The promise — and peril — of online learning

computer (Medium)I listened to a panel this morning on “The Promise and Impact of Broadband Education.” The online panel discussed the role of high-speed Internet – including wireless broadband – on schools and looked at an initiative at Kramer Middle School, a public school in Washington, D.C.

The panelists were Kwame Simmons, principal at Kramer Middle School, and David Teeter, director of policy at the 3,800-member International Association for K-12 Online learning.

The session demonstrated one of the ongoing problems of online education. Both panelists encountered technical issues, which delayed the program. The moderator — referencing the “peril and the promise” of technology — had to stall for time, asking one panelist questions, while the other tried for several minutes to join the event. There were lots of “Are you there?”

Among the points made by panelists:

–30 states have virtual school/online initiatives.

–There is a trend to blend digital content and student management systems with classroom instruction. “In terms of what schools are doing, blended learning models have huge implications,” said Teeter. “No. 1, we are seeing increasing access to digital learning devices, which are enabling any-time, anywhere access of students, and for that matter, teachers to content and research with which to learn.”

–Limits still exist on the expansion of broadband education: They include bans on teachers teaching across state lines. Accreditation is often based on seat time rather than outcomes. There is a limited supply of high quality online learning systems and digital content. There is limited digital literacy among teacher and students.

–Expect an explosion of digital content in the next 5 to 10 years, including the replacement of traditional textbooks.

— Kramer Middle School principal Kwame Simmons said his school had been identified as persistently low performing. The school is supposed to increase its performance on district testing by 40 percentage points. Now, only 23 percent of the school’s students are proficient in reading, and 22 percent are proficient in math. So, the school is supposed to raise those rates to 63 and 62.

—To improve its outcomes, Kramer Middle School has chosen a blended instruction model, half digital and half face-to-face in the classroom. It will be Washington’s first blended learning school.

–Kramer Middle School piloted blended learning last year, using desktop computers, Smartboards and laptops. The school created an honors online math class using a Johns Hopkins University math program.

–Kramer Middle School will operate with a traditional 90-minute class block, 45 minutes of which will be virtual learning. The teacher will be in the room and able to provide feedback. All courses will have online teaching and learning, using several curricula and technical support providers including the Florida Virtual School, Johns Hopkins, Adaptive Curriculum and TVTextbook.

–Kramer teachers have received professional development to get ready for the change.

After the panel, I read a dozen news stories about the Kramer Middle School plan from Washington area media, including the Washington Post. I thought this Post comment from a District of Columbia Public School teacher was worth noting as it helps provide context to those low scores that the principal cited:

Being very familiar with Kramer and its population, I don’t think it will work. Kramer has some students with severe and unaddressed behavioral problems, a significant group (four classes and 1 Emotionally Disturbed) of Intellectually Challenged students, along with a high percent of special needs students (about 35%) that have been formally identified.

I’m willing to venture 10-15% of unidentified students would also qualify. Too bad the class sizes for these kids were larger than what should have been under DCPS guidelines, Blackmon consent, and the WTU contract. With that said, these kids need individual and human instruction and interaction, not a computer.

–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog

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living in an outdated ed system

August 11th, 2012
11:11 am

@SGaTeechur, I hope you misspelled “teacher” on purpose.

You are very wrong, I’m afraid. You cannot make a statement like that without backing it up with valid evidence. Just because your students are unmotivated now doesn’t mean they would not be motivated by digital learning. I have seen unmotivated kids become motivated with empowered learning, and I have the research to prove it.

Like I sad on these blogs many times, I could probably win a very lucrative bet that most of the posts on this blog come from people over the age of 45 or 50, especially the ones who are opposed to any change in the public education system.

living in an outdated ed system

August 11th, 2012
11:14 am

@Bootney, your comment was so pathetic about online charter schools. If you do not understand why blended learning models are working in the United States, you never will.

All you can think about is 100% online schooling. And that’s sad. Unfortunately, that’s the only way that Public Ed protectionist/lobbyist—oops, I mean “historian,” Diane Ravitch, can think about it too.

I feel sorry for those of you who will only be left behind during this transformational period in public education reform.

bootney farnsworth

August 11th, 2012
1:24 pm

@ outdated

three quick thoughts (can you count that high without your talking points reference sheet?)

1-on behalf of educators everywhere I apologize for your inability to see or comprehend sarcasm when it stares you in the face. we have failed up badly in regard to critical thinking skills
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2-I asked you some very basic questions earlier? are you unwilling or unable to answer?

3-are you an intellectual coward, or just a troll?

funniest part of this is, I was involved in revolutioning distance ed/online before you ever heard of the concept. including hybrid courses. which is the term you’re so desperately flailing for.

thanks for your offer of sympathy, but save it for yourself. while I’m an unemployed educator, my issues are easily solvable with a bit of adjusting and tweaking my skillset. your issues fall more into a Ron White senario. some things can’t be fixed.

living in an outdated ed system

August 11th, 2012
1:40 pm

@Bootney: before I even get to your questions, your comment about talking points is way out of line. When you lecture, give speeches, and work in an area long enough, you don’t need talking points. It’s called selling someone on your point of view. Can you do that? They don’t teach entrepreneurship in public schools, I forgot……

1. Rule #1: never incorporate sarcasm into text or email. It was not meant for that purpose.
2. My research? There is lots – some of it is not publicly available and is proprietary. As an example, in Colorado’s Title I SES, online learning resulted in more than 30% improvement over children who did not use such tools. This was done by an independent research company that submitted their findings to the Colorado Department of Education. Go to the Innosight Institute website and you’ll see tons of examples with proven research showing success of blended learning programs in schools. I am not going to do all the work for you! As an unemployed educator, you should have time to find the research on this!
3. I can’t respond to that without Maureen censoring my post. I won’t say what I want to say because you sound too much like the folks in the hack organizations funded by the NEA. It’s clear that the author of this blog selectively censors posts, because your post should have been removed. At least Ms. Ravitch will sometimes remove posts that are personal attacks.

@Bootney, thanks for admitting you are an unemployed educator. I’m out to save our children’s future, and don’t have time to respond to your rants and misguided thoughts. I have already saved a number of children in this city, and I will keep doing what I’m doing because success should be replicated – EXCEPT it seems in public education!

living in an outdated ed system

August 11th, 2012
1:44 pm

And @Bootney – I don’t have time to go back to every person on this blog and ensure I respond to every attempt they make to beat me down. I know plenty of online educators and have worked with several at FLVS, which, despite the reduced funding by the Florida legislature, has been given far more resources to operate than GVS. I hope the latter gets more community and legislative support!

And your final rant about Waiting for Superman. I actually didn’t like the entire second half of that movie, because it put too much focus on individual people (e.g., Rhee who I don’t like) and specific types of charter schools (I do not like KIPP’s philosophy). However, I am a full supporter of developing new public school options for parents because the system isn’t doing even an adequate job of educating our children.

Another Math Teacher

August 11th, 2012
6:54 pm

Keep in mind, no matter which side of this issue you fall, Chunter is still a troll.

Maureen Downey

August 11th, 2012
7:32 pm

Folks, Stick to the topic. Many posters are tired of every entry turning into an attack on Georgia’s imaginary teacher unions. If you want to pose a pretend world of pretend problems and pretend villains, please go elsewhere. There are enough real problems facing the state of Georgia and the schools without tirades and hyperbole about non-existing ones.
Maureen

Prof

August 11th, 2012
7:37 pm

Unlike Chunter, who piles contempt on Bootney Farnsworth for stating that he’s an unemployed educator, I admire BF for stating this several times running on different blog threads. All I know of BF is what he/she has stated in the earlier blog-thread about the Georgia Perimeter College firings: BF is among the 262 faculty and staff who were suddenly left without a job because the school had a $25 million shortfall and wanted their salaries to help fill the gap.

I’d point out that “educator” can mean “a specialist in the theory and practice of education” as well as “teacher.” And these days, laid-off educators/teachers abound due to budget cutbacks that have nothing to do with the individuals who are suddenly without a job.

This is nothing to be ashamed of.

bootney farnsworth

August 12th, 2012
10:20 am

@ living

I’m STILL waiting for you to provide the research you claim to have so it can be vetted.
until you do, I’m gonna have to assume you are talking out of your bottom for the sake of ..who knows why.

bootney farnsworth

August 12th, 2012
10:24 am

@ living

I’m glad it make you happy I’m out of work.

I feel profoudly sorry for you your life has sunk so low that it does, but you seem someone who could use something-anything to feel good about.

so if my unemployment is a souce of happiness for you, go for it.

bootney farnsworth

August 12th, 2012
11:25 am

@ prof

thank you for the kind words. I am bothered by being unemployed, but not ashamed of it. I provided good service for 20 + years, and I know the quality of the work I did and -unabashedly- of the lives of students I touched.

I was put out due to the criminally irresponsible actions of others, and the USG desire to make it all go away as soon as possible.

that some would choose to try to use my current status to bolster their own points/egos speaks more of them than of me.

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Vicki

August 15th, 2012
11:27 am

How many of you would like the electrician who wires your house, the surgeon who operates on your child, or the person who handles your finances to have gotten all their education and experience online? Their learning based on how to deal with computer generated scenarios and no hands on real life experience. Have of you ever been in a problem solving situation that you solved BECAUSE someone with a certain EXPERIENCE gave you a tip or pointer that they knew from doing it in real life?
I have taught in at-risk for 17 years and if ANYONE needs a personal touch it is those students. They are starving for guidance and someone to care about them ( since their parents don’t) not just a machine to spit out a diploma.