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	<title>Comments on: Recession over. &#8216;Joyless&#8217; recovery ahead for Georgia schools</title>
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		<title>By: Sarge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/10/02/recession-over-joyless-recovery-ahead-for-georgia-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-13262</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya gotta love it...our govt leaders, from high atop that mound within the beltway, proclaim, with brash certainty, THE RECESSION&#039;s OVER, do not panic, go about your daily tendings...all is well! Then the local annointees, insulated from that which we know as reality, announce &quot;what he said...me to&quot;! All this happy talk, emanating from those whom we come to trust as gurus of the final word, to the average joe, mean very little, if anything at all. These soothing proclamations are tantamount to the ER doc, in equally-assuring tones, telling the screaming patient, bone protruding from leg, &quot;it&#039;s ok, you&#039;re on the mend&quot;! Sure, we all know that SOMEDAY, all will be well, but in the meantime, here on main street, USA, we&#039;re not quite ready to uncork the champagne. Plan for the (expected) recovery, by all means...but let&#039;s not loose sight of the fact that the patients&#039; leg is going to need some time and resources for a full and complete mend...without this approach to mending the economy, the patient will just hobble around on an incomplete recovery, reminescing about the good ole days when things weren&#039;t so bad after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya gotta love it&#8230;our govt leaders, from high atop that mound within the beltway, proclaim, with brash certainty, THE RECESSION&#8217;s OVER, do not panic, go about your daily tendings&#8230;all is well! Then the local annointees, insulated from that which we know as reality, announce &#8220;what he said&#8230;me to&#8221;! All this happy talk, emanating from those whom we come to trust as gurus of the final word, to the average joe, mean very little, if anything at all. These soothing proclamations are tantamount to the ER doc, in equally-assuring tones, telling the screaming patient, bone protruding from leg, &#8220;it&#8217;s ok, you&#8217;re on the mend&#8221;! Sure, we all know that SOMEDAY, all will be well, but in the meantime, here on main street, USA, we&#8217;re not quite ready to uncork the champagne. Plan for the (expected) recovery, by all means&#8230;but let&#8217;s not loose sight of the fact that the patients&#8217; leg is going to need some time and resources for a full and complete mend&#8230;without this approach to mending the economy, the patient will just hobble around on an incomplete recovery, reminescing about the good ole days when things weren&#8217;t so bad after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line....

An estimated 70% of our economy is dependent upon consumer spending and we are still bleeding jobs.  The latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates that another 263,000 people lost their jobs in September.  Obviously, the 7.2 million people who lost their jobs since January of 2008 are not going out and spending money, so where is this miraculous recovery coming from?

GM announced that the deal to sell Saturn fell through, so it will probably shut down.  Either that, or they will transition some of their production from older facilities to the Tenn plant, which was built in the late 80&#039;s, early 90&#039;s.

The auto sales saw a brief blip due to the Cash for Clunkers program, but as Jim D noted, they merely borrowed from future sales.  Look for new car sales to bottom out 4th qtr 2009 - 1st qtr 2010.

Lastly, our little socialist in the White House is still intent upon giving amnesty to the 30 million illegals and take over health care - you know, the one industry that was &quot;recession proof.&quot;

Horsefeathers indeed.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&amp;series_id=CES0000000001&amp;output_view=net_1mth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line&#8230;.</p>
<p>An estimated 70% of our economy is dependent upon consumer spending and we are still bleeding jobs.  The latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates that another 263,000 people lost their jobs in September.  Obviously, the 7.2 million people who lost their jobs since January of 2008 are not going out and spending money, so where is this miraculous recovery coming from?</p>
<p>GM announced that the deal to sell Saturn fell through, so it will probably shut down.  Either that, or they will transition some of their production from older facilities to the Tenn plant, which was built in the late 80&#8217;s, early 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The auto sales saw a brief blip due to the Cash for Clunkers program, but as Jim D noted, they merely borrowed from future sales.  Look for new car sales to bottom out 4th qtr 2009 &#8211; 1st qtr 2010.</p>
<p>Lastly, our little socialist in the White House is still intent upon giving amnesty to the 30 million illegals and take over health care &#8211; you know, the one industry that was &#8220;recession proof.&#8221;</p>
<p>Horsefeathers indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, there is no data available for Q3, so anything this guys says is purely his own prediction, and he doesn’t appear very good at that either.

The two fed programs mentioned here were designed as temporary measures to stop the free fall and won’t be reflected in future GDP numbers.  Even IF Q3 goes positive, which would make Humphries technically correct, you still have to back out the effect of temporary programs to understand what you’re really seeing.

The BLS just revised Q2 productivity to 6.6 per cent, the largest increase in six years.  Most people (Jim being a notable exception) don’t understand what this means or the implications of this type of increase.  When non farm payroll drops a LOT more than GDP (which is how the BLS calculates this number), businesses are more likely to survive a downturn, but it paints a very bleak picture for future employment, which is exactly what has to increase to sustain a recovery.

I’ll skip the other 98 things Humphries overlooked and agree with Jim – this guy is just blowing smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, there is no data available for Q3, so anything this guys says is purely his own prediction, and he doesn’t appear very good at that either.</p>
<p>The two fed programs mentioned here were designed as temporary measures to stop the free fall and won’t be reflected in future GDP numbers.  Even IF Q3 goes positive, which would make Humphries technically correct, you still have to back out the effect of temporary programs to understand what you’re really seeing.</p>
<p>The BLS just revised Q2 productivity to 6.6 per cent, the largest increase in six years.  Most people (Jim being a notable exception) don’t understand what this means or the implications of this type of increase.  When non farm payroll drops a LOT more than GDP (which is how the BLS calculates this number), businesses are more likely to survive a downturn, but it paints a very bleak picture for future employment, which is exactly what has to increase to sustain a recovery.</p>
<p>I’ll skip the other 98 things Humphries overlooked and agree with Jim – this guy is just blowing smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: Recession over. &#39;Joyless&#39; recovery ahead for Georgia schools &#124; Get &#8230; &#124; Georgia realestate live today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recession over. &#39;Joyless&#39; recovery ahead for Georgia schools &#124; Get &#8230; &#124; Georgia realestate live today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maureen Downey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen Downey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim d, Must have been jackassery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim d, Must have been jackassery.</p>
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		<title>By: jim d</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/10/02/recession-over-joyless-recovery-ahead-for-georgia-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-13200</link>
		<dc:creator>jim d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mo, can you free the one up between 4:14 and 4:28?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mo, can you free the one up between 4:14 and 4:28?</p>
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		<title>By: jim d</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/10/02/recession-over-joyless-recovery-ahead-for-georgia-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-13199</link>
		<dc:creator>jim d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have known the filters would catch that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have known the filters would catch that one.</p>
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		<title>By: jim d</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/10/02/recession-over-joyless-recovery-ahead-for-georgia-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-13198</link>
		<dc:creator>jim d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HORSEFEATHERS-----Synonyms: applesauce, balderdash, baloney, bilge, claptrap, eyewash, flimflam, garbage, hogwash, hooey,  jazz, piffle, poppycock, rot, rubbish, tomfoolery, tommyrot, trash, twaddle  and my favorite jackassery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HORSEFEATHERS&#8212;&#8211;Synonyms: applesauce, balderdash, baloney, bilge, claptrap, eyewash, flimflam, garbage, hogwash, hooey,  jazz, piffle, poppycock, rot, rubbish, tomfoolery, tommyrot, trash, twaddle  and my favorite jackassery</p>
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		<title>By: jim d</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mo,

It is a nice way of saying BULL S#@%

I hated to go here since it takes us way off topic but since you asked.

&quot;He said federal efforts are working, citing the boost to automobile-related industries from the cash for clunker program and the improving picture for single family home sales from the first-time buyer tax credit.&quot;

It ain&#039;t over. Cash for Clunkers will soon bite us in the arse when the repos start going back and then drag on for years of slow auto sales since so many people will be driving new cars. The normal cycle of auto purchases has been disrupted and will play out over the next several years. the same will happen with the presidents efforts to stimulate the real estate business.

 Is it over? I think we&#039;ve just begun to see the start of something much worse that will be drawn out for decades to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mo,</p>
<p>It is a nice way of saying BULL S#@%</p>
<p>I hated to go here since it takes us way off topic but since you asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;He said federal efforts are working, citing the boost to automobile-related industries from the cash for clunker program and the improving picture for single family home sales from the first-time buyer tax credit.&#8221;</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t over. Cash for Clunkers will soon bite us in the arse when the repos start going back and then drag on for years of slow auto sales since so many people will be driving new cars. The normal cycle of auto purchases has been disrupted and will play out over the next several years. the same will happen with the presidents efforts to stimulate the real estate business.</p>
<p> Is it over? I think we&#8217;ve just begun to see the start of something much worse that will be drawn out for decades to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Downey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/10/02/recession-over-joyless-recovery-ahead-for-georgia-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-13195</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Downey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jim d, OK, you are going to have explain &quot;Horsefeathers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jim d, OK, you are going to have explain &#8220;Horsefeathers.&#8221;</p>
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