State report on Dougherty: “Acceptance of wrongdoing and a pattern of incompetence that is a blight on the community.”

Update: I added the statement of Georgia school superintendent John Barge at 3:30.

Sit back and get ready to read another searing report on a Georgia school system gone bad. The state report on cheating in Dougherty County schools is online, and it is not pretty. Investigators secured confessions about cheating that was blatant and systematic.

And as with APS, investigators concluded that the district superintendent, Sally Whatley, and her senior staff should have known cheating was occurring. “In that duty, they failed,” the report states.

Here is what investigators said about New Jackson Heights Elementary in the report: Cheating was a way of life at this school. On unit tests, for example, teachers would mark the correct answers, and then return the marked-up tests to the students. The teachers would do this so that the students would see which answers were wrong and make corrections.

State school chief John Barge was quick to issue a statement:

Today’s report on cheating by some educators in the Dougherty County School System is another sad case of adults putting personal interests above those of their students. I am especially disappointed in education leaders who would threaten teachers’ jobs if students did not perform well on the CRCT. While this behavior is inexcusable, it does highlight the need to look at a different, more thorough accountability system such as Georgia’s new College and Career Ready Performance Index, which we have already submitted in the form of a waiver to the U.S. Dept. of Education seeking relief from the narrowly defined designation of success found in No Child Left Behind. Relying on a single test to determine a student’s and a school’s academic success is plagued with problems.

The Georgia Department of Education will work closely with the Dougherty County School System to provide support for students who were negatively impacted by the actions of adults. We will also look into whether or not any schools and educators undeservedly received financial reward for these artificial CRCT results.”

As was the case with the Atlanta Public Schools investigation findings, the vast majority of the educators in Dougherty County and throughout the state are ethically sound and work diligently with the best interests of their students in mind. I’m committed to working with our districts to ensure our students are not robbed of a quality and meaningful education.

Here is a sample from volume 1 of the two-volume report:

The disgraceful situation we found in the Dougherty County School System (DCSS) is a tragedy, sadly illustrated by a comment made by a teacher who said that her fifth grade students could not read, yet did well on the Criterion-Referenced Competency Tests (CRCT).

This incredible statement from a teacher in a school where the principal flatly refused to cooperate with our investigation is indicative of what we found in many of the schools we visited.

To our amazement, this top-level administrator would not even answer questions about how she mishandled her duties as the person who is most responsible, at that school, for overseeing all testing activity.

Another school principal, whose salary was over $90,000 per year, allowed her family to falsely claim that they were eligible for a federally-funded free lunch each school day, even though official guidelines required the annual income to be no more than $24,089.

Yet another principal, with regard to our interviews, told a teacher: “Don’t you tell them anything, you hear?”

Notwithstanding these examples of misconduct, there are skilled, dedicated and well-meaning educators in this school system. But their work is often overshadowed by an acceptance of wrongdoing and a pattern of incompetence that is a blight on the community that will feel its effects for generations to come. This is the Dougherty County School System.

Hundreds of school children were harmed by extensive cheating in the Dougherty County School System. In 11 schools, 18 educators admitted to cheating. We found cheating on the 2009 CRCT in all of the schools we examined. A total of 49 educators were involved in some form of misconduct or failure to perform their duty with regard to this test.

While we did not find that Superintendent Sally Whatley or her senior staff knew that crimes or other misconduct were occurring, they should have known and were ultimately responsible for accurately testing and assessing students in this system. In that duty, they failed. The 2009 erasure analysis, and other evidence, suggests that there were far more educators involved in cheating, but a fair analysis of the facts did not allow us to sufficiently establish the identity of every participant.

The statistics, and the individual student data, leave little room for any other reasonable explanation, save for cheating. For example, the percentage of flagged classrooms for DCSS is ten times higher than the state average.

Unlike our investigation of criminal misconduct in the Atlanta Public Schools, officials with Dougherty County Schools (and their agents) provided, in a timely and professional manner, access to all personnel and needed documents.

–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog

134 comments Add your comment

another teacher

December 20th, 2011
11:30 am

Cheating has always been the tailing wagging the dog. In a results driven culture, teacher
did not, cannot trust their own teaching skills or the kids preparation or lack of preparation.
Ultimately, the principals are at fault. They allowed this to happen. This reminds me of instittutional
racism of the seventies and eighties. Even if you did not know, then you should have. I taught in public schools. The principals knew.

Beverly Fraud

December 20th, 2011
11:43 am

What’s the matter, they couldn’t find a Blue Ribbon Commission to “finesse it past the governor”?


December 20th, 2011
12:05 pm

A nightmare for many, many people–for everyone who knew better. You wonder just how many people feel trapped in terrible situations like this, not knowing how to escape.

Dr NO / Mr Sunshine

December 20th, 2011
12:14 pm

Well Well Well, here is an interesting tidbit…

“The report adds: “Sally Whatley (Former DCSS Superintendent) is ultimately responsible.”

LOL…Dekalb Country strikes again…LOL.



December 20th, 2011
12:34 pm

“One teacher said her fifth-grade students could not read, yet did well on the CRCT.”

If any of these “educators” had one ounce of courage, this would have never happened. Why did it take media scrutiny to break this open? Why didn’t the crooked fool “educators” go to the media, the police, the governors office…anywhere?????
I’ll tell you why, because they were lazy, and incompetent cowards that couldn’t care less if little Quantavious learned anything but to be a good little gang member/criminal.


December 20th, 2011
12:42 pm

The governor was reportedly outraged over these additional claims of cheating but didn’t he resign his seat in Congress to avoid ethics charges?And isn’t that effectively cheating? The system has gone haywire and there are too few honorable men and women to perform the necessary functions in education. Really nobody should be shocked of these findings uncovered. I predict there will be more because in a year or so few if any school systems will be able to make ayp as written.

Good Mother

December 20th, 2011
12:47 pm

Fifth graders can’t read.

Did you hear that?

Fifth graders can’t read.

No amount of standardized testing is at fault for that.

The school system failed these students. The school system failed society.

It is a crime that a fifth grader can’t read.

Dear Lord, I am frightened for America’s future.

Top School

December 20th, 2011
1:09 pm

Oh… the censor machine is on again.


December 20th, 2011
1:24 pm

Not a day passes that I don’t wish that whoever the idiot is that invented NCLB would have never been born.

ANother teacher from Good Mother

December 20th, 2011
1:28 pm

Another teacher, you are blaming a once a year test. The children are tested once a year and yet fifth graders cannot read. You want to blame the test for that?

You mean in FIVE YEARS you cannot teach a kid to read?

Disgraceful. Shameful. Disgusting.

Hillbilly D

December 20th, 2011
1:32 pm

In my opinion, this cheating on tests is like a lot of other things in life, there’s the caught and the uncaught. My guess is the uncaught outnumbers the caught, by quite a bit. In my own community, there were some descrepancies in test results. About that time though, the APS scandal broke and the local problem sort of quietly disappeared. Don’t know if there was anything there or not but it certainly needed looking into.


December 20th, 2011
1:55 pm

Others have picked up on this comment “…sadly illustrated by a comment made by a teacher who said that her fifth grade students could not read…”.

Most troubling though, is STUDENTS. Plural. More than one and sounds like quite a few, given the context of the statement.

What excuses can these TEACHERS and ADMINISTRATORS give for passing students from grade to grade to grade who cannot read?

A school system where eleven out of fifteen elementary schools, almost 75%, have now been implicated in a cheating scandal. If there ever was a candidate for the state to take over a school system, this is the one.

Dr. Craig Spinks/ Georgians for Educational Excellence

December 20th, 2011
2:02 pm

“Truth is stranger than fiction.”

And my years of experience in publicly-funded education in Georgia lead me to believe that the Truth is going to get stranger- and more embarrassing.

HS Public Teacher

December 20th, 2011
2:03 pm

@shaggy – You simply do not under the culture of being a mere classroom teacher in today’s Georgia education system.

Was the teacher wrong, of course. Should the teacher have done something, most likely. However, here is a reminder….

During WWII there were many Germany military folks that marched Jewish people to concentration camps that eventually became a place where they were put to death. The military individuals knew that the Jewish people were going to die. However, even if they felt strongly that it was wrong, they did it any way. They were simply following orders and doing their job. Were they wrong? Yes.

Sound familiar?


December 20th, 2011
2:07 pm

Can Governor Deal remove the DCSS Board?


December 20th, 2011
2:08 pm

Dr. No: Was Ms. Whatley formerly with Dekalb or Dougherty?

And, yes, it is possible to have 5th graders who can’t read. Many come from homes with no literate person present. These kids have had YEARS of extra classes, smaller classes, after school tutoring. They either have not been tested for sped (because the RTI process in our system changes daily–you can’t hit a moving target) or a few were tested but “just missed it.” So what do we do? We pass them on.

Hillbilly D

December 20th, 2011
2:12 pm

What excuses can these TEACHERS and ADMINISTRATORS give for passing students from grade to grade to grade who cannot read?

My own personal feeling is that teaching a kid to read is the most important thing you can teach them. If they can read, they have the ability to learn anything else, if they so desire. When I was in first grade, way back when, the only thing I remember being taught for at least the first several months was how to read and write. Once we got that down, then we started on simple addition and subtraction. Granted we couldn’t have read “War and Peace” but we were on our way. In my opinion, no child should be passed along, until they can read at grade level. Moving them up a grade before they are ready isn’t doing them any favors.


December 20th, 2011
2:49 pm

If your kids can’t read then its your fault. Period. Why place the burden on the school system, its your fault. How in the heck does your kids go about the entire year with out you knowing something isn’t right? Don’t adults play mind games with kids anymore where you have them read everyday labels or street signs or books? What about reading things on the internet? Sad day in Georgia.

To Bloodbike from Good Mother

December 20th, 2011
3:01 pm

Bloodbike blames parents. Yawn. Heard it.

These kids went to school for six hours a day, 180 days for five years, minimum.

Yet, after 5,400 hours of “instruction” by their so-called “teachers” the students could not read.

What are the teachers being paid for then?

If it is the job of the parent to teach, then teachers need to pay us their salary (which we paid for in the first place.)

Teachers, by vary definition of their title. are paid to teach.

Parents support the teachers by emphasizing what is supposedly learned at school.

Bloodbike, you’re pathetic. You blame parents because you failed to do the job you were paid to do.


Dear Lord, I am afraid for America.

HS Teacher from Good Mother

December 20th, 2011
3:05 pm

HS Teacher, how dare you compare your situation to that of the Jews and Germans.

German citizens were threatend with THEIR LIVES if they helped the Jews.

The most you suffered was that someone IMPLIED you MIGHT lose your job.

You can hardly compare the threat of losing a job with the threat of losing your life…

BUT since you brought it up.

Although German citizens were threatened with their very lives for helping the Jews, they did it anyway.

The German citizens risked their lives to help others….and many died for helping the Jews.

Because, you see, they had something you don’t have. They had integrity. They had a consciense.

They were HONEST and YOU are not.

Hillbilly D

December 20th, 2011
3:08 pm

Don’t adults play mind games with kids anymore where you have them read everyday labels or street signs or books?

Most kids now are watching the DVD player in the back seat. We used to do the roadsign thing, etc, when I was growing up. Back in those days, we used to try to spot out of state tags and identify which county a Georgia tag was from. Back then, you didn’t have the county sticker at the bottom, the county was identified by the number at the beginning. Those went in order of population, 1-Fulton 2-DeKalb (I remember when DeKalb went from 3 to 2), etc. The big ones and the ones in our area we knew, the others we had a little chart (don’t remember where we got those), that we could look it up. So if we saw a tag that started in say 75, Daddy would say, “75, where is that at?” and we’d look it up. We counted cows in pastures and all sorts of things. It kept us busy and we had no idea we were being taught but we were.

I agree that parents are a large part of the problems in schools but I honestly don’t know how you make people care about there kids, if they don’t already.

Dreaming of an Orange Christmas....

December 20th, 2011
3:24 pm

…for Sally and Beverly……and their crew of naughty elves.


December 20th, 2011
3:25 pm

Sorry @Bloodbike, this is one you can’t hang on the parents. The teacher provides instruction, conducts assessments, and signs the dotted line saying this student has performed in a satisfactory manner and should be promoted to the next grade. There are occasions where a teacher recommends to retain a student and a administrator overrides them.

Bottom line, the teacher and the administrator are the ones with the paperwork on the wall that says they will exercise professional judgement in carrying out these duties.

Time for the Professional Standards Board to start yanking teaching certificates, IMHO.


December 20th, 2011
3:30 pm

@ Lee. This is one where I agreed with you.

HS Public Teacher

December 20th, 2011
3:32 pm

@Lee – Come on now. Do you really feel that any parent would not notice that their child cannot read? Shouldn’t they notice at SOME point during that child’s life?

If you really think the answer is no, they you cannot have a logical discussion….

I am not saying that the teacher is right or okay. We are speaking of parental duties here.


December 20th, 2011
3:34 pm

P.S. Yanking them for the administrators, too.

NWGA Teacher

December 20th, 2011
3:55 pm

I teach several 5th graders who can barely read. As catlady said, some of them have had years of ESOL and EIP interventions. Their parents don’t or can’t read to them or help them with school work; there are no books in their homes. Some of them are beginning to read for pleasure; however, with every day a reminder of the upcoming CRCT, reading becomes a chore.

I taught my child to read at age four, as my parents had taught my brother and me. I wasn’t a teacher then, but I taught her to read and write, to count, and to do simple addition and subtraction. She attended mother’s day out, nursery school, pre-k and kindergarten. Few of my students have had those advantages. Their parents are exhausted from trying to earn enough to keep their families afloat, disinterested, or uneducated. Many of them don’t care. Many of them care very much, but they don’t have time or resources to help their children. They can’t or won’t help with homework or make sure their kids attempt to do homework. I wish I had an answer.

Can’t I teach them to read? Sure, but not in 55 minutes per day. That’s the most I can spend with any group of students, each of whom has different educational needs.


December 20th, 2011
3:56 pm

John Barge is 100% hypocrite!

To say this after excusing and ignoring what his Hall County friends and former coworkers were doing by transfering students just days before graduation to improve graduation rates is just wrong. Both the AJC and Channel 2 news reported on.

No honor at all.

I guarantee those high schools in Hall County who raised their rates this way received award and/or money for doing so.

Hillbilly D

December 20th, 2011
4:02 pm

Can’t I teach them to read? Sure, but not in 55 minutes per day.

That’s an interesting point. When I was in first grade, we had one teacher, who spent the entire day with us. We had breaks, recess and lunch, of course, but she could spend as much time as she wanted (or I assume she could, the memory is hazy) on a particular thing. We didn’t have to be up and on to another class, in an hour.

We actually didn’t start to change classes until 6th grade, I think it was.


December 20th, 2011
4:12 pm

In elementary school you have WAY more than 55 minutes a day with a kid. I’m sorry, but having a 5th grader that CANNOT READ is disgusting. What are teachers getting paid for????


December 20th, 2011
4:14 pm

Proof of Barge’s blind eye for former system’s manipulations and cheating. What is the difference between doing this and removing students from school roles so their CRCT scores don’t count?

Not a thing.

You can also Google Channel 2 report on Hall County Schools on YouTube for the video. So blatent yet just swept under the political rug.

NWGA Teacher

December 20th, 2011
4:17 pm

ABC, many elementary schools are departmentalized. Students move from classroom to classroom. Their classes are usually 45-55 minutes long. Each of my classes lasts 55 minutes. It is not my CHOICE, it is the schedule. I don’t make the schedule.


December 20th, 2011
4:44 pm

Questions about the the teacher who said her students couldn’t read:

1. Were these students regular ed or special ed?
2. Had they failed the CRCT in previous years and then were passed on by committee?
3. Did she mean that they were illiterate, or were they reading significantly below grade level?

Here’s why:
1. If they were special ed, then they could have been promoted because they mastered the “goals” on their IEP. As a regular ed teacher, I have seen some POORLY written IEP’s. Plus, at the IEP review meeting, I’ve had spec ed teachers tell the parents that the student has met all the goals, when they obviously have not. However, they don’t want the parents to think that they haven’t done their job, so they send the child off to be included in a regular ed class where they are completely unprepared and incapable of doing the work.

2. Teachers do not decide whether to retain a student. It is determined by committee, and an administrator has to sign off. It sounds like this principal was determined that no one would be held back. If he/she was willing to erase wrong answers on the CRCT, what are the chances that a teacher could convince the principal to retain a student, especially in the lower grades when it’s the most helpful? I teach second grade, and here’s what my administrators have told me when I’ve had students I want to retain: “The CRCT will catch them in 3rd grade.” Really?? So, we’re going to let a child struggle through another year doing work that they can’t handle and get more frustrated in the hopes that they’ll fail the CRCT in 3rd grade. AND, if they do fail, they go to summer school where they test prep for three weeks to take it again. Most of the time, if they fail it again, the SST committee will simply determine that they’ve mastered the curriculum and send them on. Now, they are even FURTHER behind. Unfortunately, I can beg until I’m blue in the face, but I don’t have the authority to hold anyone back. (While I’m sure some here would say that I need to try harder, there’s only so much you can do and still keep your job. And while I want the best for every one of my students, I’m also not willing to throw my career away because my supervisor has overturned a decision of mine. Put the blame squarely where it belongs.)

3. I have a hard time believing these students couldn’t read at all. I’m more inclined to believe that they were reading 2 to 3 years behind. Still appalling, but if you want to know how a 5th grader could get to 5th grade while still only reading like a 2nd grader, see point 2.

SOS From Albany

December 20th, 2011
4:58 pm



December 20th, 2011
5:05 pm

Do you truly believe the corruption, incompetence, mail order credentials, nepotism, and cronyism are limitedto APS and Dougherty? Hence the screen name.

yes i am worried

December 20th, 2011
5:10 pm


Were there financial incentives for performance in Dougherty like Atlanta? I can’t imagine there were, but I suppose it is possible.

What do you know about this issue?

Beverly Fraud

December 20th, 2011
5:17 pm


Barring that, could the governor call a special session to pass a tax break/incentive proposal for any passing asteroids willing to relocate to Albany and Atlanta?


December 20th, 2011
5:18 pm

@ irisheyes: what are the chances that a teacher could convince the principal to retain a student, especially in the lower grades when it’s the most helpful? I teach second grade, and here’s what my administrators have told me when I’ve had students I want to retain: “The CRCT will catch them in 3rd grade.” Really?? So, we’re going to let a child struggle through another year doing work that they can’t handle and get more frustrated in the hopes that they’ll fail the CRCT in 3rd grade.

And all the research upon which RTI is based says that problems must be diagnosed and remediated very early, or the children will be more likely to need special education services. Doesn’t sound as if that’s working out very well.

Beverly Fraud

December 20th, 2011
5:23 pm

“The CRCT will catch them in 3rd grade.” Really??

@irisheyes, I wonder if you’ve heard the following (or any variation thereof) for 5th grade?

“Send their @ss to middle school and let them FUBAR their scores for a change.”

Hillbilly D

December 20th, 2011
5:34 pm

all the research upon which RTI is based says that problems must be diagnosed and remediated very early, or the children will be more likely to need special education services.

I’m in no way involved in the education system but that just sounds like common sense to me.

Jordan Kohanim

December 20th, 2011
5:37 pm

ST671 says: “And all the research upon which RTI is based says that problems must be diagnosed and remediated very early, or the children will be more likely to need special education services. Doesn’t sound as if that’s working out very well.”

Which is one of the reasons I question its use in high school.

This is so sad, so unfair. I know I’m beating a dead horse, but I don’t understand how adding monetary incentives to test scores won’t just INCREASE these issues.


December 20th, 2011
6:03 pm

So, what’s going to happen to all those implicated in the cheating? Will they quietly disappear into the woodwork as those in the Atlanta scandal have managed to do?


December 20th, 2011
6:31 pm

@Hillbilly D, you’ve heard the old saying about “Common sense ain’t all that common”? It goes double when you’re talking about educrats.

@Jordan, yes, using RTI in high school – or middle school, or even upper elementary school – is a total misapplication of the research. Of course, I’m convinced that 90% of those who tout “research-based” solutions wouldn’t know real research if it reached up and slapped them in the face.

And I agree about the monetary incentives.


December 20th, 2011
6:33 pm

No matter how hard the teacher lobbies, the “committee” always sends them on. We have even had parents request their child be held back, and the principal attempt to deny the request. Of course, usually the parents do not want their child held back. So we have kids who have failed the CRCT EVERY year they have been in school (pretty hard to do, given what a “generous” test it is), with EIP supplementary help in reading and math (for years), ESOL if they qualify, and tutoring every spring before the CRCT, not to mention “summer school” before the second CRCT administration. At what point do we “get it” and figure the child is not able to do the current year’s work, much less the next year? We continue to do endless 3 week plans for RTI, never getting to the bottom of what is the problem for the child.

I believe, in my system, we could decrease the failure rate on the CRCT by a quarter or so BY HOLDING STUDENTS BACK. It would not take long, and those kids who CAN do the work would start to do it. Their parents would become much more active, much more concerned. Still doesn’t help the others, made up of sped, undiagnosed sped, and level 2-3 ESOL kids, but would cut back the numbers somewhat.

I’d like to hear from other teachers, how long is the RTI process in your system? We have to have 12 weeks of unsuccessful Tier 2, then 9-12 more weeks of unsuccessful Tier 3, before any mention of sped testing. By that time, if you get through that, it is “too late” to test. And so, the process starts the next year. Same in other systems?


December 20th, 2011
6:37 pm

And here’s something about tying test scores to evaluations: one year, one of my classes had the lowest pass rate in the school, and another had the highest. Same teacher, same standards, same methods, class sizes not significantly different. Neither class was SpEd, and neither class was labeled advanced, honors, gifted, etc.

They were two totally different groups of kids, and with the different groups came different dynamics, motivational levels, and skill levels. But should I have gotten a bonus for the high class, or a slap on the hand for the low class? hmmmmmm???


December 20th, 2011
6:42 pm

While it is totally disgusting that a 5th grader can’t read, the fault belongs with the parent (as the primary and first teacher), maybe the school-house teacher, but most definitely with the school’s administration and central office policies and programs, and less we forget–our own federal government! I’ve lived in Dekalb county since the 1970’s, and have witnessed the decimation of this County’s school system. I’ve been employed by the system for the past 12 years, and I can assure you that teachers have no say when it comes to promoting or retaining a student!

Personally, I’d like to see the system (or for that matter, the entire state) adopt a well-researched and documented phonics program such as Orton-Gilligham’s based “Riggs Phonics Program”. This program is based on Dr. Samuel T. Orton’s (neuroscientist) research and findings. His first successful applications went to re-establish language-skills memory in brain-damaged World War I veterans. Other physiological organic or trauma-induced brain-damaged individuals (i.e. stroke patients) were treated similarly until his death in 1948. The program was adopted by Romalda Spalding and The Writing Road to Reading. Using Orton’s methods to teach normal primary students was designed by one of his last teacher-collaborators, Romalda Spalding, who authored The Writing Road to Reading in 1957. She believed that her method represented Dr. Orton’s final conclusions that this method should be used for primary children, both to prevent and correct learning disorders, and most importantly to establish high literacy in virtually all primary children.

No, I’m not a representative of this company, nor do I know anybody within this company; however, I’ve used this program and it most definitely works!! It also works extremely well with the ESOL population (students who currently can’t speak English). I truly believe that if a superb phonics program was introduced–adopted–and utilized (such as the one mentioned), with properly trained teachers of the program, this would go along way towards alleviating the illiteracy within our state. If you can’t read, you’re not going to be able to do much of anything!!


December 20th, 2011
6:48 pm

catlady, oh yes. I’ve had students who have never ever passed a CRCT but also have never ever been held back. I’ve had parents who said they begged for their child to be retained in middle school because they knew s/he wasn’t ready for high school, but the student was sent on anyway. Have even had a couple of kids who skipped 8th grade entirely, even though they were failing in 7th, because they were “too old” for middle school and so they were sent on to high school.

And we’re on an 18 week block schedule. By the time you get a child, figure out there is a problem and get the RTI paperwork through, there probably isn’t time to do the required 12 weeks of Tier 2, but next semester the child gets a whole new set of classes, which may or may not require the skills the student is struggling with, but in any case, with new classes comes the need for new interventions and a whole new set of record-keeping.

Then, if the child has discipline or attendance issues, which so many do after so many years of struggling and failing, there’s a whole other discussion about whether the problem is the child’s skill level, or the child’s behavior or attendance or….


December 20th, 2011
6:51 pm

I do believe The Doctor Spinks just came out of the closet. And then there is Jordan who is at the crossroads. Now how does one address elementary education failures with a correct solution. Is everyone cheating? Does anyone care?

One would think the people with skin in the game would look to a solution. It dosen’t appear that is the case. Just more ble, bla, blah.

And to think Sonny was the EDUCATION GOVERNOR?


December 20th, 2011
6:56 pm

Maybe Get Schooled should do an in-depth look at the travesty that is RTI?

Jordan Kohanim

December 20th, 2011
6:59 pm

“And then there is Jordan who is at the crossroads.”

Sorry? I don’t understand your point here. Please explain.