Barnes, Deal take the gloves off in latest debate

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Perry – With their election less than three weeks away, Democratic candidate for governor Roy Barnes and Republican Nathan Deal returned to their bare-knuckle slugfest over ethics on Thursday during a feisty debate before hundreds of boisterous spectators here.

Deal accused Barnes of representing legal cases before judges he appointed when he was governor. Deal’s campaign has repeatedly alleged Barnes’ law practice prospered in part because of those activities.

“Could you explain to us why you did not disclose this to the public because I believe it is a serious issue,” Deal said.

Barnes said he personally tried only one case before a judge he appointed and that his law firm appeared before others on motions and injunctions. He added that he appointed Deal’s son, Jason, as a district attorney and that he once appeared before his son after his son became a judge.

“I appeared before him and he ruled in favor of me. Are you saying your son is corrupt?” Barnes said.

Later in the debate, Barnes shot back at Deal, accusing him of mixing public business with private business when he was a congressman. Barnes referred to how in 2005 Deal and his congressional staff intervened with state officials — including Attorney General Thurbert Baker — to advocate for a landfill he and a partner wanted to build in Gainesville.

“I want you to tell the people here one person, one constituent, other than you or your business partner, that you ever went to the attorney general about and asked him to help you change the law to fit that constituent,” Barnes said.

Deal defended the landfill project. And after the debate, he told reporters he had no financial interest in it.

“This landfill situation ought to be one that we are proud of,” Deal said. “I don’t make any apologies for that. This is the first time that you can find where a private individual is willing to go in and spend their own money to take an unlined sanitary landfill and put that in a liner to protect the community.”

Libertarian John Monds largely stayed out of the fray.

“What most people have noticed is I don’t get into personal attacks. I talk about real issues facing Georgians,” Monds said. “What I’m trying to do with you is share a message. And the message is this: We know what works… And that is more freedom, more liberty, the respect for individual rights, letting people keep the hard-earned money they are working for instead of giving it to government.”

The three candidates debated before a cheering – and sometimes booing – crowd in a cavernous auditorium at the fairgrounds. The hour-long debate touched on a variety of subjects, including illegal immigration, taxes, the tri-state water war and Georgia’s projected budget deficit.

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roybama barnes

October 14th, 2010
10:06 pm

King Roy with his lust for power coddled the most notorious serial pedophile in U.S. history! Why would Roy Barnes attempt to thwart an investigation of this pedophile? http://bibbrepublicanparty.com

John

October 14th, 2010
10:30 pm

Nathan Deal eats babies.

John

October 14th, 2010
10:33 pm

Dear roybama barnes dork, Erick Erickson, practical deity of conservatives, is voting for Carol Porter for Lt. Governor. That’s probably not the only Dem he’ll vote for. How’s it feel to sink with the titanic?

Daniel

October 14th, 2010
10:48 pm

No Barnes, No Deal, Vote Monds!

Cheryl

October 15th, 2010
12:02 am

I am a single mom, who happens to vote Republican , but not forr DEal. I will vote a split ticket. I CROOK IS A CROOK IS A CROOk! I don’t care about Barack or Washington right now. All I care about is trying to keep my NO DEAL! Yes, for the other Republicans.

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NoDealGeorgia

October 15th, 2010
12:06 am

Deal really bombed that debate. Monds came off sticking to his principles while Barnes just annihilated him over the ethics issues. Notice how Deal never did say one constituent other than himself and his buisness partner that he lobbied the Attorney General for. And when Barnes fired back re: Deal’s son, it was a jaw dropping moment.

Cheryl

October 15th, 2010
12:43 am

As a teacher, I didnot vote for Barnes in the last election. But now, under Republican Governer and Georgia Congress, I am faced with 10 furlough day and a 7% decrease in pay with the future looks bleek. I MUST VOTE FOR BRANES, he never lowers our pay, just demaned reforn which I did not like at the time. I wish I had understood!

Mike

October 15th, 2010
5:00 am

Please people, we have had a self serving crook for almost 8 years. DONT VOTE DEAL!!!!

Road Scholar

October 15th, 2010
6:43 am

Aren’t judges suppose to be selected based on their understanding of the law, their ability to reason the law, and on ETHICS? It is obvious that Deal, who is a trained lawyer, has no idea of what the judges reponsibilities are, and more importantly, has no ethics.

Besides, Nathan, after insulting all judges, how will going to bankruptcy court come out?

Roy Barnes

October 15th, 2010
7:06 am

Of course our undocumented residents should be permitted to vote in our elections. They have a vested interest in what goes on here; and will make loyal Democrats once we get them hooked on some government goodies !

Robert

October 15th, 2010
7:43 am

Cheryl, maybe you deserve the pay cut. Of all professions, you would expect teachers to use better grammar. Go back and read outloud exactly what you wrote.

cajdawg

October 15th, 2010
7:52 am

Both of these men are redneck stooges. Karen Handel would have made an excellent governor. The Republicans really screwed this one up.

Willis

October 15th, 2010
8:06 am

Deal, Barnes and Monds. This is the best Georgia has to offer?

The Georgia taxpayer will get screwed regardless of who wins. Deal will get free lodging and more state money for his businesses, Barnes will try to get a few needed things done but won’t be able to because the Assembly is Republican, and Monds will be singing the same cliche song at the end of 4 years as he is now and nothing will have changed. Sad.

None of the Above

October 15th, 2010
8:12 am

What a sorry slate of candidates.

Bill

October 15th, 2010
8:16 am

Robert, “outloud” is not a word. Cheryl is probably a fine teacher and regardless, her sentiment is absolutely correct.

By the way, when is Shady Deal releasing his full tax returns? Maybe some errors can be found that save him some money (just as Barnes’ amendment will generate a net refund).

GA VOTER

October 15th, 2010
8:18 am

Cheryl,

A lot of Georgians haven’t had a raise in several years. Many don’t have jobs to go to. Considering this economy and budget crisis all states are in, do you really think Barnes is going to give you a raise?

Dream on.

H&R Block

October 15th, 2010
8:19 am

Roy Barnes,

Gives us a call. Sounds like your accountant sucks !

good ole earl

October 15th, 2010
8:24 am

Bill

October 15th, 2010
8:34 am

H&R: Maybe Roy should have used Shady Deal’s accountant and paid less than 2% federal income tax.

GA VOTER: Cheryl was not looking for a raise from Barnes. Her pay has been cut under Sunny and it’s not like teachers are overpaid to begin with.

Billy in Savannah

October 15th, 2010
8:43 am

Barnes did make an error on his taxes. At least it was open and transparent. There is “no telling” what is in Deal’s. I cannot understand why any well read voted would consider voting for Deal.

Juan Carlos Diego Raul Sanchez

October 15th, 2010
8:43 am

Lord what a couple of douche bags…I will have to vote for the unused douche bag…how can someone run on a failed 4 years…”hire me I sucked – I promise not to suck as much this time”…

GA VOTER

October 15th, 2010
8:45 am

Bill,

Considering the morons and future government dependents the Georgia public school system is cranking out, Cheryl is lucky to have a job.

Bill

October 15th, 2010
8:52 am

GA VOTER: You get what you pay for.

professional skeptic

October 15th, 2010
9:17 am

“I appeared before him and he ruled in favor of me. Are you saying your son is corrupt?” Barnes said.

HAHAHAAHAHA!!!

Sorry, but this passage made me laugh. (GOOD ONE BARNES! Take those gloves off!)

Taxed Enough

October 15th, 2010
9:17 am

Bill,

Pay each teacher $125,000 and not only would it not be enough, but your child’s government “education” wouldn’t be any better.

Perhaps the problem runs a bit deeper than teacher salaries.

Skeptic

October 15th, 2010
9:25 am

I seem to recall the Georgia public school system wasn’t any better undere Barnes. In fact Georgia ranked last in the SAT during his failed administration. King Roy’s response was to insult the teachers. Now he’s pandering to the unions.

Bill

October 15th, 2010
9:48 am

I believe we were ranked last 1 year. Most years we thank God for Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama and DC and the like. We haven’t improved under Sunny. We’re 47.

VERITAS

October 15th, 2010
9:50 am

If Barnes had switched parties in the 1990s along with Nathan Deal and Sonny Perdue, not only would he have served two terms as Georgia governor, but he’d be in Washington today as Senator Barnes from Georgia.

With the “D” next to his name he will be linked with Obama, Pelosi, Frank and the other 60s flower children that are financially destroying this country from within.

So be it.

VERITAS

October 15th, 2010
9:56 am

Hey, Bill.

Where did Georgia education rank under Barnes, Miller, Harris, Busbee, Carter, and the other Democrats that ran Georgia for 200 years before Sonny Perdue took office in 2003? Was it better?

Get a grip on reality.

dan

October 15th, 2010
9:57 am

HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE FOR DEAL THE GOP. HAS SHOWN HOW CROCKED HE IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ON THE GROUND AND IT IS NO REASON AFTER BUSH PERDUE

Bill

October 15th, 2010
10:11 am

It stunk then and it stunk over the past 8 years with Sunny. At least his Education Commissioner was smarter than a 5th grader. However, she was no better managing money than Shady Deal.

Bill

October 15th, 2010
10:21 am

VERITAS: If I’m understanding you, you would vote for Barnes if he had an R after his name. (He’d be a 2-term Governor and a Senator in your opinion.) Instead, you’ll vote for a crook who does.

Skeptic

October 15th, 2010
10:34 am

Bill, What’s your solution (Roy Barnes?)for correcting Georgia’s public education disaster? There’s been no improvement under several generations of Democrat governors or 2-terms of Sonny Perdue, a former Democrat.

Aquagirl

October 15th, 2010
10:36 am

“I appeared before him and he ruled in favor of me. Are you saying your son is corrupt?” Barnes said.

Maybe the daddy Deal apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

Bill

October 15th, 2010
10:37 am

So you’re suggesting Deal (a former Democrat).

The Truth

October 15th, 2010
10:55 am

The sad reality is education begins at home. If parents and grandparents place little value in an education, why should the children that are being “educated” in the government daycare known as public schools. Public education is nothing more than one big rat hole, corrupted by big government unions, and bloated by bureaucracy.

If you love your children, find a way to send them to private school where they might get a better chance in life. Support politicians that support vouchers.

VERY CONCERNED

October 15th, 2010
12:24 pm

HOW CAN ANYBODY VOTE FOR EITHER DEAL OR BARNES? Which lessor of the two evils will be better for Georgia? Is this what you expect Georgia to do? Here is one canidate but he did nothing for GA. and here is the other one and he did the same? I say nobody vote for either one. Let’s get somebody in there who will do the right thing. Do the J O B that GA sent them in to do. HELP US OUT!! not create all the policical MESS!!

Brooke

October 15th, 2010
12:35 pm

For those of you making comments about teachers pay, please visit http://www.openga.gov and see what teachers make in the public schools! There are elementary school teachers making much more than college professors! They have Bachelors degrees or specialized degrees while anyone teaching college has to have a Master’s with 18 hours of additional graduate work or a Ph.D.

I do not want to hear any teacher complain about pay when they have their education paid for by the school systems and the state. They get a pay raise with every specialized or higher degree they earn — regardless of the college (like the University of Phoenix).

AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM IS SUFFERING AND TEST SCORES KEEP DROPPING . . .

Talmidge Demcrat

October 15th, 2010
1:30 pm

We need a nuther Jean Talmidge when the schoo was beter. I went to a one room schoo an I did all rite in life. My trayler is almose payed for an my gubmint check cums on a reglar bases. I think Roy Barns is jus the man we need.

David Griffin

October 15th, 2010
1:30 pm

Vote John Monds!

wes

October 15th, 2010
11:16 pm

Deal seems to think that we can’t read. He just denies that he had any interest in these companies. He seems to have benefited from being in Congress financially?

jwc

October 17th, 2010
1:06 pm

I’d vote for Al Capone before Barnes.

Angry As Hell

October 18th, 2010
8:30 am

jwc–If you vote for Deal, you are voting for Al Capone.

Bill Knowles

October 18th, 2010
9:59 am

Please read about the real Roy Barnes and what he did to derail an investigation on one of the most notorious child molestors in US history at http://www.wearepolitics.com