No balanced calendar: Cobb parents launch petition to save summer

I have been receiving e-mails from Cobb parents unhappy with the new balanced calendar, which my district has also adopted for next year. I am not a fan of all this calendar tinkering only because I don’t see the academic argument and I think it diverts us from the more pressing issues in education. (I wrote my Monday AJC education column on this and will post it later this weekend.)

If academics are the real motivation, then let’s really reform the school calendar and embrace more time on task by adding to the calendar rather than simply rearranging it.

But enough from me. Many people do care strongly about this issue. Parents in Cobb are circulating a petition. I thought many of you might be interested in reading it:

To The Cobb County School Board:

Listen to us now or you will hear us loud and clear at the polls later!

First of all, we do NOT want our summers cut any shorter. Secondly, starting school during the hottest part of the year is not good for the students, the environment or the county’s budget. Thirdly, we resent that our elected School Board officials made a decision that affects our quality of life in Cobb County without getting the input of those who live in Cobb County. Furthermore, not one shred of evidence has been presented to us, including a cost analysis, as to the benefits of a new calendar system or why the current calendar is no longer acceptable. And lastly, we are totally frustrated that you didn’t bother to give us a transition year in order to plan around the new calendar. Camp deposits have already been paid and vacation plans have already been made.

We are disappointed in our elected officials, especially the ones who ran on the platform that they would support a later start to the school year. We would love to know the motivation behind the change of heart!

With Cobb County schools setting the example for education in the state of Georgia, surely we can figure out a calendar that supports our standards of excellence in education as well as offers our students, families and teachers the valued summer time off.

Please don’t jeopardize the reason people move to Cobb Count. We urge you to reconsider the calendar options for the 2010-2011 school year.

If you agree, please go to the link below to sign the Petition Against Cobb County’s Balanced Calendar
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/AgainstBalancedCalendar?e
(You must be registered to vote in Cobb County)
Or go to ipetitions.com and search for AgainstBalancedCalendar

61 comments Add your comment

d

November 21st, 2009
8:26 am

Oh come on already, summer is not going anywhere. People need to stop treating school like a babysitting service already. The reason summer break is so ingrained in our culture dates back to kids needing to work on the farm. We don’t need that any more. Summer is not going anywhere, it is still about 8 weeks just June and July instead of July and August.

ScienceTeacher671

November 21st, 2009
8:58 am

The part about reservations already being made for August 2010 makes sense. Otherwise, I can’t see what the big deal is. Most parents aren’t off all summer, and just have to find childcare for the students during that time, so it’s not like they are missing family time. If one or both parents are unemployed, it doesn’t really matter if the students are off in August or September, does it?

And if it’s too expensive for students to attend school in the hot month of August, isn’t it also too expensive to run the heat in January and February when it’s cold? Do they have heaters on those school buses now? They didn’t when I was a kid, except for the driver.

seriously?

November 21st, 2009
9:02 am

Cobb County students will have 10 weeks of summer vacation in 2010 (schools are out a full week before Memorial Day this school year), nine weeks of summer vacation in 2011, and 9 1/2 weeks in 2012 (there is a Wednesday start that year to keep kids from starting school in July). This seems like ample time for family vacations, camps etc. The argument that people have already paid camp deposits and planned vacations is weak. Just one week of summer vacation is being diverted from the 2010 summer break. That means people are claiming to be losing deposits from the week of August 2-5 2010. Seriously? I can’t imagine there are too many campers in that situation(Granted, I am aware that there is a Boy Scout Jamboree that week in Washington). Shouldn’t people have waited to see a calendar before they paid deposits?
Further, this continued argument that the public did not get input is bogus. The district asked for input for a number of weeks on the district website. Further calling post messages went out a couple of times to every household with kids enrolled in school. When people circulate petitions of this sort, they need to have their facts straight!
Yesterday afternoon was the beginning of Cobb’s week-long Thanksgiving break, and a collective sigh of relief could be heard around this county at around 4:15 Friday afternoon—from teachers and students alike. We have completed 42 percent of the school year, and teachers have had just one day off since Aug 3 (Labor Day), and the kids have had just 2 days off since August 10 (Labor Day and Election Day). That grind is not good for education; we definitely need balance.
While it is hard for people to get their heads around the idea of school for the month of August, I think it is here to stay until and if block scheduling is reconsidered. The only way to complete a course before the holiday break is to start in early August. I think the problem with this whole issue is that school districts want to remain aligned with college calendars, forgetting of course, that colleges don’t have semesters that are 90 days long.

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Nikole

November 21st, 2009
9:13 am

ATTN PARENTS: Get real. You are not going anywhere for the ENTIRE summer. Furthermore, if you would accept a year-round calendar, you will find it refreshing (and cheaper) to go on vacation during different times of the year. A year-round school year would definitely benefit my students, because they would have a better rested, better prepared teacher ALL the time. The amount of burn out that I go through in a school year is crazy. Let’s think about what’s best for children. Georgians need to start thinking outside of the box in order to better educate students.

August is no time for school

November 21st, 2009
9:58 am

The Cobb petition is correct. July and August are too important in so many ways to be cannibalized by the balanced calendar. Expand the calendar, modify it, doodle with it, but get over the obsession with sending kids to school during the traditional vacation time of August. The hallowed European systems don’t go in August, nor do the Asians, nor our neighbors in other states. All of them manage quite well.

Those who fixate on the “burn out” issue also miss the reality of what happens in school. That Friday before those breaks becomes a wasted day as kids (and teachers) obsess about the coming break. The first day back after a week off is spent reviewing. Continuity is lost. Add a few three day weekends to the calendar and the stress is eliminated without losing continuity.

In the real world, people work year round with a few national holidays and a couple weeks vacation tossed in. Kids and teachers can handle that as well.

Concerned parent.

November 21st, 2009
11:08 am

Nikole; I have seen absolutely NO benefits from this “balanced calendar”in the years we have had it in place in Cherokee. The teachers are not in the slightest bit nicer, more rested, more patient or any of that malarkey! They still give the kids work to do over those breaks..usually in the guise of” you don’t have any homework, but that gigantic science fair project is due two days after you get back! And why the hell should we NOT care about childcare here?! When did their needs become a crime? The teachers will be off WITH their kids so it’s no skin off their noses! Other parents have to find alternate childcare or leave kids home alone unattended and unsafe. Since WHEN does this not matter?!!. If this does not matter to the people who were trusted to stand up for our and our kids needs, then GET THEM OUT OF THERE!! The ones who go to childcare have the same sort of day that they would with school in…up at 5:30, off to some miserable place for the day and home again at six or six thirty…some blooming BREAK..NOT! AND not a blasted ounce of improvement has been proved academically with this plan. As for the ridiculous argument that vacations are just as fun other parts of the year…HOGWASH. Only the affluent can even take vacations..in this environment many of us are staying at home. Summer has all the great benefits of long days to play…even if not back from camp until six..still lots of hours for fresh air and play! All the employees in an office who have kids cannot take the same week in February off, but they can stagger weeks during the summmer. Daycare during those single weeks is pandemonium and every man for himself- summer programs are planned and fun. Make a change for the betterment of the kids and better education if you will…but THIS AIN”T IT!

too many whiners

November 21st, 2009
11:45 am

Well, I thought teachers are whiners…

Mom

November 21st, 2009
11:51 am

When did it become the concern of schools to provide daycare? That is NOT their job. They are responsible for educating our children, not babysitting them. How refreshing it is to have school board that listens to the teachers opinions. I can only believe that if my children’s teachers feel they will be more effective with frequent breaks we should give them the chance to prove it. Most kids are bored and ready to go back to school in July anyway.

Mom

November 21st, 2009
11:52 am

Way too many whiners!

Concerned parent.

November 21st, 2009
12:11 pm

This is NOT whining- this is calling it what it is…teachers got their way because they whined Oh, poor me, I’m so tired..( I’d LOVE to hear a nurse try that one!)…I’m NOT talking about providing day care.. MOM…I’m talking about NOT creating NEW problems and unsafe conditions for parents and kids…in a thinly disguised effort to deal with the teachers’ whining. Cause that’s all it was…bending to the teachers. Nobody else benefits…I no longer have daycare issues..I get to stay home with mine, now. But I know how it is for those who work and I’m standing up for the ones who do and for truth in reporting. Show us the money- Show us that the balanced calendar does anything for anyone other than public school employees. Show us, most of all…improved education..it is NOT happening!!!

d

November 21st, 2009
12:39 pm

What do parents do with their kids in June and July that they can’t figure out to do for a week in September or February? DeKalb tried to do something like this and parents howled they couldn’t get child care, but how then do you find it during the summer?

Mom

November 21st, 2009
1:42 pm

I am in my kids’ schools frequently and have never heard whining from teachers. They were asked for their opinion on the calendar and gave it! I have seen much for them to whine about. Long hours, little pay and complaining parents. They are not in it for the money, but out of love for your kids. It is high time someone took into account those in the ‘front lines’ educating our kids. My kids are past the point of need for day care but I know that daycare centers will certainly fill the need for that in September and February as easily as they do in July and August. The calendar is still 180 days of school. What is the big deal whether the weeks off are in the summer or not??

Consider this

November 21st, 2009
1:44 pm

The Board did seek and receive input from parents prior to making their decision. I go to cobbk12.org quite regularly and I saw the notice on the website asking parents to e-mail their board member to share their input regarding the calendars. I also received a robocall in advance that informed me that the various calendar options were on the district website and asked me to contact my board member with my opinion. I was also encouraged by my local PTA to review the calendars and contact my board member to weigh in as I saw fit. Like many parents, I e-mailed my board member in favor of the balanced calendar option. Just because your option didn’t win, it doesn’t mean that it wasn’t considered. Instead of being so sure that this isn’t what parents want, have you ever considered that possibly the majority of parents did want the balanced option? I remember reading somewhere that one board member had received 1400 emails from parents in favor of the balanced calendar.

For the folks whining about camp and vacation deposits – were you really going to camp or vacation the first week in August? Were you going to miss your school’s meet and greet or sneak a peek to do that? Personally, I value the time to meet my kids’ teachers, buy school supplies, and get back into the routine, so I don’t make any plans for the first week in August anyway. I’m also looking forward to booking a vacation in September, when rates are cheaper.

Mom

November 21st, 2009
1:47 pm

I no longer have daycare issues either. But I do spend time in my kids schools. I have never heard teachers complaining about any calendar. From what I understand, they were asked for their opinion and gave it. Too often they are ignored and they are the ones on the front lines educating our kids. They have as much right to care about the calendar as the parents do. After all, it is not us vs. them, we are all on the same side and want what is best for our children. Day cares will certainly fill the needs of the community in February and September just like they do in July and August. The calendar has been approved. Myabe the whiners should go do something constructive to help their kids schools and quit complaining!

lynn

November 21st, 2009
2:06 pm

Maureen is right on. Simply restructuring when the 180 days are doesn’t improve academic achievement at all. Not one bit.

There are some really other important factors that have been left out of this discussion. The day before any break is a waste. Most middle and high school teachers will assign projects and tests due immediately after the break.

It is obscenely expensive to go anywhere during that February break where the weather is either bearable or perfect for skiing.

Some students do spend their summers at sleep away camps, enrichment programs, and with their grandparents.

We have far more Orange and Red days in terms of levels of pollutions in August as compared to June. Adding the school buses to August is problematic already, having school start earlier in August

Debby

November 21st, 2009
2:20 pm

We’ve had the balanced calendar for several years now in Henry County and I love it. The daycare issue is the parents’ problem, not the school’s. What do you do with your kids any other time there is no school??

And don’t even start with all the playing outside the kids can do in the summer. What a crock!! All I ever heard from my kids was how it was too hot to be outside.

The week off every six weeks is great. Try it, you will probably end up really liking it.

too many whiners

November 21st, 2009
2:32 pm

Concerned parent,

YES YOU ARE WHINING – there is NO way around it. You are just whining because you have to change something. STOP WHINING.

A balanced calendar isn’t going to cost a district any money – teachers are still getting paid the same amount. You still have to maintain the facilities with or without students/teachers. School buses will run exactly the same number of miles.

Although it is probably true that no noticeable difference in academics will result, one of the principles of good teaching is spreading out learning opportunities.

DivaGLAM

November 21st, 2009
2:40 pm

I should no longer wonder why students are the way they are when they have such WHINNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYY parents!!!! I was a corporate parent years before I became a teacher and as a parent I know that I AM RESPONSIBLE for finding childcare for my child! School is not childcare. What is the real problem here? If your child ‘loses’ information from being off a week of school, THEY never had it in the first place. You can’t lose what you never had!!!! Also, if you read the petition there was a typo…who proofed the letter?? Not persuasive at all. Why can’t we let the county do what they feel is best for us? If you know more than they do apply for their positions, run for office, or better yet, teach your own kids…AT HOME!!!!!

Reality Mom

November 21st, 2009
2:46 pm

I would like to meet the parents that can afford to take 10 weeks off at a time to spend time with their kids. Do they call the mortage company and say…taking the summer off, don’t send a bill? So the ONE camp that is having something in August is supposed to sway the whole vote? If you can afford to send your son to D.C. for the camp…then go ahead a send them and enroll you child in school when you get back. Doesn’t seem like that big a deal. And our school system has “”unexcused” absences alowed, doesn’t yours? So take a few days off if you need to. It seems like there are more important things in the schools that all this energy could be put towards.

Believe it or NOT

November 21st, 2009
3:15 pm

The government wants kids in school all year. Think about it. They would have their undivided attention for 8 hours a day.

Concerned parent.

November 21st, 2009
3:21 pm

Name calling and no substance and from whom???…the TEACHERS, of course- We KNOW where you stand on this..self interest. You don’t give a hoot about the parents, the kids or better education. Why do you think there’s been such a rise in home scshooling and such a huge push for charter schools? Because so many of you public school teachers hate your jobs and hate the parents and the kids…

Mom

November 21st, 2009
4:00 pm

Concerned parent- you sure sound bitter. Why do you want to pick on the people your children spend 7-8 hours a day with? If you are so unhappy with the public school system I am sure there are lots of private schools that would love to have you write them a check.

jay

November 21st, 2009
4:02 pm

Concerned parent, what’s your point?

jay

November 21st, 2009
4:06 pm

Mom I agree with you. Concerned parent apparently do not know that she can spend her money paying for a private school or put her name in the pot a charter school. In Addition, she is not aware that those teachers who she says hate their jobs and children are Certified in their field, unlike Charter School or Private School Teachers. Most people do not know that only Public School Teachers have to be certified.

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Concerned parent.

November 21st, 2009
4:22 pm

Jay- the point is …parents and kids are being forced into balanced calendars with little or no input from the us (the employers, by the way) and sold as something it is NOT-improvement. It happened in Cherokee and now in Cobb. Teachers love it because they benefit- working parents and kids get no benefit… elected board members betrayed the parents and this should not be left to sneak on by…Yay Cobb county parents for having enough guts to fight for their kids’ right to a reasonable school calendar and for calling the board members out for betraying their constituents! The end.

Mom

November 21st, 2009
4:56 pm

Concerned parent, Exactly how do the teachers benefit from the balanced calendar? They still work the same number of days.

too many whiners

November 21st, 2009
6:08 pm

Concerned,

It should be quite clear that it’s a VERY small minority who don’t like the balanced calendar. You can keep whining, but keep your whining to yourself.

Current parent, former teacher

November 21st, 2009
8:16 pm

I wish all 50 states would adopt the same (or similar) calendar. I could care less when we start or get out. But there are many businesses that suffer with school systems around the country being so wildly different in school start/end dates. Interlochen Fine Arts Camp in Michigan used to serve middle school kids for 4 weeks and high school students for 8 each summer. But, given that schools in the north start after Labor Day and get out in June, and we down here start in August and end at Memorial Day, Interlochen has shortened their sessions. I know the owner of a camp here in Georgia. He and all other owners are having a lot of trouble filling out sessions. These are just two examples. Again, we need a more uniform calendar across the country. This is ridiculous. And I’m with Maureen, too. Smoke and mirrors changes to the calendar won’t make a big difference; we need more time with students…and maybe try to emulate school systems that are successful!

majii

November 21st, 2009
8:27 pm

Monroe County has started the school year in the first week of August for many years, and it has worked out. I’m wondering how many interested parties went to BOE meetings, PTA meetings, or visited the county’s website. You’d be surprised at how little inflluence teachers have on the system schedule, even with their input. Teachers really don’t have a lot of power where school/systemwide decisions are concerned as it is usually the BOE and/or the head admministrator making the decisions. Teachers, in most instances, are the last to know.

tail wagging a dog???

November 21st, 2009
9:45 pm

Why should we establish school calendars for businesses???

David S

November 21st, 2009
9:58 pm

You know if the government didn’t take your money and waste it on the horrible schools they run, you would be able to take your money and walk and seek out a school whose calendar and schedule best met your needs. You would be able to send them there regardless of where you lived, and without worrying about shifting district lines. You would be able to evaluate curricula and other important factors and choose among dozens of options available that met your criteria.

But alas, you carry your signs, submit your petitions, bend down and kiss the hand that beats you and your child, and beg for your oppressor to see that accomodating your vacation schedule is more important than the political favors that are buying their votes and their decisions on this matter.

Suckers. Homeschool. Pull your kids out en masse and watch the system collapse under its own bureaucracy. Then you might see real changes.

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Mom

November 22nd, 2009
8:09 am

Tail wagging, I agree. Schools need to be concerened with educating our kids, not the pocketbooks of businesses. I would still like to know how the balanced calendar benefits teachers.

Concerned parent.

November 22nd, 2009
10:03 am

MOM here’s how teachers benefit….teachers are off more frequently so they can get away from the “spoiled brats” as they call them (read the blogs). They are their own childcare so they don’t have any additional emotional stress or financial loss. They get to sleep in, laze around, rest. Kids of working parents still have to get up early and be dragged to daycare…NO break for them. In the summer, teachers do not have to work vacations around coworkers who also need to plan vacations. Teachers can pick any week in the summer to go on vacation, plan family vacations, etc. Benefits for parent or kids…name one! And please…do something besides name-calling- if you were negatively impacted here, teachers, you’d be up in arms too…and you wouldn’t call it whining.

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
11:42 am

I guess concerned parent. doesn’t know any teachers with non-teaching spouses, seeing as she assumes that teachers have all this freedom to “not have to work vacations around coworkers who also need to plan vacations.” I guess concerned parent. doesn’t know any teachers who need to work summers, too, just to pay the bills. I guess concerned parent. doesn’t know any teachers who are not only their own but others childcare during these “breaks.”

I guess concerned parent. needs to become “concerned teacher.” so she can see just how fun and wonderful and easy teaching is – after all, they have “all those breaks.” Tell me concerned parent., why aren’t you a teacher if teaching is such a great job? Really, why aren’t you a teacher? I really want to know, from you and any other teacher-basher who claims teachers have it so good, WHY AREN’T YOU A TEACHER?? With all these “pros” I really want to know what you consider the “cons.”

Concerned parent

November 22nd, 2009
2:22 pm

@Oh, wow! Aren’t you pleasant?! Sounds like you really hate what you do. Guess what…I was a teacher! Recognized burnout when I saw it and changed professions…so I wouldn’t end up as sour and mean as you and so many others around me. And the situations you describe are the exceptions… the majority of teacher parents are home with their kids and do not send them to childcare during those weeks. And, of course, one spouse works. That’s only one work schedule to work around to plan vacation, family reunion…as opposed to 2 for working parents…twice as hard as one…(a little math and logic for you) Been there, done that. Try again.

Vivian

November 22nd, 2009
6:32 pm

Teachers that blog blog blog…..If teaching is such a terrible profession, then please get out and I heard the McDonald’s is hiring.

ScienceTeacher671

November 22nd, 2009
7:44 pm

@Concerned parent – You quit teaching because you were getting “burned out”, but you don’t think people who are currently teaching need more breaks so they won’t “burn out”?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
7:59 pm

@concerned parent. – I laughed when you said I was sour and mean, because I would’ve definitely applied the same terms to your post – which was why I was inspired to reply in kind :-p

And did I say I was a teacher? I think not. For the record, I am not, and will never be a teacher, summers off or not. To me, it’s not worth the grief and aggravation from snot-nosed brats whose parents didn’t raise them to respect any kind of authority and from those same obnoxious parents who think because they pay taxes that that entitles them to belittle an entire profession of people. It’s not worth the CUT in pay I would take. It’s not worth losing my nights and weekends to more mind-numbing paperwork. It’s not worth the pi$$-poor public perception. That’s why I don’t teach – how about you??

I’m not a teacher, but I am a parent who has been blessed with WONDERFUL teachers for my kids – I wonder if MY attitude has anything to do with that? Teachers need our support, not our derision. I love how parents who don’t support the calendar want to blame and bash the teachers AGAIN, when first, only 51% of those who voted chose the balanced calendar, and the second, teachers weren’t voting on that board. It’s hardly their fault. I know lots of parents like me who wanted the balanced calendar and we wrote to our board members – mine DIDN’T vote the way I wanted, BTW – I think he kowtowed to the vocal minority in my district.

So concerned parent. you STILL didn’t answer my question, but your answer definitely piqued my interest – you said you were a teacher but you quit because of burn-out – so what burned you out? Would more frequent breaks have helped? As far as your lesson in math and logic goes – FAIL. Every job is different and one person may have no trouble at all taking time when they want – no matter what their spouse does. Different businesses have different busy times – retail vs tax accountants, for example – it’s a moot point. And teachers have NO say in vacations at any other time in the year than during the prescribed breaks, which to me, an avowed bargain hunter, is a worse trade-off. All I was trying to do was to get you to look at the entire picture – I guess on that I get a FAIL.

@Vivian – you wouldn’t be part of that vocal East Cobb minority, would you? For the record, a manager’s position at McDonald’s pays MORE than a teaching position for a teacher with a BA/BS up to about 10 years of experience. Teachers, like any other person in the US, have a right to blog blog blog – when dealing with attitudes like yours, they probably need to vent vent vent.

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
10:08 pm

@ concerned parent. – I replied once but my post got eaten – I am not, nor have I been, nor would I ever be a teacher. I support them though – my educational experience in public schools was terrific, as is the one my children are currently experiencing. I am curious about your “burn out” comment though – how is it that you got burnt out, but current teachers aren’t allowed that luxury? What burnt you out and are current teachers miraculously immune from such? As far as my “mean-spirited-ness,” well, that was deliberate as I felt I was responding in kind.

@Vivian – a managerial job at McDonald’s pays more than a teacher with a Bachelor’s and up to 10 years experience – I’m sure it’s less stress – I’d rather deal with an angry customer than an angry parent. Teachers have the right to blog blog blog – with comments like yours they need to vent vent vent.

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
10:08 pm

This is the third attempt to post…

@ concerned parent. – I replied once but my post got eaten – I am not, nor have I been, nor would I ever be a teacher. I support them though – my educational experience in public schools was terrific, as is the one my children are currently experiencing. I am curious about your “burn out” comment though – how is it that you got burnt out, but current teachers aren’t allowed that luxury? What burnt you out and are current teachers miraculously immune from such? As far as my “mean-spirited-ness,” well, that was deliberate as I felt I was responding in kind.

@Vivian – a managerial job at McDonald’s pays more than a teacher with a Bachelor’s and up to 10 years experience – I’m sure it’s less stress – I’d rather deal with an angry customer than an angry parent. Teachers have the right to blog blog blog – with comments like yours they need to vent vent vent.

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
10:09 pm

4th time – breaking it down…

@ concerned parent. – I replied once but my post got eaten – I am not, nor have I been, nor would I ever be a teacher. I support them though – my educational experience in public schools was terrific, as is the one my children are currently experiencing. I am curious about your “burn out” comment though – how is it that you got burnt out, but current teachers aren’t allowed that luxury? What burnt you out and are current teachers miraculously immune from such? As far as my “mean-spirited-ness,” well, that was deliberate as I felt I was responding in kind.

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
11:06 pm

not a teacher

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
11:08 pm

figures that posted and the other three comments I tried did not – oh well. concenred parent. as far as “mean-spirited” goes, I responded in kind to you post. It’s good you got out – clearly. Still it begs the question – why is it that it’s ok for you to get burnt out, but not realistic for others?

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
11:09 pm

“concerned” and “your” – figures I don’t proof the post that DOES show up.

And I’m not a teacher – never would be either.

Oh, wow!

November 22nd, 2009
11:12 pm

You know, upon rereading my original post, I don’t think my post is that mean spirited. And I really do want to know, from all you who aren’t teachers – what keeps you from doing that job? Seriously, why aren’t you teachers – if teachers have it so good, and should never complain (or blog blog blog), why aren’t you teachers?

Sarge

November 23rd, 2009
1:23 pm

Poor parents…their kids’ education can be so inconvenient!

Vivian

November 23rd, 2009
5:13 pm

Oh Wow must have alot of time on their hands. Do I know you Oh Wow? Or are you one of the employees on Glover street that love to blog blog. Happy Thanksgiving Oh Wow!