“Undocumented, unafraid” and unwelcome today at Georgia’s premier campuses

I cant wait for the crowd that thinks I should feel sorry for the illegals to weigh in on this one. I don’t and never will feel sorry for them even if it isn’t the kids fault. Go through the process like many did before you and then you can reap the rewards that come with citizenship. The fact that the 15 year old thinks he has “rights” shows what the main problem is. He thinks he’s entitled to something he hasn’t earned. Then again, many of today’s kids feel entitled to everything without actual merit, but that’s a different story.

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Ditto.

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Mr. Galeana has no rights. He is not a citizen and evidently neither are his parents. Become a citizen – legally – then you have rights. Until then, you are a guest of the US people. We cannot afford to send non-citizens to college. Also, please do not direct your anger at us. Redirect your anger where it belongs, your parents who obviously came here illegally and made you an accessory.

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We should be turning over every rock looking for really smart, motivated kids, instead of the entitled, lazy citizen kids so many parents are turning out.

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Let’s see. He’s 15 years old and came here at the age of 2. That means he (and his family) have had 13 years to become legal citizens, yet they haven’t. Tell me again what “rights” he has?

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This is neither a pro-illegal or anti-illegal comment but I am echoing @catlady’s comment. Some accommodation should be reachable for kids who want to be here and want to strive for the highest level of success possible. I see too many “eligible” kids who milk their parents for all they can and either drop out due to lack of performance or end up on the 6 year plan while they are still trying to find themselves. Bottom line is that there should be a way for minor children of illegal immigrants to be fast tracked for citizenship with a sponsor family assigned to them.

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Rights as a citizen come with responsibilities. Illegal aliens have no rights.

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Neither this kid who THINKS he deserves special “rights” because his parents broke the law, nor any other illegal alien deserves a darn thing from this nation except to be catapulted back across the border. I am so tired of hearing the whine that we can’t punish these kids for their parents’ bad choices. PLENTY of American kids pay for the bad choices of their parents every single day and always have. How many of THEM march in the streets crying like little babies? I have never seen a protest by the children of AMERICAN criminals.

For those of you who think they deserve a chance at citizenship and an education in one of the colleges OUR tax money pays for…you DO realize they will then sponsor their criminal parents, not to mention loads of their other relatives, to become legal blood suckers, don’t you?

Also, have you not noticed how many of these kids major in law or politics in colleges paid for by Americans? What the heck do you think they’re going to do with those degrees except infiltrate our courts and government and change this nation to the point it will be the same third world toilet they crawled out of? Many of them have sworn to do so and if America doesn’t wake up and stop falling for the nonsense they are up to, that’s just what they’ll do.

Do you want to leave a better America for YOUR children or not? Charity begins at home.

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d –
What exactly did you do to “earn” your citizenship? Get luck enough to be born in the right place at the right time? I don’t think these kids are acting entitled. They’ve worked just as hard as their classmates and just want an opportunity to be part of this great country.

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For the second time this week for the slow people!

http://youtu.be/LPjzfGChGlE

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Sarah, these kids may have worked hard but so did the AMERICANS who paid property taxes so these illegal aliens could clog our schools and dumb down our own kids…while their parents entered illegally, worked illegally, and most likely collected welfare illegally. If you feel so warm and fuzzy toward these kids, I would suggest YOU support them. I’m sick of it.

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Do the work to become legal and then relax. How horrible it must feel for these kids but its up to them.

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[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) [...]

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I suspect there are many illegals!!!! This counts as diversity. That is the main thing colleges are looking for these days, It is a sure sign of exceptance, even over gpa/SAT scores. Sad but true. The colleges will never admit to this. Another form of cheating the system.

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For those of you who feel so sorry for these kids that you would sell our nation to the lowest bidders, you are being duped. These open borders extremists PLANNED it that way! They use the children DELIBERATELY…I have read this on many of their websites. They do it to pull at your heartstrings KNOWING these kids, if made “legal” will sponsor their law breaking parents for citizenship, along with hundreds of their other relatives. They planned it, executed it and you drank the kool aid without ever doing your own research to see what they’re up to. What a bunch of suckers.

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“d” started it off right with his comments. This is what is wrong with America, not right. We have become so soft that we accommodate those who feel they are the most entitled, so entitled that they do not have to follow rules and laws put in place so that they ultimately benefit the immigrant. The bottom line is those who become legal are those are those that should be lauded and those that don’t are just using and abusing the system. They are not victims, they are victimizers and non-assimilaters, and “entitlement” demanders.

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Hey mike, my ancestors came from Africa in chains smart guy. Quit making this about race, there are plenty of LEGAL people of color who are tired of you racists making this issue about race.

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“15-year-old Alejandro Galeana. “They’re taking away the education that we have a right to.” This is the problem with being assimilated in to crime by their parents they think they have the right to break the law. Send this moron and his parents back to his country and perhaps he can help his native land with what he learned here.

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This illegal aliens do not belong in our colleges and the thought of some states allowing them to receive in state tuition makes me sick! Why in the hell should they get a benefit before American citizens?? They all need to be rounded up and deported.

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NY Teaching Vet

August 23rd, 2011
10:27 pm
re: “from the heart”

“it is only with the heartthat one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye”
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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Once again, one must ponder the big question…”just exactly what is the point of discussion here”? This is not a question of race, nor of the social injustices hundreds of years ago. If we want to fish, hunt, drive, fly airplanes, etc…WE GO THROUGH A LAWFUL PROCESS. If we want to visit/live in another country, WE GO THROUGH A LAWFUL PROCESS. Failure to subject ourselves to a SPECIFIC lawful process while continuing to fish, hunt, drive, fly airplanes, visit/live in other countries, etc is (drumroll)…(like it or not)…BREAKING THE FRIQUIN LAW!

So, once again, without benefit of the violin strings in concert with the (so-called) downtrodden; without yet another review of the tired ole mindless “they drug my ancestors here in chains” arguement; without imagined rights to an education despite ILLEGAL status…

WHERE’S THE ARGUEMENT?

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Old Guy,

You’re suddenly interested in the law? How convenient. You weren’t interested in the law until the LEGAL citizens of this country ruined the economy and you needed someone to blame. People throw out this high and mighty law argument when the people who really break the law and really do severe damage to the economy walk or cash out or gently fall back to earth with thick wallets and golden parachutes. Fight the real enemy. Regulate wall street. Get the lobbyists out of our inept politicians purses and leave the newest residents of this country alone. And here’s some violins for you. Were you interested in laws when this state was robbed from its previous legal residents. Were you interested in laws when free blacks were arrested on trumped up charges and worked to death in prison camps. Where were the law loving residents of this state while they were stringing up Leo Frank from a tree. If people like yourself love the law so much they should have defended minority rights with the same zeal they seek to deport Hispanics. But it was convenient to sit back and let evil prevail while we ascended the socioeconomic ladder wasn’t it. So go back and cling to your laws now that the deck is stacked in your favor. You wouldn’t want anyone else to threaten the status we so legally have attained through the years.

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I wonder if that 15yo kid realizes that if he were to be able to get into UGA, he would have to pay out of state tuition, which hs about 3x the rate that a legal Georgia resident would pay. He is not eligible for the Hope Scholarship or other federal financial aid.

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Talking about the mistakes of parents, it is clear that people in this state hate beyond comprehension. It is clear that it was all passed onto you from generation after generation.

what part of the demands of those illegal students actually asks for tax payers money??? they are asking for ACCESS TO EDUCATION, so they do not end up uneducated like most ppl in this state. They are willing to pay OUT OF STATE TUITION 3X HIGHER meaning their tuition does not get any tax payers subsidies (just like the one paid by international students).

Now from the tax payers perspective even if I dislike those undocumented Americans (who do not know another homeland and who in many cases speak English better than their parents language),it makes total sense to grant these young boys and girls access to higher education, and a path to legality.
remember since WE THE TAX PAYERS have already poured millions of dollars on these kids education (elementary, middle, and high school), let them stay here to become useful elements of society. let them repay this country all the resources already invested in them. why hatred blinds us from seeing what truly is the best benefit for the society. stop being for once the incarnation of your parents mistakes and stop hating for God’s sake.

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Illegals are UNwelcome anywhere in America. GTF OUT NOW, you creepy leeches. Go make your own homelands better, instead of stealing your
‘rights’ from us.

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@Mike, my ancestors were native Americans and of European descent. With that said, I feel entitled to weigh in given my Native American (Eastern U.S. tribe). I agree with ‘d.’ These kids are not entitled to anything. Our (U.S.) priority goes to U.S. citizens. Full stop. Second, illegal immigrants need to follow the law and immigration process. If they do not, we need to open the borders and process to those are following the process legally from outside or inside the U.S. Thus, 3/4 of Mexico’s population will shortly be crossing the border, 1/4 of China’s population will be crossing the border, and it goes on. Last, given limited resources due to budget chronic short-fall, unprecedented deficits that threaten the economic health of this country long-term (for 40 years of longer – that is truly long-term), and high unemployment, the outrageous and insulting demands of illegal immigrants who are effectively claiming “squatter rights” in this country is insulting. These children need to return to their country of origin and fight for change there and/or immigrant legally. The children have been afforded a FREE and quality education at the expense of U.S. taxpayers. One more thing, given that President Obama will not listen to the will of the American people, a constitutional amendment needs to be implemented to change birthright citizenship. This is drastic but it is time to decisively end discussion about on this issue.

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“enlightened” people who support open borders need to spend about a month in socal. “progressives” thought it was a good idea to allow millions of undocumented and uneducated mexicans into california while it boomed. They did this to help california businesses have access to cheap unskilled labor. But what they didn’t bank on is that the cost to california taxpayers in the form of welfare, foodstamps, hospital bills, roads, other massive infrastructure expenses and schooling far outweighs the benefits of the below minimum wage labor that they offer. Also they just didn’t bank on such a massive and still uncounted influx of people. They also didn’t expect so many white people to flee california to get away from cities that are quickly being transformed into 3rd world holes with millions of poor angry uneducated mexican people who believe that california is rightfully their land. They openly hate white people and they are transforming california into mexico – the stupid backwards and corrupt crime riddled country that they came from. Also what these political morons didn’t consider is that such a massive ethnic shift in california’s population is increasing the chances that the us is going to be balkanized – with different parts of the country divided along ethnic lines – eventually breaking apart as the unifying force that makes us all Americans is dissolved.

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President Obama has spoken on the undocumented immigrant policy of the US. Young people who are brought here as small children should be considered in state residents. These young people deserve the chance to improve their lives with education.

The very wise decision of President Obama will give peace to the law abiding residents who have done nothing wrong. If the system was drastically streamlined and made very affordable for “the huddled masses” to come here legally, these economic refugees would be able to live and work without the fear of deportation.

I will ask all those who are opposed to the presence of the undocumented. If your family was starving and living in sub-standard conditions, what would you do?

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the supreme court said a long time ago all children should have a public education (i guess that means a right). it was a case deciding if free public education should include illegals. and the answer was yes. i’m not convinced that ruling applies here to higher education.

the student raises a good point about educational attainment and higher earnings. i feel for him on that point. but the student didnt’ mention what he (or hisfamily) hasdone to obtain legal immigration status for all these years. we all know the consequences and it’s almost as though he and others are flaunting the law.

i object to instate status for tuition for undocumented students. schools charge out of state plus surcharge to foreign students on proper visas. it’s not fair to those who went through the process and hoops to get legal status and/or visas and don’t get these perks.

good luck to all parties. it’s not an easy solution.

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Obama and the Democrats are now releasing illegal aliens who have not committed felonies. They should be deported and take their children with them to their home countries! We now have an open borders immigration policy.

We are sick and tired of supporting illegal aliens here in the US. They cost the state of Georgia more than $1 Billion each year for the cost of K-12 educations. Allowing the children of illegal aliens to even attend colleges and universities in Georgia only rewards their parents and will remain a magnet drawing illegal aliens into the US and Georgia specifically.

Allowing illegal aliens

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Conservatives make much of how costly illegal aliens are, but when it comes to regulating banks and other quasi-financial institutions–you know, the ones that had a big role in tanking our economy back in 2008–they don’t seem to be quite so interested in the bottom line. Funny how that works.

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I agree with Mom of 3 – I have a daughter at UGA who was wait-listed despite having a great GPA, high SAT scores, and lots of extra-curricular activities. If she had not eventually been accepted and I found out an illegal immigrant had been accepted instead, I would have been VERY angry. While I support some reform in the immigration process, until then we need to enforce the laws we have. Those children are the byproducts of our failure to enforce the law 18 years ago.

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Dear Maureen,
I wasn’t going to read the above because I worried about the kind of discussion might come from this posting. Even though I heartily disagree with most of the responses, I want to express appreciation to Jim and NY Teaching Vet for their calls for civil discussion. And I ask of all of us that we do our very best to back up what we believe with serious investigation of the factual basis for our opinions.

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At the VERY least they shpuld have to pay out of state tuition rates, agreed on that that? No?

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redweather

August 24th, 2011
6:20 am

Sorry. Your comment is irrelevant.

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“The very wise decision of President Obama”

Obama is not wise. He is an out of touch idealogue who time as Pres will shortly be over and he will be swept into the toilet of history.

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In these types of “illegal immigrant” discussions, one NEVER asks about the elephant in the room: WHY ARE MEXICANS FLEEING THEIR COUNTRY in the first place? Mexico has lots of OIL. The RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD, surpassing Bill Gates’ fortune in 2011, is Mexican. His name is Carlos Slim. Ever heard of him? Many Americans haven’t. It would be worth your time read the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim

Of particular interest is the following quote:
“The Mexican magnate’s growing fortune has caused a controversy because it has been amassed in a developing country where per capita income does not surpass $14,500 a year, and nearly 17% of the population lives in poverty.[21] Critics claim that Slim is a monopolist, pointing to Telmex’s control of 90% of the Mexican landline telephone market. Slim’s wealth is the equivalent of roughly 5% of Mexico’s annual economic output.[22] Telmex, of which 49.1% is owned by Slim and his family, charges among the highest usage fees in the world, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.[23]

According to Professor Celso Garrido, an economist at the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Slim’s domination of Mexico’s conglomerates prevents the growth of smaller companies, resulting in a shortage of paying jobs and forcing many Mexicans to seek better lives north of the Rio Grande.[24]”

So why do American’s put up with this? Why isn’t this man’s wealth REDISTRIBUTED TO HIS OWN PEOPLE? Slim is actually of Lebanese descent. HIS FAMILY WERE IMMIGRANTS TO MEXICO! Granted, by all accounts Slim is a hard-working, intelligent man. Yet he has basically BOUGHT MEXICO! TELL THE VISITING MEXICAN CITIZENS TO GO HOME AND ASK SLIM FOR A HANDOUT! Of course, like all the super-rich, he has a “charitable” foundation. “In 1995 he established Fundación Telmex, a broad-ranging philanthropic foundation. This followed the creation of his eponymous non-profit philanthropic foundation, Fundación Carlos Slim Helú in 1986. In 2007 it was announced that the latter body had an asset base of $4 billion and that it would be establishing Carso Institutes for Health, Sports and Education. Furthermore, it was to work in support of an initiative of Bill Clinton to aid the people of Latin America.[2]”

HEY SLIM! Why don’t you pump an extra $20 BILLION into your FUNDACION CARLOS SLIM HELU and give full scholarships to your FELLOW MEXICAN CITIZENS LIVING NORTH OF THE RIO GRANDE?

WAKE UP AMERICANS! Aren’t you tired of getting FLEECED????????

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“And I ask of all of us that we do our very best to back up what we believe with serious investigation of the factual basis for our opinions.”

You want facts?

Illegal = Illegal
Legal = Legal

This subject cant be tippy-toed around all you want with all the philosophical ramblings, amblings, with “leaders” bloviating and farting all the want. The bottom line is per above.

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Public schools have become welfare agencies and illegal immigration substations. I am so sick and tired of taxpayers footing the bills for terrible parents and illegals. Many of the students on so-called “free lunch” receive SNAP services. Their parents should feed them breakfast and lunch at home. Aren’t they getting funds for this? If they cannot feed them at home, then allotments need to be decreased during the school year. These neglectful parents don’t believe that they are responsible for anything as it pertains to their children. Their childrens’ failures are blamed on teachers, and the government enables these terrible parents by enacting policies and procedures to protect them. As far as non-English speaking students are concerned, federal dollars should not be spent on ILLEGAL children who do not have command of the English language. This is the biggest abuse of taxpayers dollars in the school system. Why is it mandatory for teachers in Georgia to have an ESOL endorsement? No other country forces its teachers to spend their time learning how to teach illegal children. Georgia has placed several unrealistic demands on teachers, but there has been no pay increase. Sounds backward… doesn’t it? Parents in the inner city and illegal immigrants need to step up to the plate and do what they need to do. As long as Georgia continues on this path, this state will retain its place as number 50 in job creation. Teachers will relocate to other states to work. Sen. Chip Rogers and the Republican leadership please do something about this problems

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A child brought into this country by illegal parents should have done what most American taxpaying citizens did, SAVE to pay for their child’s college education. In that time period, well over 15 years, these parents also had the opportunity to apply for citizenship.

The intent is obvious. Illegal aliens are TAUGHT how to cheat the system and have are raising children that have done the same. Criminals raising criminals.

American born children have been witness to the taking, they are not stupid. A 16 year old child said to me not long ago … “illegals have gotten away with breaking the laws, why can’t we”? That is the point I knew that the entitlement disease brought here has infected this country. Those lazy American citizens you speak of have become this way for a reason.

The tide is growing and more and more states (not just in the South) are realizing something has to be done to curtail the disease and decay that is illegal immigration. It has damaged our entire country – our healthcare system, our public schools, our welfare programs. Illegal aliens bought homes with exotic mortgages. The federal government is not telling you the whole truth, but at least the states are finally standing up for the citizens that are demanding radical change.

This is not a Southern thing, many of my friends and relatives that don’t have to deal with this illegal on a daily basis have finally seen the light. Blacks like myself and LEGAL immigrants are rising in numbers against this illegal entitlement.

We bought their story of sorrow – hook, line and sinker! We can no longer afford to be polically correct or compassionate. We have been taken advantage of and they continue to want more. The land of the “Free For All” – that is America today. Our country will continue to spiral downhill if we allow the entitlement disease continue. Our nation cannot survive with major change to our immigration policies!

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We have to draw a line somewhere. Unfortunately, bad things happen in life. That’s a reality. Georgia cannot afford to pay the way to educate folks that have no way of contributing to our tax base once they graduate. If they are here illegaly how are they going to find legitimate employment? Are we preparing them to go back to their home country with an American education, thus diminishing our global edge? Shouldn’t this be the responsibilty of their native land? Other countries have restrictions. We need to do the same.

Also, I wonder how many highly qualified engineering majors Georgia Tech had to turn away vs how many average Political Science or Psycholgy majors the other public colleges are dealing with.

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Sarah says: ” I don’t think these kids are acting entitled. They’ve worked just as hard as their classmates and just want an opportunity to be part of this great country.”

They aren’t asking to be a part of this great country. They are asking to be granted entrance to Georgia’s most prestigious colleges. That’s more than being a part. That’s being entitled. They are allowed entrance to Georgia’s other 30 colleges.

My heart goes out to anyone who works and wants to succeed but the reality is that we cannot afford to feed, educate and provide health care and benefits to illegal aliens because we cannot even afford to do it for own own citizens.

If the situation were different and this was 1939 and a group of human beings were in fear for their very lives, as what happened in Nazi Germany to the Jews, then sure, I’d do whatever it took to save them from murder.

The situation here is the bulk of these illegal aliens are from Mexico. They don’t need amnesty as the Jews did in the earlier part of last century.

Illegal aliens cost tax paying Georgians millions and millions of dollars we cannot afford to pay. Many of these illegal aliens are planned. A nice term for it is “maternity tourism.” Mexicans plan to come here, become pregnant and create an “anchor baby” which ties them to the United States where they strain our already few resources.

GM

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Doris says “Illegal aliens are welcomed when we look for people to cut our grass, clean our homes, pick our crops, construct our buildings! What a people we are!”

No, they aren’t. Not in my house and not in my office. I routinely get illegal aliens applying for nanny positions with me and they apply for landscaping positions. My answer is “show me your papers.”

I don’t hire illegal aliens at work and I sure won’t do it in my own home. I routinely seek out an employ college students to help me domestically as my children’s babysitter and when I need help around my home. I want my money to go to someone who is here legally and who is doing something wise with the money — getting an education.

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How about you illegal aliens go back to your own country for your education. Maybe there you can learn the meaning of the word ILLEGAL. If your parents bought you here, take them back with you. The American people are getting a little fed up with illegal immigration and these demonstrations and demands. Every state should have the Arizona, Alabama, Georgia and other state laws to get rid of the illegal aliens. They have NO RIGHT to be here!

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@DR. NO: Just when when I find myself agreeing with you a couple of times (on another topic), you turn just plain old MEAN again with the “lose weight” comment. Must be nice to be “perfect.” Well, at least, I guess, the natural order of things has been restored on this blog. LOL

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Where was the ICE truck during this parade of ailen weasels?

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“Jobs that Americans refuse to do” does not equate to paying a signigficant portion of income taxes. These are the jobs and income levels that TAKE much more than they contribute to our society.

Same argument with public schools. Illegals (mostly) rent and the landlord pays property taxes. Typically these are homes that have the smallest amount of property taxes with multiple families or more children that the average living in said home. Again, they TAKE much more than they contribute.

Heathcare: Again, “the jobs that Americans won’t do” are low skilled jobs that often don’t offer health insurance. Who is paying for this? Fake documents can get you Peachcare, Medicaid, WIC.

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I think these “illegal” students have much better chance to contribute positively to this society than many “legals” do. This policy is so short-sighted – we are assuring to create more burden to the society.

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catlady – go to a trailer park near your 2500 square foot home and locate the single wide with about 20 male mexicans in it – then keep trying to pretend that they are paying property tax, and not causing any impact on quality of life for anybody.

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My Grandparents immigrated from Romania in the early part of the 20th century. They were processed through Ellis Island in NYC. They settled in NYC and became citizens of the US. My Grandfather was a plumber and my grandmother cleaned houses to earn a living. They were productive citizens and loved their new country. Why is it so diificult for our present government to hold all immigrants to the same standard? There is a legal process that is already available to all who wish to come to this country. My grandparents never expected the gov’t to provide them with any financial support because they experienced gov’t control in Romania. They knew that you were never given something that did not requie something of you as an individual. Unfortunately, the freedom we have in our country is becoming a right not to be treasued or respected. We are allowing our most preciuos value to be flushed with the rising tide of the entitlement mentallity. I am saddened by the the lack of courage in our current leadership at all levels.

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Catlady you say” I am hard pressed to figure out the claim that they don’t pay taxes.”

Please read this article. It shows you what illegal aliens cost.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

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“Well, at least, I guess, the natural order of things has been restored on this blog. LOL”

LOL!!

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was cynthia tucker there? or was she busy teaching fiction aka: journOlism to all five of her students? I miss the black bigot. She herself went to the al sharpton school of information and mentored under al himself. or so i’ve been told. yo, cynthia, shout out girl…..yeeeeeeeah.
suibne

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@ Good mother,

If we remove these well qualified “illegals,” replacements are those students who were on the border line, much less qualified, with much better chance of not being able to complete colleges. These “illegals” are not taking seats away from “equally qualified” GA students – only those who are on the border line, thus LESS QUALIFIED.

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@lib in Cobb

Do you not understand that Congress has spoken on this issue also? They refused to pass a bill supporting the policy our arrogant President imposed by fiat.

There’s nothing wise about acting like a dictator. It doesn’t do your cause any good. Actually he’s acting a little like Beverly Hall, claiming its a commission that he has no control over setting policy. The buck never stops on his desk.

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Why not elaborate on the alledged facts in paragraph five. If as you state these demonstrators were born in the U. S. they are U. S. citizens. If they are Citizens of Georgia as well and are othewise qualified, the policy they alledgely demonstrait against does not deny them admittnance, nor does it require them to pay out-of-state tuition rates, What do you think is their real objection?

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Dear Note: I can name another country – England…and it’s practically a third world country. Canada, however, is strict with immigration. Their debt is zero. Their educational system is not overburdened either. Their healthcare free to citizens. Perhaps the U.S. could take a lesson or two from their neighbors to the north! The only lesson we get from our neighbors to the south is lawlessness.

I moved to the U.S. years ago and saw for myself how Hispanics/Latinos get the freebies at the INS office in L.A. Free interpreters, free legal representation, free filings. So, the people who are preaching about how unfair the system is…give me a break!! I was sworn in as a citizen in 2002, and have never looked back. I am a California credentialed teacher and work in a school district where migrant, undocumented workers milk the system for every dime they can. Free breakfast, free lunch, free afterschool daycare, free education. While, it’s true that it is not the kids’ fault, what this sense of entitlement breeds is generation after generation of handouts.

Cradle to grave socialism never gets a society anywhere, and that is exactly what these students are looking for. Sure, there are a few that want a college education. That’s the dream, but why should my children (the children of two working parents who came from low income homes, but saved every dime we had to buy our first home and educate ourselves…because there was NO money for college in the home we grew up in…) have to sacrifice? How is that fair? Wake up America!! Your country is being hijaacked by politicians who strive for the Latino vote.

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Illegal supporters do realize these are a HANDFUL of protesters we are talking about. The reality of this particular situation is that there are very few illegals that are making the grades to attend these schools. Meanwhile, there are HUNDREDS of legal citizens that are denied admission that are equally or better qualified.

The legal citizens that are denied can go elsewhere, even throughout the country because they have more options. The illegals can’t leave GA due to lack of entitlements. So in essence, they are demanding placement that they probably could not get in the first place and now that the space is freed up it makes it look as if they are being denied based solely on immigration status.

Illegal advocates are loosing all of their arguments. One by one the arguments are being riddled with holes. This is another example and another grasp at straws, in a last ditch effort to convince Americans otherwise.

A growing number of Americans across the entire country are against illegal immigration and the states in which they live are demanding change, even if they haven’t been damaged by illegal immigration as we have here in GA.

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Every day I hear about the rights of those from all over the world, especially Mexico and Asian countries, who have entered or stayed in this country illegally. It is funny that as we talk about this there are two Americans in jail in Iran for illegal entry. There are Americans jailed in Mexico for crossing their borders illegally or killed just for being in the country. We, Americans, have no rights when we place our foot on any foreign country’s soil whether legal or illegally. But, we as a country, with arms opened wide, will not enforce our own laws. I don’t agree with Obama and his overlooking the law. If you are not here legally, you should be deported. So where does this madness stop or when do foreigners understand that there are laws and you have to obey them? Whether by choice, with your parents or forced – there are laws. Americans must start to rebuild by joining forces with each other, severe the race and class lines and work together. If not, then those illegal foreigners that feel entitled are going to gain the right to vote (illegally) and boot us out laughing their butts off at how stupid we are. I know people who have lost jobs because employers would rather have cheap immigrant labor than hire citizens. Poster sldkfjslk is right, illegals’ are building the homes, bridges/buildings (state and federally funded projects), plucking chickens and picking crops but that is because legal citizens are not willing to accept low wages and continue to live impoverished. Deport the illegal immigrants, no matter where they are from, and the employers that hire them.

To the kids that feel that their ‘rights’ are being taken away; I can’t say that I am sorry. There is an established program for you to pursue higher education if you COMMIT yourself to America, The Dream Act. But, honestly, I doubt if you want to commit and truly try to make America better. Honestly, I agree with the post that you should blame your parents and they should be the ones trying to fix this not us. Even if it means going to a country, that most of you still embrace and support but know little about, and starting over. I have known foreign students that had to do that because they were brought here young and then told they had to go back and get a student visa and then return for a college education. It is the countries like Mexico (which you are still COMMITTED too) that make it hard on ‘you’ not America. As you have learned in your American government class, there are laws and now you have to live by them.

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The nastiness and ignorance of so many of the comments here make me sick. Immigrants make a huge contribution to our society. To penalize good students for decisions made for them when they were too young to consent is nonsense. Of course these students should be able to access education, so they can further contribute to the state’s well-being. As for the young man quoted, I would be happy to deport any of the negative folks on this board to Mexico, away from the place they have known as home since age two, and see how they fare and how they like it. See how well Georgia agriculture is faring, as immigrant workers won’t enter the state to pick crops following the adoption of draconian laws. U.S. citizens won’t do it. The deal is, as for every group who has ever emigrated here, is that those who first arrive, work low-paying, degrading jobs–often more than one–live in cramped conditions, and skimp to make a better life for their children. If any of you had the gonads to use your real names here, then we could identify roughly when your forebears got here and who they were. Perhaps many of you don’t know about past discrimination against groups now comfortably settled here: look up NINA (No Irish Need Apply).

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@ catlady,

By closing the door for higher education, we perpetuate the cost. These students at our premiere institutions can obtain high-paying jobs, thus contributing much to the society, instead of being welfare dependent like so many of our fellow legal (lazy and unproductive) citizens are. THEY cost us just as much, if not more. Moreover, “illegals” pay at least the state sales tax. Given so many loopeholes for our rich fellow citizens, they might be paying just as much portions of their income as taxes…

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Paddy, while you are about right about my little home, there are only about 4 trailer parks in my county. Many of them are inhabited by aliens, illegal or not. Virtually none of them have bunches of men in them. IF you have a problem like this in your area, you should blame the (American) county for not having a mandatory limit on inhabitants in the trailers or the (American) folks who rent to them. And yes, these folks do pay property taxes. It is included in the rent. Your property taxes do not depend on how many people are living in the property–it could be one, it could be ten. The landlord divides the tax by 12 and charges it with the rest of the rent, and any other extras offered (trash pickup, or water, or yard care). So, you see, your gripe needs to be with the Americans who are permitting (and likely profiting from) this.

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thomas: I agree with you completely. I am in agreement with letting our highly qualified students of any stripe be educated. I am against wasting money on these lazy folks who are entitled to go to college because they breathed their way through high school.

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@ Mocha,

Why do you think their is a revolution sweeping the states to stop illegal immigration?

Easy. Xenophobia. Envy. Entitlement mentality. Misinformation. Short-sightedness. Gullibility.

Should I go on?

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“Easy. Xenophobia. Envy. Entitlement mentality. Misinformation. Short-sightedness. Gullibility.
Should I go on?”

I guess that most Americans are racist in your eyes. You are are calling me, a Black woman, racist as well. Good try thomas!

Should you go on? Sure, keep up the hate that you white self hating liberals keeping trying to perpetuate. If it makes you feel better about your guilt, knock yourself out, thomas!

Are you and that catlady married? Get a room and spare us with your PDA.

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I have a question? Since the states are still taking undocumented(illegals) into custody and holding them for the federal govt to deport, what would happen if the states just provided transportation and dropped them off at Washington, D.C.? Or maybe the great state of California? Is that unlawful to transport an illegal?

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@Sarah 9:56 August 23rd, 2011
9:56 pm

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What exactly did you do to “earn” your citizenship? Get luck enough to be born in the right place at the right time? I don’t think these kids are acting entitled. They’ve worked just as hard as their classmates and just want an opportunity to be part of this great country.”

YOU ARE A COMPLETE NINNY. Maybe you should go to Mexico, Central or South America and see how they treat illegal aliens.

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For those of you that think that an illegal immigrant can become legal, you are wrong. If they could, they would. The law was changed in April, 2002. Prior to that an illegal immigrant could find a sponsor, pay a fine, pass a health exam, pass a background check and then adjust status. George Bush changed the law. The law should be changed back.

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crazy thoughts @ 1:54am -
“Talking about the mistakes of parents, it is clear that people in this state hate beyond comprehension. It is clear that it was all passed onto you from generation after generation.”
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You really believe that wanting people to respect the law is the same thing as hate? I don’t hate illegal immigrants, nor do the vast majority of people I come in contact with every day. We’re just tired of illegal immigrants demanding the same rights as citizens of this country. Like one of the writers said earlier, this 15-year-old kid came to this country illegally when he was two, which means his parents had thirteen years to gain legal status, and yet they did not. I don’t understand why some people on the other side of the argument think we should just welcome these illegals with open arms. If I came onto your property and set up a tent in the back yard, and then started using your power and your water, would you welcome me gladly or would you call the cops? Most sane, law-abiding citizens would call the cops because of someone trespassing on their land. I’m guessing those on the other side of the argument would invite the person in and give them their own room.

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My mother is a German national who has resided in the USA since 1957. My father was a Korean War veteran and married her in 1959. In 2007, my mother’s father became gravely ill in Germany and my mother flew there to attend to him. He passed away a few months later and my mother needed to stay to probate his estate. Long story short, she was out of the country for 15 months. Upon her arrival at Hartsfield, she was summarily detained and put on the next plane to Germany. Two and a half years and over ten thousand dollars later, she finally was able to return to the States, just in time to see my father pass away the next week. She had filed a US tax return every year since 1957, including the year she was stuck in Germany, and had begged the US government to allow her to return due to my father’s kidney disease and need for dialysis.

Immigration laws cannot be subjectively enforced. They cannot force SOME to abide strictly to the laws and others to flaunt their breaking of those laws. It turns my stomach that my mother, who did everything right, was left on the tarmac, but these entitled imbeciles are shrieking about rights they haven’t earned or had the good fortune of being born into.

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It is time for Americans to take care of their own. Not some grown up anchor baby who funded his illegal parents activities through becoming an entitlement parasite and passing on food stamps, etc. We are making a bad thing worse by catering to these blights on society!

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No one is saying the illegal immigrants cannot attend college. They just have to pay out of state tuition. If my children attend college in another state we have to pay out of state tuition. I am sick of this whole mess. Yes, my ancestors immigrated to the US, but they did it legally through Ellis Island. Alot of the immigrants do not want to learn our language. Just visit my neighborhood. No one speaks English there.

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Michaela, since when is stopping illegal immigration racist? The only act of racism I see is your lame attempt at playing the racecard.

Illegal aliens are not a race. They are here illegally and they ALL need to be deported.

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Reality Check….I would not steal from someone else! That is for sure.

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The use of the term undocumented makes it sound like a clerical error.

How about, “no sir. I did not steal this TV, it is simply unpaid for.”

I think that a fitting analogy since what the “undocumented” are attempting to do is to steal citizenship.

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According to a 2010 cost study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the estimated annual total of the costs related to illegal immigration that taxpayers must bear on the federal, state and local levels in $113 BILLION. Of that, $84 BILLION at state and local levels. This breaks down to approximately $1,000 per tax-paying American household. An average 27 percent of this dollar figure has to do with the administration of justice, while 16 percent are public assistance expenditures. Twenty-one percent go to medical care and an estimated seven percent support education.

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“No easy answer here, but I do wish people could share their thoughts respectfully, and from the heart.”

I believe everyone here is talking from the heart just not as liberal heart as you want.

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There is a legal process for becoming a citizen, contrary to earlier statements by some posters. It may not be easy, but what in life is easy?

See this State Dept. link:
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=dd7ffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=dd7ffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

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@ Mike

I am sure many people will “love” me for this, but here goes. The whole Native/African/Irish/Mexican/Hispanic/Etc. American labels irritate me. I will continue to call individuals be whatever designation they wish to be courteous, but let’s not pretend that Native Americans have any more legitimate claim to America than the European whites that invaded. Our current Native American tribes were very brutal and warlike to each other and what about the cultures that were here before? Oh yeah, the Native Americans just “evolved” from these people, no conquest there. I am horrified at what the white settlers and US government did to the Native Americans. The atrocities perpetrated by men on other men are nothing new. I’m sure the roman Empire peacefully annexed the British Isles a thousand years ago. I am mostly English-Irish so do I get eat free at Olive Garden? At what point does the past become… the past? For the Cherokee, it is 1/8. I am only documented 1/16, so I can’t open a casino. As all teachers can see, kids pay for the choices of their parents all the time. That said, there should be some way for minor children of illegal immigrants to gain legality, without benefiting the parents that broke the law. I am not smart enough to know what that is. We are a nation of laws, at least for the commoners. Rich and powerful folks have always done what they want, when they want , how they want. occasionally, some rich, power broker does goes too far and gets smacked down. The dummies that think it matters if they are Republican, or Democrat need to wake up.

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Its sad how many of you think.
I came here illegally at age of 9, my parents worked and started there own business, My parents are still illegal, yet they pay taxes, do donations and pays for 12 other US Citizens college tuition, and they ask nothing in return, just to maintain a B average. The 12 US Citizens that we help, are: 9 White, and 3 African Americans, we can not help any Latinos, because they can not get into college because of there legal status, yet we know many that graduated with 4.0 GPA.

Its not simple becoming a Citizen, We believe that everyone has the right to have an education, that is why we paid for other peoples tuition. My dad make more than 3 million dollars a year, and we do not have “papers” but it doesn’t mean that we take other peoples jobs, that we don’t pay taxes.

Please open your eyes people, its not segregation is it?

“An eye for an eye only ends up making the world blind”

If you guys have nothing positive to say, than please don’t say anything. Do not pretend that you know everything.

SAD, SAD, SAD………

God Bless You All.

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I’m not an immigration lawyer, but I don’t think you’re right that there is a legal path for becoming a US citizen for a vast majority of illegals in this country (i.e., blue collar laborers, including construction workers, farm workers, etc.). The link you attach to your post is for the US naturalization test, but you can only take that test and go through other steps to become a US citizen if you have already been in this country legally for five years. And basically there is no way for most illegals to get into this country legally. The work visas that exist are essentially all for higher level jobs (not laborer jobs), and those visas are typically obtained by the employer who pays an immigration law firm to get those visas. But there are no visas available for laborers, so these people cannot ever get into this country legally in the first place. So it’s not just a matter of passing a test, or going through certain hoops. There really is no legal way for laborers to become US citizens.

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SLDKFJSLK, re 23 August, 11:36 pm: This is the Ole Guy ignoring the foolishness of an apparent looser who has absolutely nothing of substance to offer; whose confusing nom de plume makes about as much sense as those words of veiled dispair. If, sir/mam, you are unhappy with yourself, as your words seem to scream, you might find solace in the knowledge that…NO ONE GIVES A DAMN!

have a good day

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@ Ole Guy. I think that SLDKFJSLK, 23 August 11:36 pm, is not at all despairing or unhappy, but warning that the “anchor babies” of the presently despised illegal immigrants will be citizens in abt. 10 years and wreak vengeance on those who treated his/her parents so badly. It will be a brown America then, with a very long memory.

Many have this fear/hope. Our country is inexorably changing.

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After reading through these posts from alleged teachers who try to rationalize the illegal alien breaking our laws, it makes me understand how they can rationalize grade inflation, cheating on tests, and other unethical (and perhaps, illegal) activities.

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“warning that the “anchor babies” of the presently despised illegal immigrants will be citizens in abt. 10 years and wreak vengeance on those who treated his/her parents so badly. It will be a brown America then, with a very long memory. Many have this fear/hope. Our country is inexorably changing.”

How are these anchor babies going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the birth certificate they are carrying around is real? Illegal immigrants have a nasty habit of creating and forging fake documents. If our own President can be hounded ad naseum by a group of kooks, what makes you think that illegals and or their anchor babies have any hope?

I am one of those that have recently changed my tune in regards to illegal immigrants. Threats and hate language like yours, FYI, is the main reason I changed. Your twisted logic and that of other supporters is highly suspect.

The only reason that you and a shrinking number of Americans support illegal immigration is purely political. Illegals give you a lower class of people that increases your status. Supporting illegals gives you a false sense of security that they will vote Democratic and support socialism. Or is it the conservatives ideals you simply wish to oppose?

FYI – I feel sorry for you and the hate you promote!

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Maureen, I think your commenters have spoken……all illegals should be deported. Please send this “Blog Link” to the White House to let the annointed one know how “Legal American Citizens” feel…..he doesn’t seem to be getting it. Thanks!!!!!

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Some of you are unsympathetic idiots!!! Logistically and financially, U.S. are idiots!! We spend thousand of dollars educating non-documented students k-12. We even provide free lunch and breakfast and transportation adding up to tens of thousand if not millions. Then, at age 18, the very students we educated, we tell them to go home. Thee students look at us and say, “I am home.” Can’t you comprehend this fact? It is a lose-lose situation for America.

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“They’re taking away the education that we have a right to.”

No Chico, “they” is me and my fellow citizens of the United States, and you do not have a “right” to a college education @ our expense. Go through the legal process to become a citizen, than and only then will you have a “right”.

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@proud liberal,
The main objection I have is that it is UNFAIR to those who have been waiting in line to enter legally. That’s it; I am not racist or xenophobic or uncompassionate. I also think it is unfair to the rest of the third world who haven’t broken the law, but have pitiful stories also. WE CANNOT TAKE IN THE WHOLE THIRD WORLD, but they are coming if we do not start enforcing our borders. What is to stop them?

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Where are the old Kent State guards when you need them?

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Catlady, I absolutely agree with you:
August 23rd, 2011
9:21 pm
“We should be turning over every rock looking for really smart, motivated kids, instead of the entitled, lazy citizen kids so many parents are turning out.”

Illegal immigrants are beating out American students for college? That’s impressive academic achievement! We are required by law to teach any student K – 12, and prohibited from asking about their immigration status. Why are we turning it off at college? To guarantee a sub-par work force?

We should be grateful that hardworking, intelligent people still want to come to the U.S. despite some solid efforts by our own population to destroy things.

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So here are some questions…
Georgia has some very strict anti-illegal immigrant rules now.
So will this translate to higher standard of living for Georgians in a few years? Will this translate to lower property taxes and lower state taxes for me since the assumption is that illegals were to blame for higher taxes? Will this translate to lower unemployment for Georgians??

Back in the early 1990s with a Democratic President and no wars, most Americans were fat and happy with jobs. There were illegal immigrants back then just like now.

Now that the economy is in shambles, we are wasting tons on money on wars, we have intellectually bankrupt politicians……we just need to find a scapegoat to blame this on.

So lets blame it on the illegal aliens,,specially the ones that came to the country as infants or teens. Is this the new American way?

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Unless we can respect and enfore the “rule of law” we are left with anarchy. Just the situation where illegal aliens declare they have the “rights” of US citizens and are entitled to anything they can get here in the US!

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Deb Chasteen

August 24th, 2011
1:05 pm

Deb, relative of Harry Belafonte?

Mocha Jones, very nice, very nice indeed!

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ex aps teacher: re “Back in the early 1990s with a Democratic President and no wars”, most of the economic prosperity came after the president’s and his wife’s policies proved so extremely unpopular that the Republicans were elected to the House and Senate in such great numbers that the long standing Democratic majority in Congress was finally overturned. Even then, by the end of the second term he handed over a recession to his successor. Big difference being the successor put in place policies that brought us out of the recession within a year, as opposed to the current occupant of the White House. Maybe long-term economic malaise and persistently high unemployment were the “changes” that the Socialists were talking about.

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@Rick 5:22, Well said. If the incentives are removed, illegal immigration will be less of an issue.
Presently, a k-12 education is provided without proof of citizenship, I don’t agree with that policy.

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@ Rick,

I am absolutely sure you always obey speed limits, never “borrowed” a pen from your work, report every single penny you earn including money you won in a frienly wager with your office co-workers, etc.

@ Mocha,

“Stop threating American citizens with hate words. Please take a look at yourself and the true reason you support illegals. It has nothing to do with compassion” Oh, tell me my reason for supporting these students? I suppose you know I think you are a racist, and you know exactly what I am thinking.

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I am outraged that illigals get to “pick and choose” which of OUR Laws they adhere to. As an American citizen, if I break the Laws, I must pay the price. The parents should be held responsible for “breaking our Laws when they brought thier children here illiagally. ” Its not about any race, it’s about doing things the legal way. If I was in Mexico I would be forced to abide by thier Laws, or I can bet you I would pay the price!!!!! Kathy

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@Proud Liberal,
Why should we make illegals legal in order for them to take the construction jobs many of our own citizens want?
Why should we allow illegals to break line and get in front of all those who are legally waiting in line in order to immigrate?
If we allow all illegals to stay, do we take in all third world folks who would also like to attend our schools, draw welfare, and use the emergency health care system? Is there a limit to the number at all in your mind, and how will you enforce it?
Fair, to me, is that the rules apply to everyone. You know what fair is; you don’t want fair. You want favoritism for Hispanics who break the law. Why do you want favoritism for this particular group?

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@ reality check,

Why do you want to accept foreign nationals (legal or illegal) into US military services? Would you want the services to accept a muslim of Middle Eastern origin? How come it is ok for the US military services not to require a proof of citizenship but not ok for a state university? Why not firefighters? Police? Doctors? Engineers?

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@ Reality,

Your notion of “fairness” is what 4-year olds have – everyone must receive the same. Our society is not built on such a notion. We give “favoritism” all the time – sometimes we write laws favoring some groups over the other – like heterosexuals by defining “marriage” as one man and one woman.

I, however, do believe that policies (and laws) should be made with much more practical and pragmatic concerns. Those students who the Dream Act would affect are more likely to make positive contributions to our society than many of our citizens. Why not give them the legal status? I don’t remember every singling out “Hispanic,” as you did, but I also think many of these “illegals” are hard working people – unlike some of our welfare dependent citizens. You seem to think only “lazy” people like those welfare-dependent US citizens will come to this country if we let them freely come to the US. If they are lazy, why would they even bother coming to the US? For free health care? Why would they worry about it if they aren’t sick right now? Just because they come from the third world countries doesn’t mean they are willing to work hard. Why should we keep them in the situation where some business owners can abuse them? Let the business owners pay the same wages/taxes. Let them pick the ones who work hard and benefit their businesses – not based on citizenships.

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@proud liberal,
Name-calling is the venue of 4 year olds; I am in the demographic group who decides elections. I belong to neither party, have voted for both in the past, consider myself to be an independent, and try to look at issues fairly. This group in the middle often casts the deciding votes in a close election. If you care about this issue, you should not insult the folks in the middle; we are the only ones willing to have a discussion. The other two groups have already made up their minds, pro and con.
What percentage of the Dream Act would apply to non-Hispanics?

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@proud liberal,
If employers were forced pay all workers the same, the incentive to hire illegals would be gone. We do not have enough jobs for our citizens who work in construction; there is no labor shortage in that industry.
Are you not aware that many illegals benefit from social services that are not available in their home countries because of the cost? Some examples would be schools, food stamps, subsidized housing, health care and welfare. We cannot afford an unlimited number of illegals using these services. Why do you think they come here in the first place?

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@ Reality,

I have no problem providing education to children of illegal for a pragmatic reason – uneducated children of illegal will further burden our systems. We already have enough of native bums who have become huge burdens for the society.

What I don’t understand is how they end up getting things such as food stamps and housing subsidies. It seems like we should be requesting our municipal and state government to check the eligibility of those who apply for those benefits instead of asking colleges and universities. Perhaps if they are getting paid fair wages, then they might not have to depend on those welfare programs. I know some LEGAL immigrants who cannot get these benefits because they don’t qualify.

You keep bringing up construction workers, but the starting point of this discussion is about those college students who have otherwise qualified to be admitted to these prestigious institutions. I doubt many of the would end up being construction workers. Their parents may have been, but not most of these students.

As for the “middle” group (politically), it can be argued that THEY are the ones that led this country into the mess because they don’t stick with one or the other. Maybe they had stuck with the Republicans, we would have been in a better position. OR, we would have been in a much worse situation so that we know for sure that the Republicans are just a bunch of wackos. We keep going back and forth, wandering aimlessly while those who have the means continue to enrich themselves.

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This law is in no way a race issue. It applies to any illegal alien regardless of where he or she is from. There are illegal alliens here from all over the world (they are brown, yellow and WHITE). And I suspect they come for a varity of reasons however the one thing that they all have in common is that they are here ILLEGALLY!

It is illegal for an illegal alien to work in the US. Why would any Georgia tax payer want to invest in an education for an illegal alien who, after graduation for a Georgia college, could not work inthe US?

We would be better served by investing in our own sons and daughters and returning the illegals to their home countries.

UGA class of 1973/1983

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@Proud Lib, Try as you may, you just don’t get it. You honor those who have broken the law in coming here and in the same breath say that the people who have become slaves to the government welfare system (which the Democratic party fully supports) won’t do the jobs. In essence, you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Reality makes a point that most conservative and liberals who are entrenched in their ideology they want what their group wants. Independents review the information and decide Democrat or Republican, which is the best. So, in close elections, Reality is right on the money, Independents are the King or Queen makers.

Remove the government incentives for all education and aid for illegal aliens and the problem will can be resolved. Otherwise, just open the border to everyone, coming and going, and all those in need will arrive. You can have a full time job taking care of them. I’ll take what I have and start over in another country.

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@ Johndoemo. Read the news story on top of this blog. They’re only barred from UGA, Georgia Tech, Georgia State University, Georgia College & State University and the Medical College of Georgia. They can attend any of the other USG schools if they pay out-of-state tuition.

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So, What would happen to me if I went to Mexico and tried the same thing?

– The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

– If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.

– Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment.

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