A vile school bus video goes viral and victim may get a well deserved vacation

The video of Greece, N.Y., middle schoolers verbally attacking an elderly bus monitor is disturbing and the language is abhorrent but condemnation of the kids has been instant and universal.  An Internet effort is under way to collect money to send monitor Karen Klein on vacation.

These kids in the video are oafs. I hope their parents aren’t and will make these kids own up to their repulsive behaviors. Do not listen to this video with kids in the room. It is disgusting.

Here is the video:

According to the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle:

Greece police and school officials have questioned some students believed to have taunted and harassed a Greece Central School District bus monitor. A video of an incident, which happened Monday, is making the rounds online. It has gone viral with more than 100,000 hits by Wednesday afternoon.

Greece Police Capt. Steve Chatterton said Greece Central School District officials contacted police Wednesday morning regarding the 10-minute-long video, which contains explicit language and was posted on YouTube. The video shows several middle school students verbally abusing a female bus monitor while riding a school bus.

he school district said the bus monitor is Karen Klein, who has worked for the district for 23 years. She was a bus driver for 20 years and a bus monitor for the past three years. Klein, a grandmother of eight who lives in Greece, said she learned of the video Wednesday morning via Facebook and watched it at the district’s bus garage.

“It was like ‘wow,’” she said. “I can’t believe it happened … It was just plain mean. Nobody should have to put up with that.”

Klein said she didn’t report Monday’s incident to her supervisor because the school year was nearly over. She also said she did not feel threatened and that the kids “weren’t always that bad.”

Klein said she didn’t want the students to face criminal charges, but would like to see them “grounded all summer, or maybe all year.”And, Klein said, she would love an apology.

Klein also said she is hearing impaired and didn’t hear all of the taunting until she watched the video. “I was trying to just ignore them, hoping they would go away and it doesn’t work,” Klein said. “Trust me, they didn’t go away.”

Dozens of people have sent friend requests and notes expressing sympathy and support, she said. She also received several bouquets of flowers from strangers who were moved by the images. District spokeswoman Laurel Heiden said the district has received numerous emails and phone calls from as far as Australia regarding the incident. District officials said they learned of the incident and video Wednesday morning, and that at least two other similar videos were previously posted online.

–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog

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I love teaching. I hate what it is becoming...

June 20th, 2012
8:58 pm

Readers should check out this video too, where a boy back talks the bus driver:

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-799581

Just to really understand what teachers are talking about when they try to explain what we are often up against in terms of student behavior.

love2teach

June 20th, 2012
9:11 pm

Sadly, in many schools this is the norm. I have a friend (who is an excellent classroom teacher w/20+ years of experience) get taunted by her students because of facial hair and willingness to enforce school policy (she was a mean _itch). Yet, those same students refuse to take a test that will determine her evaluation .. not theirs. How is VAM going to truly measure what takes place in a classroom such as this? BTW, the parents mostly support their student.

justbrowsing

June 20th, 2012
9:16 pm

We have rewarded the loser mentality in our students for far too long. This is the result. It happens. The reason the poor lady probably did not report it is because they would have dismissed it and told her to get a thicker skin. We can see teens for what they are in all of their glory- they bully students and adults alike. This is what parents would see in many instances with hidden cameras. Very sad. wow-

justbrowsing

June 20th, 2012
9:19 pm

@love 2 teach- so right- it is often something wrong with the techer when the student does not like them- CRAZY

mountain man

June 20th, 2012
9:27 pm

I am sure the parents of the kids in the video will defend their kids and somehow make it the teachers’ fault.

bigdawg88

June 20th, 2012
9:41 pm

Just sick animals and thugs!! Obviously they don’t have any home training, and their parents are a bunch of lazy, good for nothing slackers who will defend their rotten incorrigible juvenile delinquents. Put them in the scared straight program!

Christine

June 20th, 2012
9:52 pm

Those kids should be punished in a MAJOR way! Not only are they bullies, but they are abusing an elderly person! I’d bring charges against them… immediately. These parents had better step up and punish these losers they are raising!!!! NO RESPECT!

Lee

June 20th, 2012
10:00 pm

The very fact that you have to have an adult ride the bus as a monitor speaks volumes. Just one of the reasons parents with a clue are clamoring for vouchers, charters, hell, ANYTHING to get their child away from this madness.

Deb

June 20th, 2012
10:12 pm

Oh, please let me be their bus monitor! Ignorant little no minds!, How shameful! Parents, step up and punish your idiots for doing this!!

LMAO

June 20th, 2012
10:20 pm

@Lee I hate to disappoint you but the same thing happens at private schools. Some of those kids are far worse. I’ve coached a lot of privately educated kids and they are really cruel. Most feel privileged and talk down to those not like them. I spent a lot of time punishing them for their behavior. Far more than I did with public school kids.

Fled

June 20th, 2012
10:31 pm

Never, never, never, never would I ever be a teacher in the USA again–and this is why.

Give up. Throw in the towel. Flee.

Devil's Advocate

June 20th, 2012
10:47 pm

And somehow the problem with public schools is primarily the government, the administrators, and the teachers collectively. No, the main problem is the bad students and their bad or indifferent parents. With discipline in schools like the old days much of the crap we argue about today wouldn’t be as big an issue. If the vast majority of kids were well-behaved and focused on getting a good education instead of playing the “everyone doesn’t need an education” or “I’m too bored to do well” card that many adults claim in order to save on taxes then things might be better.

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TimeOut

June 20th, 2012
11:32 pm

I went to school in the area of the country thirty years ago. The students behaved this way back then also. Bullying was encouraged in the home. If a student was not ‘cool’ or was different in any way, the other students circled like dogs in a pack, and made that student’s life a living hell. The best one could hope for was to be ignored. We still reward these sociopaths in our society. Their parents are not much different from their students. They just don’t want to get caught by the segment of society that is capable of empathy and values kindness and respect for others. I don’t know if the Rochester, NY area is still like this, but it was when I was a student there. I saw it daily. It is far too common in too much of our society. The Rutgers University incident, the bullying of teachers, of students, of those who have less power or prestige than others, is a cancre on the face of our society. It’s time to seek more effective and lasting treatment. I would prefer incarceration for these little sociopaths.

Bernie

June 21st, 2012
12:17 am

Please! Give me a break about the feigned OUTRAGE!

Am I the only only here who have have seen far worse ACTS, All of the vicious, demeaning, disrespectful language hurled against The President Of The United States Of America in 2012! The Honorable Barack Obama……

Need I remind any of YOU of the language used by Rush Limbough when referring
to a young college student only expressing her first amendment right, to be called a “SLUT” and No one from The Republican Party or Tea Party Leadership condemned of disavowed such actions and comments! Many of its supporters HERE and around the NATION, Cheered proudly with GLEE!

When you have supposedly “Adults” behaving in such a manner, How could you possibly expect for the children to understand how horrible this kind of behavior is?

Fled

June 21st, 2012
12:41 am

@ Bernie: And then you have someone who was an empowered jerk as a student who went on to be a sociopathic carrion capitalist vulture and now wants to be President. Every time I think republicans have scraped the bottom of the barrel, they always find a way to fall even lower.

Dr. Craig Spinks/ Georgians for Educational Excellence

June 21st, 2012
1:15 am

As a retired veteran of GA public schools, I know what has occurred on school buses. My wife and I never let our granddaughter ride a bus to or from her suburban public schools. I spent the first four years of my retirement running Papa’s Taxi Service to her high school every school morning and to her house every afternoon. Ma and Papa appreciate how lucky we were to have had the money and time to protect Our Young Lady from the disrespect and disorder which characterize many school buses. Every dollar in gas, every mile traveled and every hour spent in transit protected her from all-too-numerous feral buslmates. A small price eagerly paid.

Dr. Craig Spinks/ Georgians for Educational Excellence

June 21st, 2012
1:18 am

OOPS: How embarrassing. In the penultimate line of my 1:15 AM post, “buslmates” should read “busmates.”

Bernie

June 21st, 2012
1:29 am

Dr Spinks, you are forgiven! it happens even to the best of us….:)

MUSTANG100

June 21st, 2012
6:00 am

Bernie, you mean the Progressive Socialist steering the US towards Satan’s plan of One World Order? Hussein Obama? Yep, that;s the one.

Jack

June 21st, 2012
6:14 am

Low life like these kids shouldn’t be allowed near a school. That would allow the other kids and teachers to behave like civilized people.

Solutions

June 21st, 2012
6:27 am

This behavior is what you get when you warehouse the stupid and call it education!

Elizabeth

June 21st, 2012
6:36 am

This is reported as if it were an aberration of student behavior. It is not. It is the norm in many schools, public and private. I am one of those teachers who is villified because I have high standard and expect exemplary behavior. I also “wear my pants too high” ( at my natural waist) according to students, talk” funny” ( use a varied vocabulary), “don’t TEACH” ( I make my students read the material instead of reading it to them), and a host of other complaints which results in students deliberately subotaging me on tests by refusing to takethemt or do well. I am treated rudely by students every day. The administration and other teachers have suggested that I should “lighten up”. This is standard behavior– not an aberration.

Two Cents

June 21st, 2012
6:46 am

Some bus drivers should not be driving school buses and should be fired. No excuse for bad behavior by students however. One DeKalb driver is a bully and a liar; complaints about her result in cover up and defending of her.

guest

June 21st, 2012
7:33 am

Go to any Asian country and watch how the younger people there treat older people and you’ll quickly see why the U.S. is falling behind in every meaningful category, including morals.

Dr. Craig Spinks/ Georgians for Educational Excellence

June 21st, 2012
7:44 am

A school bus driver-friend recently retired. He lamented to me, “The kids on my bus are so bad that putting a deputy sheriff on it wouldn’t help.”

NTLB

June 21st, 2012
7:50 am

Most teachers are tough and resilient, most administrators aren’t. Any set of consequences for bad student behavior usually shows up on the teacher’s annual evaluation. Administrators rather deal with disgruntled teachers than with angry parents and their lawyers.

carlosgvv

June 21st, 2012
8:00 am

guest – 7:33

That is exactly correct. And, the chickens will come home to roost in the not too distant future.

MadRiverLibrarian

June 21st, 2012
8:07 am

This video ought to be a wake-up call for us all. These children are despicable. Their parents ought to be very very ashamed. The bus monitor ought to sue them. Obviously, our anti-bullying education efforts are not working. So very sad.

Denise

June 21st, 2012
8:10 am

As I was driving pass a Dekalb County school bus, I saw a student hanging out of the window. I am glad that I was aware of what the student was doing because the student took an apple and threw it at my windshield!!! It was a blessing that I did not loose control of my vehicle. I flagged the bus down and amazingly, the bus driver pulled over. I told him what happened and his response was, “Mam, I can’t do anything with these kids”. I told the adult monitor what happened and the students on the bus pointed to the ‘applethrower’. That afternoon, I called the school and spoke to the principal. She asked whether I was hurt. I told her that I would have been had I not been aware of the student hanging out of the window. I was adament about the student being punished. His punishment—-one day in school suspension!

My husband and I have been blessed to be able to primarily work from home for the past few years. That enabled us to take and pick up our children from school every single day. And yes, we made the sacrifices necessary to send them to private school.

David

June 21st, 2012
8:20 am

You don’t have to go to Asia to see polite school children. just go to any Caribbean Islands and their children will make you ashamed of most American students. I’ve seen them on my cruises. Children who act like these Greece, N.Y., middle schooler’s will become future members of PONY, Prisoners of NEW YORK!

Howard Finkelstein

June 21st, 2012
8:33 am

These public school miscreants will suffer zero consequences as their parents are probably no better than they are.

carlosgvv

June 21st, 2012
8:35 am

It’s nice to imagine school districts hiring retired Marine Corps DI’s as school monitors. Unfortunately, after one of these DI’s roundly chewed out coarse children like these, they would run home in tears and their mommies and daddies would hire trial lawyers who would promptly bankrupt these retired soldiers.

Hey, is this a great country or what!!!!!!!!!!!!

old school

June 21st, 2012
8:35 am

Need to smoke some little britches with a nice wooden paddle. And after their little punk butts get scorched at school, they need another good smokin’ when they get home. If one of those kids were mine, he wouldn’t be sitting down for a week.

Society has gotten wrapped up in teaching self-respect instead of respect for others.

SEE

June 21st, 2012
8:37 am

Bernie,

Funny, I haven’t heard any of the vile language from anybody that I know concerning President Obama, but I heard it about President Bush. So, I know where the abhorrent language comes from…and it ain’t the Republicans!

Teacher

June 21st, 2012
8:43 am

Guest – if the Asian culture is so respectful, why is my daughter going to China on a mission trip to help in orphanages for THEIR children with disabilities??? They are a “throw away” society not always the nuturing society they are portrayed to be…and not all of them are respectful…did you notice the child who was consistently in the picture???

Adults model the behavior, so they don’t believe it’s bad when their kids do it…I can’t get a parent to work with me when their child is struggling or failing – they won’t bring them for help or let them stay for help, won’t email or call me back, but boy let them know that their little precious has misbehaved, and you will get a stealth fighter parent right down your throat…their is minimal support and a lot of “not my child…”

And I don’t care who will disagree with me, but all the songs, movies, games, and reality TV – as well as other TV – model NOTHING but bad behavior…and what kids watch is not monitored – that is so rare now…
Many parents are either afraid to stand up to their children or too busy to, or don’t care…

GET A CLUE – it’s a collective society problem…the money makers are in control and don’t care what they have to do – or who they might hurt – to make more and are kids are their targets – and no it’s not just republicans or tea party people; it’s democrats too – Rush Limbaugh wasn’t the only media personality to call someone a slut…Bill Marr and Sarah Palin I believe – that’s pure democrat!

Unless we approach this as a society, nothing will ever change only get worse…
I’m lucky, I teach in a great school and am typically respected by my students and parents – even though they rarely partner with me in their childs education – but I know our students do the same thing as I hear it in the halls and cafeteria…Ex: a student was taking pictures up girls skirts under the tables in the cafeteria, and his parents asked US if we had taught him it was wrong!!!
We need to decide as a society that this can’t continue and that things need to change – HA HA – I know in a perfect world with imperfect people…It’s only going to get worse.

But I want to know, how many of you “commenters” will actually go out and do something to help change or will just sit behind your computers declaring your outrage, blame the education system, and blame parents…that’s what I thought!

Teacher

June 21st, 2012
8:45 am

I meant – our kids

irked

June 21st, 2012
8:45 am

I had to stop watching. It was so cruel. In reading the comments, I’m just stunned to see that there are some people who continue to blame teachers and the schools for this vile behavior!! What!!?? Open your eyes!!??? Stop listening to people who espouse hatred for public institutions, especially schools. I teach high school. When I see kids displaing this behavior I tell them to STOP. In most cases they do. It’s as if there is no one in their lives who make them mind or stand up to them. Stop blaming the teachers and the schools…look inward…look at yourself and make your children mind!!

irked

June 21st, 2012
8:46 am

displaying…I know how to spell..

RCB

June 21st, 2012
8:50 am

Put those kids AND their sorry parents on a stage in front of the whole school and make them apologize to this lady.

HS Math Teacher

June 21st, 2012
8:59 am

I wish the system had the ability and fortitude to round up these demon-spawned young hooligans and send them to an alternative school. Let these little tenderfoot bada##es start poking fun at REAL tough, troubled kids. Our school may be poor money-wise; however, we don’t have this kind of scum to put up with.

Cassidy

June 21st, 2012
9:05 am

I think this type of behavior is fairly normal on school buses and has been going on for a long time. I am in my thirties and this type of behavior was rampant on my middle to upper middle class school bus back in the eighties/nineties. The kids in my Jr. High were relentless to the bus driver and to other students (especially my best friend and me). We went through this every single day for a year in ninth grade. The ones who bullied me are surprised I won’t accept their friend requests on facebook and think we should all be over it by now. You move on in life and my life has been good, but you never fully get over that kind of stuff. Some other people who were so awful to our bus driver (they said the same type of stuff to her as these kids said to this bus monitor and made her cry on multiple occasions) were laughing about how awful they were on facebook recently. I hope this hits home with them because I still feel bad for her to this day. These kids were punished by our school administration multiple times, but it only made them worse. It is best to avoid these types of kids/people because they have something really wrong with them. If you don’t have any empathy for others to at least stop when they cry then there is something inherently wrong with you. This is why a lot of parents don’t want their kids to ride the school bus. If you are bullied on a bus there is no way to get away from it.

Undisclosed

June 21st, 2012
9:07 am

I have a child who attends Athena Middle School. They will not be attending next year. The students are disrespectful and the behavior of the students on this bus is not acceptable. They should never be able to ride a bus in the district again. They should be expelled. Their whole summer should consist of 8 hours of community service a day including weekends. They should each write essays like a 10 page paper on bullying. Had the behavior happened to the students I am sure the parents would have a different reaction. How would the students enjoy someone talking to their parents or grandparents that way…I dont know what has gotten into these children now a days…it’s nuts. The lack of respect and knowledge for their behavior. They definetely need to be criminally charged.

AlreadySheared

June 21st, 2012
9:12 am

This is a 100% solvable problem. First f-bomb, first poke, and the bus stops and violator is put off.

Of course, this cannot possibly happen because God forbid something bad should happen to the little angel when he has to hoof it on his own.

OK, first violation = violator is reported and put off of the bus for a week. Of course, that can’t happen either because mom & dad both have to be at work early, and the vio-angel would not be able to get to school on his own – depriving him of an education.

So that’s what we are seeing in this video – kids doing what kids do when there no consequences for rude, disprepectful behavior. Scoring points and building their social standing amongst their peers by pushing limits as far as the they can, while staying inside the boundaries of “no consequences”.

Put’em off the bus consistently for bad behavior, and this pathetic, despicable incident never happens. It is, honestly, NOT the kids’ fault. The administrators who fail to set limits and support the bus driver and bus monitor are 100% to blame for this incident.

Michael

June 21st, 2012
9:24 am

I can’t even fathom how horrible a parent you’d have to be to have your child act in this way. I hope there is a way to charge them with a felony so that their college dreams and plans are completely destroyed by their own behavior. That won’t happen though, as I’m sure the parents will circle the wagons to protect their miserable spawn from any consequence. The school district should begin by summarily ending the school careers of the kids. You want to make a statement that this won’t be tolerated? Just throw them out – let their parents pay for a private school, let them drive them back and forth everyday. If you cannot raise decent citizens, you do not get to benefit from public education.

guest

June 21st, 2012
9:31 am

Teacher,

The kids didn’t look asian to me. What does respectful young people have to do with orphanages? Indeed, there are bad apples in every society, but as a whole, it is indisputable that asian kids are more behaved.

mystery poster

June 21st, 2012
9:31 am

I read this same article on a different site. It said that the kids were telling her she was so ugly her kids should kill themselves. Her son had committed suicide 10 years ago. I couldn’t watch the video. I am disgusted but not surprised that students would act this way.

guest

June 21st, 2012
9:36 am

Where is my comment?

guest

June 21st, 2012
9:37 am

Teacher,

They didn’t look asian to me. What does respectful young asians have to with orphanages? Indeed, every country has bad apples, but it is indisputable that asian kids on a whole are more respectable to their elders.

blackhemi

June 21st, 2012
9:39 am

Truly sad, and so many kids say stuff like this today. I know when I was younger, I would have been beat, and that’s what these kids need. I hate today’s politics. Kids know they can say and do what they want. I’ve heard kids threaten to call the cops on their parents if they don’t get what they want.

It’s really a shame.