Wheels turning for Tech coordinator hiring
Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson expects to have a defensive coordinator hired before national signing day Feb. 6. Johnson said he has already begun speaking with candidates about the opening created with the midseason firing of coordinator Al Groh.
“I should know what I’m going to do here in the next couple of weeks when I get through” meeting with candidates, Johnson said. “I just want to be real thorough with it. I’m not going to rush into something and then regret it.”
Johnson told 790 the Zone Thursday that he had three or four candidates that he was committed to talking with before making a decision. Interim coordinator Charles Kelly, who replaced Groh, is a candidate. Tech’s defense finished strongly under Kelly, shutting out Florida State in the second half of the ACC Championship game loss and then holding USC to a touchdown in the Yellow Jackets’ 21-7 Sun Bowl win. Johnson told 790 that he spoke Thursday with Kelly about the position.
“I thought he did a good job,” Johnson said. “I thought all our defensive coaches did a good job.”
Johnson said his plan is for Kelly to remain on staff even if he isn’t made the full-time coordinator. Johnson deflected a question about the budget for the hire. Asked if the budget for the hire would be similar to Groh’s slot ($344,000), Johnson said, “We’ll see. It depends on what we have to do.”
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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Chris
January 7th, 2013
12:35 pm
Gotta B Kelly!
Tech Forever
January 7th, 2013
12:47 pm
Lance Thompson, Lance Thompson, a million times Lance Thompson.
Oman Jacket
January 7th, 2013
12:50 pm
I’m hoping for Giff Smith. No shot against Kelly – but I’d like a fresh start.
GT Fan
January 7th, 2013
12:51 pm
Let’s just hope Stephon Tuitt’s mom isn’t on the selection committee … don’t think she’s very smart.
Here’s a comment from her (via UGA-grad Mark Schlabach on ESPN.com) to help prove my point:’
“I liked Notre Dame,” Bartlett said. “I just felt like Notre Dame had more to offer him in the long run. I liked Georgia Tech, but I feel like it’s more regional. Notre Dame is internationally [known], and I thought it had more to offer him. I wanted him to branch out and learn life. I didn’t feel like he’d learn anything being so close to home.”
I never knew GT grads learned nothing and never “branched-out” after graduating……
GTJACKET
January 7th, 2013
12:59 pm
Ken, I have a question that might lead to a column. There seems to have been a large number of head coaches in the NFL and NCAA that have GT connections. Many coached or played under Rodgers, O’leary, Ross, Curry, Gailey and Johnson. I can think of: Marrone (O’leary), O’leary and Friedgen (under Ross), Spurrier (under Rodgers), Whisenhutt (played for Curry), Bill O’brien (under O’leary), Roof (played for Curry and coached under O’leary), Jeff Monken (Johnson), Glenn Sencer (played at Tech). I am sure there are many. It seemed that Ross had a lot of head coaches on that staff and so did O’leary. Any chance you could do some research on that connection of head coaches that have passed through Tech or Tech coaches? Thanks you do a great job.
Jim 70
January 7th, 2013
1:02 pm
Kelly would be good – hard to hold the first three or four games against him. But like the fact that cpj isn’t automatically giving him the job. Need to see who else is available, especially with all of the head coaching changes in both the pro’s and colleges. Many dc’s probably on the job hunt.
GT Fan
January 7th, 2013
1:02 pm
Whoever the next DC is let’s just hope the D plays like it did the past 6 qtrs on a far more consistent basis!
GT Fan
January 7th, 2013
1:08 pm
How well did the D play in the Sun Bowl w/o it’s leading tackler?
Has I.Johnson become a “Wally Pip”?
Has Jamal Golden become IJ’s “Lou Gehrig”?
Has Chris Milton earned a legit shot come Spring/Summer to replace IJ or another in the Dbackfield?
The D played extremely fast and hit hard the past 2 games.
ramblingbuzz
January 7th, 2013
1:13 pm
I figure Kelly has the inside track unless Johnson can hire an up and coming D coach.
KG
January 7th, 2013
1:14 pm
@Tech Forever
Lance would kill CPJ with his bare hands! I’d love to have LT but their personalities wouldn’t work.. LT is hands down the best recruiter in FB, it sucks it that it wouldn’t work due to CPJs arrogance.
ramblingbuzz
January 7th, 2013
1:14 pm
Don’t think GT has the budget to pay for a big name D coordinator.
GT Fan
January 7th, 2013
1:19 pm
Does GT need all the negative publicity surrounding this Lance Thompson guy? Didn’t he recently get stripped of all his Tour de France titles?
GTBob
January 7th, 2013
1:21 pm
I don’t see why in the world this is taking so long unless CPJ is considering an assistant pro coach for a team that is still playing or an Alabama or Notre Dame assistant. Getting a defensive coordinator shouldn’t be a task that takes months to accomplish.
4th and Long Gone
January 7th, 2013
1:26 pm
Lance Thompson, Ron Zook, or Gene Chizik ? Definitely need someone who can recruit as well as coach. I appreciate Kelly, but it is hard to tell how good the defense was vs the wind and the USC backup quarterback.
James Munlyn
January 7th, 2013
1:29 pm
Should have hired Ellis Johnson
4th and Long Gone
January 7th, 2013
1:29 pm
@ KG. Not sure why you say it wouldn’t work with Lance Thompson due to CPJ’s arrogance. One of the main criticisms of CPJ is that he wants a DC that he can just turn everything over to and he will worry just about his offense. Now, if Lance Thompson tries to tell him how to run his offense, then I might agree. But if the defense is working, I don’t think CPJ will bother him at all.
GT in GoldTown
January 7th, 2013
1:32 pm
Kelly did great, but we need fresh blood
4th and Long Gone
January 7th, 2013
1:36 pm
Perhaps Brian Jean-Mary? Previously at Tech, now at Louisville. Or Vance Bedford, DC at Louisville, but not sure he would leave right now, since Strong just re-upped.
Rezner74
January 7th, 2013
1:41 pm
Vangorder..
Rezner74
January 7th, 2013
1:41 pm
Vangorder..
Rezner74
January 7th, 2013
1:41 pm
Vangorder..
crackbaby
January 7th, 2013
1:42 pm
A vote for Dave Aranda – proven record of + turnover margins with marginally talented teams. 2012 NCAA No. 8 defense at Utah State.
He is following Gary Anderson to Wisconsin so maybe reaching a little (weather sure is nicer in the south, Coach Dave
ignition
January 7th, 2013
1:56 pm
Tech’s rumored budget is around $400,000 so unless these candidates people are throwing around are willing to take a pay cut I don’t see a Lance Thompson, Brian Jean-Mary, or someone on another teams staff. That’s unrealistic anyway.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 7th, 2013
1:59 pm
Maybe I am naive, but I really don’t think budget is a problem. Yes, as a whole, the Tech athletic department is not doing that well financially right now, but there IS money out there; there are several wealthy alums who have in the past, and I would bet are now, willing to foot the bill. Taz Anderson comes to mind.
yeller bug
January 7th, 2013
2:00 pm
We actually have 2 needs—a DC and a great recruiting coach—actually think the recruiting aspect is more important than the DC slot as Kelly at least proved adequate as interim DC. Many have said Giff Smith is a great coach and recruiter, and above Tech forever said Lance Thompson…..don’t know him, but either find a great recruiter or a great DC….if the former then keep Kelly as DC, if the latter, then keep Kelly—perhaps asst head coach. Maybe there’s a candidate that fits both—that’s the gold nugget, but doubt we can discover that with perhaps the limited budget that we have.
The DC slot is a great opportunity as pointed out, CPJ wants to delegate it completely and not have problems with it—can’t ask for a better opportunity than that.
Paddy
January 7th, 2013
2:01 pm
No on Vangorder. His rep has taken a big hit w/ messes at Ga Southern, Falcons and AU.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 7th, 2013
2:02 pm
Groh couldn’t have asked for a better setup. He was given complete reigns over the D, and Johnson only stepped in at the end when it was obvious things were not going to improve. I would think any defensive coach would kill for a setup like that, assuming the money is there. Johnson DOES CARE about the D; he just wants somebody else to handle it for him, so he doesn’t have to worry about it.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 7th, 2013
2:04 pm
I guess that should have been complete REINS, not REIGNS, although if he has the reins, he reigns as well. lol
ignition
January 7th, 2013
2:10 pm
I would love to have Utah St.’s D coordinator (but he’s in a better position now)
Other realistic candidates in my opinion are Fresno St.’s D coordinator Nick Toth
Western Kentucky’s old coordinator Lance Guidry
Alabama’s D-Line coach Chris Rumph
ect.
Tech77
January 7th, 2013
2:14 pm
Hire Ed Orgeoron from USC.
Hands down THE best recruiter out there.
Nativebird
January 7th, 2013
2:16 pm
Deck chairs on the Titanic. sad that such a great University and storied football program has to put up with yet another season of this idiot jerk In charge. I hope y’all are happy fellow jacket fans. Get ready for yet another 6-6 season and a suk-trash bowl game. Yippee.
GT = WIDE RECEIVER U
January 7th, 2013
2:21 pm
Chris Rumph to GT…..waiting on Bama to finish the season before offering him the job.
4th and Long Gone
January 7th, 2013
2:23 pm
@ignition: Even if $400k is the salary limit, do you really think coaches who are not already coordinators make more than that? Yes, thanks to UGA (not being able to get a coordinator and them having to keep upping the salary to get one to bite), defensive coordinators at top SEC schools now make $800k. But I don’t think the same holds true for the “regular” coaches. The last thing I saw on coaches salaries, they were in the $100k – $200k range. So while I understand that a coordinator at a major school might not want to swap, you don’t think a position coach wouldn’t jump at the chance to become a coordinator? Even it they viewed it as a stepping stone to one of the $800k jobs, I can’t imagine too many turning it down. (Neither Lance Thompson nor Brian Jean-Mary are coordinators at their current school…)
Supersize that order, mutt
January 7th, 2013
2:28 pm
@ Nativebird……if you don’t like it, then go somewhere else. Tech will be fine if Johnson finds the right DC.
Stinger 1
January 7th, 2013
2:53 pm
Nativebird needs to sign off and go take a powder. Useless as a GT fan if he is indeed one.
Hawkk
January 7th, 2013
3:05 pm
Is it too late to get a new Head Coach as well?
Is it too late to get a new Head Coach as well?
Al Groh
January 7th, 2013
3:26 pm
*ahem*
JM
January 7th, 2013
3:51 pm
glad to hear Coach Kelley is in consideration. I think he’d do a fine job. I’d love to know who the other 3-4 candidates are.
GT
January 7th, 2013
4:09 pm
Could you hire somebody like Gene Chizik without him having to give up his settlement to Auburn. A win win situation plus he recruited in the same area. I really like Kelly the last couple of games, but he must be talking to other people for a reason.
Home Crowd
January 7th, 2013
4:17 pm
CPJ is taking forever on this decision because this hire will make or break his tenure with GT. It’s that simple. This will be the most critical hire he’s ever had to make, so I don’t blame him for exhausting all options until he feels more than comfortable hiring someone.
www
January 7th, 2013
4:49 pm
how likely is it that kelly is made DC and tech brings in a young position coach that can recruit the state well?
www
January 7th, 2013
4:50 pm
ken, after the hire is made, i’d love to read about the search process and who else was considered.
fuzzybee78
January 7th, 2013
4:51 pm
Dave Womack- Strike one
Al Groh – Strike Two
This hire has to be a home run and we all know it. I believe CPJ will make a deliberate and thoughtful search for a guy who can coach up who we got, recruit who we dont got, and stick around hopefully more than 2 years.
Full Metal Jacket
January 7th, 2013
4:59 pm
CPJ is doing the right thing by actively interviewing and considering worthy applicants, even though it would seem that Kelly should have an inside line on the position since CPJ did nothing about the search during the critical holiday hiring / recruiting period. He had said he had someone, or at least an idea, in mind back in December when everyone else was settling their coaching staffs. I would like to see Kelly get it, since he is a stabilizing and apparently loyal presence on the staff. At the same time, if CPJ has some interesting alternatives in mind it would be good to consider the options.
With Attachou and several other quality starters returning next season, Kelly might represent the quickest route to improvement and success.
Robnole
January 7th, 2013
5:18 pm
Word out of FSU is that Charles Kelly has just accepted to coach our linebackers. Sounds like Paul Johnson has decided not to go with Kelly and he is moving on.
Jacket Man
January 7th, 2013
5:21 pm
Happened last week.
yellowfever
January 7th, 2013
5:39 pm
whoever we get I hope we go back to a 4-3 defense.
dry dirt road
January 7th, 2013
5:55 pm
Why pick from a Poole of non-Tech players when you can pick from the Best? Maxie was a Tech LB, and the Tech Topics alum mag just mentioned that he was elected into the Pittsburgh Steelers Hall of Fame. He played for the Rams too. He was LB coach in ‘71-2 seasons. Glanville was secondary coach, Carson head coach. Tech could pick from the Best, their own, such as Swilling, Perdoni, Flowers, Bourne, Coleman, Claybrooks, Rogers. All these fellas were damn good players on the D, all either on the line or LBs. They might be a little old, except Rogers, but Tech wants to avoid age discrimination. Besides, “Buzz” was not the yj in ‘71-2, “Buzz” had not been created yet. The T-club’s yj on their jackets in ‘71-2 had veined wings, symbolic of male veins sticking out of arms b/c of muscules pushing them out. “Buzz” is a feminine, veinless-winged yj in my opinion, and I wish they would revert to the 60’s-70’s yj and to 6 physical training courses again, of which they require only one semester of one now during the Junior year. When I was a Freshman and Sophomore in ‘69-71 we were required to take 6 quarter courses, and if you could’nt pass them, you had to drop out of Tech, maybe transfer somewhere else. BTW, I developed a center vein in my upper arm during ‘71-3. I don’t own any “Buzz” feminine Tech clothing since I’m a male.
Old Dog
January 7th, 2013
6:03 pm
To Hell with Tek, today,tomorrow and every other day!
Jacket Man
January 7th, 2013
6:06 pm
Kelley’s office is already cleaned out…
Glad to see, Supersize......
January 7th, 2013
6:09 pm
…that you are back making rationale and well thought out suggestions – I was worried the last couple of weeks with all the negative stuff you were posting about everything…
I agree 100% with both your thoughts about the budget NOT being a consideration in hiring a DC, and that Groh WAS given complete autonomy to do his own thing with the D, which, as we all know now, did not turn out well at all! And, wasn’t he paid about $1mil to coach at Tech, or am I just thinking out loud?
now that Giff is availalble
January 7th, 2013
6:12 pm
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What’s Next for Georgia Tech? Choose Giff (Smith)
October 3, 2012 | 8:16 PM Comments: Comments Off
By Joseph Wyatt
After a crushing loss like the one Georgia Tech endured last Saturday the Yellow Jacket nation and local media have been taking stock of where the program is, where it should be and whether it can get there under the current management. Calls for the head of Al Groh and now even Paul Johnson have become louder. The same arguments that were made under former athletic director Dave Braine resurface that GT has a limitation and the type of success (or mediocrity as it were) under Chan Gailey is about where this program can expect to be. I’m here to tell you it’s a false premise, drastic changes are not needed and one only needs to do some quick investigation to find where things went off track and what can be done to maximize this program’s potential once again.
Paul Johnson has been as successful a coach in his 5 seasons at GT as anybody not named John Heisman, Bobby Dodd or Bobby Ross. So cutting him loose is an irrational option. But his success has tailed off since the end of the 1st half in Blacksburg in November 2010. You’ll remember that’s the moment Josh Nesbitt’s career ended at GT. That would seem to give credence to the argument that Johnson won with Gailey’s players. However, that ignores the majority of Gailey’s tenure where the program’s mediocrity was only matched by the mediocrity of the players recruited to it. But “what about Calvin Johnson?” you would say. It is well known that Calvin wanted to be an engineer and was from the Atlanta area. So GT had a great chance of getting him regardless of who was coaching there. Well then, “what about Jonathan Dwyer, Roddy Jones, Morgan Burnett, Derrick Morgan, Demaryius Thomas?” you’d say. But I don’t consider that group of players to be Gailey recruits. I’ll come back to this in a moment.
One of the strengths of GT’s defense in recent times was the defensive line. It was not that long ago that GT fielded a defensive line that contained four future NFL players. DE’s Michael Johnson and Derrick Morgan along with DT’s Vance Walker and Daryl Richard were a force. Morgan was the last one left in 2009 and he was the ACC Defensive Player of the Year. But GT hasn’t developed a difference maker on the defensive line since.
So what do these two things have in common? Giff Smith. Smith was the defensive line coach from 2004-2009. So that all time line I mentioned above, along with All-ACC performers like Eric Henderson, Joe Anoai and Adamm Oliver were coached and developed by Smith. In addition, Smith became the recruiting coordinator for GT in 2006. By his second recruiting season, he brought in the single greatest recruiting class in GT history. Smith had great relationships in the state of Georgia among the high schools and knew how to create a sense of community among the recruits. That’s why I don’t call those guys Gailey’s recruits.
In January 2010, Giff Smith decided to take the defensive line coaching job with the Buffalo Bills, reuniting with Gailey. What event immediately preceded his departure? The hiring of Al Groh as defensive coordinator. I have no idea if Smith was ever interviewed or considered for the job or if he didn’t see himself as a fit to coach DL in a 3-4 scheme. But I do know Smith wants to be a head coach one day. Getting a coordinator job would seem to have been a logical next step for him.
That was the moment GT lost its best recruiter and its best position coach. Who knows maybe the past two years would have been different. Paul Johnson has lifted GT’s offense to as high a level as it has ever been. The offense, for all its built in disadvantages, is one that can continue to succeed in the ACC. So I think he has earned the right to remain head coach here. But wouldn’t it be interesting to see where GT could take its program if they could once again marry Johnson’s offense with Giff Smith’s recruiting and ability to develop NFL quality defensive players? I seem to recall a local team that had some success hiring an NFL defensive line coach, but the team escapes me at this point. Smith worked with Johnson at Georgia Southern, so presumably they have a relationship beyond the two years overlap at GT. In my opinion this is a realistic idea that could reinvigorate the program. We saw what the combination did in 2008-2009. I’d choose Giff.
ignition
January 7th, 2013
6:25 pm
Wow if Kelly has already left, that will for sure hurt recruiting since he was the main recruiter for many of our big recruits.
ignition
January 7th, 2013
6:30 pm
And so it seems Charles Kelly is gone … To FSU no less.. That hurts recruiting.
https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/s…96748295135232
GT Lee
January 7th, 2013
6:42 pm
Here’s the link I found…..
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2013/1/7/3848394/charles-kelly-florida-state-linebacker-coach-fsu-georgia-tech
yeller bug
January 7th, 2013
6:44 pm
Wow—we better have Giff Smith in the bag then. Kelly was our best recruiter…..CPJ better pull a diamond out his arse or he’ll be next to go. Pretty deep analysis above—sounds legit—Giff would be a great grab—hope the money is there.
1 4 GT
January 7th, 2013
6:46 pm
Y’all will pardon me if I wait for an official announcement on any coaching changes before swallowing some trolls post hook, line & sinker!
Real Jacket
January 7th, 2013
6:53 pm
My source said that he will be leaving for FSU on Wednesday. He said GT was dragging their feet and he is getting a good raise and will have a much easier time recruiting. I was hoping that he would get the hire.
Jacket Man
January 7th, 2013
6:53 pm
Giff Smith is one of the worst position coaches available and he only had one really decent class that came on board when he was on campus. In fact, on average Paul Johnson’s classes have been as good as, or better, than those when Giff was the “Recruiting Coordinator” for GA Tech.
As a position coach at Buffalo, he has been blamed for taking two All Pro’s on their defensive line and basically making them irrelevant, which caused the Bill defense to pretty much tank this past season.
Jacket Man
January 7th, 2013
6:57 pm
Kelly isn’t leaving Tech because they were “dragging their feet”…in fact, he was in line to get the DC job. He’s leaving because he wants to be closer to his family in Alabama and he just felt like he’s been at GA Tech too long (he was a holdover from Chan Gailey) and didn’t want to be pigeon-holed into a one-school resume in the event he wants to become a head football coach some day. He’s also a long-time friend of Jimbo.
Tech93
January 7th, 2013
7:01 pm
Does anyone no for sure who Tech is interviewing for DC?
Real Jacket
January 7th, 2013
7:02 pm
I do not think you are correct on that.
ignition
January 7th, 2013
7:20 pm
@ Jacket Man I completely agree with you on Giff Smith, I haven’t seen anything that would suggest to me that he would be a good but, well who are the candidates ??
GTFAN123
January 7th, 2013
7:21 pm
doesn’t look like it will be Kelly, Rivals is reporting he is headed to FSU
GT Librarian
January 7th, 2013
7:23 pm
why not the mich state DC in the recap of their win over TCU I believe it said they won several of their games by 17 points or fewer and won their bowl game by 17-16 pretty good defense if you ask me
GT Librarian
January 7th, 2013
7:31 pm
mich state was 4th in defense and 10th in scoring defense so it might be a good pickup
Tech93
January 7th, 2013
7:33 pm
With the alumni we have that love GT football I believe a few heavy hitters are willing to pony up a couple hundred thousand a year to get a big name DC in here. I don’t know if CPJ would be secure enough for a highly touted DC to get job. Giff Smith is not the answer!
ignition
January 7th, 2013
7:38 pm
I don’t think CPJ cares who is running the defense as long as the defense is good, to his detriment actually. I don’t think Tech has the money to fork over for a big name DC or to steal a DC from a big school like Mich St.
Tech has all the money they need...
January 7th, 2013
7:45 pm
…but why leave a job like Mich State for GT – just seems like a no brainer to stay at Mich State, to me…Big 120 football (big 14?) is way better, financially speaking, than ACC football…
Tokyo jacket
January 7th, 2013
7:58 pm
I think anyone hoping to lure a DC from a BCS conference with money is not living in reality. It’s not just money, it’s situation. I think a lot of DCs would enjoy total ownership of the defense as well as the fact that they will likely only have to play D for 27 minutes per game. But, we don’t have the cache that we used to.
If we can get a guy like Giff Smith, he’s our best bet. Can he recruit? Check. Can he produce a talented D-line? Check. Does he have a connection to the school and CPJ? Check. Remember we don’t need a top 25 D. We need a top 50 D and we can bank 9 wins a year. Defense is much more about Jimmies and Joes than Xs and Os! We need someone to start landing the Jimmies and Joes…and also develop Gotsis, Kallon, Gamble, and Greene. We’ve got some solid D-line talent, we just have to develop it.
Joe
January 7th, 2013
8:00 pm
It’s time to replace heads coach Johnson. Tech backed into the Sun Bowl. Tech continues to be just ok. Time to make a statement. No glory days ,like the Tech teams of bygone days. Don’t care for Johnson’s attitude. Lets win and fill Grant Field with fans.
Tech93
January 7th, 2013
8:01 pm
I’m sorry, but you do need a top 25 defense to compete. Offense wins games but Defense wins championships!
1 4 GT
January 7th, 2013
9:59 pm
If McCarron & Saban return to Bammer next year, Georgie will be a bridesmaid again….if they Murray & Georgie survive their schedule next season. Bammer & Saban has now won 3 out the last 4 BCS trophies. Break ‘em up!
1 4 GT
January 7th, 2013
10:26 pm
After watching one half of the Bama/ND game, I’ll say this for Georgie. They had to have played the best game of their lives in the SECCG to have come as close as they did to winning. If CMR or AM had only been smart enough to spike the ball at the end and get a play set up, maybe………….they overachieved as it was. Bama had this game won after the 1st quarter. T A&M overachieved too! It will take one hell of a team to beat Bama next season too!
Freddie Blassie
January 8th, 2013
12:40 pm
It is rare that in my several years on this planet that I have a good idea, so I offer this incredibly bad idea for Coach Johnson:
hire the tanned and rested Jerry Glanville as defensive coordinator! He’s back in Atlanta, folks.
Glanville was the freshman coach at Georgia Tech “I’d tell ‘em the Regency Hyatt House was the freshman dorm.”
Glanville was a great recruiter: “Georgia Tech has the finest Forestry School in the nation!”
Is Glanville as crazy as a March hare? Definitely!
Would there be constant NCAA scrutiny? Oh yeah!
Would he and CPJ get along? Of course not!
Does Glanville have baggage? Think Cleopatra.
Can he recruit? Can he coach some D? Check and doublecheck!
Would Glanville be a distraction? From what, giving up 40 points a game? It would be a welcome one.
What’s the worst thing that could happen (other than lose eleven games and get the death penalty)?
That’s what I’m talking about.
That would be more fun than smearing Gorgeous George’s mascara down at the old Municipal Auditorium on a Saturday night!