Updated Tech bowl scenarios II
If Georgia Tech is unable to pull the upset in the ACC Championship game against Florida State, it appears more than ever that the Yellow Jackets would head for the Sun Bowl. With a win, of course, Tech would go to the Orange Bowl.
In the event of a loss, Saturday’s results make it more likely that the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas, would be Tech’s destination. Clemson’s loss to South Carolina Saturday dropped the Tigers to No. 14 in the BCS standings, so they’re still eligible for an at-large bid, but with two losses and their Orange Bowl showing last year, it doesn’t seem likely.
That would make Clemson the automatic pick for the Chick-fil-A Bowl. The Russell Athletic Bowl, which has second pick in the ACC bowl selection order after the BCS bowls, can choose between Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech and N.C. State.
N.C. State just fired coach Tom O’Brien, so I’m guessing this isn’t a fan base ready to celebrate anything. If the Yellow Jackets are available, it will mean they’ll have lost two games in a row, one by a wide margin, and have fallen to 6-7. Tech will have a better league record than the Hokies (5-3 to 4-4), but Virginia Tech will have won its last two games, have a non-losing record (6-6) and a win over the Jackets. Further, Virginia Tech has never been to the Russell Athletics Bowl.
As I noted in a post last week, having a winning record (or at least not a losing record) is not a small matter of importance to the Russell Athletic Bowl folks. The bowl, formerly the Champs Sports Bowl, is used to getting eight- or nine-win teams.
Prior to the Georgia game, Citrus Bowl Sports CEO Steve Hogan said that “I think the Georgia game is a big game just because of that, because of the overall winning record.”
One or the other will go to Orlando, I think. That would leave Tech at the Sun Bowl, its destination last year. The Sun Bowl is required to take the ACC title-game runner-up if it’s available. Two ESPN projections pair Tech up with Southern California.
I’ve read that Tech would not be bowl eligible at 6-7 and that the waiver that UCLA received last year will not be granted. BCS guru Jerry Palm tweeted it, for instance. I don’t believe that to be the case, largely because, as I’ve written, Tech, ACC and bowl officials all expect the waiver to be granted. The other reason is that the NCAA process instituted that addresses 6-7 teams that lose their championship game was put in place for a situation in which there weren’t enough bowl-eligible teams.
As I understand it, because there are enough bowl-eligible teams, there isn’t a need to use the protocol that could potentially keep Tech out. It’s conceivable that the waiver could be denied, but on a teleconference Sunday night, coach Paul Johnson said that acting athletic director Paul Griffin told him that Tech will go to a bowl.
One other thing: Should Tech pull the upset, it’s likely Orange Bowl opponent will be the Big East champion, either Rutgers or Louisville. The two teams play Thursday night to decide the title. There’s also a possibility that Kent State, which hasn’t played in a bowl game since 1972 but is playing against Northern Illinois for the MAC title, could make it the Orange Bowl.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech bowl
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headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
“Nobody has ever stopped my offense”
- Paul Johnson
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
12:50 pm
” Hope you guys enjoy the fish I am preparing this weekend ”
- Paul Johnson
JM
November 26th, 2012
12:59 pm
Looking forward to the Jackets playing football. Always cheering for the white and gold.
Other programs have no idea what it takes to succeed at Ga Tech. Few fans of the other programs would be willing to stay true to their school. I’ve had people tell me they would cheer for someone else if the positions were switched. Ga Tech fans are a long suffering bunch.
north fulton truthsayer
November 26th, 2012
1:01 pm
Actually Ken, because there are enough eligible teams to fill all of the bowl slots, Tech will not get a bid if they lose to FSU.
Can they opt out of the Championship Game?
Booze Hound
November 26th, 2012
1:03 pm
Been a Georgia Tech fan for a long time, but after this weekend’s beatdown I hope that the NCAA does not grant the Jackets a bowl waiver. They simply do not deserve to go anywhere. Neither does rancid Virginia Tech.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
” Anybody seen the tarter sauce ”
- Paul Johnson
Tiger
November 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
Last year there were enough bowl eligible teams. See: western Kentucky hilltoppers. So thy point is not true
ROLLTIDE
November 26th, 2012
1:09 pm
Don’t worry teckies, the dawgs have a beat down coming Saturday…Then your gonna hear some cryin
north fulton truthsayer
November 26th, 2012
1:14 pm
Last year UCLA got in by petition – this year they made the rules to eliminate petitions (and controversy)
George Stein
November 26th, 2012
1:16 pm
What’s “tarter” sauce?
Paul Johnson
November 26th, 2012
1:21 pm
Dear readers,
My offense does not work against 3-4 D’s. l.e. Brigham Young, and Georgie.
Sincerely,
Paul Johnson
Head “Offensive Genius”
GT Fan Man
November 26th, 2012
1:23 pm
RTR!!!!!!!
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
1:24 pm
Been a Georgia Tech fan for a long time, but after this weekend’s beatdown I hope that the NCAA does not grant the Jackets a bowl waiver.
You think it would be much better for our kids to take away the extra practice time and the bowl game experience? We stunk it up against UGA again. Get over it. Time to move on.
GIVE ME A BREAK
November 26th, 2012
1:32 pm
Like CPJ has said before, a bowl game gives the team extra practices and another game. Look at it as prep for next year. CPJ better come up with a big name DC. There’s no way that GT can play as bad against FSU as they did against UGA. They win this one.
Max Sizemore
November 26th, 2012
1:40 pm
I think Tech has a real chance against FSU. Tech’s game against Georgia was over early, but FSU — playing a game it really thought it would win (as opposed to Tech) — had a physical four quarters against Florida and was beaten up pretty well. Now the ‘Noles are playing a team they really expect to beat, so a big letdown could be in store.
Georgia Tech University
November 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
Coach will coach them up! I’m fired up and bowl bound! We are going to CRUSH fsu. NO WAY WE LOSE TWO IN-A-ROW. Just no way. C’mon guys, where’s your school PRIDE and SPIRIT? I’m sure after this weekend, coach gets an extension through 2020 at least. No one can stop us right?
Buzzed
November 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
So, Steinie: that’s what it’s come down to for you? Monitoring spelling errors or typos from haste?
Booze Hound
November 26th, 2012
1:54 pm
Now the Jackets are going to beat FSU?! Good grief. Florida State will beat Georgia Tech like they stole something.
Fire Paul Johnson!
The New ACC
November 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
Posters here saying negative things about GA Tech are “posers”.
Ugag will lose to Alabama in a big way – count on it. The Tide is out to prove a point after having one loss this season. The puppies will be cryin’ out loud.
GA Tech does need to get a defense. CPJ offense does work and I am a big believer. But, no offense really works without a defense – and we have no defense at all.
I hope that the GA Tech recruiters are out in a big way trying to get the biggest, strongest, meanest defensive high school players and Junior College players possible!
DawginSewer
November 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
Bamers bastes unssx by es 50.
GThoschton
November 26th, 2012
2:04 pm
Folks get over it we got out butts whipped, DC hire is huge for the program, and CPJ tenure, and I believe an entire new defensive staff!!!! we are going to Championship game going to have a good time and cheer for the Jackets, and if we go to the Sun Bowl great! or the Orange even better!!!
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
2:09 pm
CPJ offense does work
It sure looked great Saturday.
juvenal
November 26th, 2012
2:16 pm
Ken, being one of only 3 schools that use Russell make a difference?
you can't fix stupid or bulldogs
November 26th, 2012
2:19 pm
the fans are voting for a change by not going to games and all the talk on radio. Need a new Ad in a hurry to get a new coach.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
2:21 pm
It sure looked great Saturday.
We didn’t really have any trouble moving the ball against UGA.
Tech Fan Since 1950
November 26th, 2012
2:25 pm
Nothing like a journalist who speaks his mind in the first sentence of his story rather than the facts of what will happen if Tech wins. El Paso is a fine place I understand Ken, but I hope your editors will still send you to Ft. Lauderdale for Tech’s sake. That would mean Ken, that Tech is in the Orange Bowl. Nothing like playing the game before it is over.
Jacket Attack
November 26th, 2012
2:26 pm
I was on hand in athens saturday and I must say this they had a ton of recruits there, On the billboard they even had a little commerical that said commit to Georgia! So sitting in the stands I heard they were really happy to have gotten a commitment. They told this prospect they were going to go ahead and give him his entrance exam and asked him in front of the entire stadium what is 4+4 when the recruit said 8 the stadium erupted into the chant give him one more try! So thats how much attention we really pay to you all. Second its going to be funny when we go to a BCS Bowl and you go elsewhere! Oh by the way talk up the junk right now because those big players you have and yes ill admit there good are going to be playing on Sunday next year!
juvenal
November 26th, 2012
2:26 pm
13 thru 16=4X $2.2M=no new coach soon……fans that vote by not going=not really fans………….hl, you make loud noises at funerals, too?
Proud Jacket Alumnus
November 26th, 2012
2:34 pm
GT doesn’t deserve to go to a bowl this year. The Florida State game should be it. We’re lucky enough just to have that.
reality check
November 26th, 2012
2:36 pm
If Kent State beats Northern Illinois Friday and Tech wins Saturday the Orange Bowl matchup likely will be Tech vs Kent State.
That is not a joke.
It is really funny though
Ken Sugiura
November 26th, 2012
2:42 pm
Tech Fan Since 1950 – that’s my mistake. I left out a very important clause. it wasn’t my intent. will correct.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
2:46 pm
We didn’t really have any trouble moving the ball against UGA.
LOL. I know.
Offense looked great. Lots of rushing yards and first downs.
Especially in the second half. O really moved the ball then.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
2:48 pm
They told this prospect they were going to go ahead and give him his entrance exam and asked him in front of the entire stadium what is 4+4 when the recruit said 8 the stadium erupted into the chant give him one more try!
Jealousy. The hubris of the defeated.
Mike S.
November 26th, 2012
2:49 pm
@GTBob – Yes, Tech moved the ball on UGA. So did GA Southern. Didnt help them much either. Both teams scored a grand total of 10 pts combined before UGA put in the backups. Yardage without points is a serious issue. it says you cant make the big plays when you need them to put points on the board. Its as bad as going 3 and out.
juvenal
November 26th, 2012
2:51 pm
and Russell’s CEO went to school where?
Proud Jacket Alumnus
November 26th, 2012
2:51 pm
Our efforts should be spent instead on finding a new head football coach — something I have said since 2010 when it was clear that Paul Johnson’s triple option offensive scheme had taken us as far as it could meanwhile Paul Johnson insisted on continuing to run it over and over again. Also, he doesn’t get it about the rivalry with UGA.
dawgfan
November 26th, 2012
2:51 pm
I don’t know how Tech fans will be able to make it to the ACCCG since they apparently will all be glued to their television sets hoping Bama can do their dirty work for them and beat UGA. I guess that will explain all the empty seats.
Georgia Tech=JOKE
Ken Sugiura
November 26th, 2012
2:51 pm
Juvenal – Steve Hogan said no. I’m sure Russell would like to have Tech in, but I don’t know if they’d also want people talking about their bowl being known as “the bowl with a losing team in it.”
Tech Fan Since 1950
November 26th, 2012
2:52 pm
Ken, thanks for the update and correction. You have done a great job covering Tech this year and some of us, including myself, might be a little sensitive these days. I do hope your editors get to send you to sunny south Florida for the holidays. Best wishes!
juvenal
November 26th, 2012
2:57 pm
then let’s get some decent threads, Ken………that bowl has changed names more often than Elizabeth Taylor………
Bill Lewis
November 26th, 2012
3:03 pm
GTBob, Nothing like a moral victory eh?
We didn’t really have any trouble moving the ball against UGA.
Dadgum.....
November 26th, 2012
3:09 pm
Ken, I too thought GT would go to the Sun Bowl at 6-7. Doesn’t appear to be the case any longer. NCAA has said no waivers as they have enough teams. See CBS Sports. If we don’t beat FSU we aren’t going or so they claim.
Stinger 1
November 26th, 2012
3:10 pm
headley lamar: Your comments have added a lot of nothing to this blog.
collegeballfan
November 26th, 2012
3:12 pm
Georgia Tech gave up way to many points this season;
42, 49, 47, 41, 50 and 42 in 6 games.
Lousy players, lousy coaches or both. And if it is lousy players that
is a reflection of lousy recruiting by the coaches.
That said Tech has a record since 1960 of 332 – 270 – 10. That is 26 games over .500 for the 52 year period. So this year’s 6 – 6 record is about as usual.
Dacusville Bill
November 26th, 2012
3:15 pm
I have been a Tech Fan since 1950 and this is the most dysfunctional defense I have ever seen. I have seen one or more games very year except 1965, when Uncle Sugar sent me to Vietnam—If a horse was this sick, you’d shoot the creature to put it out of its misery–Since we can’t shoot Pitiful Paul, Fire him and hire a real HEAD Coach—
Dacusville Bill
November 26th, 2012
3:15 pm
I have been a Tech Fan since 1950 and this is the most dysfunctional defense I have ever seen. I have seen one or more games very year except 1965, when Uncle Sugar sent me to Vietnam—If a horse was this sick, you’d shoot the creature to put it out of its misery–Since we can’t shoot Pitiful Paul, Fire him and hire a real HEAD Coach—
juvenal
November 26th, 2012
3:22 pm
so Tech, one of the few schools that use Russell because their CEO is a grad, will not get a bid to the Russell bowl-the irony of this is truly delicious as the really atrocious unis this year added insult to injury-adidas or nike, please! the game saturday is our bowl, in any event-may be a long time before we are in another acccg-carry an umbrella to protect you from poop from the airborne swine, that’s how likely we were to be in this game…..should be a tv in the club level, that’s where i’m sitting…..
juvenal
November 26th, 2012
3:23 pm
Bill, you got $8.8mil for the last 4 years of cpj’s contract?
Georgia Tech Runs this state
November 26th, 2012
3:28 pm
We are going to run all over FSU like we ran all over Uga. Any questions? I didn’t think so. If you don’t support CPJ 100%, get a new team.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
3:31 pm
GTBob, Nothing like a moral victory eh?
We didn’t really have any trouble moving the ball against UGA.
I didn’t claim it was a victory of any kind but its pretty much a fact that we were moving the ball on UGA without much of a problem.
Goldenrod
November 26th, 2012
3:34 pm
I cannot wait to go to Charlotte as we beat DOWN the Creminoles, shock the world and head to the Orange Bowl. We had bigger fish to fry than UGag.
We WILL Run This Conference!
79
November 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
College Ball Fan wrote;
“…Tech has a record since 1960 of 332 – 270 – 10. That is 26 games over .500 for the 52 year period. ….”
Gee Whiz, math is hard!
GT Fan
November 26th, 2012
3:39 pm
Don’t criticize Headly, he’s a solid chap. Besides, he’s got a bigger problem to worry about over in Rock Ridge with their new Sheriff …. I thinks he’s near.
Georgia Tech Runs this state
November 26th, 2012
3:40 pm
UGA has some WEAK defense. Cant wait to thrash FSU #1 run defense too.
Gus in Marietta
November 26th, 2012
3:48 pm
Anyone not think the program is in a downward spiral? This year’s team looks like a rebuilding year (like a coach’s first year team), not a coach’s 5th year team. The talent has been getting steadily worse, as have the results. The writer for the AJC nailed it late last week when he said that UGA had the advantage at EVERY position (all 22 plus special teams). How are you supposed to win if the other team is better at every spot? Even when the Dawgs had Herschel and won the National Championship in ‘80, some of our players were better than some of theirs.
This is as low as at any point since I started watching Tech football in Sept of 1976. This team is no better than Curry’s bad teams or Lewis’ team. Oh the results are a little better, in large measure due to the “stylized” offense (to use Bradley’s descriptor). That “equalizer” is the only thing keeping this team from utter humiliation every blessed week. Not only is the talent lacking, I don’t see much in the way of great coaching. CPJ is doing what he can, but where are the stud assistant coaches? When we won the National Championship in 1990, we had a great head coach in Bobby Ross, a great offensive coach in Ralph Friedgen, and a great defensive coach in George O’Leary. The drop off from then to now is breathtaking on every level.
The truly sad thing is that I can’t see any way on God’s green earth that we will ever get back to such lofty heights…
Jacketnation Deflation
November 26th, 2012
3:50 pm
We neither need to nor deserve to go to a bowl game. Tech is not the upset specialist. Well except for specializing in giving you and upset stomach. They haven’t beaten a ranked team all year and it ain’t going to happen in Charlotte. Florida State has a much stronger offense and a defensive that is very capable of causing Tech a lot of problems. We don’t have a defense. We gave up 150 yards in the air and two touch downs to a true freshman, scout team linebacker who had to do emergency duty as a fifth string Quarterback. Our defense is as porous as the Arizona border with Mexico. No bowl game for this team. End the season and get on the road to recruiting. With all the coach firing, Johnson should go after the top recruits from each team and drop a few of our nobody else in Div -1 wants them recruits.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
3:52 pm
How are you supposed to win if the other team is better at every spot?
Almost every year we play UGA for the rest of eternity, they are going to be much better at pretty much every position. You just have to hope that the team puts together a quality game and pulls off an upset every once in a while.
wrecked again
November 26th, 2012
3:53 pm
Goldenrod you either have a fabulous since of humor or you’re a foolish dumbass. You did pick both Georgia Southern and Tech to beat Georgia.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
3:53 pm
End the season and get on the road to recruiting.
You think it will help recruiting if we refuse to play in the ACC championship and turn down a bowl invite? You think that would be really impressive to all of the recruits out there?
Big Jim
November 26th, 2012
3:57 pm
Idiots!!!! Some of you STILL do not get it. I will try again:
4-5 star (Offense) kids want to/think they will, play on Sunday, where they pass, some 40+ times.
No triple flopsion is run on Sunday (reason – it does NOT NOT NOT work in big boy football)
4-5 star kids want to play on a team with other 4-5 star kids.
1-2 Star recruits on offense = 1-2 star kids on defense. Its simple.
That Sh*t offense effects EVERY position on the field, butts in seats, donations, bowl bids, and WINS!
To all you morons who say “well, we moved the ball well against Ugag, blablablah”…OMG….until they give points for “yards & TOP”, that is just an idiotic statement.
GT Willie
November 26th, 2012
4:01 pm
What, get rid of our coach? Have you lost your minds? Give the guy a break. He’s doing his best. I’d like to see someone else take lesser talent like this, and put a better product on the field. So we have one down year, big deal. We are still playing in the ACCC and going to a bowl. I’ll take that any day than UGA being ranked #3 and losing to #2 Bama only to drop to the Chick fil A bowl.
Technically Correct
November 26th, 2012
4:05 pm
Who gives a crap anymore?
old dog
November 26th, 2012
4:05 pm
I know we all go back and forth on these blogs….some of it good-natured and some of it not. However, my Tech buddies, in all sincerety it is time to stop being delusional and make a change if you plan on being a D-1 team. I know that UGA has had down years, too, and will again. However, the low ya’ll are headed for is unchartered territory.
1. The worst defense in the history of organized athletics. You can’t coach these guys up to D-1 standards….the are not talented enough.
2. The system you run has as much to do with the lack of good recruiting as academics, etc. Top notch players, ESPECIALLY a good QB are not coming to this system.
3. D players are not too keen on coming, either, as they know they will not look very good at Tech. This just is not the system to bring them in.
Come on, guys, and realize what you have. CPJ won a few with someone elses recruits and a system many had not seen. Good heavens, if someone brough back the wing-T it would catch folks off-guard for a few minutes. However, once it is figured out, good teams can stop it. Don’t carry on about all the yards you had; all you gotta do is play bend but don’t break and then when real ball has to be played (red zone) it is exposed. You are quickly losing your fan base……at some home games there were not enough folks there to fill up a phone booth. I know all about the academics, classes, excuses, etc. However, the truth is that ya’ll can do better. Quit trying to fool others (and worse, yourselves) and get Tech football AT LEAST respectable. The rivalry is now officially gone. When your arch-enemy at one time becomes a powder-puff game in which you merely worry about not getting someone hurt before the real game comes, that is inexcusable. And that, my friends is where you are. C’mon on, man!
Al Bundy
November 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
I just hope we still have our coach when it’s time to lose our bowl game. With all the head coaching jobs open all over the country I’m sure some school if not all will want Johnson. He’s probably already been contacted by Tennessee, Auburn and Arkansas! They’ll probably getting in a bidding war over him. He’s just like Wiley Coyote, he’s a super genious!
Admiral Obvious
November 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
Please Give Paul Johnson a lifetime contract! He’s a football genius. Who needs 4 or 5 star recruits when you can coach them up like Paul Johnson!
crackbaby
November 26th, 2012
4:08 pm
If the Jackets win on Saturday, they deserve to go to the Orange Bowl. Lose to the Noles and they should stay home (but they won’t and that is b/c of the bowl system, no fault of GT).
The state of football in the ACC is an absolute grease fire. Hard to believe that Tech’s record in 2012 is worse than 2011.
Shane Hall
November 26th, 2012
4:09 pm
I’ve been a Tech fan for over 50 years. I loved to warch Bobby Dodd coached teams play, especially Billy Lothridge and Billy Martin. But Tech does not deserve to go to a bowl game and certainly does not need to play for the ACC championship. It will be just another embarrassing defeat. Paul Johnson’s triple offense will never work in big time football. I think Johnson needs to go to a Division II school.
Montylick&ass
November 26th, 2012
4:11 pm
GTBob: How many points do you get for “moving the ball”? Where does that show up in the Win-Loss column? We managed 3 points against the first team D, and that was mostly because our D kept getting us the ball back quickly…some genius discovered that our D could get off the field on third down by letting UGA score, since we couldn’t otherwise!
I'm Glad, I'm Glad, I'm Glad
November 26th, 2012
4:13 pm
hey dwagfan…better believe I’ll be glued to the tv, bub…if they hang 50 points on you guys, I’ll be cheering so loud you’ll hear me from Charleston…they don’t or they lose, then ND’ll kick yer butts, AND I’ll get to see USCe do it to you again next year….I’m good.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
4:15 pm
I didn’t claim it was a victory of any kind but its pretty much a fact that we were moving the ball on UGA without much of a problem.
Sure did.
I mean all those rushing yards and first downs.
They really added up.
Especially the second half when Georgia was tired.
So many big plays too.
I'm Glad, I'm Glad, I'm Glad
November 26th, 2012
4:15 pm
@ Al B…and so are you, ‘genious’.
Sanity Check
November 26th, 2012
4:16 pm
Ok, this is how you can tell if you have a good headcoach and a good football program; ARE YOU AFRAID ANOTHER SCHOOL IS GOING TO HIRE HIM AWAY FROM YOU?
Montylick&ass
November 26th, 2012
4:17 pm
Maybe the ACC should downsize, then we and the NC/Va schools would have a chance to win the conference. I would think FSU and Clemson would fit better in the SEC. They have SEC-sized stadiums and fan-bases, SEC-worthy pedigrees, and already have to play SEC rivals every year. FSU’s baseball team would fit right in with the baseball powerhouses of the SEC. Yeah, conference championships in football would be REALLY hard to win, but the new playoff format would mean the 2nd or 3rd SEC team would still have a shot at the national championship each year. All the extra bowl money, TV contract money, and ticket/merchandise sales could pay off the $50 million buyout pretty quick. That would leave the ACC room to pick up a few more second-tier football schools.
SansWorld
November 26th, 2012
4:18 pm
Of course we should go to a bowl game if offered.
I case you are not aware, going to a bowl game has nothing to do with pleasing whiny “fans”.
Primarily, the bowl game should be a reward to the players who at 3 – 5 were written off by those same whiney fans. Despite the failings this year, this team sucked up and ran of three in a row that their loyal supporters were convinced they would lose. A bowl game is the one change for a college athlete to be feted and given a ‘gift’ as a reward for their participation. For a Tech “fan” to propose that these players be denied this opportunity is beyond the Pale.
And of course no real fan would turn down the extra practice time unless they really want the program to fail the next year, which I suspect many do want to happen.
old dog
November 26th, 2012
4:19 pm
GTBob,
There are many on this blog who are true fans, and I admire them. You, however, are delusional at the very least. You may want to learn something about the game of football. Until you do, let grownups (yeah, even us Dawgs) talk reality and you go find a midget league team to pull for. It is painfully obvious that whether you are a fan or not the improvement of a once-proud program is of no importance to you.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:19 pm
GTBob: How many points do you get for “moving the ball”?
None. We certainly had some turnover and play calling issues. UGA’s defense wasn’t really impressive though. Go back and watch the BYU game, then watch the UGA game. Tell me which team you think really shut us down.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:21 pm
It is painfully obvious that whether you are a fan or not the improvement of a once-proud program is of no importance to you.
I am assuming you are talking about GT so give me a good run down on how you think GT can become as good as they were in the 50’s. I am all for improvement, so I welcome any insight that you may have that Tech fans have not thought of in the past 50 years.
Montylick&ass
November 26th, 2012
4:22 pm
SansWorld: Yeah, big turnaound, going from 3-5 to 6-8. I guess winning half our games is about the best we can expect from a CPJ team…
Of course, the ACC was SO strong this year, and we had to play FSU…oh, wait…
Georgia Tech Runs this state
November 26th, 2012
4:22 pm
Number are numbers people. We had more yards than UGA. I don’t understand the deal with this?
Dadgum.....
November 26th, 2012
4:27 pm
Apparently we are not going to a bowl game unless we beat FSU according to CBS Sports. No waivers coming as enough teams have qualified nationally.
Montylick&ass
November 26th, 2012
4:27 pm
GTBob….which game were you watching? 3 FREAKING POINTS! If you were not impressed by Rambo, Ogletree, Jarvis Jones, and the big noseguard (Jenkins?), then you don’t know defensive talent when you see it. Or, maybe you are right and all those NFL draft experts are wrong…
you seem to think you know something about CPJ that isnt obvious to the rest of the world.
The Answer Man
November 26th, 2012
4:27 pm
@GTBob: “We didn’t really have any trouble moving the ball against UGA.”
But Bobby, moving the ball really doesn”t matter if you never get it across the goal line. But hey, I think it is an AWESOME offense. PUH LEASE keep it!
SansWorld
November 26th, 2012
4:28 pm
Tech putting up 450+ yards in some ways indicates they had decent preparation for the game. Scoring only 10 points out of 450 yards is an indication of another problem beyond the game plan.
Technically Correct
November 26th, 2012
4:28 pm
Old Dog is very wise…
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
4:28 pm
You think it will help recruiting if we refuse to play in the ACC championship and turn down a bowl invite?
Probably.
Playing in the game and having them watch you sure isn’t going to help.
Call it addition by subtraction.
Dadgum.....
November 26th, 2012
4:32 pm
Folks it’s all about coaching and recruiting. Kelly took over ND the same time CPJ did Tech. ND was in worse woes than Tech believe it or not. They were not getting the talent. Now look at them. Same if not stricter academics. Johnson will be a lame duck coach next year when the new AD arrives. He will not be extended.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:33 pm
ND was in worse woes than Tech believe it or not.
Its not even remotely possible for Notre Dame to be in a worse position then GT at any time.
Dadgum.....
November 26th, 2012
4:35 pm
GT can’t refuse a bowl invite or ACC champ game as they are contractually bound when no other teams are available. Word.
old dog
November 26th, 2012
4:35 pm
of course you had more yards……we scored so quickly we did not even need that many posessions. The score of that game could have been much worse, and you all know it. @GTBob,,
Here is the insight you were asking for: WHAT YA’LL ARE DOING AIN’T WORKIN’!
Period! Push, pull, or whatever but do something! Try another coach who can recruit! Even if you cannot recruit with some of the upper-crust teams, the lack of talent on ya’lls d is mystifying. You are not bringing in D-1 recruits. Keep carrying on about how many yards ya’ll had…….the score could have been 85 to 3 if we wanted it to be, and the sad part is, you know it! We gave you a little TD on the scrubs, and that is fine…..no need to rub your nose in it! But if you keep sailing on this ship, you will learn the hard truth. It is much more than just a down year that we all have occasionally. It is abominable. I reckon’ there is a silver-lining though. with the present system, it will be difficult to get up for a game with you that you just might slip up on us once in a blue moon.
Get with the program, friends! You owe it to us, yourselves, and the State of Georgia to not be satisfyed with the current situation!
Montylick&ass
November 26th, 2012
4:36 pm
We had eleven possessions and got ten points, and seven of those were against the scrubs. I was at the game, and I certainly failed to see this wonderful offensive performance GTBob and SansWorld imagined. Once Godhigh had the ball ripped out, we never really looked like we were going to score any touchdowns.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:36 pm
Playing in the game and having them watch you sure isn’t going to help.
So should GT give up football completely in an effort to improve recruiting?
Dadgum.....
November 26th, 2012
4:41 pm
GT Bob…..as they say you can look it up. The ND program about 5 years ago was terrible which is why they brought Kelly in. The shine was off the dome and the solid 4-5 star recruits were not going to ND. It’s always about the coach. Time for GT to realize that. Johnson has had plenty of time. Lost every bowl game. 1-5 against Georgia and worse against ranked teams. Wish everyone would quit apologizing for Johnson.
Tom
November 26th, 2012
4:42 pm
Tenuta is available with O’Brien being fired at NC State.PJ needs to swallow his pride and hire the guy and step aside.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:42 pm
Push, pull, or whatever but do something! Try another coach who can recruit!
So your magic solution is to just hire a coach that can recruit? Gee, I wonder why we haven’t tried that in the past 50 years. For some reason UGA fans are convinced that if we fire CPJ that we will have top ten recruiting classes every year and begin competing with UGA on a regular basis. It isn’t going to happen like that. There is a reason that CPJ was hired in the first place that people tend to ignore.
We Own You
November 26th, 2012
4:43 pm
What a dork is GTBob…..so you moved the ball. Big deal, Clyde. They don’t give you points for moving the ball. You are pitiful. Tell us again how all your football players are scholars and those from other schools just don’t have what it takes to make it at the North Avenue Trade School. You are an epic loser.
Georgia Tech Runs this state
November 26th, 2012
4:47 pm
old dog, I think its time for your walk. We had the superior ground game Saturday. Just look at our stats. get over it.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
4:50 pm
So should GT give up football completely in an effort to improve recruiting?
No.
But the fewer games Tech plays on TV this year I think the better.
GT Willie
November 26th, 2012
4:51 pm
So we lost on the scoreboard. Big deal. We are winners and will always be. Next year its on. Can’t wait.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
4:51 pm
I would take the whole Tech academics argument a lot more serious if the graduation rates in Football and Basketball weren’t some of the worst in the country.
Obviously it isn’t that important Tech athletes graduate.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:52 pm
The shine was off the dome and the solid 4-5 star recruits were not going to ND.
From 2006 to 2008 ND had six 5 star recruits, 38 4 star recruits and recruiting rankings of 8, 8, and 2. GT has never had a five star recruit or a top ten recruiting ranking. If that was ND at their worst then I would certainly take it at GT.
old dog
November 26th, 2012
4:53 pm
@GTBob,
You are just runnin’ ’round the mulberry bush. You know that the program is in a terrible state, and you seem to be satisfyed with that. You may or may not compete with us again…..you will never know if you don’t get out of this “blunder-land” you presently have. Seems strange…..a Dawg wanting better for the enemy. Kinda like Brian’s song…..he wanted Sayers at his best so the competition would be fair. Ya’ll are not at your best. It may never be like it once was, but it can surely be better than it is now!
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:53 pm
But the fewer games Tech plays on TV this year I think the better.
So eliminating all televised games would be the best idea for us recruiting wise?
Montylick&ass
November 26th, 2012
4:53 pm
God no, GTBob. The UGA fans are hopin like he!! we keep CPJ! It is we who have not accepted mediocrity for Tech who want a chnage. What do you see getting better? If all the excuses are valid, and we can no longer comperte at this level, why do we need to pay over $2 million for a coach? We can move to a mid-major football conference (as if the ACC isn’t headed that way already) and get somebody to coach us for a lot less money.
old dog
November 26th, 2012
4:54 pm
no, GTBob…………a new system would be the best idea for you recruiting wise!!!!!!!!!
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:56 pm
Seems strange…..a Dawg wanting better for the enemy.
Oh please, you couldn’t care less if we got better or not and nothing you say is in the best interest of the program. You hate CPJ just like every other UGA fan and want him eliminated from existence. Good for you. It doesn’t mean firing him is our best option right now.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
4:58 pm
no, GTBob…………a new system would be the best idea for you recruiting wise!!!!!!!!!
We already tried that. It didnt work. One day you guys will learn that its a bigger problem with GT in general then it is just a CPJ problem.
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
4:58 pm
headley: don’t confuse higher graduation rates with quality academics.
The only thing graduation rates tell me is how TOUGH a school is to graduate from.
Booze Hound
November 26th, 2012
4:59 pm
Time’s up for Johnson. He needs to go. The only way Georgia Tech wins this weekend is if Florida State suspends their first and second teams…then it might be close. Otherwise, this will look a lot like the beating the ‘Noles used to put on the Jackets back during Bowden’s heyday.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:01 pm
From 2006 to 2008 ND had six 5 star recruits, 38 4 star recruits and recruiting rankings of 8, 8, and 2.
Notre Dame recruiting rankings are notoriously unreliable, Kind of like the polls that showed Mitt Romney winning.
Player commits to ND almost always gets bumped up a star.
Yes they do that at other schools to but not to the same extent.
Show me where ND has put a ton of players in the NFL like UGA, Bama, Florida etc and then ill buy it.
old dog
November 26th, 2012
5:04 pm
You are wrong about one thing, GTBob; yes some of us ‘Dawgs who are football fans DO want to see ya’ll get better….it is good for the rivalry for it TO BE a rivalry! I’d rather ya’ll get some of the recruits that (if we do not get them) Auburn, ‘Bama, Ole Miss, or some other SEC team may get. And ya’ll could pull them if you ran a better style of play.
SansWorld
November 26th, 2012
5:04 pm
GTBob,
I suggest you let everyone get the venom out of there systems before trying to carry on a conversation supporting CPJ. There are plenty that still support him, but they are in hiding.
I suspect by Thursday the CPJ haters will have toned down some, the Dawg fans (both the overt fans, and those posing as Tech fans) will strut over to a story about the SECCG try their best to run their case at the Bamer fans.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
The only thing graduation rates tell me is how TOUGH a school is to graduate from.
But how did they get in to Tech in the first place ?
I realize its a Chicken and Egg argument but you cant have it both ways.
Ill say again its obvious Tech doesn’t care about its athletes graduation.
What does that say ?
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
headley: bama 30 nfl players. ND, 30 nfl players.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/college
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
So eliminating all televised games would be the best idea for us recruiting wise?
This year yes.
David S.
November 26th, 2012
5:06 pm
FIRE THE LOSER COACH CPJ…. THATS ALL I WANT FOR CHRISMAS…. DO IT NOW, DO IT AFTER THE ALL CUPCAKE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME… JUST DO IT….
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:06 pm
headley: the grad rate at tech for EVERY STUDENT is lower than at other schools (not just for athletes).
Comparing grad rates between uga and tech is apples and oranges. For athletes or non-athletes.
old dog
November 26th, 2012
5:07 pm
Booze Hound, like it or not, is right. If Tech were to slip up on Florida State, it would be the nastiest reflection possible on the state of ACC football. At least Florida State showed up for the game with THEIR arch-rival!
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:07 pm
headley: bama 30 nfl players. ND, 30 nfl players.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/college
Thats awesome.
Of course Jimmy Clausen counts for ND for what its worth.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:08 pm
headley: the grad rate at tech for EVERY STUDENT is lower than at other schools (not just for athletes).
Yes but for Tech the drop for Athletes is much higher.
There is no denying it.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:12 pm
Football Graduation Rates: ACC
Duke 93%
Boston College 93%
Miami 88%
Wake Forest 81%
Virginia Tech 79%
North Carolina 75%
Virginia 68%
Clemson 62%
Maryland 59%
Florida St. 56%
North Carolina St. 56%
Georgia Tech 55%
http://stanford.scout.com/2/1183346.html
Funny how Duke doesn’t have that same problem isn’t it.
And dont give me the Engineering crap.
Very very very few of those football players are in any other major but ” Management ”
I’m sorry you’ve lost this one.
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:12 pm
no one is denying the drop, headley. It’s hard to graduate from Tech, period. Even harder for the average football player with a 1028 SAT score (highest among public FBS schools). The average tech student is at ~1360+ SAT, so obviously a 1028 football player will have more trouble graduating.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
5:12 pm
If Tech were to slip up on Florida State, it would be the nastiest reflection possible on the state of ACC football.
Yeah, because the ACC gets so much respect right now, we wouldn’t want to ruin it.
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:16 pm
Tech grad rate after 4 years (class of 2010): 34%
Tech grad rate after 5 years (class of 2010): 72%
This is for ALL Students. Makes the 56% grad rate for football players seem not so bad, eh?
http://factbook.gatech.edu/content/graduationretention-rates
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
5:16 pm
According to Headley, Tech is an easy school with no academic prowess, and would be better off not playing games on TV to improve recruiting. I have to say, at least you are entertaining.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:18 pm
Biggest Difference in Grad Rates Between Football Players and All Students
Major Programs
Football Players All Students Difference
Cal 54% 90% -36%
UCLA 59% 90% -31%
USC 61% 87% -26%
Virginia 68% 93% -25%
Georgia Tech 55% 79% -24%
Basketball Graduation Rates: ACC
Wake Forest 100%
Duke 100%
Boston College 89%
North Carolina 89%
Virginia Tech 86%
Miami 82%
North Carolina St. 80%
Clemson 67%
Florida St. 67%
Virginia 50%
Maryland 46%
Georgia Tech 27%
Pretty embarrisinfg
Case closed.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:19 pm
According to Headley, Tech is an easy school with no academic prowess, and would be better off not playing games on TV to improve recruiting. I have to say, at least you are entertaining.
Thanks
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:19 pm
As for Duke? 86% grad rate after 4 years for ALL students, and 90+% after 5 years:
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/unc-systems-grad-rate-33-percent
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:20 pm
headley: what exactly are you trying to prove with your stats?
TechApp fan
November 26th, 2012
5:21 pm
I hope FSU wins the toss Saturday and kicks to Tech. Then a Tech QB will lead Tech to a seven point lead! That is what should have happened last Saturday.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:22 pm
See ya guys.
Hope ive brought a little truth to your little worlds today.
Funny I dont see Supersize anymore.
LOL
SansWorld
November 26th, 2012
5:22 pm
I suspect that the GT Basketball graduation rate improves in the coming years
I am curious what foodball grad rate looks like in a few years. The football has has very little attrition lately, lots of red shirts, and few really leaving the program. I wonder if that will translate to more graduations.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:23 pm
Biggest Difference in Grad Rates Between Basketball Players and All Students
Major Programs
Basketball Players All Students Difference
Cal 33% 90% -57%
Connecticut 25% 77% -52%
Georgia Tech 27% 79% -52%
It cant go anywhere but up.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:25 pm
headley: what exactly are you trying to prove with your stats?
That Tech for all its chest beating about academics ( which serve as an emotional crutch when they lose ) they really dont seem to care whether the student athletes graduate or not.
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:25 pm
headley: once again, what are you trying to prove?
yellowfever
November 26th, 2012
5:25 pm
GT BOB, so we beat UGA in total yardage but not in total points. So tell me again what excites you about that. With your logic I think Tech is undefeated this year.
SansWorld
November 26th, 2012
5:26 pm
The basketball graduation rate is shamefull,
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:26 pm
i wouldn’t say that grad rates mean we don’t care. All it says is, it’s hard to graduate from that school, especially for an athlete whose SAT score is far below the rest of the student population.
I see Cal-Berkeley and UVA on the list of poor performers as well. Fine institutions, tough institutions, and tough to graduate from as well.
David S.
November 26th, 2012
5:27 pm
headley lamar—–My Supervisor has two kids, one graduated from UGA two years ago and cannot get a job nor an interview… The other is about two graduate in DEC… and has already landed a job making very nice $$$ You can throw all you stats out… Tech also has a high rate of suicide because of the stress of the academics…. Take your farming, turfgrass, basketweaving school and turn your pea brain attention to something more important.. like getting a job, or enjoying the SEC Championship game that is coming up… JUST SHUT THE HELL UP DUDE
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:28 pm
i wouldn’t say that grad rates mean we don’t care.
If thats the case then they are doing an awful job.
GT Joe
November 26th, 2012
5:28 pm
do grad rates take into account kids who left for the NBA like bosh and favors, or kids that transferred like Rice?
Grad rates are irrelevant, but keep harping on it. you own us in football (for now), but please don’t compare academics. That is ultimate ignorance.
David S.
November 26th, 2012
5:28 pm
the one that is about to graduate is grauating from TECH sorry about that
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:29 pm
headley lamar—–My Supervisor has two kids, one graduated from UGA two years ago and cannot get a job nor an interview… The other is about two graduate in DEC
Blah blah blah means nothing.
GT1990
November 26th, 2012
5:29 pm
@KEN
How do you feel about CPJ ? He is a total a** to you in every press conference.
DS CE'91
November 26th, 2012
5:29 pm
Fellow GT alums,
Why are you all feeding the trolls? They are only on here because they are hiding from the Bammers who are lurking on their boards. Why bother engaging them? Skip their posts; its done wonders for my disposition.
GO JACKETS!!!
David S.
November 26th, 2012
5:30 pm
my typing sucks… so I’m out
rich
November 26th, 2012
5:31 pm
As a long time Jacket fan, after the Jackets get routed again this weekend, I hope they are either left out of the bowl picture or have enough class to decline an invitation. They will be an embarassment to go to a bowl with a losing record….and, they will also run this risk of continuing their bowl losing streak. It is inexcusable that teams with losing records are rewarded with a bowl game
stanh
November 26th, 2012
5:31 pm
Im a longtime Tech fan and this is hard to say but I hope they get beat by FSU 100-0…..Paul Johnson is a joke…..Look at his recruiting….that says it all….PITIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
5:34 pm
GT BOB, so we beat UGA in total yardage but not in total points. So tell me again what excites you about that.
Nothing excites me about it. Personally I think our offense played terrible against UGA. But they still put up well over 400 yards of offense without much of a problem. To make the assertion that GT cannot compete with UGA’s amazing bionic size and strength on defense is just absurd. UGA’s defense didn’t look all that great against GT.
SansWorld
November 26th, 2012
5:34 pm
“do grad rates take into account kids who left for the NBA like bosh and favors, or kids that tansferred like Rice?”
I think they do not, clearly many of the top players that came to GT for basketball had no intention of graduating, and the GT Staff likely had no expectation of this either. Of course this was not a winning formula for CPH.
Not something to look back with pride IMO.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:35 pm
How do you feel about CPJ ? He is a total a** to you in every press conference.
Ken seems like a nice guy but Johnson is a total jerk.
Its obvious.
The fact he cant even get along with the media in Atlanta most notably the flagship radio station for Tech football says all you need to know.
headley lamar
November 26th, 2012
5:38 pm
Nothing excites me about it. Personally I think our offense played terrible against UGA. But they still put up well over 400 yards of offense without much of a problem. To make the assertion that GT cannot compete with UGA’s amazing bionic size and strength on defense is just absurd. UGA’s defense didn’t look all that great against GT.
This is spin of the highest order.
UGA had a plan to give up some yards but stay away from the big plays.
And that’s exactly what they did.
You eliminate the big ones from CPJ offense and make them go the length of the field, eventually you are going to get them off schedule with the down and distance and then they are toast.
Its just a matter of when.
rip
November 26th, 2012
5:51 pm
The game Tech played Saturday was an embarrassment. they (Tech) don’t deserve an invitation to a bowl game and Paul Johnson should be relieved of his duties today
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
5:54 pm
The fact he cant even get along with the media in Atlanta most notably the flagship radio station for Tech football says all you need to know.
Yeah, I wish we had a coach who seems like he is asleep in every interview like Richt. He is the epitome of excitement.
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
5:55 pm
UGA had a plan to give up some yards but stay away from the big plays.
Funny, BYU just shut us down completely, but I guess UGA’s strategy of letting us run wild for a while was another way to go.
jeffjacket
November 26th, 2012
5:56 pm
I am on the record right now , I support CPJ , you guys are back-stabbers!
I don’t care how we got there, we are going to the ACC championship for the second time in 5 years. Name me another coach with such an accomplishment. I do admit , the terrible defense gave the appearence of a team giving up last sat. Guys, there is a reason you fire your DC in the middle of the year , this defense is severely flawed! Lets move on and make the best of the last 2 games! I guess you guys don’t remember the early 80’s shame—– 1 and 10 , 3 and 8 , come on!
GO JACKETS!!!! I STILL SAY TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!!!
Stinger 1
November 26th, 2012
6:12 pm
headley lamar = GTBob GTBob = headley lamar
gtforever
November 26th, 2012
6:14 pm
Doginsewer wrote”Bamers bastes unssx by es 50.” Is this the same person who had a poster that stated”Go Dwags”.
What is the meaning of this statement? Can another dwag translate please?
GT1990
November 26th, 2012
6:15 pm
@Headley
If i was ken, i would write some article bashing him.
1 4 GT
November 26th, 2012
6:22 pm
Bob, so what! What the hell good are yards if they don’t result in points for your side? Quit it! Doofus!
Clearing up the confusion
November 26th, 2012
6:24 pm
for GTBob. Bob the object of the game is to SCORE POINTS not move the ball up and down the field.
Ghost
November 26th, 2012
6:29 pm
Chan never had a losing season while playing tougher schedules. Firing Chan wasn’t a mistake(he had lost interest in GT as much as GT had lost in him) but the hiring of Paul Johnson , a coach who had never recruited or coached(in any capacity) at a major conference was. DRad bought into the notion that PJs system would work with better athletes. His assumption was partially correct it did work well with Gaileys (Giff Smiths) 2006 and 2007 recruiting classes filling the roster. Drad didn’t realize PJ shortcomings in recruiting (PJ reaches on far too many marginal recruits) and his inability coaching up better athletes . PJ and the staff he’s hired are in way over their heads.If Tech doesn’t make a change soon it will take a new regime years to clean up the mess that’s been created. PJ isn’t a bad coach he’s just out of his element , he will work wonders for a Southern Conference program.
GT Lee
November 26th, 2012
6:29 pm
So hedy lamar (or USMC Jacket or whatever you’re calling yourself these days), you claim your father and grandfather were Marines. I guess they would know what words like Duty, Honor, Courage, Loyalty, etc mean. So tell us hedy, how do the men in your family go from being honorable Marines to a chickensh1t scumbag lowlife Internet Troll who hides behind a keyboard and hurls insults because he’s too much of a coward to say it to someone’s face? I wonder if your Marine forefathers are more disgusted with you or more ashamed of you.
Milk Bone Underwear
November 26th, 2012
6:44 pm
UGA=My employees!
1 4 GT
November 26th, 2012
6:57 pm
To Whom It May Concern: the average time needed for a student, that’s “student”=non athlete, to earn a bachelor’s degree at the Georgia Institute of Technology is 5 2/3 years. Tech has a program that helps athletes earn their degree after their athletic eligibility is used up. So shut up about Tech not caring. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
dry dirt road
November 26th, 2012
6:58 pm
can you imagine Tech going to the Orange Bowl and losing this year to Mid Tenn St who lost to Mcneice St this year? or imagine Tech catching the flu when free shots from the infirmary were available during Pink Powder Puff month up until now? or not wearing the white helmets against Georgia, instead wearing the gold helmets that correspond to the losing win-loss record against Georgia?
GT1990
November 26th, 2012
7:03 pm
@14 GT
How do you feel about CPJ these days? Do you see a bright future for this program?
GT1990
November 26th, 2012
7:07 pm
@14 GT
Remember a few months ago when you and a few more guys stood up for TW and CPJ? I tried to tell you what was going to happen and you refuse to believe me. It’s ok though. Hopefully you will listen next time
Looking for tickets
November 26th, 2012
7:09 pm
I have been searching the various ticket outlets for ACC and SEC titles games and discovered something monumental.
The cheapest SEC Championship ticket I have found is $300 – the cheapest ACC Championship ticket is $3. Holy cow the SEC is 100 times better according to the ticket prices.
1 4 GT
November 26th, 2012
7:14 pm
Calling people garbage….then turn around & call that same person’s Mother garbage=a surefire guaranteed way to win friends & influence people. Selah!
GT1990
November 26th, 2012
7:20 pm
Answer my question please. I don’t care to argue with you. TW is GARBAGE as a FBS QB! You know where i stand with him and CPJ. I want to know how you feel about the two.
GT1990
November 26th, 2012
7:26 pm
Do you honestly feel like CPJ and TW could beat any top 25 team this year?
killerj
November 26th, 2012
7:27 pm
Tech-ly this team is 6-6,because of a pumpkin eating team we are left with the bag of wrong doings by another,why are we made out to be the bad guy,s?,this will be taken into consideration.Roll Wreck!
Rooty Tooty
November 26th, 2012
7:31 pm
Truly, I wish Gt had opted out of the ACC CG. To win by default is like kissing your sister. What could have been a decent year went down the drain simply because we have nobody that can stop anybody. Tell me it ain’t so, Joe. If we had any kind of defence, we could easily been 9-3.
tony
November 26th, 2012
7:32 pm
lol usc? so end a dismal season with 3 straight losses and a 6-8 record
time to extend and increase pj offense right! he’s a genius!
tony
November 26th, 2012
7:36 pm
if we do play usc, then the overall score for the final 3 games will be something like 115-37
blackandwhitestripes
November 26th, 2012
7:38 pm
dawfan! and Bama will surely do the work against the leg-humpers.
1 4 GT
November 26th, 2012
7:44 pm
It was Me and my Mother I was referring to, but you have obviously forgotten. I have nothing else to say to you.
GT man
November 26th, 2012
7:46 pm
It dosent look like Mr. PJ will resign or be fired, so hope FSU beats them 100-0. Maybe PJ cen embarass GT even more than against ga. # years of Al Groh, then 2 years that GT had a better team than Ga, and PJ still sticks with stupid choices. At least our first team out scored Ga’s third string 7-0
Bananajacket
November 26th, 2012
7:57 pm
CPJ certainly deserves some criticism, but I do seem to remember a few weeks back (and the last several years) a great number of Dawg “fans” calling CMR and his staff losers, stupid, stubborn, etc. after losing a game. Guess when you win, you are “genius” and when you lose, worthless! Expert fans and expert bloggers—you got to love ‘em!
CC
November 26th, 2012
8:13 pm
So let’s let the Tech Basketball team and Coach Gregory (at least as far as they’ve played this year) be an example of what’s to happen concerning Paul Johnson… or, at least, should happen.
Coach Gregory has gained the respect of his players, has a STRONG pulse, has gotten some great recruits, and —- at this point —- makes us fans feel like the uproar that occurred until Paul Hewitt was canned (mega-dollars be danged!) contributed greatly to a better basketball program already.
Let’s hope for football. — It could happen.
NtheNo
November 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
Has any program expressed interest in PJ since he’s been @ Tech? I think you guys got a solid High School coach but no more. Can’t recruit and refuses to change other than to totally screw up your tradition with those outlandishly silly honeycomb thingys.
Dawg1
November 26th, 2012
8:27 pm
Good Luck this Saturday guys…
As for the UGA game, we’ll see what happens. Win or lose; I think the Tech folks who believe that UGA will get blown out will be disappointed. I expect this game to be a fight to the finish.
Again – good luck on Saturday against a very talented FSU team.
JB
November 26th, 2012
8:43 pm
Richt is a good man. He could of stayed up tempo offense the entire game with the starters and really made it bad. ( There ARE coach’s who would do that, in fact, I believe your coach would smirk and keep scoring on UGA if he could). Tech deserves better than what this Dawg fan saw Saturday. It really looked like AA Ball. Hope you hire a decent AD and get back on track. Not a good year to be coach hunting, but it’s coming for Tech. Good as it’s gonna get with him. He’s a dead man walking with a big contract, but hey, next year knocks off 2.4 mil off the payoff to get him to leave.
Bryan
November 26th, 2012
8:51 pm
With any luck they won’t grant GT the waiver. Let’s be honest, 6-8 will be our record as CPJ can’t win a bowl no matter who they play. Before Gailey, GT had the highest bowl winning percentage in college. Where are we now?
GT. Fan
November 26th, 2012
8:53 pm
Let’s all cut the garbage….we were killed by UGa and the ACC was totally destroyed Saturday. The ACC’s top 3 teams and Wake lost to the SEC EAST by almost 100 points and 75% of the games were on the ACC teams home fields. Vandy and UGa started putting in subs in the 3rd qtr so it could have been much worse. We were totally humiliated….thank goodness we didn’t face teams from the SEC West. We are just totally out of our league against the SEC!
GT1990
November 26th, 2012
9:08 pm
If you think CPJ should be fired press 1
Yellow Jacket 89
November 26th, 2012
9:16 pm
Go Jackets!
Roll Tide Roll!!!
Bama beats UGA. Then UGA falls behind UF and thus misses a BCS bowl bid. That would be great.
cpj
November 26th, 2012
9:18 pm
I hope we can hold the Noles under 50, but I really don’t know how we can do it. Please fans, yell loud for us at the game, all 6 of you.
Tokyo jacket
November 26th, 2012
9:19 pm
Ken,
I’d love to hear from president Peterson if the Institute is committed to athletic excellence. After losing D-Rad and the UGA debacle, I think such a commitment is exactly what we need. Frankly, I question our commitment to excellence at the highest levels. I know we’re not exactly flush with cash in the AA right now, but its going to get worse before it gets better if the Institute, not the AA, doesn’t give us something to be excited about soon. It’s going to be a very long off-season and we need to make. A splash when it comes to our AD and getting a DC who can help close the very obvious talent gap between GT and the teams our fan base expects to be competitive against would go a long way to show me there is a true commitment. Without such a splash, I question how interested I’ll be next year.
Mind you, this is coming from a fan who made road trips to VT and UMD this year along with multiple 14 hr flights to atl from 2007-2010.
Any chance you could interview Bud Peterson?
Tokyo jacket
November 26th, 2012
9:22 pm
Anyone who thinks UGA is going to get blown out is flat out stupid. There was some serious talent on the filed against us. Bamas offense isn’t that scary.
Techster
November 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
ESPN is reporting that Tech is unlikely to get a waiver when (er, I mean “if”) it loses to FSU on Saturday. The way Tech is playing, Saturday will just be another embarrassment. Blow-out losses two weeks in a row isn’t likely to generate a waiver. Wouldn’t Tech just be better off telling the ACC that it will pass on the ACC Championship game and then go to a lesser bowl, like the Belk Bowl – a venue that Tech fans would actually travel to – than to play FSU, lose and get knocked out of a bowl game altogether?
UGAGrad99
November 26th, 2012
9:53 pm
Read the ESPN article on the waiver. The rules were updated over this past summer so the UCLA ruling is not precedent. Seems very likely Tech could stay home when they lose. Shows how bad the ACC is. 0-3 this past weekend and one of the championship teams is barely .500. When was the last time the ACC was relevant?
TVFan
November 26th, 2012
10:01 pm
Rumors about the Big 10 in Atlanta. We’ll see.
GT65
November 26th, 2012
10:18 pm
I have lost all faith in CPJ..if we lose against FSU– CPJ needs to do like Drads-get the hell out of town!
GT65
November 26th, 2012
10:21 pm
Tokyo jacket….I’ll take the Tide.
SCOTT A--Colorado.
November 26th, 2012
10:27 pm
Like a lot of TECH people, I bleed White and Gold. Even have a degree from that fine North Avenue Trade School. Yeller Britches looked sad on Saturday, like they didn’t even show up.
FSU’s licking their wounds from last week–maybe CPJ can rally the troops one more time in the second half…
SCOTT A--Colorado.
November 26th, 2012
10:27 pm
Like a lot of TECH people, I bleed White and Gold. Even have a degree from that fine North Avenue Trade School. Yeller Britches looked sad on Saturday, like they didn’t even show up.
FSU’s licking their wounds from last week–maybe CPJ can rally the troops one more time in the second half…
SCOTT A--Colorado.
November 26th, 2012
10:27 pm
Like a lot of TECH people, I bleed White and Gold. Even have a degree from that fine North Avenue Trade School. Yeller Britches looked sad on Saturday, like they didn’t even show up.
FSU’s licking their wounds from last week–maybe CPJ can rally the troops one more time in the second half…
SCOTT A--Colorado.
November 26th, 2012
10:27 pm
Like a lot of TECH people, I bleed White and Gold. Even have a degree from that fine North Avenue Trade School. Yeller Britches looked sad on Saturday, like they didn’t even show up.
FSU’s licking their wounds from last week–maybe CPJ can rally the troops one more time in the second half…
SCOTT A--Colorado.
November 26th, 2012
10:27 pm
Like a lot of TECH people, I bleed White and Gold. Even have a degree from that fine North Avenue Trade School. Yeller Britches looked sad on Saturday, like they didn’t even show up.
FSU’s licking their wounds from last week–maybe CPJ can rally the troops one more time in the second half…
GTBob
November 26th, 2012
10:39 pm
for GTBob. Bob the object of the game is to SCORE POINTS not move the ball up and down the field.
I am fully aware of that. That wasn’t the topic of discussion earlier though. People are just taking what I said out of context and making up their own argument.
Gubber
November 26th, 2012
10:59 pm
Fire Paul Johnson dot com
Gubber
November 26th, 2012
11:01 pm
426 yards 10 points
That’s paul johnson football
Roddy Piper
November 26th, 2012
11:02 pm
First of all, I am a UGA fan, but not a troll. My dad was a huge GT fan and he passed away a few years ago and I would give ANYTHING to sit and watch one more game with him win or LOSE!! I do keep up with GT football and in my “opinion” this is some of GT’s issues. You have NO defense……wait (you already knew that) but I think a LOT of that is due to your offense! I don’t know if any DC can correct that with all the practice time against the TO and the type of recruits you pursue for the TO. How can a decent scout team run a “pro” style offense when you only have TO people in the stable. That being said you have a great offense, but I see that as your trade off!! To make it work you might need to find a DC with as odd of an defensive strategy as CPJ offense, like a Tenuta. Blitz like crazy to get some 3 and outs! The other thing I can’t help but notice is UGA now defines y’alls season. If we start loosing I am sure we would feel the same way but until thanksgiving UGA doesn’t really even think about y’all. Lastly let me say this, I would be honored for my kids to attend GT and the academics they offer. As a matter of fact, it will probably happen with my son, but this is about football and it is just an excuse here!
Gubber
November 26th, 2012
11:08 pm
49th
There’s the problem
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2013/all/all
tankbustertechiedisgusting..i guess
November 27th, 2012
12:19 am
winning season…winning season!!!!!! we don’t need no stinking winning season….we got a bowl waiver senor. no sense kicking yourself in the rear…seems not to long ago tech would have loved to be compared with auburn now auburn is out of wins and coaching
(ps) i think chizic is available and dooley too….by the way where is that rascal ‘o’leary… really down in fla…does he do consulting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tankbustertechiedisgusting..i guess
November 27th, 2012
12:31 am
heres a flash for you (techiesankbusterlikemyself) when paul johnson helped to turn around hawaii there was no triple implosion and he used 2 star pineapple pickers he is flexible
tankbustertechiedisgusting..i guess
November 27th, 2012
12:50 am
lets see here if we play 14 games X 4 quarters is well how many quarters did we win(not counting the fcs debacle) seems easily we led in …DAMN paul you know i don’t like the smell of fish!!!!!!!!!
SKEPTICAL OBSERVER
November 27th, 2012
7:08 am
BOOZE HOUND
VT MAY BE RANCID …. BUT THEY BEAT GT – REMEMBER LABOR DAY
and … OH YEAH DIDN’T LOSE TO MTSU
Karl
November 27th, 2012
8:43 am
Paul Johnson …. Great offensive coordinator.
headley lamar
November 27th, 2012
11:39 am
So hedy lamar (or USMC Jacket or whatever you’re calling yourself these days), you claim your father and grandfather were Marines.
No
Grandfather served in US Navy for 25 years.
Father served in Air Force for same amount of time.
I took the asvab and was about to go through meps but ultimately decide it wasn’t for me.
Just to set the record straight.
GT Lee
November 27th, 2012
11:44 am
Either way, headly, how did the men in your family go from honorable military men to scumbag internet troll?
Reality
November 27th, 2012
1:21 pm
I almost hope that the number of pitiful anti-Tech posts here are from one person. I would hate to think that there is more than one person that is this much of an idiot.
On the other hand, it would be scary to think that there is more than one person with so much time on their hands and also so stupid.
The New ACC
November 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
I just have to put this out there…..
I will laugh and laugh if GA Tech goes to a BCS Bowl and UGA does not!!!!!
To move the ball
November 27th, 2012
2:35 pm
If UGA ended up with only 125 total yard BUT scored 11 points, They won.
All of the noise about GT total yards vs UGA comes up every year. That is really pathetic.
THE FINAL bkscore matters, not stats.
A-mazed
November 29th, 2012
7:44 am
I think the troll comments are probably by one person. Notice that they talk about how bad Tech is and never once mention that the Mutts are pretty damned good. I hate that, but it is true!
tech fan for life
November 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
PJ should do the honorable thing and declare a ban on Tech’s
Bowl Eligibility really Paul you do not deserve a bowl game
but a shot at the playoffs would be nice (hint – hint)
Write It Down.
November 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
If we do go to a bowl, I would prefer not to see one Senior (or anyone who is considering leaving the program) play. If we’re going to make this about experience, practice, and preparation for next year, then let’s do so.
This year, I went to fan appreciation day and I thanked Paul Johnson for what he has done for us. This season has been a very bitter pill to swallow for all of us. It’s hard to be thankful now.
I’ve seen CPJ adapt in the past. However, this is an uphill battle for him. We may have put him in a pay scale that causes him to become complacent – I don’t know. As I stated in a previous post, the light bulb came on for me during the UGA game. Recruiting ‘athletes,’ instead of position players is *not* getting it done.
I’ve heared sports analysts refer to two college coaches as ‘Evil Offensive Geniuses.’ One was Steve Spurrier. The other was Paul Johnson. However, Spurrier figured out the whole ‘Defense’ issue a long time ago. Under him, Duke, Florida, and South Carolina all played outstanding defense. Johnson, on the other hand, still seems to struggle with it.
In fairness, however, Johnson, nor we, have a crystal ball. Who knew Al Groh was going to combine defense and Quantum Physics to the point where there wasn’t a player who could understand how to play?
The more simpler math suggests Johnson needs to right the ship quickly. At the end of a game, when your opponent’s score reads ‘0,’ you win. I doesn’t matter if you score 2 points or 222 points — you win.
If he can’t pull it together, I hope Paul Johnson will do the honorable thing and resign. I want him to succeed at Tech. However, I will refuse to sit quietly if we return to the Bill Lewis days.
P.S. Headly,
Your mom called. When you finish work-release, stop by the store and pick up some smokes and condoms for her.