UPDATE: Folks, I closed comments on this at 10 p.m. Friday. Have a great holiday weekend. Maureen
A common plaint on this blog is that religion has been banished from our public schools. The usual comment is that we have kicked God out of the schools.
But some argue that not all religions are met with hostility in the classroom, only those far outside the mainstream.
That complaint was made this month via an Internet campaign on behalf of a pagan family in Carroll County. Stephanie Turner said her 11-year-old son was singled out and punished after he took off the neopagan holiday of Samhain. Once the boy returned to class, his teacher allegedly questioned him and said, “Paganism is not a religion.” Then, the teacher assigned a class essay on “How Christmas started,” according to the complaint.
(You can read more details on the “Turner Family Support” Facebook page.)
I exchanged e-mails with Turner seeking information about her son’s experience, but then received a call from Selena Fox, founder and executive director of the Lady Liberty League, an organization that advocates for religious freedom for Wiccans, Neopagans and other nature religion practitioners.
A Wisconsin resident, Fox explained to me in our telephone conversation that she was calling on Turner’s behalf to let me know that they were attempting to meet with the school district. In the meantime, websites and pagan organizations that took up the Turner family cause urged people to send e-mails of protest to the Carroll school chief, principal and teacher. And apparently they did.
When I contacted Carroll County two weeks ago, spokeswoman Elena Schulenburg told me: We are currently working with the parent to review this matter. The e-mail was circulated over the weekend ahead of our opportunity to meet with the parent to discuss any concerns. As always, our focus is on the safety and welfare of all students.
Accompanied by four advocates including an attorney, Turner met with Carroll school officials on Dec. 12. She and her advocates issued a statement later on the outcome of that meeting: First, a sincere apology for recent events and misunderstandings has been given by school administration and accepted by the family. Second, the Bowdon Elementary School guidance counselor will educate staff and students about honoring and accepting the differences that make us individuals. Third, procedures have been put in place to ensure classroom activities don’t alienate students.
In a Dec. 13 radio interview on Pagan Warrior Radio hosted by Selena Fox, Turner thanked the national pagan community for its support, saying, “It has helped my son so much knowing that he is not alone.”
The New York Times has a good piece about the encroachment of religion in public schools. Several of the examples of proselytizing occurred in Southern schools.
The New York Times story notes:
At a school assembly here in South Carolina on Sept. 1, a preacher described how Christ saved him from drugs, telling his rapt audience that “a relationship with Jesus is what you need more than anything else.” A rapper shouted the Lord’s praise to a light show and most of the audience stepped forward to pledge themselves to Christ while a few remained, uncomfortable, in their seats.
Such overt evangelizing would not be unusual at a prayer rally, but this was a daytime celebration in a public school gymnasium, arranged by the principal for sixth, seventh and eighth graders. When the rapper posted a video on YouTube, announcing that “324 kids at this school have made a decision for Jesus Christ,” he drew unwelcome public and legal scrutiny to the event. It was the kind of religious advocacy that is increasingly coming to light, legal experts say, as school populations become more diverse and as the objection of non-Christians — or, in this case, the rejoicing of evangelists — is broadcast on the Internet.
In landmark decisions in 1962 and 1963, the Supreme Court barred official promotion of religion in schools. That principle has remained solid, if pilloried by conservatives who blame it for what they see as the nation’s moral and social decline. At the same time, the courts and Congress have also reinforced the rights of students to pray on their own and to form after-school religious clubs.
But battles over the place of religion in schools continue. This month, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit demanding that the Chesterfield County, S.C., school district end what the suit describes as the continuing promotion of religion in several of its schools, including the middle school that held the prayer rally. The A.C.L.U. brought the suit on behalf of a seventh grader who said he was subjected to unwanted proselytizing and has been harassed for his avowals of atheism.
Christian legal advocates counter that such plain violations are far less common than the opposite problem: overzealous officials trying to cleanse the schools of religion, punishing students for protected speech like personal prayer or handing out devotional messages to their friends.
Watchdog groups like the A.C.L.U., Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the Freedom From Religion Foundation say that in the last few years, they have learned more often about what they call blatant violations like the South Carolina rally. It is unclear, they say, whether the number of such events is growing, or whether they are now more likely to come to light. But still, these advocates say, even when clear violations occur, concerned families are often reluctant to bring legal challenges because they fear social hostility.
–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog
563 comments Add your comment
Melissa
December 30th, 2011
9:30 am
One final note. Trolls only come out to chase away polite discourse and exchange of ideas. It’s a shame that they must disrupt what was an interesting and informative discussion.
Observer
December 30th, 2011
10:57 am
@ Melissa. At this point, there are 551 comments on a general blog that usually only sees around 100-150 comments per topic. With a topic like this one, you’re going to get a whole slew of trolls waiting under the bridge for passersby, and here they came out almost immediately. There seems to be one last troll right now, but I think the others just got tired and went home to their caves.
Truth in Moderation
December 30th, 2011
11:04 am
11 Dear friends, I urge you, as foreigners and exiles, to abstain from sinful desires, which wage war against your soul. 12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.
1 Peter 2:11-12
jarvis
December 30th, 2011
11:36 am
Entire story is patently false. Made up for publicity.
Truth in Moderation
December 30th, 2011
11:38 am
Friends, Trolls, Pagans, Wiccans, Catholics, Atheists, Baptists, Episcopalians, Satanists, Muslims, Buddhists, and all other faiths, lend me your eyes!
We have a “Get Schooled Blog” record of 553 comments on a topic dear to the First Amendment. Each of you has had the freedom to have their say, and compete in the free market of ideas. This is as the Founding Fathers intended. It is no accident that freedom of religion AND freedom of speech was written in ONE sentence. THEY GO HAND IN HAND. Unfortunately, there are those who would take away this right on the internet, and leave its control in the hands of the Attorney General (currently, Eric Holder, who is involved in the Fast and Furious gun running scandal) all in the name of protecting copyright. WE ALREADY HAVE SUFFICIENT COPYRIGHT LAWS! This is the same tactic used to control the press in the former Soviet Union. We must join together to fight this overthrow of our First Amendment Freedom!
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David Sims
December 30th, 2011
11:59 am
East Repeat, that “still small voice” isn’t God talking. It’s the result of psychological conditioning in a child’s early years, up to about age nine. The same thing that causes someone to worry about what Daddy will think if you misbehave is what causes Christians to think that God’s speaking in a “still, small voice.” Which is nonsense. It’s a very well-understood effect of conditioning on the human mind.
On the other hand, I think that not having any religion in the schools is simply giving atheists (like me) what we want, at the expense of religious taxpayers. Why should we be the winners?
Wouldn’t it be better to allow the schools to teach and practice the religion of whichever group of taxpayers pays most of the money?
The way things are now, it’s as though our government had declared it morally acceptable to require, under penalty of law, Christians to hand over some of their earnings so that the government can spend the money in ways that make atheists smile.
DeeDee
December 30th, 2011
12:46 pm
Javis – do you have proof? I checked the links and the story seems to be well documented.
Truth – Why do you keep quoting scripture? The bible is rife with contradictions. I’m a firm believer in being moral and respectful and don’t need a book/person/religion telling me how to do that. There is only one golden rule. Treat other people as you wish to be treated.
Maureen Downey
December 30th, 2011
12:48 pm
@Jarvis, Not sure what you mean as I did speak to the school system when the story broke and it was looking into the incident. The system was clearly aware of it.
Are you saying the actual incident never happened and the family lied?
Maureen
DeeDee
December 30th, 2011
12:50 pm
David Sims – religion doesn’t belong in public schools. It belongs in whatever house of worship a person attends or wants to teach their children in the privacy of their homes. If someone only wants their child exposed to their religion, then they can bear the cost of sending them to a private religious school.
Truth in Moderation
December 30th, 2011
4:02 pm
@DeeDee
Why do you keep quoting yourself?
I guess you wish to be censored?
another teacher
December 30th, 2011
4:04 pm
Paganism, wicca or voodoo, which one is looked down on is personal choice. Amazingly, wicca people did not found this country. Neither do voodoo practioners. We as Americans allow followers of Islam special dispensation to pray. Our founders did not create a religious country to be educated in but one cannot separate the church from formal education. study history, or herstory.
Truth in Moderation
December 30th, 2011
4:18 pm
@David Sims
You made some good comments. It has always been my position that ALL education is religious (including Atheism) and therefore any tax supported school violates the First Amendment. I have advocated the repeal of the Georgia Compulsory (school) Attendance law many times on this blog on Constitutional grounds. Many argued the same thing before the law was passed. Otherwise, ALL religious views and curriculum must be taught. And of course we know that won’t happen. Until citizens demand that the Constitution be upheld, we’ll waste millions of dollars on “religious” lawsuits.
I have always believed in the free market competition of religion. After all, we are talking about many different claims as to what is TRUE. Obviously, they can’t all be correct. True religion, based on True Power will prevail. A true Deity doesn’t need human protection. Individuals who think there is no god but themselves need no special protection either.
One of my favorite Bible quotes:
“Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.” Romans 3:4
Truth in Moderation
December 30th, 2011
8:30 pm
@Progressive Humanist
About Death.
Here is a video of a young man who died and lived to tell about it. He was born with a life-threatening heart disease and chronicled his battles on You Tube. He gives vivid details of his death experience. Sadly, he could not cheat Death again, and died on Christmas Day. Perhaps this will open your mind just a teeny bit that there is life beyond the grave. Get some Kleenex before you watch….
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/273170/20111227/ben-breedlove-austin-teen-youtube-dies-videos.htm