
Any competent educational leader would be able to access the DoE consultants and read and understand the compliance requirements. it does not matter whether you are a charter, on-line, or regular school system, to receive federal funding you must first meet the reporting deadlines.
If the GCA administration had done their job, the funds would be received. Any competent instructional leader would know how to develop an IEP and follow it through for a SPED child.
The report on GAC reflects incompetence in the leadership and oversight.
Pride and Joy
November 15th, 2012
6:42 am
lahopital you asked “Wonder why they don’t like this one?”
Because it cut into their money and power.
It’s all about money and power.
The teachers and children and parents and — education — don’t matter.
It’s all about money and power and those at the “top” of GA education don’t want to lose it.
Pride and Joy
November 15th, 2012
6:45 am
What REALLY matters is exactly what Amber said about her child:
“As the parent of a special needs child at GCA, I can say that he has gotten better service through GCA than he ever did in the local public schools.”
Amber needed and wanted something better for he child. Our state has a mandate to educate every child and the state wasn’t doing its job.
It doesn’t matter if a school is cyber, bricks and mortar, charter or traditional, WE have to educate the children.
mountain man
November 15th, 2012
7:30 am
And this is the STATE BOE that all of you opponents of the charter amendment 1 said was a valid alternative to the amendment? Looks like the State BOE and John Barge are just as bad as local BOE’s in terms of TRYING to make charters fail by strangling them with a lack of basic resources that are give to every other school system.
mountain man
November 15th, 2012
7:33 am
As far a Special Education students: it there ar Federal Laws and State laws concerning what services MUST be given to these students (along with jugements backing them up) then the funds for complying with these laws should come from Washington and the State Capitol respectively. Otherwise these are just unfunded mandates on the local systems. If you want something, you had dang better be ready to pay for it.
OMYGOODNESS
November 15th, 2012
7:48 am
I am truly investigating to sign my special needs child up for online classes, since the regular school system just doesn’t seem to understand or get the educational needs – thank goodness for this opp for my child – I wish the regular school system would get it –
I kept questioning why out of 365 homes in my neighborhool over 30% home school – I get it now with the concerns my daughter has and I – THANK YOU for being available GCA – truly concerned parent – when will the school system wake up and take care of the problem!!!!!!! – signed beyond frustrated parent – glad to have a work around wish all my school taxes went to this program
jd
November 15th, 2012
7:56 am
Here we go … Charter schools are treated unfairly by the State Board of Education — so, the legislature will amend the enabling legislation, and provide that the unelected commission is the only governance authority the for-profit charters will report to. The Yazoo land fraud is going to look like a kindergarten deal when the dust settles from this fraud.
CB
November 15th, 2012
8:24 am
Out of fairness to the school, the children it serves and the satisfied parents of those children, I would like to see this on the front page. The article yesterday was misleading at best and created much unnecessary anxiety to many.
SJS
November 15th, 2012
8:28 am
I just love the way people who are not familiar with GCA has decided that it is not a good school for whatever reason. My child has an IEP, put in place by GCA because my child’s previous brick and mortar school wouldn’t do it…amazing that all of the people who know the lingo and the law, also know how dance around it and make things look good on paper while the child suffers. GCA took my concerns seriously, while traditional public school only made things worse. Is it right, when a child has a 504plan to give extra time for school work, their PE and recess is taken away for them to keep working? Is it okay for a child to be sent to time out class because he can’t sit still in PE?! Traditional public schools did not have my child’t best interest in mind. I was in the counselor’s office Daily, in tears, trying to work with them to figure out what to do to make sure my child didn’t fall through the cracks. Around 12,000 kids are enrolled in GCA this year…this speaks Volumes! And with 1200 of those being SPED, with only 10% of the parents having any sort of complaints, GCA is better than any public school I have heard of. I also find it interesting that local schools aren’t slammed like this when they are atrocious when it comes to SPED, And regular ed students. If parents are happy with their children’s progress, and children are Finally Making progress, who is anyone else to speak badly about it? That’s the beauty of Amendment 1…We will have more choices. There are too many people who want more for their children, but have to work, or can’t afford a private school. They don’t want their children around drugs and violence…well now they will soon have a Choice. Most people Against Amendment 1 only see money…I see a brighter future for my child, one with choices. If I get to choose where I shop, what bank I use, what hospital I use, then why shouldn’t I get to choose what school my child attends? We should not have to wait 5-10 years for someone to figure out the problems with traditional public schools and fix them. My child will graduate in 6 years…we don’t have time.
Ron F.
November 15th, 2012
9:41 am
Sounds to me like this is more of a problem of communication and the doggone AYP mess. I know Lynda White well, and I’d say there are few who know special education any better than she does. If she says they are compliant, then I’d bet the farm they are.
I also see this as a challenge for the state board to understand how to effectively rate a statewide online campus. It’s a relatively new field, and serving students with special needs is a challenge in any type of school. At this point, I’d say we need to wait and see what the real information is before we judge compliance.
Maureen Downey
November 15th, 2012
9:47 am
@To all, I have to counter those who contend that there were political motivations to the state board taking issue with Georgia Cyber’s performance at its meeting this week. Some folks here say the state board is reacting because of the success of the charter school amendment.
But one of the chief critics of GCA’s performance at the meeting this week was state board chair Brian Burdette, a champion of charter schools and the amendment.
At the meeting, Burdette said: “We have very serious concerns. They have been warned several times that they are out of compliance. They have been given second chance after second chance.”
Some GCA parents have faulted those comments and others at the meeting as political in nature, reflecting an anti-charter bias.
But, in fact, Burdette is among the board’s staunchest supporter of charters, taking the unusual step of publicly criticizing State School Superintendent John Barge for his opposition to the charter school amendment at a meeting in August. Burdette also allowed the former head of the charter school commission to stand up at the meeting and blast Barge — these are not the actions of a guy opposed to charter schools.
I believe that GCA clearly works for many families, as indicated by the supportive parent comments here. It is one of the challenges of writing about schools. In every school, we can find many parents who feel that their children are being well served.
But the evaluation system of a school’s effectiveness is driven by numbers — and I do think the numbers for special education students as reflected by CRCT and EOCT scores are disconcerting. And it is not just charters that are judged by data — every school in the state is measured by the same yardstick.
Maureen
Ron F.
November 15th, 2012
10:00 am
Maureen: one issue with GCA might be that they are getting a lot of their special education students from schools where the parents have had bad experiences, judging from the comments of some here. I wonder if the pass/fail rate on tests is similar to what these special ed. students had at their brick and mortar school. While they may be compliant with the laws for services given, the test scores may still be bad if a large percentage of their kids were already failing in the original schools.
Carlos
November 15th, 2012
10:19 am
Looks like the DOE needs an enema.
Rose Bellefleur
November 15th, 2012
10:48 am
Hello I am a student journalist at Georgia State University that is doing an enterprise story on GCA and would like to interview a parent on GCA and how the school has bettered their life. Email me at rbellefleur1@student.gsu.edu if interested.
Matt Arkin
November 15th, 2012
11:19 am
Maureen, we can agree that numbers are one good way to evaluate a school’s effectiveness is driven by the numbers, and the CRCT and EOCT test scores that you referenced show that GCA Special Education students outperformed Special Education students across Georgia on that yardstick. If you find these students’ scores at GCA disconcerting, I’d be interested to hear your opinion on the State’s performance as a whole. While GCA Special Education students are doing well compared to their peers in other public schools, all of us schools in Georgia have a lot of work to keep improving the performance of all of our students.
Matt Arkin
GCA Head of School
Ray
November 15th, 2012
12:24 pm
I see here from some posts that Georgia Cyber Academy might have as many as 12,000 students state-wide, is that correct? And yesterday I think Maureen said that GCA receives between $4,800 and $5,800 per student from the state of Georgia, and it sounded like it was probably closer to the higher number. So by my math, that means Georgia Cyber Academy, part of the k12 out of state corporation, is receiving around $70 million in Georgia taxpayer funds. Is that correct? $70 million per year? Good lord.
Maureen Downey
November 15th, 2012
12:41 pm
@Matt, I did a quick look at CRCT scores for students with disabilities in Cobb, Gwinnett and Fulton.
While the failure rates are similar on the EOCT scores for Math I, there is a performance gap in math in third and 8th grades for students with disabilities between GCA and those system averages:
GCA: Third grade math: 52 percent failed to meet standards; 8th grade math 58 percent; EOCT, Math I, 70 percent
Cobb: Third grade math: 37 percent failed to meet standards;8th grade math 26 percent; EOCT, Math I, 63 percent
Gwinnett: Third grade math: 28 percent failed to meet standards; 8th grade math 39 percent, EOCT, Math I, 68 percent
Fulton: Third grade math: 32 percent failed to meet standards; 8th grade math 37 percent; EOCT, Math I, 72 percent.
Under your charter contract, what are the performance levels for special needs students? I understand that GCA might outperform some systems in how its special ed students perform, but did the charter include a pledge to outperform the state?
Maureen
Tami
November 15th, 2012
1:50 pm
My son was MOLESTED by another student while in the Brick and Mortar school system…was it reported…yes…did anything happen…NO..They actually put them together in the same class, sitting next to each other…The endless bullying by the teacher (2nd grade), not allowing him to participate in activities, not following his IEP…By the way, he has a 128 overall IQ…The fact that a 5th grader brought in crushed candy to sell as a drug…AND this is supposedly one of the best counties for education…No way…Since removing him from the B&M and placing him in GCA, he has blossomed, is looking forward to high school and college..He has received every opportunity with GCA to be the young man that he should be…I am a PROUD GCA Mom…
living in an outdated ed system
November 15th, 2012
1:59 pm
@Bootney, herein lies the flaw in your argument. You say you don’t believe in “one size fits all,” yet that’s exactly what you’re advocating when you oppose the creation of public charter schools….
Can’t have it both ways….
Angie
November 15th, 2012
2:04 pm
Question: If GCA receives that amount, then by all means fill me in on how much the B&M schools get per child. Then we will check and see how those monies are actually spent. I know that in small town/county schools that there is much cover up on this. Truth be known, I am sure there are 2 sets of books for most B&M schools, you have to be just as sneaky as them and talk to just the right people to get the right information. Sorry people, the money and power still hold a major issue with schools.
Angie
November 15th, 2012
2:14 pm
We left the B&M school for different reasons not just academics. In our B&N school you could only go as fast as the slowest student in the class. This didnt/doesnt challenge any child to their potential, GCA does this. I would like to see the results from the RYAP(Reaching Your Academic Potential) that 8th graders have to take, the results from the B&M and GCA/Charter Schools
middle school teacher
March 22nd, 2010
8:02 pm
It is not making innovative new learning environments readily available for those students who have not fared well in traditional public schools.
Can you offer any proof that the students who now attend these charter schools did not “fare” well in traditional schools? Did you mean academically or in some other way?
Just my guess, but I believe many who leave public schools do so for other reasons than just academics
SJS
November 15th, 2012
2:27 pm
http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/071312_az_school_spending/az-ranks-near-bottom-per-pupil-spending-grade-schools/
Found this report that lists what each state spent per student for public elementary school education in 2010…Georgia was paying over $9000 per child to traditional public schools, with a national average of $10,615. So if this still holds true, estimating of course, then $4700 per child for GCA is not much…where’s the extra money going?
Ray
November 15th, 2012
3:29 pm
There are so many posters on here talking about “B&M” schools. At first I didn’t know what “B&M” meant — it took a minute to figure out they meant brick and mortar. So many people quickly and easily using this anti-”B&M” lingo smells like a lot of people who have drunk the “cyber academy!” kool-aid, and picked up on the talking points. “Old, tired, ‘brick and mortar’ schools are just so old fashioned and so yesterday, don’t you know, exciting new on-line ‘cyber academies’ are the wave of the future!!
I suppose its easier to sell the cyber academy line to a bunch of home schooling whackos.
Matt Arkin
November 15th, 2012
3:30 pm
Maureen,
GCA enrolls students from 156 counties across the state. Our charter contract does not have any specific academic goals for students with disabilities. The academic goals we have in our charter compare our overall students’ performance to the state average, as we draw our students from across the state.
Matt Arkin
GCA Head of School
creative mom
November 15th, 2012
4:08 pm
Wow Ray, I’ve never homeschooled a day in my life. My student in GCA is with a public charter school and he has real teachers that teach classes everyday. So, I have no idea what you are talking about with, home schooling wackos and this is the wave of the future. Normal brick and mortar didn’t work for us. So there is no need to put those of us that have chosen to do something different down.
Oh wait, you must have learned how to do that in your traditional, old fashioned brick school house. Cause, I know when my son was in kindergarten, my son learning the word M….F… Came from a little boy named Corey. I remember it perfectly,b/c apparently at recess Corey said this word over and over again, and my son felt like he needed to come home and say it over and over. He also learned how to roll a joint in 3rd grade, and in 4th grade was not only bullied by his peers, but also his teachers. So yeah, some overhauling needs to be done in the school systems. I was also in a public school all my life, up until I dropped out in 1992 when they hung metal detectors on the high school doors, and started patting us kids down and going through our bags. You know, that really didn’t bother me, it was the gang of guys that grabbed my private parts and asked me what I was going to do about it, that broke the camels back. So yes, If I can save my child from that, your darn right I am. It’s a shame and a disgrace that everyone is so against something they’ve never experienced. Not everyone is so lucky to live in districts with awesome schools. So your going to condemn me for wanting more for my child. Hahaha.. you go right ahead. I’m making sure that my child is socialized and getting a good education. I don’t have to worry about him learning how to put down others like you have. I’m not saying he want ever learn this, just not when his brain is to immature to understand how to combat it.
Ray
November 15th, 2012
4:27 pm
Creative mom, you made my point.
Ole Guy
November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm
Is this spec ed stuff for real? Just exactly how many, within this community, are deemed as such simply because, well, it’s easier; more convenient for educational leadership…than to (here we go again) set the standards for academic excellence, INSIST upon their attainment, and that’s all there is to say.
No, it’s easier to raise the bar, allow any-and-all to pass, and, in the meantime, bask in the additional demands for educational funding under the cloak of…special education.
SJS
November 15th, 2012
4:47 pm
Well, if people like Ray are the ones who have children in the B&M school nowadays, I certainly don’t want my children around them! Homeschool Wackos, really? Is this what you teach your children? Another good reason we left…
Ray
November 15th, 2012
5:20 pm
Yes, SJS, really.
I teach my kids that there are all kinds of people in the world, and school is a place to start learning how to deal with them. You can’t get that sitting in front of a computer.
SJS
November 15th, 2012
5:39 pm
So, Ray, really you teach them to disrespect people they don’t know and call them names…they will excel, as they will learn from a master. Again, another good reason to have other options.
Josie
November 15th, 2012
6:56 pm
Let me assure you that “homeschool wackos” are adamantly opposed to cyber schools as well. Many traditional homeschool groups will not allow members who use cyber schools. The two concepts are very different in both intent and practice.
FYI
November 15th, 2012
9:05 pm
@ Ole Guy. You really need to get up to speed about today’s education.
“Special Education” is a euphemism for the education of children with medically documented disabilities, that may be mental (IQ of 80 or a psychological disturbance such as autism) or physical (wheelchair-bound). ALL of these children must by law be taught together in one classroom with “regular” children who do not have these disabilities.
ParentsAttorney
November 15th, 2012
10:23 pm
I learned quite a bit speaking with, and representing, parents of children with special needs at GCA. Some called me for one reason, and once I started looking into their cases, realized that their concerns were nothing compared to the HUGE violations of federal law that I discovered. Completely ignoring IEPs (yet still taking the extra $$ they get for serving children with special needs). Fighting to not have to provide related services that were more than warranted under the law. Mischaracterizing classes. Failing to re-evaluate. Failing to provide progress reports or do any kind of progress monitoring as required by law. And when the parents approached the school about,it, they were ignored, spoken to condescendingly, belittled. I had never seen ANYTHING like this self righteous attitude at ANY brick and mortar, down to them telling bald faced lies in response to parent complaints to the Georgia DOE. I additionally heard about questionable grading practices, teacher providing test answers to children, dropping grades when the children did poorly. You can’t trust these people. They need to have their charter revoked to make room for a new, more ethical cyber school to take its place.
Sandy Springs parent
November 16th, 2012
4:07 am
The real truth needs to be known about GCA, it is a major gift of taxpayer dollars to the home schooling crowd. It is clearly not open to all parents. It is not open to parents who must work outside the home. The model basically requires the parent to. Become the teacher. I enrolled my 4th grader in it. I naively though that she would have a real time teacher on the other side of the connection ( I anticipated the proprietary software they bragged about in their sales pitches would be some
Thing like meeting 123) where students and teachers could do problems interactively on a screen like a white board and different kids questions could be answered in real time. Then I am told the day before classes start that is not the case. That they were not interactively and not in real time, the lesson. She also informed us that she had 48 hours to respond to a question, via e-mail. So what was I to do with a frustratrated kid with add and it was not my intention to homeschool. Then the kicker, he tells me she me she had been home schooling her own two children. With this she could do that and get paid a teachers salary. But she had expected a normal 35 of so students that a you mind in elementary school. They had assigned her 150+ students. She told me that she was only required to meet with each student via phone for about 10 minutes every two weeks. After the second week I withdrew my daughter from this fraud. Oh yes, you had to pay extra for language, and arts crafts. You were also expected to Pay extra and sign you child up fore at least one of two gymnastics or soccer classes to meet the PE requirements. Whey did not want to give me money back after 2 days for the Spanish and art extr classes A had paid for. I only got it bak back after I told them I would just contact Brian Williams with NBC NEWS , I TOLD THEM I WENT to college with him they could google it. They sent my money back the next day.
They are a big rip off, only loved my home schoolers that get what they hd to pay for pay for prior for free.
mountain man
November 16th, 2012
7:45 am
“ALL of these children must by law be taught together in one classroom with “regular” children who do not have these disabilities.”
One of the biggest mistakes they ever made.
Janet Mendez
November 16th, 2012
2:21 pm
My son is a GCA student…He was passed to 3rd grade even though he was on a 1st grade reading level thanks to “no child left behind”. Even though he attended a small school and I volunteered I was never may aware of any educational options.Thank goodness I discovered GCA!!! Within 10 weeks he was up 2 grade levels in reading and he continues to success.My child,my tax dollars,MY CHOICE.
Thankful to GCA
November 16th, 2012
2:31 pm
I am so thankful to have a choice for my children. Not all of us can say that we live in a school district that can meet our children’s needs (educational, social-emotional, etc). I commend the work done by Matt Arkin and his staff. They’ve reached amazing results even when faced by obstacles listed above in the article (via the DOE).
My child has grown in so many ways. GCA curriculum has sparked so many interests in what I hope to be a life-long learner and a productive member of our society.
Proud GCA Parent
November 16th, 2012
2:32 pm
I am a proud parent of two GCA students and I can’t tell you how much we love this school. We previously attended a big-name private school in the ATL area which was not attending to the educational needs of my children. We switched to GCA two years ago and have seen significant advancements in both children. GCA administrators, staff and teachers are extremely attentive and want our children to succeed. It’s absolutely amazing! I do not understand why someone would want to block our school choice and speak so poorly about a wonderful school. Brick-and-mortar schools are not for everyone. GCA is on top of everything and I am a proud supporter.
B. Jacobs
November 16th, 2012
2:32 pm
I do not have a traditional “special needs” child. However, my child is an accelerated learner. He was so bored in his brick and mortar elementary school that he begged to be homeschooled. He timed himself at school and he independently read over 90 minutes a day. He said he did this while waiting on the other students to finish their work. We chose GCA and we have had a wonderful experience. GCA allows him to learn at his pace and to go more in-depth into the topics in which he has a higher interest. We love what this public charter school has to offer.
GCA Parent
November 16th, 2012
2:34 pm
While my child is not special needs she is a GCA student. The school has gone ABOVE and BEYOND my expectations for my daughters education. This is our second year at GCA. A few years ago we realized the public school we are zoned for is not an option. After that we began wasting thousands of dollars on a private school that did not live up to my expectations for education or environment. GCA is the decision we made. I have been nothing but impressed by the classes, material, and helpfulness of the teachers.
Athena
November 16th, 2012
2:38 pm
@All,
GCA is my only choose for my two kids. We are a military family who moved here at the beginning of the school year. After going to the our local public school and looking at the curriculum I found out that my son is significantly ahead of his peers. They would of been teaching him things he had learned the year prior in California. So they suggested that we move him to 3rd grade if I was concerned about him getting bored or frustrated. When I asked if they had programs for gifted kids and the gal laughed at me asking me if I knew that our country was in a financial crisis. She informed me that all of those programs had been cut. That the next option for my son was to put him in the local Charter school. So I attempted to do so but they were already full for the year. They told me about GCA. After alot of research I found out that this was the best option for my children. They would have all the support of public school with all the benefits of homeschooling. We have been doing this for 4 months and I am in love with the program. They are there anytime I need them. The curriculum is child based and he can work at his own pace. Without GCA both of my boys would struggle with school because of the fact that school districts are do not have standard curriculum. I hope that nothing happens to GCA because without them alot of kids that do not meet the cookie cutter outline that Public schools rely on, they will fall through the cracks.
Proud GCA Parent
November 16th, 2012
2:39 pm
To the Sandy Springs Parent ~ We have attended GCA for two years and have never had fees for extras. No charge for PE, language or art so I don’t know how long ago you tried to attend. I just think some people are going to choose to be miserable in life and play the “poor me” role all the time. The teachers are amazing, the software and live classes are very interactive and my children love them. I am not the teacher at all. I am just part of the home support staff and I do work full time from home.Both children are now exceeding in every subject under the CRCT state testing. Can’t say enough good things about GCA!
GCA Mom
November 16th, 2012
2:47 pm
So many people have an opinion about GCA. Some of these people have never taken the time to actually learn about the school. My daughter is enrolled in Kindergarten at GCA. This school has been a blessing to our family. I taught in the public school system for almost ten years. I have been there, done that. I was a good teacher (still am), with good test scores, my kids respected me, etc…. I would NEVER put my child in a brick and mortar public school. It is not because I don’t want her to learn to deal with different types of people. It is because I don’t think she should have to be in that environment to meet different types of people. We are in several different homeschool groups where she meets people of different ages, races, and religious beliefs. Unfortunately schools are not like they were when I was in school. The parents are less involved and kids think they are entitled and should be able to do and say whatever they want. That is not how I am raising my child and I do not want her to learn those behaviors. I want to teach her the values and morals that a lot of people in our society do not have anymore. I don’t see why people are getting so upset over GCA. If you don’t like, don’t enroll your child in that school. I really don’t see how anyone could read the description and talk with an enrollment advisor and not understand that the parent is the learning coach. They were very upfront about all of that. Everything they told me about the school is 100% accurate. The teachers and the administration have been very open, honest, and helpful. We are very thankful for GCA. We will continue to support our school and our teachers. Again, if you are not a fan of online schools, don’t enroll your child there, but also don’t make it a mission to make it to where my child can’t go there. If I don’t like your child’s school, I will just stay away. I will not try to make it my life mission to get your child’s school to close just because I don’t understand or agree with it.
Kat
November 16th, 2012
2:49 pm
Sandy Springs parent,
I do not know what school you were involved with, but I highly doubt it was GCA.
You do not pay for any GCA classes, they are state-funded. You also do not have to “pay extra” for arts or language classes. PE does not have to be enrollment in gymnastics lessons or team sports, it can be as simple as the whole family taking a brisk walk for 30 minutes, or working out and doing jumping jacks, as long as it is timed and supervised.
I have five students enrolled in GCA in my home. They do have classes in real time, and interact both with their teachers and other students. They solve math problems together on the white board, they spell words and edit writing samples. They even recite the Pledge of Allegiance together.
If for some reason they cannot attend the live classes, the sessions are recorded, and they can view them later at a time that works for us. I have phone numbers for all of our teachers, and I have met several of them in person. They have never been anything but professional and helpful to us.
I am sorry you seem to have had a negative experience with an online school, but nothing you describe bears any resemblance to what I have seen over the past two school years with GCA.
I was one of “those wacky homeschoolers” when I was a poor unsocialized kid. However, I did manage to learn to communicate respectfully with others, even when we disagree about things. I home schooled my kids for several years, until it got to the point where keeping up with five different grade levels worth of courses was too much for my organizational skills. I then did what every good parent does: I decided to re-evaluate our learning situation, and find something that would meet our needs. We considered public school, private school (not practical, since we still needed to be able to eat as well as educate our children), and virtual public school. We figured it could not hurt to try virtual school, and if it didn’t work for us we would re-evaluate again, and try something else. As it happens, virtual school did help. As for those who claim it’s not “really” home schooling: when you are sitting on my couch drilling my child on spelling words, and helping with math practice, you may tell me whether or not I home school.
This article seems to indicate GCA is working to improve their Special Education performance, and hopefully this will be resolved for the benefit of all the families involved.
Angie
November 16th, 2012
3:25 pm
I am a GCA parent and many children need a different education that brick and mortar schools. My daughter thrives with GCA, and would be bored in traditional school, aside from the bullying and social garbage that goes on in high school
mom of special needs son
November 16th, 2012
4:04 pm
GCA has been a blessing for our family! It took 2 years, 5 suspensions, and many sleepless nights to get my son identified as having a disability in a brick and mortar setting. GCA not only anticipates his every need, but responds appropriately and swiftly to his needs. Instead of forcing my child to fit into a mold or a class that he would best be served, GCA has created a customized educational experience that suits him. No longer are we forced to pick a one size fits all class that might help him, but instead GCA gives him what he needs and it’s not dependent on what might or might not be offered in a B&M setting. Love GCA, teachers and administration!!!
Sandra Figueiredo
November 16th, 2012
4:38 pm
Cyber academy saved my son and allows him to keep going to school even with the heath issue he has.
When he was going to public “normal” schools he was getting sick all the time, bullied and he wanted to quit school, now he has plans to go to college!
I do not understand why people do not stop attacking this type of school and way of teaching when the “normal” system has proven and keeps proving that is not working in several levels: academically, emotionally, financially…….
I’m very thankful that Georgia Cyber Academy exists and will keep my kids on it for as long as we are allowed. They have provided us with understanding and support for the last 2 years (what we never got in brick and mortar school). Thank you GCA!
Juanita Mask
November 16th, 2012
4:49 pm
I can’t speak for all students, but I can certainly stick up for GCA on the behalf of our daughter. She was diagnosed in 2nd grade with a weakness in phonological processing in light of intelligence. In everyday language, that’s dyslexia, characterized by great difficulties with reading, writing, and spelling. She continued to go to brick-and-mortar school, with me tutoring her with the Barton Reading and Spelling System through third grade. For fifth, I really wanted to concentrate on strengthening her weaknesses and be able to tutor her when her brain wasn’t end-of-the-day exhausted. My intention was to do this for just one year. When I questioned the lead special education teacher at her elementary school regarding her opinion, she made the comment, “You can’t beat one-on-one.” With near-dread, we embarked on fourth grade with Georgia Cyber Academy (then Georgia Virtual Academy). Well to make a long story short, our daughter has absolutely thrived, resulting in this being our fifth year with GCA. She’s in eighth grade now and works nearly totally independently, except for her grammar lessons. The last two years, she received a PERFECT score on the Reading section of the CRCT (6th and 7th grades). Last year, she exceeded on all sections of the CRCT. Her teachers have been very responsive to any special education related issues, including approving speech therapy and occupational therapy for her writing issues. The school has even adopted the Barton Reading and Writing System for learning coaches to use with struggling readers, and for that they have my high respect. For many students, they offer the best case education scenario. It’s possible that they have struggled to keep up with the astounding growth in the school, and bear in mind that possibly the majority of students are in GCA because they didn’t thrive in public brick-and-mortar school to begin with. Let’s give GCA our support and encouragement. After all, they dared to think outside the box, and we greatly benefit as a result!
Proud Parent of GCA and a disabled child
November 16th, 2012
8:57 pm
I give a big thumbs up for GCA. B/M schools told me that my child would never learn anything and that I needed to accept that. GCA showed us that this was not true since I pulled him out of the bm school he has learned to read,write and do math just like any other child did just at a slower pace. At the bm school all they did was babysit him they never tried to teach him anything. I want my child to learn not just be look after I don’t need a babysitter but he does need an education and GCA gives him that. If the bm schools would do their jobs then there wouldn’t be a need for homeschooling or any other type of schooling. Just because these kids have special needs doesn’t give anyone a right to say that they can’t learn or to harm them in any way, which is what’s happens to most of these children. My child was abused at school and on the bus and the school thinks this is ok and never does anything about it. Now that I teach him at home he isn’t be abused or he doesn’t have to miss school because he has to go to so many dr appt he still get his education and he is a lot healthier now that he isn’t around the other kids passing germs around. GCA has been a Blessing to us is so many ways just wished I ad done this earlier before he had to go through the abuse.
Juanita Mask
November 16th, 2012
9:58 pm
MODERATOR, PLEASE MAKE THESE CORRECTIONS: I meant “for fourth,” not “for fifth,” if you will please correct my comment. Also, could you please change my name to “Juanita M.” and don’t include my full name? Thanks! One more thing: it should consistently read “Barton Reading and Spelling System,” not “Reading and Writing,” as I mistyped the second time I mentioned it. Thanks!
Angie
November 16th, 2012
10:25 pm
This is our 1st year with GCA. I cant say that I have any complaints with them. Yes, my son falls under the SPED. For us it is the best decision we have made for our son. As for money, we didnt have to pay anything for his PE. We as a family play ball(all sorts) together,and othe outdoor activies and that is counted towards the PE time. And before any of you now-it-alls say anything, YES…it is monitored by adults. His Father is military and PT is done also. As for Foriegn Language, that is part of his schooling as an elective as with B&M schools. With me homeschooling my neice also(3rd grade) her art is an elective also. It is like them being in a B&M classroom same as your kid. My kids dont recieve any answers from their teachers. As their LC(Learning Coach) I get them so I can grade there off line work.
NEWS FLASH!!!!!…..The kids actually DO have books to work from. For years our B&M school didnt have enough books, they had to share with another student or do with out, and still didnt as of last year. Believe me the BOE knew me by first name by the time our oldest was out of middle school(when the problems began).
Lets picture a spider, you have the body and only 4 legs. The body is the office area(big open area, middle school one one side & HS on the other) and the legs house the classrooms. One hallway for middle school students(5-8 grade) and the other 3 hallways for the highschool students. This is our B&M middle & HS. Students are aways crossing paths during school . Can someone say “safety issues”. Thats just one issue with this school.
Understand this, all schools make changes every year, some for the better some for the worse. Depends on how you see it. How things were last year are not sounding like anything that is going on this year with GCA. No school is perfect, but I cant find on here(AJC) anywhere, where the B&M schools are being scrutinized for anything.
Coosabandmom
November 17th, 2012
5:49 pm
@Sandy Springs parent– I don’t know which school you put your child in, but it wasn’t GCA. There is no”sales pitch”, nor are there any charges. This is after all a public school. My child, for the first time in years, has actual books!!! How can a child do homework with no books? Or study for a test? Or better yet, how am I supposed to know how he is doing if he never has homework because there aren’t enough books? I spent 2 years fighting with his middle school after I saw my honor roll child drop to near failing, begging for help. I did everything the teachers asked of me, but they did nothing I asked of them. My son has ADHD, abdominal migraines and extreme testing anxiety. He was on VyVanse, Zoloft and Zantac twice a day. The counselor wouldn’t even return my calls. Then I heard about GCA. Now I can see just how far behind he really is and why he was failing. And his homeroom teacher at GCA has been instrumental in getting him the evaluations that he needs. I watch him everyday watching a live teacher, being called on to answer questions, and I have yet to see a teaching session that does not give the children a chance to ask questions. I don’t know if there’s a time limit on return emails, but every time he has sent one he has been answered in a very reasonable time. No matter how silly it is. Even just asking if the teacher will play a certain song. And with GCA having such a large percentage of special education students, you know that they aren’t going to be the perfect fit for everybody. If they aren’t the right fit for your child, it’s a simple solution. Withdraw them and put them somewhere that is.
GIna Bryan
November 28th, 2012
1:43 pm
My daughter began 8th grade in the public school system, having attended public schools since 1st grade. She had a 540 plan beginning last December that addressed her need for accomodations related to chronic migraines, generalized anxiety disorder and major depression. The counselor she had in the public school system last year was very helpful, but after her retirement at the end of the year, we were unfortunately assigned a counselor who was new to the school. I removed my daughter from the public school 1 month after school began because the new counselor was incompetent. My daughter had also experienced bullying at the public school, which was never dealt with by the administration despite being reported by my daughter and me.
My daughter began receiving her education through GCA, and I am extremely happy with the level of support we have received. I have encountered nothing but positive, helpful, intelligent staff and faculty at GCA. My daughter is quite simply a different child. No longer is she stressed out about going to school and feeling unsafe and being foreced to battle an anxiety-provoking environment consisting of teachers having to spend so much of their time attempting to gain control of their often overcrowded, rowdy classrooms. Now my daughter can focus her energy and attention on learning. Her physical and emotional health has greatly improved as well as a result of being taking out of the school she previously attended. I am so thankful GCA is an option for us.