Comments on: Sick or tired? When ill kids come to school anyway http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/ Your source to discuss and learn about education in Atlanta, Georgia and the nation Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:13:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Berry http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-15202 Berry Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:58:34 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-15202 The most ridiculous award that I've ever heard was a 9-10 year old girl to be recognized for being the "class clown" I grind my teeth in disbelieve and felt actually sorry for her and angry at the teacher. I really felt like smacking and kicking the teacher and principal at the same time The most ridiculous award that I’ve ever heard was a 9-10 year old girl to be recognized for being the “class clown” I grind my teeth in disbelieve and felt actually sorry for her and angry at the teacher. I really felt like smacking and kicking the teacher and principal at the same time

]]> By: surprised by the comments http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11325 surprised by the comments Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:40:52 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11325 OvenBaked - this is now an older post so you'll probably never see it, unless you're looking to a response, but I don't understand your argument. I think we're talking apples and oranges. My point is that it's in anyone's (from kindergarten to grad school) best interest academically to be present, both mentally and physically, as much as possible. It simply makes learning easier. I didn't mean to send you off-track with my "parent not being able to help" example. I'm all about working smarter, not harder. I don't want your germs though, so stay home if you're sick! OvenBaked – this is now an older post so you’ll probably never see it, unless you’re looking to a response, but I don’t understand your argument. I think we’re talking apples and oranges. My point is that it’s in anyone’s (from kindergarten to grad school) best interest academically to be present, both mentally and physically, as much as possible. It simply makes learning easier. I didn’t mean to send you off-track with my “parent not being able to help” example. I’m all about working smarter, not harder.

I don’t want your germs though, so stay home if you’re sick!

]]> By: OvenBaked http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11231 OvenBaked Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:05:40 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11231 There are items on CRCT, SAT, ACT, and other tests that are not covered in classrooms yet the expactation is that children know them. How do you account for that "surprised by the comments?" Parents that can't help?? These parents need to learn how to help. Once again, I am not going to speak towards limitations. Parents have to find a way. It is their duty to their child. There are items on CRCT, SAT, ACT, and other tests that are not covered in classrooms yet the expactation is that children know them. How do you account for that “surprised by the comments?” Parents that can’t help?? These parents need to learn how to help. Once again, I am not going to speak towards limitations. Parents have to find a way. It is their duty to their child.

]]> By: surprised by the comments http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11201 surprised by the comments Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:43:42 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11201 Oven Baked - like it or not, a kid is going to miss stuff if they are not in school - is it insurmountable? Of course not - but what about the kid whose parents can't help? Even if a teacher sits with a child to give them some help after an absence, they won't cover everything in as much detail or in exactly the same way. Haven't you ever missed something on a test that was "covered while you were out?" I have, and I was a pretty conscientious student with decent (although not perfect) attendance. Of course, I also strongly believe that a sick kid in class isn't learning much anyway - it's hard to concentrate when your head hurts and your nose is full of snot. Oven Baked – like it or not, a kid is going to miss stuff if they are not in school – is it insurmountable? Of course not – but what about the kid whose parents can’t help? Even if a teacher sits with a child to give them some help after an absence, they won’t cover everything in as much detail or in exactly the same way. Haven’t you ever missed something on a test that was “covered while you were out?” I have, and I was a pretty conscientious student with decent (although not perfect) attendance.

Of course, I also strongly believe that a sick kid in class isn’t learning much anyway – it’s hard to concentrate when your head hurts and your nose is full of snot.

]]> By: OvenBaked http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11198 OvenBaked Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:21:35 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11198 Hard to learn if you are not there? It is the responsibility of the child's adult to make sure that their children are learning whether present or abscent. If individuals are missing school and work just because, this is an entirely different issue. Then there are those who believe that their profession comes before family. Remember, the business owners are leveraging your time in order to make them money so that they may spend as much time with their families as they like. Hard to learn if you are not there? It is the responsibility of the child’s adult to make sure that their children are learning whether present or abscent. If individuals are missing school and work just because, this is an entirely different issue. Then there are those who believe that their profession comes before family. Remember, the business owners are leveraging your time in order to make them money so that they may spend as much time with their families as they like.

]]> By: surprised by the comments http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11176 surprised by the comments Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:00:14 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11176 I'm surprised at the vitriol directed towards a perfect attendance award! I see nothing wrong with rewarding perfection - when did we get so hung up on this stuff? Let me say that I do agree sick children shouldn't be sent to school for the sake of this award. However, if you have a healthy motivated child with a good immune system, well, then, more power to him or her! @Vince - attendance should never have been used a second indicator for NCLB - nothing like being judged by a metric that schools don't control. @Reality2 - "I’m not in favor of rewarding people for doing what they are supposed to do." Except most people DON'T do it - that's what makes it special and worthy of attention. I have worked at several jobs that rewarded employees on perfect attendance, too, so it's not just a "school thing." @Reality Mom - "Take some ADVIL, cold medicine and your box of tissue to work." And stay far AWAY from ME - I don't want whatever you have! Nothing like promoting reduced productivity and increased diseased-spreading from an ill workforce. You go, girl! @OvenBaked - while perfect attendance doesn't ENSURE learning, it certainly doesn't hurt, particularly when you're healthy. One of the main tips given by the old "Where There's a Will, There's an A" tapes is to simply be present. It's hard to learn if you're not there. I agree 100% with your statement "It is very selfish to come to work or school contagious and spread your illness around." One's man's "sniffles" becomes another man's sinus infection, doctor's visit, and prescription co-pay. I’m surprised at the vitriol directed towards a perfect attendance award! I see nothing wrong with rewarding perfection – when did we get so hung up on this stuff? Let me say that I do agree sick children shouldn’t be sent to school for the sake of this award. However, if you have a healthy motivated child with a good immune system, well, then, more power to him or her!

@Vince – attendance should never have been used a second indicator for NCLB – nothing like being judged by a metric that schools don’t control.

@Reality2 – “I’m not in favor of rewarding people for doing what they are supposed to do.” Except most people DON’T do it – that’s what makes it special and worthy of attention. I have worked at several jobs that rewarded employees on perfect attendance, too, so it’s not just a “school thing.”

@Reality Mom – “Take some ADVIL, cold medicine and your box of tissue to work.” And stay far AWAY from ME – I don’t want whatever you have! Nothing like promoting reduced productivity and increased diseased-spreading from an ill workforce. You go, girl!

@OvenBaked – while perfect attendance doesn’t ENSURE learning, it certainly doesn’t hurt, particularly when you’re healthy. One of the main tips given by the old “Where There’s a Will, There’s an A” tapes is to simply be present. It’s hard to learn if you’re not there. I agree 100% with your statement “It is very selfish to come to work or school contagious and spread your illness around.” One’s man’s “sniffles” becomes another man’s sinus infection, doctor’s visit, and prescription co-pay.

]]> By: Momof2 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11174 Momof2 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:50:58 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11174 Hembree Springs Elementary doesn't give out awards for perfect attendance, so why should the kids even bother. I remember when I was in school we got sorts of little rewards and incentives. It was nice. Hembree Springs Elementary doesn’t give out awards for perfect attendance, so why should the kids even bother. I remember when I was in school we got sorts of little rewards and incentives. It was nice.

]]> By: OvenBaked http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11162 OvenBaked Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:22:31 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11162 "Many kids are sent to school when they are sick simply because the parents can’t get off of work to keep them at home." Essentially, statements like this make children victims. It is the parents responsibility to take care of their children. This speaks toward the problem we are facing in our society where having children is just a thing to do or an accident and is not planned. The children suffer when parents are not able to take care of them. Children get sick and are prone to being sick. The statement "Many kids are sent to school when they are sick simply because the parents can’t get off of work to keep them at home" illustrates that a child being sick thus becomes inconvenient for their parents right. “Many kids are sent to school when they are sick simply because the parents can’t get off of work to keep them at home.” Essentially, statements like this make children victims. It is the parents responsibility to take care of their children. This speaks toward the problem we are facing in our society where having children is just a thing to do or an accident and is not planned. The children suffer when parents are not able to take care of them. Children get sick and are prone to being sick. The statement “Many kids are sent to school when they are sick simply because the parents can’t get off of work to keep them at home” illustrates that a child being sick thus becomes inconvenient for their parents right.

]]> By: OvenBaked http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11159 OvenBaked Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:02:02 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11159 Parents with 5 and 6 children and can not take off from work because their children are ill need to really reevaluate their position. Why have that many children if you can not take of them? Parents with 5 and 6 children and can not take off from work because their children are ill need to really reevaluate their position. Why have that many children if you can not take of them?

]]> By: OvenBaked http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/13/sick-or-tired-when-ill-kids-come-to-school-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-11158 OvenBaked Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:59:19 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1546#comment-11158 I never said that children should stay at home because of sniffles. If a person is sick with a fever with a viral or bacterial infection that is contageous, should stay home. I am not going to perpetuate the fear aspect of losing a job. If an employer is willing to spend extra money recruiting, hiring, and training someone because you take off because you are sick, then something is wrong with that employer and does not understand the cost of that decision. Those people that you are referring to as "can not take off because they are sick" ( I stand by what I said earlier) still need to find another profession. I refuse to speak towards limitations. I never said that children should stay at home because of sniffles. If a person is sick with a fever with a viral or bacterial infection that is contageous, should stay home. I am not going to perpetuate the fear aspect of losing a job. If an employer is willing to spend extra money recruiting, hiring, and training someone because you take off because you are sick, then something is wrong with that employer and does not understand the cost of that decision. Those people that you are referring to as “can not take off because they are sick” ( I stand by what I said earlier) still need to find another profession. I refuse to speak towards limitations.

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