The real story out of this year’s PISA results released this morning will be the remarkable performance by students in Shanghai, who took the international benchmark tests for the first time and outscored the world, suggesting that the Chinese model of rigorous education may hold lessons for the rest of us.
One of those lessons won’t go over well in many Georgia schools: Less sports and more studying. I question whether it is possible to recreate our school system in the Chinese model, which is a no-frills, academic-focused approach that will likely seem grim to many U.S. parents. Whenever I go to hearings on school reforms, parents ask for more arts classes, not fewer.
Yet, what has allowed the Chinese students to leap ahead is a singular focus on core academics. I am certain that many people would argue that these students lose out when the arts education is reduced for more math review.
As a parent, I have to ask if I want my own kids at desks for hours on core basics with few opportunities for music, art, drama and band.
Is that what it takes to lead the world? And if so, where does it lead to ultimately?
Here is the New York Times’ take on the how and why of the incredible Chinese success on this highly regarded international test:
American officials and Europeans involved in administering the test in about 65 countries acknowledged that the scores from Shanghai — an industrial powerhouse with some 20 million residents and scores of modern universities that is a magnet for the best students in the country — are by no means representative of all of China.
About 5,100 15-year-olds in Shanghai were chosen as a representative cross-section of students in that city. In the United States, a similar number of students from across the country were selected as a representative sample for the test.
Experts noted the obvious difficulty of using a standardized test to compare countries and cities of vastly different sizes. Even so, they said the stellar academic performance of students in Shanghai was noteworthy, and another sign of China’s rapid modernization.
The results also appeared to reflect the culture of education there, including greater emphasis on teacher training and more time spent on studying rather than extracurricular activities like sports.
“Wow, I’m kind of stunned, I’m thinking Sputnik,” said Chester E. Finn Jr., who served in President Ronald Reagan’s Department of Education, referring to the groundbreaking Soviet satellite launching. Mr. Finn, who has visited schools all across China, said, “I’ve seen how relentless the Chinese are at accomplishing goals, and if they can do this in Shanghai in 2009, they can do it in 10 cities in 2019, and in 50 cities by 2029.”
The test, the Program for International Student Assessment, known as PISA, was given to 15-year-old students by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a Paris-based group that includes the world’s major industrial powers.
In math, the Shanghai students performed in a class by themselves, outperforming second-place Singapore, which has been seen as an educational superstar in recent years. The average math scores of American students put them below 30 other countries.
PISA scores are on a scale, with 500 as the average. Two-thirds of students in participating countries score between 400 and 600. On the math test last year, students in Shanghai scored 600, in Singapore 562, in Germany 513, and in the United States 487.
In reading, Shanghai students scored 556, ahead of second-place Korea with 539. The United States scored 500 and came in 17th, putting it on par with students in the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, the United Kingdom and several other countries.
In science, Shanghai students scored 575. In second place was Finland, where the average score was 554. The United States scored 502 — in 23rd place — with a performance indistinguishable from Poland, Ireland, Norway, France and several other countries.
Mark Schneider, a commissioner of the Department of Education’s research arm in the George W. Bush administration, who returned from an educational research visit to China on Friday, said he had been skeptical about some PISA results in the past. But Mr. Schneider said he considered the accuracy of these results to be unassailable.
“The technical side of this was well regulated, the sampling was O.K., and there was no evidence of cheating,” he said.
Mr. Schneider, however, noted some factors that may have influenced the outcome. For one thing, Shanghai is a huge migration hub within China. Students are supposed to return to their home provinces to attend high school, but the Shanghai authorities could increase scores by allowing stellar students to stay in the city, he said. And Shanghai students apparently were told the test was important for China’s image and thus were more motivated to do well, he said.
“Can you imagine the reaction if we told the students of Chicago that the PISA was an important international test and that America’s reputation depended on them performing well?” Mr. Schneider said. “That said, China is taking education very seriously. The work ethic is amazingly strong.”
If Shanghai is a showcase of Chinese educational progress, America’s showcase would be Massachusetts, which has routinely scored higher than all other states on America’s main federal math test in recent years.
But in a 2007 study that correlated the results of that test with the results of an international math exam, Massachusetts students scored behind Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. Shanghai did not participate in the test.
A 259-page Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development report on the latest Pisa results notes that throughout its history, China has been organized around competitive examinations. “Schools work their students long hours every day, and the work weeks extend into the weekends,” it said.
Chinese students spend less time than American students on athletics, music and other activities not geared toward success on exams in core subjects. Also, in recent years, teaching has rapidly climbed up the ladder of preferred occupations in China, and salaries have risen. In Shanghai, the authorities have undertaken important curricular reforms, and educators have been given more freedom to experiment.
By Maureen Downey, for the Get Schooled blog
113 comments Add your comment
j nes
December 7th, 2010
9:52 am
I think the success in China is driven by the dire economic situation many Chinese families find themselves in. In China, being poor does not mean receiving government assistance to the point of comfortable living. America might have some poor people, but I know students that qualify for free lunches that also own X-boxes and cell phones. These are the same students that complain about not being able to type an essay because they do not own a computer. How many Chinese parents do you think would buy their children gaming devices and social tools before investing in their education?
Johnny Too Good
December 7th, 2010
10:04 am
2 different cultures, each with their own values and mentalities
unfortunately, in America it doesnt always appear that education isnt very high up on our list of important things
Atlanta1
December 7th, 2010
10:04 am
j nes – your accessment is ‘fair’. I have traveled to China many-many times. The motivation there is very different than here. First and foremost, what we consider poor, most in China would love to have. Their motivation is simple – education = a better life. And frankly, being educated is ‘cultural’. School is appreciated there. It beats getting up and going to the farm or the factory. Remember, there are 1.3B Chinese. That’s four times the size of our population and while with a solid economy, one that doesn’t come close to giving all of their people a life remotely close to what we live. If you have the chance to learn in that society – ‘you learn’ and improve yourself and your ‘very thank-you’.
me
December 7th, 2010
10:14 am
Manipulation of numbers and statistics, filtering of who gets an education and takes the tests, etc.
j nes
December 7th, 2010
10:18 am
@ me:
Don’t the Atlanta Public Schools do the same thing?
high school teacher
December 7th, 2010
10:20 am
We cannot change education in America until we can change the culture. However, we won’t change the culture until we change education; a catch-22.
I think that j nes really hit the nail on the head.
ridiculous
December 7th, 2010
10:26 am
It is a dictatorship you idiot. That is the secret.
Dr. Proud Black Man
December 7th, 2010
10:26 am
“Forget Finland. What’s China’s secret to success?”
Why you using a communist state as a model for education?
Whatever
December 7th, 2010
10:28 am
j nes ~ 100% spot on. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen parents fill out the free lunch application, then get into a Lexus.
gatorman770
December 7th, 2010
10:31 am
Simple solution – bust the fanatically progressive teachers unions that are more interested in maintaining there power and brainwashing our “utes” with their progressive agenda!
Avery
December 7th, 2010
10:31 am
The secret is that the incentives are different. If you do a crappy job in school, you end up barely sustaining yourself in a rice field.
However, I am not convinced that such a rigid educational model is ideal. Many Chinese students have problems thinking creatively and problems questioning the existing body of academic work. It may be more appropriately labeled “memorizing” and not “learning”.
gatorman770
December 7th, 2010
10:33 am
Pardon the typo above, should be “maintaining their power….”
GRJ
December 7th, 2010
10:33 am
Well if you are born a girl – they pretty much get rid of you. A boy is brainwashed into thinking if they don’t succeed, they could have the same thing happen to them. Boys have to honor their parents, elders or else! Brainwashing and who knows what else their “culture” allows.
j nes
December 7th, 2010
10:36 am
Avery, I agree that “skill and drill” education leads to more memorization than actual creative problem solving, but without basic core skills as a foundation, problem solving and creative thinking will not happen either.
SMN
December 7th, 2010
10:46 am
Education is not just about academics and scoring highest on a test. Education is about preparing a child for life in the “real” world. The real world is not sitting in a row of desks filling out scantrons and trying to out-test all of the other countries. Schools should not just be about that either. Maybe the selected Chinese students are awesome at Calculus, but how are their social skills? The US does have many problems in our education system, but at least we see education as a right that everyone has, not just the smart kids.
teacher&mom
December 7th, 2010
10:49 am
@Maureen,
Read through the posts on this blog for a different perspective on China.
http://zhaolearning.com/category/blog/
GL
December 7th, 2010
10:55 am
The Chinese have a very disciplined culture and their priorities are in the right place. More Americans students should have a more disciplined life at home as well as at school and reevaluate their priorities instead of complaining about how much homework they have. (Well, you know, homework interferes with Playstation and hanging out with friends.) The Chinese have the right idea.
j nes
December 7th, 2010
10:58 am
@SMN
Apparently America’s education system is not preparing students for the real world. Were the multitudes of people that took out mortgages they could not afford prepared for the real world? Did the investors that over-leveraged the banks have a working knowledge of the real world?
As far as social skills go, if you consider “txtng 2 ur bff” during class, or while driving a leap forward forward for American society, then I guess you are right.
R.I.P. APS
December 7th, 2010
10:59 am
Shhhh…don’t tell anyone the great secret: Genetics and its resulting culture.
A. Hilter
December 7th, 2010
11:04 am
Duh
No Knee Grows
Me
December 7th, 2010
11:05 am
Were the students from our sample only our brightest and most motivated? I assure they were from the other countries.
It suits our politicians and education gurus to promote the fallacy that we are woefully behind in education due to all the money that gets poured into the sieve of reform and restructuring of our system. If we were #1 there would be no reason to spend all that money.
The sampling is taken from students aged 15 years. Freshman or sophomores in the US system. We don’t screen out our lower performers by this age as do most every other country you realize. We will always be ‘penalized’ on scores such as this due to our all inclusive educational system.
However, it is this all inclusive system that makes this country great in many, many ways.
David Sims
December 7th, 2010
11:06 am
Look carefully at the accompanying picture showing a Chinese classroom. How many non-Chinese do you see? None. More to the point, how many persons from low-IQ races do you see? None. A similar photo showing an American classroom would be much more rainbowy, and as pleasing as racial jambalaya might be to leftist aesthetic tastes, it is very much a disadvantage in academic competitions.
“So high is the level of education in our country that Japan’s is an intelligent society. Our average score is much higher than those of countries like the U.S. There are many blacks, Puerto Ricans and Mexicans in America. In consequence the average score over there is exceedingly low… There are things the Americans have not been able to do because of multiple nationalities there. On the contrary, things are easier in Japan because we are a monoracial society.” Yasuhiro Nakasone, Prime Minister of Japan, 1986.
Nakasone’s comments raised such a furor in the West that the Japanese Prime Minister thought it expedient to issue an apology. However, Nakasone thought that the problem was his earlier remarks were misunderstood, and while apologizing for any offense he had given, clarified his thoughts, which only got him in more difficulty with American leftists. But, whether the lefties like it or not, Yasuhiro Nakasone was right. And now in Shanghai, China, we see yet further proof that Nakasone was right.
Notice, also, that in Europe the countries that lead the scores are the ones which have had the least non-white immigration.
Dr. Tim
December 7th, 2010
11:08 am
100% support by Chinese parents of the educational efforts of the Chinese government. Anything less than 100% and you’re shot.
Clarence
December 7th, 2010
11:10 am
I was under the impression that the Chinese didn’t educate everyone? Doesn’t that change the comparison quite a bit?
All in the Family
December 7th, 2010
11:11 am
Just look at the difference in our family structures and you’ll find the answer. The main thing that has changed right along with our dismal public education system is the family. The tradtional family has been disappearing from the landscape alongside our eduction system. Chinese for the most part have a respect their elders and to take care of them. Just look at some of the US -Asian households and who lives all in one home – multiple generation of the same blood.
The traditional family here in the US is polically incorrect. Single parents, same sex families are more en vogue and being different is seen as being a positive trend. Do you see those same things happening in the Asian culture, only when they get here and get hooked on the American culture.
And just look at how many different cultures that our public schools are trying to educate. We are bending over backwards to be tolerant to their culture on US soil all while the education system comes in second place. We cannot continue to be all things to all people, our failed modern immigration policies are a huge part of the equation as well.
We only have ourselves to blame for this.
Dave
December 7th, 2010
11:12 am
Perhaps Americans are just not as intelligent.
mystery poster
December 7th, 2010
11:14 am
In China, middle school students take high school entrance exams to see what high school they are eligible for. Classes and extra-curricular activities stop the week before the exams so that students can spend the time to study for them. The high school that they attend is dependent upon their scores on this exam.
So, which high schools were sampled for the survey?
All in the Family
December 7th, 2010
11:15 am
“Shhhh…don’t tell anyone the great secret: Genetics and its resulting culture.”
Couldn’t agree more! Our gene pool here in the US is not looking too good.
communism is all bad
December 7th, 2010
11:16 am
just like the GOP or Sarah Palin will tell you – ad nauseum – there is nothing good about communism. But the problem is – China is no longer communist… the economy there is in many ways freer than than in the US!
All in the Family
December 7th, 2010
11:16 am
“Perhaps Americans are just not as intelligent.”
Define “Americans” and there is your answer!
mystery poster
December 7th, 2010
11:19 am
@Gatorman
You DO know that in the United States, the states with teachers’ unions do better educationally than those without, don’t you?
Audrey in GA
December 7th, 2010
11:21 am
Enter your comments here
Robinson
December 7th, 2010
11:25 am
It’s always amusing whenever someone mention Asian countries outperforming the US, we see hundreds of excuses. Don’t educators have any sense of wonder or desire to learn what others may be doing?
On the other hand, I am concerned about holding up places like Shanghai, Singapore, or even Finland, as a “model” for the US as the sheer size of the US makes the whole process of changing education so different. When a country can provide professional development workshops for ALL their elementary school teachers – like Singapore does – you see the difference. Now, on the other hand, some aspects of what Singapore, Shanghai, Finland etc. do might be useful for individual districts – if educators are open minded enough.
Really amazed
December 7th, 2010
11:31 am
This article needs to be part of the “SuperKids” article. First we say parents are pushing too much in one article, then we say other countries don’t even get that option… these kids have been and will be pushed to perfection!!!! What truly is the happy balance??? Another thing, if China is doing so great, why has my son’s school have so many foreign exchange students over here from China and Korea that end up being valdect. year after year. These are the students that will take up our top college spots. Not americans. Then we are accused of pushing our own children. Well this is one of the reasons why. We are allowing other students from other countries to take over our own students. One of the main reasons parents feel the need to push!!! We are being booted out by far more pushy parents that aren’t from this country.
teacher&mom
December 7th, 2010
11:31 am
“The result is that Chinese college graduates often have high scores but low ability. Those who are good at taking tests go to college, which also emphasizes book knowledge. But when they graduate, they find out that employers actually want much more than test scores. That is why another study by McKinsey found that fewer than 10 percent of Chinese college graduates would be suitable for work in foreign companies.”
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/12/02/what-is-a-college-degree-worth-in-china/high-test-scores-low-ability
historydawg
December 7th, 2010
11:38 am
Sputnik is a fitting reference. It is then that the United States, rather than blaming the industrial-military complex for its failures, chose to blame public education. Thank you, Eisenhower. This refrain has been repeated ever since that time to the detriment of critical thinking and American children everywhere.
The answer is found in a history and culture of memorization, which has dominated Confucian/ Chinese culture for 1000s of years. The value has always been placed on such. Again, the article is meant to alarm, analyzing data but never questioning on which faulty measures the data is based (e.g., GADOE and the obsession with standardized multiple-choice exams).
Audrey in GA
December 7th, 2010
11:40 am
Simple solutions to a perceived complex problem:
1. Uniform dress for all students for every grade level. NO exceptions.
2. Extend school hours, 8:30 – 3 for core academics and 3- 5 for art, music &
physical education activities every day for all students. NO exceptions.
3. Teachers that teach in the morning hours should not teach in the afternoon
unless they are substituting for an absence. Use more teachers!!!!
4. Stop all the excuses why this can not be done and start with the solutions
on how it can be done.
5. Educating a student should never be about the color of the student. It should
always be about the will of the teacher and the presence of the student. When
the two meet, education begins regardless of skin color.
HD
December 7th, 2010
11:46 am
Parents need to be more involved with the school work. In my house, we are starting to spend at least 2-3 hours on Saturday and Sunday studying math and reading. There was a story on 60 Minutes a year ago about a school in Harlem doing the same thing. We need to take education more serious. The government is not going to help us out and by the time they figure out how to fix anything, it wil be to late. As Americans, we can do better if we put our minds to it.
HD
December 7th, 2010
11:48 am
@Audrey in GA:
Amen!
Dr. Proud Black Man
December 7th, 2010
11:55 am
@ A Hitler
“Duh
No Knee Grows”
That’s because they are busy “servicing” your wife and daughter.
@ David Sims
Don’t you have some pizzas to deliver?
sissyuga
December 7th, 2010
11:56 am
In China there is emphasis and pressure in not disappointing elders/teachers/parents. The stress is overwhelming and many students committ suicide if they do not measure up in school.
Rick
December 7th, 2010
11:57 am
Here we say that poor students are disadvantaged.
Well the Chinese disadvantaged will be eating our lunch over the next 3 or 4 decades. The US has become too soft. Our children will not be wanted in the global workforce. They can go back to working in agriculture.
really
December 7th, 2010
12:05 pm
although i believe our education system has many flaws, our scores can never be honestly/fairly compared to those of other countries due to the fact that we do not “track” our kids. when the test scores of special education students are averaged with high-functioning/high-level students, it will obviously bring the average down. most asian countries have already factored the low-functioning students out of the equation…
this is what our “no child left behind” dream has done to our country. :/ no, we should not give up on a child…but we need to realize that not all children are college bound. we must begin to teach our kids REAL WORLD skills!
Wait for It
December 7th, 2010
12:07 pm
Okay, I’ll say it. China doesn’t have religion in schools and silly (yes, I said SILLY) arguments about whether or not to teach creationism, oops, sorry, “intelligent design”, whether to allow prayer and religion classes masquerading as cultural studies simply don’t take place. Make US public schools about core academics and eliminate values education (do it at home or in religious institutions), PE (join a community sports club), music and art (pay for lessons or pay taxes for community programs or support your religious institution to provide them) and you will see dramatic improvements. BUT MAINLY GET RELIGION AND VALUES EDUCATION OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS! Oh, yeah, and fund a serious remedial program for thugs to get them out of the classroom. And differeniate education levels so that the better prepared kids can move on and the lesser prepared kids can catch up.
catlady
December 7th, 2010
12:11 pm
Aw, come on. They could have had ringers take the test over there and no one would know the difference because they all look the same! LOL
We COULD do this, but we won’t because we keep thinking that people should be allowed to improve, to try, to fail. Many of the Asian countries do not give their students that luxury. You fail and you are out of the success loop for once and for all.
In addition to valuing “second, third, etc chances” our country educates everyone, whether they speak English, whether they are nominally intelligent, and we seem to believe that we should “give” them equal outcomes. I think in Asia you’d better use everything you have, no excuses, and no special classes for those who are behind, or who don’t speak the language, or who have other “problems.”
I also am under the impression that the schools are there to EDUCATE, not to provide counseling, nursing, and other social services. Those are to be provided by parents (and they are almost always 2 parent homes).
I am not saying the US couldn’t do better, but it would take some real, fundamental changes in our beliefs and expectations.
Wait for It
December 7th, 2010
12:12 pm
And another thing, China teaches only in Chinese dialects, not the 45 or so foreign languages that immigrants in the US speak and EXPECT to learn their courses in. This is not necessarily a strong point for China, but uniformity in comprehension really does help teachers get their lessons across. It also means there are not millions of dollars spent on teacher salaries and curriculum materials for several different languages. The US needs an effective education program for Spanish speaking kids or else needs to deny them public education because the piecemeal approach we have now it NOT WORKING.
Tony
December 7th, 2010
12:19 pm
While it is imperative that we pay attention to everything China is doing, their educational system is not spectacular at all. Maureen, you of all people should have been quick to notice that their represenation was limited to just a handful of urban centers. There is not a national representation of students because their national system for education STINKS! They are not able to get students into school in the outlying regions where the masses live. While their large cities are providing exemplary educational opportunities for students, overall their educational programs are far worse than you have acknowledged. Please try to put your hands on some of the details that Gerald Bracey put forth prior to his unfortunate passing.
Oh come on
December 7th, 2010
12:22 pm
@Catlady. Your comment about 2-parent households in China does not go far enough. Chinese families are very extended and aunts, uncles, grandparents, and non-blood “aunties” consider it their primary duty to serve the family and boost the outcomes of the children. Everyone’s allegiance is first to the family and sacrifices are made to insure quality child care and supervision at all times in the child’s life. Family members will come from rural areas to provide this support when young families are in the big cities with parents working long hours. There really are no day care centers because families are expected to provide this service.
@sissyuga…Every child lost to suicide is a tragedy, regardless of where they come from. That said, the comment about suicides is largely a myth, based on some sensational cases. There are more suicides among US teens doped up on parent-approved drugs to help control their children. There are more suicides among US teens pining over a lost girlfriend or not getting into an elite college using the handgun that mom ‘n dad keep around. There are more deaths from drunk teen drivings, some of them provided liquor by good ol’ m & d. Stop with the “academics drives Chinese kids to suicide” until you have some FACTS and a comparison with US suicide rates.
Maureen Downey
December 7th, 2010
12:22 pm
@Tony, I participated in a webinar yesterday where I referenced Jerry Bracey and asked about the traits of test takers. The panelists were in agreement that the test takers are representative and not handpicked, and that even Finland, with very few minorities, had to have them represented in the samplings.
Maureen
Oh come on
December 7th, 2010
12:27 pm
@Tony…Who cares if it is the urban centers being tested? There are 100 million kids in those schools, so there will be 100 million kids who have fantastic training, and 350 million who have poor training. But guess what, those 100 million will be the ones who kick our booties, so it doesn’t matter if the others can’t even read (but they can, at least as well as the 10%-20% dropouts in US grades 8-12). That highly educated elite workforce of 100 million Chinese will dwarf our (maybe) 1 million well-educated Americans.