WTOC reports: Parent says school took paddling too far
My e-mail this morning has several tips from Get Schooled readers, including this referral to a story by WTOCTV.com in Savannah about a paddling incident in an Appling County middle school.
According to the WTOC 11 story:
BAXLEY, GA (WTOC) – Should educators be allowed to spank a child who misbehaves? It’s a subject that’s been debated for years.
In the State of Georgia, paddling students is legal, but the implementation of a spanking policy is left up to each school district. But one Baxley parent says her son’s school took it too far.
“I haven’t seen any write-ups or warnings. It just says, ‘classroom disturbance, throwing objects in class’ and he received two licks,” said mom Carletta Crummey.
She says the note was sent home Thursday about her 13-year-old son Cody and that, “two licks” means being hit twice with a paddle.
“He said, ‘I need to call home’ and they refused to let him call home and they paddled him,” said Crummey.
Crummey says Appling County Middle School teachers should have let her know first before they made the decision to hit her child.
“We don’t believe in paddling our child,” she said. “I don’t think what he did was right. I want them to punish him, but not hurt him where he is afraid to go back to school. You know if I put bruises on him, I would be in trouble. I don’t think a stranger should be allowed to put bruises on a child.”
Crummey says she doesn’t understand why some school districts allow this to happen.
“Suspend him, send him home, let me take care of the problem.
We have talked about this issue here many times, and I remain steadfast in my belief that schools should not physically discipline kids. I agree with the parent. Suspend the student. Call the parents. Send him home. But don’t hit him.
(And for those of you who are going to say that if this mother paddled her son more, he wouldn’t throw thing in class, there is no evidence that kids raised on corporal punishment are better behaved as a result.)
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Kathy
November 24th, 2009
1:15 pm
I don’t recall making any statement of the sort regarding spanking in school ScienceTeacher671.
What I said is that it is not an equitable practice as the ressearch shows. So why do you suppose those parents tell you to spank their kid? I’m not going to make any assumptions about such parents, but I will say that just because somebody is biologically able to produce a child, that does not make them a parent. Parenting is a learned process. A good example, years ago in this district there use to be a smoking area for high school kids on the school grounds. Well, smoking is now banned from HS campuses, and rightfully so. However, a parent who smoked on campus years ago might not fully understand why their child is being denied that same opportunity today. I still see parents giving their under aged children, even 16, cigarettes to smoke.
I take 100% responsibility for my son’s education. The law says we send them to school, but teachers can not make them learn…teachers can try their best to motivate and make the material interesting. However, if he isn’t getting it at school for whatever reason, it is my responsibility to see that he has learned the material well enough to get it down on a test. I see parents blaming everyone but themselves for their child’s shortcomings, and I see school personnel blaming the parents for their child’s shortcomings. The only one who gets hurt in the end is the student….
Terry, it seems to me that educators might prefer spanking because there is NO paperwork involved. Think about it, no form to fill out for the office, no trying to reach parents, no due process, and no tribunals necessary. It’s simply pointing the finger, judgment, and whipping. It’s quick and easy. Who cares if it affects AYP. Georgia along with many states backloaded the achievement levels on high stakes test because they are still hoping AYP and NCLB will go away…..However, NCLB is still here and 2014 is fast approaching educators!
Kathy
November 24th, 2009
2:01 pm
I don’t recall making any statement of the sort regarding spanking in school ScienceTeacher671.
What I said is that it is not an equitable practice as the ressearch shows. So why do you suppose those parents tell you to spank their kid? I’m not going to make any assumptions about such parents, but I will say that just because somebody is biologically able to produce a child, that does not make them a parent. Parenting is a learned process. A good example, years ago in this district there use to be a smoking area for high school kids on the school grounds. Well, smoking is now banned from HS campuses, and rightfully so. However, a parent who smoked on campus years ago might not fully understand why their child is being denied that same opportunity today. I still see parents giving their under aged children, even 16, cigarettes to smoke.
I take 100% responsibility for my son’s education. The law says we send them to school, but teachers can not make them learn…teachers can try their best to motivate and make the material interesting. However, if he isn’t getting it at school for whatever reason, it is my responsibility to see that he has learned the material well enough to get it down on a test. I see parents blaming everyone but themselves for their child’s shortcomings, and I see school personnel blaming the parents for their child’s shortcomings. The only one who gets hurt in the end is the student….
Terry, it seems to me that educators might prefer spanking because there is NO paperwork involved. Think about it, no form to fill out for the office, no trying to reach parents, no due process, and no tribunals necessary. It’s simply pointing the finger, judgment, and whipping. It’s quick and easy. Who cares if it affects AYP. Georgia along with many states backloaded the achievement levels on high stakes test because they are still hoping AYP and NCLB will go away…..However, NCLB is still here and 2014 is fast approaching educators,
ScienceTeacher671
November 24th, 2009
8:21 pm
I suspect that many of the parents believe the Biblical injunction of “spare the rod, spoil the child”, and take it literally.
I don’t know about all school systems that allow corporal punishment (and apparently those systems are the minority in Georgia?), but in the one in which I used to teach, only administrators were allowed to spank – classroom teachers could not. Therefore, there would be paperwork involved.
ashley
November 24th, 2009
11:37 pm
well well i was looking at stuff on the internet and came across some of these articles this child happens to be my brother so i will “elaborate” first things first the classroom was without a teacher at the time. there were three children involved. Two other kids were throwing a chap-stick cap at each other and it hit my brother in the head while he was working so he threw it back mind you i don’t agree with what he done. but as my brother threw the item back the teacher walked in and seen him so all three got paddled while in the hallway the teacher was making fun of children while being paddled. my brother new he was not to be paddled so he asked to call home and they refused him. the teacher got a coach to paddle the children he swung the paddle like a baseball bat he hit my brother too hard. we got a phone call from my sister that was home waiting on him and called us when my brother told her he got paddled. these people left black and blue marks on his bottom. my parents belive in spankings but not beatings. my brother is a good kid he’s never been trouble in his life he is on honor roll and is on the football team and exceeds on all state test so his education is not in question. our case is not the only one in our county there are others with same school. my sister and i went to the same school we had problems with same teacher. my parents or i do not agree with what my brother done by any means but what we don’t get is how can a school teacher beat a child but if my parents did they would be in jail. parents need to be aware of whats going in the schools. we put our trust in these people to keep our children safe but instead they scare them to death. not only did they hurt him physically but emotionally too. I may not have any children of my own but i know what right and whats wrong and this was wrong i will protect him because he is still an CHILD! and this is not over till we get some answers.
Kathy
November 25th, 2009
12:29 am
OK, let’s go there:
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Do you suppose Jesus would hit or spank a child???? Jesus was a teacher of men and children…..did he resort to hitting defenselss children?
If we are going to intertwiine the scirptures…let’s do it all, not just the scriptures that are more in line with “Puritan” values and beliefs. Please forgive me for sounding like a parrot….HITTING children in the education system is NOT equitable…If spanking is going to happen, HEY, let’s close that GAP!
proudmomofone
November 25th, 2009
2:26 am
@sienceteacher671
just to let you know the size of the school has nothing to do with right or wrong i am from appling county and they happen to have some of the highest test scores in the state. If he was hit hard enough to leave bruises then something is obviously wrong i mean come on a 13 yr old how is he supposed to defend himself.
proudmomofone
November 25th, 2009
2:30 am
what the heck does this science teacher know she seems to be commenting on everybodys comments. just chill out a little bit we already know what u think about it
ScienceTeacher671
November 25th, 2009
6:33 am
proudmomofone: I was responding to Kathy’s questions. You’re under no obligation to read my comments.
Frankly, I don’t think schools ought to be in the business of spanking children, but (1) I do understand that some parents think it’s okay and (2) schools do need to have some method of disciplining children who are disrupting the classroom.
Sue Jenkins
November 25th, 2009
12:11 pm
My brother and I were paddled a lot at home but it never occurred to us to missbehave in school. I guess we just knew better. Our schools in Alabama were allowed to paddle but I don’t remember knowing anyone who was disciplined this way. When we went to school the teachers were in charge, not the students.
proudmomofone
November 25th, 2009
3:50 pm
scienceteacher671 you cant help but to read your comments they are everywhere.and if you read the story the mom did agree with him being punished but not paddled and absolutly not bruising him remember she said send him home suspend him but do not hit him.
proudmomofone
November 25th, 2009
3:52 pm
scienceteacher671 since you are a teacher what would you do if a child came to school with bruises on them, you would call dfacs but since it was a teacher and it happened at school does that make it ok
ScienceTeacher671
November 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
proudmomofone, 4 of the 11 (now 12) comments on this page are from YOU, directed at me. I suppose now that I’m responding you’ll say I shouldn’t because I’ve already exceeded my comment limit?
I think I said paddling shouldn’t leave bruises. I think I also said I didn’t think school systems need to paddle, but some parents disagree. In all of the systems I’ve seen that use paddling, parents are allowed to “opt out”. Either this parent didn’t opt out, or the school made a huge mistake and will probably pay dearly (using tax dollars) for that mistake.
ashley
November 26th, 2009
2:21 am
scienceteacher671, my parents did not have the option to “opt out” in this case and we are not out for money we want to protect other children so this dosn’t happen again. no child should be harmed.
ScienceTeacher671
November 26th, 2009
8:15 am
https://eboard.eboardsolutions.com/ePolicy/policy.aspx?PC=JDA&Sch=4002&S=4002&RevNo=1.01&C=J&Z=P Here is the corporal punishment policy for Appling County schools. It states, in part:
“It must not be administered to a student whose parent submits a statement to the principal requesting that corporal punishment not be used on their child.
Corporal punishment is defined as reasonable bodily punishment justly and reasonably administered. We believe that more suitable and more effective means of punishment are usually available, and corporal punishment should be infrequently used in our schools.”
@Kathy, on the website there is also a very long document detailing the plan to involve parents in the schools you might be interested – apparently Appling County is a Title I district.
parentof3
November 26th, 2009
10:19 am
I hope the district in this case reviews their policies and procedures and then considers removing it off their books altogether.
sanborn121
November 27th, 2009
1:02 pm
spare the rod, spoil the child! It’s not rocket science. Take discipline, prayer, etc. out of the schools and you’ve got todays mess! Liberals will never get it!
Floridamom
November 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
What is going on in our public schools today with teachers hitting students? This insane practice of hitting children needs to stop!!!
This is almost 2010 not 1910. We are going back in time using this kind of failure technique in the public school system on any child.
Using violence on a child is not going to teach them anything except that violence is an acceptable practice to use. Get rid of the paddle and start using positive behavior techniques or a detention but DON’T put your hands on the children.
Kathy
November 28th, 2009
10:41 am
IN FY 08 Appling County school district reported 1,103 incidents of utilizing corporal punishment, it has only 6 schools. According to the GDOE Report Card, 4 of the 6 schools are Title I schools, and the system received almost $1 million dollars in Title I monies, and it received more from the “federal stimulus money” that was given away to school districts across the nation..
This simply means that the 4, Title I schools have extra criteria to involve parents in order to keep the federal welfare dollars flowing. If a school is NOT classified as a Title I school, then the parents simply serve at the pleasure of the principal with no real rights or opportunities, except for the School Council, which is likely still functioning under HB1187 mandates from 2001 because the district is NOT actually telling parents HOW to be involved in the local decision making process.
Thus, given that the socioeconomic status of the population of Appling County parents that do not have the resources to buy their kid’s lunch or they get it for 40 cents, are not likely going to attend parent meetings in which the focus is to give or make money for the school principal to spend.(PTO)
Parents DO NOT understand, or know about Section 1118 of NCLB, nor do they know to write to Dr. Barbara Lunsford or anyone else at the GDOE regarding Title I mandates, and the school system is certainly not giving up such information. Such ommission of inforamtion can be seen as a way to keep certain groups down, and disproportionately hitting minorities and disabled children, seem like the easiest and MOST SUBTLE way of keeping these kids failing high stakes tests and best of all, DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL!
Folks keep writing about bruises….well, that is empirical evidence and some kids may bruise more easily. And speaking of more easily….why do any of you suppose the process includes OPTING OUT of corporal punishment?
WHY NOT make PArents OPT IN????
William Porter
November 28th, 2009
7:48 pm
Boy, add this to discussions that should not ever take place – like sex, religion, and politics. I find just a couple of faults with the original story – the fact the teacher had to go get another teacher or coach to do the paddling. If the teacher can’t handle the class then he/she needs to get out of the business. Secondly unless the teacher had said something to the effect about not throwing the cap and then it flew the student should not have been subjected to a paddling. If the student deliberately disobeyed the request from the teacher then the two swats were warranted and probably allowed the receiver to join the other students who had been paddled in the past. We as parents must support our educators and administrators but they also must use good judgment in their actions. I am a retired teacher and parent. I paddled students in the past but only for absolute disregard for either myself or others. Never were students paddled for not doing their homework, tardy to class, or infractions like that. Backtalk, foul language, throwing something – anything that totally disregarded my authority or the safety of others would get you a few swats – out in the hallway and seldom did the offender repeat his actions. My two sons were treated the same way. I dare say I’ve seen these students at various reunions and they are none the worse for wear.
ashley
November 28th, 2009
9:45 pm
1- There was not a teacher in the classroom to keep order.
2- The teacher that witnessed the paddling was making comments to the boys and i quote ” you are gonna get the board of education on you” and “coach i have three boys out here get your paddle warmed up and when you get them get them good”. now i say the children were already scared to death did they need to hear that i don’t think so. And then to refuse a phone to a child that asked for it because he is scared to death and he knows what is going on is wrong. these people are adults and if a 13 year old boy knows it’s wrong then thats sad to say. I do not agree with what my brother did but what i dont agree with is how hard he was hit and where he was hit do not swing the paddle like a baseball bat and do not him them in the legs. My brother does not bruise easy he is a pretty big boy for his age. The case is not closed by any means the defacs office is pushing it and if you could just see the pics you would all be a little more understanding on how we feel. You would be disturbed at how bad they are and how scared my brother was. Our case is not the only one in Appling Co. there are 8 more parent in the county saying their children have been done this way they are all scared what people will think of them if they push the issue we are not. But we were the only ones to push the issue and we are wrong for that whats wrong with this world we are supposed to protect children not hurt them. My mom, sister and I are thinking of starting a petition to stop paddling in Appling Co altogether it’s wrong this is the 21st century people get with times. Wake up GA take a long hard look into your school systems they are not so perfect as you people try to make thay out to be. I will gladly answer any and all question you may have.
Theresa Edwards
November 29th, 2009
1:06 pm
Ashley, my name is Theresa Edwards and I am the host of a radio show called Justice4Children. I would love for you and any other person to come on the show, it is a live radio broadcast where you can tell your brothers story along with the other eight families. Please e-mail me at hedwards08@comcast.net or you can call me at 706-790-9013. I and thousands of other parents are currently working with our US Congress memebers to have these criminal acts by schools abolished.
And you are right on the money “If parents beat their children like this we would be in jail” yet school personnel have sovereign immunity.
Applingmiddlealumni
December 1st, 2009
9:30 pm
Not believing in paddling a student is what is wrong in the first place. Spare the rod….spoil the child!! Suspension is not disciplining a child but giving them a vacation. Second, the child was offered to call home but refused the offer. The child has already had behavior problems and it’s hard to believe that adults will believe a problem child rather than adults with advanced degrees and many years working in the school system. When has it ever been okay to fill a small container with a screw and throw it at another classmate. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILD HIT WITH THE CONTAINER AND THEIR FUTURE EMOTIONS AND STATE OF MIND!! They’re being abused and can’t have a safe learning environment because of the children that don’t get disciplined with paddling, etc. Oh and by the way….kids that get paddled in school end up joking about years down the road. They don’t get depression. It shows who has authority in school and shows that there are true consequences for bullying. I wish the teacher had wrote the kid up for bullying and didn’t give them a break because it is so close to the holidays. I know Baxley, GA and the people. It’s easy to do since I grew up there and had the same GREAT teachers that paddled me!! I’m about to graduate college and getting paddled is the past & is the least of my worries or the “cause of serious, serious issues.” Sounds like another family looking for a law suit and MONEY!
ashley
December 1st, 2009
9:55 pm
applingmiddlealumni: it seems you know an awful lot about this case i went to the same schools and had the same teachers. andim doing just fine. the phone call home is a lie he was refused a phone call the principle evens said that oh waite dosn’t the principle have a higher degree then a teacher we shouldn’t belive him either i guess. a probelm child you don’t even know the full story the teacher dosn’t even know the full story because she was not in the room. and the money thing we have plenty of it thak you very much! A law suite is not even going to be filed so how can we get money. It’s so sad you can’t even tell the truth atleast i did use my real name. I am ashamed to even be from the same town you are from. Baxley might be a better place without people like you in it so don’t comment on things you don’t know about.
Applingmiddlealumni
December 1st, 2009
11:05 pm
Your missing one part to your story. You weren’t there either!!!! You don’t know the whole story, just what you’ve been told as well….like everyone else. Maybe he should’ve put himself in the bullied child’s shoes and thought about what it would feel like to have something thrown at him. Guess people don’t believe in the Golden Rule anymore. I bet if the boys that did the throwing were punished by there own medicine they would twice next time. I’m glad you want everyone to know who you are. It wouldn’t matter if you’ve used your real name since you’ve already admitted to being the boy’s sister. That kinda put it out there. And when you start talking about how your brother was supposedly mistreated you need to think about the real victim, the child being bullied. If your brother’s going to mistreat people he needs to expect mistreatment to himself. Everyone reeps what they sow! There’s no way you can tell me he would’ve been trully punished by being sent home. Apparently he and his friends didn’t care anything about being at school based on their behavior. And your right! No child should be harmed. Does that apply to your brother’s fellow classmates?
FormerACMSstudent
December 2nd, 2009
12:17 am
There is an appropriate way to paddle a child. I am sure that the teaching doing the paddling knows how. ashley it isn’t smart to reveal you identity and misspell words. You look uneducated and it actually doesn’t help your brother’s case which I am sure was just for attention and has been dropped. From the looks of the picture on WTOC.com he was bigger than any teacher at ACMS. I am sure he can handle a paddling on his bottom if he can play football. That is what is wrong with people today they don’t understand that there are consecquences for rules that are broken.
FormerACMSstudent
December 2nd, 2009
12:20 am
Appling County Middle School has more problems way more important than corporal punishment. Their school system had to take out a loan and cut positions this year. Everything is based on who you know and where. They show favor to certain students whose parents are teachers or administrators. Administrators are supposed to enforce the rules and they are usually breaking most of them and they expect teachers to go along with it and let it slide. There are wonderful teachers at that school that are always talked down to and verbally abuse by administrators. The students are treated like prisoners as the walk down the halls to class or lunch. They are yelled at to be quite and walk on the right side of the hall. The only thing I actually enjoyed about ACMS was the teachers that cared.
FormerACMSstudent
December 2nd, 2009
12:24 am
Appling County Middle School has more problems way more important than corporal punishment. Their school system had to take out a loan and cut positions this year. Everything is based on who you know and where. They show favor to certain students whose parents are teachers or administrators. Administrators are supposed to enforce the rules and they are usually breaking most of them and they expect teachers to go along with it and let it slide. There are wonderful teachers at that school that are always talked down to and verbally abuse by administrators. The students are treated like prisoners as the walk down the halls to class or lunch. They are yelled at to be quite and walk on the right side of the hall. The only thing I actually enjoyed about ACMS was the teachers that cared.
There is nothing wrong with paddling a student. ISS, OSS, and Detention are free passes to get out of class. I would like someone to tell me if “time-out” works better than a “spanking” because no one knows! EVERY CHILD IS DIFFERENT. Each teacher knows that and this teacher thought this was the only way to get through to this student. And no one knows that this could have been is 3rd or 4th offense for the student. As a form student of the Appling County School System I know for a fact that at Open House before school start parents are given a packet of forms to fill out. In that packet there is a form that the parent checks whether or not their child can be paddled. So the parent should have actually read what she was signing. I was “spanked” as a child and I am perfectly fine. I graduated with Honors from ACHS and I am in college only a few semesters from graduation. I am proud that the Appling County School System still paddles because sometimes that’s what it takes. I stand for the teacher that paddles to protect other students’ Education and enforces the rules.
ashley
December 2nd, 2009
2:50 am
For the last two comments: Yes I realize I was not there but we are going on what the school principal has told us we have put good faith in that man and we stand behind him one hundred percent. And yes we have thought about the child that was hit and he has told the child he was sorry. Yes my brother is a big boy but this coach swung the paddle like a baseball bat and hit him in the legs. My education is just fine I like Appling Co School system I would not be where I am today without them. I am trying to get people to understand we did not agree with what my brother did but, why bruise him up that’s what was uncalled for. Yes my parents belive in spanking but not to the point of briuses. We are not pushing the issue any farther because the school principal has took care of it. We just wanted to bring it to his attention and we did he took care of it and that’s all my parents asked. So if you guys want to continue bashing my family and I go ahead. I do not care if people know who I am I took the chance when I did that no one is perfect. I am not perfect by any means. The issue has been dropped because of the middle school principal. We are happy that this matter is over and took care of and maybe getting WTOC involved was not the best idea but we did and now we are paying for it everyday with stares and the comments but we have to live with it. Remember no one can judge us but God himself. Now does that clear everything up or did I leave something out im sure you will let me know if I did.
gamom
December 2nd, 2009
10:11 am
I am really disgusted by some of these comments. Ashley – no one should be bashing your family.
ga
December 2nd, 2009
10:41 am
@Former ACM student – actually there are many effective ways to deal with behavior issues that do not include hitting in any way. Many school districts are implementing PBIS or like programs because they work. Studies show it. There are also systemwide programs available to deal with school safety, bullying and school violence that does not include hitting. Many of these programs are available through grants, wouldn’t cost taxpayers. Actually the latest studies show that states tht use corporal punishment have more issues with bullying and violence than those schools that do not use it.
ashley
December 2nd, 2009
12:20 pm
@ga and gamom Thank you for your postive comments.
gamom
December 2nd, 2009
12:26 pm
no problem ashley. I know this much, if it were me, I would have gone to the press too. I am a parent and would do what it takes to protect my child from harm. Where is the logic in hitting a kid because he is bullying anyway? That’s not an excuse! The only thing that it teaches is that hitting solves problems. Actually ashley, I am hoping you do read the recent studies and take them to your school board. Even teacher organizations are stepping up and wanting this to end. Join the Dignity in Schools Campaign and read the recent study on the ACLU website. The ACLU did 2 recent reports. Then look up the position statements from the American Academy of Pediatrics, National Association of School Nurses and many others.
FormerACMSstudent
December 2nd, 2009
6:21 pm
No one deserves bruises. I didn’t say that. If the family can’t handle the scrutiny they should have taken the issue to the press and left it with the police and DFCS. But in this special case I need to see the bruises to believe it…weren’t there 2 other children written up that also got paddlings? They aren’t claiming to be bruised. This seems to be a common he says she says matter. I know there are other effective ways to deal with behavioral issues. This wasn’t his first offense and I actually think the same student got wrote up again this week for classroom disturbance. Since you know so many more ways why don’t you please come share with us? Because teachers need to know what to do with a student that is persistently breaking the rules. Does he need attention? Because the press sure did give him that. This makes the whole Appling County School System and paddling look bad when its not. I am proud to be from there and that I only got paddled once as a Senior in High School from the oldest teacher in the High School as a “Right of Passage”! Teachers in Appling County don’t just paddle over nothing and most students LAUGH about it later.
ashley
December 2nd, 2009
6:24 pm
@gamom I will read them and take it to the school board thank you. It is sad they let people do this to children. But you have been a big help
Thanks!!
ashley
December 2nd, 2009
6:36 pm
@ FormerAMCSstudent I am not going to post pics of my brothers bottom on the internet. But I will gladly show them to you we have no problem with that. But there are two problems I don’t know who you are and where you can see them. I have all ideas you are a teacher or a teachers family because you know details that were not let known to the public. If you are a teacher I will gladly come to the school and let the teachers see the pics.
proudmomofone
December 2nd, 2009
7:02 pm
the thing i am getting from all this applingalumni person you seem to be a insider telling confidential information and that is wrong. i think what the parent was saying was that putting the bruises on him was wrong and it was. there must have been a problem becauses the teacher got in trouble. and if he got in trouble thats ok he is still a child no matter how big he is it is the parents job to protect him and that is what they are doing.like i said he is a child he is going to make mistakes but he does not deserve the bruises
gamom
December 2nd, 2009
8:05 pm
@formerAMCS – got a question, have you heard of FERPA? Please look it up. No ashley- don’t release sensitve picutres, bad idea!
BaxleyBoy
December 2nd, 2009
8:50 pm
Proud Mom of One: Insider confidential information? Are you serious? It was all on the news! The discipline referral was on the news. There is no confidential information to be distributed. Why would you make such comments? Also, there were other students present in the classroom, and again may someone say, there were TWO other students to receive a paddling. Neither one of these children have “bruises” to report.
Ga Mom: Question? Have YOU heard of the FERPA? If you have, then it clearly states that the parents have rights…. Not bloggers on the internet…
Finally, this crisis could have been avoided if the parent of this “problem child” would have clearly stated at the beginning of his academic year that she did not want him to receive paddlings. Then the school and faculty members would take other measures to handle him and his misbehaviors.
FormerACMSstudent
December 2nd, 2009
8:52 pm
The information was made “unconfidential” by the parent. They went to the press not me. Baxley is a very small town…students talk, teachers talk, and parents talk and when it is on the news the entire town talks.
@ashley-You said the bruises were on his legs. Your store keeps changing.
FormerACMSstudent
December 2nd, 2009
8:55 pm
*story
BaxleyBoy
December 2nd, 2009
9:19 pm
Theresa Edwards:
Are you a joke? I agree with you about if parents “beat” their children they should be placed in jail. But Appling County School System does not take part in “beating” children. I think the term you are looking for is corporal punishment. These acts are not criminal either; they are actions that are taking to punish a child who is uncontrollable, misbehaving, and disrespectful. And it’s because of people like you that spanking a child is looked down upon. Being a former student of Appling County Schools I can personally say that I myself have received corporal punishment which was a paddling. I can also say that the teachers and principals did NOT beat me. I simply received a lick for my punishment. Abolishing corporal punishment will simply increase the way these children misbehave in the classroom!! NOT punishing a child for his/her wrong doings will only implant the thought that he/she can get away with more of their appalling conduct!!
ashley
December 2nd, 2009
9:41 pm
@FormerACMSstudent: In order to see the bruises on his legs you have to see everything he’s got ok. You just think you are a know it all any ways and I don’t have to prove anything to you anyways.
George
March 6th, 2010
2:31 pm
Let me tell you a story… I will be as blunt as possible, if I offend anyone, that’s life. I was a troubled teen, a total trouble maker. I’m a very bright guy, but a bit of a smart ass and as a child I was worse. I would never pay attention in school, I smarted off to all of the teachers and never did any work. I wanted to get back at my parents because I thought that everybody was out to get me as most teenagers do. I was in a private school and I acted up, until I was eventually expelled. I laughed at everyone, so they sent me to another school, the same thing happened. Until I was sent to Mount Carmel High School in Chicago. I acted like an asshole, they beat the shit out of me. Then I acted up again, they beat the shit out of me again. I thought “Cool”
Well ladies and gentlemen, today I am a very disciplined man, I’m an architect and have a very successful practice, I love my parents, as well as my own family and owe everything to the discipline that I was taught at that school. Had it not been for the discipline that I was taught, I’d probably be in jail or dead, as are most of my friends from the neighborhood.
What I find ironic is that parents who don’t want their children disciplined, are usually the ones with the most badly behaved children. Go figure.
Carmel
March 14th, 2010
11:22 pm
I went to Carmel High School in Mundelein, IL where the teacher in religeon class used to place us infront of the class and used a wooden plank board with wooden studs on it infront of the class as we grabbed our ankles.
This was in 1986 and if you cried while he was spanking you he would snap hit harder. Very hard to go through that a priest would act in this fashion.