Barnes speaks to teachers in new ad. Are they listening?

Here is Roy Barnes’ newest TV ad that speaks to Georgia teachers.  Is the olive branch working?

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Joel

June 3rd, 2010
2:03 pm

Wonderful but, not once do you tell us how you intend to pay for all this

Tony

June 3rd, 2010
2:05 pm

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

high school teacher

June 3rd, 2010
2:07 pm

Looks like it will come down to Barnes vs Oxendine. Gee…pick your poison,,,

another HS teacher

June 3rd, 2010
2:40 pm

I must agree with HS teacher – what choices do we really have – other than picking a lesser evil. I will vote against the Republican candidate, but not for Barnes.

EnoughAlready

June 3rd, 2010
2:40 pm

Not a teacher, but as a parent……I’ll take Barnes. I don’t like Oxendine at ALL.

Bell Curve

June 3rd, 2010
2:46 pm

Anyone who doesn’t vote for the Democrat is just endorsing the GOP plan to gut public education in this state. Barnes wouldn’t be my first choice either, but to continue to elect Republicans is just crazy.

V for Vendetta

June 3rd, 2010
2:52 pm

Then why doesn’t someone run against them as an Independent?

drew (former teacher)

June 3rd, 2010
2:53 pm

It sounds and looks just like every politician I’ve ever seen…saying whatever needs to be said to get elected. And like Joel said, how does he intend to pay for these promises…the money simply isn’t there. And what’s really disgusting, is that Roy Barnes KNOWS the money is not there, and will not be there anytime soon. But giving the voters the truth won’t get him elected.

Angela

June 3rd, 2010
2:58 pm

@Tony

June 3rd, 2010
2:05 pm
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks George Bush! (at least you (Tony) got the saying correct).

mift

June 3rd, 2010
2:58 pm

So the switch from Barnes has had an upside for teachers. Repubs have been a disaster for us.

catlady

June 3rd, 2010
3:11 pm

Take the “olive branch” and beat him over the head with it! H3ll no, we don’t fergit!

Angela

June 3rd, 2010
3:11 pm

Hello All,

I am feeling some kind of way about Roy. Like Tony stated – Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Roy is appealing to teachers because he truly recognizes that we put him in office the first two times and got him out the last go round. He is also, aware that he well needs all educators to put him back in office. The question is can we trust him this go round.

Must we forget that he made many statements that we the teachers are the reason that students are failing in the classroom. His advertisement above is suppose to be him communicating with teachers and stating what he won’t take away from teachers and that education will be his first priority. The number one question is – where is all of this money going to come from? The number two question is – what are the demands going to be of all of the (poor and no good teachers) inside of the classroom? If we were so poor before what is making us so good now to get all of what he is proposing.

The General

June 3rd, 2010
3:14 pm

@ high school teacher

“pick your poison”…truer words were never spoken. We have the crappiest group of guv wannabees I’ve ever seen. This goes for both parties.

Chris

June 3rd, 2010
3:14 pm

Well there a lot of ways to pay for funding education in Georgia. The legislature and the current Governor have simply refused to do it. All solutions do require tax increases and cuts other places though – something not easy to swallow in a deep recession, but necessary to educate our children. Raising the cigarette and/or alcohol tax is one way, as well as sales taxes locally (and most counties have refused to do that).

Angela

June 3rd, 2010
3:18 pm

@EnoughAlready,

I too guess if I had to make a choice it would be Roy. Oxindine has no clue about education (and not too sure about insurance – neither does Roy) however, at least Roy has been there twice and has a mini clue.

EnoughAlready

June 3rd, 2010
3:24 pm

I just hope that the teachers don’t sit on the sideline. You just have to weigh the good and the bad. In my opinion, Oxendine is absolutely the worst. I honestly believe that Barnes will do more for education than Oxendine. I’m no fan, but it looks like the other choices will not make it through the primary election.

another HS teacher

June 3rd, 2010
3:28 pm

@ V,

I think that the unfortunate fact of life is that very few of us actually want to be a life-time politician – or even a part-time one. So, we must seek someone who are closest to our views – and often on a limited set of issues. I can easily see the possibility of a governor who is very good to education in GA but not that good for, say, transportations in the state.

We need to rethink Barnes

June 3rd, 2010
3:40 pm

Yes Governor, Johnny still can’t read and we, as classroom teachers, are just as troubled by this reality as you have been for the last decade. Your willingness to take on this issue as a key plank in your proposed platform certainly speaks to your dedication to this plight even though teachers may be largely credited with your the loss of the Governor’s Mansion 8 years ago (regardless of what the flag wavers may have claimed).

Although I did not support Governor Barnes at the ballot box 8 years ago, I truly appreciate his willingness to look at the large white elephant in the Georgia living room, while many other candidates do not seem to recognize the problem facing our state. It is vital to this state’s future that we do not squander the ability to meet the needs of our future economic machines by ignoring the changing realities in the workforce.

Simply put, our state has a moral obligation, to the next generation of Georgians, which means to competently address the future economic needs of this state in the area of human capital (education). Failure to understand and address these issues will result in situation similar to abandoned mining towns found throughout the Wild West. Other states may (scratch that) WILL step in to fulfill needs of business in the area of human capital if we falter in our resolve to move forward and implement true educational reform which should be student centered. If this educational reality is not dealt with in the near future, leaders will need to clean up the signs which say “Thanks for Visiting Georgia” and not worry about the look of the signs proudly proclaiming “Welcome to Georgia”.

Finally, I believe most Georgians would agree; we can no longer afford to avoid this potential train wreck and simply tape the sign on our school house doors “GONE FISHING”.

Dr. Andy. Steinhauser
Classroom Teacher

Intruder

June 3rd, 2010
3:49 pm

Tax increases? Just how many more tax increasesv can we stand? With Obama and national Dems, not only do we face massive federal tax increases but the states will be forced to increase taxes to fund the unfunded mandates! The states are passing along some of these wonderful unfunded mandates to the counties who, in turn, are increasing their taxes. The county that I live in requires you to pay ’school tax’ until you die – there is no ‘age cap’ on the tax. The products of government schools are, for the most part, poorly educated.

chuck

June 3rd, 2010
3:49 pm

I can’t believe that ANY educator would vote for Barnes after the first time (BTW, Barnes did NOT serve 2 terms. He was voted out by teachers after what he did to us in his only term as governor.) Barnes is a disease.He is totally lacking in integrity. He is a liar and worst of all, he has NO REGARD for teachers. I for one will not be giving him a second chance to screw me over. I’ll take my chances with Ox. My advice to teachers is to get involved now. Email Oxendine and tell him what he needs to do to help education. the key is getting involved with him early. He is going to be the governor, we can help form his education plan if we start now.

BILL LUMBERG

June 3rd, 2010
3:51 pm

ANGELA…YOU ARE AN IDIOT

another HS teacher

June 3rd, 2010
4:00 pm

@ chuck,

You need to remember that there are a lot of teachers out there who weren’t around when Barnes was a governor. We had these wonderful 8 years for Sonny, and there are many young teachers and teachers moving in from other states.

I don’t see why Oxendine is more “educable” than Barnes. In some ways, Barnes are more likely to take teachers seriously because of his past issues. Why should Oxendine take teachers seriously when Sonny has been able to just ignore education for the last 8 years. Trusting a Republican after 8 years of a Republican administration may be just as idiotic.

oneofeach4me

June 3rd, 2010
4:05 pm

What seems to me as a vicious circle is….. teacher’s voted Barnes in the 1st time around. Then, they voted Purdue in for both terms as he promised them the world. Neither one of these jack**** delivered. So now what? Trust Oxendine? eeehhh…. nope. I must say I don’t remember this many cuts to education happening when Barnes was Governor.

And just to go ahead and address this…. yeah we weren’t in a recession when Barnes was Governor, but we weren’t Sonny’s 1st time around either.

Freedom Education

June 3rd, 2010
4:09 pm

John Monds is running for Governor

“Parents should have more choices and responsibility in making educational decisions for their children.

My administration will emphasize all forms of education. I will encourage more charter schools and a tax credit worth up to $4,000 to parents who choose to educate their children in a private school or at home.”

http://www.votemonds.com/issues_education.html

Proud Black Man

June 3rd, 2010
4:20 pm

Follow the link to the OBVIOUS choice for governor. Will it happen? No. WAY TOO MANY tea (insert the name that cannot be mentioned) and members of the white right who love to cut off their nose to spite their face.

http://www.thurbertbaker.com/splash/043010

another HS teacher

June 3rd, 2010
4:23 pm

@ Freedom,

I don’t know about other teachers, but I would not support a voucher system. I also don’t support more charter schools, either. So, Monds is easily out.

I do have one question – I’m not a social studies teachers. Is the term limit in GA for 2 consecutive terms, or 2 terms altogether. In other words, can Barnes go for 4 years or 8 years? As much as I hate those politicians who seem to be concerned only about their re-election, I am not so sure about electing a lame-duck governor who doesn’t have to face the consequences of his actions as a governor. Still, I might have to go with Barnes over Oxendine.

retired teacher

June 3rd, 2010
4:24 pm

Thank god my new state has better choices..But my vote would have been ABB anyone but Barnes…I do not fool too easy.

David S

June 3rd, 2010
4:36 pm

I still can’t believe that this clown is the best the democrats can scare up. Man, if this doesn’t confirm that our state is never going to get any better by relying on the actions of government, I don’t know what is. Not that the republican field is any better. Can an absence of government really be worse than this??

ZaneSmith's teeth

June 3rd, 2010
4:38 pm

As a teacher who moved down here right at the start of Sonny’s reign of terror, I don’t have any ill-will toward Roy, although I know the history. Barnes is a politician, he will do and say what he needs to get elected. Thankfully, this cylce it means catering to teachers. Say what you want, I would rather a politician cater to education (with all it’s imperfections) than rural special interest pet projects or tax breaks for the already wealthy.
As to the calls of where will he get the money? Folks,,,the money is there (provided we don’t have another economic meltdown). It’s just been spent on nonsense like the fishing hall of fame, middle georgia pork projects (Sonny’s area), and tax breaks for businesses that do not create near enough jobs to justify the loss of income those tax breaks provide.

another HS teacher

June 3rd, 2010
4:42 pm

@PBM,

I suppose your implicit message is that Baker has no chance because he is a black. Your observation might be correct, I would definitely vote for him if he is the Democratic candidate. I did check his web page, but he doesn’t have anything about education up, yet. The only thing that has any connection to education was that he was a legislator when the HOPE scholarship program was created.

Until and unless he makes his views on education more explicit, I can’t decide whether or not I will vote for him.

Tina

June 3rd, 2010
5:15 pm

Could someone please school me as to why teachers are so upset with Barnes? What in the heck did he do???

Devil's Advocate

June 3rd, 2010
5:47 pm

Intruder- What tax increase? Please illuminate me… I am thoroughly middle class and my taxes have gone down since Obama came into office.

Just because Limbaugh tells you that your taxes have gone up, doesn’t make it so…

JP

June 3rd, 2010
6:00 pm

I know another Democrat running for Governor is Thurbert Baker. Can’t all the democrats get together and vote him as the Democrat for governor? Anybody but Barnes. As an educator, after what Barnes did to us the first time, I never want to see him in office again. The result would be worse.

teacher/learner

June 3rd, 2010
6:02 pm

I keep asking Roy: WHEN are you planning on ending teacher furloughs, WHEN will we see our raises return, WHEN will our class size return to numbers of children that can really be taught…no time frame is given with the promises – could you ask Roy, Maureen?

nothing new

June 3rd, 2010
6:25 pm

Lassie the Dog VS. Bozo The Clown !!! Who will YOU vote for?

Angela

June 3rd, 2010
6:33 pm

BILL LUMBERG

June 3rd, 2010
3:51 pm
ANGELA…YOU ARE AN IDIOT
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Thank You! You would seem to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bell Curve

June 3rd, 2010
6:40 pm

Georgia has some of the lowest cigarette and alcohol taxes in the nation. If the people of Arizona are willing to pay another penny in sales tax from 5.5 to 6.5 then why aren’t the people of Georgia?

Angela

June 3rd, 2010
6:46 pm

@Devil’s Advocate,

Although LUMBERG, is loving. I live inside of Gwinnett (Suwanee) and my taxes went up and it appears they are going up again to pay for this on going trash war. We just go the notice on yesterday that the money to pay for the pick-up will be included in our tax bills.

no tax raises

June 3rd, 2010
7:18 pm

All those teacher complaints about the lack of cuts at the central offices seem to suggest that there are still plenty of waste in the school system. So, why should tax payers agree to an increase in taxes? If the system is mismanaging their money, it’s too bad. Don’t ask us to keep pouring money in to be wasted.

Devil's Advocate

June 3rd, 2010
7:51 pm

Are those federal trash taxes Angela? I doubt Obama had anything to do with your trash taxes.

Seriously? You’re working on your doctorate. Wow…

Logic 88

June 3rd, 2010
8:05 pm

This moron makes the Ox man look smart. What a complete joke. How does King Roy intend to pay for all of this. Oh, he doesn’t say…I wonder why. Only the most naive believe this load of crap.

King Roy

June 3rd, 2010
8:09 pm

I will change water into wine and make Georgia shine.
I will cut taxes 100% and increase services 100%…only a Democrat can make empty promises like this and have the public believe it!
That’s the great part about being a Democrat!

Educator2

June 3rd, 2010
8:12 pm

Teachers, remember if Barnes is elected, he cannot run again so he has nothing to lose by not keeping his promises. If Ox wins, he will continue the Perdue education agenda and the GOP education agenda (merit pay, education budget reductions, etc) with the majority ruled GOP state legislators. Ox clearly has lobbyist interest and greed as his priority. Perdue is a perfect example of how the governorship position can earn you millions of dollars at the expense of taxpayers (ex. his land deals in Florida, road deals, tax exempt for the wealthy seniors, which of course was designed for himself!). Ox has the same game plan. I am personally considering Baker, Dubose or Poythress. I agree it may come down to the lesser of two evils, if Barnes and Ox are the two choices. I need to start praying…..that is scary.

Rev Al Sharptongue

June 3rd, 2010
8:14 pm

Attention all Georgia Teachers:

Please grow up. The entire US economy is in the toilet. The economy will stay there until Obama and his lap dogs stop spending money we don’t have. Once the economy turns around…you will get your raises again. Be thankful you work for government. The private sector requires performance not just seniority.

Tyrone

June 3rd, 2010
8:16 pm

Poythress is the only Democrat with a brain. Support him….

Billy T.

June 3rd, 2010
8:17 pm

Right on Rev Al Sharptongue !!!

HStchr

June 3rd, 2010
9:04 pm

I’m praying for an independent candidate. Oxendine is corrupt and will be no better than Sonny. Barnes is a fool and can’t seriously expect teachers to forget or forgive his mistakes. Perdue won solely because teachers would have voted for Mickey Mouse rather than give Barnes another shot at us. I’m really not happy about this election. I can’t vote for Oxendine or Barnes with a clear conscience.

itpdude

June 3rd, 2010
9:06 pm

Ox as Gov? I don’t know. What are his positions? I do remember he had to have his lights removed from his vehicle because he was screwing around, acting like Buford Justice with this faux cop-car.

He’s like a big ole frat boy who never grew up. But that’s cool. What are his positions?

d

June 3rd, 2010
9:06 pm

Educator2…. I believe he can run again — a governor is not term limited to two terms indefinitely. The Constitution says a governor cannot succeed himself more than once, but they can run again after sitting out a term…. “Persons who have held the office of Governor and have succeeded themselves as hereinbefore provided shall not again be eligible to be elected to that office until after the expiration of four years from the conclusion of their term as Governor.” (Article V, Section I, Paragraph I, Georgia Constitution).

I truly believe that for teachers, the best option is either Porter or Poythress, but as I’ve been reminded on multiple occasions, Barnes may be the only one who can beat the anti-public education candidates — I won’t say just Republicans, because we do have Republican friends in the General Assembly.

high school teacher

June 3rd, 2010
9:14 pm

I really like Poythress as well. I wish he would start making some commercials…