Gwinnett wins prestigious Broad Prize for Urban Education: A validation of its strong superintendent

Congratulations to the teachers, students and administrators of Gwinnett schools. In a ceremony in New York, Gwinnett was just declared the nation’s top urban school system by the Broad Foundation, earning the district a million dollars in student scholarships and its controversial superintendent validation of his strong leadership style.

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan announced the award in front of an audience that included a large Gwinnett contingent.

in New York today, J. Alvin Wilbanks accepted the 2010 Broad Prize on behalf of Gwinnett schools

In New York today, J. Alvin Wilbanks accepted the 2010 Broad Prize on behalf of Gwinnett schools from U.S. Ed Secetary Arne Duncan.

The Broad Prize for Urban Education honors the urban system that has the greatest overall performance and improvement in student achievement while reducing the achievement gap. It is the largest education prize in the country.

“This is a great trip to New York,” said Dr. Alvin Wilbanks, Gwinnett superintendent, thanking his board of education and his central staff. “Let me present to you the real heroes – the two people who make a real difference in the success of students, the teachers and principals. It is not us in the district office — you are the ones who carry out what we are supposed to do. We learned a long time ago that our mission is teaching and learning and that  has caused a sea change in what we do.”

While I know that  Wilbanks has his critics, I have to share a conversation I had last week with a former DOE official. He said that he dealt with the leadership teams of all the districts, and he understood why DeKalb and Atlanta had so many more problems that Gwinnett.

He said Wilbanks assembled a leadership team that was sharp, responsive and together, while the other two systems’ teams were disorganized and non-responsive.

When I need photos of top students or a statement, Gwinnett is the first to respond. From an outside point of view, Gwinnett is well run, efficient and responsive.

So, while Wilbanks may be demanding and, according to his critics, imperious, I have to offer that he is also effective in what matters most: Educating children.

So thought a jury that included former U.S. Education Secretary Rod Paige, former North Carolina Gov. Jim Hunt and former U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros.

An 18-member review board selected the five finalists. Other finalists are Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools, N.C.,  Montgomery County Public Schools, Md., Socorro Independent School District, El Paso, Texas, and Ysleta Independent School District, El Paso, Texas.

Here are some of the statements in support of Gwinnett today:

Gov Perdue: “This national recognition for Gwinnett County Public Schools is well deserved. The school board, Superintendent. Wilbanks and the staff and faculty in Gwinnett have made student achievement their singular focus. Gwinnett was the first Georgia system to sign an IE2 contract, and the system is one of 26 participating in the state’s Race to the Top program. Gwinnett has consistently embraced innovative education policies, and today’s announcement of the Broad Prize award is a direct result of all the hard work put in over the years to raise student performance.”

State Superintendent Brad Bryant: “Congratulations to Superintendent Wilbanks and Gwinnett County Public Schools on receiving the 2010 Broad Prize for Urban Education. This award is a testament to Gwinnett’s commitment to provide every student with an opportunity for success. Gwinnett is a shining example of how high expectations can lead to outstanding student achievement. ”

GAE President Calvine Rollins. “On behalf of the Georgia Association of Educators, we wholeheartedly congratulate Superintendent Alvin Wilbanks and the teachers and education support professionals of Gwinnett County on receiving the prestigious Broad Prize for Urban Education. We especially congratulate our colleagues of the Gwinnett County Association of Educators for their hard work and dedication in ensuring their students receive the great public education to which they’re entitled.”

173 comments Add your comment

usually lurking

October 19th, 2010
12:29 pm

Go Gwinnett!

Oh Please

October 19th, 2010
12:34 pm

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

The other lurker

October 19th, 2010
12:36 pm

Way to go Meadowcreek ES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goal Digger

October 19th, 2010
12:36 pm

Congratulations to Gwinnett and its students!! This is WONDERFUL news:-)

Tammy

October 19th, 2010
12:36 pm

Where does my son apply?

Kristi

October 19th, 2010
12:37 pm

Yay, that’s why we put our children there this year!!

Shoot me now!!!

October 19th, 2010
12:38 pm

God I hate gwinnett….it’s so ghetto!!!

Hummon

October 19th, 2010
12:38 pm

A great school system, but a pretty broad definition of urban.

lovetravel

October 19th, 2010
12:40 pm

It a good school, but later it going become a problem that no one isn’t going to know yet. It’s going to be very way up to the face in Gwinnett. Yes I know it a good school but tooo many student? how can they teach those student in a large class, I don’t know but someone going to find out soon than later

Order Restored

October 19th, 2010
12:41 pm

The caption under the photo says “Broad Price” should that be “Broad Prize”? Do you have spellcheck for education articles?

Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

October 19th, 2010
12:42 pm

Hooray for Gwinnett! That is fantastic! I will pass along to all of Momania!!

art

October 19th, 2010
12:42 pm

Yawn. Best Urban School System. So non-”system” schools were excluded, namely private schools. Best public school system is equivalent to an award for mediocrity. That’s why my child attends Westminster instead of Brookwood. That said, at least Gwinnett has more going for it than Dekalb, Fulton and Cobb.

Go Gwinnett!!!!

October 19th, 2010
12:44 pm

Thanks Gwinnett! Without Gwinnett, Georgia would be dead last in state school rankings. Gwinnett is an oasis of success in a desert of ignorance in our state. What a wonderful role model Gwinnett Schools is for other school districts. Makes me so proud:-)

Putti

October 19th, 2010
12:44 pm

Gwinnett has better school system, I hope they will not mess it up.

APSparent

October 19th, 2010
12:45 pm

Weren’t we signing similar praises about Beverly Hall and APS just a few years ago? Look at us now! This is all so confusing, and, in our case, bogus and corrupt. We’ve had about enough of APS, maybe we will go look in Gwinnett.

KG

October 19th, 2010
12:45 pm

Since when is an affluent suburban county “ghetto”? There are plenty of things negative about Gwinnett (suburban sprawl, traffic, soulless strip malls and subdivisions), but “ghetto” it certainly isn’t. Anyways, congrats to Gwinnett Schools for this honor. Maybe it will light a fire under some of the other metro districts.

Shiloh ES Mom

October 19th, 2010
12:46 pm

Proud day to be a Gwinnett parent….

APSparent

October 19th, 2010
12:46 pm

oh see, that should be SINGING, not signing. I have been here too long…

Maureen Downey

October 19th, 2010
12:47 pm

Nikki

October 19th, 2010
12:48 pm

YAY!!!! I love Gwinnett!! They have really done a great job factoring in growth in the school districts and constantly growing for our community! YAY YAY YAY!!!!!

some sense

October 19th, 2010
12:48 pm

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Kay

October 19th, 2010
12:49 pm

Congrats Gwinnett County School System!!!

some sense

October 19th, 2010
12:49 pm

What place did they come in for gang presence???

Real Blonde 474

October 19th, 2010
12:49 pm

Congrats to Gwinnett but you still couldn’t give me a home in that county. we will stay in Cobb County with Lassiter.

brenda

October 19th, 2010
12:50 pm

Gwinnett is Awesome especially for Special Education students I moved from Ny with an autistic son an he has received awesome care.

A. Thompson

October 19th, 2010
12:50 pm

Great work to the teachers, students & administrative! All the hard work & dedication shows!

Bethesda ES

October 19th, 2010
12:51 pm

Hooray Gwinnett!!

bart

October 19th, 2010
12:51 pm

This is great news. However, I hope the Republicans with their draconian cuts won’t ruin it in the future. Larger class size, fewer teachers, less resources, fewer materials, and less enriching classes will eventually take its toll.

Real Blonde 474

October 19th, 2010
12:51 pm

Sorry but you couldn’t give me a home in Gwinnett and that includes the schools…Y’all can stay out there and I will keep my kids at Lassiter in Cobb County.

Enides

October 19th, 2010
12:52 pm

Proud parent of college kids who went to Nesbit ES, Lilburn MS, Lanier MS, and Mill Creek HS. Congrats to the students, parents, coaches, teachers and administrators!

John

October 19th, 2010
12:53 pm

Great to hear this as I was raised in the Gwinnett system. But I want people to think about it – certainly Gwinnett has a great school system, but if this is the best that the US can come up with, in terms of education, there’s a LOT we need to work on, when we compare ourselves to the other industrialized nations.

Dr NO

October 19th, 2010
12:54 pm

Perhaps the ilk in Fulton County could take a few lessons from the Professionals in Gwinnett County.

Dunwoody Mom

October 19th, 2010
12:56 pm

Text message from my friend who works in GCSS: LOL….

Dewi

October 19th, 2010
12:57 pm

Great job for Gwinnett. Seriously well done.

But isn’t this award for an urban system? Not a suburban, more realistically exurban, system?

Urban is not a good thing!!!

October 19th, 2010
12:57 pm

I would never torture my “white” son by putting him in a school like Central Gwinnett….NO WAY!

Dot

October 19th, 2010
12:58 pm

I have been happy with my children in the Gwinnett School System. Yes, it has it’s faults as do all schools including private schools. My children have thrived in the diversity they are surrounded with and are better prepared to interact with all people because of it!

JSD

October 19th, 2010
12:58 pm

Urban? Really?

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Gwinnett

October 19th, 2010
1:01 pm

I guess people just have to be negative even when it’s something positive…smh

Bev "Cupcake" Hall

October 19th, 2010
1:01 pm

Aw hell naw. They cheated!!! Fulton County should be the winner and even though they dont recognize us we still win. To God be the Glowree!

Milt

October 19th, 2010
1:06 pm

Homes in Gwinnett just got easier to sell – and more expensive at the same time.

Dingy

October 19th, 2010
1:07 pm

So, Gwinnett wins for an “urban” system, but is funded (for QBE) as a “rural” system? Makes perfect sense to me.

Michelle

October 19th, 2010
1:07 pm

At Art: Those of us who do not have the financial means to send our children to “Westminster” or other private schools are very thankful to be able to live in Gwinnett, where at least I believe my son is getting the best the public school system has to offer. I agree that public schools aren’t the best but since so many of us don’t have the option of private school for our children, it’s wonderful to have a public school system like Gwinnett as an option. Don’t be such a snob, calling this an award for “mediocrity.” Why post this on a blog that has NOTHING TO DO WITH PRIVATE SCHOOLS?! In the world of public schools….. Gwinnett has been deemed the best, how is that mediocre?

Asha

October 19th, 2010
1:10 pm

I am about to be negative, and it is well deserved. Gwinnett County’s educational system does not encourage students to grow and develop intellectually or mentally, as individuals, if they do not fit into the academically established box. They do not encourage freedom of thought, they do not foster honor, respect or the highest ideals in life. They simply want students to study the curriculum, pass the tests, and graduate. That is sadly inadequate in the grand scheme of things. Youth need much more intellectually and mentally than to study books so that they can pass exams. They need to be encouraged to grow as free-thinking individuals, to challenge what has been written and established with the intent to go beyond! Oh, and did I mention the infamously inhumane Zero Tolerance law, which effectively and completely kills any tendency to honor and nobility in our youth. But that’s another subject.

Maureen Downey

October 19th, 2010
1:10 pm

Folks, I do have to agree that Gwinnett had to beat some very strong school systems to win this prize, including Montgomery County, Md. (Better luck next year, Dana)
The review panel looked at a lot of factors in choosing Gwinnett, including student performance. I am not sure why there is this continued chorus here that private schools outperform public schools. Some do. Some don’t.
This is Gwinnett’s day.
Let them enjoy it.
Maureen

Bed Bugs

October 19th, 2010
1:17 pm

Nice to see they went to New York. HOME OF THE BED BUGS!

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DeKalb Educated

October 19th, 2010
1:23 pm

It is amazing that Gwinnett did beat Montgomery County in MD. It’s nice to know that a Georgia school system can win a prize in education beside “highest illiteracy rate” or “Most Corrupted School Board”. I hold out hope that DeKalb with strong leadership will hire a superintendent that can weed out the trash at the central office, raise morale among teachers and raise the standards for students. We have the students and parents in DeKalb who are capable and can accomplish these goals. I know we have dedicated teachers. Now, we just need the leadership of an ethical school board who will put aside their need for “diversity” in hiring and hire quality in educational leadership.

Dunwoody Mom

October 19th, 2010
1:24 pm

The Broad Foundation was a sponsor of the obnoxious “Waiting for Superman”…nuff said…

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VP

October 19th, 2010
1:27 pm

If Gwinnett (Duluth, Norcross, Buford, Lawrenceville) is urban, what is suburban? What is APS?

Fred

October 19th, 2010
1:29 pm

Great, Gwinnett wins a prize for good schools and here in Dekalb our Super gets indicted………

sigh………..

But congrats Gwinnett. It’s nice to see a “success” story with so much bad news on ejimikashun in this State.

Fred

October 19th, 2010
1:31 pm

Nice post @ 1:23, Dekalb Educated.

Goal Digger

October 19th, 2010
1:31 pm

No surprise that people have come in here gripping, good grief. The BROAD Foundation gets to choose who its nominees are, so file a complaint with THEM. And while you’re whining “unfair” and other obscenities, stellar, high need Gwinnett students will be laughing all the way to the financial aid office on FULL scholarships :-)

Kiljoy In Duluth

October 19th, 2010
1:32 pm

One bright ray of hope in a Gwinnett. May be the school board and superintendent would consider taking over county government.

The Producer

October 19th, 2010
1:36 pm

To all of the negative commentators,

As a Gwinnett County resident, this is more about our Kids future than where you live. It’s about where we’re going as a society and to stay competitive in the world. So please leave classism and racism comments out this accomplishment. With that said, congratulations goes to a school system that is trying to get it right. A glimmer of hope for future society…….

Grizz

October 19th, 2010
1:38 pm

As a parent who has supported this system, worked with it, criticized it, and still volunteers to help at risk students, all I can say is WOW.

Just Sayin'

October 19th, 2010
1:41 pm

Good job Gwinnet!! Two thumbs up!
I swear some of you are worse than the kid who didn’t get chosen for the lead in 3rd grade the play ~ even if the play gets rave reviews you still sulk because you played the tree and not the princess. Grow up!

JJ

October 19th, 2010
1:42 pm

I specifically moved OUT of DeKalb County to Gwinnett County to get my kid in Gwinnett schools…..She went from Pre-K to high school graduation in Gwinnett!

Way to go Gwinnett!!!!!! I’m very proud!!!!!

HOPEFUL

October 19th, 2010
1:45 pm

Well first of all CONGRATS in order…..Gwinnett County is improving but we need a lot more HELP. Gwinnett County won this monetary award because we are 48th or 49th in the nation when it comes to education. Really…you would think with the large population of migration from all over the country and outside of the country the system would be much better. It’s sad to say that most people are mislead by all the hoopla surrounding the Gwinnett County Clusters but it because our children are almost left behind….when there is a NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND education act. Don’t get me wrong my children attend the schools in Gwinnett County/Collins Hill Cluster and I constantly have to stay on top of their education. Lets spend this money on EDUCATION and not funnel it somewhere else. Our children deserve better…..New text books, music and arts funding, full funding of PE K-12 and continuing education for the educators……they too need to keep up with ongoing education…A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE.

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PRHS MOM

October 19th, 2010
1:51 pm

Gwinnett County’s School System does not meet the needs of the special education students in its school system so how it won any award is beyond me. I as a parent have had to advocate every step of the way to make sure that my special needs child IEP was followed. It is very sad that a system can win an award and not have a handle on their Special Education Department.

Education Insider

October 19th, 2010
1:52 pm

This is a district who knew one of their “Teacher of the Year” teachers’ had seduced one of her students’, bought him alcohol and paid for a hotel room, but allowed her to resign for “medical reasons”. This is one of the best? Really? Berkmar, Central Gwinnett, Dacula and Meadowcreek high schools were deemed “dropout factories” as none could graduate more then 59% of their incoming freshman in four years. Best at what? Spin?

Bibb Dawg

October 19th, 2010
1:52 pm

Gwinnett is considered “urban”??

Zar

October 19th, 2010
1:53 pm

Gwinnett is considered urban? Seriously?

Scott

October 19th, 2010
1:55 pm

Who would have the audacity to put down a MILLION DOLLARS for any school system in this country at this perilous time! GEEZZZZ- people, Get a grip!

theriddler

October 19th, 2010
1:58 pm

Gwinnett’s a landfill for people. It’s a poor reflection on the national level.

Allen

October 19th, 2010
2:01 pm

Dingy (at 1:07) you made my point–if this is a great “Urban” school, they certainly don’t need to keep taking the funds, which are probably less than this award anyway, the state takes from other “Urban” counties to fund “Rural” school systems, under the “Equalization” program.

But I won’t hold my breath.

Texas Pete

October 19th, 2010
2:07 pm

Let’s go a different route stonecasters. Someone name a school system more deserving of the award (especially in Georgia). I’ll sit back and watch.

Kate

October 19th, 2010
2:07 pm

I’m happy for Gwinnett, but as a former student and now a parent, I’m kind of at a loss as to how they won this award. There is a tremendous disparity between the good schools and the bad in this county, and even the good aren’t what they used to be (not to mention they are few and far between these days.)

EnoughAlready

October 19th, 2010
2:07 pm

Congrats to the Gwinnett students, teachers, principals and system administrators. How do we make sure that our child is considered one of the chosen few?

The Producer

October 19th, 2010
2:09 pm

So much hate, so much wasted time…..

msdevoe

October 19th, 2010
2:10 pm

That’s why we moved here! Proud Parent of an Archer High School Student!!!

Texas Pete

October 19th, 2010
2:16 pm

Kate,

Gwinnett’s worse schools would rival the absolute best schools in many systems in this state. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. This isn’t an award for the most perfect school system in the country. People need to stop holding out hope for Utopia and learn to deal with problems because they are everywhere. I’ve already seen two posts concerning special needs support. One parent said Gwinnett was getting the job done while another said she had to advocate constantly to get the IEP followed. To the latter parent, was the IEP followed in the end? If so, that’s better than a lot of situations where parents can’t get it followed at all.

What is lost in all this talk of recognition and money is that the primary factor for student success is parental involvement. No one said life is easy and sometimes you have to work harder or even fight for what you need. Gwinnett is relatively successful because it has a higher concentration of parents willing to fight for their children at every level. Most systems are full of parents who view school as a daycare and a burden on their lifestyle. Don’t let a school official say that Little Johnny is doing bad with behavior and/or classwork. Of course it’s the school’s fault and someone is doing Johnny wrong rather than the parent taking an honest look at what might be a small problem that can be easily fixed with some attention to the matter.

Gwinnett has its flaws, just fewer than most systems.

Dr. John Trotter

October 19th, 2010
2:16 pm

A “prize” coming from the Broad Foundation is dubious at best. What if MACE selected a school system of the year? Do you think that the AJC would do handstands as if the City had just been awarded host site of the Olympics? Ha! The Broad Foundation is a joke, and Alvin Wilbanks is a dictatorial superintendent at best. There are indeed some good schools in Gwinnett. There are some good students too. There are certainly good teachers in Gwinnett, but I don’t need any “award” from an anit-teacher institute like the Broad Foundation to validate this for me.

This is certainly a good thing

October 19th, 2010
2:17 pm

And I believe I just heard my property values INCH up – even thought my kids are long gone from Gwinnett PS.

Two questions: We have to assume that Gwinnett won this award because of good management and HIGH standardized test scores, along with the emphasis that EVERY student should be on a college prep track. Question: Is this really a successful model for moving to 2025 and beyond.

Question: If Gwinnett is urban, what does surburban look like? Is there a new term for large city systems besides “urban?”

Allen

October 19th, 2010
2:19 pm

No hate here, and congratulations to Gwinnett, but let’s stop the charade that Gwinnett is a poor rural school district in need of financial support from urban districts via the state “Equalization” process.

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Larry Major

October 19th, 2010
2:25 pm

Congratulations to the students and staff at Gwinnett County Public Schools.

Let’s hope this doesn’t give Alvin a swelled head and make him difficult -)

I’m going to can this in a function key:
The state Equalization Funding is funded through legislative appropriations from the state’s general fund. It is not funded by school systems and no school system’s QBE earnings are reduced in any way by its existence. Please don’t take my word for this and research it to prove to yourself that this is how it works.

new math

October 19th, 2010
2:25 pm

Let’s see how the juniors do on their GGT for the new math…

Fred

October 19th, 2010
2:28 pm

Gwinnett is hardly “Urban” if you think it is, get a few miles outside of Lawrenceville, Gwinnett is still the Sticks.

I have so much respect for Gwinnett Schools we pulled our kids out of Gwinnett Schools and put them in private schools, best thing we ever did for them.

If you put your kids in Public Schools, ANY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, you are raising a looser!!!!!

middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :

October 19th, 2010
2:30 pm

My daughter went from elementary through high school in the Norcross cluster. She was a 4.0 student in AP classes and in lots of extracurricular activities. I found many of her teachers mediocre and disinterested, the county unresponsive to their customers of parents and students, and that she received a really poor education. My husband and I will always regret we did not educate her in private school.

Dr. John Trotter

October 19th, 2010
2:33 pm

Maureen: You are right that there is criticism for Wilbanks being “imperious.” Can we remember Nixon’s Imperial Presidency? (In the interest of fair disclosure, I voted for Nixon in 1972 and think that he too accomplished some good things, though he was beset with paranoia.) I have never been accused of being “imperious” (at least not that I know of; just the normal “crazy”), but I have been accused of being “impervious” to pain. Hence, this is probably one of the reasons that I blog under my real name. I am “crazy,” umembarrassable, and impervious to pain! Ha!

Phil

October 19th, 2010
2:41 pm

Being the biggest and the best in ga…..I think the other metro counties are a bit jealous eh…

Vedette

October 19th, 2010
2:43 pm

Alvin Wilbanks and the school board deserve a lot of credit. The school district has grown at breakneck speed, finances have dropped, the number of English-as-a-second language students has soared, and the number of free-and-reduced-lunch students is half, or nearly so, of the total. Any one of these things is enough to make the wheels come off. Instead, test scores remain high, more kids are applying to go to college, and staff morale is high.
The school board is stable, focused on the kids, and most importantly not crazy. Alvin shares their vision and knows how to get there. And the principals and teachers are committed and resourceful. Well done by all concerned.

BlackGirl

October 19th, 2010
2:46 pm

@art, gimme a break. It’s wonderful that you love Westminster, however there are WONDERFUL public schools out there. I’ve known MANY classmates and family members to graduate from public school and go on to have uber successful careers. Westminster is a fine school. I have a friend whose kid is an 8th grader at Westminster. It’s a personal decision that I can understand, but to say that all public schools are mediocre is unfair to the students that attend these schools. And for the record, Fulton has some of the BEST public schools in the state. Why do you think that Buckhead parents choose to pay for their kid to go to Riverwood for $8000 instead of Westminster for $20,000, even though they can afford both.

How in the world is Gwinnett considered an Urban school district? Kudos to them, but they’re far from urban.

Phillip44

October 19th, 2010
2:49 pm

Will teachers ever get the recognition they deserve for helping Gwinnett County get this award ?

Proud Teacher

October 19th, 2010
2:53 pm

This award has been in the making for the past couple of years. It feels good to be on a winning team. Go Berkmar and Go all of Gwinnett!!!!!!!!

Dunwoody Mom

October 19th, 2010
2:56 pm

Fred said. If you put your kids in Public Schools, ANY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, you are raising a looser!!!!!

Fred…it loser…..

Texas Pete

October 19th, 2010
2:56 pm

Fred and art,

I would argue that if your child cannot learn in a public school that maybe it’s you who are raising the loser. Just sayin’…

Dr NO

October 19th, 2010
2:57 pm

Asha

October 19th, 2010
1:10 pm

LOL…thats pretty good and I agree…LOL!

PS…are you and APS employee? LMAO!! AHH HAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Maureen Downey

October 19th, 2010
2:59 pm

@Phillip44, Your super certainly credited teachers in his speech today.
Maureen

Dr NO

October 19th, 2010
3:01 pm

“as a parent have had to advocate every step of the way to make sure that my special needs child IEP was followed.”

As did I. One of my chldren was in IEP and I had to constantly stay on the teachers and force them to do certain things…its your JOB. Dont be bitter about doing the right thing for your child.

Dr NO

October 19th, 2010
3:04 pm

bart

October 19th, 2010
12:51 pm

No I dont think so. Most Gwinnett parents are Republicans and its a known fact Rep parents are far more responsble than the democratic parents. NO? Well lets see, Gwinnett/Reps win award. APS/Dems have SACS on them, they have a cheating scandal, huge dropout rates etc.

Case CLOSED!

Phil

October 19th, 2010
3:07 pm

Asha you sound kinda like a sixties flower child….

Jennifer Falk

October 19th, 2010
3:08 pm

The irony of it all. Congratulations Gwinnett.

zoe

October 19th, 2010
3:09 pm

As someone who attended school in an “urban” district and who now teaches in a TRUE “urban” district, I think the main point of contention is that Gwinnett is not an urban system. Parts of the system are, but the majority of the students do not live in an urban setting, do not attend school in an urban setting nor do the majority of the teachers teach what I would consider urban students. Only 50 of 130 schools were listed as Title I schools in 2009-2010, most urban systems are 100% Title I. Also, if Gwinnett receives funds from the equalization monies because they are considered a “rural” system by the state, it is interesting that the system is willing to change its classification based on where the money is coming from. It is nice that the system was recognized, but it seems they are getting acclaim for overcoming urban problems, when the system isn’t urban so it doesn’t have any urban problems to overcome.

Hollywould

October 19th, 2010
3:10 pm

I agree with texas pete. If your child can’t learn in a public school perhaps the home is where it starts. I have an 11year old son and 8 year old daughter in public school. All I can see is how much they are learning/ having fun while they are doing it. I get e-mails almost daily from their teachers showing me what they are doing and what they can improve on. These teachers seem to be working very hard and long hours. I swear some of you would try to downgrade anything. I am glad I don’t have your look on life.
Congrats to Gwinnett

Kim

October 19th, 2010
3:12 pm

When you see your child coming home with test scores of 105 you know your in the right district. That’s why I moved here from Boston!!! Go Gwinnett!! Everyone else who is making bad comments are just jealous, and need to grow up or do something about the level of education that their kids are not getting instead of bad mouthing the ones who are!!

dawgh8er4ever

October 19th, 2010
3:16 pm

PRHS MOM

October 19th, 2010
1:51 pm
Gwinnett County’s School System does not meet the needs of the special education students in its school system so how it won any award is beyond me. I as a parent have had to advocate every step of the way to make sure that my special needs child IEP was followed. It is very sad that a system can win an award and not have a handle on their Special Education Department.

Really PRHS mom…my wife is the department head for Special Ed at North Gwinnett High School, and its been said that its the model for Gwinnett, so just because the Special Ed Dept is bad at one place doesnt reflect that its bad elsewhere. Also…its YOUR responsibility to enforce the IEP and to make sure the teachers are doing their job, as Dr. NO said, be be bitter about doing the right thing for your child.

The Producer

October 19th, 2010
3:16 pm

Ignorance knows no boundaries, urban or rural………

Fred

October 19th, 2010
3:20 pm

Texas,

I will agree,they could not learn anything at Gwinnett County Schools. When the teacher does not teach anything to the students, they will learn nothing. When they get challenged, they learn a lot. Gwinnett County schools are nothing more than government funded day care, so if they are the best, our education system is too far gone to save.

I stand by what I said, public schools are for losers, if you don’t care enough about your kids to get them in a school where they will actually learn something…..well if you cannot figure that out, I have made my point.

Allen

October 19th, 2010
3:27 pm

@Larry Major–

That’s not quite right. Some districts currently levy a millage rate in excess of the State’s constitutional cap. Other counties receiving benefit from the Equalization part of the funding formula have much lower millage rates. In other words, a $150,000 house in a “poor rural” county may be taxed at 15 mills, while a $150,000 house in a “rich urban” is taxed at 23 mills with the taxes from both going to the state’s general fund which then disburses the funds in favor of the “poor rural” counties. Gwinnett, winner of this prize for best “urban” school district, is classified as a “poor rural” county under Equalization.

It is contradictory to be urban and rural on alternating days, depending on how the money is being allocated.

From the Georgia Countil on Educatuion: “Because all counties are not created equal in terms of property tax wealth, they cannot raise the same amounts of money from local property taxes. The state provides additional funding to these counties according to a formula that compares the relative property tax wealth of all counties in the state.” The state, in case you missed it above, gets this money from the counties.

If you want to read the word “mill” until your eyes bleed, see here: http://www.georgiaeducation.org/documents/Basics%20of%20GA%20School%20Finance_2007.pdf

Let me clear–I don’t think this is what made the difference in Gwinnett–I’d say it’s a combination of more involved parents, a less (all things being relative) corrupt school board and administration than nearby counties, a smaller percent of the population being lower SES (I guess that’s not PC), and a greater local tax base. All of which are wonderful, and all of which imply Gwinnett is in no need of assistance from counties unfortunately lacking in those areas.

DeKalb Educated

October 19th, 2010
3:32 pm

@Fred. You may not like this post as well as you did my last post at 1:23 but I hope you will step back and examine what your wrote. Losers? All children who attend public schools are losers? I have a brother who sends all of his children to Westminster. It is a crown jewel of a school but who can afford $20K a year for one child? My brother and his wife are fortunate. They can. It would be great if every child could attend a Westminster. I think public schools would do well to model their curriculum after outstanding schools – public or private. No child is a loser and no parent is a loser who encourages a child to read, excel in their academic performance and become honest and compassionate adults. My three sons went to Lakeside High. They have all done well. They are giving back to their communities. I see other graduates from Lakeside doing well, raising families, paying taxes, leading by example. One of our first Iraqi war dead was a Lakeside grad – Jamal Anderson. Was he a loser? Let’s not make this about class warfare. Let’s celebrate when schools excel. Let’s elect members to our school boards that will have vision and integrity. I think the people running to unseat most of the incumbents in DeKalb could help raise our students above the abysmal level where they currently sit. I hate that we can’t have someone better qualified than Ella Smith to unseat Dr. Walker. District 9 has little choice and that is sad. The other school board district elections have some viable candidates. On November 2nd, I will look to the voters to makes some necessary changes so we may one day celebrate DeKalb’s return to academic excellence.

King of Stone Mountain

October 19th, 2010
3:37 pm

Agree with Zoe…Gwinnett is far from “urban”, but a tip of the cap regardless. Almost every year, the entire state ranks poorly whenever measured against the lower 48. Refreshing to know that certain districts are managing quite well… Would be nice to follow suit in DeKalb, for a change.

EduKtr

October 19th, 2010
3:38 pm

The teachers’ union (Georgia Association of Educators) must be gratified that Ms. Downey has allowed them so lengthy and utterly gratuitous a plug for their local Gwinnett chapter. I wonder if Downey has seen the new film WAITING FOR SUPERMAN, by the way, and taken in what it has to say about that union’s parent body?

Maureen? You there …?

The Producer

October 19th, 2010
3:39 pm

DeKalb Educated,

Nice job on Mr. Freddie………

Texas Pete

October 19th, 2010
3:41 pm

I wonder what Fred does for a living. Has Fred ever been in a position to hire someone? If so, has Fred ever hired someone who attended a public school? I’m sure Fred would say “only for the custodial or cook staff.”

Saint simon

October 19th, 2010
3:46 pm

We need to stand up for our white kids!!!

Maureen Downey

October 19th, 2010
3:48 pm

@Eduktr, I am adding any formal congrats that come my way as I think this is a time for celebration for the system. As for the film’s portrayal of unions, I think this is a fair response to what was left on the cutting room floor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/16/education/16teacher.html?hpw

Maureen

PS: Just added a comment from Perdue.

Fred

October 19th, 2010
3:50 pm

Dekalb,

Let’s see what’s wrong with your post,

1 – Private schools do not have to cost $20k per year, many are much less expensive. The ones that cost that much are Ego Schools for the parents.

2 – If your Brother can afford it, its because he made the decisions to put himself in the position to afford it. Unless he bought the winning lottery ticket, he was not “Fortunate”.

3 – You assumed class warfare here, WRONG!! We drove junk cars, did not take vacations, etc, etc to afford private schools, so let’s not even go down that road.

4 – No, not ALL kids in Public schools are looser, just like not ALL kids in private schools will be winners.

BUT, you hit a point that we can agree on. YOU, the parent, are responsible for your kids education. I applaud you for being involved and helping your kids learn. They are going to be winners in life because of YOU, the school had very little to do with it. When more parents take their responsibility of being a parent serious, the schools won’t have a choice of getting better. Voting out the losers on the school board as well is a great first step!!

Susan Little Buice

October 19th, 2010
3:51 pm

Congratulations to every member of the Gwinnett County School District Team! Office Staff, Support behind the scenes, teachers, counselors, coaches, principles, and the bus drivers that wait to move until he has safely signaled for the kids walking if front of the bus to cross the street!! All of you make a difference and you are so very much appreciated!
Congrats Again!! So proud my kids are students in Gwinnett!!

Fred

October 19th, 2010
3:52 pm

Of course I have Texas, I have your application here…..just kidding.

Texas Pete

October 19th, 2010
3:58 pm

Fred,

At 2:28 PM you said “If you put your kids in Public Schools, ANY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, you are raising a looser!!!!!”

At 3:20 PM you said “I stand by what I said, public schools are for losers, if you don’t care enough about your kids to get them in a school where they will actually learn something…..well if you cannot figure that out, I have made my point.”

I already pointed out earlier in this blog that the responsibility of learning falls on the parents and students regardless of public or private education. Why the change of heart? Have you seen the light?

There’s no point in debating public vs private. Private schools can decide who they let it, who they keep in, and the typical parent pays out so much money that they are generally going to take more interest in what is going on with their children than the typical public school parent. It’s not even the same playing field.

Mr. Teacher

October 19th, 2010
4:03 pm

It’s easy to be on the outside looking in and making judgements based on the surface. First of all, I come from another urban school district outside of Georgia. I have had the chance to experience what it’s like to teach in a loosely organized and disfunctional school district and Gwinnett is exactly the opposite. This county is very well run, high levels of collaboration is built into how we operate daily, highly diverse (at least at the high school where I teach) and growing.

I am an African American male teacher and realizes that the buck stops with me, the teacher. I want my students to succeed and if they don’t, I ask why and how can I do it better next time. I have the opportunity to walk into my class daily and see the changing face of America. My students are approximately 40% hispanic, 15% white, 35% Black and 10% Asian/other. My students parents aren’t always very involved, over 70% of our students are on free/reduced lunch, there are pockets of teachers with low morale around me, we have our share of discipline problems, there are gangs present, our administrators are diverse, our students are diverse and our teachers are diverse and yes there are days that I don’t feel like coming to work. But each year over 75% my students excel on state tests and go on to college or some form of higher education. So you may ask, what’s the difference between Gwinnett and many other counties? I don’t know what other school districts are doing but, I do know that Gwinnett focuses on collaboration, new teacher development, setting high standards in all areas of curriculum (AKS), making data driven decisions, hiring qualified teachers, exploring new outreach programs such as the county wide male mentoring program that pulls mentors from local churches and the local community, etc.

Gwinnett, isn’t perfect, but at least they have a clear vision and backs it up with appropriate action to meet the needs of it’s growing diverse population of students. In the end, we must ask ourselves; What’s best for our students. When decisions are made based on the student’s best interest, usually high levels of achievement follows.

Fred

October 19th, 2010
4:04 pm

Texas,

This is the problem of debating on a blog. After reading your earlier posts that I did not see, you may be shocked to realize that you and I and not as far apart on this subject as you may think.

As far as my ALL comments, what fun is a debate if you cannot “Stir The Pudding” a bit…..

Fred (the original!)

October 19th, 2010
4:05 pm

If your kid is willing to put the effort out and you as a parent are willing to stay involved, public schools are a good thing, at least in Gwinnett. I think it is important to be a part of a school community that reflects the real world demographics, not one that is full of the same socio-economic members. I do recognize that there are poorer performing schools in Gwinnett and that people have had a bad experience with some of those schools. To paint the entire system with the same broad brush is both unfair and unrealistic. There are pockets of excellence and pockets of mediocrity. We need to increase the former and decrease the later.
As to Gwinnett being considered “urban”, let’s look at some population figures and school attendance figures courtesy of the Census Bureau, the State Board of Education, and the various school system web sites.
Population Children attending school
State – 9,829,211 – 1,615,066
Fulton Co – 1,033,756 – 92,000
Gwinnett Co – 808,167 – 161,000
Cobb Co – 714,692 – 106,000
Dekalb Co – 747,274 – 102,000
Atlanta – 540,900 – 45,500
Gwinnett is the largest school system by far in the state. Fully 10% of the State’s students attend Gwinnett. As the second most populous county Gwinnett has approximately 8.2% of the State’s population. Given these stats, it is easy to see how Gwinnett is considered “urban” even though most of us think of the City of Atlanta as urban. When you add in the demographics of the population and consider that over 50% of the Gwinnett student population is on the free or reduced price breakfast/lunch program, I think it is easy to understand the urban classification.

old times

October 19th, 2010
4:10 pm

Isn’t it interesting to read the negativity that oozes from the disgruntled, the elitists, and the envious. I agree with Maureen, who in her time has written some very pointed articles about GCPS; they continue to work hard to improve the learning experience for all their students so let them celebrate their accomplishment without trying to tear it down. If you want to improve our overall educational process become involved wherever you have a child enrolled; positive involvement is always appreciated and welcomed.

aps

October 19th, 2010
4:17 pm

This is the same superintendent that last year laid off many of his so called beloved teachers leaving marks on their records so they are unable to find teaching work again.

Fred (the original!)

October 19th, 2010
4:30 pm

Ok, I lied. :) I went to look for the latest on the free and reduced lunch program and it turns out that 49.89% of Gwinnett students are recipients. See http://www.gwinnett.k12.ga.us/gcsnp.nsf/078DB7EB94960528852576810053FF37/$file/FREE_REDUCED_ZONED_Percentage.pdf for the schools and percentages. It will probably surprise you which schools have large percentages.

As to the performance of the schools and system, I agree with several posters that it comes down to parental involvement. There are so many parents that choose not to be involved and then complain. I don’t know what has happened to personal accountability both at the parental and student level but that is a discussion probably best left for another time. I have seen some real losers in private schools (relatives included!) and stellar students in public schools. While there is no true predictor as even some involved parents have kids that fail, involvement as a whole tends to work.

Susan Little Buice

October 19th, 2010
4:31 pm

Be positive Georgia! Negative comments are ridiculous! It takes alot of work to get here!
Maybe all of you negative folks should go to your schools this afternoon and see how you can volunteer!

Dana @ MCPS (not GaDOE)

October 19th, 2010
4:47 pm

Hi everyone. Folks here at Montgomery County Public Schools are disappointed we didn’t win, but we are all very excited for everyone at Gwinnett County Public Schools. Hopefully, we’ll get a chance to compete for the Broad next year. Meanwhile, I hope all the Gwinnettians enjoy their day! Congratulations.

David Sims

October 19th, 2010
5:20 pm

One of the things I’ve heard Gwinnett schools praised for is narrowing the racial gaps for academic achievement. This, for example, from Atlanta Magazine, January 2007:

“The county was recently recognized by Standard & Poor’s for narrowing the achievement gaps between black and white, economically disadvantages and non-disadvantaged, and Hispanic and white students.”

Well, pardon me, but it does not seem to me that this is enough information to trigger praise. There are two ways to narrow an achievement gap, and raising the performance of the undergroup is only one of them. How do we know that the test scores of white and Asian students haven’t been falling, instead?

Winning the Broad Award doesn’t mean that Gwinnett is the best school system in the country, or even in the State of Georgia. Remember, only the BIGGEST school systems are eligible for the prize. The little ones aren’t in the running, no matter how good they might be. And until I see the judging criteria, I’m not going to conclude on whether they are objective and non-political. If they’re getting points for “narrowing the racial gaps,” without someone being very sure that this was done by raising the low side (and not by lowering the high side), then there’s a political element in the judging. If they’re getting points for “diversity,” then there is a political element in the judging.

Leftist (il)logic can be confusing to someone who believes that leftists actually mean what they say, that their intentions are what they claim them to be. If race doesn’t matter, then why bother to raise objections when a school isn’t racially diverse? If leftists really believed their equality dogma, no arrangement of human beings would be any more or less objectionable than any other arrangement, regardless of how much or how little diversity there were.

Melanie

October 19th, 2010
5:26 pm

It is interesting to me that some find it necessary to criticize Gwinnett’s recognition from the Broad Foundation. One million dollars in scholarship money will be awarded to numerous well-deserving Gwinnett students. Truly, isn’t this incredibly positive?

In Gwinnett, we say that we have two types of employees. We have those who teach and those who support teaching and learning. I fall in the category of those who support teaching and learning, and I am proud to serve students, parents, and staff in Gwinnett County Public Schools each day. Even after nearly 20 years as an educator, I am awed each day by the amazing things our teachers and students accomplish together. I am proud of my school, school system, central office staff, superintendent, and Board of Education!

catlady

October 19th, 2010
5:26 pm

I am thrilled with the effect the contribution of my poor (70% Free lunch) county has made to Gwinnett County schools by the millions that are taken from our property taxes to give to the “poor” systems like Gwinnett from the Fair Share Program (what a misnomer!)! Alvin, do you think you could send us some of our tax money back so we can pay for the basics for our kids?

This is a serious question.

Larry Major

October 19th, 2010
5:28 pm

Allen,

Perhaps you’ve come across the point where this is getting confused.

The tax rates you mentioned are for local school taxes. These don’t go into the state’s General Fund; they stay with the local school with no appropriation process. Districts who tax themselves at a higher rate keep all of it.

Equalization is funded from standard state revenue streams like personal and corporate income tax, sales tax etc.

Joya

October 19th, 2010
5:34 pm

YEAH Gwinnett County! WOOT WOOT!

KIM

October 19th, 2010
5:42 pm

Art, I am sorry for you. Nothing gets dander up like comparing public vs private ed. Perhaps private ed can find a benefactor to challenge and reward excellence like public ed has found with the Broad Foundation. My children graduated from Brookwood, a school with graduates at every Ivy League school, at the best public and private colleges and universities, at all the Academies…and has so since its opening in the early 80s. Additionally the Brookwood students are exposed to extraordinary excellence in music, art, dance, foreign languages, leadership, atheletics,as well as the finest in business application. Math, science, English, AP classes and scores….they are among the top performing content areas and/or exceed compared to all schools. Look at the awards which are endless. Way to go GCPS!!!

Mighty Fine

October 19th, 2010
5:50 pm

For Gwinnett to be the largest district in the state and still be able to turn out numbers that best their counterparts I’d say good deal and good job! The KIDS win here, say what you want about the system but a cool million will be going towards some lucky kids’ college education. And that, is AWESOME.

Mighty Fine

October 19th, 2010
5:54 pm

No need to back peddle now, Fred.

It would be safe to assume that YOUR kids are losers, too. After all, at some point they were in GCPS, right? Tsk…

KIM

October 19th, 2010
5:58 pm

I feel for special needs parents and students. One of our family members is on the autism spectrum. However, I keep in mind that no one has to teach special ed. It is a gift to us that some do. The parents of special needs children need to remember that being difficult and constantly criticizing schools for doing their best with challenging children will never work. Work with your school people. REmember: no one has to do this saintly work. Otherwise you could put your children in any/all private schools with vouchers…

KIM

October 19th, 2010
5:59 pm

Mighty Fine: I don’t think your name is accurate.

Mighty Fine

October 19th, 2010
5:59 pm

So now we’re telling the foundation who and where to give their $$$$$. the hypocrisy in this is astounding!

Mighty Fine

October 19th, 2010
6:00 pm

@KIM: how, pray tell, did you arrive at such a conclusion about a faceless screen name on the internet?

Melanie

October 19th, 2010
6:16 pm

David Sims,

I would encourage you to look at GCPS’s student achievement data over the past five years. We do not just close the achievement gap. We close it high.

Grizz

October 19th, 2010
6:18 pm

What I haven’t seen mentioned in all of the posts is that Gwinnett is a majority-minority school district. The elementary school our daughters attended looks like a little UN right now, with kids from about every continent except Antarctia. Many of them arrive with limited or no knowledge of English, not to mention formal education, yet not only has the Gwinnett system coped, they have excelled at it. Yes, there are problems, and the economy certainly hasn’t helped, but with community support, parents who believe in educating their kids and work hard at it, a solid school board, and excellent leadership, Gwinnett has thrived. And it’s only getting better. To all you naysayers, I have only one comment – TTHHHHHHHBBBBBBBBBBTTTTTTTTT.

GwinnettEmployee

October 19th, 2010
7:16 pm

Since when did Wilbanks become a Dr? This is about the third year Gwinnett has been up for this award…it is about time. i wonder how many teachers went on the all expenses paid trip to accept the prize!

Peggy

October 19th, 2010
7:17 pm

Great job Gwinnett County! Now all the haters can now shut up. Gwinnett is still great and I’m so glad I moved from Cobb County. We have great entertainment, arts, dining, sports and of course, great schools! Good job Gwinnett County educators. The parents are proud of you!!!!

Vince

October 19th, 2010
7:22 pm

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Vince

October 19th, 2010
7:23 pm

Well done and well deserved!

Vince

October 19th, 2010
7:27 pm

I would stack our Gwinnett schools up against the finest schools in the state…public, private, urban or rural.

Great schools……great parks……great libraries…..great entertainment….great place to call home.

Teacher of Gwinnett

October 19th, 2010
7:27 pm

Congratulations, GCPS! Well deserved!!!!!

David Sims

October 19th, 2010
8:01 pm

Gwinnett County Schools.
Spending per pupil: $8859.
63% instructional, 7% student/staff support, 15% administration, 15% other.
Showing data for some of the county’s public high school’s.

Brookwood High School
1255 Dogwood Rd – Snellville, GA 30078
Grades 9-12
3385 students: 63% white, 15% black, 13% Asian, 6% Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 10
2009 SAT average score: 1625
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
Hispanic 90% (something strange here)
White 78%
Asian 77% (something strange here)
Black 69%
Biology.
Asian 96%
White 93%
Black 74%
Hispanic 64%
U.S. History.
White 92%
Asian 87%
Black 76%
Hispanic 60%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
Asian 97%
White 96%
Black 84%
Hispanic 84%
American Literature.
White 97%
Black 93%
Asian 92%
Hispanic 79%
Economics.
White 93%
Asian 87%
Black 78%
Hispanic 56%
Geometry.
Asian 92%
White 89%
Black 79%
Hispanic 70%

North Gwinnett High School
20 Level Creek Rd – Suwanee, GA 30024
Grades 9-12
3077 students: 58% white, 15% Asian, 12% black, 12% Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1573
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
Asian 85%
White 73%
Black 63%
Hispanic 60%
Biology.
White 91%
Asian 82%
Black 79%
Hispanic 62%
U.S. History.
White 87%
Asian 78%
Black 71%
Hispanic 62%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
White 95%
Asian 91%
Black 83%
Hispanic 75%
American Literature.
White 98%
Asian 95%
Black 90%
Hispanic 80%
Economics.
White 94%
Asian 90%
Black 75%
Hispanic 69%
Geometry.
Asian 92%
White 88%
Black 70%
Hispanic 68%

Duluth High School
3737 Brock Rd – Duluth, GA 30096
Grades 9-12
2208 students: 33% white, 26% Asian, 19% black, 19% Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 10
2009 SAT average score: 1568
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
White 70%
Asian 64%
Hispanic 50%
Black 45%
Biology.
White 90%
Asian 78%
Black 64%
Hispanic 56%
U.S. History.
White 82%
Asian 75%
Black 60%
Hispanic 48%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
Asian 96%
White 93%
Black 80%
Hispanic 73%
American Literature.
White 94%
Black 87%
Asian 83%
Hispanic 80%
Economics.
White 90%
Asian 80%
Hispanic 58%
Black 53%
Geometry.
White 90%
Asian 86%
Black 72%
Hispanic 47%

Peachtree Ridge High School
1555 Old Peachtree Rd NW – Suwanee, GA 30024
Grades 9-12
3071 students: 44% white, 24% Asian, 19% black, 11% Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1553
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
White 81%
Asian 81%
Black 60%
Hispanic 52%
Biology.
White 87%
Asian 78%
Black 59%
Hispanic 54%
U.S. History.
White 83%
Asian 66%
Black 59%
Hispanic 49%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
White 95%
Asian 89%
Black 83%
Hispanic 78%
American Literature.
White 98%
Black 93%
Asian 92%
Hispanic 73%
Economics.
White 84%
Asian 80%
Black 60%
Hispanic 49%
Geometry.
Asian 89%
White 88%
Hispanic 77%
Black 70%

Collins Hill High School
50 Taylor Rd – Suwanee, GA 30024
Grades 9-12
3556 students: 55% white, 19% black, 13% Hispanic, 10% Asian
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1529
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
White 88%
Asian 86%
Hispanic 73%
Black 71%
Biology.
White 88%
Asian 80%
Black 66%
Hispanic 60%
U.S. History.
White 87%
Asian 77%
Black 68%
Hispanic 62%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
White 92%
Asian 82%
Black 75%
Hispanic 71%
American Literature.
White 98%
Asian 94%
Hispanic 87%
Black 86%
Economics.
White 90%
Asian 79%
Hispanic 70%
Black 64%
Geometry.
White 95%
Asian 92%
Hispanic 85%
Black 78%

Central Gwinnett High School
564 West Crogan St – Lawrenceville, GA 30045
Grades 9-12
2736 students: 42% black, 27% white, 20% Hispanic, 8% Asian
Greatschools rating: 7
2009 SAT average score: 1475
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
Asian 67%
White 67%
Black 55%
Hispanic 45%
Biology.
White 75%
Asian 66%
Black 55%
Hispanic 45%
U.S. History.
White 75%
Asian 69%
Black 59%
Hispanic 44%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
White 81%
Asian 80%
Black 67%
Hispanic 66%
American Literature.
White 92%
Asian 87%
Black 87%
Hispanic 72%
Economics.
White 74%
Asian 66%
Hispanic 53%
Black 49%
Geometry.
White 79%
Hispanic 76% (something strange here)
Asian 70% (something strange here)
Black 60%

South Gwinnett High School
2288 Main St East – Snellville, GA 30078
Grades 9-12
2685 students: 59% black, 27% white, 7% Hispanic, 3% Asian
Greatschools rating: 7
2009 SAT average score: 1414
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
White 82%
Hispanic 69%
Black 68%
Asian 67%
Biology.
Asian 79%
White 78%
Black 63%
Hispanic 53%
U.S. History.
White 82%
Asian 64%
Black 51%
Hispanic 37%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
White 82%
Asian 77%
Black 69%
Hispanic 62%
American Literature.
White 96%
Black 84%
Asian 83%
Hispanic 81%
Economics.
White 83%
Asian 71%
Hispanic 61%
Black 56%
Geometry.
White 92%
Hispanic 71%
Black 68%
Asian n/a

Berkmar High School
405 Placeeasant Hill Rd NW – Lilburn, GA 30047
Grades 9-12
3086 students: 39% black, 37% Hispanic, 11% Asian, 10% white
Greatschools rating: 5
2009 SAT average score: 1385
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
Asian 68%
White 67%
Black 50%
Hispanic 49%
Biology.
White 86%
Asian 76%
Black 60%
Hispanic 47%
U.S. History.
White 77%
Asian 58%
Black 55%
Hispanic 40%
Physical Science.
White 73%
Hispanic 66%
Black 63%
Asian n/a
9th Grade Literature.
White 86%
Asian 81%
Black 69%
Hispanic 62%
American Literature.
White 95%
Asian 88%
Black 87%
Hispanic 78%
Economics.
White 81%
Asian 78%
Hispanic 72%
Black 61%
Geometry.
White 78%
Asian 70%
Black 60%
Hispanic 54%

Meadowcreek High School
4455 Steve Reynolds Blvd – Norcross, GA 30093
Grades 9-12
2300 students: 50% Hispanic, 29% black, 13% Asian, 6% white
Greatschools rating: 5
2009 SAT average score: 1346
EOCT 2007-8, percent passing.
Algebra I.
White 43%
Asian 41%
Hispanic 30%
Black 30%
Biology.
Asian 83%
White 65%
Black 54%
Hispanic 44%
U.S. History.
Asian 74%
White 73%
Black 44%
Hispanic 43%
Physical Science.
(No data.)
9th Grade Literature.
Asian 79%
Black 71%
White 70%
Hispanic 49%
American Literature.
Asian 96%
White 93%
Black 80%
Hispanic 62%
Economics.
White 77%
Asian 73%
Hispanic 51%
Black 43%
Geometry.
Asian 84%
White 69%
Black 40%
Hispanic 33%

David Sims

October 19th, 2010
8:46 pm

@KIM. Yep. Brookwood is a good school. Of all the high schools in Gwinnett County that I’ve checked, it’s the one with the highest percentage of whites and Asians, and the lowest percentage of blacks and Hispanics. It has the highest average SAT score in the county and ranks #16 in Georgia. Its test scores generally earn it a Greatschools rating of 10. If I had children who needed high schooling, and I had to settle for what was available in Gwinnett County, Georgia, then Brookwood would be the school I’d pick.

Jennifer

October 19th, 2010
8:54 pm

Mmm dawgh8…

It is not the parents responsibility to ensure the IEP is implemented. You are dead wrong on that point.
An IEP is developed in partnership between the school and the parent, with the school shouldering the majority, if not all of the responsibility of the implementation.

Old Timer Educator

October 19th, 2010
9:16 pm

Don’t know where the earlier poster got his/her data on graduation rates, but Central Gwinnett High School has met the graduation rate required by NCLB. Two years ago, it was 72%. Last year, it was 80%. This year, the requirement will be 85% and they’re planning on making that too. If you compare it with earlier rates, the numbers are even more impressive. Given their demographics, these stats are nothing to sneer at.

David Sims

October 19th, 2010
9:52 pm

@Old Time Educator. It must not have been me. I didn’t post any graduation rates for Gwinnett County high schools. I posted a lot of other information, but I didn’t post graduation rates.

David Sims

October 19th, 2010
10:01 pm

One interesting thing I noticed is that even Gwinnett’s best high school, Brookwood, isn’t quite as good as some of those in nearby counties. Fulton County has, judging by test scores, six better high schools: Northview, Riverwood, Alpharetta, Chattahoochee, Milton, and Roswell. Cobb County has four better high schools: Walton, Pope, Lassiter, and Wheeler.

Ah, but Gwinnett has the Big Population eligibility, and those other systems don’t.

agree with Dingy/Allen

October 19th, 2010
10:04 pm

Kudos to Gwinnett. Outstanding achievement! Now give the money back you are taking from the other counties when you are classified as “rural” for QBE funding.

Sherri

October 20th, 2010
10:15 am

Gwinnett County schools are awesome! Both my kids have had excellent teachers overall in the Central Gwinnett cluster, and are well prepared for college. Numerous students in my oldest son’s graduating class are now attending Ivy League schools. Gwinnett County, and Central Gwinnett specifically, must be doing something right!

Several posters on this site, most apparently from other counties and/or from private schools, refer to Gwinnett schools as “ghetto” schools. If I’m reading your inference correctly, what you mean is that they are diverse. Diversity is good! It prepares you for the real world, which is not some lily-white enclave. I am glad my sons have had the opportunity to see that “kids are kids” and “people are people” and that we are all the same underneath our skin.

Way to go, Gwinnett County!! Keep up the good work!!

ScaryMFer

October 20th, 2010
10:37 am

Quit your complaining! What a bunch of cry-babies. The negative is what is wrong with this country. Mill creek is a great cluster. They have many school clubs and activities and it is up to YOU PARENTS to get your child involved and to go the extra mile in public school. Teachers can only do so much.

[...] Maureen Downey at the Atlanta Constitution-Journal writes that the Broad Prize is a “validatio… [...]

Vince

October 20th, 2010
1:23 pm

@ David,

It isn’t just the size of the school system that made Gwinnett eligible over schools in Fulton or Cobb (which are also large enough).

You see, most thinking people know that a school’s test scores alone only tell about the socioeconomics of an area. It’s when you look at schools with high test scores AND they still wrestle with demographic change, high economic needs, non-English speakers, etc…you see that some schools are doing something correct…..something amazing. THAT is what the Broad group recognized in Gwinnett County.

I have had three children graduate from Gwinnett schools. All have said that college was easier than the rigor they faced in their local high school. I couldn’t have asked for better preparation.

Old Time Educator

October 20th, 2010
2:06 pm

No, it was addressing this poster: (from page one)

Education Insider

October 19th, 2010
1:52 pm

David Sims

October 20th, 2010
6:09 pm

@Sherri. The real world wasn’t always diverse. Racial mixing is the result of fossil fuels used in mass transportation, in mass propaganda, and to empower the governmental coercion necessary to prevent re-segregation by both voluntary and violent means. All through the ages, races hardly ever mixed as equals. In the societies in which the races mixed at all, it was the general rule that one race was the citizenry, whereas the others were the slaves.

This social experiment in racial harmony is, judging by the evidence of the past, a temporary affair, an aberration, an attempt to violate natural laws as they apply to hominids through the constant use of exosomatic energy to defray the costs and to absorb the damage. Once fossil fuels are gone, or even seriously depleted, the world will promptly pay all of the accumulated costs for violating those natural laws.

There doesn’t appear to be much wrong with “lily-white enclaves.” After all, that’s what Europe was throughout ancient times and the Middle Ages. The people who lived there brought to the world its first and only technological civilization (all others just copied what Europe pioneered), introduced heavy industry, created its highest culture, and produced a great deal of its natural philosophies, though some of them, such as universal brotherhood and racial egalitarianism, were pretty foolish. Don’t judge Europe by the sorry condition of society you see in your area.

“I am glad my sons have had the opportunity to see that…we are all the same underneath our skin.”

If your sons have had their eyes open, that’s not what they have seen. Race isn’t skin color. Skin color is merely one of the differences that race can involve. There are loads of others: physical, mental, behavioral.

Furthermore, a difference in race doesn’t always involve a difference of skin color. The Turks are not, for example, of the same race as European white people, even though their skin is just as fair. The Negritos, inhabiting the island of Panay in the Philippines, have black skin and knappy hair, as the African blacks do, but they are as genetically distant from African blacks as Europeans are.

Community Watch Dog

October 20th, 2010
6:13 pm

This is a great honor for the seniors in GCPS. They will be eligible for $1 million in college scholarships. Let’s just hope and pray that the Board of Education, Mr. Wilbanks and his cabinet don’t abuse or mismanage the funds like in the past

Nat Turner

October 20th, 2010
6:20 pm

It was great to see the leaders of Gwinnett County Public Schools in attendance at the event. Does Gwinnett County Public Schools have black educators and leaders? I noticed Dr. Tim Mullen and Mr. Jonathan Patterson both white educators were representing the county. Mr. Wilbanks, you do have some highly educated blacks that are educators and leaders that are employed in the county? Where were they? Why weren’t they invited to attend? It’s about time to change face of the Board!!

David Sims

October 20th, 2010
7:14 pm

@Vince. The problem for school systems isn’t socioeconomics; it’s race. The reason poor people exist isn’t “historical oppression.” It is, rather, the capacity and/or efficiency of their brains, which sets (low) their point of diminishing returns on time invested in acquiring intellectual skills. The law of supply and demand, which states that the more vital a job is, and the fewer people there are who can do that job well, the greater will be the salary associated with it. Our civilization being a technical one, intellectual skills are in demand.

IQ is important in determining where someone will fall on the socioeconomic curve. Different races have different distributions for intelligence. Although each race’s distribution of IQ is nearly normal (”bell curve shaped”), the averages occur at different places along the IQ axis. They have different standard deviations, too. So each of the strata in the SES spectrum contains different proportions of the races, as the result of the races having, on the average, unequal brains, hence unequal incomes.

The first thing to suspect, when a school system declares that it has closed the racial gaps in academic achievement, is fraud. The current CRCT cheating scandal in the Atlanta Public Schools is a good example.

Although it has not yet become as nationally famous, something similar has been going on in the public schools of New York City, where the exit from office of former Mayor Michael Bloomberg was quickly followed by the discovery that the “closure of the racial gaps” on NYC public school test scores was illusory. That’s probably a nice way of saying fraudulent.

In Florida, it appeared for a while that the public schools had appreciably narrowed the racial gap on NAEP scores between blacks and whites and had nearly closed the gap between Hispanics and whites. On close examination, it turned out that the narrowing was, once again, illusion. In this case, the state government, aware that NAEP test results for 4th graders would be used as a national benchmark, contrived a high-pass filter for third-grade pupils seeking advancement to the fourth grade. The state failed a lot of 3rd graders, mostly blacks and Hispanics. Since even a Hispanic can learn one year’s worth of course material in two years, and since blacks also benefit, somewhat, from having double the normal time to learn that material, Florida’s public schools appeared to have worked a miracle of reform—when they hadn’t.

I’ve seen this happen often enough that I’ve concluded that no declaration of racial gap closure in academic achievement should be believed without some kind of careful examination of the details. Yes, I’m aware that Gwinnett County is “diverse,” and I’m aware that part of the basis of the award is closing the racial gaps, although that is more of a political goal than an educational one. An educational goal would be to boost every student as far as he can go, not neglect one group to intensify efforts to boost another. What Gwinnett’s Broad Prize win probably means is that Gwinnett County’s public schools need some checking over by a team of Sherlock Holmeses from GBI.

David Sims

October 20th, 2010
7:20 pm

Errata.

I wrote:

Although it has not yet become as nationally famous, something similar has been going on in the public schools of New York City, where the exit from office of former Mayor Michael Bloomberg was quickly followed by the discovery that the “closure of the racial gaps” on NYC public school test scores was illusory. That’s probably a nice way of saying fraudulent.

Correction:

Michael Bloomberg remains mayor of New York City. I incorrectly stated that he had left office. Nonetheless, the discovery that the gains in overall test scores and the closure of the racial gaps in academic achievement, which Mayor Bloomberg himself had bragged about before Congress, have been proved not really to exist.

Vince

October 20th, 2010
8:32 pm

@ David…

I do agree with you on at least one item. I do not like the term “closing the gap” as it implies the students at the highest achieving level are stagnant…or at the very best making less gains than the students below them.

However, David, try not to be so cynical of what is going on in Gwinnett. As I stated earlier my children were very well prepared for higher education having graduated from Gwinnett schools. I want to relate a brief story to you. When my daughter was in 12th grade I jokingly asked her the capitals of some countries in Africa. She didn’t know them, so I asked, “What are they teaching you in that school of yours.”

Her reply was a classic. She said, “They don’t waste time teaching gifted kids stupid facts. They teach us to think.”

Indeed, she must have been right as she has a 4.0 average through her 3 years of college.

Gwinnett Teacher

October 20th, 2010
8:33 pm

I am SO proud to be a part of educating students and working with top notch educators in Gwinnett. I work in an elementary school where the teachers CARE, work extremely hard to differentiate instruction for the multiple learning styles of students, and use innovative approaches to make sure that ALL students succeed! The students speak MANY languages, come from diverse backgrounds and economic situations. The teachers and administrators have high expectations for the students and themselves. The students are respectful and excited about learning. My school is an International Baccalaureate School (Primary Years Program) which encourages international understanding, thinking outside the box, inquiry and application of knowledge. I invite ANY of the above critics to come and see first hand the kind of results we get in one of the TOP elementary schools in the country…Peachtree Elementary in Norcross!!!

prodetailer

October 20th, 2010
9:47 pm

Congratulations. Sent my kids to the finest private schools in New York City, and Gwinnett County does an excellent job. Great teachers, low tolerances and high expectations. Parents get off your rusty dusty…and help keep this school system #1. Let’s keep the momentum going. I have seen my share of public schools in motion in several states throughout the country. This award is well deserved, well earned and well rewarded! Alumni from Gwinnett are excelling in all professional careers and business opportunities. I expected and have received the following from Gwinnett County Schools: a great education for my two children, a safe learning environment, responsive teachers and administrators and an opportunity for my opinions to be heard and implemented if needed. Don’t think this school system is great……..take a tour of other county schools not only in Georgia, but across this country. To the Superintendent, administrative staff, teachers and support staff especially environmental engineers “pat yourselves on the back!”

David Sims

October 20th, 2010
9:49 pm

@Vince. Congratulations on having a very smart daughter. On the question of whether Gwinnett’s closure of the racial gaps in academic achievement should be taken at face value, note what I did when I looked over the data on that school system from Greatschools.org and from the SAT scores published by your state’s DOE. You’ll find it in an earlier post of mine. I’ll condense some of the data here.

These are some of Gwinnett County’s high schools, ranked in descending order of average SAT score for 2009.

Brookwood High School
3385 students
76% white/Asian
21% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 10
2009 SAT average score: 1625

North Gwinnett High School
3077 students:
73% white/Asian
24% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1573

Duluth High School
2208 students
59% white/Asian
38% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 10
2009 SAT average score: 1568

Peachtree Ridge High School
3071 students
68% white/Asian
30% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1553

Collins Hill High School
3556 students
65% white/Asian
32% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1529

Central Gwinnett High School
2736 students
35% white/Asian
62% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 7
2009 SAT average score: 1475

South Gwinnett High School
2685 students
30% white/Asian
66% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 7
2009 SAT average score: 1414

Berkmar High School
3086 students
21% white/Asian
76% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 5

Meadowcreek High School
2300 students
19% white/Asian
79% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 5
2009 SAT average score: 1346

Notice that when these schools are ranked in descending order or average SAT scores, they are also ranked in descending order of the percentage of white/Asian students and in increasing order of black/Hispanic students. A similar thing can be said for these schools passing percentages on the EOCT. If you’ve “closed the racial gaps,” as one (self-described) Gwinnett teacher has said, then why do these correlations occur? It certainly doesn’t look to me as if you have closed them.

David Sims

October 20th, 2010
10:00 pm

I accidentally omitted a line from my last post. Where’s that EDIT button?

Berkmar High School…
2009 SAT average score: 1385

David Sims

October 20th, 2010
10:53 pm

I might as well add a few more.

Mill Creek High School
4006 students
73% white/Asian
25% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1542

Mill Creek High’s average SAT score is a little less than what would be predicted by a least squares fit to the previous data. It’s still a very good correlation, though.

Grayson High School
3320 students
60% white/Asian
38% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 8
2009 SAT average score: 1494

Grayson High School does take its expected place between racial percentages and SAT scores shown in the previous set of Gwinnett County high schools.

Dacula High School
2336 students
57% white/Asian
41% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 8
2009 SAT average score: 1505

Dacula High School does take its expected place between racial percentages and SAT scores shown in the previous set of Gwinnett County high schools. (I regard the reversed order of Dacula and Grayson as being “in the noise” or involving a difference too small to be significant.)

David Sims

October 21st, 2010
5:26 am

Here are the three “big” public high schools in Gwinnett that I haven’t mentioned before.

Norcross High School
2947 students
39% white/Asian
58% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 7
2009 SAT average score: 1558

Now here’s a surprise. Norcross High School’s SAT scores are substantially higher than would be predicted by a least-squares fit to the other data. An anomalous data point on the chart. However, scores from other tests (indicated by the Greatschools rating of 7) are consistent with the racial percentages.

Parkview High School
2564 students
72% white/Asian
25% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 9
2009 SAT average score: 1596

Parkview ranks just above North Gwinnett in SAT scores, and just below North Gwinnett in percentage of white/Asian students. It pretty well fits the race/score correlation.

Shiloh High School
1870 students
23% white/Asian
73% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 4
2009 SAT average score: 1400

Shiloh High School does take its expected place between racial percentages and SAT scores shown in the previous set of Gwinnett County high schools.

There is one other high school in Gwinnett County, though it is a small one.

Phoenix High School
493 students
34% white/Asian
63% black/Hispanic
Greatschools rating: 7
2009 SAT average score: 1271

Phoenix has the lowest average score on the 2009 SAT of all of Gwinnett County’s high schools. Its scores on other tests would put it around the level of Central Gwinnett or South Gwinnett. Its racial demographics are similar to those of Central Gwinnett. Like Norcross High, Phoenix is anomalous for its SAT score in relation to its race percentages, though, unlike Norcross High, the direction of Phoenix High’s SAT score deviation is unfortunately in the bad direction.

Vince

October 21st, 2010
7:23 am

Yes, David…I saw your figures earlier. Phoenix is Gwinnett’s alternative high school….or think of it as an Open Campus concept. Kids go there when they need to make up a class they failed, or if they want to take a class after hours to get ahead, or if they work during the day and need to get credit hours in the afternoon or evening. It’s a great school that enables many kids to get hours for graduation when they couldn’t, or wouldn’t, otherwise.

Attentive Parent

October 21st, 2010
8:36 am

Rick Hess writes up the irony of awarding a prize to a school district trying to shut down a state charter option:

http://educationnext.org/an-awkward-moment-for-school-reformers/

It appears the Georgia Supreme Court’s ruling will be discussed nationally when it comes out.

[...] to direct you to education researcher Rick Hess’ short blog this week raising concerns about the Broad Prize going to Gwinnett County, which he describes as anti-charter [...]

TINA

October 21st, 2010
4:16 pm

Gwinnett IS great!

Harriett

October 21st, 2010
6:45 pm

Sorry, Tina Gwinnett is not GREAT!! Gwinnett has serious problems with race and fair treatment of employees. What they are GREAT at is trying to cover up their corruptions!

[...] to direct you to education researcher Rick Hess’ short blog this week raising concerns about the Broad Prize going to Gwinnett County, which he describes as anti-charter system. (An overdue hat tip here to Attentive Parent for [...]

Rick

October 24th, 2010
8:51 pm

Regarding ART who thought the award mediocre since it did not include private schools. You are right, it only included public schools who accept all students with no admissions testing (like the one for Westminster students) – that means second language learners, special education students, students of modest and low incomes are all welcome. In other words, Gwinnett Public schools admits all those that private schools discriminate against.