UPDATED: Tech denies Big Ten rumors

While I can certainly understand why the Big 10 would want GA Tech….

1. The Atlanta and general Southern US television market.
2. Acadmics
3. Historic football and basketball programs

I just don’t see that much advantage for GA Tech to move from the ACC to the Big 10. Maryland was in dire financial shape with their entire athletic department – GA Tech’s is fine. Yes, the Big 10 pays out more for now, but the other “super conferences” to include the ACC will quickly catch up.

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Georgia Tech possibly sees the ACC falling apart. Big 10 wants more TV markets and will go after 2 of these 3: GT, UVA, UNC. By going to the Big 10, GT ensures they will not be left in the sinking ACC.

Big 10 offers stability, tons of money, and high academics.

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That is bull crap.

There is way too much smoke to this on twitter today and for at least a month, but especially today, for this “I am not aware of conversations” statement.

Ken, please tell me you don’t actually believe this statement.

This is a very weak denial.

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OK, Hypothetical… Assuming GT sees the writing on the wall, and decides to go (and other conferences want GT) what would be better:

B1G: Join Maryland and get some of that B1G network money?

or

Big XII: Join in a coalition with Clemson and FSU and all 3 go to the Big 12. So we keep some rivalry games? I dont know how the money situation would pan out here through.

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Ramblinwrek, I believe regardless of what Tech does, we will keep playing Clemson and of course, Georgia.

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Then why would Griffin tell a flat out lie rather than just noy commenting?

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i am just saying that if we had a choice I dont think a pact with Clemson and FSU would be bad. Keeps some sort of regionalism in tact.

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Given GT`s present situation with the football program in shambles, I would be surprised that the Big 10 or any other major conference would want them. They are lucky the ACC apparently wants them to stay.

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If the rumors are true and this appears to be a weak denial at best by Griffin, especially while acknowledging negotiations would take a place at a higher level than his, then any announcement should be forth coming next week after the ACCCG. Sure looks like someone has leaked the news with all the activity on the social networking sites.

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I would rather stay in the ACC, but if FSU and Clempson go to the Big 12, the ACC is toast.

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Please….the GT “execs” are just keeping this on the down low because we’re about to play for the ACC championship and if we win, they will keep it quiet for longer. If we lose, they will announce it by next week. GT is trying to slavage some sense of professionalism. IMHO

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I have really nasty breath.

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So let me get this straight. If he said “we are not going” then he’s lying, but if he doesn’t say anything then its true. Reminds me of “they can’t post anything on the internet that isn’t true”

“Where did you here that?”

“The internet”

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http://xkcd.com/386/

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Can we get a spot in the Big Ten championship at 6-6?

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How many losers does the Big 10 need? Can’t believe they took the last two.

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ChrisN, the Atlanta TV market is not about ratings, its about exposer. Yes, Atlanta is primarily an SEC market,but to have a BIG 10 in Atlanta will give the conference exposures in a Top 10 TV market. No TV market in Virginia or North Carolina, outside of possibly Charlotte is in the top 50 TV markets. Tech would bring an academic and Atlanta TV market exposer element, nothing else.

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Hard to believe how many comments this dumb rumor drew. Tech isn’t going anywhere.

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We need a “Public Ivies” conference – perhaps Eastern and Western divisions – that has higher academic standards for student-athletes. Sure, there wouldn’t be many national championships, but integrity is more important. The vast majority of Div 1 football players have no business attending a serious university.

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This may be further along than any of us care to admit. Note that ACC teams, with the pi$$-poor television deal they signed, will not get no more than $17 million a year per team for the next decade and his is with ND’s hodge-podge semi membership. Big Ten teams already get at minimum $24 Million for their television contract alone, and with the addition of Maryland and Rutgers, the new deal in 2017 with ESPN and the Big Ten Network will net at minimum $35-$40 million per Big Ten school or double what the ACC pays. Academically and athletically that is very significant. Georgia Tech, is at the bottom of the ACC, with Maryland in revenue brought in. Anyone that doesn’t think Atlanta and other portions of Georgia will not get the Big Ten Network on all cable systems with the likes of Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Penn State coming to town or playing GT, are poorly informed, even if Georgia is more popular! Personally, I don’t like all the change and I am not personally too excited about a Michigan and Georgia Tech match-up or worse, Indiana and Georgia Tech match-up, but I would like to remind you that the ACC is the one who started this significant change by first poaching Florida State, then poaching Boston College, Miami (FL), and Virginia Tech, then Syracuse and Pittsburgh, now Louisville. We shall see what happens, but if you like it or not, it is television sets and money that is shaping Big Ten and SEC expansion.

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Okay maybe I am just old but I always liked the regionalism of the conferences. GaTech belongs in the ACC or SEC, Texas A&M belongs in the Big 10/12, Boise State belongs in the WAC…..and so on. Too many conferences trying to go coast to coast. And when did the Big 10 obtain better academics than the ACC ? On a like note how have I missed the ACC is a sinking ship, where is the truth to this assertion?

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Atlanta is the 8 or 9 rated TV market in the nation. The Big 10 would be fools to not try to get a presence in this market.

And as noted by others GT is a member of the AAU as are all Big 10 teams except Nebraska, who were kicked out of the AAU 2 months before their official date as members of the BIg 10.

For GT the reason would be money.

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We have a presence in this market based on the attention I garner on dog blogs!

Ha!

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[...] Posted by RubberSoul The B1G is large and in charge apparently. UPDATED: Tech denies Big Ten rumors | Georgia Tech __________________ The legend [...]

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Possible the SEC would pluck a team or two from the ACC,their only other choice would be Southern Miss but I doubt it,the ACC is very stable with TV contracts in both football and basketball,I see nothing happening with the new teams joining the conference.

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GT in the SEC? Please! We run in a different crowd, to put it nicely.

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UNC, NC State, and Duke will NOT leave the ACC. You also will never separate UVA and VT. I’m not sure if ND doing well this year helped ACC football or hurt their chance of getting ND in. The Big 10, and as a Mountaineer, the Big 12, have a lot of work to do in my opinion…but then again I grew up in Atlanta.

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@ Pope UGA XXIII……your odds are probably 100% correct, but not all of your logic is. Tech once had the largest on-campus stadium in the SEC, and it was full to capacity weekly. We also had more SEC championships at that time than did UGA. Whether returning to the SEC would solve Tech’s problems or make them worse is an unknown, but the SEC is where Tech belongs. The only bridges that were burnt when Tech left the SEC in 1966 were with the Mississippi schools, and those bridges had been burned long before then since Dodd always refused to go to Mississippi for games. UGA does not want us and abstained on the vote in the 80s when Tech tried to return. Whether other schools outside of UGA and the Mississippi schools would accept us now is debatable, but it SHOULD be considered.

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It is my understanding that UVA cannot BY VA LAW go anywhere without VT, and vice versa

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I am amazed at the naivete of some of you guys. First, as Decatur Hurricane and Tellitlikeitis seem to believe, along with the tooth fairy, et al, the financial picture at the GTAA is not peaches and cream. Nor is it with the ACC. We have a chance to not only right our ship but to get it headed in the right direction: Championship Football.

To succeed athletically we have to recruit academically – that is, go for the kids who are smart enough to know there is life after football, college or pro. These kids are much more “available” in the midwest and east than in the south, and they are not totally convinced that you have to play for an SEC team. With the increased income we definitely will receive in this move, we can widen our recruiting net substantially. And we can hire top flight coaches to produce better players. Plus a lot of things like increase marketing and promote a higher attendance at our games. Also, there are many more Big Ten football fans in Metro Atlanta than ACC fans, which also should help our attendance.

The ACC, meanwhile, is falling apart. How long will it take ESPN to completely divorce itself from televising ACC games when the SEC games are available? The Fighting Irish, you can bet, don`t need the ACC to get to the BCS Championship, so the chances of them coming to the ACC`s rescue are pretty slim to none. And, you can bet the ranch that FSU, Clemson, Va.Tech, and Miami aren`t interested in trying to hold this conference up single handedly. You say, “What about basketball?” That`s what the Big East keeps saying. And the ACC will soon be right where they are, if they`re lucky. There are FOUR Major Conferences, and the ACC didn`t make the cut. Wake up, guys. Our opportunity is here. Don`t waste it.

I`ll say this. If Bud Peterson turns his back on this opportunity to get our athletic program on a high and permanently successful level, he will have a hard time leading Georgia Tech, period.

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@Supersize,
It would certainly increase the rivalry/importance of the game if we could get ya’ll back in the SEC…..Ole Miss/Miss.State ‘Bama/Auburn, Tenn./Vandy. Very frankly, it would help ya’ll take the program more seriously and would DEFINITELY help in your recruiting.

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Go to SEC and B12 if you have no interest in basketball. I personally luv great ACC rounball after FB season. Or SEC can huddle around TV and watch slick John and the Cats.

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Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss. State all voted against Tech re-entry to SEC. Tech doesn’t fit in the SEC. If it wants to win football games it should stay in the ACC. GT would be a bottom dweller in SEC or Big 10.

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“Supersize, the law says that VT has to stay in ACC as long as UVA does, not that they have to stay together if UVA moves.”

That is completely and utterly inaccurate. There’s no law anywhere in Virginia that says anything about conference affiliations for VT and UVA. It’s amazing what nonsense people come up with.

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…”Georgia State doesn’t fit the B1G academically” – that is the first poignant thing you have posted in about 8 weeks…

But, if GT does go, will Vad still be the QB of choice?

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…I heard the same thing the Supersize wrote – however, maybe it is a “legislative agreement” that somehow got misrepresented as “law”, though I do think there is validity to its being true, no matter what verbiage you use…

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VPI97, I saw it on the Internet, so it must be true!

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this is why the acc said that they new uconn and cincy would be there when needed. acc officials new all along tech was going to but not announcing till after the championship game.

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“I heard the same thing the Supersize wrote”

Replace the word “heard” with the likely more factual “read some internet post from some anonymous person that said” and see if someone takes you seriously.

Again, there is no validity to that nonsense.

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Doubt very seriously there’s been any legislation about what conference UVA or VT can join. However, neither is going anywhere without the other.

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denies this because it is a done deal.

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After what happened to get VT into the ACC, you’ve got a tough case to make if you think you’re dumping UVA without a fight.

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@ 700 is……so why don’t you tell us what Vad Lee’s SAT scores were. Probably higher than yours ever were

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Wish the SEC would take us back. The ACC is really not a football conference. Was hoping Johnson would be gone soon and go for Charley Strong, but now hes in the ACC. Wish this conference crap would never have started, miss the Southwest Conference and just having 10-12 bowls instead of these junk bowls with 6-6 teams. Pretty soon, it will be everyone can go bowling, even winless teams for the tv revenue.

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VP197…..for what it’s worth, they ARE apparently mandated now to play each other every year. I guess that DOES allow for them to go their separate ways, but they still must play each other annually.

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VPI97…..If you want a reference for my 5:39PM post, try “Virginia Tech Magazine. Fall 2004″

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@ DawginNY, thats a pretty good setup and I agree with you, always thought it was so stupid for WVA in Big 12 and Mizzou in SEC along with A&M. Might as well put Hawaii and AZ and Boise in ACC. Cant see Maryland and Rutgers in Big 10, never could see Cincy, Rutgers or S.Fla in a big conference. Cant see BC, Syracuse or Pitt in the ACC. I still wish GT would quit playing Georgia, cant beat them and am tired of the annual butt beating because PJ cant recruit players.

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I think Tech would thrive in the SEC. Don’t give me that BS about academics. They need a boost!

Go Dawgs!

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allenlaw – I like the way you think.

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@ USMC DAWG…..Thanks

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Good let’s stay in the aCC where we can continue losing ground to the SEC and the dwags. Maybe we can even lose 11 of the next 12 to the Athens scum. The ACC has really been terrific for Tech in our efforts to close ground on enemy #1.

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Without an athetletic director who is doing research on this move? Do we have a committe already, or is Peterson now calling all the shots for Tech atheletics?

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@ ole yeller……for better or worse, like has happened many times in the past, I would imagine that Taz Anderson is calling all the shots

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ChrisN
You are incorrect on so many levels in your 4:05 posting that all I can do is laugh.
I’ll only rebut here with the fact that the Atlanta tv market is huge & a desirable one & in Sept. it was ranked as the 9th largest in a Nielsen estimate. By comparison, metro D.C. was 8th ranked in market size & had only 30,000 more households
You are probably unaware that there is very large Big Ten population living in metro Atlanta & that if the cable companies see $$$ in a Tech/Big Ten combination, there will no laughing done in Jim Delaney’s face. Quite the contrary, actually. But you apparently are too smug to see beyond those blinders you must be wearing.

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It all boils down to the almighty dollar as expressed through a large TV market. Atlanta is the 8th. largest TV market in America and that would make any conference drool. However, the way the Tech program has fallen in recent years Big TV Market or No Big TV Market won’t make any money for the Big Ten.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/09/10/nielsen-local-television-market-universe-estimates/5037/

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DublDawg
Oh boy..here we go again!
This time it’s you with, “…The Big 10 is “desperate”.
I can assure you that there is hardly anything further from the truth.
Jeesh, where do some of you people come up with these opinions?

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I hope this is all just blogosphere wishful thinking, as I don’t want to see GT leave the ACC (mostly because of stability). But, if we are going to leave, let’s go back to the SEC where we belong. Our traditional rivals are UGA, Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, UF, etc. I actually enjoyed our independent years more than our ACC years. The Auburn series was fantastic fun, for us and them. UT was always a big game. I can’t get excited about playing NC State (or even UNC) or most of the ACC teams.

Call me traditional, but if we change conferences, let’s go back home to the one we left….

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I’m beginning to think we shud go to BIG for money. We can’t win ACC in either FB or BB. We, like UGa, rarely make NCAA tourney. Just show me the money. Or we can just tee it up/toss it up with Miss State, a similar engineering school,

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Not saying that Tech will go, but everyone denies being in conversations with another conference until just before they call the press conference announcing that they are leaving.

From the Big Ten’s perspective, adding TV sets for the Big Ten Network means money even if the team draws mediocre ratings. On my cable system, the Big Ten Network is on the sports tier (relatively few subscribers) – if Tech gets it bumped to the standard tier, then the BTN makes money off subscriber fees regardless of the ratings. Let’s face it – it’s not like Maryland and Rutgers draw huge ratings.

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I guess Ohio St needs another patsy on their schedule….lol

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VPI97 – I get what you are saying, but I think the same was probably true of Maryland and Rutgers. From what I’ve read, it’s getting the Big Ten Network moved off a sports tier onto a standard tier that makes the big difference, both in terms of subscriber fees and ad sales. Mind you, I think sports business analysts are divided over whether the Rutgers/Maryland additions were good ones from a business perspective.

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rw – You’re right, that’s the only situation where there would be any benefit.

Right now the B10 makes money in the Atlanta market based on existing sports tier subscriptions since their network is already available in the market (their cut would probably be a how many ever cents per existing subscription). Would adding GT to the conference raise sports tier subscriptions enough to compensate for an additional seat at the overall pool of money…I think we both see that as being very unlikely. So then, as you said, the only big increase would come from forcing the ATL stations to put B10 network on basic…then the conference gets a cut from the overall number of subscribers of basic. That would be some decent money.

But look at it from the cable providers perspective…do you think that they’re going to be willing to fork over that money to the B10 network for nothing? Why would they voluntarily do that? If this were UGA, you may have a point…the comments and complaints from the public about having to spend $5 a month on the sports tier to see their Dawgs may force the cable companies to add B10 network…but this is GT we’re talking about. That’s like saying adding Rutgers to the B10 will force the companies in NYC to add B10 to basic and that’s just insa… Oh yeah.

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Supersize: You mentioned the fact that Dodd would never take Tech to Ole Miss or MST. I being a GT fan since 1952 can also remember that he would not take the team to Clemson. Frank Howard was smart enough to take the big paycheck to play in Atlanta every year. I believe that Dodd did agree to play Ole Miss once in the Sugar Bowl (1954 or 1955) I think.

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As a Maryland alumnus and Atlanta resident, I look forward to Ga. Tech joining the Terps in the B1G!

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Why is this even a story. We jabber the Acc championship and all we hear all week is about Acc alignment and no coverage on the football . We are inn the championship game could care less about stupid reasons the big ten bailed out a horrible Maryland program. Let’s hear about football. Then I appreciate article about tech hoops but the paper had no coverage the night of the game. Ken you have done excellent these two years. How about more articles on the game. If the ajc cared about the Acc so much it wouldn’t hurt to cover Acc hoops or the Acc big ten challenge

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@ wreckbone…..Ken will start covering the basketball games after tomorrow night. The ajc only gives Tech one writer, and he can’t do everything. Just be glad he does what he does so well. In my book, he’s the best !!!!

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Somebody is not being completely honest here as a Michigan website “Chatsports” is reporting that GT will join the B10 on Monday December 3. Guess we will see as the weekend unfolds.

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Big 10 is NOT one bit better than ACC in any way ! Academics ??? NO WAY !!!!

Heck ACC is heads and shoulders above sec, in everything, except football, sec basketball is not much !

UNC to big 10… HA Ha Ha , and NVER play Duke again… Even the Carolina crowd would not stand for that… I can just see those BIG rivals, GT and Iowa… Oh Boy !!!!

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I laugh at anyone who thinks academics has anything to do with anything. Tech’s standards keep them from competing? The B1G wants Tech for the academics? No and no. The B1G is going after TVs. If Tech was smart they would jump to the Big 12 with F$U and Clemson where they might actually stand a chance of competing in football and basketball and go to the Sugar Bowl and NCAA tournament. How is Tech going to get any decent kid from this state to play for a mid-level B1G program where half of your games are in the freezing cold far away from home when there are a dozen better FBS programs within a day’s drive in the SEC and ACC.

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Supersize who do u think u guys will target for the new DC after tomorrow or the bowl? Heard Ellis Johnson mentioned earlier today and I thought that might be a decent move only downfall is his age.

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Tech is like a woman on the rag. Didn’t like the SEC; it leaves for independent status, and doesn’t like that. Then it joins the ACC, now it wants out. I think Tech is a malcontent.

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I think the Peach Belt Conference would be the perfect fit for Ga Tech. I think Ga Tech could be at least near the top every year. Look for an announcement soon.

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I’m older than Ellis Johnson, and I think he’s lost a bit in his intellectual capacity. I’m not as old as Al Groh, though. Tech needs to go for a younger guy, and one that is potential head coach material.

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I’d rather GT return to the SEC, not sure the GTAA is very pleased with the ACC bowing down to Notre Dame. There are a lot of GT fans in the sticks (I’ve met plenty in my job field) and they’d show up so see traditional rivalries with SEC teams again. A lot of GT fans just have no interest in seeing ACC teams play GT.

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On a side note our basketball team could be worse than auburn was in football this year. Tech looks like they have a pretty good team this year and will destroy us next week.

I would welcome tech to the SEC but not sure what it would do for the rivalry. Can’t see it hurting anything for Gt and it would prob help tech in recruiting.

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Of course, the ACC may not really care. Tech’s always seemed to be an outsider like Maryland, beneath the tobacco road and Virginia snobs. Plus, Atlanta is an SEC market, and Tech leaving makes room for UConn as #14 and gets more of the northeast market and strengthens hoops. The ACC would probably get Villanova in the conference in a few years for Philly and go after Central Florida for the Orlando area and that sweet 16 number.

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One GT alumnus’s opinions on where we should be.

#1. My first preference is that we stay in the ACC and that the teams currently in the ACC GET BETTER!!!. Spend some money on quality coaches, assistant coaches, etc. Win some big games vs quality opponents. Stop being the SEC’s whipping boys. Man up.

but if that doesn’t seem likely then….

#2. The B1G. Money. Academic prestige. Stability. We’re AAU, everyone but Nebraska is AAU. Visiting B1G teams would guarantee home game sellouts. Heck we could probably expand the stadium another 5k seats and still sell out.

#2b. The SEC. They are a very close second. We would renew some traditional rivalries. We’d get our butts handed to us for the first 5 years or so, but it would be worth it. The money would be better. And the travel costs would be reasonable, since we’re in the middle of SEC territory already.

#4. The Big 12. To me they are the AQ of last resort. The fact that people still want to go there when 4 teams have left astounds me. I wouldn’t go to a restaurant where 4 people got food poisoning, why would I join a conference with the same problem?

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One of two things are going to happen with ND playing in the ACC halfway. The first and most probable scenario is this: ND continues to build strength as a program and demolishes every ACC team they play like they did this year. The teams that get screwed out of an ACC title chance because they caught ND that year will be pissed, or worse, ND will knock a Florida State or Clemson out of BCS title contention. ND causes (more of) a divide in the conference and F$U, Clemson, and VT get out.

The second is that ND struggles once they start playing ACC games, TV ratings drop, especially against ACC teams, and the perception becomes that the ACC is bringing down ND football. ND supporters call for the end of the relationship with the ACC. The ACC is left holding the bag, TV contracts suffer, and the other conferences come in to pick the ACC clean.

This ND thing is not going to end well.

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Gruden turned down the coaching job at Tennessee *and* an accompanying part ownership in the Cleveland Browns. Looking at it from Gruden’s point of view, I immediately see 2 things wrong with that offer: Tennessee, and Cleveland.

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Delbert, I do not remember “patrick”. I only hope he did not live on San Clemente Island. If he did the the NGFS practice must of been hell! LOL

I always remember “Rick James”. You would think a person with his wealth would have better things to do besides run down Georgia Tech. You’d think he would show some appreciation for all the things provided to him by Engineers. The Bentley comes to mind.

Don’t worry Rick James I for one don’t believe you at all. Good luck with your drug habits.

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GT needs to join a High School league

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The first yr (1968) I lived inCa it was in Pacific Grove, in the house where John Steinbeck had lived. He died that yr or the next, and his picture appeared in the Monterey Newspaper standing in front of our house.

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Whoops, I left out “worked for” at the end of the 3rd sentence.

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Later, Toadster..

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Tech’s athletic dept is broke–no way they can afford to pay a $50 million exit fee or even a $50,000 fee.

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Tthe Jackets would be a perfect fit in the Sun Belt Conference.

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guy = silly little girl

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lol @ all the dum-dums who think “academics” matters at all to SPORTS conferences

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“Those that question Big 10 Basket Ball, have never seen every single game of a Big 10 season in Person”

Considering that during the Big 10-ACC Challenge, there were games being played at the same time, and this is not an unusual occurence, it is spatiallyand temporally impossible to see every single game of a Big 10 season in person.

What the heck do they teach people at Purdue?

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Danny

ACC is the best in everything besides football,

WHO CARES

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By the way, nobody here has to try to “one up” Purdue. Purdue is a fine UNIVERSITY. But Ga Tech is one of the top engineering schools in the world. Deal with it, Milly May

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Supersize that order, mutt

@ Milly May…..get a life, little girl

Grade school flame

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You all don’t understand how the TV deal works for the Big Ten Network. Essentially, the BTN gets subscriber fees of about ten cents if it is on a paid sports tier network. It gets about 80 cents if it is part of a basic tier. This is regardless of how many people watch the channel. The BTN makes additional money selling ads which is ratings based. Most outside of the Big Ten don’t realize Fox Sports owns 51% of the BTN. Fox is also starting a national sports channel next year to rival ESPN. It is Fox’s intention to bundle the BTN, YES & their new sports channel in the NY market to get on basic tier.

I don’t think the Atlanta market will be as easy to happen…but if Fox is going to bundle their sports packages like that in Atlanta, GaTech makes perfect sense for that market…just like MD did for DC.

The reason the Big 12 has no interest in adding FSU or any other ACC team is because they have a sweetheart deal right now. They make 20 mil per school off their current TV deal. If they add more schools, each school gets a smaller peice…regardless of TV sets or ratings. A FB championship game wouldn’t make enough of an impact to add two more teams. Plus, TX has its own TV network and all the Big 12 schools are locked in for 10 years and can’t leave the conference (signed away all their TV rights so nobody would want them).

The SEC is a fine football conference but doesn’t hold a candle to the Big Ten in academics, on any measure. The Big Ten is made up of large, mostly public state universities that have a combined annual research income of over $500 million. The money our member universities make off of research and public/private enterprise is more than double what we make in athletics…and what we make in athletics as a conference is more than any other.

Joining the Big Ten would be the best thing to ever happen to GaTech both academically and athletically. BTW – our 16th school after GaTech will be Kansas not UNC.

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Tech needs to find a conference that they can win like AA high school!

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We are facing the elimination of the ACC as a major conference. Maryland is already gone. Florida State and Clemson are probably headed to the Big 12. The SEC is waiting to pick off Virginia Tech and NC State. Georgia Tech and possibly North Carolina or Duke would be good catches for the Big 10. With the 4 team football playoff coming the big 4 will be the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, and Pac 12. There is no room at the table for a 5th or 6th hand.

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Hey Gopher4ever. That was a nice little rant you had going on there, but I must correct you on one thing and show you were you contradict yourself big time. First, the GOR’s (grant of rights) for the Big 12 is 13 years. You state no one wants a school from the Big 12 for that reason. You are spot on with that statemene. You contradict yourself by saying that school #16 will not be UNC, but Kansas. As of today, Kansas is in the Big 12

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By combining their resources Big Ten schools bring in billions (yes billions) of dollars of federal grant money that dwarfs the millions of dollars made by the Big Ten channel and football. Getting a piece of this pie will be a major reason GA Tech joins the Big 10.

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Its simply absurd that this is even a story and the president of the school has to issue a statement on it. These rumors have never been anything other than wishful thinking out of delusional Tech fans. Now the Techies will spin in it to make it sound like they have no interest in the Big 10, when in reality the Big 10 has no interest in them. They’d jump ship in a heartbeat if the opportunity arose. This is a common Techie spin tactic you see alot of in recruiting. Tech fans pretend they aren’t that interested in 5 star recruits because, according to Tech fans, they are all too dumb to hack it academically at the “Institute.” The reality is that there are plenty of 5 star recruits smart enough for a management degree at Tech. They just don’t want anything to do with Tech’s half azzed joke of a football program. Tech fans should get in to politics. They can slice and dice the truth with the best of ‘em.

Georgia Tech=JOKE

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Ga Tech has an opportunity to rejoin the SEC when two team expansion occurs.

Still think North Carolina Tar Heels and Miami Hurricanes should be the two additions and send Missouri to the West.

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well if they are making a …strong denial …then you know it’s the truth.

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Big Ten offers: money from contracts and sell outs in football and basketball, stability, and a national presence. ACC will be the next Big East.

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Not sure how this plays out, but this would certainly be a good long term move for Tech. Align themselves with similar schools, expand the recruiting base, help fill up Bobby Dodd, and last but not least, $$$$$.

A look at USNews reveals the Big Ten with six(seven with Tech) top fifty schools. The move would put the ACC at seven. Of course Vandy is the only school in the SEC that values educating their athletes and they are the sole $EC team to show up. So Tech would fit well in that regard. No sign of Purdue though for the dude bragging about their academics.

With two-thirds of southern recruits eliminated from considering Tech due to the lack of classroom preparation, the Big Ten region would open up numerous avenues to expand that pool of student athletes.

Being at every game at Bobby Dodd this year it was sad to see the pitiful crowds Duke, Uva, BC, and Miami brought to the Flats. Not sure how the likes of Minn., Indiana, Purdue, etc. travel, but most every other team should help fill the place up and make for a wonderful atmosphere and generate game day proceeds.

Not much to say about the additional $$$$, it speaks for itself. I guess we shall see soon enough.

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Until the courts sort out how much it is going to cost Maryland to leave the ACC, no body else is going anywhere.

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For those saying that Tech fans are the only ones that watch GT football, that’s simply not the case. Many UGA fans watch GT football too, they are a Georgia team. Yes, there are a lot of Yankees and Midwesterners down here and they would definitely be tuning in to watch their teams play Tech.

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ACC pays $17 Million per team in a really bad television agreement that goes another decade. Big Ten teams pay at minimum $24 Million, and with the addition of East Coast Schools Maryland and Rutgers and a new ESPN deal in a couple of years, Big Ten Schools will pay AT MINIMUM, $35 to $40 Million per school, or double with the ACC pays. I don’t know if this is going to happen, and I hope it does not, however, if it does, Georgia Tech Football will become a bigger player in Georgia and even though the State of Georgia is huge of Bulldogs Football, you can bet the house that Tech and the Big Ten Network would be on every cable system in Georgia.

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It’s just a bad year for the ACC, GTPack. If it weren’t for Miami’s indiscretions, the ACC would be shining a bit brighter today.

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The thought of GT joining the Big 10 makes me want to puke! I hate every team in the Big 10!!!!!

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Leave the ACC. Recruits are avoiding it like the plague. Would Matty Ice play for BC today? Not likely. When Duke almost wins a division and Va Tech sucks, we have a problem.

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GT is not isolated with Clemson and FSU nearby. Joining the B10 will completely isolate them and instead of competing against the ACC/SEC for recruites, they will also allow the B10 into Georgia.

Is the magic number 16, 18, or 20? If a 4 conference format is to take place, the B12 or ACC need to dissolve and I just do not see this happening.

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Jason…many conferences would want Tech. Great tv market in a big city location, a great football tradition (yes, down right now), and a top notch school that is a member of the AAU. Now, go look up AAU.

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There are so many ignorant people posting on here. GT is the most desirable member in ACC because of the TV market in Atlanta. Despite some myopic, I-was-educated-at-UGA view of the world, there are vast numbers of GT fans and graduates living in metropolitan Atlanta. The GT brand is internationally known for excellence in science and engineering. Georgia has an elite football program, no doubt. But Georgia Tech has an elite (Top 10 in the world) academic product. Cable operators are never happy when they pay more for content, but that is why the conferences are expanding and grabbing new media markets — negotiating leverage. Simple math concepts Dawg posters — just because there are more UGA fans in Atlanta, does not diminish the fact that there are large numbers of GT viewers as well. Moreover, GT fans tend to watch UGA play and vice versa. You would be able to come to that conclusion if your educational background included some form of critical thinking.

GT will be in the Big 10 soon enough unless the ACC builds its own network. The financial draw is simply too great.

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Wow, dude nuked my comment from overnight.

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Toxic

By combining their resources Big Ten schools bring in billions (yes billions) of dollars of federal grant money that dwarfs the millions of dollars made by the Big Ten channel and football. Getting a piece of this pie will be a major reason GA Tech joins the Big 10.

The B1G is an athletic conference. It has no bearing on their grant money, which is applied for individually by each institution or university. No school gets more or less research money because of their athletic conference.

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This whole expansion mess is just that, a mess. The experts may think tv money and football drive everything, but you simply can’t toss aside what made you great (basketball), and try to replace it with something you’ve never been good at (football). As a Wolfpack lifetime rights ticket holder, I’ve watched ACC officials dump our longstanding rivalries with Duke and UVA, plus threaten to cut back the UNC-NCSU rivalry so more expansion teams can fill our schedule. Do they honestly think fans will flock to Carter-Finley Stadium to watch a home schedule that could look like BC, Wake, Syracuse, Pitt, Central Michigan, South Alabama and one more OOC directional school?

Under John Swofford, we’re stuck with 6 former Big East schools plus a partial 7th member who will keep its football money and take our best bowl slot. We’ve lost ACC charter member Maryland, but our local press honestly thinks that Louisville is a great replacement. I just want to play our natural geographic rivals, not some outpost castoff Big East team that has landed here because there’s nowhere else to go. The Big East tv market is a pro market, regardless of how many more tvs the ACC or B1G thinks it’ll bring in. There is a big difference between college and pro fans.

Most people here think we’re headed for 4 superconferences. I agree. The ACC won’t emerge as one of those leagues, and that’s why I look for the arrogant UNC and UVA to be at least a B1G target. The SEC in my opinion has nothing to gain by adding FSU, Clemson or GT since their footprint is already in those 3 states, but adding VT and NCSU would make a lot of sense. The Raleigh tv market is equal to the Charlotte market and I believe both are in the top 30, not 50, nationally.

I never wanted to see the Wolfpack bolt the ACC, but after years of supporting their program and watching our once-loved conference turn into the hated Big East, I’m all for getting out of Dodge while we can. FSU certainly must feel the same way, after going 10-1 with a 1-point road loss being their only blemish yet being only 10th in the BCS Poll.

Fire John Swofford.

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You always have a little bit of a complex when your school is not perceived to be the academic equal of it’s biggest rival. (Tech>UGa; UVa>VaTech; UNC>NCState; Vandy>Tenn. And this is especially exacerbated by the fact that you may have not been accepted by >school. It often turns into hate.

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REAL HEADLINE- BIG 10 NOT INTERESTED IN TEK!!

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Yes, we are insanely jealous that there are “rumors” that Georgia Tech will be joining the Big 10. I’m just green with envy.

The only thing I’m jealous about is that I wish my head was as far up my azz as Tech fans’ are. It must be nice to be so blissfully ignorant. Honestly, I can see the appeal. You beat us once in 12 years and you have the balls to say we’re jealous of your joke program? LMFAO.

Here’s the deal Techies. You’re 20-18 the past 3 seasons and currently the laughing stock of college football for needing a charity handout to even make it to a crap bowl game. Your bitter rival that you hate with every fiber of your being just beat the everloving crap out of you 45-12 (but we’re soooooo jealous of Tech). This is a perfect time for you to drum up some total BS about joining the Big 10 in a desperate attempt to make your pile of crap football program seem relevant. You clowns do crap like this all the time. Its laughable, delusional and, worst of all, pathetic.

All of this would be very mean if it wasn’t 1,000 percent true.

Georgia Tech=JOKE

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If ACC and SEC fans in Atlanta already watch SEC games, exactly how does adding GT to the SEC help the SEC in Atlanta?

That’s like Chick-fil-a building another metro Atlanta location and calling it a huge expansion into a new market.

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There are some rash comments on this blog about what the Big Ten universities do or not do. Some basic research regarding the Association of American Universities and collaboration on federally-funded research, and the cooperation among Big TenConference universities in research can lead to better conclusions.

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Tech will NEVER be invited back to the SEC. Burnt bridges from when they foolishly left still a factor. But biggest reason is the same as why FSU nor Clemson will ever get in. If you’re UGA, UF or SC, why would you ever vote to bring in a lesser in state program. Tech in the SEC doubles their athletic budget right off the bat. Not going to happen.

What will happen if this Tech, FSU and Clemson thing happens and the ACC implodes is that the SEC will swoop in and grab UNC and Virginia. Both fit, bring new markets and don’t step on any current member schools toes.

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If Tech loses tonight, then I can see the announcement coming Monday. If they win, then probably not until after the Orange Bowl. Maybe all this is just whistling in the wind but it does appear to be a rumor that has legs especially since there are no denial coming out of the B10 offices. Very real probability that a confidentiality/ non-disclosure agreement has been signed between parties prohibiting them speaking on the subject.

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I wouldn’t buy into any of this BIG10 stuff. Bud Peterson seems pretty committed to staying in the ACC. I don’t think there is any ‘reading between the lines’ on this. Bud seems to be a straight shooter so I would tend to believe him.

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I notice the Dawg Trolls went into hiding after losing the SEC Championship.

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Fact Check

I notice the Dawg Trolls went into hiding after losing the SEC Championship.

lol I’m not even close to being a Georgia fan, but how was your 6-7 season? ahahahaha you’ll never be relevant in football again Tech, give up just give up

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You couldn’t be more incorrect. Let me say this again: the B1G, like the ACC, the SEC, the Big XII, are all SPORTS CONFERENCES. They do not play an academic role at all.

Just stop deluding yourself. This is from an article on al.com about SEC revenues:

David Ridpath, who defends academic integrity as executive director of The Drake Group, said major conferences are simply fulfilling their calling to make money for their members.

“Conferences don’t exist for academic reasons. They exist for monetary reasons and TV exposure.”

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Writing is On The Wall, the ACC will NOT be a Conference that will SURVIVE over the longhaul. Timing may be off ,but Florida State,Clemson and Virginia Tech cannot afford to remain in a WEAK Atlantic Coast with opportunities that may be available elsewhere. There will ONLY be Four Super Conferences, it just becomes an Issue of How Many per Conference,How Soon and Who is Going Where. CFor ANYONE to even suggest the ACC is worth SAVING……have You watched any of the Football? Doubtful, because very few even bother attending any of their Games. Even the Championship Game was Bust with tickets selling for FOUR Dollars! ACC Football STINKS!

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