Immigrants on campus: Candidate proposes “Citizenship Verification for Higher Education Act”

As the ferocity of the responses here on the blog illustrate, many people believe illegal immigrants are overrunning Georgia’s colleges and universities and stealing seats and resources from legal citizens of the state. I think the greater problem is that Georgia still doesn’t have enough people graduating high school, enrolling in its colleges and universities and finishing them, but that isn’t as easily distilled to a political slogan.

So, now we have a bill from Georgia gubernatorial candidate Eric Johnson. Here is Johnson’s answer to what apparently everybody but me thinks is a huge problem, owing to the recent revelations that a young woman from Mexico who has lived here since she was 10 attends Kennesaw State:

Sen. Eric Johnson, Republican candidate for governor, today unveiled draft legislation that would ensure only legal residents are admitted to Georgia’s institutions of higher learning.

“Citizenship verification isn’t complicated or expensive, and by changing just a few sentences in existing law we can ensure that only legal residents are enrolled in our taxpayer subsidized colleges and universities,” said Johnson.  “While I am offering commonsense solutions to fix the problem, the bureaucracy has retreated to their usual delay tactics, fear mongering, and excuses.  Well, let me be clear- it is unacceptable to ignore the law.  If our public college and universities won’t voluntarily address this issue, I will as governor.”

The Citizenship Verification for Higher Education Act would require that students applying to Georgia’s colleges, universities, and technical schools complete an affidavit swearing to their lawful presence in the United States.  That information would be verified using the Department of Homeland Security’s SAVE (Systematic Alien Verification of Entitlement) program.

According to published reports, education bureaucrats are claiming that, by asking students to simply check a box self-identifying their immigration status and never verifying those claims, “the University System is doing everything within its power”. They also claim that they “don’t know” how illegal immigrants are getting around the existing law which prohibits those in this country illegally from receiving any public benefit- including postsecondary education.

“By asking students to simply check a box on a form, it is absurd for college officials to claim they are doing everything they can to verify citizenship.  I think to anyone with even a slight bit of common sense it’s crystal clear how illegal immigrants are so easily gaming the system,” continued Johnson.  “It is my hope that our college and university administrators will come to their senses and do the right thing.   But if not, I look forward to including the Citizenship Verification for Higher Education Act in my first legislative package as governor.”

68 comments Add your comment

Dewayne

May 21st, 2010
12:38 am

bravo!!!! get it done!!

Drooly

May 21st, 2010
12:46 am

Downet should have deemanded the same years ago. She did not. So much for the AJC reporting. Bleeechhhk.

Jabberwocky

May 21st, 2010
12:57 am

Absolutely……ILLEGAL is just that ….ILLEGAL. Get the green card or resident visa or whatever will a person a legal resident…..THEN…no problem.
I’m sure you all know the residency requirements in Mexico……..Maybe we should just adopt those guidelines and enforce them.

Jabberwocky

May 21st, 2010
12:58 am

That filter sure dislikes me and my posts!!!1

Northview (Ex)Teacher

May 21st, 2010
12:59 am

Can’t wait until the next batch of inmates takes over the asylum. What a jerk!

Sam

May 21st, 2010
1:43 am

I say we allow everyone in. Does it really matter that they are here illegally…and while we are at it, I say we let the rest of the Mexican population to come on across the border. After all, they’ve done a good job of developing a culture of socialism, poor education, drug use and trafficking, violence, infidelity, poor hygiene, and an over all lack of respect for personal property. Yep, that’s the kind of people we need here.

The Snarky Georgian

May 21st, 2010
5:35 am

Eric Johnson’s proposal is obvious political grand-standing, and the issue is far more complex than the commenters hear may want to admit. The reality is that the economies of Mexico and the U.S. have been integrating for a number of years. I do not think the solution is to create a sub-class of U.S. residents or to ship undocumented residents back to Mexico. We need to have a mechanism that recognizes the reality of Mexican immigration.

Sam, as a fellow Georgian, I am embarassed by your subtly racist comments.

legal

May 21st, 2010
5:41 am

Eric Johnson will be the next Sonny if he becomes the governor. I sure hope he will not win.

“tax payer subsidized” — since private colleges also get money from the state, does it mean it covers all private schools, too?

rid0617

May 21st, 2010
5:44 am

Quoting Snarky: The reality is that the economies of Mexico and the U.S. have been integrating for a number of years.

You don’t realize how correct you are. We are turning more and more into a 3rd world country by the day. Since the Arizona law is racist according to the Mexican President, I suggest we adopt their immigration law. First offense illegal alien is 2 years in prison. Second offense is 10 years in prison. The police are required to check for status. Sounds good to me.

rondo

May 21st, 2010
6:02 am

If she was here that long. Why didn’t she apply for her Citizenship. Because they don’t want to be one. So they can get everything free and not pay a dime in taxes. Get rid of the income tax and have a national sales tax. then everyone pays.

Iknowanidiot

May 21st, 2010
6:04 am

I am soooooo tired of hearing about this ” poor innocent” GROWN WOMAN who is here, for over a decade , ILLEGALLY, do you all really think if she was from Nigeria,Poland or ANYWHERE, other than Mexico, she would be getting all this attention !? Bottom line , she can read and write ENGLISH so she KNEW every law she was breaking,SHE EVEN HAD THE NERVE TO PLAN ON BEING A LAWYER!!! , Enough of the media frenzy, we average hard working taxpayers ARE FED UP , the more we see of this the LESS we care!!

JHDies

May 21st, 2010
6:10 am

Another yokel who has no idea of what the labor needs will be in the near future. The homegrown students (and the woman in question really is home grown because of the age she came here) are not really preparing themselves for the rigors of college. We need the best and brightest (regardless of their place of origin) if our country is to prosper. As a retiring baby boomer, soon the US will be begging for workers to come here for lack of native-born Americans to fill the jobs being vacated.

American

May 21st, 2010
6:24 am

Sam you are my kind of AMERICAN! & The Snarky Georgian you are a FOOL! That’s right I said FOOL. I pay taxes every freakin year and to find these law breakers are using my tax dollars and they pay nothing in return? You are out of your mind. If you want to be an American PAY TAXES and do it the right way. & Iknowanidiot you are so right, poor innocent, she is a law breaker and to make America look stupid she want to be a lawyer! Put her a** on the next bus to Mexico along with her entire family. You know the media is going to turn this into a mob, soon, very soon. If the government won’t remove them from this country well maybe the m….kk..will. Think about it. Peace

Proud Black Man

May 21st, 2010
6:48 am

Education is being gutted, teachers are losing their jobs right and left, schools are being closed and the best that the white right can come up with is to stop “illegals” from attending college here. Once again the tea (fill in the word we cannot speak of) have shown how their degenerate practice is destroying their frontal lobes.

Devil's Advocate

May 21st, 2010
7:06 am

It is really embarrassing to live in Georgia. We have this kind of racist, mouth-breathing goob running for Governor? Humiliating.

Begall

May 21st, 2010
7:37 am

Poor Mexicans Bullsh!t people born and raised here have lost their jobs homes and now losing part of our Education because of the economy send them back to Mexico and let our people have these jobs they come here take our jobs get food stamps and they send their money home they do not put their earnings back into our communities and schools they only use our foodstamps to eat so they can send the money home why can’t they work in Mexico what difference does a Visa make we have starving children and homeless people shouldn’t these people have the jobs and we have enough crime as it is…..WAKE UP AMERICA…

TAZ

May 21st, 2010
7:43 am

@ rondo

You are ignorant of the whole immigration process. If she was brought here illegally by her parents, do you think she has any chance of obtaining a legal citizenship by applying for it? You are really ignorant or just so naive.

@ American
Your name reveals your arrogance. Mexicans are Americans. Canadians are Americans. Brazilians are Americans. You may be a US citizen, but you really didn’t do anything to earn that citizenship. You happened to be born in the US, that’s all. Illegal aliens pay plenty of taxes – sales taxes, excise taxes, etc. They may not pay property taxes if they are renting their residences, but plenty of US citizens do the same. If you want them to pay taxes, maybe we should adopt the Fair Tax and abolish payroll taxes.

Devil's Advocate

May 21st, 2010
7:48 am

To all of those bashing the racist fools commenting: Please give them a little credit. They are using a computer, which is a skill above what their educational attainment would predict. Good for them!

catlady

May 21st, 2010
7:59 am

I really doubt this is a big problem. The 2 illegal aliens that I am aware of that have gone to college from our (small, rural) county both were heavily recruited, and both opted to go to private colleges, where more(private, endowment) aid was open to them.

catlady

May 21st, 2010
8:01 am

The only folks who don’t pay property taxes are the dead. And those livng under overpasses, JFYI.

AlreadySheared

May 21st, 2010
8:05 am

South America stole our name!

Debbie

May 21st, 2010
8:22 am

I have no trouble with LEGAL immigration but do have a major problem with ILLEGAL activity. I’m tired of those who want to remain politically correct while the illegals are burdening our schools, using hospital emergency rooms as walk in clinics and not learning to speak ENGLISH. I work with people who have LEGALLY immigrated from Vietnam, India, Korea, Poland, etc. and they speak English.

I think American business owners who hire illegals should be fined. I think that all illegals and their anchor babies should be sent home and their respective countries should be billed for their bus and plane fare home. They can then start the process of LEGALLY entering the US. Most of the people I’ve met from Mexico are fine indivuals with a strong work ethic but that doesn’t ENTITLE them to be in the US.

A key for Mexico’s growth is that they need to build and an infrastructure that includes white and blue collar workers along with a manufacturing sector. This is what will help to keep people in their country.

JJ

May 21st, 2010
8:25 am

There are paths to getting legal for illegal imigrants. The city of Atlanta has a Mexican consulate for starters. Although it is not their charter to legalize illegals they can help by pointing them in the right direction. Second, there are legal firms in Atlanta specializing in helping illegals. She is obviously a bright girl who made a concious decision to not seek out any of the paths to get legal. Based on this, she must go. Does my opinion make me racist, or a law abiding citizen?

Lynn43

May 21st, 2010
8:26 am

Eric Johnson is just being a politician. With whatever group he is with, he will say what they want to hear to try and get their votes. Don’t be fooled. His true stand on education is anti-public education. This man is dangerous.

JJ

May 21st, 2010
8:32 am

Mexico doesn’t want them back. They send over $21 billion in US Dollars to Mexico each year. This is the second largest infusion of US dollars to Mexico, behind only oil. The same burden on schools, hospitals and social services would be born by Mexico if they all returned. Note that the border between Mexico and Central America is considerabely stronger than the border between Mexico and the US.

flipper

May 21st, 2010
8:47 am

Eric Johnson has my vote.

Devil's Advocate

May 21st, 2010
9:13 am

Duhhhh…my only problem with blacks is that they are breaking the Jim Crow laws…duhhh.

Racism is racism, at least be honest with yourselves.Your hate is plain to the rest oif us.

Seen it all

May 21st, 2010
9:52 am

All emotions aside,

The situation with the woman in Kennesaw is different. She had a LEGAL right to attend school here in the U.S. when she was in public school. FEDERAL law states that NO public school can ask a student about their citzenship status. In addition, they must serve ALL students who fall within their boundaries, regardless of race, creed, sex, disability, religion, or national origin. The law is Plyer v. Doe.

Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982), was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States struck down a state statute denying funding for education to children who were illegal immigrants and simultaneously struck down a municipal school district’s attempt to charge illegal immigrants an annual $1,000 tuition fee for each undocumented student to compensate for the lost state funding.

Since then, schools must take any student, regardless of “legal” status. How do I know this? I used to be an ESOL teacher. We knew that there were “illegal” students in our schools. But what could we do? Besides who was going to take this out on a 10 year old child? It wasn’t his or her fault that their parents forced them to come to the U.S.

The situation with the school is a little different. All the state colleges assume that if you graduate from a public high school in GA, you must be “legit”. The sad part about this is that this particular young lady happened to be a good student. This is why I don’t foam at the mouth over this story. I actually sympathize with her plight. After all, she has been over here eight years. This is her home. She probably knows more English than Spanish, and certainly nothing about Mexican culture.

So illegal is not just “illegal” in this case, despite how hard some people want to make it.

Proud Black Man

May 21st, 2010
9:55 am

@ Devil’s Advocate

Good post however the tea (fill in the word that cannot be spoken) will not be swayed. Think back to the fable of the scorpion and the frog. Racism is ingrained in their very nature.

Seen it all

May 21st, 2010
10:09 am

Oh and one more thing,

The so called anger and revulsion over “illegal immigrants” is hypocrisy. You didn’t have a problem when businesses, corporations, and yourselves used these people for cheap labor. You KNEW these people were “illegal.” Knew it and hired them anyway. Hired them over “LEGAL”, American citizens. Because they were docile and would work for slightly less that American “citizens”.

So don’t talk about them now. I, myself, questioned the surge in immigration- 20 YEARS AGO!!!! My father paid money to go to technical school in the late 1980’s to learn carpentry. When he finished school, he found that he could not find work. Why? Because the boys on the construction sites wanted the cheap labor. This back in the late 1980’s. The BIG Latino surge didn’t hit Georgia until the early 1990’s. So these folks have been here for 15, 20 years.

Also, before you talk about “illegal” immigrants, talk to the folks, AMERICANS BTW, in Gainesville, etc. who hire all these people to work in the chicken processing plants, carpet factories, etc. Talk to the people who hired them in the local warehouses and construction sites. Talk to your local fast food restaurant who will hire them over John or Mary. I know of an illegal immigrant from Honduras or El Salvador, one fo those places, who got a job at an Arby’s after only one week in the country. ONE WEEK. This was a few years ago mind you, but the point is still the same.

So when people express disgust over “illegal aliens”, it is merely hypocritical words to me. If this were 1995, it would be one thing, But this is 2010.

BlueDawg

May 21st, 2010
10:17 am

@JJ: You said ” There are paths to getting legal for illegal imigrants. The city of Atlanta has a Mexican consulate for starters.”

Do you know anything about immigration law? The Mexican Consulate has no ability to help illegal immigrants in the US for a couple of reasons. First, the Mexican consulate (Or embassy) is part of the Mexican government, not the US Government. Secondly anyone who is here illegally has to leave the country in order to try and get legal status. That is about all the consulate can do, is help illegal aliens get back to Mexico (If they are Mexican). By the way, the penalty for being here illegally is a 10 year ban on being able to apply for a visa (even a visitors visa). The ban is appealable but the appeals process requires several thousand dollars and can take 1-3 years and there is no guarantee that the appeal to the ban will be granted. If the appeal is granted, the person is allowed to file for a visa like a student visa. That process in and of itself can take up to a year and is not cheap.

So no, there is no path to citizenship for anyone here illegally without first going back to Mexico and having the money to 1) appeal the ban, and 2) apply for a visa. Also there is a quota system in place that limits immigration from countries we have had a lot of immigrants from in the past several years. BTW, guess what country most legal immigrants into the US come from? The ones that share borders with us. So the backlog to legally immigrate to the US from Mexico takes years, maybe even 10-20 years with priority given to people who already have family here, have spouses/children here or meet a certain level of education/career skills.

Stop the ignorance

May 21st, 2010
10:18 am

Good grief! Please stop! Just because a person believes that illegals should not reap the benefits of residing in the United States doesn’t make a person a racist. I’ve fought against racism my entire life, from the time I was old enough to realize that people could treat “others” badly just because they were born with dark skin or spoke with an accent. I am an ESOL endorsed teacher who teachers every student in my classroom to the best of my abilities, never asking any student about his/her status. I’ve also volunteered my time in Latino free clinics and community centers. With that said, I cannot politically support immigrants being here illegally. Yes, as some have pointed out, most of them pay taxes, some even pay social security they will never claim because they’re using someone else’s SS numbers. We are a nation of immigrants, but for the most part, a nation of legal immigrants. People came here to create better lives for themselves and for their families, and they wanted to stay here. They became United States citizens. Granted, times were different and the path to citizenship was less bureaucratic, but they did it. They learned the language and integrated into the culture. Like my family, many realized that they could maintain “old world” traditions and still be “Americans.” Today, many of the illegal immigrants are not taking the language classes that are freely offered and many desire to earn enough money to be able to retire in their native country. Many, not all. Being a resident of the United States should not just be about being able to earn some money, contrary to what even the Mexican government suggests. Aside from the economic impact, there is also the safety issue. Undocumented means untraceable and uninsured. And let’s not forget about those who immigrated legally. I have no numbers, but I do know that it makes them feel very cheated to have worked so hard to become legal citizens and have others come in and just usurp a position. This is obviously not an easily resolved issue, but calling people “racist” doesn’t help anything.

the prof

May 21st, 2010
10:31 am

PBM you aren’t black and aren’t fooling anyone anymore.

Proud Black Man

May 21st, 2010
10:52 am

I don’t know whats more amusing: The tea (fill in the name that cannot be spoken) “righteous anger” at ONE young immigrant lady or their sycophantic lapdog followers.

Sick Of It

May 21st, 2010
11:08 am

@Stop the Ignorance:

Very Well Stated.

Vertigo

May 21st, 2010
11:24 am

“And let’s not forget about those who immigrated legally. I have no numbers, but I do know that it makes them feel very cheated to have worked so hard to become legal citizens and have others come in and just usurp a position. This is obviously not an easily resolved issue, but calling people “racist” doesn’t help anything”

Stop the Ignorance – THANK YOU! Well said!

While I have compassion for the desire to want to come to this country, illegal is just that – ILLEGAL. Time and again we’ve seen other groups turned around at sea and halted at our borders trying to cross…but people in Mexico can simply walk. I’m not saying that they are not welcome…everyone is welcome LEGALLY.

And don’t even get me started on the MAJOR companies (whom many of us support with our hard earned cash) that support the cheap labor so they can undercut US Citizens of a job! And their lame excuse? “Americans are willing to do this work” or “US workers are don’t have the technical skills”…WHATEVER!

And one last thing…the official language is ENGLISH!

Vertigo

May 21st, 2010
11:28 am

“Americans are willing to do this work”

I meant “Americans are UNwilling to do this work”…

Jabberwocky

May 21st, 2010
11:43 am

I was in a position to come into close contact daily with illegal immigrants. It may come as a surprise to many of you, but these families, and in particular the students, have no desire to become U.S, citizens. They come here to earn money and send much of it to relatives in their native countries. They to back there almost every summer when school is out and their dream is to get enough money to go back for good. And yes……most of them are from Mexico.
Most , if not all of the vocal supporters of citizenship for illegals are Americans. THe illegals would just as soon stay illegal except for the danger of getting caught. They would be quite satisfied with some kind of temporary resident card that would keep them from having to hide.

HOLY MOLLY

May 21st, 2010
12:46 pm

Had a new roof put on my house about two months ago.The company was a large roofing company in Atlanta.The five installers were Mexican.Only the lead supervisor spoke english.Very nice person,and after a day on the job:he opened up to me. He has been here 15 years with his family,rents a house,has four childern going to school. The other four gentlemen were his brothers who live with him. They are all Illegals.The brothers are here to only make money to send to their families back in Mexico. I asked why they came here illegal,and he said have YOU EVERY LIVED IN MEXICO and tried to make a living for your family!! No money and drugs are a large problem in his country.Sounds like the current condition of our country.

They cost us more than you think

May 21st, 2010
1:07 pm

College costs are a tiny drop in the bucket. Shall we talk about how much we are spending to cover the cost of illegal immigrants giving birth to US citizens in our hospitals? Our high school has 24 pregnant Hispanic girls. Shall we discuss how much we spend on “emergency” health care for illegal immigrants who have no insurance? Millions. Shall we discuss how much we spend educating them k-12? More millions. How about the cost of arresting and jailing so many? Or the damage done by the high rate of crime in their communities? How much do you all think we can really afford to pay to cover the health/education/legal costs of over and estimated 11 million illegal immigrants before it breaks us?

They cost us more than you think

May 21st, 2010
1:13 pm

@ Vertigo – “I meant “Americans are UNwilling to do this work”…”

Actually what you really should have said is “I meant “Americans are UNwilling to do this work”…for $10 an hour with no benefits and live with 20 people together in one small house or apartment.”

They are creating an enormous underclass and this country won’t look too pretty in a few more years… we will have a mini-Mexico underclass society operating side by side with American business and culture. It won’t be long before the US starts to look very much like Brazil. Enormous wealth contrasted with enormous poverty and not too much in between.

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Vertigo

May 21st, 2010
3:00 pm

Actually what you really should have said is “I meant “Americans are UNwilling to do this work”…for $10 an hour with no benefits and live with 20 people together in one small house or apartment.”
- They cost us more than you think…

good point…

Panda8

May 21st, 2010
3:20 pm

Perhaps she was a child when she came over, but it is not like she hasn’t contributed her own lies.
She had to falsify documents to get in state tuition. Now that they know she’s illegal, her lawyer is trying to get her in state tuition rate back, even. She drove with no license. She says she had insurance (at the address she never lived at)… but I’ve not seen a company that will insure you with no license number, so that is also likely using another person’s number/ID, if it exists – some articles seem to indicate it doesn’t. After getting picked up for obstructing traffic, she lied to the police saying she would return with her license, and that she had one – they let her go. When she was later arrested, she lied and gave a false address (a felony). She gave them an expired (2007) Mexican passport as ID and a Mexican driver’s license (surely she didn’t get that at 10?) and indicated that the law was ‘unfair’ to require a license she did not have – expecting the cops to accept the excuse and complaining that being given only one day to come up with the license before a warrant would be issued was too ‘threatening’ and harsh (I’d consider that lucky – most would just let you present your license and in court). Her father is currently in Mexico and her friends have mentioned her planning to go to him after graduation (after taxes here finish helping her education). If she wanted to be a lawyer, there is no way she didn’t realize what she was doing. No, we don’t need a lawyer who not only was brought here illegally by her parents but has obviously developed a complete disregard for any inconvenient rule or law.

A citizen who acted as she did would not get this sort of support. They’d be out of college, and facing prosecution for their crimes. While I’m sorry for her situation, she’s taken no steps to respect this country, no steps to rectify things, and every step to take whatever is convenient. How fast would the sympathy end if she hit your car, with that ending up as simply your problem? If you had been wait listed or denied from KSU?

Every time she takes an interview, it seems to get more nuts.

They cost us more than you think

May 21st, 2010
3:36 pm

My husband was rear-ended by an illegal immigrant. For some reason, the police let him go at the scene. He returned to Mexico the next day. Our insurance co paid the damages and we had to pay a $250 deductible for being hit by an uninsured motorist. Thankfully, no one was hurt.

Cobb Teacher

May 21st, 2010
4:19 pm

JOE LEGAL vs. JOSE ILLEGAL

You have two families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”.
Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes
$25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number,
and gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.

Ready? Now pay attention… because you’ll get the big picture

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00
per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has
$31,231.00.

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00
per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has
$31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his
family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now
Has $24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and
local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has
$31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or
welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per
Year.. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and
welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe
Legal now has $9,631.00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose
Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose
Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Joe
Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ car insurance!” and still
has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline,
etc.

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after
work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe
Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get
A government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal’s children have an after school
ESL program. Joe Legal’s children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services,
but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

m vale

May 21st, 2010
4:45 pm

I am wondering if she is going to pay back the state of Ga for the in- state tuition that she lied to get. The taxpayers do deserve their money back.The sad thing is she has taken the place of a legal citizen. Just like Obama’s aunt who has lived in public housing, she should be supported by Obama and not been taking housing from a legal American citizen. How can an illegal, deported immigrant qualify for housing paid by the taxpayers? Why is Obama, who made $5million last year, not giving “his favorite aunt” a decent place to live? Everytime I turn around I have to present my SS number and driver’s license, why don’t these illegal people have it do this too?

Fericita

May 21st, 2010
8:48 pm

Snarky Georgian is right; this is a much more complicated situation than people want to admit. The solution is definitely not creating a group of 18 year-olds who can graduate from our high schools but then not go on to our colleges.

What I don’t see people here recognizing is that Jessica is a success story. She is attending college, she is bilingual, she has hopes and dreams that she is trying to achieve. She is doing that within the life that her parents created for her. She did not choose to come here as a child, but she has worked hard to make the best of it.

The reality is, we will continue to have illegal immigrants in our country and in our schools. If you have a problem with that, is the best solution to make a law that limits their achievements once they’re here?

Devil's Advocate

May 21st, 2010
9:25 pm

@CobbTeacher – Wow, what a bold oversimplification. And even if your scenario were frequently occurring, wouldn’t the issue be with Jose’s employer.

This is quite simple: A good person does what they have to to take care of their family. Ever been to some of the non-tourist towms in Mexico. You’d understand if you went. And what is scariest is that I bet most of you illegal-haters call yourselves Christian. Might want to re-read the Bible…

bootney farnsworth

May 21st, 2010
10:53 pm

God forbid tax paying Georgians should only want to fund the educations of legal citizens.

when US citizens can go to Mexico illegally and have Mexico underwrite their education,

then get back to me.