Maybe, you did learn everything you needed to know in kindergarten — if you had a strong teacher

 A new study suggests the benefits of quality kindergarten are much greater and far-reaching that believed.

A new study suggests the benefits of quality kindergarten are much greater and far-reaching than we knew.

In response to Atlanta attorney Emmet Bondurant’s controversial opinion piece calling for a greater slice of the lottery funds for pre-k and less for HOPE, many posters countered that early childhood education is a waste of money. After reading the more than 200 comments, Bondurant plans a response to his critics, but I thought this New York Times column also addresses many of the points he made.

The column by David Leonhardt also speaks to two issues that come up here a lot: the value of education and the importance of teacher quality. Posters often disagree that we ought to be directing more Georgia teens to college, arguing that kids can do quite well without advanced education and that the value of a degree is slipping in this recession. Not so, says Leonhardt.

There’s also resistance on the blog to the notion that teacher quality matters and we need to improve the training of our teaching force. It does not help the profession or students to pretend otherwise by blaming all low achievement on inherent student deficiencies that cannot be overcome by teachers, no matter how dedicated or how talented.

I think this is a wonderful piece by Leonhardt:

How much do your kindergarten teacher and classmates affect the rest of your life? Economists have generally thought that the answer was not much. Great teachers and early childhood programs can have a big short-term effect. But the impact tends to fade. By junior high and high school, children who had excellent early schooling do little better on tests than similar children who did not — which raises the demoralizing question of how much of a difference schools and teachers can make.

There has always been one major caveat, however, to the research on the fade-out effect. It was based mainly on test scores, not on a broader set of measures, like a child’s health or eventual earnings. As Raj Chetty, a Harvard economist, says: “We don’t really care about test scores. We care about adult outcomes.”

Early this year, Mr. Chetty and five other researchers set out to fill this void. They examined the life paths of almost 12,000 children who had been part of a well-known education experiment in Tennessee in the 1980s. The children are now about 30, well started on their adult lives.

On Tuesday, Mr. Chetty presented the findings — not yet peer-reviewed — at an academic conference in Cambridge, Mass. They’re fairly explosive.

Just as in other studies, the Tennessee experiment found that some teachers were able to help students learn vastly more than other teachers. And just as in other studies, the effect largely disappeared by junior high, based on test scores. Yet when Mr. Chetty and his colleagues took another look at the students in adulthood, they discovered that the legacy of kindergarten had re-emerged.

Students who had learned much more in kindergarten were more likely to go to college than students with otherwise similar backgrounds. Students who learned more were also less likely to become single parents. As adults, they were more likely to be saving for retirement. Perhaps most striking, they were earning more.

All else equal, they were making about an extra $100 a year at age 27 for every percentile they had moved up the test-score distribution over the course of kindergarten. A student who went from average to the 60th percentile — a typical jump for a 5-year-old with a good teacher — could expect to make about $1,000 more a year at age 27 than a student who remained at the average. Over time, the effect seems to grow, too.

The economists don’t pretend to know the exact causes. But it’s not hard to come up with plausible guesses. Good early education can impart skills that last a lifetime — patience, discipline, manners, perseverance. The tests that 5-year-olds take may pick up these skills, even if later multiple-choice tests do not.

Now happens to be a particularly good time for a study like this. With the economy still terribly weak, many people are understandably unsure about the value of education. They see that even college graduates have lost their jobs in the recession.

Barely a week seems to go by without a newspaper or television station running a report suggesting that education is overrated. These stories quote liberal groups, like the Economic Policy Institute, that argue that an education can’t protect workers in today’s global economy. Or they quote conservatives, like Charles Murray and Ramesh Ponnuru, who suggest that people who haven’t graduated from college aren’t smart enough to do so.

But the anti-education case usually relies on a combination of anecdotes and selective facts. In truth, the gap between the pay of college graduates and everyone else grew to a record last year, according to the Labor Department, and unemployment has risen far more for the less educated.

This is not simply because smart people — people who would do well no matter what — tend to graduate from college. Education itself can make a difference. A long line of economic research, by Julie Berry Cullen, James Heckman, Philip Oreopoulos and many others, has found as much. The study by Mr. Chetty and his colleagues is the latest piece of evidence.

The crucial problem the study had to solve was the old causation-correlation problem. Are children who do well on kindergarten tests destined to do better in life, based on who they are? Or are their teacher and classmates changing them?

The Tennessee experiment, known as Project Star, offered a chance to answer these questions because it randomly assigned students to a kindergarten class. As a result, the classes had fairly similar socioeconomic mixes of students and could be expected to perform similarly on the tests given at the end of kindergarten.

Yet they didn’t. Some classes did far better than others. The differences were too big to be explained by randomness. (Similarly, when the researchers looked at entering and exiting test scores in first, second and third grades, they found that some classes made much more progress than others.)

Class size — which was the impetus of Project Star — evidently played some role. Classes with 13 to 17 students did better than classes with 22 to 25. Peers also seem to matter. In classes with a somewhat higher average socioeconomic status, all the students tended to do a little better.

But neither of these factors came close to explaining the variation in class performance. So another cause seemed to be the explanation: teachers.

Some are highly effective. Some are not. And the differences can affect students for years to come.

When I asked Douglas Staiger, a Dartmouth economist who studies education, what he thought of the new paper, he called it fascinating and potentially important. “The worry has been that education didn’t translate into earnings,” Mr. Staiger said. “But this is telling us that it does and that the fade-out effect is misleading in some sense.”

Mr. Chetty and his colleagues — one of whom, Emmanuel Saez, recently won the prize for the top research economist under the age of 40 — estimate that a standout kindergarten teacher is worth about $320,000 a year. That’s the present value of the additional money that a full class of students can expect to earn over their careers. This estimate doesn’t take into account social gains, like better health and less crime.

Obviously, great kindergarten teachers are not going to start making $320,000 anytime soon. Still, school administrators can do more than they’re doing.

They can pay their best teachers more, as Pittsburgh soon will, and give them the support they deserve. Administrators can fire more of their worst teachers, as Michelle Rhee, the Washington schools chancellor, did last week. Schools can also make sure standardized tests are measuring real student skills and teacher quality, as teachers’ unions have urged.

Given today’s budget pressures, finding the money for any new programs will be difficult. But that’s all the more reason to focus our scarce resources on investments whose benefits won’t simply fade away.

81 comments Add your comment

atlmom

July 29th, 2010
2:32 pm

nwga mom: i just re-read to kill a mockingbird (obviously, highly recommended). It talks about scout (the narrator) and how she’s starting school, her dad taught her to read at home, and the teacher telling her that her dad has to STOP THIS NONSENSE right now, how the teacher brought ‘new ideas’ from ‘the city’ and how her dad (the LAWYER) had been home schooled, and why does she have to go to school anyway?

It was SO interesting to me – especially when the teacher was telling the kid – no you *shouldn’t* be reading. REALLY?

Then – that’s why you have many parents who just say: fine, you teach my kid (although, the parent is the NUMBER ONE teacher for the kid). It was so fascinating to me.

Angela

July 29th, 2010
2:33 pm

Here again, is a topic with much opinion from those who are not inside of the classroom or even a school system.

@Atlanta MOM, I just love your comments – I sure hope that at no time (if you are employed) that your job performance were based on some type if’s, don’ts, must’s, percentages, scores, quota’s, etc.

Again, I repeat WE TEACHERS TEACH GRACEFULLY WHAT YOU PARENTS SEND US! SEND US BETTER AND WE JUST MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK MIRACLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where are the readers?

July 29th, 2010
2:42 pm

Gee Maureen, you claim 400,000 readers but not a single one is willing to support you with a quote that shows that bloggers have made a statement that blames “all low achievement on inherent student deficiencies that cannot be overcome by teachers, no matter how dedicated or how talented.”

400,000 readers and not one can find a quote that supports Maureen’s statement that bloggers blame ALL low achievement on factors that can’t be overcome by teachers?

What's best for kids?

July 29th, 2010
2:52 pm

“As Raj Chetty, a Harvard economist, says: ‘We don’t really care about test scores. We care about adult outcomes.’”
This quote says everything that needs to be said about testing.

Teacher&mom

July 29th, 2010
2:55 pm

@atlmom- I love To Kill a Mockingbird. Of course if you use the novel to talk about teachers and the classroom, you can’t leave out the infamous Ewells. I wonder how Burris Ewell would have performed on the CRCT;)

catlady

July 29th, 2010
3:02 pm

My noonish post has yet to post (again).

Beck

July 29th, 2010
3:28 pm

I hope that every one of you who believes that parents play an important role in a child’s experience at school (and I mean everyone’s parenting contributing to every other child’s experience in that classroom, good and bad) is PRO-CHOICE and will advocate for access to healthcare and birth control in order to ensure that only parents who are making a conscious effort to become parents will become parents.

The two go hand-in-hand.

Time for truth

July 29th, 2010
3:32 pm

As a teacher, I urge my fellow teachers to stop attacking Maureen for stating the obvious. Too many in our profession point the finger at our students than look at their own teaching. The attacks on Happy Teacher for liking what she does and saying more of us can do better have become embarrassing. If you hate teaching, quit. My school got 112 applications for one job. Make room for some more happy teachers.

@Time for truth

July 29th, 2010
3:43 pm

Time for truth, please show us, before you ask us not to hold Maureen accountable for her statement, one quote where a blogger said ALL low achievement can be blamed on “inherent student deficiencies that cannot be overcome by teachers, no matter how dedicated or how talented.”

A TRADITIONALIST

July 29th, 2010
3:43 pm

NO…NO…NO…..NO…NO…LEAVE IT TO A STRONG MOTHER…IF YOU CAN NOT RAISE THAT BABY…..DON’T GET PREGNANT…IDIOT…DON’T LET HIM GET YOU PREGNANT..JUST SAY NO WAY..

Beck

July 29th, 2010
3:46 pm

Oh – and Amen to time for truth.

A TRADITIONALIST

July 29th, 2010
3:46 pm

IT IS NOT THE STATE’s JOB TO RAISE YOUR RUG RAT…YOU HAD IT…YOU RAISE IT….Maureen is just offering the liberal solution to everything under the SUN…..Leave it to the gov’t..

Fericita

July 29th, 2010
5:05 pm

Wow! I think that’s so fascinating that the effects of having a great kindergarten teacher seemed to taper off, but them reemerge later. I wonder if we are really getting enough of a scope in some of our educational studies.

This reminded of an interesting article that ran in Newsweek a while ago: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/03/05/why-we-must-fire-bad-teachers.html

Consider this statistic from that article: “The research shows that kids who have two, three, four strong teachers in a row will eventually excel, no matter what their background, while kids who have even two weak teachers in a row will never recover,” says Kati Haycock of the Education Trust and coauthor of the 2006 study “Teaching Inequality: How Poor and Minority Students Are Shortchanged on Teacher Quality.”

If that’s true, I wonder what the impact would be in merit based pay, which I think is coming sooner or later. It seems like elementary teachers have the highest burden, while high school teachers already have kids set to go down one path or the other! However, I don’t think that’s the case. It’s pretty harsh to say that no kids will ever recover from two weak teachers in a row. Certainly some can beat the odds.

Atlanta mom

July 29th, 2010
5:53 pm

YO TRADITIONALIST!!!!
Last time I checked, it took TWO.
“DON’T LET HIM GET YOU PREGNANT..JUST SAY NO WAY..”
So traditional that a male takes no responsiblility? You are living in the wrong century.

Here's one, or two, or three

July 29th, 2010
6:03 pm

schlmarm

July 23rd, 2010
7:09 pm
A school and its teachers can NEVER make up or substitute for what the child does not get at home.

Echo

July 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
So do the teachers in DC schools get to “fire” their underperforming students?

HS Teacher

July 23rd, 2010
9:04 pm
I am 100% for being accountable for student progress – but only if you let me pick the students. It is totally unfair for me to be held accountable for student progress when there are way to many other factors involved that I have no control over.

Let me pick students – the ones well behaved, the ones motivated to learn, the ones that have already mastered the content up of the pre-requisites, and so on. I can then do my job as a teacher and would certainly have students that show tremendous progress.

But, do not put students in my room that don’t want to be there, that don’t care to learn, are disrespectful, are rude, have not eaten dinner the night before or breakfest that morning, etc. I am there to be the teacher of content and not to be their parent. Parents need to properly prepare their offspring in order to maximize learning – and I have zero control over that part.

Bryan in South GA

July 29th, 2010
6:33 pm

Teacher&mom, you commented that it (pre-k) helps, but it doesn’t level the playing field. I have yet to experience a level playing field. Have you?

Ole Guy

July 29th, 2010
6:38 pm

If your k-teacher was a Nun, you DID learn, in a very basic sense, everything you needed to know.

catlady

July 29th, 2010
9:16 pm

You know, we could probably make up a predictive model for achievement. Starting with a basic kid, 2 parents, middle class, stable jobs, happy church-going, reading on grade level, etc. The children with these “qualities” would be expected to make a year’s growth in a year. The predictive model would then allow for less predicted success for children with one at risk characteristic, even more for each additional factor.

The problem with using any kind of student test is that you have to guarantee that the students put the highest effort into the pre and post test. So you have to make the tests important to the student, via grades? The problem is, many students are not motivated by grades (or much of anything else.) hence the problem with basing teacher efficacy measurement on others, even with a predictive model.

If you attempt to measure teacher competency by paper work, well, there are many folks who can write out great lesson plans,but can’t teach worth a lick.

Then there is the observation segment. If teachers are not allowed to establish effective classroom management, students will disrupt when the observation takes place, just to “mess up” the teacher. And this does not take into account rater bias, which can be a significant problem in many areas. Different teaching styles, principals with limited experience in the area being rated, principals who are a “legend in their own minds,” ratings that are influenced “from above” (we need to have at least 10% of our teachers cut, so be tough on the ratings!) as some have alleged happened this year in some counties, etc.

So here we are, back where we started from.

Happy Teacher

July 29th, 2010
9:19 pm

What continues to baffle me, and disappoint me, is that teachers don’t seen to recognize that the ONLY thing that will ever fix the problem of bad parenting/unprepared children is EDUCATION. There is nothing else that ever has, or ever will, work.

If you truly believe that all the problems start at home and continue into school, then you must recognize that the cycle can only stop in our nation’s classrooms. Is that a difficult burden to bear? Yes, but it is the challenge we must rise to. Or shrink from…

Oh, and I’m a he…

This will solve everything

July 29th, 2010
9:39 pm

What baffles me is that one educator would defend another educator when a Congressional investigation found that that educator engaged in damage control when a her politician/fiance was accused of inappropriate sexual contact with young female AmeriCorps volunteers at a school where the educator served on the board of directors.

But I guess some of us have different agendas, and different ideas of what it means to be a true advocate for the best interests of children.

OTOH

July 30th, 2010
2:21 am

NWGA: you don’t have to go that far back. Two different Kindergarten teachers told me I had “ruined” my kids education by teaching them to read before they went to school. Way back in 1993 and 1995. The good news is the teachers had stopped saying such stupid things by the time my 4th child entered the system.

OTOH

July 30th, 2010
2:27 am

I would like to see evaluations the teachers on this board think would be worthwhile. I do not mean the vague “observation”. I mean, show me a rubric, specific to, say, 4th grade teachers.

Fericita

July 30th, 2010
6:21 am

I think the Class Keys evaluation tool that Cobb County uses is comprehensive and fair. It includes evaluation based on several different areas: curriculum and planning, standards-based instruction, assessment of student learning, instructional environment, and professional duties/responsibilities. However, a fair evaluation necessitates an evaluator who is fair. These end up being based on a 30 minute or less observation and a form that the teacher fills out. In order to truly observe or know about all of these areas, a principal would have to be in the classroom a lot more. Which, I think, would be a good thing!

Greg Kaiser

July 30th, 2010
8:38 am

“As a teacher, I was only as effective as my principal and administration allowed me to be. As a teacher, I was only effective to children who came to school wanting an education.”

I’m a 15 year veteran of teaching who says that this statement is one of the biggest cop-outs I’ve ever heard.

Happy Teacher

July 30th, 2010
9:00 am

Denisetutors

July 31st, 2010
10:58 am

I do not think that money should be taken away from the Hope Scholarship Fund and given to kindergarten rather that the money should be allocated amongst both groups. However a higher percentage of the money should be awarded to the Hope Scholarship Fund.

Georgia is one of the few states that require passing state tests in Elementary, Middle School and High School. Yet our overall high school graduation rate is still low. Isn’t the purpose of our education system to produce a economically productive adult? Maybe we should focus on the entire education process and not just kindergarten or high school.

needy

July 31st, 2010
1:33 pm

“As a teacher, I was only as effective as my principal and administration allowed me to be. As a teacher, I was only effective to children who came to school wanting an education.”

“I’m a 15 year veteran of teaching who says that this statement is one of the biggest cop-outs I’ve ever heard.”

Once again proving that some teachers have a deep psychological need to see themselves as saviors, to the point where they can’t support good teaching conditions, because it doesn’t allow them to play the role of hero.

Devil's Advocate

July 31st, 2010
3:45 pm

Needy- the connection you are trying to make is just not there and it is just a sad indicator of the excuses you continually try to make for bad teachers. Stop. You are an embarassment.

Devil's Advocate

July 31st, 2010
4:16 pm

Hey needy- What about people who have no control in their real life trying to control a blog for a summer? What does that say about them? Doesn’t this prove that some (very few, thankfully) teachers have such a sick twisted victim mentality that they see the whole world as oppressing them? Sad.

@Devil's advocate

July 31st, 2010
8:37 pm

The connections you are trying to make are just not there, and are a sad indication of how far people will go to excuse the current dysfunction in the public education system.

jat

August 1st, 2010
12:47 pm

Neal Boortz should go back to Kindergarten so he can learn how to share.
p.s. If you think teachers have any “power” you are delusional.