Comments on: The slap heard around the newsroom and now the world http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/ Your source to discuss and learn about education in Atlanta, Georgia and the nation Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:07:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kevin http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-12028 Kevin Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:07:32 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-12028 I spank both of my boys, and they don't like my paddle or my slipper too much! However, if this guy had hit either of my boys (9 and 12), let alone a little child, I would have beat HIM to a pulp! What kind of MORON does that to a stranger's child? The guy should be in JAIL. What a pathetic IDIOT. I spank both of my boys, and they don’t like my paddle or my slipper too much! However, if this guy had hit either of my boys (9 and 12), let alone a little child, I would have beat HIM to a pulp! What kind of MORON does that to a stranger’s child? The guy should be in JAIL. What a pathetic IDIOT.

]]> By: Rob http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-11816 Rob Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:34:31 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-11816 Hey aren't you innocent till proven guilty. I say make the child testify. Put the mother on the stand and make her hold the child in her arms while being cross examined. When the child start screaming the judge will declare him not guilty, and have the mother sent to a parenting class. =) Hey aren’t you innocent till proven guilty. I say make the child testify. Put the mother on the stand and make her hold the child in her arms while being cross examined. When the child start screaming the judge will declare him not guilty, and have the mother sent to a parenting class.

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]]> By: Heather Lamb (Rome, GA) http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-11729 Heather Lamb (Rome, GA) Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:07:03 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-11729 Holy Crud. I don't think i understand this Okay of course there have been many children over the years that have irritated me. but to have laid his hands on a 2 yr old is assualt period and to use this in conjunction with corporal punishment in schools is not only retarded but stupid. you are comparing apples to oranges. With a 2 yr old you pop hands with a 5 yr old you pop bottoms with 7 or 8 and above you bust butts. Corporal punishment worked on me, it was not so much pain as the embarrassment involved. The last time my son who is ten threw a temper tantrum he was sent to his room to calm down. sometimes ignoring a child will calm them down. but a 2 yr old c'mon people hitting a 2 yr old will just make them cry more. and to say that i was never like that as a child or my child knew better at that age is just asanine. no situation is exactly the same. When i need Groceries i go get them. Period child or no child, As a single parent i work and go to school therefore affording a babbysitter to go shopping is not happening anytime soon. Admittadly i try not to go out with my child to restaruant or movie type situations, but if you are at walmart buying clothing for a 2 yr old you need that 2 yr old there for fitting. as anyone with a child knows there size changes week to week. but even if that were not necessary we are speaking of abuse if i slapped my 2 yr old i should be in jail. But i freely admit when my 2 yr old bit i bit back. I like to know which states allow corporal punishment because i want to move there so my kid doesn't have to worry about gun toting morons in his school because back when i was in school they busted your but and guess what none of the kids brought guns to school. Not to mention that my niece (who is extremely well behaved and has a mother who doesn't agree with spankings) told me after i punished my son she was going to call DFACS (department of family and child services) on me. My response was to get the phone book and highlight the number for her. Then i informed her mother of what she said and her mother jumped down her thoat. When that did not faze her my father her grandfather busted her @**. She then apologized to me and has never since then disrespected an adult like she did me. The reason she was punished was disrespect not who she was going to call. Now this incident happened a couple of years ago and her mother is a little smarter now. it starts verbal and progresses to physical. but the reason her grandfather busted her but and i did not is that she is not my child and i did not have verbal or written permission to deal with her my father did. So lets be realistic Take three seperate 2 yr olds out all clean, fed, just up from a nap and of the three one is going throw a tantrum no matter how "well" brought they are. another thing if people with children who can't afford babysitters can't shop in Walmart. Walmart would lose billions, I agree you shouldn't let you kids run wild. but how about this all you people who applaud this man or even understand this man come on down to my walmart (makes sure you leave your kids at home) and i'll be happy to smack the snot out of you for whining about my kid. 411 walmart in rome, GA By the way i was not raised in the south and My father was military so corporal punishment for me is probably alot more meaningful, and i recieve complements from complete strangers on how well behaved my child is. he opens and holds doors for people, he says yes sir, no sir, yes ma'am, no ma'am, please, and thank you and is very polite. my child is also high end ADHD, Bi-Polar, low end Autistic, and has Aspergers, and his temper tentrums are a sight to behold, whether i leave with him or not everyone knows about it. But tell you this you lay a hand on him you won't make it to jail. My child is the reason i exist and when you start pucking with that MY REASON IS GONE!!!! i will go to prison for my son.They will drag me away from the bloody corpse. i can't be more clear than that. Otherwise have a nice day! Holy Crud. I don’t think i understand this

Okay of course there have been many children over the years that have irritated me. but to have laid his hands on a 2 yr old is assualt period and to use this in conjunction with corporal punishment in schools is not only retarded but stupid. you are comparing apples to oranges. With a 2 yr old you pop hands with a 5 yr old you pop bottoms with 7 or 8 and above you bust butts. Corporal punishment worked on me, it was not so much pain as the embarrassment involved. The last time my son who is ten threw a temper tantrum he was sent to his room to calm down. sometimes ignoring a child will calm them down. but a 2 yr old c’mon people hitting a 2 yr old will just make them cry more. and to say that i was never like that as a child or my child knew better at that age is just asanine. no situation is exactly the same. When i need Groceries i go get them. Period child or no child, As a single parent i work and go to school therefore affording a babbysitter to go shopping is not happening anytime soon. Admittadly i try not to go out with my child to restaruant or movie type situations, but if you are at walmart buying clothing for a 2 yr old you need that 2 yr old there for fitting. as anyone with a child knows there size changes week to week. but even if that were not necessary we are speaking of abuse if i slapped my 2 yr old i should be in jail. But i freely admit when my 2 yr old bit i bit back.

I like to know which states allow corporal punishment because i want to move there so my kid doesn’t have to worry about gun toting morons in his school because back when i was in school they busted your but and guess what none of the kids brought guns to school.

Not to mention that my niece (who is extremely well behaved and has a mother who doesn’t agree with spankings) told me after i punished my son she was going to call DFACS (department of family and child services) on me. My response was to get the phone book and highlight the number for her. Then i informed her mother of what she said and her mother jumped down her thoat. When that did not faze her my father her grandfather busted her @**. She then apologized to me and has never since then disrespected an adult like she did me. The reason she was punished was disrespect not who she was going to call. Now this incident happened a couple of years ago and her mother is a little smarter now. it starts verbal and progresses to physical. but the reason her grandfather busted her but and i did not is that she is not my child and i did not have verbal or written permission to deal with her my father did.
So lets be realistic Take three seperate 2 yr olds out all clean, fed, just up from a nap and of the three one is going throw a tantrum no matter how “well” brought they are. another thing if people with children who can’t afford babysitters can’t shop in Walmart. Walmart would lose billions,

I agree you shouldn’t let you kids run wild. but how about this all you people who applaud this man or even understand this man come on down to my walmart (makes sure you leave your kids at home) and i’ll be happy to smack the snot out of you for whining about my kid.

411 walmart in rome, GA

By the way i was not raised in the south and My father was military so corporal punishment for me is probably alot more meaningful, and i recieve complements from complete strangers on how well behaved my child is. he opens and holds doors for people, he says yes sir, no sir, yes ma’am, no ma’am, please, and thank you and is very polite. my child is also high end ADHD, Bi-Polar, low end Autistic, and has Aspergers, and his temper tentrums are a sight to behold, whether i leave with him or not everyone knows about it.

But tell you this you lay a hand on him you won’t make it to jail. My child is the reason i exist and when you start pucking with that MY REASON IS GONE!!!! i will go to prison for my son.They will drag me away from the bloody corpse. i can’t be more clear than that.

Otherwise have a nice day!

]]> By: brunchie http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-11645 brunchie Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:38:15 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-11645 Thank God, my child is past the meltdown stage. Now that she's older, I cannot stand to hear other people's kids crying and screaming in the store. One time I was in the store, and a kid said, Mama, Mama, Mama, Mama, ... at least 30 times. I was thinking, where is this child's mama and why won't she just answer the darn kid? Thank God, my child is past the meltdown stage. Now that she’s older, I cannot stand to hear other people’s kids crying and screaming in the store. One time I was in the store, and a kid said, Mama, Mama, Mama, Mama, … at least 30 times. I was thinking, where is this child’s mama and why won’t she just answer the darn kid?

]]> By: vagirl http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-10825 vagirl Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:52:04 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-10825 I never saw a child crying or creating any kind of fuss in a store when I was growing up. I didn't even start seeing this behavior until the early 1990's. Why is it that every time I go to a store now there is a half dozen screaming and crying brats whose parents obviously do not care enough to discipline them? Have any of you parents every heard of a babysitter? It's so simple... pay a responsible teenager or adult a few bucks so you can run errands alone once a week. Not only will you be able to get your errands done much quicker think of all the money you would save by not buying crap to try to pacify your child during a meltdown. With this savings you could easily hire a babysitter. Back on the topic of this post I do believe that the man who slapped the child did a terrible thing and must be held accountable although I do understand his frustration. On more than one occasion if I have been in store and the shrieking was too loud to take then I leave and go somewhere else. As far as corporal punishment I used it on my child and he thanks me often for disciplining him so rigorously. He is well behaved, never missed one class in high school or college and graduated with honors at the top of his class in UCR in June. He never misbehaved in public or at home. I simply would not tolerate it. My son suffered brain damage during his birth and is partially paralyzed. I never let that be an excuse for bad behavior or for not excelling at every activity in school and at home. I never saw a child crying or creating any kind of fuss in a store when I was growing up. I didn’t even start seeing this behavior until the early 1990’s. Why is it that every time I go to a store now there is a half dozen screaming and crying brats whose parents obviously do not care enough to discipline them? Have any of you parents every heard of a babysitter? It’s so simple… pay a responsible teenager or adult a few bucks so you can run errands alone once a week. Not only will you be able to get your errands done much quicker think of all the money you would save by not buying crap to try to pacify your child during a meltdown. With this savings you could easily hire a babysitter. Back on the topic of this post I do believe that the man who slapped the child did a terrible thing and must be held accountable although I do understand his frustration. On more than one occasion if I have been in store and the shrieking was too loud to take then I leave and go somewhere else. As far as corporal punishment I used it on my child and he thanks me often for disciplining him so rigorously. He is well behaved, never missed one class in high school or college and graduated with honors at the top of his class in UCR in June. He never misbehaved in public or at home. I simply would not tolerate it. My son suffered brain damage during his birth and is partially paralyzed. I never let that be an excuse for bad behavior or for not excelling at every activity in school and at home.

]]> By: georgia parent http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-10722 georgia parent Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:24:04 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-10722 annie, annie, annie... sorry dear you're wrong on your facts with special needs. Autism now is at 1 in 100 children. The average american has NO CLUE what autism is and is not. In fact, most of the kids appear very normal, but unfortunately they fall outside the realm of neurotypical. Get your facts straight and enlighten yourself. In some communities the surge of autism is actually 1 in 60 children. So the general public, such as yourself, needs to understand ANY child could have a disability or a neurological impairment, because it is not readily apparent. Stop harshly judging others, that's my problem with some of these comments. Nobody knows what that one child has or doesn't have, annie, annie, annie… sorry dear you’re wrong on your facts with special needs. Autism now is at 1 in 100 children. The average american has NO CLUE what autism is and is not. In fact, most of the kids appear very normal, but unfortunately they fall outside the realm of neurotypical. Get your facts straight and enlighten yourself. In some communities the surge of autism is actually 1 in 60 children. So the general public, such as yourself, needs to understand ANY child could have a disability or a neurological impairment, because it is not readily apparent. Stop harshly judging others, that’s my problem with some of these comments. Nobody knows what that one child has or doesn’t have,

]]> By: annie http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-10702 annie Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:00:50 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-10702 Are you kidding?? Whoever wrote the cr*p below has got to be kidding. My mother knew 2 year olds could "melt down" - and it was her inconvenience to remove us from the store, though I'll tell you, my older siblings remember, and I remember for my younger ones, all of us paying for it when we got home. You just didn't have a "meltdown" TWICE (in public). That's today's priss-a$$ society coddling their "WE WIN TROPHIES BECAUSE WE JUST SHOWED UP" kids. If you have a special needs child, that is truly different, but I believe the bulk of people's experiences are not based primarily on experiences in social settings with special needs children. Two-year olds aren't stupid, people just treat them that way. The man is obviously a slice short in his sandwich, but come on. I have a lot less understanding for parents that just let their kids wail than I do for those parents that can be seen interacting with the wailing child to determine what is happening. If this woman was already aware that her child had (most obviously) annoyed someone, perhaps she should have inconvenienced herself to take the kid out of the store, or to the restroom, or briefly to the lobby. Inconvenient? Old-fashioned? God forbid we respect other people in this society. Yes, life happens, and you should expect to be able to live it with respect and a respectable noise lever wherever you go, short of a bar or sports event or some such thing. Just because it is Walmart doesn't mean it has to be hell. I think something that parents are missing is the fact that they are taking this very personally - as if the world is just complaining about their family. It's not the case, but once you've experienced 5-15 screaming, ignorant, sticky, obnoxious children in one grocery trip (Wegman's to Walmart, doesn't matter), your overall perception takes a serious downturn. I just think if someone threatened my daughter due to noise, I would have moved HER to a different section, or the lobby, or asked the customer service center to please keep my cart while I calmed her in the car. She was threatened, and if that parent did not take that threat seriously, she's got her head up her ass in this day and age. The guy is obviously a bit off his game, but he did give her notice (however wrong the whole thing is). But stop with the "this is how 2 year olds are". It's not true. >>>I can’t believe some of these comments here! Taking an innocent child who was the victim and turning that child and that mother into the REASON for the assault! Unbelievable! Even the most well-behaved children (ESPECIALLY when they’re toddlers) have occasional meltdowns. You people who are judging…you have no idea why the child was crying. You have no idea for how long the child had been crying. I have hauled my own then-2-year-old out of a store or two in my time. But sometimes, you can’t. You can’t come at any other time, and you can’t leave right then. Life happens and if you are in a public place like Wal-Mart, you can’t expect serene peace and quiet at all times, for heavens sakes! It’s Wal-Mart! And you have the ability and, by all means exercise it, to LEAVE that section. All of you making these ridiculous comments likely have never had to shop with a toddler. Not everyone HAS someone to ‘leave the kid with’. Kids are people, too. And they have rights. If this man had slapped an adult, there would be no question what he had done was wrong. (whether or not the adult was loud, obnoxious, or crying). You can’t blame all society’s ills on some people who allow their children to be rowdy. This was a TWO year old! Wake up people. This is how 2 year olds ARE. One minute they’re fine. The next minute, they’re not. The fault was the man’s, not the mom…most definitely not the baby’s.<<< Are you kidding?? Whoever wrote the cr*p below has got to be kidding. My mother knew 2 year olds could “melt down” – and it was her inconvenience to remove us from the store, though I’ll tell you, my older siblings remember, and I remember for my younger ones, all of us paying for it when we got home. You just didn’t have a “meltdown” TWICE (in public). That’s today’s priss-a$$ society coddling their “WE WIN TROPHIES BECAUSE WE JUST SHOWED UP” kids.

If you have a special needs child, that is truly different, but I believe the bulk of people’s experiences are not based primarily on experiences in social settings with special needs children.

Two-year olds aren’t stupid, people just treat them that way.

The man is obviously a slice short in his sandwich, but come on. I have a lot less understanding for parents that just let their kids wail than I do for those parents that can be seen interacting with the wailing child to determine what is happening. If this woman was already aware that her child had (most obviously) annoyed someone, perhaps she should have inconvenienced herself to take the kid out of the store, or to the restroom, or briefly to the lobby. Inconvenient? Old-fashioned? God forbid we respect other people in this society.

Yes, life happens, and you should expect to be able to live it with respect and a respectable noise lever wherever you go, short of a bar or sports event or some such thing. Just because it is Walmart doesn’t mean it has to be hell.

I think something that parents are missing is the fact that they are taking this very personally – as if the world is just complaining about their family. It’s not the case, but once you’ve experienced 5-15 screaming, ignorant, sticky, obnoxious children in one grocery trip (Wegman’s to Walmart, doesn’t matter), your overall perception takes a serious downturn.

I just think if someone threatened my daughter due to noise, I would have moved HER to a different section, or the lobby, or asked the customer service center to please keep my cart while I calmed her in the car. She was threatened, and if that parent did not take that threat seriously, she’s got her head up her ass in this day and age. The guy is obviously a bit off his game, but he did give her notice (however wrong the whole thing is).

But stop with the “this is how 2 year olds are”. It’s not true.

>>>I can’t believe some of these comments here! Taking an innocent child who was the victim and turning that child and that mother into the REASON for the assault! Unbelievable! Even the most well-behaved children (ESPECIALLY when they’re toddlers) have occasional meltdowns. You people who are judging…you have no idea why the child was crying. You have no idea for how long the child had been crying. I have hauled my own then-2-year-old out of a store or two in my time. But sometimes, you can’t. You can’t come at any other time, and you can’t leave right then. Life happens and if you are in a public place like Wal-Mart, you can’t expect serene peace and quiet at all times, for heavens sakes! It’s Wal-Mart! And you have the ability and, by all means exercise it, to LEAVE that section. All of you making these ridiculous comments likely have never had to shop with a toddler. Not everyone HAS someone to ‘leave the kid with’. Kids are people, too. And they have rights. If this man had slapped an adult, there would be no question what he had done was wrong. (whether or not the adult was loud, obnoxious, or crying). You can’t blame all society’s ills on some people who allow their children to be rowdy. This was a TWO year old! Wake up people. This is how 2 year olds ARE. One minute they’re fine. The next minute, they’re not. The fault was the man’s, not the mom…most definitely not the baby’s.<<<

]]> By: Barrett http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-10677 Barrett Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:55:43 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-10677 I would have slapped the mother and if he had done that, I would personally and happily have contributed to his legal defense fund. Every parent who ignors their screaming, running, crying kids in public places should have someone slap them. Come on, parents. Your out of control children are not cute. I would have slapped the mother and if he had done that, I would personally and happily have contributed to his legal defense fund. Every parent who ignors their screaming, running, crying kids in public places should have someone slap them. Come on, parents. Your out of control children are not cute.

]]> By: Travis http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-10669 Travis Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:03:14 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-10669 Glad I could be a part of your kingdom of fear...meh on the rest of it. I don't care what you think I mean about anything I say. Fortunately for me, my self esteem isn't hinged on what people say about me on the internet. The fact is people like me never say anything to you or your filthy brood but, we do exist. I am not a random anomaly. We are working to legislate your exclusion from certain private social situations so that we may enjoy a swimming pool or even a meal every now and then without having to endure what to you is just normal and to us a major annoyance. A lot of children out there are fine and that is to say that their parents have done a good job. A lot of children out there are running their parents lives. This is wrong. We will all pay for the ugly sense of entitlement bestowed to these children... Glad I could be a part of your kingdom of fear…meh on the rest of it. I don’t care what you think I mean about anything I say. Fortunately for me, my self esteem isn’t hinged on what people say about me on the internet.

The fact is people like me never say anything to you or your filthy brood but, we do exist. I am not a random anomaly. We are working to legislate your exclusion from certain private social situations so that we may enjoy a swimming pool or even a meal every now and then without having to endure what to you is just normal and to us a major annoyance.

A lot of children out there are fine and that is to say that their parents have done a good job. A lot of children out there are running their parents lives. This is wrong. We will all pay for the ugly sense of entitlement bestowed to these children…

]]> By: Kathy http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/09/02/the-slap-heard-around-the-newsroom-and-beyond/comment-page-22/#comment-10647 Kathy Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:43:48 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/?p=1401#comment-10647 I don't believe anyone is that ignorant to believe that you are not trying to cover your tracks Mr. Travis. Most know the kids who wear helmets, and because you did not reference riding a bike leaves only the kids who wear helmets to protect their heads because of a cognitive or medical disorder. To take their protection, the helmet, from them as you suggested would likely result in them hitting their head, which may actually kill some of these kids or just do more damage to their brain. That is the insensitivity you portray and you have that right. I am serious about hearing from people like you because society needs to start being more alert about their surroundings. Too many children in the US go missing and most times it's not a happy ending. You stated that you chose not to have the kid....Good for you. You're right I am not always good with sarcasm, but I think I have a wily sense of humor! I don’t believe anyone is that ignorant to believe that you are not trying to cover your tracks Mr. Travis. Most know the kids who wear helmets, and because you did not reference riding a bike leaves only the kids who wear helmets to protect their heads because of a cognitive or medical disorder. To take their protection, the helmet, from them as you suggested would likely result in them hitting their head, which may actually kill some of these kids or just do more damage to their brain. That is the insensitivity you portray and you have that right. I am serious about hearing from people like you because society needs to start being more alert about their surroundings. Too many children in the US go missing and most times it’s not a happy ending. You stated that you chose not to have the kid….Good for you. You’re right I am not always good with sarcasm, but I think I have a wily sense of humor!

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