Who did Perdue call out on the CRCT cheating scandal?

Gov. Sonny Perdue accused Atlanta schools superintendent Beverly Hall of ignoring evidence that one of the district’s elementary schools cheated on last summer’s CRCT retest.

Perdue made his comments after the state Board of Education threw out fifth-grade math retest scores from four elementary school accused of cheating.

The schools are: Atlanta’s Deerwood Academy, DeKalb County’s Atherton Elementary, Fulton County’s Parklane Elementary and Glynn County’s Burroughs-Molette Elementary.

The state education board learned about the cheating from the Governor’s Office of Student Achievement. The office conducted an investigation after the schools posted unusually large gains on the retests.

Since the report’s release last month, the principal of Atherton resigned and an assistant principal was reassigned. Both were arrested and face felony charges.

Glynn County has asked the state education ethics commission to consider disciplining four individuals. Investigations are going on in Fulton County as well.

But Atlanta school leaders are the only ones refusing to admit that the results are tainted, Kathleen Mathers, executive director of the Governor’s Office of Student Achievement, said Wednesday.

Perdue commended school officials in DeKalb and Glynn for their “strong reactions” and showing “they will not condone this behavior.”

He didn’t have nice things to say about Atlanta:

“However, it is outrageous that Atlanta Public Schools’ Superintendent Dr. Beverly Hall has simply ignored all of the evidence that Superintendent Cox, the State Board, the other systems, and I found so compelling. While Superintendent Hall attributes the gains to a ‘rigorous program’, there were flat gains from students of the 4 other schools that attended the same summer school as the students who had their tests altered.”

What do you think of Perdue’s comments?

68 comments Add your comment

Tony

July 10th, 2009
12:55 pm

Political posturing and grandstanding. Nothing more.

If Mr. Perdue was serious about improving education in the state of Georgia, you would see much more action and leadership on his part with regard to improving school funding needs.

Golfball

July 10th, 2009
12:56 pm

This is a blog about education, Laura. Why not get your headline grammatically correct at least. That should be “Whom” instead of “Who” because it functions as a direct object, not as the subject. Also, as to content, Perdue is wrong. Why compliment DeKalb officials for their “strong reactions” when Superintendent Crawford Lewis sent out a mass e-mail to all DeKalb employees urging them to write letters of support to the two Atherton administrator-cheaters and lamenting the AJC’s coverage of their cheating.

I can’t wait for Purdue to exit the stage. If only Crawford were going soon, too!

Ernest

July 10th, 2009
12:56 pm

This can get interesing. There are several frequent bloggers that have questioned several reports from APS, such as the discipline report on one HS a few years ago. Could this cause the governor and/or Kathy Cox to request a forensic audit of APS reports?

Where is the story?

July 10th, 2009
1:01 pm

Why is this story about Perdue’s comments only found on this blog, and not in any other part of the paper? Is the AJC really trying to bring this issue to light, or doing the bare minimum to say they mentioned the story, so that they can then bury it, like they’ve done with other stories?

Frustrated

July 10th, 2009
1:13 pm

Funny that Perdue would commend DeKalb School officials for their “strong reaction” considering that Crawford Lewis reacted to the DA’s probe by sending out an email encouraging all DeKalb School System employees to support Berry and Alexander. According to Lewis, the accused cheaters are “family” and DCSS employees should get in touch with them and let them know that “we still care about them.” Lewis had a chance to show that he didn’t condone this behavior when the AJC first reported the suspect scores. Instead, a weak internal investigation ignored the evidence and Lewis proclaimed that the unbelievable improvements were the result of hard work and good teaching.

Someone is talking

July 10th, 2009
1:22 pm

Tony,

I think we all agree the governor could to better. But what would you rather have, political posturing, or the political silence that’s coming from every other state official?

Professional organizations silent

July 10th, 2009
2:15 pm

Perdue is right. This is simply outrageous to deny the cheating in this case. Where are the “professional organizations.” Why are they condoning this with their silence? Have any of them addressed this?

Dr. John Trotter

July 10th, 2009
2:24 pm

Dear Governor: At least this is a start. There is, in my lowly opinion, massive systematic cheating taking place in the Atlanta Public Schools and in the DeKalb County School System. Both systems want teachers to essentially give the students grades for the semesters, and if the teachers, because of conscience, refuse to just give the students these grades, the teachers are basically “corporately executed” by using the evaluative system in a very manipulative, retributive, and punitive manner. The principals even taunt the teachers with this “weapon” that they have. Today, it is so easy to engage in “corporate execution” because any dumbass administrator (and believe me, Gov., there are many of them out there) can bubble in a form, but if they had to write a cogent paragraph stating the real reasons why they are giving a teacher a bad evaluation, so many of these hellion and heartless administrators would flunk a freshman essay assignment. The urban systems are broken. Plain and simple. Perhaps this is not politically correct to say this, but no one has ever accused me, Norreese Haynes, or anyone else on the MACE Staff with being politically correct. We tend to pride ourselves in politically incorrectly telling the truth. This is the truth…the urban systems are Georgia are completely broken mainly because the thugs are running the systems — the thug administrators and the thug students. It is as if the is a detente between the thug administrators and the thug students. A social contract, if you will. The thug students to the thug administrators: If you will let us do what we want and just give us the grades that we want and allow us to graduate, then we will not sic our irate and irresponsible parents on you, and you will keep your high-paying job and your luxury cars and plush house. We [students and administrators alike] can just blame the teachers. If a teacher does not go along with the game plan (remember LBJ’s “go along to get along”}, then together we can just get rid of the teachers. Standard essentially do not exist anymore.

I remember when one teacher conscientiously reported (as was her duty) another teacher for cheating on the standardized test. This happended, so I was told by a teacher at this school, at an elementary school in Atlanta. The teacher who did the reporting was “corporately executed” (contract non-renewed), and the teacher who was accused of cheating was made (no doubt by the principal, not by fellow teachers) “Teacher of the Year.” This is how Atlanta works, Gov. So, don’t be too dismayed that Beverly Hall has not investigated the situation at Deerwood Academy. There is a cheating culture in the Atlanta Public Schools as well as in the DeKalb School System, in my opinion, and I have seen a lot in my days.

Governor, I have always thought of you as an independent, competent, and honest man. If you really want to expose more on these questionable and near-impossible gains (considering the Law of the Large Numbers), how about checking into the scores (100% on the four reading and math tests) at Atlanta’s Capitol View and West Manor Elementary Schhols? Atlanta’s school culture is a cesspool, despite all the accolades that the media and the local Chamber of Commerce apparently seek to heap upon Hall. I still say that the three biggest educational hypocrites in Georgia are Beverly Hall, Crawford Lewis, and Mark Elgart. (c) MACE, 2009.

Professional organizations silent

July 10th, 2009
2:29 pm

Well I guess I was wrong. It seems like one organization has the integrity to publicly condemn this, rather than silently condone it.

Dr. John Trotter

July 10th, 2009
2:54 pm

Please forgive the several typos. Desculpe.

jim d

July 10th, 2009
4:51 pm

It still amazes me that not only do we turn a blind eye towards this proven behavior but continue to refuse to recognize the fact that this is happening in every school district in the state, from the smallest to the largest (yes indeed–even in Gwinnett)

Bottom line (IMHO)–when money hinges on schools showing improvement they most certainly will show improvement even if it must be fabricated. Our schools are operated by crooks, theives and greedy businessmen without any regard to the welfare of the children. Until such time as we DEMAND better, we must learn to live with what we got. It is time for taxpayers/voters to step up to the plate and run this scum out of town on a rail.

jim d

July 10th, 2009
4:53 pm

Truly in days gone by this type of con-artist would have been tarred and feathered and excorted to the city limits. No Questions asked!

jim d is right

July 10th, 2009
5:08 pm

You have an “outrageous” statement as Perdue says, which shows a complete lack of integrity and honesty on the issue at hand, but look at the lack of responses. Until, as jim d said, we DEMAND better, what incentive do those who willingly engage in such deception have to change?

jim d is right

July 10th, 2009
5:10 pm

I tried to explain why jim d is right, but another &^%!$ comment was lost.

ShooShee

July 10th, 2009
7:30 pm

This is actually frightening. I tend to agree with Dr. Trotter, we have a big problem with cheating in our urban schools. We also have a problem with intimidating teachers. I know a teacher who worked out of a trailer and had parents come to her trailer for evening conferences threatening that if she failed their child, they would come after her. Pretty unsettling for a young woman out in a trailer in the pasture. Private or homeschooling is the only way to avoid the craziness.

Dr. John Trotter

July 10th, 2009
7:48 pm

I agree with jim d. The politicians will only tinker with the problem at best. It is a hot tamale. Don’t expect Mark Elgart and SACS to do anything either. Elgart is obviously scared of the urban areas. He ventured into Clayton County apparently to help Dan Colwell and their girl Ericka Davis. Ericka Davis was the worst thing that ever happened to the Clayton County Schools, and Mark Elgart essentially just ignored all of the evidence that was provided to his hypocritical private organization about Ericka Davis engaging in egregious micromanaging of the school system. Elgart knows that there is plenty of evidence that massive cheating is taking place in Atlanta and DeKalb but he sits mute atop Mt. Alpharetta, scared to descend upon Atlanta and DeKalb. Don’t you know that Beverly Hall and Crawford Lewis know this. This is why they are so smug in their positions despite the evidence of systematic cheating taking place in their systems. They smirk with contempt. Mark Elgart is just as hypocritical as Beverly Hall and Crawford Lewis. Only State action will make a dent in this sordid mess in these two school systems. They ignore the State statutes on grievances and due process. They are a major blight to the educational landscape in Georgia. (c) MACE, July 10, 2009.

Deeply Concerned

July 10th, 2009
8:07 pm

I hate to reiterate what has been said on another post in another manner, however the fact of the matter is a student who passes the CRCT may not have mastered the skills needed to perform well in advancing grades. The passing requirement on this “high stakes test” is roughly 48%. Wow, such mastery!! Even if a student passes the test, there is still a chance that they will not be successful in the coming years. That is the nature of this test in which everyone has so much faith.

As for the “statistics” involved. It has always been amusing to me that people do not realize statistics are easily manipulated to show what a person wants to see. Why do you think one year statistics show that milk does a body good, but the next year milk doesn’t have the same effect. Milk didn’t change. But I digress, it is sad to think that somewhere in some school there aren’t some teachers that can move their class to 100% passing rate on a test that merely requires 48% accuracy. The lack of faith that this is possible is even worse. Does this possibility only exsist in rural schools way out in the middle of nowhere, or the upper crust schools because of their good breeding?

At which point do we put our faith back into our children and off of these tests, statistics, and soap-box pointing which measure nothing but the width of various wallets. Is an accusation enough to permanently tar and feather these people or should there be actual proof? The overwhelming evidence by an outside audit of a company that is paid every time a child has to retest. I think it’s great.

ScienceTeacher671

July 10th, 2009
8:09 pm

Cheating may be rampant in the urban schools, but common sense tells us it is NOT happening “everywhere”, or there would not be schools which don’t make AYP – and there most assuredly ARE schools in that situation.

If “everyone” cheated, we would not have schools in which 100% of the students failed the math or reading portions of the test – but there are such schools, and I only looked at the 8th grade scores.

As I’ve said before, the 8th grade test correlates to a 4th grade level on the ITBS. Perhaps it should be a scandal that there are schools in Georgia in which the majority of the 8th grade students aren’t even working at a 4th grade level?

Deeply Concerned

July 10th, 2009
8:18 pm

Sad fact: There are teachers that could not pass the test. I was reprimanded for turning in a teacher who was cheating on the test. I mean blatantly cheating. But get this, she was giving out wrong answers. She honestly didn’t know the correct answers. She was trying to help the students because she hadn’t covered it in class. Needless to say she was fired and rehired in another district.

These four schools are even on the tip of the iceburg that is the educational disaster.

Resolve

July 10th, 2009
8:52 pm

I think Perdue’s comments were political grandstanding and further more irresponsible. Beverly Hall cooperated with all investigations from the state and because she did not react with the “yessah, mister, whateva yuh say” mentality she is attacked by the Governor. Her opinion differs from the Governor! Good for her.

Has anyone heard of Jaime Escalante? If not, look it up! They thought he was cheating in his URBAN school as well.

This is a shame MACE has to highjack this blog for bad teachers to join its organization! Join at your own risk but ask Clayton county what he did to that school district.

Resolve to ignore Resolve

July 10th, 2009
10:02 pm

Let’s just go ahead and call Resolve out to defend the above post point by point, so that Resolve will resolve to go away.

The majority of Jamie Escalante’s students legitimized their success by succeeding in college as well. The majority of the APS students went on to fail the 6th grade test.

Rebuttal?

There were students from 4 other schools along with the Deerwood students in the same summer school session. The students from the other schools posted modest gains that would be consistent with taking the test honestly. Only the Deerwood students posted gains that were called into question. Same teachers, using the same methods, simultaneously teaching students from 5 different schools. Only students from one school have scores that are called into question.

Rebuttal?

The students Jamie Escalante taught had their scores called into question, based on the answers to a single question. The APS scores had three times the number of erasures on average than is considered normal, with one sheet having twelve times the the normal amount of erasures.

Rebuttal?

No one ever admitted to any guilt in the Escalante case, while multiple officials have already admitted guilt based on the analysis of the test scores in question.

Rebuttal?

To invoke Jamie Escalante’s name into this discussion is an insult to him, his students, and their collective success. Please, provide a rebuttal to the points above; or don’t. Either action will prove your words are indefensible, as your silence will show you are incapable of offering a rebuttal, and an actual rebuttal itself will do nothing but move you to the realm of conspiracy theorists who think Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley are now working at the same Burger King.

Come to think of it, even that would have more credibility than your post.

Deeply Concerned

July 10th, 2009
10:19 pm

Was Deerwood the summer school site that year? I only ask because tests are tranferred directly from the summer school site to the state. They do not pass through the base schools themselves. So, was Deerwood the site that summer or just a school at the site?

Seen it all

July 10th, 2009
10:36 pm

Señor Trotter, that’s “disculpe”, not “desculpe”. Practica su español. :)

Other than that, you words are never more true. I have been involved in education for years and I am familiar with the Atlanta Public School System. There is a lot of “funny business” that goes on there, like many other school systems. The reason I don’t particularly make much reference to the Atlanta system is because other systems do the same or similar things. However, everybody should be alarmed when several urban schools have CRCT pass rates of 100%. It is VERY difficult, if not impossible to accomplish. This is even in spite of the fact that the both the CRCT tests was made easier this year AND the test “cut scores” were lowered. All of this was done in secret- naturally.

As for the marvelous test results we are seeing this year, DO NOT BE FOOLED!!! I know from direct evidence that the test was made much easier across the board. Why? To produce results that showed “our students making great improvement.”

Yet, we know this– the upper middle class, white, suburban schools like those in east Cobb, N. Fulton, Forsyth Co, N. Gwinnett, etc. consistently produce students who score well on standardized tests. You see 90% pass rates on the CRCT year after year. Why? It’s not genetics or intelligence, but the superior preparation of those students. These are students who were the recipients of a rigorous and generally higher level of instruction. But we also know that the families of these students have many more resources at their disposal than students in other communities.

I know that Atlanta Public Schools runs a YEAR LONG, FROM DAY 1, test prep program. Everyday is test prep, Direct Instruction-style teaching and activities. Direct Instruction for the uninitiated is a scripted reading program where the students respond on cue like dogs. There is even finger snapping and chants. It’s possible that if the Atlanta students have been through such an intensive test prep program for years (since kindergarten) they may be able to perform so well on the CRCT.

It makes you think. What are they doing in the Atlanta Public School system to produce students that score so well on standardized tests? Are their students really that good? I believe that it is the CONSISTENT, across-the board, never ending focus on test prep that is a FACTOR. Test prep drives the instruction in systems like APS and Gwinnett.

But can this explain the 100% pass rates in two APS schools. When the DOE encountered four schools with such high pass rates on last years retests, look at the scandal that ensured. Are there more scandals to come?

Dr. John Trotter

July 10th, 2009
10:43 pm

Hey you Hall Lackeys: Keep this is mind…MACE protects good teachers from rogue and dishonest administrators like the ones who fill the administrative ranks of the Atlanta Public Schools. Please don’t misunderstand me one bit: I think that the Atlanta Public School System is corrupt to the core. Am I understood? I try to be plain. Do you want me to repeat this? Free gratis: I think that the Atlanta Public School System is corrupt to the core. I await response from anyone in the administration of this corrupt school system to publicly debate me on the matter. Are you scared? I am calling out you bunch of bozos. My name is John Trotter, and you know how to get in touch with me. (c) MACE, 2009.

Calling Donna Lowery

July 10th, 2009
10:52 pm

Donna Lowery, the education reporter at 11 Alive News, has had Dr. Hall on her programs on many occasions. Perhaps she will arrange to have Dr. Trotter and Dr. Hall on one of her programs, so they can both shed some light on testing issues of concern to all Georgians.

Dr. John Trotter

July 10th, 2009
10:58 pm

I am still waiting for you Beverly Hall Lackeys to come on here and take me up on my offer. I don’t hide behind pseudonyms or any anonymity. My name is John Trotter, and I will be glad to publicly debate ANYONE in the Beverly Hall administration in Atlanta or in the Crawford Lewis admininstration in DeKalb about the corruption of their school systems. We can even draw up formal propositions with each side taking the affirmative or negative. You guys are jokes. You taunt the teahers, deny them their legal rights, and expect the public to buy into your horsesh-t public relations. Let me quote Dr. King: “A lie can’t live forever.”

Calling Donna Lowery

July 10th, 2009
11:06 pm

Speaking of 11 Alive, look at this quote from their website.

“Dr. Beverly Hall declined numerous requests from 11Alive Friday for a one-on-one interview to respond to the Governor’s comments.”

What does it say, when Donna Lowery has repeatedly given Dr. Hall a forum to promote APS, that she won’t even appear on camera to talk about these charges? If you are convinced that no cheating occurred, aren’t you going to use every opportunity to advocate for your schools?

If 11 Alive can’t get Hall for an interview, perhaps they could get Dr. Trotter.

Where is Jeff Hubbard?

July 10th, 2009
11:46 pm

Jeff Hubbard, the head of GAE has admitted he looks at this blog; he even responded to it to address a question about how they handle conflicts of interests between administrative members of GAE and teacher members of GAE.

I don’t think there is any question where Dr. John Trotter of MACE stands, and has stood, on this cheating scandal, and in particular, APS’s response to it. And there is no question his stand has been vindicated by both Kathleen Mathers, executive director of the Governor’s Office of Student Achievement, and by Governor Perdue himself.

So it begs the question where is Jeff Hubbard? Has he addressed this? He hasn’t here; perhaps he has elsewhere. But if not, why not? If GAE is truly an advocate for what’s in the best interests of education in Georgia, how can they possibly be silent on an issue like this, when a leading education official, in defiance of all evidence to the contrary, refuses to take responsibility for shortchanging students?

MACE to their credit, certainly has not. Is GAE willing to step up to the plate and condemn these actions as well? And if you’re an GAE member, don’t you want to encourage them to do so?

ScienceTeacher671

July 11th, 2009
9:17 am

Maybe it’s ALL a sideshow…who is addressing the real scandals?

1. Students are promoted whether or not they pass the CRCT, and whether or not they have the skills to succeed at the next level.

2. Students who “meet expectations” on the CRCT are not necessarily working anywhere close to grade level – in other words, don’t have the skills to succeed at the next level – because the cut scores are set so low.

3. There are still schools in Georgia where large proportions of the students cannot or do not reach even the minimal expectations of the CRCT – but most of those students are not remediated, but promoted anyway.

In effect, the DOE is “cheating” all our students, every day, by setting unrealistically low expectations and telling parents and students that those who pass the CRCT are “proficient” when that is far from true.

Our school districts are “cheating” students every year, by committee-promoting students who do not have the skills to succeed at the next level, rather than providing those students with adequate remediation and/or letting the students know that they will not move on until they expend more effort.

Where is the outrage?

William Casey

July 11th, 2009
11:06 am

The cheating in schools issue is much more pervasive than the simple changing of answers on “high stakes” tests. It is a way of life. It’s not just an APS or DeKalb issue, though their actions may be especially egregious. I was Dean of Students at Chattahoochee HS (North Fulton) in the mid-1990’s under Bob Burke as principal. Here is my story.

Cheating in the classroom was rampant. I surveyed teachers and students to confirm this. I assembled a group of dedicated teachers and concerned students to devise a plan to deal with this. We came up with a plan based upon the University of Virginia’s honor code model. Good plan.

I was soon thereafter removed as Dean. Mr. Burke thought that the revelation of cheating would make him look bad to the “higher ups.” He aspired to a higher paying job at Fulton County’s central office. He got it. That’s the way things work in public schools.

Dr. John Trotter

July 11th, 2009
12:55 pm

Hey Crawford Lewis, Beverly Hall, and Mark Elgart…I am still waiting. The three biggest educational hypocrites in Georgia. Phoney baloney. I am calling y’all out, but you are too scared. Boo!

APS Board of Ed in denial

July 11th, 2009
2:06 pm

The APS school board, in an email to 11 Alive, stands by the APS statements on the cheating.
In other words, not a single one of them is willing to take a stand for integrity.

Deeply Concerned

July 11th, 2009
2:10 pm

how is it hypocritical to stand behind your schools and not some statistical data which was prepared by a company that gets cut a check everytime the students in Georgia takes a test. Yes cheating is a problem and apparently this system caught people that were guilty, but does that mean that everyone is guilty and the others that weren’t called out are innocent. What about the people that cheat without erasing answers. Call them out as well.

Keep the pressure up

July 11th, 2009
2:27 pm

There is only one thing that’s going to make APS officials come clean on this cheating scandal. Keeping the pressure up. APS officials are squirming, hiding in their offices refusing to comment, then trying to spin doctor their way out of it by releasing new statements, and having the board of education do so as well. And that’s because of the pressure brought by Perdue, the AJC, and 11 Alive.

These are typical evasive tactics all designed to ride the storm out. So it’s up to the people to keep the storm coming. Write your board member, and tell them you aren’t happy with the response. Let them know standing as one voice in denial isn’t going to work for them personally, as they’ll be standing alone next election time, out in the cold.

Let 11 Alive know you appreciate the story, and to please continue to put the heat on. Let the AJC know that they need to keep the pressure up. The only way to get to the bottom of this, is that people insist on the truth. That means keep the pressure up, until the truth boils over.

ShooShee

July 11th, 2009
2:49 pm

Maybe it’s time to return to the day of elected school superintendents. They don’t usually last much longer than 3-5 years anyway…

Bob

July 11th, 2009
3:28 pm

Good stuff, Perdue. It needed to be said.

Student in Atlanta

July 11th, 2009
4:18 pm

I blame the system. The governor feels that the only talent for a state’s superintendent is someone in another state and not Georgia. Teachers and administrators have to inflate scores in order to receive bonuses for schools who fail to meet AYP on a consistent basis. Parents who blame teachers and administrators for their kids not making the grade rather than participating in PTA meetings, parent-teacher conferences, and being proactive during everyday tasks. Students not taking responsibility in education while being concerned about the latest fashions, cars, music, and trying to make quick money.

ShooShee

July 11th, 2009
7:24 pm

Wow – worlds apart –

““The evidence is overwhelming,” Perdue added, “and any reasonable person can see that cheating occurred and children were harmed.”
vs
“Atlanta officials took the position that since no one confessed, no cheating occurred. … The system, (APS Superintendent Hall) said, “does not condone cheating, [but] based on our internal investigation and an investigation conducted by an external party, the preliminary results show that cheating could not be proven on these … tests.”

SO – no proof – no crime! That sounds like a good lesson for Atlanta’s children…

Bart Simpson

July 11th, 2009
9:51 pm

Alright to my girl Beverly! “I didn’t do! You didn’t see it! You can’t prove it!” Yes, Beverly my girl, you tell the Governor in a good ole Bartish retort! Beverly Hall, my Simpsonian Sista! Hey, Bev, Homer says, “You hang, Girl!” Stick one in the Governor’s eye. He can’t prove that Deerwood Academy officials cheated. He didn’t see them. What’s up with that? He’s picking on you because you are a Woman of Distinction and Color. He’s trying to bring you down. {Don’t let him know about New Jersey. “Ouch!” That was Homer in the background.) Yes! In your eye, Sonny! You didn’t actually see them cheating! You can’t prove it!

Dr. Craig Spinks /Evans

July 12th, 2009
2:57 am

Two rhetorical questions: (1) What is the identity of the “external party” which conducted the second investigation of alleged cheating on CRCTs administered to APS students? (2) Does anyone think that the APS should be the only school system, education-related entity, or politico “called out” on the issue of cheating on CRCTs?

Nikole

July 12th, 2009
10:41 am

Dr.Spinks—They are the only ones being called out because they are the only ones claiming that no cheating has taken place, despite overwhelming evidence.

Cobb is corrupt too, Dr. Trotter

July 12th, 2009
11:04 am

If anyone is familiar with Cobb’s Russell Elementary School and the evil principal, Dr. Nancy DiPetrillo, you know how evil looks. She uses the PDP in a jaw dropping way to manipulate anyone that she has turned on and wants to get rid of. The school system turns its back and allows this kind of thing to happen.

She twisted a 36 year old teacher into a pretzel, using the PDP, pressuring her to unimaginative extremes and this lady literally DROPPED DEAD. Another of her teachers, whom she herself always held up as one of her best, was SUDDENLY placed on her PDP, tortured with work day and night, ridden during the school day so this lady could hardly teach her class and then recommended she “resign or face non-renewal.” When parents go to the school about their kid’s grades, SHE FORCES HER TEACHER TO CHANGE THE GRADE. We think that this is why she changed on this second teacher because she balked big time before changing the grades. In our opinion, this excellent teacher by all her peers and the principal at one time, was forced from the Cobb system and is now without a job plain and simple. What kind of evilness is that?

That’s just our school in Cobb. I’d be willing to bet there are others.

What a shame…what a waste.

ShooShee

July 12th, 2009
1:15 pm

Public schools in metro Atlanta have become a jobs program for people with PhD’s in the goofy subject “Educational Leadership” or “Organization Development” (often earned online).

Calling Donna Lowery

July 12th, 2009
1:31 pm

Dr. Spinks, the reason APS deserves to be called out above all others is that in their arrogance they are acting like they are above the law. For that reason, the public and media and DOE need to focus more on them to compel them to come clean.

Maybe someone needs to file a formal ethics complaint to get their attention.

Bart Simpson, DOFD

July 12th, 2009
2:22 pm

Y’all leave my girl Beverly Hall alone. She has never confessed that cheating has taken place in APS. Therefore, it hasn’t. She was one of my stellar students at the Bart Simpson Graduate School of Obvious Fact Denial (OFD). In fact, I even asked her, as one of our Graduate Assistants, to teach an undergraduate course in DO & DO (Denying the Obvious & Denying the Overt). Beverly Hall, I have you guys know, has this sh_t down pat!

Seen it all

July 12th, 2009
2:52 pm

Like I said before, these Georgia school systems (principals) are allowed to do as they please. It’s interesting to hear that Cobb principals are allowed to put teachers on PDPs without just cause. But look at their own board. It was reported in the AJC and the Marietta Daily Journal that the school board has had numerous secret votes in meetings.

I have friends who teach in Cobb and they tell me that it is gruesome there. But I don’t think that Cobb is too different from the other systems around here. Down in the south, these school systems (Atlanta, Dekalb, Cobb, Clayton, Gwinnett, etc.) are allowed to do whatever they please. Right and wrong be darned. Principals use the schoolhouse as they own personal fiefdom. They are not instructional leaders, but building managers at best. Here is the key for everyone to understand- AS SOON AS ANY OF THESE PEONS ARE QUESTIONED, THEY EXPLODE AND BECOME VINDICTIVE, DESTRUCTIVE, AND RETRIBUTIVE. As in the case of the forementioned teacher, when she opposed changing a student’s grade, she was marked for destruction. A second grade teacher.

A real leader could have handled that differently. But if you don’t know anything and are only in a position to serve as a “supervisor”, then every little thing threatens you. You become more focused on extracting obedience from your staff than motivating and leading them to educational excellence. Most of the principals I see are more focused staff attendance and compliance with rules and directives rather than pursuing goals that improve student achievement.

Tonight’s homework- Select an article from the Haberman website, read it, and be prepared to share a summary of the article and your views on it for class on Monday.

http://www.habermanfoundation.org/ResearchDrHaberman.aspx?sm=d1

Where are PAGE and GAE?

July 12th, 2009
4:21 pm

There are way too many documented cases of retaliation with the PDP instrument to have any doubt it is embedded in the system as a retaliatory weapon. Have PAGE and GAE ever addressed this? For whatever people want to say about MACE, they have been the most forthright in addressing systemic abuses that teachers face in Georgia.

I’m sure the administrators who comprise a large part of GAE and PAGE membership are all too happy for them to be silent on this issue. But if you’re a teacher in those organizations, does their silence give you any confidence, that if you’re rights are violated in a retaliatory manner, PAGE or GAE will stand behind you?

And has either PAGE or GAE made a public statement on APS’s denials? If they haven’t, what does it say about their values if they have remained silent on the issue, when APS’ actions have been condemned by people as diverse as MACE, the Governor’s office, and the state DOE?

Another lost post

July 12th, 2009
5:11 pm

Another lost post. The AJC should go into the business of running public education. They are certainly incompetent enough to do the job as incompetently as it’s being done now.

Inside Source

July 12th, 2009
7:07 pm

It is obvious that none of you know how APS works. Beverly would never stand behind a school where cheating takes place. Get your facts straight. Our girl Ms. Mathers really botched Deerwood’s investigation. It will all come out real soon. She wanted so desperately to include an Atlanta school that she failed to do a thorough job. Shame on her!! Bev doesn’t have to deny anything nor plead her case on the news. You all will soon learn the truth about Perdue’s girl. The eager beaver did something that she should never have done. He along with Cox may have to eat this one!!!!!

Please resolve to tell us Inside Source

July 12th, 2009
9:03 pm

Inside Source since you’re so knowledgeable, please do share your insight.

If everybody is so wrong about this, please give us the rebuttal to each point raised by the Resolve to ignore resolve post, since Resolve appears to be unwilling, or unable to do so.

But since you’re a self proclaimed Inside Source, for the good of the school system’s reputation, we look forward to your point by point rebuttal.

That is, unless you should have really named yourself Hot Air In Denial.