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		<title>By: Miscellaneous Teacher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/07/01/what-new-education-laws-go-into-effect-today/comment-page-1/#comment-4307</link>
		<dc:creator>Miscellaneous Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Math and Science teachers are getting paid more than others b/c yes, the &quot;demand is higher than the supply&quot;. Perhaps this is because no one wants to teach math or science because just maybe teaching them IS harder than other subjects. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Math and Science teachers are getting paid more than others b/c yes, the &#8220;demand is higher than the supply&#8221;. Perhaps this is because no one wants to teach math or science because just maybe teaching them IS harder than other subjects. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Sawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that all Fulton County teachers are taking a 4% pay cut next year. Did our state and national legislators take a pay cut?

If Georgia keeps the new math curriculum, the pay will not matter, no one will want the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that all Fulton County teachers are taking a 4% pay cut next year. Did our state and national legislators take a pay cut?</p>
<p>If Georgia keeps the new math curriculum, the pay will not matter, no one will want the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Literate Science Teacher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2009/07/01/what-new-education-laws-go-into-effect-today/comment-page-1/#comment-3738</link>
		<dc:creator>Literate Science Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging by the grammar in the 12:13 a.m. post, RC is not a very good English teacher....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging by the grammar in the 12:13 a.m. post, RC is not a very good English teacher&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Food for thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Food for thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why did we determine that math and science are more important, because there isn’t enough of them?&quot;

Exactly RC - it&#039;s called supply and demand (you know, supply goes down; demand, and therefore cost, goes up).

&quot;...lets see them try to grade 100 multi page essays every week.&quot;

OK, RC, as long as the English teachers are willing to grade the multi-page lab reports and non-multiple choice math tests...let me ask you, do the English teachers with advanced degrees have a more difficult time grading those &quot;100 multi-page&quot; essays? Do they grade more? Then why are we ok paying a premium for advanced degrees, but not for certain content matter? Is it really that different?

We all realize that this is a moot point, because math and science teachers are never going to see this pay increase, right??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why did we determine that math and science are more important, because there isn’t enough of them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly RC &#8211; it&#8217;s called supply and demand (you know, supply goes down; demand, and therefore cost, goes up).</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;lets see them try to grade 100 multi page essays every week.&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, RC, as long as the English teachers are willing to grade the multi-page lab reports and non-multiple choice math tests&#8230;let me ask you, do the English teachers with advanced degrees have a more difficult time grading those &#8220;100 multi-page&#8221; essays? Do they grade more? Then why are we ok paying a premium for advanced degrees, but not for certain content matter? Is it really that different?</p>
<p>We all realize that this is a moot point, because math and science teachers are never going to see this pay increase, right??</p>
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		<title>By: ScienceTeacher671</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScienceTeacher671</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, RC, speaking of doctors - why do specialists get paid more than general practitioners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, RC, speaking of doctors &#8211; why do specialists get paid more than general practitioners?</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So a math or science teacher is more valuable than me? I have certification in all subjects at all levels, yet my principal wants me to teach English so I get less money? Why did we determine that math and science are more important, because there isn&#039;t enough of them? That&#039;s not my problem. I bet you as a English or a Social Studies teacher I work just as hard if not harder than a math or science teacher, lets see them try to grade 100 multi page essays every week. While we are at it why dont we do like the olden days and pay the elementary teachers less than the secondary teachers, since the thought was that teaching them was easier. And as for allowing children to go anywhere they want in the district, what is the thought behind that? This is what happens, you get a student who fails in one school one marking period, they move to another, then another then another. Guess what the kid learns, its not their fault they failed, must be all the schools! 

There you are, two stupid laws written by people who have no idea about education. Why educators allow these simpleton glorified parents to create these laws is beyond me.I mean you wouldn&#039;t go to a doctor and tell him how to perform surgery or get on a plane and tell him how to fly it would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a math or science teacher is more valuable than me? I have certification in all subjects at all levels, yet my principal wants me to teach English so I get less money? Why did we determine that math and science are more important, because there isn&#8217;t enough of them? That&#8217;s not my problem. I bet you as a English or a Social Studies teacher I work just as hard if not harder than a math or science teacher, lets see them try to grade 100 multi page essays every week. While we are at it why dont we do like the olden days and pay the elementary teachers less than the secondary teachers, since the thought was that teaching them was easier. And as for allowing children to go anywhere they want in the district, what is the thought behind that? This is what happens, you get a student who fails in one school one marking period, they move to another, then another then another. Guess what the kid learns, its not their fault they failed, must be all the schools! </p>
<p>There you are, two stupid laws written by people who have no idea about education. Why educators allow these simpleton glorified parents to create these laws is beyond me.I mean you wouldn&#8217;t go to a doctor and tell him how to perform surgery or get on a plane and tell him how to fly it would you?</p>
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		<title>By: dbow</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a math teacher for 15 years, you&#039;re darn right I should be getting more money.  A pe teacher with the same numbers of years as me gets the same pay and does what exactly?  In the &quot;real&quot; world, the jobs that are more demanding get paid more so why not in education?  Every time my school has mandatory department meetings, the pe teachers are excused to go do whatever it is that they do which is close to nothing.  I&#039;ve got a bulls eye on my head every year due to benchmarks and crct and claims of grade inflation and I could go on.  Every year when we have our retention meetings(not that anyone ever gets retained)only core courses are considered.  Not spanish, art, pe or any other specials class.  Give me a break people.  I deserve more because my job comes with greater responsibility and risk.  So there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a math teacher for 15 years, you&#8217;re darn right I should be getting more money.  A pe teacher with the same numbers of years as me gets the same pay and does what exactly?  In the &#8220;real&#8221; world, the jobs that are more demanding get paid more so why not in education?  Every time my school has mandatory department meetings, the pe teachers are excused to go do whatever it is that they do which is close to nothing.  I&#8217;ve got a bulls eye on my head every year due to benchmarks and crct and claims of grade inflation and I could go on.  Every year when we have our retention meetings(not that anyone ever gets retained)only core courses are considered.  Not spanish, art, pe or any other specials class.  Give me a break people.  I deserve more because my job comes with greater responsibility and risk.  So there!</p>
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		<title>By: Food for thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Food for thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you complaining that math/science teachers shouldn&#039;t get paid more because they do the same job as you, how do you justify the boost in pay for advanced degrees?  Teachers at my school who have MS/MEd/EdSs  don&#039;t necessarily do more work that those with BA/BSs - and there are teachers with only BA/BSs who are team leaders and department heads...

Same argument with step increases - how do you justify that?  I know I worked a lot harder and many more hours my first year than later years, yet I get paid more now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you complaining that math/science teachers shouldn&#8217;t get paid more because they do the same job as you, how do you justify the boost in pay for advanced degrees?  Teachers at my school who have MS/MEd/EdSs  don&#8217;t necessarily do more work that those with BA/BSs &#8211; and there are teachers with only BA/BSs who are team leaders and department heads&#8230;</p>
<p>Same argument with step increases &#8211; how do you justify that?  I know I worked a lot harder and many more hours my first year than later years, yet I get paid more now.</p>
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		<title>By: jodee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am certified to teach middle grade science......and Language Arts and Social Studies and Reading.....and Special Ed. and Gifted ed....but if my administrator doesn&#039;t assign me to science, I don&#039;t get the extra bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am certified to teach middle grade science&#8230;&#8230;and Language Arts and Social Studies and Reading&#8230;..and Special Ed. and Gifted ed&#8230;.but if my administrator doesn&#8217;t assign me to science, I don&#8217;t get the extra bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: high school teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>high school teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP Teacher, I was just commenting that your argument to Spanish teacher is invalid because there are other subjects on the high stakes tests whose teachers are not receiving higher pay. I do understand that the shortage of math and science teachers poses a problem, but paying them more isn&#039;t the answer, IMO. 

But yeah, I&#039;m okay now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP Teacher, I was just commenting that your argument to Spanish teacher is invalid because there are other subjects on the high stakes tests whose teachers are not receiving higher pay. I do understand that the shortage of math and science teachers poses a problem, but paying them more isn&#8217;t the answer, IMO. </p>
<p>But yeah, I&#8217;m okay now. <img src='http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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