Worried about college budget cuts?

College students will see some changes when they show up for fall semester.

Classes will be bigger. Libraries and computer labs will have shorter hours. Fewer class sections will be offered. Equipment will be older.

Expect all that and more as colleges slashed their budgets because of cuts in state funding and declined revenue from endowments and other investments.

Students, parents and professors: How worried are you about these cuts?

What will this do to the quality of education students receive and their ability to graduate on time?

10 comments Add your comment

Ernest

July 3rd, 2009
8:42 am

This is more a sign of the times than anything else. We will become creative and make the necessary adjustments. Some students may consider going to a two year college near home for the first two years then matriculating to the 4 year university for the last two years. More students will give stronger consideration to staying in state. It may take students 5-6 years (which I think is OK) to graduate but as long as they remain focused, they can come out prepare to compete in the global workplace.

The irrelevant AJC

July 3rd, 2009
9:13 am

Of all the topics ever broached on this blog, of all the information exchanged on this blog, of all the stories ever exposed by posters on this blog, has Laura or any other AJC staffer ever followed up with a relevant story that has led to an actual change in education in Georgia?

Can you have a more damning indictment of the irrelevance of this blog?

Seen it all

July 3rd, 2009
11:34 am

The question is, when will the censorship on this blog stop? Countless people have said that their posts are not making it on the blog. Why?

Until Laura or someone else at the AJC answers that question, then there really isn’t much to say about this (colleges) or any other subject.

catlady

July 3rd, 2009
1:16 pm

And students, who must be full time, will sign up for whatever they can get, although it may not be appropriate for their major. Then, in the essence of bait and switch, the state will only pay for a certain number of hours in terms of HOPE. And the state has considered a surcharge on “additional” hours a student may have accumulated trying to stay full time unable to get the classes they need.

I am not at all saying that this is the only reason students accumulate extensive hours. Students drop classes to remain HOPE gpa. They change majors. Some even try to be on the 7 year graduation plan on purpose.

Many of our larger colleges are already not very student-friendly in terms of having open class sections. Athletes, honor students, and grad students have first choice of classes, followed by upperclassmen. The rub comes because the general ed classes fill up quickly, especially in the prime times (11-3). Georgia ENCOURAGES AND FACILITATES many students, many marginal, starting college but throws up numerous roadblocks. Cutbacks in classes are a double-whammy.

Cere

July 3rd, 2009
10:48 pm

Speaking as someone who worked to put herself through college in the 70’s after my dad lost his job of 30 years (paid by me with tips from waiting tables – 100% – no grants – no scholarships) I can say that this is not the end of the world. Where there’s a will, there’s a way and the students who remain focused, as Ernest said, will prevail and be stronger for the journey.

Two Liberty Red Shoes

July 4th, 2009
10:41 am

To Soren and any other blogger on Get Schooled: Happy Fourth of July! We enjoy our freedom of expression! Thanks, Laura, for a wonderful job! Your secret admirer, Two Liberty Red Shoes

What?

July 4th, 2009
12:04 pm

Laura, wonderful job?

Someone confuse the Fourth of July with April Fool’s Day?

DB

July 4th, 2009
2:27 pm

You deal with it. What else can you do? Refuse to go to college?

The colleges in North Carolina, for example, double your tuition if you go over 140 hours, with an eye towards discouraging the professional student phenomenon. A typical college graduation, in four years, is 120 hours (30 hours per year). It’s a little tricky, if you come into college with a lot of AP hours, though. If you come in with more than 20 hours, but you elect to pursue a different field of study (i.e., a lot of history and social science credits, but you elect to major in a hard science), then you have to be very careful, or your last year may be a whopper. It would be nice if there was a differentiation between hours earned and hours taken in this case.

Reality

July 5th, 2009
8:29 pm

Someone needs to look at the big picture….

Elementary students are passed along (rarely held back) mostly because we don’t want to damage their poor little egos. After all, they can learn the material in the next year, right?

Middle school students are passed along for a variety of reasons. The administrators cheat on the CRCT to ensure that enough are passed. The kids egos are still precious. Besides, middle school doesn’t matter – grades in high school are all that matter, right?

High schools get dumped with tons of kids coming out of middle school that are ill-prepared. However, teachers are pressured to not only pass the student, but to give high marks so that they can get into college. Students have never learned to study, to take tests, to be students – and they don’t have to as long as the ’system’ passes them.

Colleges are pressured to ignore the SAT – it is a standardized test that cannot POSSIBLY measure the student, right? So, colleges see the inflated grades from high school. And, they are more than happy to accept them – after all, more students = more tuition money. These smaller colleges gladly will take a high school graduate that cannot read/write or do math.

Now the recession hits. Reduce the college student popultion? No way! That will reduce tuition money coming in. Why focus on the real college student that really earned their way? So, colleges will reduce services to all.

When will the madness end?

catlady

July 6th, 2009
7:35 am

Reality: tuition provides only a small percent of the cost of putting on the classes. Adding more students means providing more classes and providing more student services. Adding students is NOT a big money-maker for colleges. You can thank your legislators for HOPE which has done a lot to swell the ranks of college students, and marginally-prepared college students the most. Now, have the colleges kicked and screamed about the HOPE grant? Not much. Initially they complained because the program was dumped on them with no money for administration. As far as bragging rights, though, HOPE has allowed GT and UGA to see a rise in SAT/GPA, as more students who would have gone private or OOS stayed home. HOPE has also allowed the lower tier colleges to proudly proclaim “Our student population has increased 40% over the last 15 years!”