GAE endorses Roy Barnes for governor over Nathan Deal. I guess teachers have forgiven him after all.

Roy Barnes has won the GAE endorsement, which helps his case with teachers.

Roy Barnes has won the GAE endorsement, which helps his case with teachers.

The Georgia Association of Educators  announced it was endorsing Democrat Roy Barnes for governor.

The 43,000 member teacher organization is bound to get heat for the endorsment; it has already endorsed Democrat Joe Martin for school chief.

This endorsement gives Barnes the clout to say that he has made amends with teachers. I think it will go a long way to help his campaign.

What do you think?

Here is the official GAE statement:

The 43,000-member Georgia Association of Educators (GAE) today released its list of endorsements for Georgia’s statewide November general elections. Newly-elected GAE President Calvine Rollins says her organization’s recommendations were once again based on candidate interviews and profiles that indicated their willingness to work for the betterment of Georgia’s public education system. “These are challenging times for our public schools and they will need strong and creative leadership particularly in the governor’s and superintendent’s offices,” said Rollins. “Our process of candidate interviews and questionnaires helps our leadership come to the best possible recommendation, based on our priorities, on who will be a true friend to our public schools and the children who depend on them for their education.”

In Georgia’s gubernatorial race GAE is supporting former Governor Roy Barnes. Barnes, while still facing some backlash from his previous administration, now has the benefit of hindsight in what is truly needed to help our public schools and its students. Rollins said, “Barnes is the best choice to be able to come in and hit the ground running with respect to creating and implementing plans to address concerns such as class size, making high stakes testing more diagnostic rather than punitive, fully funding and staffing our public schools, making them safe for teaching and learning, opposing destructive ideas such as vouchers that would drain critically needed funding from our public schools, and including practitioners and utilizing their front line expertise in decisions that affect our public schools.”

In the state’s superintendent’s race, GAE is putting its weight behind Joe Martin. “We feel that Martin truly is going to work for the 1.75 million children who go to Georgia’s public schools,” said Rollins. “He feels strongly that lower class sizes are critical to providing the best possible teaching and learning environment and that our state has both a moral and constitutional obligation to fully fund our public schools, which he has proven through his five year legal challenge to do so. He believes in providing whatever resources are needed to keep our schools and children safe. And we feel his support of the dedicated men and women who work on frontlines with our children is genuine.”

The complete GAE statewide office endorsement list is as follows:

Governor – Roy Barnes
Lt. Governor – Carol Porter
State Superintendent of Schools – Joe Martin
Secretary of State – Georganna Sinkfield
Labor Commissioner – Darryl Hicks
Insurance Commissioner – Mary Squires
Attorney General – Ken Hodges

186 comments Add your comment

G'Vegas Dawg

August 20th, 2010
2:17 pm

Is there anyone else out there that is as irate as I am about the GAE endorsement of Roy Barnes? I am very disappointed in the fact that GAE would endorse any candidate without consulting the educators that they represent. I don’t think that it is too much to ask that the members of GAE have some sort of say in who thier association endorses. In this particular case it also upsets me that GAE chose to endores Governor Barnes, who has already been voted out by the educators of GA once before. I believe GB is full of empty promises and he will be unable to follow through on. He has said in his TV ads and radio spots that he will end teacher furloughs. I am sorry, but, that is out of his hands. The only way he can end teacher furloughs is to either cut teachers pay or put our state in a huge debt.

Proud Black Man

August 20th, 2010
2:17 pm

OUTSTANDING!!!

I hope the tea (insert the name that cannot be mentioned) and rethuglicans are ready. Maybe the right rights patron saint Sarah, its a constitutional right to say the n-word, Palin can rustle up a couple of “mama grizzlies” for the cause.

Proud Black Man

August 20th, 2010
2:17 pm

G'Vegas Dawg

August 20th, 2010
2:21 pm

Why would it not be a constutional right to say something?

G'Vegas Dawg

August 20th, 2010
2:24 pm

Speak of the devil:
Hundreds of mourners have gathered for the funeral for two South Carolina toddlers authorities say were killed by their mother before they were strapped into a car and rolled into a river.

Services were being held in Orangeburg on Friday for 2-year-old Devean C. Duley (DAY’-vee-uhn DOO-lee) and 18-month-old Ja’van T. Duley ((jah-VAHN’ DOO-lee).

A steady stream of mourners filed past the small white caskets before the service. The boys were dressed in matching white tuxedos. Some people dropped off stuffed animals, books and flowers.

Investigators say 29-year-old Shaquan Duley suffocated her sons after a fight with her mother, then tried to make the deaths look an accident.

Duley is charged with two counts of murder. She is not expected to be allowed out of jail for the funeral.

Proud Black Man

August 20th, 2010
2:34 pm

Reminds me of the gutter snipe Susan Smith who also drowned her two boys and tried to blame it on a black man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

or Andrea Yates who killed her five kids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates

Proud Black Man

August 20th, 2010
2:36 pm

@ G’Vegas Dawg

Are you slow or stupid?

Teacher, Too

August 20th, 2010
2:46 pm

While I’m a member of GAE, I don’t vote for a candidate because the organization has endorsed him/her. I am perfectly capable of thinking for myself, and while educational issues are certainly important, there are also many other significant issues to consider when voting for a governor (or any other candidate running for office).

chillywilly

August 20th, 2010
2:47 pm

Good for Roy Barnes.

G'Vegas Dawg

August 20th, 2010
2:56 pm

TT- Do you think that any type of union or association should endorse a candidate at all? PAGE took the high road on this one and didn’t endorse anyone at all. I am a member of GAE and I never recieved any polling information such as a phone call, e-mail, or written letter asking my opinion and neither did anyone in my school. My mother is the local GAE rep. and she was never contacted for her opinion on any sort of endorsement. What I am trying to get at (through a long tirade) is that if an association of any kind is going to endorse someone, wouldn’t it be smart to get a feel of your members first?

Ironic

August 20th, 2010
3:05 pm

Do any of you find it ironic at ALL that GAE endorsed someone who has never set FOOT in a classroom? Why not endorse the teacher who is running~Willis?

Lisa B.

August 20th, 2010
3:05 pm

I helped vote Barnes out of office eight years ago. I still don’t trust him, but frankly, I don’t trust any of them. However, this fall’s election isn’t about who I like, or who I have or have not forgiven. It’s about the future of public education in Georgia. Deal openly says that if elected, he will continue cutting funds for education. At least Barnes says he will stop the cuts. I feel that neither my local school system or any others is the state can survive continued cuts. I am voting for Barnes. He’s clearly outlined plans to fund public education. Deal has not. Enough said.

Ironic

August 20th, 2010
3:06 pm

You know, the one who is actually in the classroom, teaching children every day?

Vince

August 20th, 2010
3:09 pm

Wow! GAE acted simply along party lines rather than with their heads. Wished they had checked with us members first.

Lisa B.

August 20th, 2010
3:10 pm

G’Vegas Dawg, GAE has an endorsement process. Local members vote for people to represent their GAE district on the GAE Funds for Public Education Committee. The committee members meet with candidates and make endorsement recommendations. The GAE Board of Directors, made of of members elected by local organizations to represent their districts, discuss the PAC recommendations and vote the recommendations up or down.

Vince

August 20th, 2010
3:11 pm

@Lisa B.

…and the reason you believe Barnes is telling the truth this time is….?????

Vince

August 20th, 2010
3:16 pm

So, let’s see. Deal is saying, Let me be honest with you. We are in hard times and we will continue to have to make cuts. Barnes says, I will give educators a pay raise and I will end furloughs…

Tell you what,Lisa B., let’s meet back on this forum when the general assembly is meeting in February and revisit your thinking.

Vince

August 20th, 2010
3:17 pm

Looking in the bylaws now to see if I can “recall” my membership.

[...] The endorsement from the GAE was expected, as Political Insider’s Jim Galloway noted in June. Read more of  Maureen Downey’s posting. [...]

G'Vegas Dawg

August 20th, 2010
3:20 pm

Lisa – Make sure you do a little more research before you vote in November. Much like our president, Barnes is good at making promises that sound real good while running, but are difficult or impossible to keep. I am not doing cartwheels for either candidate. However, the comments that Deal made are in response to Barnes’ commercials and radio spots that say that he will end teacher furloughs. Again, on the surface this sounds real good, but, if you look a little deeper you see where Deal was coming from. If Barnes indeed ends teacher furloughs, where will the cuts come from in education? And before you say it, yes, there will be cuts in education for the next 3-4 years regardless of who is in office. The only way to no furlough the teachers is to cut their pay or put our state in a hugh debt. If we get our pay cut then we will still be losing money, except now we will not be getting time off in order to lose it. Neither has any education experience, however, Deal’s wife was a teacher in public education as well as his mother. He atleast has some insight into what is going on in the school system.

Maureen Downey

August 20th, 2010
3:23 pm

G’Vegas, If family members matter, Barnes has a daughter who is a special ed teacher.

Deal...real...corrupt.

August 20th, 2010
3:23 pm

Deal is also dealing with ethics violations, refuses to disclose his taxes, and was named one of the top ten most corrupt politicians in AMERICA.
Roy makes promises that he can’t keep unless he is willing to raise taxes. His boy, Joe Martin said that there needed to be an “increase in revenue” in order to help schools.
http://www.votemonds.com

WAS, Maureen

August 20th, 2010
3:25 pm

Barnes has a daughter who WAS a special ed teacher. Left after three or four years.

G'Vegas Dawg

August 20th, 2010
3:25 pm

Thank you MD…

EnoughAlready

August 20th, 2010
3:25 pm

Well he’s definitely a better choice than the “OTHER GUY”. There was a huge story on the front of the AJC a few hours ago about the budget cuts expected next year. I suspect Barnes will handle this shortage a lot better than Deal.

Vince

August 20th, 2010
3:28 pm

@enough already…You’re right! Barnes is going to give us raises and end our furloughs, right?

That’s what he said.

fulton teacher

August 20th, 2010
3:29 pm

Don’t count on all teachers forgiving King Roy. GAE does not speak for me.

EnoughAlready

August 20th, 2010
3:32 pm

The question should be “WHO WILL HANDLE THE BUDGE SHORTFALL?” in a reasonable fashion.

I seriously doubt that Deal can be that person. He would probably suggest giving family a choice ($3,000) toward the education of their children at a privately funded school. Which isn’t much in an economy where people are unemployed and budgets are being cut all around.

If we had school choice during this economy, many parents would be sending their kids to public school just to eliminate the private school debt. This should be brought and discussed in detail at this time, because it can highlight the flaws of taking money out of public schools; when the parents are being forced to cut their household expenses.

HS Teacher

August 20th, 2010
3:34 pm

Anyone but a republican!

G'Vegas Dawg

August 20th, 2010
3:34 pm

Corrupt – The so-called “most corrupt” list has been widely discredited.

As YOU KNOW, the list was from CREW which is funded by George Soros.

EnoughAlready

August 20th, 2010
3:35 pm

Vince

August 20th, 2010
3:28 pm

No one will be getting a raise in this economy. However, I believe that Barnes will do more to keep teachers on the JOB than Deal would in a good or bad economy.

Ryan

August 20th, 2010
3:37 pm

Family matters? Nathan Deal’s daughter was one of my professors at Piedmont College a few years ago. So they’ve all got teachers in the family.

I’m disappointed by the GAE backing Barnes on this one. Does anyone else remember him blaming teachers on his election loss, and then slashing the raise that year? I know I do.

Warrior Woman

August 20th, 2010
3:53 pm

Just because GAE leadership endorses King Roy, don’t assume rank and file teachers have forgiven him for his past lies. I, for one, have not, and think he’s lying again when he says he’ll end furloughs and restore education funding. I also consider the GAE list a list of who NOT to vote for. Of course, I’m *only* a parent and former teacher, so . . .

Kyle

August 20th, 2010
3:58 pm

I would back Barnes solely because I am against school vouchers. If that’s on the table for any candidate, they are going to lose my vote. School vouchers will just take desperately needed money out of public schools and widen the achievement gap between those who are well off economically and those who aren’t. Good for GAE!

MCC

August 20th, 2010
4:00 pm

Barnes might be able to scrounge up some money by getting rid of some of the ridiculous, shameful tax cuts many corporations have been granted in this state. Even in times of financial crisis, the majority party in the state legislature is willing to give tax cuts to companies instead of providing a basic education to the children in this state. Those tax cuts have not resulted in an increase in jobs as promised by some politicians. If I have to pay my tax bill, why should companies get a break?

I’m pretty independent politically, but it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to know that Republican candidates prefer business tax cuts of funding basic medical and educational services.

Wanttohaveinput

August 20th, 2010
4:00 pm

I chose PAGE over GAE because of their former endorsement and recall of Roy Barnes. As a high schooler, I remember my mother(GAE member) receiving mail out after mail out from GAE supporting Barnes in his first bid. Then, 4 years later, she received the same amount of costly mail outs telling her NOT to vote for him. No wonder GAE’s dues are so incredibly high over PAGE’s. However, I am unfortunately wondering if good ol’ Roy is the lesser of the two evils :/

MCC

August 20th, 2010
4:01 pm

Ironic – Willis isn’t running for governor. Why even bring her up?

horace mann

August 20th, 2010
4:01 pm

boohoo

August 20th, 2010
4:06 pm

G’Vegas = Gainesville=HallCounty=Deal

Wrong Maureen

August 20th, 2010
4:08 pm

Remember Maureen, GAE is comprised of teachers AND administrators. All this proves is that the GAE hierarchy has forgiven him. Ask twenty rank and file GAE teachers and dollars to donuts you get a different story. Which begs the question why would teachers continue to support an organization whose leadership is at odds with teachers, but that’s another story for another blog.

Deal...real...corrupt

August 20th, 2010
4:11 pm

G’Vegas. Sorry about the all caps. I liked it when we were able to use italics. Now I have to resort to caps for emphasis.
I got your message, though.
Deal is still a crook, and he won’t release his tax records, and he has a crazy antipathy for anyone who is not white, straight, or otherwise a w.a.s.p.

RJ

August 20th, 2010
4:24 pm

I have not forgiven Roy Barnes, but unfortunately he is probably the lesser of the 2 evils. I don’t even want to vote, but I will definitely do so. I am not a member of GAE or any other teacher union, so them endorsing him doesn’t matter to me at all.

Cobb Teacher

August 20th, 2010
4:26 pm

First, GAE does allow anyone in education to join, that means not only administrators and teachers, but janitors, bus drivers, parapros, anyone! PAGE sat this one out because they are weak and useless, remember, you get what you pay for! GAE’s endorsement may not suit everyone, but then nothing suits everyone. I know Cobb County Assoc. of Educators endorsed Deal, because it was the will of their members, but GAE has to take into account the entire state. So if you have a problem with the endorsement, vote for the other guy. And if you don’t like the political process, get involved and change it! As I always say “shut up or stand up!” Don’t whine on here if you haven’t done anything to get involved in GAE/CCAE or your local association.

Send a message

August 20th, 2010
4:29 pm

The best way to influence GAE is to withdraw your membership, and your money.

high school teacher

August 20th, 2010
4:29 pm

I can’t fault GAE that much… they simply picked death by stabbing (in the back) versus death by drowning…

Ol' Roy

August 20th, 2010
4:35 pm

Y’all vote for me, you hear? No more furlough days, no more teachers “let go”, pay raises for all, a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage!

I think I got carried away. Forget that part about a car in every garage. You will get HUGE pay taises, though!

Vote for Ol’ Roy! You know you can trust me!

Ol' Roy

August 20th, 2010
4:41 pm

Y’all ’scuse me. I was so excited tellin’ you about your pay raises that I committed a typo! That should be “HUGE pay raises . . .”

Than you . . . and don’t forget to vote for me. After all, your leaders have now told you to vote for me!

PAGE question

August 20th, 2010
4:42 pm

What does PAGE stand for anyway; Passive Association of Georgia Educators?

bootney farnsworth

August 20th, 2010
4:43 pm

an education association endorsing a democrat?
imagine.

kinda like the AJC carrying Beverly Hall’s water.
who’d a thunk it.

bootney farnsworth

August 20th, 2010
4:45 pm

@ HS teacher

to a degree I agree with you.
both are disgusting political hacks.

if one’s family is sinking in this pitiful excuse for
an economy, and both options are as slimy as this

-may as well back the one with the nicer promises.