Tech notes: Orwin Smith remains sidelined

1. Georgia Tech A-back Orwin Smith did not practice Tuesday as his recovery continues from an ankle injury that kept him out of the Georgia game. Smith said Monday that he thinks he will be able to play Saturday in the ACC title game against Florida State.

“We’d love to have Orwin play, he’s one of our better players, but if he doesn’t play, you can’t worry about it,” coach Paul Johnson said. “You have to move on.”

Smith is Tech’s most explosive offensive player, averaging 9.0 yards per carry and 61.2 rushing yards per game. Against Georgia, backup A-backs Synjyn Days, B.J. Bostic and Deon Hill rotated into the game in Smith’s stead.

Center Jay Finch suffered an undisclosed injury during Tuesday’s practice and did not finish. Finch’s backup is Catlin Alford.

2. ACC senior associate commissioner Michael Kelly declined to comment on the possibility of Tech bypassing the Sun Bowl if the Jackets were to lose to Florida State and fall to 6-7 and receive a bowl-eligibility waiver. The Sun Bowl is contractually obligated to take the ACC runner-up if it is available, but Tech played in the Sun Bowl last year. Tech acting athletic director Paul Griffin said the school would be open to going to a bowl below the Sun Bowl in the selection order, such as the Belk Bowl in Charlotte Dec. 27 or the Music City Bowl in Nashville Dec. 31.

Sun Bowl executive director Bernie Olivas acknowledged that “I think anybody would have a problem” selling tickets for a team that is 6-7. The Sun Bowl, which sells most of its tickets to its El Paso, Texas, community, would have an extra challenge in that potential ticket buyers likely would want to see a different team regardless of record.

Were the Jackets to go to El Paso again, Olivas said, “We’ll treat ’em like we treat all the other teams – the best we can.”

3. In response to Johnson’s comments that the team showed a “lack of competing” against Georgia, quarterback and team captain Tevin Washington said he wanted to see more out of the team.

“I feel like it got to a point in the game, where things aren’t going right, you want to see a little bit more out of your team,” he said. “That should make you want to do better.”

Washington added that there were individuals who continued to do their best, “but for the team overall, I don’t think the team played as well as we should have in that situation. You’ve got to be able to compete even when things are going bad.”

4. Quarterback Vad Lee has watched game video of all 12 of Florida State’s games this season. He did the same last week for the 11 games that Georgia had played to that point.

“I watched pretty much all the games so far, just trying to learn little keys and stuff like that,” he said. “I’m excited to play them. It’s a big stage for the team.”

5. Quarterbacks and B-backs coach Brian Bohannon on B-backs David Sims and Zach Laskey:

“I thought David came out, ran the ball extremely hard (against Georgia). He was finishing forward a bunch. Zach’s really gotten better as the year’s gone on, even though you may not see everything. There’s a lot of little things that he’s gotten better at. I think we’re getting going in the right direction.”

6. Both teams’ scoring capacity is demonstrated in an unusual statistic. Both Tech and FSU have had 15 different players score touchdowns this season, tied for ninth in FBS. Marshall leads with 19. Eight different players scored their first career touchdown for Tech this year, tied for seventh. Navy leads with 14.

7. Tech expects to sell about 5,000 tickets for Saturday’s game. The ticket office will continue to sell tickets up until game time. For more information, call 1-888-832-4849 or visit … The Weather Channel forecast for Saturday evening in Charlotte calls for mostly cloudy with a low of 41 degrees and a 20 percent chance of rain. … Game time for the game has been set for 8 p.m. with the broadcast on ESPN. Brent Musburger (play by play), Kirk Herbstreit (analyst) and Heather Cox (sideline) will have the call for the game.

In case you missed it…

Loaded FSU defense awaits Tech

‘Lack of competing’ against UGA

Tech applies for bowl-eligibility waiver

Tech tries to rebound vs. FSU

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

50 comments Add your comment

1 4 GT

November 27th, 2012
10:38 pm

Wow. Musberger & Herbstreit calling the game Sat! & 1st!


November 27th, 2012
10:42 pm

Finch better be playing on Sat.


November 27th, 2012
10:54 pm

A quarterback coach shouldn’t coach running backs at the same time..
Another reason I feel CPJ needs to add an offensive coordinator..
Vad Lee’s footwork was terrible at times and I witnessed at least 3 throws off his back foot.


November 27th, 2012
11:13 pm

what amazed me was with a crashing outside linebacker, we didn’t run a single counter. and what about short passes? wheel route, etc.


November 28th, 2012
1:07 am

Hard to have good footwork when you are running for your life at the same time.


November 28th, 2012
7:47 am

We need Finch back in a bad way.

Let Lee play the entire game, remember the (68) points he put up on the Tarholes. (The playbook from that game would also help CPJ)

Let some kids play on D, start Gotsis, Harrell, Milton. It can’t get any worse can it?

Give Days the rock and see what he can do on the edge and with a few short passes if Orwin is less than 100%.

If the special(?) teams are going to give the ball to the opponent at mid field, might as well try an onside kick on every kickoff.

That’s it.

molar roller

November 28th, 2012
8:09 am

Needless to say but the season is a total loss. Florida State will beat us by 50 points and God forbid if we play SC in the Sun Bowl. I don’t think we could find a team we could beat in a bowl game. Paul is flummoxed and overwhelmed by coaching at this level. We need to recruit more talent or the downward spiral will continue.

Max Sizemore

November 28th, 2012
8:12 am

@gt40pinhd: the UGA linebacker which blitzed keyed off A-back motion to his side. I don’t believe Tech can run the counter (load on the DE) option with A-back motion. Then again, Paul has an answer for everything, right?

Beat FSU

November 28th, 2012
8:17 am

ToeMeetsLeather: several great points to include special teams. How can we be so bad there? You have got to let Lee start this game, the TW era is over.

Any d-coordinator names being surfaced? I expect a million dollar signing. As a season ticket holder I witnessed 10000 empty seats each week, fill those seats and you can’t say ou can’t afford one. If the defense is not 25-30 spots higher n the rankings next year it will be CPJ’s last season. And I have been 120% supportive even to this day


November 28th, 2012
8:26 am

bought my tickets aftermarket as did alot of fans. GT will have a nice crowd, but it won’t be packed to the rafters. GT’s school is just not big enough, but the fans that will be there are as loyal and enthusiastic as any in the country.


November 28th, 2012
8:33 am

Hopefully GT can say so long to the ACC after this game providing the growing chorus of rumors sending GT to the B10 prove to be true.


November 28th, 2012
8:56 am


Delbert D.

November 28th, 2012
8:56 am

The ACC should negotiate to get out of the neutral site championship site and hold the game on campus of the top team.

Delbert D.

November 28th, 2012
9:01 am

“Louisville will join the Atlantic Coast Conference, becoming the sixth former Big East school to leave for the ACC, sources told ESPN.”

If this is true, I’m done with the ACC. As it is, I watch only games with Georgia Tech involved. I might buy the Big Ten package from Comcast.


November 28th, 2012
9:07 am

anyone think it’s time to demote brian bohannon?

a new offensive coordinator/QB coach seems like a good idea this offseason.

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Bring back Jim Donnan

November 28th, 2012
9:34 am

Brian Van Gorder for Defensive coordinator! He is now out of a job at Auburn and he was successful in Athens and with the Falcons.


November 28th, 2012
9:46 am

Just get a damn DEFENSIVE coach!!!!

UGA = Yawn

November 28th, 2012
9:59 am

Tech ‘expects’ to sell 5000 tickets? How many HAVE THEY SOLD?

Freddie Blassie

November 28th, 2012
9:59 am

Get these players to play for themselves. The offense can put 40 points on Free Shoes U. if they put folks on the ground like they are capable of doing. There has to be some pride on the defensive side of the ball: there has not been much toughness on defense this year. Too many players not going hard until the whistle on both sides of the ball. Any offensive player who watches his running back get slammed by a defensive player and not retaliate should be benched. Find them and punish them when the ball is going to the other side of the field.
No whining.

Delbert D.

November 28th, 2012
10:09 am

From USA Today

“10:06AM EST November 28. 2012 – The Atlantic Coast Conference voted to add the University of Louisville for conference membership on Wednesday morning, replacing former charter member Maryland as its 14th full member.”

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Tech Fan Since 1950

November 28th, 2012
10:18 am

Jay Finch has to be one of the toughest players in Tech history. I’ve watched him all season line up against some of the biggest folks of all time. How he gets the snap off to the quarterback and bulldozes away for the triple option is an amazing thing to watch. I have seen him seemingly play hurt most of the season. He seems small for a center (similar in style to Bill Curry), but I am amazed at how well he plays. I hope he and Orwin will be ok, but this time of the season the football body can just do so much. Fans, get those tickets and head to Charlotte! We’ve got Brent & Kirk & Heather waiting to see the Jackets for the first time this year.

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
10:43 am

Captain Tevin Washington. The very definition of “oxymoron”.

Platooning the QBs is just plain stupid. CPJ: make a choice and just roll with it. You wasted the season on Tevin, might as well let him finish the debacle.

Don’t insult Vad by making him come in to mop up after Tevin.


November 28th, 2012
10:48 am

@GT Joe..have you made a post in the last 2 months that didnt mention Vad


November 28th, 2012
12:16 pm

@ www (and others) there are a lot of things that would look to be good ideas for this offseason.

@ gt40pinhd, CPJ was holding that play for the ACC CG. He gave up at half time and just tried to run clock to keep UGA from putting up 70. How else to explain 29 dive plays.

@ GT Joe, your well intended comments have gone on deaf ears. Besides, it’s obvious that CPJ doesn’t change his offense to take advantage of his best players. He puts in the players that are best at running his offense.

Look, I know we aren’t getting rid of CPJ this year. And I think he is no dummy. That is why I hope he is going to change a lot of things this offseason. But I’m not counting on it.

I also know that the 8 season tickets I have will probably be cut to 4 next year. I just can’t get the boys to pony up anymore. Sad.

GT Fan

November 28th, 2012
12:59 pm

It’s on ABC …. that’s the network Musberger & “Herbie” have been contacted to for past few years.

It’s ABC’s Saturday, 8pm game every week.

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
1:19 pm

Born2Buzz: the fact that he doesn’t fit the offense to the players is PRECISELY the reason he blows as a coach. I’m not saying get rid of the spread option; I’m saying put your best players on the field, and then call plays they can run.

Snoddy: fastest man in the state. Lee: our only d1 quality QB. Days: beast athlete. How are these guys not on the field? Because CPJ is a stubborn fool.

A fool and his job are soon parted…


November 28th, 2012
1:31 pm

GT Joe..another comment and it does say Vad..oh, you changed to are much film have you watched this week..i forgot you know more than all the coaches

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
1:35 pm

GT TN: you clearly are a follower; you believe that anything CPJ does is right.

I think Hitler had a following like that at one time…

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
1:38 pm

Any REAL coach will look at his roster, figure out who the studs are, put them on the field, and figure out what plays they can execute.

THIS coach has it backwards…

If you don’t think that Nick Saban or Mark Richt has their best athletes on the field, you are a fool like CPJ.


November 28th, 2012
1:51 pm

@GT Joe..Im a GT fan..I think CPJ has done somethings that I wouldn’t do..however, I do know that he knows a ton of more football than you and I do..I think it is hilarious that you think you know more about his team than he does..but what can I expect from a guy that think Chizik and Dooley would be great hires for GT

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
2:32 pm

GT TN: CPJ “knows a ton more football than (I) do”? How do you measure that? Is that some sort of football “IQ” test that he took? I’d like to take that test too.

By your logic, no NCAA coach makes ANY mistakes, because they “know their teams more than we do”. And, therefore, no one can every question a coach’s decision. That’s foolishness to the highest degree.

He might see the players everyday and I don’t; but his PRIORITIES are wrong. He prioritizes execution over everything. Perfect execution isn’t need if you have athletes to make up for it. Do you think those 50 IQ UGA players execute perfectly? Hell no.

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
2:39 pm

… so CPJ plays midgets like godhigh, a d2 qb like tevin, and slow laskey, because they can execute. What a joke. I wonder if he’d start a 5′5″ 150 pound high schooler at a-back because he executes better than Orwin Smith. Probably.


November 28th, 2012
3:00 pm

@GT Joe..I just said that I don’t agree with everything that he does..however I do think he knows more football than I stay home and watch the games on tv..every expert out there says he know the offense better than anyone..

By your logic Joe Hamilton should have never played at GT..he was only 5-10 189..JerryMays a great running back at GT shouldnt have played at 5-7 175..Barry Sanders is a HOF back at 5-7..I guess you would have sat Sanders because he is a “midget”..

I think Orwin Smith is are the one that would sit him to get Days on the field..the A Back has to block and you are taking the best a back blocker off the field..

By the way..the Midget bailed your boy Vad out when he floated a pass at UNC and the midget went to ge it..


November 28th, 2012
3:09 pm

By the way the slow Laskey 4.61 is much off Dwyer at 4.59..everyone would love to have Dwyer the way Snoddy that you rant about is only 2 inches taller than the Midget you are complaining about

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
3:48 pm

GT TN: hmmm where do I start:

Joe Ham = 10x the athleticism of Tevin.
Dwyer = 100x the athleticism of Laskey.
Sanders = 1000x the athleticism of Laskey.
Orwin: sit him to get Days on the field? Never said that. Sit bostic, godhigh, or any of the other fast little midgets that shouldn’t be playing d1 football. What happens when a midget plays d1? they get bodyslammed in EMBARRASSING fashion by Baccari Rambo. Lucky godhigh didn’t end up paralyzed.
Laskey and Dwyer speed: Not sure where you get your numbers from. But game speed and 40 yard speed are two different animals. I suggest you look at the Dwyer run to win the ACC title in 2009. Laskey couldn’t make that run in HIGH SCHOOL. Laskey has zero athleticism in comparison.
Comparing Snoddy and Godhigh in athleticism is silliness. Won’t even go there.

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
3:50 pm

GT TN: you don’t agree with EVERYTHING that CPJ does? HOW DARE you! He know more about football than you do! (sarcasm)

GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
3:53 pm

Oh yeah, Snoddy: ran a 4.35 40. IN HIGH SCHOOL.

And can’t sniff the field. But I guess CPJ makes all the right decisions, eh?

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November 28th, 2012
4:14 pm

Laskey, Godhigh , Washington, Greene, Autry, Waller big heart great kids , but wouldn’t start at many Southern Conference schools.Many on the roster are as out of place as the coaching staff .


November 28th, 2012
4:18 pm

GT I know you dont understand our have to have a-back block for the other a-back..everyone has said Godhigh is the best blocker we have..I used all those guys because you said he shouldnt play because he is a midget..everyone I stated is a midget in your said Godhigh shouldnt play because he is a midget..I was just proving you wrong once again that size doesnt matter..I also never compared Joe Hamilton to TW..just used as an example of midgets as you call them..

you also show how big of an idiot you are as I have never compared Snoddy and Godhigh are just trying to makeup stuff for your agruement..all you have to do is google and you can get the speeds..your only arguement for Snoddy is that he has speed and then you turn and say there is a difference in game speed and 40 yard dash doesnt matter how much speed you have if you cant hold onto the football

All I was doing was proving you wrong..never said Laskey was a better athlete than Dwyer and wouldnt say just said that Laskey was slow and I was proving you wrong on that statement..

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GT Joe

November 28th, 2012
4:33 pm

GT TN: proving me wrong? How? Godhigh IS a midget. Tevin IS a d2 QB. Laskey IS slow. 4.61 for a d1 RB is embarrassing. LBs run faster than that. Dwyer ran a 4.48 in HIGH SCHOOL. Idiot. Go read Wiki.

As I’ve said a thousand times, we need our best ATHLETES on the field. Days, Lee, Snoddy, Orwin are our best ATHLETES. Godhigh gets bodyslammed. Days, Snoddy, Orwin and Lee would NEVER get bodyslammed. That play, as tough as godhigh is, was an embarrassment to our entire program. Oh yeah, forgot to mention he got the ball ripped from him like he was 8 years old to end our first drive.

Size doesn’t matter? LOL. Look at UGA and Bama and tell me size doesn’t matter.

As for comparing Godhigh vs. snoddy, YOU compared them, saying Snoddy was taller. I simply followed that Snoddy is a far better ATHLETE.


November 28th, 2012
4:50 pm

Jesus Christ, just shut the hell up and support the team.Stop all this incessant whining about who is and isn’t getting playing time. Nothing you say matters one bit in the mind of anyone who actually matters. The only responsibility we have as fans and alumni is to root for our team and hope for the best. The rest will sort itself out naturally.


November 28th, 2012
4:51 pm

IF Godhigh is a midget then all the other guys are midgets as well..that is all Im saying..Barry Sanders is a midget in your book..

By the way..go to the combine stats and look at have to be an idiot if you believe everything that wiki says..last week wiki profile for Gruden listed him as the head football coach at UT..I could go in there and change anyones 40 yard dash..I was wrong about Dwyers 40 time..he ran a 4.68 at the combine..I think I trust that more than wiki..


November 28th, 2012
4:57 pm the way a 4.61 isnt too slow for a b-back that is the same as a full back..give me a full back name that runs faster than 4.6


November 28th, 2012
5:49 pm

It is funny how GT Joe disappears when someone proves him wrong..I guess he is onto his next blog to give his support for Vad


November 28th, 2012
6:37 pm

if Orwin Smith doesn’t play you can’t worry about it? Are you kidding me? After witnessing what happened without him vs uga? TAPE IT UP AND PLAY, ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY?

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