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	<title>Comments on: After Kanye West, maybe it&#8217;s time for manner classes</title>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kanye is and has always been classless and racist.....he was at home on MTV , and doesn&#039;t deserve any attention , such a loser!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kanye is and has always been classless and racist&#8230;..he was at home on MTV , and doesn&#8217;t deserve any attention , such a loser!</p>
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		<title>By: Intown singleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intown singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Maureen,
Today&#039;s &quot;merit scholar&quot; (aka: middle class kids getting a free education while the less fortunate can play the lottery) students at a nearby Tier Two state university have no qualms lambasting teachers (me) in person and on evaluations--especially right after they receive a grade lower than a B on any assignment.  Furthermore, the &quot;department&quot; feeds their power by not backing you up in any way, shape or form. And no &quot;thank you&quot; note on the way out the grad assistantship door, either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Maureen,<br />
Today&#8217;s &#8220;merit scholar&#8221; (aka: middle class kids getting a free education while the less fortunate can play the lottery) students at a nearby Tier Two state university have no qualms lambasting teachers (me) in person and on evaluations&#8211;especially right after they receive a grade lower than a B on any assignment.  Furthermore, the &#8220;department&#8221; feeds their power by not backing you up in any way, shape or form. And no &#8220;thank you&#8221; note on the way out the grad assistantship door, either!</p>
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		<title>By: Intown singleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intown singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as for David S, take a look at yesterday&#039;s NYTIMES story on your drinking water--a product of the un-fined, unregulated marketplace for the last eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as for David S, take a look at yesterday&#8217;s NYTIMES story on your drinking water&#8211;a product of the un-fined, unregulated marketplace for the last eight years.</p>
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		<title>By: Intown singleton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/14/after-kanye-west-maybe-its-time-for-manner-classes/comment-page-2/#comment-11213</link>
		<dc:creator>Intown singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Gwinett Parent:

Grammar also is a form of decorum, i.e.--&quot;Joe Wilson’s outbursts is what makes this country great.&quot;

I&#039;m sure you meant to say &quot;are what&quot;...right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gwinett Parent:</p>
<p>Grammar also is a form of decorum, i.e.&#8211;&#8221;Joe Wilson’s outbursts is what makes this country great.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you meant to say &#8220;are what&#8221;&#8230;right?</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of random thoughts loosely related to this forum....
1) Joe Wilson was wrong, not to disagree, but the timing.  There is protocol for this, and the opposing party always has a televised response after the president speaks.  If Congressman Wilson wanted to disagree with the president in a public forum, why did he not seek to become the person to deliver the response?  We are never going to reach a true consensus on this matter, but to anyone who says health care isn&#039;t a constitutional right, I say check the ninth amendment, and remember the Declaration of Independence, despite having no basis in law, does say we have the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness -- doesn&#039;t life require health?
2) Kanye West was just out of place.  He ruined a night for a talented young lady.  It is nice to see people reacting the same way to him as they did when the Dixie Chicks made their comment several years ago.  
3) Respect should be earned, but in the classroom it should be a given.  Unless a teacher does something to lose that, the students should show a certain amount of respect for the teacher in the classroom not only as the authority figure but as a person who holds the fate of students in their hands.  Despite the fact I teach seniors, they are not the adults in the classroom yet.  I will show common courtesy to them, but in return, when I ask a student to do something, he or she should do what is asked.  I don&#039;t talk just to hear myself talk.
4) When did the term &quot;government schools&quot; take ground?  Yes the schools are run by the government, but people forget in our republic, we hold the power.  If the people don&#039;t like what is going on, it is their responsibility to replace the people in charge, but we as Americans seem afraid to do that.  How can Congress have a 20% approval rating and not get changed..... the problem is we say the issue isn&#039;t with our representative, it&#039;s with the other 532 of them, or the other members of the Board of Education, or whatever it is.  We so blindly follow the little &quot;Incumb&quot;, &quot;R&quot;, or &quot;D&quot; after an elected official&#039;s name on the ballot that we never have change.  I am not advocating term limits, because we can see with the current governor what happens when he or she is no longer accountable to the people -- we can go fish in the governor&#039;s home county in the near future with no funding cuts to that program, but he asked all 180 school districts to furlough teachers for three days.  Now as much as I disagree with that, I won&#039;t call him out in public, but certainly, we do have means of correcting such horrible policies.  We have to hold our elected officials accountable when they fail to do their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of random thoughts loosely related to this forum&#8230;.<br />
1) Joe Wilson was wrong, not to disagree, but the timing.  There is protocol for this, and the opposing party always has a televised response after the president speaks.  If Congressman Wilson wanted to disagree with the president in a public forum, why did he not seek to become the person to deliver the response?  We are never going to reach a true consensus on this matter, but to anyone who says health care isn&#8217;t a constitutional right, I say check the ninth amendment, and remember the Declaration of Independence, despite having no basis in law, does say we have the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness &#8212; doesn&#8217;t life require health?<br />
2) Kanye West was just out of place.  He ruined a night for a talented young lady.  It is nice to see people reacting the same way to him as they did when the Dixie Chicks made their comment several years ago.<br />
3) Respect should be earned, but in the classroom it should be a given.  Unless a teacher does something to lose that, the students should show a certain amount of respect for the teacher in the classroom not only as the authority figure but as a person who holds the fate of students in their hands.  Despite the fact I teach seniors, they are not the adults in the classroom yet.  I will show common courtesy to them, but in return, when I ask a student to do something, he or she should do what is asked.  I don&#8217;t talk just to hear myself talk.<br />
4) When did the term &#8220;government schools&#8221; take ground?  Yes the schools are run by the government, but people forget in our republic, we hold the power.  If the people don&#8217;t like what is going on, it is their responsibility to replace the people in charge, but we as Americans seem afraid to do that.  How can Congress have a 20% approval rating and not get changed&#8230;.. the problem is we say the issue isn&#8217;t with our representative, it&#8217;s with the other 532 of them, or the other members of the Board of Education, or whatever it is.  We so blindly follow the little &#8220;Incumb&#8221;, &#8220;R&#8221;, or &#8220;D&#8221; after an elected official&#8217;s name on the ballot that we never have change.  I am not advocating term limits, because we can see with the current governor what happens when he or she is no longer accountable to the people &#8212; we can go fish in the governor&#8217;s home county in the near future with no funding cuts to that program, but he asked all 180 school districts to furlough teachers for three days.  Now as much as I disagree with that, I won&#8217;t call him out in public, but certainly, we do have means of correcting such horrible policies.  We have to hold our elected officials accountable when they fail to do their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet again the &quot;VOICE OF THE PEOPLE&quot; speaks.............wat to go tough guy, you are most certainly not my voice, get a life moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet again the &#8220;VOICE OF THE PEOPLE&#8221; speaks&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.wat to go tough guy, you are most certainly not my voice, get a life moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Native Atlantan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Native Atlantan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A-men, Soulfinger.  Unfortunately, manners are going right out the door with civility following shortly after.  Unless parents instill good manners in their children starting when they are toddlers and reinforcing the fact that as the parents, THEY are in charge and NOT their kids, it is too late  Also, unless parents back up the teachers in discipline and in teaching children manners, you can probably guess how that kid is going to act!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A-men, Soulfinger.  Unfortunately, manners are going right out the door with civility following shortly after.  Unless parents instill good manners in their children starting when they are toddlers and reinforcing the fact that as the parents, THEY are in charge and NOT their kids, it is too late  Also, unless parents back up the teachers in discipline and in teaching children manners, you can probably guess how that kid is going to act!</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have written MARTA about this several times, without any resolution.&quot;

Good luck with that.  When I rode, I wrote them about their employees&#039; incompetence, and they shrugged me off every time.  Now I laugh every time I read about them begging for taxpayer money.  I hope they go bankrupt and their employees are relegated to selling oranges at interstate exits.  (Was that rude?  I&#039;m sorry.  But it&#039;s certainly well-deserved.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have written MARTA about this several times, without any resolution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good luck with that.  When I rode, I wrote them about their employees&#8217; incompetence, and they shrugged me off every time.  Now I laugh every time I read about them begging for taxpayer money.  I hope they go bankrupt and their employees are relegated to selling oranges at interstate exits.  (Was that rude?  I&#8217;m sorry.  But it&#8217;s certainly well-deserved.)</p>
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		<title>By: Soulfinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soulfinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I weep for the future.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I weep for the future&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad manners are actually celebrated. For example, witness our hometown telvsion show &quot;The Real Housewives of Atlanta&quot;. Millions witness loud, potty mouth antics from grown womwn weekly. Music of all genre from country, rock and roll, hip hop and rap glorify being an outlaw. Civic pride, fellowship, character still exist, however not it&#039;s no longer the social norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad manners are actually celebrated. For example, witness our hometown telvsion show &#8220;The Real Housewives of Atlanta&#8221;. Millions witness loud, potty mouth antics from grown womwn weekly. Music of all genre from country, rock and roll, hip hop and rap glorify being an outlaw. Civic pride, fellowship, character still exist, however not it&#8217;s no longer the social norm.</p>
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