Swofford: Tech committed to ACC
ACC commissioner John Swofford does not anticipate any member schools leaving the conference. That includes Georgia Tech.
On a teleconference with media members to discuss the addition of Louisville to the league, Swofford was asked about the possibility of schools leaving the ACC, as has been rumored.
“I do not envision that at all,” Swofford said. “In fact, just the opposite, based on the conversations among our Council of Presidents over the last 10 days.”
Swofford was asked specifically about conversations with Georgia Tech president G.P. “Bud” Peterson. The school has been the subject of rumors that it could be headed for the Big Ten.
Said Swofford, “The nature of our conversations has been emphatic in terms of their commitment to the ACC and Georgia Tech’s future.”
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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ERIK
November 28th, 2012
2:21 pm
1st
GT Willie
November 28th, 2012
2:21 pm
Well, who would really want us anyway?
The New ACC
November 28th, 2012
2:21 pm
I do think that the ACC will become one of the “super conferences” in the NCAA. These are conferences with 16 members, 2 divisions, and a football championship game.
1. ACC
2. Big 10
3. PAC 10
4. SEC
The others may or may not have a conference championship game and will include: Big East, Big 12, Sun Belt, etc.
The conference re-alignment is primarily to decide which teams are in which super conference. This decision is based primarily on television market. For example, the Big 10 wanted in the DC market, so they went after Maryland. The ACC wanted in the Kentucky market, so they went after Louisville. The television market size of the conference is what drives the dollars paid out.
The New ACC
November 28th, 2012
2:22 pm
@GT Willie – Have you ever added anything of value to blogs, or are you just a troll?
JFKDawg
November 28th, 2012
2:24 pm
Why wouldn’t they? Any other conference where you can have a .500 season and play for your conference championship? There is a reason its called the All Cupcake Conference.
Leaders and Legends
November 28th, 2012
2:24 pm
Yeah, would love to pad our stats some more with a program like Tech. We would pilfer the recruiting and television markets at their expense and treat them just like Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota in football, like punching bags.
George Stein
November 28th, 2012
2:24 pm
The Big XII is safe, New ACC, because they did the one thing that would prevent anyone from leaving the ACC: they executed a grant of rights agreement. If the ACC did that, all this nonsense would disappear.
joel
November 28th, 2012
2:24 pm
ACC, Big Ten , does it really matter. GT football has not been at a high level since O’leary left and looks like it never will be again.
Dwayne pn
November 28th, 2012
2:24 pm
Why would B1G want GT? Bc currently the B1G Network generates $0.10 per subscriber per month in the metro area. Add GT to the market that revenue jumps to $0.80 per subscriber. Thats a 700% increase. Once acknowledging the amount of B1G fans/alumni in the area you have a very profitable arrangement if GT is added. Duh.
Dwayne pn
November 28th, 2012
2:25 pm
GT went 11-3? in 2008. Better record than O’Leary ever posted. Dumb @ss
George Stein
November 28th, 2012
2:28 pm
A .500 team has played for the PAC-12 title and, I think, the Big XII title. It’ll happen eventually with all conferences.
The ACC didn’t choose Louisville for their market; they chose them because they are solid athletic addition, and the ACC said as much on the conference call today, according to the reports.
GT Willie
November 28th, 2012
2:28 pm
@ The New ACC. Just speaking the truth. I guess I really am the only visionary here.
George Stein
November 28th, 2012
2:29 pm
Pretty sure we went 9-4 in 2008 and 11-3 in 2009.
Einstein
November 28th, 2012
2:32 pm
“The ACC didn’t choose Louisville for their market; they chose them because they are solid athletic addition”
Yeah, just like the SEC chose Mizzou for their “solid athletic addition”. Give me a break.
joel
November 28th, 2012
2:38 pm
O’Leary beat UGA three years in a row ! Even the 11-3 GT team lost to UGA and had the ACC title taken away for violations.
JoeFan
November 28th, 2012
2:39 pm
Said Swofford, “The nature of our conversations has been emphatic in terms of their commitment to the ACC and Georgia Tech’s future.” Lets see how emphatic those conversatons are when the B10 extends an invitation. Lots of smoke out there for there not to be some fire.
GT Fan
November 28th, 2012
2:42 pm
Means nothing. What exactly did Nebraska and UV say before bolting? Oh yeah, the same thing about staying in their respective conferences.
We all know how that ended.
you can't fix stupid or bulldogs
November 28th, 2012
2:43 pm
Things can change when the AD comes in and a new Coach is found!
Math is Hard!
November 28th, 2012
2:46 pm
Gt would destroy every team in the B1G besides Michigan State. Bring it on!
Mike S.
November 28th, 2012
2:46 pm
You honestly cant trust what these guys say, or coaches for that matter. As soon as its out of their mouth, you then hear a report that they are leaving. All you can do is sit back and watch the dominos fall.
George Stein
November 28th, 2012
2:47 pm
If it was about markets, the conference would have invited UConn.
JM
November 28th, 2012
2:47 pm
I am looking forward to seeing many more ACC backetball games at McCamish
GTBob
November 28th, 2012
2:48 pm
Personally I would like to see the teams in the ACC make things work and build for the future. I don’t think people really consider how much of a change moving to the Big 10 would be.
Winks
November 28th, 2012
2:50 pm
I agree the football business will settle to a model with four super conferences. I also think that the schools contained in those conferences will re-align without consideration to other athletic programs — meaning the super conference model will not apply to other sports.
Somebody’s going to get left out in the cold, or the ACC and Big 12 will merge. Right now, the Big 12 carries more weight thanks to Texas and Oklahoma and Oklahoma State $. The ACC is way, way down in terms of football cache — especially with Notre Dame as a half member or whatever you’d call it. If ND joined in football, that’d help.
GT Fan
November 28th, 2012
2:51 pm
GTBob,
It would be a change for the better. God, the ACC is going to be the crappy 0-4 agaist SEC teams and the conference left overs known as the “Big Least”.
No thank you.
GTBob
November 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
GT Fan, if all you care about is football or money then yes its an upgrade. Overall though i’m not sure it would be worth it.
George Stein
November 28th, 2012
3:02 pm
The realignment thing feels like the housing bubble to me.
Skeptic
November 28th, 2012
3:03 pm
This has progressed far beyond silliness. It’s like the stock market almost.
Can I call my broker and short-sell on a school?
Buzzzed
November 28th, 2012
3:12 pm
If Tech bolts for the B1G, the ACCCG may be the last time we play F$U in a long time. I’ll miss the F$U and Clem games. That’s about it. And to hell with the ACC NC homer bball refs who have cheated GT out of many Duke victories.
Skeptic
November 28th, 2012
3:21 pm
So, firing coaches at the end of regular season was just too pedestrian I guess; now, everybody puts their conference on the hot seat, too? Fire it at the end of the season.
Meanwhile, everyone’s TV bill goes up and up. That $$ these schools are chasing doesn’t just materialize from nowhere. Good grief.
GT Alum
November 28th, 2012
3:21 pm
GTBob,
The B1G is also a quality conference with regard to academics and basketball. And quite frankly, it’s been pretty well illustrated that geography and tradition don’t matter in the world of conference realignment.
The big difference would be that Tech would be the only southern team in the B1G, depending on who else they add. Traveling to road games or to the conference championship would be more difficult than just driving to the Carolinas or Florida. Hell, even the farthest away school, BC, is not too far from an airport. Traveling to some B1G schools would be significantly more difficult.
4Jacks
November 28th, 2012
3:21 pm
GT may be all committed to the ACC at this time, but Swofford is distinctly the reason GT and all other non North Carolina schools should listen and consider all other offers. Swofford is a joke and has shown he will do anything to protect the biggest cheater in the conference “his’ almamater North Carolina, while the rest of the conference be damned. As a Tech fan wish we would have stayed in SEC although that conference really has very little rgard for “student” athleyes. The ACC is the best fit for Tech, but if BIG calls with a good offer I am gone and that hurts to even say. Face it, it is all about the money and it is ruining college sports.
222-0
November 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
i would miss the VT, FSU, Clemson and UVA games but if it is for our betterment then go for it.
The New ACC
November 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
@Winks -
I disagree with you about the Big 12. They are in big trouble. Texas refuses to share their football money with the conference. It is like the agreement that Notre Dame has with the ACC. The difference is that the ACC conference survives just fine without it – the Big 12 is suffering.
If the Big 12 can find other schools to join them, then maybe they can become the fifth “super conference”.
The ACC only needs two more schools to be a “super conference” and they already have UConn and another in line. The ACC does not need to merge with the Big 12 at all.
Tech1986
November 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
With 4 Superconferences of 16 teams each and 4 minor conferences with 10-12 teams, you can have a 16 team playoff and still preserve the “bowl” system. As a team loses, they can then be selected for a bowl game near new years. The final 2 teams will play an additional 4 games with the championship being decided the first week of the new year, No waiting 6 weeks for NCG, you start the week after the conference championships and finish buy first week of January. Top 16 teams go, no more than 3 from any super conference and 4 from “minor” conference. Also, teams will not be penalized for playing tough out of conference games, basically, you can have the top 3/4 from each super conference compete. The 4th place team still gets a bowl opportunity. No more playing FCS etc. We as fans get the best of both worlds, 34 meaningless bowl games and a true NCG. You basically say that as teams lose further in the playoff, more likely to go to a Sugar, Rose, Chick Fil La, similar to now. That way, if UGA or Bama where to lose this weekend,they are really playing for a seeding position. Just my thoughts as we start seeing 16 team conferences. You will have to play 9/10 league games and the 2 out of conference.
realistic fan
November 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
Who else would have Ga Tech. Maybe the Big East or the Conference USA. Tech should look around. Adding Louisville, Syracuse and Pitt puts them that further behind in basketball and Louisville is better in football than Maryland (or Tech) . Not looking good for Tech.
GTBob
November 28th, 2012
3:34 pm
Here is what I see as the plusses and minuses of going to the B1G:
+ More money
+ Better football
+ UGA game would get moved to another date or ended
+ Possibly recruiting
= Academics
= Basketball
- No tradition (we have only played 6 B1G games in our history)
- Travel
- Baseball would be killed
- Clemson/FSU/VT games are finished.
Its pretty even for me, but I feel the minuses are strong enough to not warrant a move.
Ken Sugiura
November 28th, 2012
3:53 pm
George – well put.
for those wanting out of the ACC – leaving a bad football conference for a better one doesn’t necessarily make you a better football team.
Chilidawg
November 28th, 2012
3:53 pm
Until Tech decides to play big boy football and stop cut blocking, the the Big Ten would not want them.
collegeballfan
November 28th, 2012
3:57 pm
I would think that GT, being a member of the AAU, would be a natural fit for the Big 10.
Jacket Attack
November 28th, 2012
4:01 pm
Were not leaving the ACC! Rumor has it that if we can convince Navy to come in the conference that Notre Dame will follow suit. I dont know why the irish care about the midshipmen but apparently they do!
Jacket Attack
November 28th, 2012
4:05 pm
Also I was thinking, What if the ACC worked a deal with NBC and we became there main conference like the Irish has the deal with them? You know the SEC has CBS? I think that would really push the ACC over the top.
The ATLER
November 28th, 2012
4:12 pm
I think Tech’s going to stay in the near future, but the ACC needs to get it’s football act together verses other conferences. And why do the mutt fans feel the need to always come on the Tech blog???!!!! Can someone please answer that question for me?
Captain
November 28th, 2012
4:24 pm
If GT is struggling in the pitiful ACC moving to the B1G would only magnify how bad football is. The only two men’s sports where GT could contend for championships in the B1G are golf and baseball. The B1G is not quite as poor quality football as the ACC but they are close.
As for GT’s record recently, wasn’t there a year where GT forfeited games and an ACC title?
fuzzybee78
November 28th, 2012
4:24 pm
Now add PSU another AAU school with a top 50 ranking and figure out how to make the money work. They are the PERFECT long term investment that eventually makes ND the final 16th full member.
Jacket Attack
November 28th, 2012
4:24 pm
Okay why would Tech leave for the big???? Sure you get more money now but the bigs fans arent going to travel and most around here arent going to travel there!!! Why would anyone drive from Atlanta to Indiana, Minnesota, or any other teams field? This would hurt what recruiting we have number one because no matter how old they are parents go to see there kids and there family play. Right now clemson, fla state, ugag, and the carolinas arent that bad of travel time. So ask yourself if you go two 3 away games a year would you do the same if we were in the other conference???? I think not!
Tech Forever
November 28th, 2012
4:35 pm
The New ACC,
“Texas refuses to share their football money.” Exactly what are you talking about there? Can you explain?
Tech Forever
November 28th, 2012
4:36 pm
I’ll say this emphatically…..if Tech leaves the ACC for the Big 10 every piece of Tech gear I own gets sent to Bud’s office. I’m done at that point. Leave for the Big 12 or SEC or don’t leave at all.
killerj
November 28th, 2012
4:43 pm
Hey Dog Fans! Remember This Cup Cake Has 4 NC,s To Your Little 1 NC,1 of only 2 school,s to win the 4 granddaddy bowl,s of them all,which I might add the second is going to “Roll” all over you this weekend! with that cup cake schedule you had this year.THWG!
Bad Dawg, Bad Dawg
November 28th, 2012
4:53 pm
JFK Dawg…..sort of like your “cupcake” season schedule in Athens. You played 2 teams. One humiliated you on national T.V. and the other beat themselves with turnovers. Yep, if Munson were still with us it would be “cupcakes falling from the sky”.
ole yeller
November 28th, 2012
4:57 pm
Where would Tech come up with the $50 million buy out to the ACC. For that matter how did Maryland?
WhoDatLofton
November 28th, 2012
4:57 pm
The Big 12 is not an equal share conference.
Einstein
November 28th, 2012
5:00 pm
Geez. Just to run away from Uga only to get boat raced annually by the likes of Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and probably Northwestern doesnt seem too rational or logical.
WhoDatLofton
November 28th, 2012
5:00 pm
Maryland is challenging the exit fee.
Born2Buzz
November 28th, 2012
5:02 pm
Maryland will find out quickly how much being in the B1G sucks. Maybe not so much for the football or basketball teams or the AA (new $$$) but certainly for the other sports and most definitely for the fans. First road trip to Iowa or Nebraska will be tons of fun.
GT fans don’t travel very well, even a 1-1/2 hour up the road to Athens. Imagine what travel would be like to B1G games..nonexistent. And like GTBob stated, baseball would be killed.
If all you want to do is play big boy football then you would consider it. Otherwise, not worth the hassle. And the realm of big boy football (SEC, Ohio St, Texas, USC, etc) is getting ready to blow up in my opinion. There are a lot more schools like GT than there are football factory schools. We may be on the verge of football completely changing from what we are used to.
Skeptic
November 28th, 2012
5:04 pm
Tech Forever,
I think he is referring to Texas’ use of the Longhorn Network.
I just can’t see being a fan of a school playing so far outside of it’s geographical and cultural region. ND does it simply because there’s Catholics everywhere. But GT playing Kansas or Northwestern every year? I don’t even know what you eat at the tailgate? Prairie dog? Lutefisk?
Born2Buzz
November 28th, 2012
5:08 pm
And the ACC just jumped Maryland and filed a lawsuit to make sure they pay the exit fee.
My friends from Baltimore are all dumbfounded by this decision. Just like they were when the new AD fired Friedgen to bring in his own guy. UMD is in the crapper right now.
Wild Bill
November 28th, 2012
5:08 pm
Georgia Tech is a natural fit for the ACC……both are big time losers. High school teams, with high school crowds, playing in high school stadiums. As if Tech wasn’t humiliated (again) enough last week in Athens, they are going to be embarrassed in Charlotte this Saturday……as if anyone cares. When a 6-6 team is a division “winner” and playing for a conference championship, it is pitiful. What is even more pitiful is their begging on hands and knees to be allowed to go to a bowl game with a 6-7 record.
docsbro
November 28th, 2012
5:18 pm
You Do realize that the GREAT O’leary LOST the other FIVE years he was coach? Oh and yes that was pretty much the “bottom” for UGA’s program. I am as big a Tech fan as there is, but Tech fans look in the mirror. The program needs more money to compete with the SEC.
Rick James
November 28th, 2012
5:31 pm
@GTBob
GT Fan, if all you care about is football or money then yes its an upgrade. Overall though i’m not sure it would be worth it.
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I know that you’re president of the Paul Johnson fan club but money would allow Tech to make a coaching change.You have stated many times that the reason he will not be fired is because the school cant afford the buyout.
Rick James
November 28th, 2012
5:35 pm
@GT Alum
Traveling to some B1G schools would be significantly more difficult.
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Traveling to Bobby Dodd seems difficult for some Tech fans.
Wrecker
November 28th, 2012
5:38 pm
Wild Bill: You are not wanted and your opinions are not heeded. Get out!
JFKDawg
November 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
@Bad Dog – schedules are set years in advance. Who knew TN, Auburn and Tech would suck so bad?
GTBob
November 28th, 2012
5:40 pm
You have stated many times that the reason he will not be fired is because the school cant afford the buyout.
Its a reason. Not the only reason. CPJ would not be fired right now even if someone won the powerball lottery and donated all of the money to Techs Athletic Department. Not everyone wants him gone as bad as you do Rick.
GTville
November 28th, 2012
5:47 pm
Lets face it 4-16 team conferences wont exist unless a big conference folds. PAC is too far so it wont, B10 is too secure as is the SEC. Teams from these conferences could be picked off, but the core would survive. ACC could be ripped to shreds, but I do not see the core disintegrating. The B12 is small and there are only a couple of teams any other conference would want (TX, OK, KS). B12 could be picked apart by everyone from PAC to ACC as they are closest to all.
Nobody wants:
ACC: Wake, Duke
SEC: Ole Miss, Miss State
B10: NW, Indiana, Minn, Wisc, Rutgers
B12: Iowa St, OK St, TCU, Baylor
These schools may have good teams on occasion, but either they are not good usually, in areas nobody wants to go; or too small.
Jacket
November 28th, 2012
6:18 pm
So why don’t we re-join the SEC? Do they just not want us? I saw one thing that says they don’t want multi-state schools but there’s great precedent in Miss and Ala.
I also think as things evolve the geographic distances will end up pulling conferences back closer again. Just doesn’t work well for lots of reasons.
Personally, I would love that. I miss playing Auburn and Tennessee like we used to. If it happened, would definitely miss playing Clemson. Don’t really care about losing VT or FSU. Or any others. Duke is an old rivalry but from my perspective meaningless.
Tell me what I’ve missed with SEC please. That seems the most natural to me. And my gut says the ACC is on thin ice so we need some options. B1G just too far away my opinion.
Realist
November 28th, 2012
6:22 pm
Why wouldn’t they be committed to the ACC? Where they going to go? Conference USA? Never should have left the SEC. BIG MISTAKE.
Paul in NH
November 28th, 2012
6:24 pm
I find the realignment of college football profoundly depressing and just reflective of how corrupt college athletics has become. “Institutes of higher education” whose alleged mission is education, research, teaching, are making decisions based on the money available from their “athletic/entertainment” arm – and let’s make sure we maximize our profits by keeping costs for the performers low.
The US may be dropping down all of the world rankings for math, science, etc. but hey who cares when there is money to be made by jumping from the ACC to the B1G.
Paul in NH
November 28th, 2012
6:27 pm
Jacket
The SEC doesn’t want GT because they have nothing to gain from them. They won’t get 1 red cent more from the TV or the gate with GT in the conference. For the B1G there is the exposure in the southeast and the possibility of getting the BTN on the local cable companies.
GFJacket
November 28th, 2012
6:34 pm
Born2Buzz, the big change will come in 2016. It looks like many athletes that qualify today won’t in the future. Will this help Tech, or force the traditional football powerhouses to take kids that would have gone to Tech?
According to ESPN, the NCAA’s new eligibility standards for prospective student-athletes go into effect for the 2016 class but begin applying to this fall’s high school freshmen. To be eligible for a scholarship and compete at a Division I institution, a high school student must have done the following:
16: Number of core courses required for NCAA eligibility
10: Number of core courses that must be completed by the beginning of a high school athlete’s senior year
7: Number of 10 initial core courses that must be in English, math or science
2.3: Minimum GPA in those 16 core courses (up from 2.0)
2.5: Minimum GPA for junior college transfer
According to NCAA statistics:
15.3: Percentage of student-athletes who enrolled in 2009-10 but would not meet the 2016 academic standards
35.2: Percentage of football players who enrolled in 2009-10 but would not meet the 2016 academic standards
43.1: Percentage of men’s basketball players who enrolled in 2009-10 but would not meet the 2016 academic standards.
PLAY ORWIN
November 28th, 2012
6:41 pm
SO IS ORWIN PLAYING? FORGET THE REST OF THE NEWS
Rick James
November 28th, 2012
6:43 pm
@GTBob
Its a reason. Not the only reason. CPJ would not be fired right now even if someone won the powerball lottery and donated all of the money to Techs Athletic Department. Not everyone wants him gone as bad as you do Rick.
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Bob as a Georgia fan I hope they give Paul Johnson a lifetime contract.But Tech is a great institution and deserves better than a mid-major/FCS football coach.He should be fired just his arrogence alone.
Graphite
November 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
Tech would do better in the Ivy Lge.
Atomic Dog
November 28th, 2012
6:53 pm
Are the ACC kicking the bees out of the ACC?
USMC DAWG
November 28th, 2012
6:55 pm
After watching the game in Athens last weekend, I wonder if GT BOB now understands that Defense WINS football games???
Atomic Dog
November 28th, 2012
6:56 pm
Bees…should move to the Southern Conference. It is a perfect fit.
Atomic Dog
November 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
GT and Calhoun would be a great game.
42 40 calhoun
Born2Buzz
November 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
GFJacket, that will mean the football factory schools will tell the NCAA to go stuff it and they will band together for a semi-pro league. The SEC will be the ring leader. Vandy will drop out and the SEC will pick up the obvious other schools from the B1G, Big12 & PAC, (OK, Texas, Ohio St, Michigan, USC, Oregon, maybe even FSU & Clemons). A few SEC schools other than Vandy might drop (Missou, Ole Miss, Kentucky).
They will forget about the pretense of having “student athletes” and let the payments get out in the open. They will have their own league with a playoff and it will be wildly successful.
All the other schools will remain in the NCAA and play college football again. GT might be very successful in the new NCAA.
Born2Buzz
November 28th, 2012
6:59 pm
Atomic Dog, thanks for perpetuating the stereotype.
Delbert D.
November 28th, 2012
7:20 pm
I’m surprised that no school has contested conference exit fees under restraint of trade principles. My preference at this time is for Georgia Tech to join the Big Ten if asked. I watch more Big Ten football than any other conference, discounting the Georgia Tech games. I can’t recall the last ACC game I watched other than a Tech game.
superDawg
November 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
I want a waiver on my next comment.
Delbert D.
November 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
Let me correct a serious misstatement in my last post. It should read, “Other than the SEC, I watch more Big Ten football than any other conference, discounting the Georgia Tech games.” I grew up as a fan of good, competitive football, and I remain so. Tech was in the SEC back then, so I’ve had to adapt a bit.
Skeptic
November 28th, 2012
7:34 pm
Born2Buzz
November 28th, 2012
6:59 pm
Atomic Dog, thanks for perpetuating the stereotype
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WINNER
Big10 Fan.
November 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
How good are the football programs at Auburn, Ky, Miss St, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and Tenn? And what do SEC fans do during BB season when they aren’t watching Ky? I believe I’d rather be in ACC since I am interested in both BB and FB. Just look at UGa hoops program. Do their fans not care about BB. Why do BB players not want to go to SEC?
dry dirt road
November 28th, 2012
7:43 pm
Tech needs to join the conference that McNeese State is in, wherever they are, probably the same one as Slippery Rock, Northern and Middle Tennessee. Tech can’t beat Middle Tennessee, and MT could not beat McNeese. That means Tech, if they insist on keeping CPJ, should drop down to Div II or 1A or whatever it is called. CPJ is on a level with mountain hillbillys and not big city slickers. People who have said that being connected with Tech is painful right now are exactly correct, and this started with Radikovich. See how Clemson has lost every game since Radikovich went there? That’s because Radikovich Favors LSU and the SEC more than the ACC.
GB's Hamburgers
November 28th, 2012
7:50 pm
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TeknocratNOTdemokrat
November 28th, 2012
7:50 pm
good grief…troll city today. dwagz really think they gotta chance, apparently. 24 – 7 Bama, dwagz limp home agin.
GB's Hamburgers
November 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
Tech would prosper in the SEC. They would be playing their natural rivals again which would bring the fans back. They would recruit better too. I would like to see Tech and Clemson in the SEC.
Toadster
November 28th, 2012
7:54 pm
Big10Fan. Let’s not look at the UGA hoops program and just say we did. OK
l jones
November 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
My sources say Ga Tech and Boston College are headed to the Pac 12. The conference TV market will stretch out quite a bit.
Toadster
November 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
Thanks for your contributions Rick James. Could you get your daughter to help you with your homework?
Concerned
November 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
First of all, the ACC should not mention academics or student-athletes when the league adds Louisville…seriously, Louisville – well, at least Clemson moves up one.
Second of all, the SEC will not add Tech because all of the schools want to keep that recruiting advantage over Tech…that, and Tech scorned the SEC in ‘63, behind the great Bobby Dodd’s brilliant leadership, and payback is hell.
dry dirt road
November 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
Tech right now would be Best suited to go up Peachtree Industrial Blvd. and pull up to the front of Oglethorpe and play their football team inside the castle wall. This would have been more competitive than playing Georgia. Since CPJ didn’t innoculate the team for the flu, he should be fired. And the pink GTs are thumbs down, pink ribbons on field thumbs up. No gold helmets against any team Tech has lost to wearing them more than won if white helmets were available. CPJ is disorganized, fails to understand the need to toss it forward in shotguns via passing, not backyard in tosses that Georgia had covered man to man for each backward receiver. You don’t dscore going backwards. CPJ has to go. Bring Joe Hamilton in as coach.
danny
November 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
I have never blogged before and I probably won’t again. I have followed college football for 50 years. I grew up a UGA fan and graduated there 40 yrs ago. A perfect Saturday for me has always been Georgia wins and Tech loses. I have seen Bear Bryant , Shug Jordan, Vince Dooley, Frank Howard and many other great coaches. Through the years, when these greats would lose they would always take the blame for not having their team ready or they called the wrong play. Even Steve Spurrier takes the blame when his team loses. Earlier this year when UGA lost to Carolina, Richt said it was a team butt whipping including the coaching staff. I did not like Bobby Dodd because he coached Tech, same with Chan Gailey. I don’t respect Paul Johnson as a man. he is like Fonz who couldn’t say he was wrong. Al Groh’s D was too complicated, his players didn’t give enough effort, they ran the wrong way, I don’t value the star rating system and so on. He berates players on the sideline as they come off the field and he never goes to laud them on great plays. I am grateful that my school has Mark Richt and I look forward to the day that i can dislike the Tech coach because he is the Tech coach and not because he is an arrogant, aloof leader of men
dry dirt road
November 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
CPJ is just in big city consuming his head off with his big city ACC salary, and really offering nothing back to Tech.
l jones
November 28th, 2012
8:15 pm
Seriously, if Tech is smart, they’d leap at a Big Ten invitation. Football home games against Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, etc, compared to NC State, Wake Forest, Duke, etc. Just like Georgia’s basketball problem is a lack of interest, so is Tech’s football problem. Don’t give me the academic integrity crap. Check the average SAT scores. Tech’s athletes are as stupid as everybody else’s. Join the Big Ten and you fill up Grant Field. Tech is just as much about money as everybody else is.
Skeptic
November 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
Concerned,
No one within 1000 miles of this blog remembers who Bobby Dodd was without wiki-ing it on their Borg-gizmo. Payback may be hell, but $$$$ talks. Look at how Baylor forced the old SWC to bring them into the Big12. Gov was an alum.
On the other hand, SEC figures no need to conquer the same territory twice, therefore diluting the spoils by half. A sound strategy, in my opinion. If your goal is hoarding dollars, that is.
dry dirt road
November 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Tech needs to join an academic conference such as the Ivy League. I don’t think the players want to compete with athletes, and instead want to compete with Harvard types, Ivy leaguers, Stanford maybe, the schools highly ranked in academic areas. I really don’t think Tech feels it has a chance against big football schools like Georgia which are basically an extension of high school since so many coeds go to them, or against Alabama. Duke would be a good conference member, and North Carolina….maybe. Tech should try to form a new conference with the highest SAT scores and admission standards. Their days of trying to sucker everybody who enrolls at Tech into believing they can field competitive sports teams with anybody are over. All those Rats in the band with the geeky Rat caps on are not applicable to the most athletic competition schools such as BYU.
Bring back Jim Donnan
November 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
Any one have insight on the next Def Coord? I vote for Brian Van Gorder – he is out of a job and has history here with a stint in Athens and the Falcons – any comments?
JoeFan
November 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
GT wanted back into the SEC but UGA vetoed the move. FL also has veto privileges over FSU and USCe can do the same to any invitation that might go out to Clemson.
dry dirt road
November 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
Big 10 bust, what’s so big about CPJ’s anti-shotgun offense that refuses to use a tight end? Tech needs Small 10, not Big 10. Like I say, I think the players are on strike and want to hit the brary and get employed in a white collar job, and are trying to grasp every written letter and number available on the hill to do this. But when they don’t get flu shots that sets them back in their pursuit.
dry dirt road
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
Louisville can join but they sure aren’t on the Atlantic Coast.
dry dirt road
November 28th, 2012
8:39 pm
I tell ya, I’ve had it with the new Tech. When I went there it was entirely different, from 39 to 43 years ago, and was a valuable education. But now Tech is so disorganized that I’m glad I’m long gone from there. I don’t believe I’ll be interested in watching the ACC Championship game. It’ll be too rinky dink for me. Very feeble minded on Tech’s part.
GFJacket
November 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
I Jones, Tech’s football team has the highest SAT scores of any public university in America. That, combined with its limited academic offerings (no liberal arts programs), limits the pool of athletes it can target.
l jones
November 28th, 2012
8:51 pm
GFJacket, That’s nonsense.
dawgfan
November 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
Tech can’t even sell its allotment for the UGA game, the biggest game on your laugable schedule, but you dolts think Georgia Tech would be some big draw for the Big 10? LMAO. Unbelievable.
ACC Fan
November 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
On the subject of academic prowess, UGa has had 22 Rhode Scholars over the years, while Vanderbilt has had 26. In contrast, UNC has had 42.
l jones
November 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
ACC Fan, On the subject on academic prowess. Of course, UNC has about 30,000 students compared to Vanderbilt’s 13,000. Statistics can be manipulated, as I’m sure you know.
ACC Fan
November 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
Well I believe UNC has no more than 25k undergrads, and they cater primarily to HS grads fr the state of NC, to include manty Afro Americans that Vanderbilt would not admit. UNC accepts a much smaller percentage of out of state students than does Vanderbilt. UNC is truly a university of the people. Vanderbilt serves the elite from outside of Tenn. One would have as much trouble getting into UNC as they would getting into Vandy, especially if you consider out of state applicants trying to get into UNc – harder even than Duke, which is Vandy’s daddy.
Prometheus
November 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
I jones, did not sense ACC Fan manipulated stats. Seems like he simply stated a fact.
Supersize that order, mutt
November 28th, 2012
9:30 pm
On the subject of academic prowess, Tech has one Rhodes Scholar for this year. How many do those other schools have this year?
Prometheus
November 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
UNC has one for sure.
Prometheus
November 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
So does UGa
Supersize that order, mutt
November 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Very unusual for a predominantly engineering school to have any at all, although MIT and Cal Tech have had quite a few
GT Fan
November 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
Wild Bill
November 28th, 2012
5:08 pm
Georgia Tech is a natural fit for the ACC……both are big time losers. High school teams, with high school crowds, playing in high school stadiums.
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You can’t make-up this kind of comedy.
Let’s see, Bill:
Tennessee plays “college football” in the nations biggest stadium.
Auburn plays “college football” in a stadium with an 85,000+ capacity
Oregon plays “college football” in a stadium (54,000) that is smaller than GT’s.
The only reason UT isn’t 0-8 in the SEC is b/c they got to play UK. AU…yeah, they’re good.
Oregon, on the other hand, how do they do it only playing in front of 54,000 fans?
Skeptic
November 28th, 2012
9:53 pm
JoeFan
November 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
GT wanted back into the SEC but UGA vetoed the move. FL also has veto privileges over FSU and USCe can do the same to any invitation that might go out to Clemson.
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Sorry, dude, but this is simply regurgitation of really old food. Unless you can cite a source, it’s Scheissen from EDSBS or something. It’s as dumb as saying that Ole Miss or MSU can be kicked out. (sound of lawyers salivating)
bill
November 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
My post was lost somehow..Curious….ACC had to have taken Louisville to appease FSU and Clemson. U Conn is better market( as Cincy would be).Swofford had to convince Presidents that Louisville would be better fit. Think FSU and Clemson would want another Northern team? Louisville has a poor academic rep ( see espn report), UConn doesn’t.
Swofford knows Big 12 will be calling FSU, Clemson and maybe Tech and Miami to survive. Doubt FSU and Clemson would get by veto from Florida and So Car to get in SEC, so Big 12 is logical poacher.Swofford has to do something to keep FSU and Clemson from getting itchy. If anyone thinks Big 12 won’t attempt to get FSU and Clemson at the very least is fooling themselves.
Does make you wonder where Tech is at this point in their thought processes about the BIG.
d1reality
November 28th, 2012
11:24 pm
“”Until Tech decides to play big boy football and stop cut blocking, the the Big Ten would not want them”"
Spoken like someone who just got 300+ yards rushing run up on them
fan
November 29th, 2012
12:10 am
The truth of the matter is Georgia Tech belongs in Division 3, or NAIA. IF Tech played Georgia Souhern they would lose by 25 points and App. State would stomp them as well. Camden Co. high school would give Tech fits.
allen beech
November 29th, 2012
12:55 am
UGA played a Cup Cake schedule. They got rolled by South Carolina and only beat Florida with 6 gift turnovers. They did not play either LSU, or Alabama. They replaced Alabama with Missouri
who is errible. GT had a bad week before playing UGA having to attend classes and half the team in the infermary with Flu,
GTville
November 29th, 2012
1:41 am
I think conference realignment is done for at least 3 more years. No changes. In 3 years the B12 will have evaluated if they make enough $ without going big and Notre Dame will know if they need a conference….which this year tells them they do not.
ggp
November 29th, 2012
5:50 am
Notre Dame is the deciding factor. If they join the ACC (full time), the conference will thrive. If ND continues to dance independently, GT should move to the BIG. Notre Dame brings more TV viewers than any other college team…by far. My gut feeling is that ND will join the ACC with Navy.
blackandwhitestripes
November 29th, 2012
7:09 am
+1 but they are about to play a real football Team. Rolllllll Tide!!!!!!!
Sideways 77
November 29th, 2012
8:33 am
I vote to stay in the ACC but I would not mind dropping UGA from our schedule and adding Notre Dame. To hell to hell with ND……..
Just A Comment
November 29th, 2012
10:00 am
Glad to Know What UNC Johnny Thinks. What is Tech saying? And Shouldn’t the Fearless Leader of the ACC be concerned with all those titles and championships won by academically eligible student athletes only eligible from fraudulant courses at UNC. Academic Fraud would make a few sweetshirts seem trival. So how many ACC Titles and potential National Titles does UNC stand to forfeit to the ACC League Office? The point is anybody but UNC and Duke staying in the ACC under Swofford ain’t just dumb but D$mn DUMB.
cpj
November 29th, 2012
10:17 am
joel
November 28th, 2012
2:38 pm
O’Leary beat UGA three years in a row ! Even the 11-3 GT team lost to UGA and had the ACC title taken away for violations.
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Of course we cheated to get these wins. The NCAA vacated them until we cried so hard they reinstated them. We always lie, cheat, steal and whine.
Steve
November 29th, 2012
10:32 am
Ken I was just wondering why we’re not seeing much coverage here about our basketball team. I think there are some legitimate reasons to be excited about this team. We competed well last night against a very good Illinois team and they beat a good St. Mary’s team over the weekend. I’m not sure we’ll be a tournament team but I’ve liked what I’ve seen so far.
the answer for GT
November 29th, 2012
11:09 am
build a new conference. two divisions:
East made up of GT, Citadel, Elon College, Wofford and Catawba College.
West made up of Georgia State, U of Chatanooga, UT @ Martin, Samford and Millsaps College.
The Conference championship game could be played in Atlanta at Grady HS’s Cheney Stadium.
THis game could be viewed in at least 4 metro Atlanta counties.
GT’s future in football is very bleak. NO following does Tech bring to the table. No brand awareness for Tech, pbeyond Fulton Counry and The Varsity.
Empty argument it is
November 29th, 2012
11:14 am
GT fans argue that UGA played cupcakes. Yes,we did and that includes Tech.
UGA won 11 games however and Tech with their baby soft schedule only won 6 and was humiliated by cupcake UGA.
The pollsters ranked UGA, not the UGA fan base, you morons.
College Football is KING
November 29th, 2012
11:21 am
This is why any GT fan’s argument about BB and baseball doesn’t hold up. Football is KING and I dont care a bit about the other sports. Your only hope for your conference was DUke and UNC but the “one and dones” are killing those programs, like UK. Get over yourself GT fans. Who cares about your academics? Who cares that you are a little brother to all other engineering schools in the country. You are certainly our little brother (insert Noogie here) and enjoy the ride when the other conferences cast lots for the one or two remaining tv markets in your little brother football conference.
UGA = Yawn
November 29th, 2012
12:07 pm
People are confused. Notre Dame HAS joined the ACC. So what is all this ‘if’ stuff? They are in the ACC starting in 2014 I believe. They will play a limited football schedule but they are a member of the ACC. And to ‘Joel’ from a few days ago – you are so right. O’Leary has been our best coach of the last few we’ve had.
UGA = Yawn
November 29th, 2012
12:10 pm
And PS: UGA’s regular season games did NOT include LSU, Alabama or Texas A&M – 3 of the best teams in the conference. USC, also a good team, smashed UGA and Florida barely lost and only did because of 6 turnovers.
Birmingham Jacket
November 29th, 2012
12:26 pm
We will end up in the Big 10 by 2014.
FSU and Clemson aren’t going to hang around in this poor excuse for a conference either.
Swafford is full of it.
The ACC is going to end up being the old Big East, and you can bet your bottom dollar our new AD isn’t going to tolerate our being stuck here.
Being in the ACC really hurts our recruiting.
This is not new news. There were rumors before D Rad even left.
Prometheus
November 29th, 2012
12:36 pm
A Rhodes (roads) Scholar in the SEC is a civil engineering student at Miss St.
B1G Commish
November 29th, 2012
12:38 pm
We are making an additional division especially for GT to go along with Leaders and Legends; it’s called “LOSERS”.
dawgfan
November 29th, 2012
12:43 pm
Reality check time. Tech fans act like they are above the ACC. You are 20-18 the past 3 seasons. You can’t win the crap bowl games you play against crap teams. Georgia Tech is the epitome of mediocre crap that defines ACC football. The Big 10 wants no part of Tech or Atlanta. This is hardcore SEC turf. If you want to join the Big 10 take your trade school up north and don’t let the door hit you in the azz on the way out. You and all of your whining will not be missed.
Now, if Conf USA calls I could see that happening. That’s more Tech’s speed.
GT Lee
November 29th, 2012
1:02 pm
” You can’t win the crap bowl games you play against crap teams.”
You know a lot about crap, dwagfan. I guess that’s why you are “CMR’s Official Poo Inspector”.
Thanks
lithe cpin
November 29th, 2012
1:03 pm
TX A& M, LSU, nor Alabama played UGA. This reality ws driven bymthe conference, not by Dr. Adams or CMR.
factoid:
UGA WHUPPED Florida. They whipped BOTH Tx A&M and LSU. UGA WILL WHUP ALABAMA.
CASE CLOSED.
GO DOGS !!
GT needs NEW RIVALS
November 29th, 2012
1:08 pm
here are some candidates to become GT rivals:
Samford, Belhaven College, U of N. Alabama, Jacksonville State and GEORGIA SOUTHERN COULD BECOME TECH’S NUMBER ONE RIVAL !!!
TECH has no business , even in the all cupcake conference.
dawgfan
November 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
No GT Lee, I just watch Georgia Tech football every once in a while. I watched it this past Saturday and it was one of the most incompetent and uninspired performances out of a supposedly BCS level team that I have ever seen. I can think of worse things than “crap” to describe it but it would probably get me banned from these blogs.
Big 10? Only in the same delusions that you have about beating Georgia. Tech fans should check themselves in to a mental institution.
Thanks.
Ken Sugiura
November 29th, 2012
1:31 pm
fair question. it’s mostly just me, and we’re still in football season. they’ll get their turn.
danny
November 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
Yale was once a prominent football powerhouse like Ga Tech. maybe Tech can present their academic delimma to the Ivy league and apply for admission. Is any team in that league familiar with the Spread Option?
NBTTruth
November 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
As a Georgia native, GT alum, and huge football fan, I can say that I will be done with GT football if we go to the B1G. I would rather stay in the struggling ACC and retain at least some of our southern tradition than join that pansy yankee conference a million miles away.
No one in the south cares about OSU, MICH, NEB, etc. when we have the best football product in the country right here in the south. Moving to the B1G would KILL us with southern recruits. We would turn into Northwestern in a few years and be completely irrelevant forever. Oh, and NOBODY CARES ABOUT BASKETBALL! As many yankees and foreigners as Tech has been admitting, please do not forget that we are a GEORGIA public school. We are in the south, where football is king. Please, move back to Big East land up north if you want to watch basketball schools with crap football.
Now, we have not been very good the past few years. We are getting killed in the recruiting game by the big name SEC schools in our back yard. BUT…the recruits are all around us! If we could give them something to be excited about and increase to even top 25 in recruiting then we would have a very solid team most years! It can be done! Look at our 07 class. Look what has happened at Vandy with their exciting new coach.
We are in a slump, which only builds on itself by scaring away more recruits, but we are not dead yet. I promise, if we get away from southern football competition, we are done for.
The absolute best thing that could happen to Tech would be to get back to the SEC…a longshot, I know. The SEC may not “gain” a ton from getting GT, but letting the B1G into Atlanta through GT would be a negative. I’ve still got my fingers crossed.
Other than the SEC, I say we stick with the ACC until the other southern schools, FSU, Clem, VT, UVA, start dropping. Then we pair up with one of them, hopefully in the B12, if not SEC.
B1G means the DEATH of GT football.
bill
November 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
Man, you gotta’ love GT posters who claim to be alums who “don’t care about Basketball ” or any other sport besides football…….true blue Tech fan for sure.
Think VERY few of us would want Tech in the BIG….but that is a possibility. Especially if something like FSU and Clemson bail. The SEC is never going to happen. That bird has flown long ago. Let’s hope the ACC is enough for FSU.
But if Tech ever did leave, bet you Miami would go wherever we go.FSU and Clemson are tied together. So would be Tech and the Canes.
Jacket Man
November 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
Just for the record, in case anyone noticed or even cares, the comment was the Jackets were “committed” to the ACC, but it didn’t say for how long. In other words, if the BIG comes to GA Tech and makes an inquiry about whether they’d be interested in joining, the “commitment” to the ACC may not be quite so “firm” any more.
bill
November 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
Kind of like the Clemson comment few months ago that they were committed to the ACC but were open to improving their status if the right situation presented itself.
Makes you wonder what is going on as far as who has the BIG called…
Also, guess UNC HAD to e-mail everyone and tell them the ACC was their sole intent. Sort of like that coach who states “I have not been contacted by(BlanK) University about their current opening…” when he is actually making himself known to be interested in that opening without actually saying so directly.
Prometheus
November 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
I see Clemson, FSU, VaTech and other fans continually throwing darts at ACC Commissioner John Swafford. People who matter know the quality of Swafford. Swafford, a Morehead Scholar, has risen to the top everywhere he has been. If he were not a man among men, the AD’s and university presidents with whom he has worked would surely have moved to depose him had they not have complete confidence in his leadership. Especially with all the competition and jealousy that permeates college sports. Bloggers are in many cases not high powered intellects.
Tech Guy
November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Radakovitch left Tech in big debt which they cannot afford. The annual debt burden will be about one fourth of GTAA’s budget. Tech would accept a BIG 10 offer, since GTAA is in desparate need of a source of income.
Ken Sugiura
November 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
tech guy – i believe you’re overstating the debt service a little bit. the total debt is greater and debt service is expected to peak at 18 percent of budget, but will go back down. that said, tech could use cash.
Richard
November 30th, 2012
12:47 pm
Then “Bud” is just as much of an idiot as Eric Barron at FSU. Schools like FSU, Clemson, Ga Tech and Miami have no business in the ACC. Unfortunately, FSU, Clemson and Miami have no where else to go. Ga Tech, if the Big 10 comes knocking and you don’t take it…..then you are one of the STUPIDEST engineering schools on the friggin planet. If they come calling, you better leave. Do it for all of us FSU fans that would sell our souls to the devil for an SEC or Big 12 invite. And since neither is ever going to happen, we will stay on the ACC vine and die a very slow and VERY painful death!
Is the Fire getting Hotter?
November 30th, 2012
3:05 pm
http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2012/11/30/3710442/georgia-tech-approved-by-big-ten-conference-expansion
TEXAS DAWG
December 1st, 2012
12:15 am
No team from the ACC is going anywhere until the courts decide what it is going to cost Maryland to leave.