Truth or dare: Who are you supporting tomorrow and do we dare to hope it matters in the long run to our schools?

Truth or dare:

The truth question first: Who are you voting for tomorrow in the primary and why?

And the dare: Do we dare to think it matters? With the state finances still limping along, does it matter who the governor of Georgia is or the secretary of education?

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Ray

July 19th, 2010
8:28 am

Perhaps we ought elect an advocate for education?

Maureen Downey

July 19th, 2010
8:32 am

@Ray, Any suggestions on who that might be?

Dunwoody Mom

July 19th, 2010
8:43 am

I truly have no idea at this point.

EnoughAlready

July 19th, 2010
8:46 am

I know who I will NOT be voting for, but I haven’t decided who will get my vote. The politicians running this year are the worst possible choices I have seen in the last 20 years. If the decisions that are to be made over the next few years weren’t so DIRE, I probably wouldn’t make the effort. However, things are so bad, I have to vote.

Dare or Truth

July 19th, 2010
8:47 am

Dare to say the total lot of candidates are a lack of LEARDSHIP in education and state government.However, the only one who has the past experience in both areas is Barnes.Truth is I must vote for him with a bad taste in my mouth.It’s sad that we have come to this point in our state for elected officials.

schlmarm

July 19th, 2010
8:51 am

I agree with Dare or Truth @8:47.

Concerned

July 19th, 2010
8:59 am

Undecided. Definitely no Republicans. They did not pass Economics. That is why we are in the mess we are in.

fultonschoolsparent

July 19th, 2010
9:00 am

I watched the Republican debate last night – ANYBODY but a Republican (and I’m not wild about Barnes either but may be forced).

Maureen Downey

July 19th, 2010
9:01 am

For all the undecided folks, When are you going to decide and what will you look at/read in the next 24 hours to help you decide?
I have been inundated with robo-calls from or on behalf of candidates; I just erased seven from my home voicemail. I wonder if those calls pay off? Are any of influenced by them? I am just annoyed by them.
Maureen

oldtimer

July 19th, 2010
9:02 am

Karen Handel……Never Barnes for me..no matter what…

Dunwoody Mom

July 19th, 2010
9:06 am

Sadly, probably when I’m at the voting preceint. Roy Barnes was my choice for Governor until he came out in support of the Arizona immigration law. For DOE? I am leaning toward Martin, but that is subject to change.

oldtimer

July 19th, 2010
9:07 am

I also think people are very naive to think any Democrat will be any better…There is no money. Property values are bleeding, businesses hurting, and unemployment is still high. it will take years to recover.

td

July 19th, 2010
9:12 am

For the Superintendents job, I will be supporting Dr. John Barge. He is the only candidate in my view that has the qualifications and experience to make the necessary changes the department will need to endure during the next few years due to the massive budget cuts that are coming.

I do not know yet as to who I will be supporting for Governor. I think Handel and Barnes would be the total worst choices we could make but I do not know who of the remaining candidates would be the best choice.

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Nothing We Can Do

July 19th, 2010
9:20 am

td, we know you are supporting Barge and I hope he wins just so we can get rid of him in Bartow County. Secondly teachers lose with all the Republicans, so the most important election for us will be in November

Ray

July 19th, 2010
9:22 am

Beth or Westlake… if it’s at all about our kids’ education, our country’s future.

GAE says Martin – but they also endorse pro-voucher Judson Hill, so the fox is clearly in the hen house over there.

Anybody know who PAGE is pushing?

Attentive Parent

July 19th, 2010
9:23 am

On the school super race, maybe we should check into their positions on the Gates Foundation and whether it is almost single-handedly dictating education policy.

Check out these numbers. http://jaypgreene.com/2010/07/19/gates-cant-buy-national-standards-but-will-sure-try/

An advocate for public education change & choice

July 19th, 2010
9:27 am

I agree with “Dare or Truth”, this is a remarkably weak slate of candidates across the board. Roy Barnes seems to have timed his return to state politics precisely and I will likely vote for him although with less of a bad taste in my month. Instead I’ll cast my vote with hopeful optimism.

Still very undesided in the race for state superintendant.

An advocate for public education change & choice

July 19th, 2010
9:30 am

@ Attentive Parent: I had never looked at the concern in quite that way, but now that you’ve mentioned it, the flow of money from the Gate Foundation has been driving alot of public policy around how public education transforms huh ??

Got to do some more digging on that one.

November

July 19th, 2010
9:30 am

I’m voting for Karen Handel, the only honest candidate running for the Republican nomination. As for schools, I really don’t think it matters who runs the DOE; however, I do know that the APS, the DCSS, the CCSS and probably the GCSS are doomed unless the idiots now running the systems are runoff and that they start hiring teachers based on other qualifications besides being black.

Folks, if you love the State Of Georgia, do not…..I repeat, do not vote for King Roy Barnes. This guy is just like POTUS, he’ll say absolutely anything to get elected and look what a mess he’s managed to get us in.

Vince

July 19th, 2010
9:33 am

I only know that I will NOT vote for Barnes. Never, ever, under any circumstance could I see that happening.

I will read yesterday’s AJC’s (or maybe it was the Gwinnett Post’s) article summarizing all of the candidates and their stands on various issues tonight. Then I will make my decision.

But it would NEVER be Barnes.

Involved Parent

July 19th, 2010
9:35 am

I’m 99% sure I’m voting for Dubose Porter for governor. I doubt it matters as I’m sure Barnes will win the democratic primary. Of all the Democrats running, Porter seems like he’s the one who prioritizes education the highest and that is why I’m leaning toward him.

Ray

July 19th, 2010
9:37 am

Instead of taking time to vote for a republican, just slap your kid in the face.

Vince

July 19th, 2010
9:43 am

@ Ray. I am an Independent so I don’t really care what you say about the Republican party, but I am curious as to why you would say that. Do you blame the collapse of the country’s economy on Georgia Republicans?

From an educator’s standpoint I have much more anger toward the policies of Roy Barnes first turn in office and the policies of Kennedy and McCain’s NCLB than I do any Georgia Republican.

td

July 19th, 2010
9:52 am

Ray, How is that vote for Obama working out for you? Please explain to me how a Democratic is going to work out better? There is no way Barnes can implement the promises he has made. That would take a huge tax increase and the citizens of this state will no allow such an increase. If you have a Dem for Superintendent or Governor then all you are going to get is four years of fighting between the two parties for who is get credit or take the blame for everything that happens.

EnoughAlready

July 19th, 2010
9:52 am

No, the robo calls do not pay off. I hung up the phone about 7 times yesterday and almost decided to take the phone off the hook.

I will not be reading or listening to anything; I’m just going to sleep on it tonight and make my decision tomorrow morning. I’m leaning toward Roy Barnes, but I really don’t want to vote for him. However, I know he has experience and I guess that counts for something.

Teacher&mom

July 19th, 2010
9:56 am

Porter for governor. Undecided about school superintendent.

South Metro Teacher

July 19th, 2010
10:13 am

@ Nothing We Can Do: Curious…why do you say that about Barge? I am undecided.

Dunwoody Mom

July 19th, 2010
10:14 am

The massive failure of the educational system in this country is the fault of both political parties and points out that politcians should be not be in the business of deciding educational policy.

Nothing We Can Do

July 19th, 2010
10:39 am

South Metro: I work in Bartow County and despite what his friend td says, we can’t wait to see him go.

New Blood

July 19th, 2010
10:44 am

Kira Willis – Absolutely the only prospect for change. A a teacher, a Mom and a Libertarian running in November. She’s not on the ballot this summer. A breath of fresh air!

high school teacher

July 19th, 2010
11:08 am

td

July 19th, 2010
11:20 am

South Metro Teacher, Nothing we ca do is a hack for another political campaign because I have asked him/her to back up their claim and have seen nothing but generalities. I know a great deal of teachers in Bartow county and they all support Johns efforts to become superintendent because they think he would work for their best interest. I also have seen local school board members, administrators and parents come out in force to some of his campaign events in the county and wholeheartedly support him.

Bartow is a pretty big school system and one would think if John was as bad as “nothing we can do” is alleging then there would be more people on here warning the bloggers?

What's best for kids?

July 19th, 2010
12:06 pm

I like Eric Johnson for Governor. Will vote for Willis come November.

Mary

July 19th, 2010
12:21 pm

Regardless of your choice, please don’t be a single-issue voter. This is how we end up the the Ralph Reeds and Cynthia McKinneys.

Lisa B.

July 19th, 2010
12:24 pm

No Republican for Governor. The Republican candidates all seem to have agendas to undermine, and/or reduce public education. By spending money on vouchers, pouring money into excessive testing, and continuing austerity cuts when the State had money, the Republicans have proven to me that public education is not a priority. As a Republican myself, I’ve attended many local and state Republican functions over the years. I am alarmed when Republican officials make comments like “we need to get away from the idea of brick and mortar schools,” and “parents should take resposibility for their children’s education.” Churches should get more involved.” “Schools could be small virtual academies, and few teachers would be needed.” “We will end QBE funding and have local systems apply for block grants.” “Give all parents vouchers for their children and let the parents figure out where to send the kids.” That type of talk scares me to death!

I campaigned hard eight years ago to help Sonny defeat Barnes. In retrospect, that was a mistake. I am voting for Barnes tomorrow. I am still undecided on State School Superintendent.

ScienceTeacher671

July 19th, 2010
12:38 pm

Agree about the robocalls. The only reason I’ve answered the phone is because it’s easier than erasing them from the voicemail.

For governor, I like both Dubose Porter and David Poythress a lot and am having trouble deciding between them, not that it will matter if you believe the polls – I’m hoping the undecideds will make a difference here and at least give King Roy a runoff.

For SSS, my choices will be between Farouki, Martin and Westlake. I really like that Martin wants to redo the funding formula and was trying to ensure that the state adequately funded all schools, but his big money donations concern me. I don’t think the argument that Westlake is the only classroom teacher is very persuasive; Kathy Cox and Linda Schrenko were classroom teachers too.

My God

July 19th, 2010
12:41 pm

A blog moderator who has dodged more issues than Han Solo has dodged asteroids actually has the nerve to call this truth or dare?

As Wayne and Garth would say if they ran this blog, “Blather on Dudes! You’re paying my mortgage and that’s the real purpose of this blog!”

reality check

July 19th, 2010
12:44 pm

Well since Bush got us in the “new crusades” against everyone in the world; it is gonna take time to repair relations. Congress controls the purse stings perhaps we need at the Fed level republican control of congress and a dem pres. I mean we had surplus money with that set up last time.

But that stops at the state level; the GA republicans have gotten us all the way to the crash site with the engine they have been running. Obama is a deal maker he just wants to get stuff done; Pelosi and Reid are where the liberal rubber meets the road.

Not sure about State super: I can tell you it will NOT be anyone “in the know” . Any cronies I am not voting for and believe me I have made a LIST.

chips in the brain, lol

birthers, omg rofl

Veteran teacher, 2

July 19th, 2010
12:47 pm

Is there anyway to make the robocalls go away???????

Old Timer Educator

July 19th, 2010
1:35 pm

Anyone but Barnes!!!! We worked too hard to get him out of office to put him back in. I suggest everyone remembers why we wanted him out to start with!!!!!!

Vince

July 19th, 2010
1:43 pm

@ Lisa B.

Surely you jest!

David S

July 19th, 2010
2:01 pm

I am supporting the free market because only it can deliver quality education for kids. Government is a failure at everything it does. Are there any candidates who support the free market? Not in a republican or democratic primary. The Libertarians in the general election will certainly get my vote.

Katie

July 19th, 2010
2:45 pm

Well, my newly deceased father (a die-hard Republican who thought Oliver North was a hero)may get up out of the ground, but I voted for a Democrat for the first time in my life–Barnes. I did it because he has told me twice, personally to my face, that he will restore my National Board stipend. While I don’t completely trust him (he IS a politician, after all), he at least is saying the right thing. Handel told me to my face I wouldn’t get my money. Oxendine is a snake who will say anything to get elected. The rest of the candidates have NO chance.

I can only hope Mr. Barnes can keep his promise. If not, I’ll be eating beans and ramen noodles for the rest of my career while working three jobs to keep my house.

Maureen Downey

July 19th, 2010
2:54 pm

@Katie, The story of this primary may be Handel’s rise and Oxendine’s fall.
Maureen

Lynn

July 19th, 2010
3:04 pm

Oxendine is so corrupt, that I will vote for anyone opposing him. If he becomes the Republican choice, I will even vote for Barnes. So sad to have to waste a vote to ensure someone is not elected.

gamom

July 19th, 2010
4:03 pm

I’m voting for the LEAST ethically challenged. Suggestions?

gamom

July 19th, 2010
4:04 pm

I’m definintely not voting for someone – Karen Handel couldn’t manage to attend the last debate – so def not voting for her.

gamom

July 19th, 2010
4:05 pm

I thought I heard Oxendine say he would cut or remove income tax…..am I wrong?

RobertNAtl

July 19th, 2010
4:16 pm

Well, I voted a couple of weeks ago….DuBose Porter for Governor, Beth Farokhi for State School Superintendent. Although I think Brian Westlake is also a very impressive candidate.

Side note on Karen Handel: I think the Governor of Georgia should be a college graduate.