7:15 pm June 9, 2010, by Maureen Downey
Roy Barnes apologizes to teachers in a new video. Are teachers satisfied with this effort or is this too little too late?
June 9th, 20107:30 pm
God help us, he’s as good a choice as any in this
contest of fools.
doesn’t say much for Georgia, does it?
June 9th, 20107:35 pm
I wonder how many teachers are thinking he should sit up straight in his chair.
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June 9th, 20107:41 pm
one of the many bits of Perdue fallout.
what little (very little, mind you) trust I had
in state politicians is totally gone.
Roy could have THE CURE, singed by God, for education in
Georgia and I’m still not gonna believe in it.
June 9th, 20107:43 pm
doesn’t he sound a bit like a man caught cheating on his wife?
June 9th, 20107:44 pm
@bootney, He didn’t mention hiking on the AT.
June 9th, 20108:00 pm
too little….too late,,,,
He told me to sit down and shut up in 1999 and at that time I vowed to never listen to him again.
June 9th, 20108:02 pm
@VInce, Is that literally or figuratively?
Color me confused
June 9th, 20108:13 pm
We have a revenue problem in this state. If we don’t elect a governor who will increase revenue, teachers can only expect their plight to get worse, not better.
June 9th, 20108:19 pm
Good ad. Timely and appropriate. Teachers have learned a lot over the last eight years. Apparently so has Roy.
June 9th, 20108:30 pm
When is the posting about all the re-hiring in Cobb coming? I am so looking forward to reliving all the “feel sorry for the poor teachers” histrionics.
June 9th, 20108:37 pm
@waaaaahhhh!!!!! – Did you get detention too often as a child, or are you just really desperate for some attention?
June 9th, 20108:44 pm
I have to give him credit for apologizing for the way he treated teachers in the past because very few politicians ever humble themselves to apologize for the mistakes they make, and the impact their mistakes have on those they have offended. At least none of us lost our jobs or were furloughed under his leadership even though we did not totally approve of HB 1187.
June 9th, 20108:45 pm
For me it’s too little, too late. Roy Barnes had his chance and I’m not confident that he won’t get into office and repeat his mistakes.
June 9th, 20108:49 pm
We are mandated by our state constitution to balance our budget each and every year. Our state revenues were 21 billion in 2007. Our revenues have decreased each year since to about 17.5 billion this year. (3 billion of this is stimulus funds that will end this year). 70% of our states budget goes to pay education and medicaid.
Roy left Sonny with a 500 million deficit in the rainy day fund when he left office and Sonny built that fund back up to 3 billion by 2007. Sonny used all of this fund in 2007, 08 and 09 to keep from cutting education while at the same time the rest of the state government, (besides medicaid) under the control of the Governor (30% of revenues) have been cut from 25 to 50%.
In the 2010 budget there was no money left to draw from and he could not cut the rest of Government any further without substantially effecting services (BTW: Did you know that the number of child protective services investigators have been cut by 50% since 2007). The only choice left was to cut education and medicaid this year to do what he was constitutionally required to do.
Now for all the delusional people out here who think Roy will be able to keep his promise to not have more furloughs for teachers and give them pay raises I have a question. How is he going to pay for these promises? We are going to loose 3 billion in federal funds next year and he would also need to come up with 1 to 2 billion to do away with the furloughs not to mention probably another 1 billion to give the pay raises. That is 6 billion dollars. Do you really think our economy building fast enough to increase the revenues by 6 billion between now and net January? More than likely if Barnes wins he will still have a Republican House and Senate to deal with. Do you think they are going to agree and pass legislation to raise 6 billion dollars worth of taxes (not a chance)? Even if the Republicans agreed to look at tax increases, where is the money going to come from? Who do you think should be getting this tax increase?
Is this commercial Roy’s attempt to pander to educators and try to pull the wool over your eyes again or is he really this delusional? The truth that none of the candidates are speaking is that next years budget is going to be worse than this year and educators are going to even be cut more (no matter who the governor is). The real issue here for teachers is do you want to vote for Roy and have RTTT implemented and with it merit pay (that will do away with your step increases) or do you want to find a Republican that is totally against this Obama mess and at least have your step increases
Oh but it was Roy
June 9th, 20108:53 pm
Oh, but it WAS your intent not to treasure them.
In fact, it was your intention to demonize them for political gain, a transparent attempt to become a player on the national stage.
If you were HONEST and apologized for it, teachers MIGHT have forgiven you. Instead, you revealed yourself: King Rat Roy, Version 2.0
June 9th, 20108:58 pm
People will say anything to get elected. Roy Barnes lied before and he’ll do it again given the chance. I still have the bumper sticker that reads, “Anybody But Roy.” I haven’t forgotten, Mr. Barnes.
June 9th, 20109:15 pm
Did he not only sit up in his chair straight, neither did he look straight into the camera. Was the camera man on his knees in front of him?
Barnes has had years to apologize if he wanted. Now it’s election time. This is an apology of convenience……meant solely to deflect the wrath of teachers who were on the receiving end of his arrogance and bullying.
June 9th, 20109:17 pm
Soooooooooooo, why did Roy tell you to sit down and shut up? Perhaps, if you give a little more detail we all might “NIX” Roy. Thanks!
What a liar. He hasn’t learned anything, just saying whatever he needs to say to get elected. I’m still not voting for you Roy.
June 9th, 20109:19 pm
I attended a teacher leadership conference years ago at GSU where some of Roy Barnes’ top leadership people spoke. I have rarely seen any group in a leadership capacity act so arrogantly and with such smug superiority (other than the current BOE and superintendent in the Fulton County Schools – a very similar bunch) with a “holier than thou” attitudes towards teachers as these people did. I can’t imagine that he’s changed his stripes that much since then. Teachers and anybody else would be wise to ignore this man and his cronies.
June 9th, 20109:23 pm
Not only will the teachers back him, but they’ll be one of the major reasons he wins – teachers, anyone with kids, or anyone with an IQ over 50.
Oh but Roy oh so right
June 9th, 20109:24 pm
Poster Oh but Roy is so right. It’s a dishonest apology from a dishonest person. Even being stuck with the flotsam the Republicans offer is better than bringing Roy back in the long run, because it will teach politicians once and for all not to try to make a career off of scapegoating teachers, for they will pay, and pay dearly, years into the future.
The only way for Roy to make amends was to make honest amends, and he failed miserably.
The dog didn’t eat your homework Roy; you just didn’t do it.
RBN is confused
June 9th, 20109:29 pm
So Roy’s got his lackeys working the blogs eh? RBN ought to be sponsored by Saran Wrap; RBN is that transparent. If RBN thinks this is a good ad, then neither Roy or RBN has learned anything over the last eight years.
Roy's got options
June 9th, 20109:34 pm
Roy if this doesn’t pan out, you and your sycophants in the ad can form a new music group:
Roy and the Three Judases.
June 9th, 20109:41 pm
Are teachers satisfied? Nah. if he would donate one of his testicles as a sign that he is serious, I would…..still not believe him.
June 9th, 20109:44 pm
I will vote for the person who will allow liquor sales on Sundays and raise the cigarette tax. That will be a good start. I hope public school teachers remember that Republicans would love to eliminate public schools with vouchers. It pains me to say that because most Democrats are looney tune liberals.
June 9th, 20109:45 pm
Maybe if the 5th grade teacher who said Roy had teachers’ best interest at heart wasn’t still in high school when Roy was trying to take her future due process rights away she’d have a bit more credibility.
Or maybe she can just come on here and explain how taking away a teacher’s due process rights is in their best interests.
June 9th, 20109:49 pm
Here’s a freebie to all of King Roy’s opponents: King Roy had to resort to using teachers who were in high school when he was governor just to find three of them who would speak up for him.
June 9th, 20109:51 pm
Catlady you’re a veteran teacher. Don’t you find it hysterical that King Rat had to use teachers who were in HIGH SCHOOL when he was governor?
June 9th, 201010:04 pm
After the last 8 years I can’t wait to see what idiot teachers want to inflict upon us because they feel dissed. Topping Sonny Perdue would be a real feather in the cap. He’s worked out so well for everyone who enjoys sitting in paralyzed traffic, sipping trucked-in water, or watching bottom-feeding students struggle to make change at McDonald’s.
June 9th, 201010:07 pm
Um Aquagirl, no one needs to “topple” Sonny; he’s constitutionally barred from running for re-election.
And it’s one thing to be “dissed”. It’s another thing to support someone who tried to abolish teacher’s due process rights.
June 9th, 201010:08 pm
teachers’ due process rights that is. And he did it immediately after promising specifically not to, so not only did he not support teachers, he lied.
June 9th, 201010:09 pm
Roy did make some mistakes when he was Gov, but any teacher will tell you that things have been worse under Sonny than they ever were (or ever could have been) under Roy. Roy was ahead of the curve when it came to accountability – just because people weren’t ready to accept it at the time doesn’t mean that Roy was all wrong. I’m glad he’s back, and he’ll get my vote.
June 9th, 201010:10 pm
Well…I just don’t know, Maureen. Actually, I don’t really think we can trust any of the candidates …for any office.
Pitiful, isn’t it?
We…..all of us with careers in teaching….just cannot seem to get off the path to perdition.!!! And Roy Barnes surely isn’t the one to deflect our handbasket off the road to H—!
June 9th, 201010:11 pm
I don’t know who is the bigger boob here–Roy “I can’t sit up straight in my chair” Barnes, or the teachers who are supporting him…
June 9th, 201010:13 pm
Retired, explain how abolishing a teacher’s due process rights is good for teachers.
Then explain how LYING about it and doing it days after you SPECIFICALLY said you wouldn’t makes Roy deserve the voters’ trust.
June 9th, 201010:16 pm
Um Aquagirl: Teachers in Georgia have never had any real due process rights. It is a rigged game unless teachers can afford huge legal expenses.
June 9th, 201010:17 pm
Some of these comments are perplexing to me. How can anyone think that what’s been going on is OK? My husband and I are both teachers without tenure. He lost his job in Cobb Co because of the cuts. If there is someone who can fix this mess than I will gladly give them another shot. So far the only one who seems to make any sense is Roy Barnes.
June 9th, 201010:18 pm
Roy Barnes had 2 nieces that attended Oakwood High School in Cobb County.
That school is now closing. It was a terrific school that helped thousands of non-traditional students, who otherwise would have remained drop outs, graduate.
Why has he not extended an olive-branch to the Cobb County School Board on Oakwood High School’s behalf? It helped his family; why won’t he help ours?
Thank goodness that we had a Repulican governor the last eight years with this bad economy! I would hate to have seen where we would have been with a Democrat at this time!
June 9th, 201010:21 pm
Now William, you know it might be a rigged game, but at least it’s a game they (administration) have to play. Imagine if they don’t have to have ANY documentation; at least when they try to do a hatchet job now, there is the chance of them messing up.
Barnes and then Perdue-12 years of education bashing and 12 years of sorry Department of Education Leaders. Between the Federal Government’s NCLB act and RTTT and the Tearing apart of the GADOE under Shrenko and the constant changing spineless agenda of Kathy Cox, Voters have got to get it right this time.
June 9th, 201010:22 pm
When he put together Bill 1187, he got his team together. Few were teachers and he was right. He did not listen to teacher’s input. GAE was so disappointed in him that they actually supported Perdue, a Republican candidate! I remember feeling very angry at how he talked about teachers. Many teachers were very upset that they had voted for him.
June 9th, 201010:23 pm
Roy has my vote. I’ve never voted for a Democrat before, including voting against Roy in earlier elections. However, like one teacher said earlier, Roy wasn’t perfect, but he would have never made some of the politically driven decisions that Sonny and this Republican leadership has. They have totally lost my confidence. They are totally unsupportive of teachers and play politics when talking to us. I am not a Republican or a Democrat, but I have always voted with Republicans because of moral issues. I have lost my confidence in their leadership and It’s time for a change, and I’m willing to vote Democrat, for the firs time ever, to send a message to the Republicans. I can only hope that other people are as disgusted with this “leadership” as I am.
There are plenty of teachers who support Roy, and they aren’t “boobs”. I am a teacher – I was a teacher when Roy was governor – and I voted against him in 2002. I’ve regretted it ever since and I’ll be voting for him this year.
June 9th, 201010:25 pm
To Teachers: this is politics. Beware. Be well informed and make a sound vote. Do not let his late, late apology (PUHLEEEZE) make a difference. That is so foolish. Politics, politics. It is difficult to be informed, but do your research…you know how. And judge for yourself. Also, b ware of the silly White Rose people. They are as bad. Actually they are so filled with their own agendas, I never pay them any attention.
For those who think Roy wasn’t so bad; if the economy stays this way for another year or 2 and he gets rid of the due process rights (again), guess who the first teachers to get sent packing are. There goes all the veteran teachers (most with higher degrees) that schools will want to unload to lower the salary/benefit portion of their budgets. Of course the county offices will get to keep ALL of the overpaid “friends and family” at the county offices.
I want somebody to tell me how we continue to build new schools and giving million dollar grants for facility improvements and we don’t have the money to pay teachers to teach in these new buildings. I know of one system that just built a new high school and just received a 9 million dollar grant for facility improvements. Is somebody going to tell me some common sense shouldn’t be used and money, since it is there, be allotted to where it could be used for the proper needs.
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