They will carry the banner for Georgia Tech in autumns to come. This year, most of Georgia Tech’s 2012 signing class carried out scout-team assignments to prep the first- and second-string Yellow Jackets.
A handful have made an impression on their teammates with their ability and promise. Four of Tech’s 17-member class played this season – wide receiver Anthony Autry, defensive lineman Adam Gotsis, punter Ryan Rodwell and defensive back D.J. White. Of the other 13, the following five redshirting freshmen were repeatedly identified by players and coaches for having stood out on the practice field.
Said quarterback Tevin Washington, “He’s going to be a real special player.”
Both starting safeties, Isaiah Johnson and Jemea Thomas, will return next season, although Thomas could return to corner. Holton and Griffin will be in the mix with Chris Milton, Demond Smith and Coray Carlson.
“Pat sticks out more just because he’s strong, he’s quick,” A-back Orwin Smith said. “He flies around.”
Like all the freshmen, Gamble will begin his first full offseason in the strength and conditioning program and figures to add weight and strength. Smith said that if he and fellow freshman lineman Francis Kallon can develop a more tenacious style, “they can bring some damage to some teams.”
With nose tackle T.J. Barnes and end Izaan Cross graduating, spots will be open in the line rotation for Gamble, Kallon and others.
“Mike, he has great hands, he can catch the ball really well,” he said. “I can’t wait till he starts playing.”
Summers (6-1, 190) and fellow freshman receivers Travin Henry and Autry, both rehabilitating knee injuries, should be ready to compete with Darren Waller and Jeremy Moore next season.
“He might not look like it, but Mike is an athlete,” Sims said.
“I don’t go against Freddie a lot, but he’s quick for his size,” Cross said. “He needs to get a little bit stronger, but he’s very quick for his size. Quick feet.”
Burden (6-3, 292), who figures to back up Jay Finch next season for Finch’s senior season, could have played this season, Attaochu said.
“He’s a competitor,” Attaochu said. “He’s pretty legit.”
“I really don’t know who’s fastest (on the team),” Attaochu said, “but he’s pretty quick, elusive.”
Thomas (5-11, 169) has been impressing teammates since he arrived last summer, back when he stung receivers’ hands with zipped passes in seven-on-seven drills. He’ll compete with quarterback Vad Lee in the spring for the starting job.
“I actually think (Lee) and Justin are going to be fun, watching them in the spring next year,” Sims said, “because Justin is electric.”
In case you missed it…
Sun Bowl gifts include hair dryer (again)
Notes: Johnson, Barkley out for bowl
Some highlights, but special teams still lag
After forgettable season, Young can start fresh
Tech 2008 signing class delivers in classroom
USC’s Barkley reportedly unlikely to play
Notes: Successful career for Tech long snapper
Orwin Smith tries for strong finish
35 football players make dean’s list
Thanks for reading.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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cw
December 28th, 2012
3:00 pm
First
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December 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
^ pointless comment. anyway, glad to see there is some talent in the pipeline.
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BigGTMike
December 28th, 2012
3:41 pm
Can we check the tape measure that Gamble used for that 6′5″ measurement?
Paddy
December 28th, 2012
3:48 pm
BigGTMike………Just checked that Gamble tape, it is off. He is now 6′6″. Good eye, Mike!
BigTimeTECHFan
December 28th, 2012
4:02 pm
here they come, National championship is in Tech’s future.
Tech’s scout team was rated no 1 scout team in the country by insiders, they said that 70% of them could start for any other team in the country.
Nobody will be able to handle Gotsis, Gamble, Kallon. DJ While, M Allen, Jamal Golden, D Noble, Hunt-Days, McNair, Menocal, – will be best defense in the country
Buzzed
December 28th, 2012
4:33 pm
Seriously? We’re ranking scout teams now? They couldn’t start for 70% of the teams, you mean.
Ignition
December 28th, 2012
4:40 pm
Lol where did you make that up from ???
Flak Jacket
December 28th, 2012
5:13 pm
Pointless is correct.Jackets got to roll with it,don`t think about it too much,just win and go with it.
GTBob
December 28th, 2012
5:29 pm
Tech will beat USC !! Yeah….who would believe that..not even Paul Johnson! This is the worst Tech team in decades and the worst is yet to come!!
Wrecker
December 28th, 2012
5:35 pm
Didn’t take this one too long to go negative. It is good to see that there are some standout players on the way.
gt4ever
December 28th, 2012
5:53 pm
lol at bigtimetechfan… Started drinking early have we….
OldGold1964
December 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
Always a good sign to see that teammates (and current team leaders) with experience recognize the up-and-comers,,,,GT has potential talent, but it has to be developed and displayed under game conditions. And, did you notice how many have had progress slowed by injuries.
Alabama Jack
December 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Bob – you no longer can use GT. Just go by dawgie poo.
kevrock
December 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
Ken,
any info on former player of the year QB Timmy Byerly?
Ignition
December 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Bah
The game is played on the field versus an opponent.
Joe
December 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
If those kids are the most talked about scout teamers, then 2013 will be Paul Johnson’s last season at Tech. I am shocked that a couple of those guys got D1 schollies, much less to an ACC school, and to see that they are among the most talented Jackets speaks volumes for just how poorly Johnson has recruited.
Ho hum
December 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
I would have expected the youngsters to shine a bit – after all they are going against a somewhat weak group of starters that won only 6 games in a terrible conference. Most anybody would look good going against a bunch that lost to some pretty weak opponents. But keep your chins up techies – it can’t get any worse
Ho hum
December 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
On second thought I guess it actually can get worse
Booze Hound
December 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Please bring back George O’Leary while there’s still time.
how far we have fallen
December 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
It is really hard to fathom how far and how quick Tech has sunk, as far a players are concerned, I just got through with dinner as we were eating the bowl game with Va. Tech and Rutgers was on, my son and me made the same comments, Rutgers was throwing QB Logan Thomas around like a rag doll, the same Logan Thomas that was running down the field with 3,4 and even five jackets hanging on for dear life last time they were in Atlanta, I love Tech, always have, always will, but we look like a high school team on the field, rag dolls, we are so far below the size speed and strength of Uga, Clemson, VA Tech,, etc… as we conclude the 2012 season we can no longer compete with real football programs, we are in the batlle with Middle Tenn. State UAB et.al for recruits, the Paul Johnson experiment has all but concluded, I really had hoped he could do it, but alas he cannot,, It pains me to say it, but if you take away the Chan Gailey players, look at what CPJ has brought to Tech, and do not get me wrong, I like and respect any young man that comes to Tech, but it is about winning, and Ga. Tech is just plain pitiful…. I loath Uga, for what they stand for, or more to the point what they do NOT stand for, but we will be hard pressed to ever beat them again, I used to look so forward to watching the game and thinking that Tech could pull an upset, but I can no longer even watch, it is sad, we could give up 75 points to USC…… we should run the white flag up the flag pole, and apply to the Ivy league..
John Wayne
December 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
I honestly can’t believe what I’m hearing from you “fans”. Wave the white flag? Good grief. I don’t stand talking in the wind! Quit playing worlds smallest violin! Tech isn’t a bad football team. PJ has disappointed us, sure. But to say he can’t recruit is really ignorant. Look on rivals or scout, check out his recruiting classes and then Gailey’s. Besides 2007, PJ has done better. Please be my guess. He just needs to get better Defensive players.
GT fan
December 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Go Jackets, got to win this Bowl game….
how far we have fallen
December 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
we lost at home to BYU, we lost at home to MIDDLE TENN. STATE, THEY SCORED 49 POINTS ON US, UGA SCORED IN 2 OR 3 PLAYS, THEY COULD HAVE SCORED 80 POINTS AGAINST US…..
Supersize that order, mutt
December 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
@ John Wayne…..THANKS. FINALLY a voice of reason These sore-loser fans are sickening both in the way they have totally given up and their absurd way of thinking in general.
how far we have fallen
December 28th, 2012
11:08 pm
you hire a new coach, you give him the reins, total control, players, coaches, his system, and in his 5th, year, the year that should show the world what he can do, he now owns the program, all the players are his, they have all been recruited to play his system, this is his first redshirt senior class, and this is the best he can do, you keeps hiring these defensive coaches, PJ does, who offers these kids a free ride PJ does, if you did not see enough of the toss sweep against UGA and Fla State, with the tackles in the backfield. this system will not work against top teams, with really good players. it is not that we had a bad year, every body has those from time to time.. we got blown out by Middle Tenn. State, not that they beat us, they whipped us, from start to finish, .we for the most part are signing three star talent….. that will not cut it, just watch the sun bowl, and keep a record of the 5, 6, seven yard losses on that toss sweep, we are wretched……. and Tevins end over end passes, I went to see them play Duke at Duke in 1978 on the start of my honeymoon, Pepper Rodgers had a white hanky under his hat to protect from the sun, I was at the Notre Dame game in late 70’s when the fish came a flying out of the east stands upper deck, and Dan Devine pulled the irish off the field, I have seen it all, I have been around the world twice and seen everything but the wind, and I have seen Tech this outmaned, against real football teams…. IT IS OVER….
Coach
December 28th, 2012
11:11 pm
Exactly! A handful of malcontents dominate the blog. We’re in good shape and will be better.
5150 UOAD
December 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
I want to see Gotsis, Gamble and Kallon no the field all together. I think they will make a pretty good D-line. I would still prefer to go to the 4-3 too.
billyho55
December 28th, 2012
11:35 pm
Some of you guys sound like whiney little girls! If you knew anything at all about the sport of football you would be able to see the talent on this team for next year. This was one roller coaster year I admit, but there is HOPE people. All the “fans” who have jumped ship need to find another team to root for. This proud Institution needs not fans like you, neither do the players who bust their ass so “we” can have something to feel good about and poke our chests out a little more!
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
12:11 am
Actually, the toss sweep is probably the most consistently productive offensive play we run. Some of the options don’t always work, especially the dive play, but the toss sweep almost always gets yards.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
12:12 am
As far as the number of stars our recruits have, we have NEVER been loaded with 4 and 5-star players. NEVER NEVER NEVER !!!!!
5150 UOAD
December 29th, 2012
12:42 am
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The guys are having a good time I guess.
Ignition
December 29th, 2012
2:37 am
3-4 have proven to be stronger defenses statistically and they are better able to adjust to spread offenses.
Buzz 2011
December 29th, 2012
3:58 am
@GTBob……………….Is this guy a real bulldog or just aN artificial leghumper?
Go feed your dogs.. Bobby..
Iluvnutella
December 29th, 2012
7:49 am
Love my Jackets, but these guys couldnt break into starting lineup behind the T*U*R*D*S we have there now…….one more year of high school O, then the new AD will get a Big Boy football coach.
chas_jacket
December 29th, 2012
9:01 am
I was also there for the ND game with the flying fish and also the year where a putrid Florida team beat us for their only win of the season. This team is not the same, they could easily be 9&4 and heading back to the orange bowl with just a few plays. Vad should be solid next year and I see us trending up with a better offense and hopefully an improved defense.
5150 UOAD
December 29th, 2012
9:16 am
If TECH can get a great/good DEFENSE we will be winning the ACC. We need D speed and size like every team but with the right coach recruiting will happen and the play on the field will put TECH at the top of the ACC.
Smyrna Gold
December 29th, 2012
9:19 am
Yes, and with a decent schedule, we could have gone 3 – 9. Any way you spin it this team is pathetic.
5150 UOAD
December 29th, 2012
9:27 am
Taking Dad to the GT Bball game tonight. We just want to go see the new McCammish and see tech play a good game.
5150 UOAD
December 29th, 2012
9:33 am
Smyrna Gold go buy you some Bama Crimson or UGa Red & Black or Gator Blue & Orange to cheer for those Win At All Cost SEC teams. Better yet go enroll your child in UGa and let said child study Family & Child Development on your dime. You can be a Proud Parent of a Grad with no job prospects. I will cheer for a 6-6 tea of young men I can respect over a 10+ win team full of players I wouldn’t let cut my grass.
Ho hum
December 29th, 2012
9:38 am
5150 you my friend are delusional..
VT, N.C., NC St., Miami, Clemson are recruiting big fast players – Tek is recruiting small slow players and hoping to “coach them up”.
Winning the ACC on a regular basis (just winning one ACC title really) is nothing more than a fantasy.
Face it Tek is a second class program in a weak conference – stop hallucinating and simply enjoy your 6 or 7 wins each year Tek is irrelevant in the big picture of major college football.
Reading this article is nonsense. Measuring future players against what you have is laughable at best. Sure they look like studs – they are going against Div II type players everyday.
Let me also point out the futuility of your last comment – “If TECH can get a great/good DEFENSE” – are you off your meds. Tek (CPJ & staff) CAN’T get great / good DEFENSIVE players.
5150 UOAD
December 29th, 2012
9:56 am
hum a HO………….and you assessing the players with all of your playing experience makes me believe your opinion is better?
Ho hum
December 29th, 2012
10:03 am
Hey 5150 hw about we look at a few players from Tek that have recently made NFL teams.
Anthony Allen, Keith Brooking, Morgan Burnett, Tashard Choice, Kevin Cone, Mike Cox, Jonathan Dwyer, Andrew Economos, Keyaron Fox, Andrew Gardner, Gary Guyton, Will Heller, Stephen Hill, Calvin Johnson, Michael Johnson, Dawan Landry, Derrick Morgan, Daryl Smith, Demaryius Thomas, Vance Walker, Philip Wheeler.
I always read about the dumb UGA players and their weak majors but you are missing a big point. The ones that you label dumb etc have a higher than most chance to make it in the NFL. They have a future outside of the classroom. Many of them leave early (as did your stud players) and never finish school. What’s the shame in moving on to a chosen field?
Now back to the list of GT players that had NFL shots – HOW MANY OF THEM ARE ENGINEERS or ARCHITECTS? How many of them took the easiest curriculum at Tek? And most important how many of them GRADUATED?
Stop with the nonsensical arguments about the dumb football players (for a real eyeopener see Tek basketball) – you have more than a few “dumb” ones too. Fact is you have fewer simply because not many stud players want to attend a school that can’t even sell their football tickets,
Think about throwing rocks and living in glass houses
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
10:07 am
the most sad part to all this is that we no longer expect to beat Uga, we no longer expect to recruit with the big schools, let me ask you a sincere question would you be ok with this type of expectation level in any of level of a rich full life, would you allow your kids to year in and year out have low C;s and D’s and then one class a year get an A, would you allow your employees to have this kind of sucess rate at their job, name any other area in life where you would be ok with this level of so so. georgia tech asking for a bowl wavier. when you accept this 6-7 and try to look for the bright spots, aka the future, you are not living in as rush would say realville, years ago when Dave Braine said we should be happy with sporadic sucess on the football field I was livid, but in hindsight I guess he could read the pulse much better than I could, we are the walking dead, without the good sense to just fall down, watch what happens monday and keep dreaming………………
Ho hum
December 29th, 2012
10:10 am
5150 I never said I assessed players. Your assumption that I have no basis for an opinion may be way off the mark – you know nothing about me or what I have or haven’t done.
You missed my point completely. I said it is difficult to judge player talent when they are going up against no talent. Ever hear the expression – “hard to soar with the eagles when you are grounded in a flock of turkeys” it might be applicable
Jacket Man
December 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Why are you Tech fans “engaging” in “conversations” with people posing as Tech fans who are having conversations with themselves posting with other aliases? It’s VERY obvious what’s happening. Very disappointed in you guys; don’t feed the trolls.
Happy Holidays.
yellowfever
December 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Hey,how far we have fallen, I would rather be GT than freaking Auburn any day. Go pick on a team that has truly fallen.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
10:18 am
@ Ho hum……and that describes the UGA mutts to perfection. They are a bunch of turkeys trying to fly with the eagles of Bama and LSU and South Carolina. THWG !!!
5150 UOAD
December 29th, 2012
10:21 am
hum a Ho…………HOW can you assess TECH players you have NEVER SEEN and you are not at practices? Practices are CLOSED so how can you judge a kid you have NEVER SEEN play a college game?
Ho Hum
December 29th, 2012
10:27 am
Like any good dog, I drink out of toilets, h u m p legs, and eat poo. But only when I’m drunk.
hum that ho
December 29th, 2012
10:27 am
@ UOAD……didn’t you know that ho hummer is the greatest football mind of our times? All the coaches in every school in the US come to him for advise because of his incredible knowledge and expertise. We should all bow before him in praise and adulation. The problem is it’s hard to stoop so low as to bow to someone already on his knees humming.
Ho hum
December 29th, 2012
10:35 am
5150 I will type this slowly with the hope that it penetrates your incredibly thick skull.
The entire article talked about the promise of better days ahead. A promise based on comments from current players.
You are correct I haven’t seen these alleged young studs but I have seen the current players take the field – in a word they suck. So that is what I base my assessment on – mediocre players telling us how good the younger guys look – not hard is it?
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
10:36 am
2008 pj yr #1- 9-4 (very few of his players) 2009 pj yr #2- 11-3 (some of his players still good bit of chan’s) 2010 pj yr #3- 6-7 (now we get into his players) 2011 pj yr #4- 11-5 ( wow a winning season! Dave Braine was right !!!!) 2012 pj yr #5- 6-7 ( his showcase year his fith year red shirt seniors …
Ho hum
December 29th, 2012
10:37 am
I love it when I hit a nerve and the techies resort to childish drivel and name stealing. Keep it up – you are proving my point……………………….
Ho Hum
December 29th, 2012
10:42 am
My mother taught me how to bark like a dog.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
10:44 am
CPJ first two years with most all the players from Chan Tech goes 20-7 … next three years with his players CPJ goes 20-19………. and to me it is not just the record, better teams do get upset from time to time I get that I have played sports. but we look like 11 punters out there trying to arm tackle with the lone exception of #45…… why was Gailey so hated and CPJ seems to do great, we are in a free fall and everybody says it is going good ergo even great….. get your heads out of the sand, we could not win at Div. 2 with this talent, Ga southern gave Uga a better game than we did……
wrecked
December 29th, 2012
10:47 am
John Wayne, I suggest you look at the players Gailey recruited and developed compared to what PJ has done during his tenure. In year 5 under Gailey tech had 7 players on all Acc 1st and 2nd team and 2 All Americans. Take a look at the rosters from 2007 and the roster of 2012 and tell me which has the most talent. Gailey never had a losing season playing tougher schedules.In case you haven’t noticed PJ has 2 losing seasons out of the past 3. If we use your argument that PJ has recruited better than Gailey , then we should conclude Gaileys staff did a better job of developing players. PJ is in way over his head, the longer he stays at tech the further the program will sink.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
10:47 am
note correction on above CPJ year # 2011 we go 8-5 ( I wrote 11-5 wishful thinking,)
Exterminator
December 29th, 2012
10:55 am
Be advised that you are out of touch with reality if you feel Tech will thrive with a new defensive coordinator or when the scout team hits the field. The dwindling level of talent has them moving towards Duke and away from the top of even a weak conference like the ACC. I can assure you that Dawg fans want CPJ to stay at Tech for a long time. It makes it a mere scrimmage before the SEC Championship Game.
Go ahead, call me a troll or leg humper, whatever but failing to accept what is clear to he eye will lead to many years of bad football. Oh and 5150 UOAD spare me the Tech has better men crap. As most of these guys would be Walk ons at UGA then you should only be able to compare Tech GPA’s to UGA walk on GPA’S.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
11:00 am
most of you guys are missing the big picture,I would never want or accept the junk that goes on in Athens, I think CMR learned well from bobby bowden, just run them through school and keep cashing the checks, it is all about winning. I loath Uga and their win at all cost, I am not saying Tech go down that path, I would not pull for Tech if we did that, but I cannot understand how we accept mediocrity so well… it is not that we cannot go 11-0 any more, it is that we cannot truly compete with schools that we used to be on equal footing with.. If Stanford can do it, why can’t GA TECH ?????
Home Crowd
December 29th, 2012
11:11 am
You faithful fans who think us “bandwagon” fans are bad fans for jumping ship and giving up on CPJ…well, there comes a time to jump ship and give up. We are the smart fans who want to live another day. There’s no honor in sticking with a crummy coach year in and year out. We’ve given CPJ 4 years and he’s gotten us no where. When my ship is no longer floating, time to swim.
Exterminator
December 29th, 2012
11:14 am
How far fallen
When Tech did win they did it with players that UGA also recruited. Calvin, Burnett, Morgan, Johnson, Dwyer, etc. Some were good students, some not. It’s about football Though because if CPJ graduates well and what not he will still be fired when his subpar recruits lose. His poor recruiting is a direct result of his offensive system which worked better with talented running backs. Defensive recruits do not want to practice against the cut block and a top defensive back at Tech is a pipe dream. How can you get better practicing against Tevin every day.
You should loath UGA cause they are gonna be kicking that ass for years to come.
Exterminator
December 29th, 2012
11:19 am
Anyone on here know what the longest tenured coach at Tech has been since Bobby Dodd. Seems to b a position of high turnover
GB's Hamburgers
December 29th, 2012
12:03 pm
It’s nice to see there’s still a lot of hopeful Tech fans. I believe the long term solution for the program is to get back into the SEC. That would put meaningful games back on the schedule and folks into the stands. It would help with recruiting as well. I believe the NCAA will eventually outlaw the cut-blocking Johnson offense so Tech will have to suffer some down years to restock with actual football players. Congrats on the academic achievement of this current team.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
12:16 pm
@ GB……..The SEC, and especially UGA will NEVER vote to let Tech back in the SEC.
Jacket Detective
December 29th, 2012
12:28 pm
If your school is in the ACC – except for Clemson – you will probably have a better basketball program.
We finally have a basketball coach who has shown he can both recruit and coach.
I”m considering switching season ticket holder status from football to basketball.
Maybe the sky is not the limit for basketball but it is a good bit higher than for football.
The news is good for basketball and keeps getting better.
Those on here who are actually Tech fans, stop your whinning and go see some BB games.
John Wayne
December 29th, 2012
12:44 pm
wrecked,
And what exactly did Gailey do with that great 2007 class? Nothing! Lose to a horrible Maryland and Virginia team. Lose to UGA and Virginia Tech and Boston College. PJ comes in and boom, we beat UGA and win the ACC the next year. Yea, PJ doesn’t know how to develop talent. Moron.
ignition
December 29th, 2012
1:09 pm
It’s all about the defense !!!!
Exterminator
December 29th, 2012
1:18 pm
CPJ develops players just fine. Can’t make diamonds out of manure. The question is not what the SEC would do for Tech (it would do wonders) but what Tech would bring to the SEC (not much).
Jacket Detective
December 29th, 2012
1:26 pm
I’m not happy with the football program but CPJ deserves another year.
A lot of the gripping is due to – not just to the last three years – but to the all the years since Dodd (1966). Ross’s five years, for example, consisted of one great year, one good year and three crummy years. Even the great year did not achieve a BCS bowl game. The players Ross inherited from Curry were not as bad as their record.
Had VT sacked Beamer during his crummy first six years, Beamer Ball never would have been invented.
My point is Johnson might have to change the name of the TO to Quad-O if either or both of the promising QBs can pass like we think they can.
Since Dodd, the program has fallen before and gotten up.
It might have been cheaper to match whatever the Chargers offered Ross.
And found out if that one great year was just a fluke or a trend.
Smyrna Gold
December 29th, 2012
1:33 pm
Worst thing to ever happen to the Tech program was to beat UGA in 2008. If not for that win, CPJ would be gone. But, I’m sure as soon as we get a new AD and a top notch DC there will be brighter days ahead. Maybe we’ll be able to whip up on MTSU, Air Force, BYU. Idaho, Agnes Scott, et al.
wrecked
December 29th, 2012
1:57 pm
No John Wayne you are the moron, look at the players Johnson has recruited and developed , compared to what Gailey did..PJs 20-19 playing with mostly his player. Plus Gailey had to recruit while on probation with scholarship reductions. Gailey would’ve had just as much success if not more than Johnson did playing with his recruits. Cahn had 7 1st and 2nd team all acc players his 5 year , all his recruits, how many did PJ have this season ? You only need my middle finger to count how many were placed on the team by this staff.
wrecked
December 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
Jacket Detective, Beamer didn’t inherit a roster with 8 players that would be drafted in his 1st 2 seasons like PJ did.
Just Saying
December 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
Just a few comments about the present GT football program. First of all I believe that CPJ is a fairly good coach but there are a few things missing from his scheme. The triple option offense is very difficult to contain when the best players are placed in the correct positions. One needs to go back and take a look at what Tom Osborne did at Nebraska back in the early to mid 1990s. What enabled those teams to become so dominate with the triple option offense? Well, a very fast, physical and suffocating defense comes to mind. GT is extremely lacking in that regard. Also a big, fast and strong offensive line. GT is also lacking in that regard despite their dangerous habit of cut blocking (which I pesonally hate and do not think that Osborne ever used). Finally, a very quick and efficient special teams unit that plays an important part in any game. Again, GT is lacking in that regard as well. The bottom line is that CPJ is not capable of attracting the players to make his ‘nobody has ever stopped my offense’ team winners. CPJ obviously does not give a rat’s behind about defense and it has caught up with him. It is also very difficult to attract 4 & 5 star players to compete in college with a non-pro style offense. Hey – it worked while CPJ was at Navy but he has lately run out of ‘options’. Good luck in the bowl game and let’s hope that USCw gets stomped!!
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
@ Just Saying……it may interest you to know that when Erk Russell hired CPJ as an assistant at Ga Southern, he was hired as defensive coordinator. So for you to say he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about defense is totally incorrect. He took a calculated gamble on Al Groh, and it did not pay off; those things happen. I think and I HOPE that he will hire the best DC he can find to come in and build the kind of defense we need.
Highly Respected Southern Troll
December 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Paul Johnson was NEVER defensive coordinator at Georgia Southern.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
He may not have been the defensive COORDINATOR (although that is what I was told), but he DEFINITELY coached defense under Erk Russell before he coached the offense
Highly Respected Southern Troll
December 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
In other words, you were wrong as usual.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
no, I was not wrong. I posted what I was told by a sports writer in the state of Georgia who has long followed Ga Southern football. If I was wrong, it is because he was wrong, and I highly doubt that
wrecked
December 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
Supersize, That was what 28-30 years ago when PJ wasn’t the Defensive coordinator at Southern he was the D line coach for 1 season. Pj’s biggest problem is he’d never coached at a big time football program before being hired at Tech. His inexperience coaching on this level is obvious, His glaring inability to recruit players to compete with the better teams on the schedule to his poor performance in player development. Losing to MTSU at home would be one thing , but getting blown out at home and losing 3 other games by 17 points or more is a sign of much deeper seeded problems. Pj needs to clean house and hire some coaches with the experience he lacks or Tech needs to fire PJ and bring in someone that can.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
This is what I was told: “Johnson’s first job at Ga Southern was as defensive coordinator. Erk Russell, although he knew that Johnson’s forte was offense, wanted him to coach defense, because he figured that in doing so, Johnson could learn ways to make his offensive skills even better.”
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
we stink, no we do not just stink, we stink on ice….. happy new year…..
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
@ wrecked…..I agree that Johnson may indeed need to clean house, certainly on defense. I think Kelly has probably done a pretty good job since Groh was fired, but he should in no way be considered for permanent DC. And I don’t think that he will.
Highly Respected Southern Troll
December 29th, 2012
4:26 pm
@wrecked – Don’t you understand? Supersize was “told” something so it HAS to be true.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
I think the Bart Simpson every kid gets a trophy day must have been stolen from Ga Tech. five years into his job, and we are saying if we could just get a good definsive coach,and maybe some new ass. coachs, sometimes you need to evaluate the evaluator…………just saying……………..
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
@ Troll……so we are supposed to believe you because you say I am wrong??? What’s wrong with that picture. You said Johnson was never DC at Southern; my friend said he was. I quoted what he told me. What is your source?
Highly Respected Southern Troll
December 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
Johnson doesn’t need to clean house. Johnson needs to be fired.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
@ fallen…..don’t you remember when Richt fired Martinez because after all the years Richt had been at UGA, he still didn’t have a decent defense? What’s the difference?
Highly Respected Southern Troll
December 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
@Supersize – You really get tiresome. Johnson himself said he was never a DC during a press conference earlier in the season. Plus, the ramblinwreck website states he was defensive line coach at Southern.
gt40pinhd
December 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
of all the complaints about pj’s TO offense, name me another one that can average 35 points a game?
yeah, he got groh for defense. seemed like a wise choice. big name. success. everything you’d want in a DC. as we know, it didn’t work out. given our ball control offense, this should be a no brainer for a good DC.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:50 pm
@ Troll……if that’s what Johnson said, then so be it; I was not aware he had made that statement. Also if that website indicates he was a D-line coach, then that must be correct as well. The point that I was trying to make though is that he DOES have experience coaching defense, so for “Just Saying” to say that Johnson doesn’t care about defense is simply not true.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
Why won’t the filters let me type the word r i d i c u l o u s with no spaces in it?
Highly Respected Southern Troll
December 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
Yeah Johnson’s offense is really a juggernaut. Three points (and 157 yards) against BYU, three points against UGA until they put the scrubs in midway through the fourth quarter, seven points in the second-half against Middle Tennessee State, zero points in overtime games, fifteen points in the ACC Championship game this year, an average of eight points a game against the first three bowl opponents (LSU, Iowa, and Air Force), etc. It does look nice against Kansas and Presbyterian, though. I will give you that.
Smyrna Gold
December 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
I think Tech should hire Supersize as the new AD and publicity director. He always make CPJ sound like a Saban and the defense and all the other short comings of this program sound like the Falcons.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:04 pm
@ Troll….when the players don’t come to play, NO offense will work. Just look at Va Tech last night. Lowly Rutgers manhandled Logan Thomas for the majority of the game, and Logan Thomas usually is a beast. Tech’s players, for whatever reason did not come to play against MTSU this year, and frankly, we deserved the beating we got. 15 points against FSU is nothing to be ashamed of, especially when we somehow held them scoreless in the second half. Iowa had the best defense of any team we have faced since Johnson has been at Tech; they contained the offense from the opening gun. Against LSU, Johnson tried to get too tricky, and he got burned. AF I frankly don’t remember, other than a disastrous kicking game. And as far as UGA this year, they beat us handily, but although the offense didn’t do much till the 4th quarter, it was again the Tech defense that totally sucked. As far as UGA putting in the scrubs, I don’t keep up with or recognize the numbers of the UGA players, but I doubt very seriously Richt put in any scrubs; he never has in any other game.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
@ Smyrna Gold…..I certainly wouldn’t go that far, and I certainly don’t think that highly of myself. I am just a loyal Tech fan. However, one thing you indirectly addressed certainly needs to be addressed by somebody at Tech. SOMEBODY, be it the AD, the publicity director, the coach….SOMEBODY needs to do a better job of “selling” Tech. The sports information department at Tech SUCKS !!!!!
Smyrna Gold
December 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
I’ve always thought 90% of the employees in the athletic department are UGA fans. The ticket office is terrible.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
From what I have heard, the ticket office was terrible even when Dodd was there.
GTJohn
December 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
Hard to read all the comments because of the trolls. From what I gather Tech’s player would have a hard time walking on at UGA, yet at the same time Tech and UGA recruit the same players. Seems like some people like to play a weird “circle of logic” argument. Put it back in the dryer because your thought process is still wet.
While I’m getting a bit tired of CPJ. I am willing to give him another year. Drad did not do us any favors with the contract he gave CPJ. I believe Tech needs a top shelf DC that can recruit, but do we have the money to get one?
All the sock puppet dogs need to go back to their own blogs and wonder why a starter stopped going to class after Bama. And least I forget, you guys need to keep beating your chest about how your going be whip Nebraska. I can script the game for you guys:
UGA goes up 2 or 3 scores by half. Seems like they’ve beat Nebraska.
Nebraska comes out in the second half and shuts UGA down. They get the 2 or 3 scores back and then go up 3 to 7 points. Bobo goes in panic mode. He runs when expected and passes when expected. Nebraska intercepts Murray on a pass that should never have been thrown. The dogs lose but claim a moral victory. Afterwards they blame the referees, then Nebraska, then bobo, then cmr.
Back at home numerous players houses are vandalized. I’m sure I missed a few details but that’s it in a nut shell.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
Actually, from my recent experience with the ticket office, things seem to have improved considerably, just in the past year.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
LOL @ GTJohn
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
@supersize: my beef is not even with PJ, I like his bravado to go for it on our side of the 50, I truly hoped and prayed that he could get us relevent again, and I was more than ready for Chan to go,my biggest issue is that most Tech people, true tech people just seem to accept 7-5 6-6 8-4, with PJ when they wanted blood with Chan, someone said it a few post ago, the worst thing for us in hindsight was PJ winning in Athens in 2008, we were so ready for that, that now we for the most part are bllind to everything else, the level of talent is so bad, that we look for any thing to cling to.my beef is that Tech the powers that be, and for most of the loyal fans, of which I am one, just roll over year after year and do not demand something better, maybe if is because most of us have rich full lives, and are very busy, football to most Tech people is not be all end all like it is for uga ( that is about all they have anyway) but still we should not settle for average…….that is not the Georgia Tech I know, or should I say new………………………..
wrecked
December 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
@gt40pinhd, The answer to your question is 35, the number of teams that average more points than GT. Pretty bad since GT plays in the ACC Coastal. and 6 is a good number too thats the Number of teams that scored more than 15 points vs FSU. 0r 9 thats’ the number of teams that scored 10 or more points vs UGA, or 8 thats the number of teams that scored more than 17 points vs VT.
Paul in NH
December 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
CPJ will be coaching at GT in 2013. I expect that he will have a much better season in his 6th season at GT than Frank Beamer had in his 6th season at VT.
GTJohn
December 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
“new………………………..”
Really?
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
@ fallen…..where you and I differ apparently is in our assessment of our talent level. I DO think we have talent out there, and generally speaking the offense proves their worth. But I think we have talent on defense too; it’s just that Groh couldn’t develop it and turn them into the players they COULD be. Hopefully, we will get a DC with the Tenuta tenacity and ingenuity, but one who, unlike Tenuta, can put up a sound defense every week and not just occasionally. That’s what all the Tenuta-lovers have forgotten: yes, his defense at times could be overwhelming, but they could altogether too often be incredibly underwhelming too. The UVA games come to mind, but there were others too (too many), when his defense didn’t bother to show up.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
I knew it when I thought it, I guess I get to fast, kinda like our defense………..
Paul in NH
December 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
Supersize
With all due respect, I have to disagree with you on GT’s talent level on D. The recruiting rankings may be similar as under Gailey, but they don’t have the playmakers on the DL that Gailey had. Michael Johnson, Vance Walker and Derrick Morgan were all far better than anyone who has come after them.
5150 UOAD
December 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
Johnson was initially an assistant football coach at Avery County High School in Newland, North Carolina[3] before starting his college career at Georgia Southern University in 1983, where he served as offensive coordinator for consecutive NCAA Division I-AA National Football Championships teams in 1985 and 1986.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
@supersize…. The talent level is where we differ, think back this year, or even last year, or even go back the last five years, when did we have one game where we could pressure the qb and sack him, without the blitz, and how many times during the same time frame have you seen their defense blow past our o line,. yea part of it may be coaching, but we are truly so out gunned, we do not see it. it is just very hard to accept that our small players are the same as Duke and Wake.. we used to be a big time program, with a lot of tradition, we are now Wake with some trick plays… we are so undersized, and slow, the tv guys were saying that the running backs should get their yards and just fall down before the uga players rip the ball out of their hands, it is hard to watch,…
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
Paul…..what I am saying is that I think we have the potential in our current talent base, but the potential has never been developed. Yes, those players you mentioned were hosses, but they well may have turned out just as bad as our current players have if Groh had been their coach. Obviously, we can’t know one way or another, but I really believe a GOOD DC can build a good defense with what we currently have, and that in turn will attract better players for the future.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
but all is not lost, I may be letting the cat out of the bag, but the rumor is during the sun bowl monday, we will unvail new combat jerseys….. with pocket protectors on them, watch usc shake……
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
5:59 pm
@ fallen….I still believe a lot more can be accomplished with our current players on defense than has been done to date. It IS a matter of coaching. Now obviously, size does count for an awful lot, but look back to the Rhino boys and several others like them (and I’m not just talking about the special teams play). They were not big boys, but look what they did, and it wasn’t all done with just raw instinct; their coaches developed them.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
@paul and bay bay thomas, calvin johnson, and we could go on and on, this is my point, paul you just proved it, we can no longer get any of these type players, maybe vad lee, we will see chan got those every year, we do not even come close to that level of player, we cannot win even stay in the middle of the pack with what we now get……..
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
6:05 pm
@supersize so who is gonna coach up this group of coaches………
Paul in NH
December 29th, 2012
6:05 pm
I’d love to see GT go after Randy Shannon as DC. He can recruit, he knows the ACC and he was not tainted by scandal at the U. Unfortunately there are rumors that Jimbo Fisher wants him as DC and FSU can outpay GT.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
@ fallen…..?????
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Paul…..I don’t know that he would do this, but if Taz Anderson wants a Randy Shannon or anybody else, then rest assured we have the money to get him.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
paul I hope you are correct, but I do not think that nick saban could get much more out of defense…we need players…. some one said it a while back PJ is in so far over his head, and sadly I agree, he does not know what he does not know…….2 and 3 star guys will continue to get you what we already have……
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
supersize I heard someone on the wes call in show that said he heard Taz say that with Vad in three years we will be playing for the national title, so if that is case, I do not put a lot of stock in what Taz A. has to say, If I recall, Taz was one of the more vocal ones when Dave Braine said we should just be happy with an 8 win season………
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
@ fallen….as has been pointed out on these blogs over and over, Chan had ONE good year recruiting, and overall, CPJ’s recruiting compares very favorably to what Chan did overall. Yes, Chan had one or two players from time to time who were highly regarded when they came to Tech and who lived up to those expectations. But on the whole, his recruiting was average at best.
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
@ fallen…..I didn’t know that Taz agreed with what Braine said, but still, he has the money. If he wants something, he usually gets it.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
6:35 pm
@supersize I may have not been clear, Taz was against what Braine said, very vocal, but my point is by his comment about vad lee this was after the tar heel game, when we hung 68 on them, that he said we would be in the title hunt in 3 years, which I think is laughable, but to the bigger point, he did not agree with what Braine said, but seems now to be drinking, dare I say swiimming in the PJ kool aid…………. and I beg to differ, Chan had to have more than one year to sign, the diessel, calvin, walker, johnson, burnett, bay bay,, and on and on., he was a bad coach, ask the bills, but he could get that kind of talent, we can not get that type of talent any more, this is my point……
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
@ fallen…..ok. I misunderstood what you meant about Taz and Braine. I think his reaction to the UNC game might have been a little bit inflated, but I don’t disagree with his overall optimism. I just think you are seeing the cup half-empty as opposed to half-full, like I (and apparently Taz) do. My only real concern with Johnson’s teams so far has been with the defense. I mean, look at it objectively: with ANY KIND OF DEFENSE AT ALL this year, we could easily have been 9-3 for the season. I am convinced we would have beat VT, Miami, and probably Clemson. And I am sure the MTSU debacle would not have happened if we had been on a roll coming into the game. I won’t go so far as to say we would have beat the mutts, but I think we might well have beaten FSU, to go 10-3. As far as Chan’s recruiting goes, like I said he had scattered individual players who were terrific, but overall, he only had one solid recruiting year.
Highly Respected Southern Troll
December 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
The difference in the talent that Gailey and Johnson brought in was night-and-day. The entire defensive line that Johnson inherited in 2008 went to the NFL: Johnson, Walker, Richard, and Morgan. You also have Josh Nesbitt, Morgan Burnett, Cord Howard, Demaryius Thomas, Tashard Choice, and others – all Gailey players that went into the NFL. Johnson puts essentially noone in the pros. What, Anthony Allen and Stephen Hill? How many players from this year’s team? Maybe Smith, Attaochu, and Uzzi have outside chances and that’s probably it.
It’s silly that people even debate this subject anymore.
how far we have fallen
December 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
I hope all of you are right and I am wrong about PJ, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR…………
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
@ fallen…..Happy New Year to you too. I leave early in the morning for El Paso. So IF we somehow find a defense and stop the Trojans, I’ll be looking for you online when I return. LOL
Flak Jacket
December 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
I can see some people are in the sauce and that`s alright with me because i`m right with you but it`s gonna take a lot more than a DC to turn this thing around come on.
Thomas, Godhigh, Uzzi share team honors | Georgia Tech
December 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
[...] Five freshmen who have impressed in practice [...]
GTfan2012
December 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
Highly Respected Southern Troll,
Your ignorance is showing. I will bet you $1000 today that there are at least five guys that played significant minutes on our roster in 2012 that will be on an NFL roster some time in the next 5 years. Would you take that bet? I totally agree that we do not have as much NFL talent today as we had on the team in 2008 or 2009. But we have a lot more than you think.
I’ve got another question about Chan Gailey. How many of his 2002 class were drafted to the NFL, What about 2003, what about 2005? How many of those four classes went to the NFL? I believe the total is 3. So in 3 of his 6 full recruiting classes, Chan Gailey had 3 guys drafted.
GTfan2012
December 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
that should say three classes not four in the second paragraph
Supersize that order, mutt
December 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
@ GTfan2012……good info there. I didn’t have those stats earlier
wrecked
December 29th, 2012
11:04 pm
Something you will never see from PJ recruited team.Year 5 Chan.No losing seasons.
Nov. 27, 2006
A first-team selection for the third straight year, wide receiver Calvin Johnson headlines the All-Atlantic Coast Conference team, which includes a total of 10 Yellow Jackets.
Johnson, punter Durant Brooks, defensive tackle Joe Anoai and safety Jamal Lewis were first-team all-ACC selections. ACC rushing leader Tashard Choice, linebacker Philip Wheeler and defensive end Adamm Oliver made second-team all-ACC, while linebacker KaMichael Hall, tackle Andrew Gardner and quarterback Reggie Ball earned honorable mention recognition.
Johnson, a junior from Tyrone, Ga., was the only unanimous selection on the all-ACC team. He becomes the fifth Yellow Jacket to be a three-time all-ACC selection but the first player in Georgia Tech history to earn first-team all-ACC honors three times.
Johnson has 59 receptions for 889 yards and ranks third in the nation with 13 touchdown catches.
Brooks, a junior from Macon, Ga., leads the ACC in punting average (45.2) while ranking second in the nation in net punting at 40.86.
Anoai, a senior from Pensacola, Fla., anchors a Tech defense that ranks 11th in the nation against the run. He has 32 tackles, six tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, and two fumble recoveries.
Lewis, a junior from Jonesboro, Ga., is the third-leading tackler (65) on a Tech unit that stands eighth nationally in pass efficiency defense. He has three interceptions and 6.5 tackles for loss.
A junior from Riverdale, Ga., Choice was a second-team selection despite leading the league with an average of 100.3 yards per game. He also led in conference games only, averaging 100.1 yards against ACC foes.
Wheeler, a junior from Columbus, Ga., has 74 tackles while ranking among the ACC leaders in sacks (8) and tackles for loss (12.5), along with two fumble recoveries.
A junior from New Port Richey, Fla., Oliver is the Jackets’ fourth-leading tackler with 60, including 9.5 tackles for loss.
Gardner, a sophomore from Tyrone, Ga., is the Jackets’ top lineman, paving the way for Choice and an offense that averages 164.3 rushing yards per game, which is second in the ACC.
Hall is a senior from Houston, Texas, who leads Tech 75 tackles, including nine tackles for loss, four sacks, four pass breakups and two fumble recoveries.
Ball, a senior from Stone Mountain, Ga., leads the ACC with 20 touchdown passes.
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
December 30th, 2012
12:14 am
@ wrecked. I know we never really broke out under Chan but there’s no question the talent level was quite high in those years. He never got a top flight qb but it makes one wonder what could have been with Renfree under center in a Gailey led GT team. For now we’ll just have to watch and wonder which way the run is going on most every play.
Vett
December 30th, 2012
6:59 pm
Cheering for my school — let’s go tech!!!!
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GTBob
December 30th, 2012
7:28 pm
I cheer for my school until my Levis swell
Life as a Georgia Bulldawg
December 31st, 2012
12:37 am
I apologize to all the Techies for all the UGA trolls on your site. We have very little to pound our chest about, but we need to cling to something…
Our academics stink.
Our alumni base is predominantly blue collar.
The teams we have that consistently beat Tech in anything are our Football Team and our Women’s Basketball Team. The rest of our sports programs stink.
Our football team has gotten competitive in the last two years, but we didn’t play any of the toug teams from the SEC West.
But life is good for a UGA Troll.
Sorry GT fans… I hope you get your football program on track… Not sure CPJ is the guy to do it.
where have you gone pepper rodgers
December 31st, 2012
10:03 am
we are torn between two points of view, is it poor coaches, who cannot coach.. or is it a lack of real talent, (that must be there to compete on a big time stage ) And it seems to me that it is the lack of wow players for the most part, when Alabama was in their slump and they hired Saban, they still got beat by teams that should not be able to beat them. and that is with Saban and his high level asst. coachs that came with him. PLAYERS (REALPLAYERS MAKE PLAYS) heart and desire can only take you so far, you may be a 15 handicap and you hate tiger woods, but you still will never beat him in a head to head match, I do not care how bad you want it , or how good my caddie is, not gonna happen. and I feel that is where we are at, we are 15 handicap playing against a tour type player in UGA, if you think a new DC will help that much, well guys he will not, a good DC will only put you in the right position to make a play, players make plays a coach cannot stop a guy from not being strong or good or skilled enough to bring him down… so you try to out think them or confuse them, sometime it works but alas most of the time it will not. so it leaves us with the lack of real hard nose players, you can say the you will take a 3star with a big heart, vs. a 5 star, i get that pep talk crap, go watch rudy again until that thought passes. we do not have much talent on this team, talent that can make a difference, when was the last time you heard wes say about a Tech lineman or linebacker, folks they just can’t block him, it’s been a while, sadly guys they (whoever they are, they change from week to week, but they can always block us, they can always stop us, except for the blitz)
we have no real talent anymore, and please do not say we are not real fans, it takes a real fan, to pay to go grant field and watch this, it is easy to jump on a band wagon, it takes a real fan to even turn on the tv, to watch this, and after paying for season tickets for the chance to watch this we have all the right in the world to say what we think, and sadly for those of us who have had enough it pains me to say it, but it must be said, this is not working, and I see nothing to make me think it will….for what ever reason, CPJ has not ever, and will not be able to bring in the talent (players make plays)that will right this ship…he is in year 5, we went 6-7 with a full slate of the players that he wanted, these are the guys that he wanted, 20-19 last three years, against a very very weak ACC