8:03 p.m. Still five people on line to ask questions in a session that began 6:20 p.m.
Parent. (Final question at 8:09 p.m.) Have you told the truth and the whole truth?
Davis: I try to tell the truth. When it gets to personnel matters, I am at a disadvantage as I can’t share that with you.
Student: Why now?
Davis: Already answered that. (Which he had, about a dozen times. Just not sure folks bought his answer.)
Student: Kids aren’t graduating. It is not the fault of the administrators. Kids aren’t doing the work.
Parent: Davis was correct in his opening statement. “We are not getting satisfaction from the meeting but also not getting clarity.” Why did this have to be so rushed, so cloak and dagger with no discussion with administrators involved?
Davis: I had a sense of urgency. I wanted to change leadership before new principal got here.
Student: Why remove administrators now as many have only been in jobs for one or two years so the school’s historic problems cannot be blamed on them?
Davis: “I looked back five years and did not see the performance this school should have”. Administrators individually are fine. As a team, they weren’t succeeding. “It’s not a sin to be in the middle of the pack. But I don’t want that to be the standard for North Atlanta High School. With the kind of commitment, with the resources that are available in this community, this school should be at the head of the pack.”
Davis says APS has done value-added computations on how many months of gains students register in each high school. At North Atlanta, students gain 10 months in nine months of school. But at Carver, students gain 17 months in that time, “almost twice,” said Davis.
Parent: Can you bring back those people so we can say thank you and goodbye? (That question earned a standing ovation.)
Davis: Yes, he can make that opportunity possible.
Student: I have a project here but now it been put on hold because shift in administrators. Could you not have kept the prior team?
Davis: Essentially, he said “no.” But he applauded students and their interest and their questions.
Parent: If other schools are failing, do you plan on similar actions there.
Davis: “Each school is different. I do not have similar plans for all those high schools.”
Parent: You have four very important positions to fill. What makes you think someone who can fit that bill come to place where they can subject to bloodless Coup d’état at any time? (Applause)
Davis: “They will come here to work under exciting new leaders. I don’t have any doubts that we will be able to attract all the administrators.”
Parent: Do you think it is not too late to start over and do it right?
Davis: I feel very strongly about performance. That performance will, in fact, be changed and motivated by a group of new leaders. I think we have chosen an excellent one and believe he will choose an excellent team. In retrospect, we could have done a lot better on the process.
Bedlam at 6:58. Deposed principal Mark MyGrant has just entered packed gym. He gets a standing ovation.
Davis is clearly unhappy with MyGrant’s dramatic entrance and the warm welcome from a raucous crowd.
“We have had our Kabuki theater moment. Let her ask her question,” he says, gesturing to the speaker at microphone. There are 25 people behind her in line to ask questions. MyGrant leaves the gym.
“This should be our premier school in this city,” he said, in response to her question on why he felt that North Atlanta High was in need of urgent change in its leadership and why he yanked the four leaders of the Small Learning Communities.
Parent: “Please consider that these are communities, these schools.” Why were the beloved administrators treated with such disrespect? “If you have a decision like this coming, approach the community. Say, ‘Here is a problem. Let’s solve it together.’ Parent says Davis also tone deaf to community when he pulled teachers from Garden Hills in leveling last year. Parent came before him about that last year as well.
Davis: “I listened to you last year about leveling.” Changed leveling process. Still have it, but it is now two-step process: Talk about qualitative issues in that school before we move teachers. “Every decision you learn from.”
Parent: We can handle change. But change is very different than ambushing a community of parent and students. Will you reconsider if open records requests reveal why this was done?
Davis: Decision made on performance data and data will not change.
Student: Was racism a factor at all in these decisions?
Davis: “I have no knowledge of any charges or allegations of racism at this school…My decisions were made on performance, where we are and where we should be.”
Student: How does transferring the four administrators to other schools solve the problem if the administrators are to blame for North Atlanta’s poor performance?
Davis: Odd response to this: Something about the difference in individual sport performance vs. team sports.
Student: Similar question.
Davis:. Similar answer: He wanted the new principal to pick his entire new team so Dr. Taylor would not face any obstacles in turning school around.
Parent: Complained that Davis talking too slow to delay questions. Said he lacked any credibility. She left to applause from students.
Student: Why weren’t parents notified of changes?
Davis: “That is not going to a happen. There will never be a time, either with lead time or without lead time, when I seek permission from parents.”
Student: How will the new administration be able to succeed with hostility they will face from students. “Other than the counseling you mentioned.” (In earlier question on how students, coming back tomorrow from a break, will cope, Davis said counselors will be on hand.)
Student: But was school improving under the ousted administrators? What were the trends?
Davis: I don’t have that data. (Crowd unhappy with that response.) I believe progress has been made over time, but has enough progress been made? Where are we now? What have we done over the last five years?
Parent: Why not at the beginning of the school year or over the summer? Why the emergency nature of the removals?
Davis: “Urgency is related to the appearance of the new principal. Again, the circumstances did exist, but we did not have new leadership coming.”
A 2005 graduate of NAHS: You knew this summer that school was in the needs improvement category this summer. “My concern is decision to take these administrators out almost halfway during the semester was done prematurely.” And replacements are only temporary. It is not the normal process to yank staff, put in replacements for a short time and then hire other people.
Davis: People are going to describe what the normal process is. I don’t want to take a year for that normal process. That is why I took actions I did. He acknowledged that the actions were not usual, but were warranted because of the special circumstances. “It is not normal, but I hope it is brief.”
Parent: Son dreading school tomorrow, coming back from break, with administrators gone.
Davis: We will have counselors available at school Wednesday.
Parent: People loyal to us, retired from us. How can you justify this?
Davis: They were transferred under standard protocol. Ran Fortune 1000 company. That is how we do it.
Parent: These were decent people.
Davis: “There is no debate about the decency of these people. If I didn’t think they were quality people, they would have not been reassigned. ”
Parent: Why take away web site access to PTSA?
Davis: Web site access was changed across system. (Guffaws)
6:23: Erroll Davis begins with his opening statements: “We can potentially have an unsatisfactory discussion for a number of reasons.” He says he can’t discuss specific personnel issues. “I am not going to do that.”
He will not say why principal Mark MyGrant was summarily dismissed Friday. He thanked the administrators transferred to new assignments.
“We did use our standard protocol for sensitive announcements but no one was escorted out of this building,” he said. (I assume the standard protocol refers to the presence of school officers as well as the demand that the four turn over their APS computers. I asked Davis after the event about why APS took the computers from the four staffers who were reassigned. He said it was standard industry protocol in sensitive job changes to confiscate the computers to protect data as employees can get upset and do damage or compromise data. He said the computers had been returned to the four.)
“My view is this school needs to be a lot more than it is presently. It has fantastic potential, fabulous support.”
“We are moving into a $100 million facility next year. I want our performance as a system and as a school to be on that level.”
He is now outlining the under performance of North Atlanta. “Performance data for this schools says it has to improve and improve quickly.”
“I am not here to bash this school. This school has great potential.”
“From 2007 to 2011, this school did not make AYP. Now, it is an NI-4 school, which means under some level of state monitoring and reporting.”
Now, school has to meet higher standards. “If I had a team that did not make the lower standards, why should I have confidence that it will be able to make the higher standards?”
“Graduation rate is higher than system average. It is at 62 percent, seventh from the bottom at APS. This is not what I want for APS. This is not where we need to be. It means we are failing four out of every 10 of our children.”
“I don’t doubt that most parents in this room have children who are going to graduate. Through the eyes of your children where you get lots of the school experiences, you are hearing that they are having a great experience. ”
“But four out every 10 kids who walk through this door are not graduating.”
“This high school should be No. 1 under every factor. I have other concerns. I look at performance and what we were achieving and what we are achieving here. I have come to conclude with dynamic new principal coming, I want him to have every opportunity to succeed. ”
He says that he felt new principal could not succeed with the old administration in place. “So, I removed them and put them in different assignments.” He stressed that they did not lose status, pay or stature.
5:16: Parents arriving in red T-shirts proclaiming “APS Parent Satisfaction. O%”
Place is filling up fast.
5:21: About 100 North Atlanta High School students outside with signs and chants “We want answers” and “Bring them back.”
Lots of TV reporters. Lots of mulling parents. Erroll Davis arrives.
5:30: Talked to some students outside. They want to know what I think about why this happened. I tell them I don’t know, but I can’t understand why this was handled so badly by APS. They want to know about the comparison between what happened at NAHS and what didn’t happen at Jackson High. New principal appointed there as well, but no wholesale banishment of the administrative staff to jobs elsewhere. Why?
5:52: Talked to parents from Grady and Jackson. They are here to see why policies differ high school to high school.
5:53: TV crews are being confined to small area next to me roped off with red cords. (I am sitting in third row. It pays to come at 3:50 p.m. for a 6 p.m. meeting. Some unhappiness among TV cameramen being crammed in small area. (Hey, Steve Alford, they need more space.)
5:58. All 400 seats are taken. Parents are now filling bleachers in the gym. Lots of security on hand. Stopping folks from walking near the podium.
5:59. School board chair Reuben R. McDaniel is here. North Atlanta rep Nancy Meister is also here. So is Cecily Harsch-Kinnane. Meister was about to sit in the reserved row, but was told it was for the transition team being brought to NAHS from the Central office. (The entire board may be here, but can’t walk around too easily to check.) The students with signs are now filling the other half of the gym. Probably nearly 800 people here or more. (
By the way, this diverse NAHS student body looks like an ad for Benetton. Young, attractive, engaged and united. Nice to see.
Among the signs: “It’s a say day at NAHS” and “New Day, No Way,” referring to Davis’ description of the removal of the old staff as a “new day.”
6:07: Where is Erroll Davis? He is in the building but not yet on the stage. This place has the feel of a Hawks game. Lots of excitement, noise and energy. And it’s a gym.
6:13: Still no Erroll Davis. I know he is here. Either he is prepping or waiting for the crowd to quiet down.
I am at the North Atlanta High School gym for the 6 p.m. meeting with APS school chief Erroll B. Davis. (I am an hour early but I was worried about traffic and getting a seat.) Fulton County Commissioner Robb Pitts just arrived. School board member Emmett Johnson is now here.
6:18: Last sound check. One man in the crowd just yelled, “It’s 6:20 already.” It is actually 6:18.
6:19. Erroll Davis is about to speak. A hush is falling over the crowd, even the students. The board members are being introduced. Tepid response to board Chair McDaniel – who is cast as a factor in what happened at the school in some of the scenarios making the rounds — but warm and boisterous response to Meister’s name. Nice response as well for Harsch-Kinnane, Johnson and Brenda J. Muhammad. Crowd has filled
6:23: Davis: “We can potentially have an unsatisfactory discussion for a number of reasons. He says he can’t discuss specific personnel issues and “I am not going to do that.”
He will not say why principal Mark MyGrant was summarily dismissed Friday. He thanked the administrators transferred to new assignments.
“We did use our standard protocol for sensitive announcements..but no one was escorted out of this building,” he said. I assume the standard protocol refers to the presence of school officers.
My view is this school needs to be a lot more than it is presetly, It as fantastic potential, fablous support. We are moving into a $100 million facility next year, I want our performance as a system and a school to be on that level,
He is now outlining the under performance of North Atlanta. Performance data for this schools says it has to improve and improve quickly.
I am not here to bash this school. This school has great potential
From 2007 to 2011, this school did not make AYP. Now, it is an NI-4 school, which means under some level of state monitoring and reporting.
Now, school has to meet higher standards. If I had a team that did not meet lower standards, why should I have confidence that it will meet the higher standards?
Graduation rate is higher than system average. It is at 62 percent, seventh from the bottom at APS. This is not what I want for APS. This is not where we need to be. It means we are failing four out of every 10 of our children.
I don’t doubt that most parents in this room have children who are going to graduate. Through the eyes of your children where you get lots of the school experiences, you are hearing that they are having a great experience.
But four out every 10 kids who walk through this door are not graduating.
This high school should be No. 1 under every factor. I have other concerns. I look at performance and what we were achieving and what we are achieving here. I have come to conclude with dynamic new principal coming, I want him to have every opportunity to succeed.
He says that he felt new principal could not succeed with the old administration in place. “So, I removed them and put them in different assignments.” He stressed that they did not lose status, pay or stature.
Several student journalists here — which I love to see — and TV camera crews setting up. There are about 30 parents and staff. More talking outside. I did a count and there are 400 seats set up for parents. When a TV camera man pulled one away to put down his bags, he was told that all seats must remain.
I will blog from the event as long as my signal holds, but, in the meantime, here is a statement released this afternoon by the North Atlanta High PTSA:
In advance of the meeting tonight with APS Superintendent Davis and in response to hundreds of questions received from parents, the Executive Board of the North Atlanta PTSA has issued the following statement:
The PTSA had no knowledge of the APS personnel changes in advance of Friday’s dismissals.
We are appalled and disappointed with the unprofessional and disrespectful manner in which our administrators were treated. We expect APS officials to model respectful treatment of employees, students and parents, and we do not believe this standard was upheld.
Although we realize that change is inevitable with any transition, we believe the removal of this administrative team at this time is not in the best interest of our students and will adversely impact the students in the coming weeks and months.
The manner in which these actions occurred has cast a negative light on our school and district.
We believe the students, parents, faculty and our new principal, Dr. Taylor, deserve the institutional knowledge and stability provided by our former administrative team during this time of transition. We respectfully request the immediate reinstatement of our administrative staff.
We welcome our new principal Dr. Taylor and look forward to meeting him in the coming weeks and are committed to working with him to continue building excellence at North Atlanta High School.
This statement has been prepared in the spirit of the National PTSA Standards, which are included below.
–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog
160 comments Add your comment
bootney farnsworth
October 9th, 2012
9:06 pm
and why was Erroll the gov’s choice?
does what he’s told without question. and is establishing a history of systemic fiscal mismanagement under his watch
Involved Parent
October 9th, 2012
9:14 pm
In the end it all comes down to this, for the board, the current administration at North Atlanta was clearly not black enough.
Private school
October 9th, 2012
9:24 pm
You pay and they are accountable to you. Most of the time the parents are achievers who are concerned about what their kids are being taught because they are invested. The government does little well. Why people turn their children over to them every day amazes me.
Atlanta Native
October 9th, 2012
9:27 pm
Why do so many ultra-wealthy Buckhead families send their kids to NAHS? When you have no money, you have no choices. When you have lots of money, you have lots of choices. Why send your kids to public school, only to be chronically dissatisfied and frustrated with it? It baffles me to see these affluent parents, who have endless resources at their disposal, shaking their fists and protesting at a public school. Bizarre.
Private Citizen
October 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
If the whole world was run this way, there would be no food in the grocery stores, bridges would fall off their piers, there would be no supply chain of auto parts to keep the vehicles going, the trains would not run at all, much less on time, and media would be reduced to sterile announcements from authority telling their scripted news although it would be futile as there would be no consistent electric service, either. If the whole world was run this way, you would be reduced to standing in your doorway with the door falling off the hinges wondering where your next meal was going to come from.
The boss justifies this treatment because don’t you worry, there are lots of hungry souls lined up needing jobs who will be glad to work in these conditions. Well, isn’t that a fine thing, Atlanta, Georgia. Aren’t you just an inspiration and shining star for business everywhere. Don’t you just set an international example to lead the way and show the world the road to prosperity.
” the hard truths behind the numbers”
1. APS families and school children and the rest of Georgia and the United States do not have universal healthcare for every citizen and are the only country in the modern world that does not. How do think that impacts school children when it comes to eyeglasses and well being? Atlanta is the city that gobbled up all the state funds for this type of care for children and outside of the metroplex, it is really pronounced that families do not have health care and children in need consider the school nurse to be their family doctor where a bandaid or baggie of ice if supposed to serve as medical care. Or a letter from the nurse saying the student needs eyeglasses. The same letter, year after year. Obama and Margaret Thatcher and the Pope and Ben Bernanke can all beat their chests and rend their garments demanding improved performance from schools, but not having health care is a serious weight upon these “expectations.”
2. I have seen a high school disassembled and put back together under the NCLB nuclear option for not meeting improvement. The majority of the staff was removed and replaced. Guess what happened the next year? The exact same scores. Guess what happened to the new hand-picked staff? They were all punished and summoned to the office to be put on personal improvement plans. It’s a new day, folks, a NEW DAY (pardon me). Meanwhile, just as the students have been required to MARCH on the hour for their whole lives, uprooted and told what to do, the students had to endure their loss of community and adjust to the new staff. After all, it has been done before, is that it? I visited this school before the disassembly of staff and I saw a groovy nicely run place with teens walking around with a sense of person, an orderly pleasant environment. I called what happened there “Gut the Fish.” That’s what I call it.
3. The keen thing about this application of accountability is that it leaves out the elementary and middle schools that formed these students before they show up at the school getting the heavy accountability treatment. If a student is not literate by the time they leave elementary school, then making the middle school account seems to ignore this. If a student shows up at high school and can not do science, math, and writing, punishing the high school is a niche fix-it approach and does not address the formation of the students during their prior eight years of instruction / formation. I’m just trying to be realistic. Sending the helicopter gunship the blow up the gas station on the corner is not going to fix a neighborhood.
4. Why is it that some first world countries outside the United States have sober excellent social services but in the United States you can not have basic public administration without it turning into a politically driven looney bin where personal beliefs and antics take over and perpetuate and serve to keep everyone preoccupied with the political caste and the activities of the political establishment. There is a term for this, it is called “attention suck.” In a more formal sense, using economics, the terms is “externality,” to create cost and turbulence. For example, if I repave your street, an externality is the noise of the machinery, the dust, and the road being shut down. It seems there is little regard for externalities. The remedy is “Oh yes… now I recall… I could have gutted the fish differently.”
5. The APS manager reminds me of Mr. Romney. He is effective at taking things apart.
Citizens, in the United States we have an immaturity. We pay a great price in inability to provide services.
Atlanta
October 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
Why is this Principal allowed to stay at Washington High School, one of the worst performing high schools in the state?
Dr. Scavella was run out of Macon and a school in Florida.
“This past June, Sam Scavella resigned as principal at Northeast High after leading the school since 2006.
Central office administrators said he resigned to take another job in Atlanta. Later, they revealed that his departure also came after an investigation into his affair with a graduation coach at the school. Scavella was engaged to another woman at the time.
The graduation coach claimed that after breaking off the relationship with Scavella in early 2009, she received a poor job-performance evaluation. In previous years, during the relationship, she said she had received good reviews, according to school records.
She contended that Scavella, who earned $116,000 a year at Northeast, retaliated and discriminated against her and was guilty of sexual harassment. The school system’s investigation didn’t find evidence to support those claims, but it did require the two not to have contact with each other.
While he was principal of Blanche Ely High School in Florida in 2004-2005, his performance records from the Broward County school system show that he was deemed ineffective as a leader, in terms of “human resources” and “management processes” and for his overall performance review.
Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2010/02/01/1005507/bibb-hiring-school-leaders-whove.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.macon.com/2010/02/01/1005507/bibb-hiring-school-leaders-whove.html
Prof
October 9th, 2012
9:40 pm
When Erroll Davis was Chancellor, we USG faculty saw pretty soon that he was following the same M.O. that he had as CEO of a huge corporation, and didn’t seem to realize that the academic culture was very different from the business culture. He was used to top-down governance that simply told employees what to do; and at first he tried to run the USG as if it were a corporate business.
The first year over the summer he and a Regents committee changed the system’s entire Core Curriculum that all beginning students must take without any faculty input. Enormous push back by all the USG faculty that ultimately resulted in a second revised Core Curriculum that was created over many months by several faculty committees. Quite different from his.
The next year he tried to order that all faculty must have criminal background checks, newly hired or Regents professors. AAUP got involved in that one.
Same here. Davis is still acting like a big business CEO. Now it’s the parents of the schoolchildren who are pushing back. Their children are not a product, and their schools are not a corporation with administrators treated like disposable employees who can be marched out in the “perp’s walk.”
But one question I still have: WHY dispose of Principal MyGrant in that manner (who had the presence of mind to slip out the back door on his own)? He had just been brought out of retirement by Davis a few months earlier and was going back in 3 weeks. What did MyGrant know–and still know?
buckheadbetty
October 9th, 2012
9:40 pm
The frightening lack of grammatical precision in these posts, from this E. Rivers alum, is quite disheartening – although the students are significantly better than the adults. But Nancy Meister, who sold Sarah Smith down the river so she could sell condos on Lenox Road, and Errol Davis, who can’t understand why parents don’t just roll over and play dead because he’s obviously smarter than they are, are the problem. Vote her out, and fire him.
Kris
October 9th, 2012
9:41 pm
bootney farnsworth “and why was Erroll the gov’s choice?”
You hit the nail on the head. Also he was dirty with no human emotion,compassion or feeling for his employes..
The practice of ambushing personnel late Friday afternoon runs ramped in the university system.
A call to come to HR (no compassion() then public safety escorts you off the campus.
Annie
October 9th, 2012
9:44 pm
AYP is now obsolete, Georgia has a new accountability index. North Atlanta in not an NI-4 school now in that the old NCLB categories are gone. Even if new leadership is needed, the actions of Mr. Davis demonstrate a severe lack of judgement and leadership. It is probably because of his lack of experience in school reform and managing change. There are a few very gifted superintendents in Georgia with special skills who have ties to Atlanta who could build consensus and move a community forward. The APS Board should consider this.
Prof
October 9th, 2012
9:45 pm
@ bootney, 9:06 pm. The gossip I heard from several sources was that Erroll was a business buddy of Sonny Purdue’s. Remember that he didn’t come in under Gov. Deal.
Janice
October 9th, 2012
9:45 pm
A school is not a Fortune 500 company. This whole thing is morally offensive – dictatorial school chief and no way of holding him accountable no matter how many people are furious with him.
Dr. John Trotter
October 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
Erroll Davis is obviously a corporate step-and-fetch-it guy. He apparently does what the powers-who-be tell him to do. I don’t see a lot of integrity here, but integrity was never rewarded in the corporate culture.
Kris
October 9th, 2012
9:52 pm
Prof Purdue got the law changed so the chancellor was hired by the Governor (tern used loosely) and was there at his./her/it’s whim. Where as before the chancellor was hired by the Board of Regents.
Sonny like shady deal looks out for himself hires his family and cronies…Go fishing…
Kris
October 9th, 2012
9:54 pm
Sorry should be. @ Prof. Purdue got the law changed so the chancellor was hired by the Governor (tern used loosely) and was there at his./her/it’s whim. Where as before the chancellor was hired by the Board of Regents.
Sonny like shady deal looks out for himself hires his family and cronies…Go fishing…
JAR
October 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
You people making the racist comments and stupid rationalizations about NAHS’s low scores are victims of your own lack of intelligence. You are ignorant to imply that white students from the north don’t contribute to low test scores. Sorry, but your racist ancestors’ legacy is that for years you have been miseducated. Your minds are enslaved to the myth that you are somehow intellectually superior. Maybe your getting a dose of Davis the Dictator is just what you deserve.!! Oh, don’t forget that your beloved Governor put him there. Was Deal at the meeting??
NAHS c/o 04
October 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
“From 2007 to 2011, this school did not make AYP. Now, it is an NI-4 school, which means under some level of state monitoring and reporting.””
This is blatantly untrue. Georgia recieved a waiver from NCLB, so AYP means absolutely nothing. The state has its own evaluation system of identifying “priority” schools. North Atlanta High is not on the list. The list is here: http://www.11alive.com/assetpool/documents/120314091156_Priority%20Schools%2003%2013%2012.pdf
HELLO
October 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Politics, and people say public school education is equal. If I am correct he said he holds N. Atlanta to a higher standard than other schools in the area. My question is why arent all schools equal as far as education? Why 52% percent of the students receive “free lunch”? When the average household income in most of the zip codes is well over $100k a year. People with “real money” in Buckhead don’t send their kids to public schools anymore because they are smart enough to know that the system is flawed !
Private Citizen
October 9th, 2012
10:04 pm
JAR, You need to see the YouTube video of Morgan Freeman talking to Mike Wallace, “On Racism.”
Private Citizen
October 9th, 2012
10:12 pm
Specifically, Freeman has an opinion about how to get rid of racism. A more accurate search term is “Morgan Freeman On Black History Month.”
Parent
October 9th, 2012
10:14 pm
I applaud Davis’ decision. To every disgruntled parent at north Atlanta, you have your heads in the sand if think these administrators were doing an excellent job. They did not believe our kids were capable of high achievement which became self-fulfilling. Good riddance.
Rick L in ATL
October 9th, 2012
10:23 pm
Erroll, I championed you early and often, but if you keep trying to ram things down parents’ throats, CEO-style, after all we’ve already suffered through with APS, you’re going to end up with a lot of Eff You Erroll Charter Schools after the Nov. amendment passes. Because we’re starting to realize, with finality, that the only way this job is gonna get done better is if we wrest control of the process away from you and the educrats you’re leading. It really is a shame.
LEMAC
October 9th, 2012
10:32 pm
It has been very illuminating to follow tonight’s comments from a combination made up primarily of liberal bed wetters who simply blame all problems on the WHITE BUSINESS COMMUNITY or from academic types who resent the fact that any one would have the timmerity of testing academic profomance or having expectations of achieving exacting standards by teachers and/or administrators. My expectation of the November 6 vote tally from these respondants will be about 75% for Obama.
The criticism of Davis is coming from this peanut gallery and we owe him thanks for his stepping into this pile of ____ called the APS!
Rick L in ATL
October 9th, 2012
10:42 pm
@JAR the test scores, broken out by race, are what they are. Racism’s got nothing to do with it. One thing you need to realize about Obama’s post-racial America (and yes, I say that tongue in cheek because I’m afraid any subtlety is lost on you) is that nobody is going to be cowed by your bluster. If we want to talk about the iron-clad correlation between low-SES single-mom black households AND free/reduced price lunches AND dismal test scores, we’ll just talk about it in plain English. Your attempts to strong-arm us are tiresome and impotent, because everybody now sees that cries of racism in this context are just a diversion; more excuse-making.
Nothing the schools can do will improve the test scores of low-SES black and Hispanic students so long as those students’ families (read: their single moms) refuse to take education seriously. Black political and community leaders have utterly failed to incentivize educational achievement (or stigmatize poor performance) in their communities. It is no more racist to point out these statistical facts than it is to describe water as wet.
On the continuum of black ideology that runs from Al Sharpton to Bill Cosby, you have gone all Sharpton. That makes you the problem, dude. It’s not Whitey’s fault; it’s not Bush’s fault. Time for you to learn that.
Current NAHS Student
October 9th, 2012
10:52 pm
Yet again Erroll B. Davis disappoints. I spoke personally with Reuben McDaniel, and he failed to give me any real answers. Regardless, if North Atlanta is not achieving where it needs to, devoted employees of APS should not be treated in such a manner. Davis even went on to say that he had no knowledge of racist allegations which I find very hard to believe. It seems he cares very little about the North cluster of APS as such extreme measures are not being taken at any other APS high schools. To help us students with our anxiety over this issue, he has offered counseling services…As if that will really solve the problem here.
East Cobb Resident
October 9th, 2012
11:01 pm
Oh man, this is funny to watch. Sorry, I should be more sympathetic. Oh, APS always good for a knee slapper. Ha!
Bowmom
October 9th, 2012
11:10 pm
The APS Board of Education is a joke.
Please EVERYONE vote “YES” for House Resolution 1162 on your November 6 ballot! Hold APS accountable!!! Take all of the power out of thier hands and put it back into ours, where it belongs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYapImz–g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
rbh
October 9th, 2012
11:13 pm
Thanks for the hard work, Maureen.
Bowmom
October 9th, 2012
11:22 pm
I’m just curious as to where Nancy Meister is in all of this given the fact that she and Mark MyGrant have officially announced that, upon his retirement, they are going into the real estate business together as PARTNERS…meaning both names on one sign, listings together, etc. This whole thing is a crock.
NA mom
October 9th, 2012
11:22 pm
Sandy Springs Parent,
Were you the drunk lady that showed up on the question line tonight rambling incoherently?
Point/Counterpoint
October 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
@Rick L in Atlanta, you don’t live in the single moms homes, you assume a lot and lump them all in together. Should the rest of us that don’t know you assume that your home life is like Honey Boo Boo’s?
Ed Johnson
October 9th, 2012
11:26 pm
The APS Board of Education is a joke.
Please, EVERYONE vote “NO” for House Resolution 1162 on your November 6 ballot!
Vote “NO” to preserve your being able to hold APS accountable!!!
Keep all of the power out of the hands of privateers of public education and keep it in your own hands, where it belongs.
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000109398
Bowmom
October 9th, 2012
11:28 pm
@Ed Johnson
A “YES” vote will do just that, not a “no” one. Your comment is highly misleading.
Ed Johnson
October 9th, 2012
11:32 pm
@Bowmon
A “NO” vote will do just that, not a “yes” one. Your comment is highly misleading.
Bowmom
October 9th, 2012
11:42 pm
@Ed Johnson
Lol. You’ve got to be kidding, obviously, or just very misinformed. I’m not going down this road with you. I would just encourage everyone to research HR 1162 through You Tube, Google, or any other source and make an educated choice.
I’m going to vote “YES” to keep the ultimate power away from APS and in the voter’s hands.
Kris
October 10th, 2012
12:05 am
A vote for this shady deal will mean more people like Davis running your schools with the non caring compassion Error showed tonight. With little or none caring about the students or teacher welfare. The bottom line is the bottom line, Education be dammed make money. You will see many many Friday firings with little or no reason.
Vote No on this scam.
Southside Parent
October 10th, 2012
12:16 am
Bowmom: Ed Johnson’s point is that the state chartered schools won’t be accountable to you at all. They will only be accountable to an appointed agency of the governor. So if you don’t like the accountability you hear now, this would be worse.
Former APS student
October 10th, 2012
12:28 am
This school hasn’t been making adequate progress on 5 years. Scores are low yes I said lower than other high schools in the immediate area and the graduAtion rates are horrific. As far as I’m concern north atlant is performing well below it’s potential. Parents should be raising hell when see the numbers instead of raising hell over how a bunch of underperforming admimistrators was let go! Parents and students need to know the history of north Atlanta and the EXCELLENT institutions it was created form-North Fulton and Northside high school. North A Tanya is a shell of what those were. North Atlanta can do better!
Mays ,Douglass Jackson Washington and south Atlanta needs to be next . Clean the deadweight out!!!! Our children are depending on you, Mr. Davis!
NA mom
October 10th, 2012
12:37 am
Okay, why did Mygrant show up, walk halfway into the gym, wave a couple of times and then walk out?
How immature and bizarre.
North ATL mom
October 10th, 2012
12:51 am
Errol Davis should resign. Even if he had legitimate reasons for removing these administrators (and I have seen no evidence should such reasons exist), how he handled the removal was disgraceful and unbecoming of a superintendent of a large-city school system. I suspect personal grievances were at play here.
CharterStarter, Too
October 10th, 2012
1:02 am
Charter school boards control the schools. These boards are made up of local parents, teachers, and community members – and they are accountable to their stakeholders. The state would only authorize on appeal and oversee achievement, legal and regulatory compliance, and fiscal stewardship.
The Hammer
October 10th, 2012
4:09 am
If anyone reads through this, here are the statistics for scores on the GHSGT for North Atlanta High School, broken out by various demographics:
http://reportcard2011.gaosa.org/(S(oyjsb2qzs05vexnp2qmygems))/k12/reports.aspX?ID=761:192&TestKey=HS&TestType=qcc
jw
October 10th, 2012
4:35 am
@Atlanta Native….
Why don’t all those with the means to do so send their kids to private schools?
Either….
They are deeper in debt than they appear.
Or…
Their sweet angel didn’t make the cut for private school admission (or got asked to leave).
Or….
The precious child WHINED and REFUSED and just HAD to be with their friends at the public school…and the parental units caved.
APS Fam
October 10th, 2012
6:18 am
Or…
The parents thought it was a great savings of $60,000 a year (3 children) that could be used to take their children on educational vacations to France, Spain, etc. and cater their educational needs to each child individually with outside activities/classes simply using APS as a supplement.
The Hammer
October 10th, 2012
7:29 am
[J]w, it very well could be that there is some large number of wealthy people who, for whatever reason, believe in the public school system, and see good results. Look at the test score statistics for the White students at North Atlanta High School. They perform quite well, even when compared to the best schools of East Cobb. The parents very well may be of the opinion that “diversity” is important, and private school is a way to avoid the real world. Not that I agree with these opinions, nor is this some large majority of the wealthier White residents in the North Atlanta school zone, but I guarantee you they are there.
Bill Mackinnon
October 10th, 2012
7:29 am
This was a poorly delivered “check the box” event. Dr Davis offered little information and was set to have an “unsatisfactory discussion” and that is what it was. There are questions he needed to answer: What is his vision for North Atlanta High School? (and how is Dr. Taylor uniquely qualified to achieve that vision? he gave a partial answer but no details) Why, if North Atlanta’s performance issues, were known in the Spring, did he ask Mark Mygrant to stay until the new principal cam on board? What provisions were made to facilitate the dual transition-elimination of the current administration and interim plan, and how will Dr. Taylor be introduced to the North Atlanta High School community? Dr. Davis had a golden opportunity to turn this community into a supportive asset to the transition to a new administration, and he blew it. He should fire his communication coach for dereliction of duty
Maureen Downey
October 10th, 2012
7:49 am
@Bill, Not sure who should be fired but would argue that the failure of APS to foresee the tidal wave of anger that this move — which I think now even Erroll Davis would admit was poorly handled — reflects a deep disconnect. Also, talked after the meeting for nearly two hours with folks and have to ask: With other schools with higher failure rates and other more pressing problems, why start with North Atlanta? He never addressed the issue of sending eight administrators, including the head of gifted and talented programs, which, I understand, were just revamped, to a single high school.
Maureen
Maureen Downey
October 10th, 2012
7:53 am
@The Hammer, The North Atlanta students who spoke last night, and they were black and white, were smart, articulate and passionate. I have no doubt that kids are getting a great education there. The school sends many kids to top colleges around the country.
The contention by Davis that student success is not universal at NAHS is true for every high school. Still don’t see how these four administrators are to blame. Nor do I think a new principal, no matter how talented, can change this situation on his own. It is a systematic problem that will take more than just high school reform.
Under performance of high school kids reflects a lot of things, including k-8 education.
Entitlement Society
October 10th, 2012
7:56 am
@Does Anyone Really Care – Right on! I’ve been saying the same thing about North Atlanta being a failing school. No wonder Davis went in to clean house. MyGrant had 5 years to clean it up and failed. Really, a Buckhead school, where only 6 out of 10 students even graduate? That’s not even looking at the pathetic test scores. How can this school sit in the middle of Buckhead with loads of involved parents and have such abysmal performance year after year? That’s why my kids will never set foot inside. Now MyGrant is free to go be real estate buddies with Nancy Meister and peddle condos along Lenox Rd where she sold the Sarah Smith District down the river.
Dana F. Blankenhorn
October 10th, 2012
8:06 am
There were three main schools at NAHS. The IB program, which is the best college prep in the region. The arts program, which lost its status as a magnet and has been drifting. And the school of “would you like fries with that,” where most NAHS kids have gone.
APS starved the last school, and now Davis blames the administrators for that failure. The result is you lose the only thing about the school that was any good and have to start a new school from scratch.
No one asked what the new school would be. How would its curriculum be different? What resources would it have the old school didn’t? Instead, everyone’s obsessed with who is or isn’t running the thing. Wrong question.