Tech applies for bowl-eligibility waiver
Georgia Tech believes it’s going to a bowl game. Other parts of the college football world are less confident.
In one more chapter in the strange saga that has been the Yellow Jackets season, the school faces the possibility of playing in the ACC Championship game with the most disparate of outcomes – beat Florida State and go to the Orange Bowl or lose and stay home. This scenario is far from a certainty, but is not out of the question, either.
Tech has petitioned the NCAA for a bowl-eligibility waiver in the event that it loses to the Seminoles to fall to 6-7, which would drop the Yellow Jackets below the .500 standard necessary to go to a bowl game. School, ACC and bowl officials have been confident that the NCAA will grant the waiver.
“We have full confidence that, at the end of the day, we’re going to be playing in a bowl game among the ACC selections between Dec. 27 and the first of January,” acting athletic director Paul Griffin said, “and we’re doing everything we can to be prepared to play the first of January at the Orange Bowl. Beyond that, everything else is secondary.”
Tech could receive an answer from the NCAA prior to Saturday’s game against the Seminoles. Reports have suggested pushback against Tech being granted the waiver.
Monday, NCAA spokesman Christopher Radford debunked reported claims that Tech has no chance at bowl eligibility if it loses to FSU.
“I’ve seen a couple reports out there (stating) that it’s already been decided, that they will not be eligible for a waiver, and that’s not accurate,” he said. “There has been no decision or official movement either way at this point.”
Tech’s petition will go before the concisely-named NCAA Division I Legislative Council Subcommitee for Legislative Relief. The waiver request likely makes Tech’s case on why it is deserving of eligibility. Radford said his recollection of UCLA’s petition included the argument that it was only playing in the Pac-12 Championship game, and thus putting itself at risk to fall below .500, because USC was ineligible. Tech could make the same contention, as Miami’s self-imposed postseason ban enabled the Yellow Jackets to play for the ACC title.
Tech could also offer up UCLA as a precedent case and offer the line of logic that it shouldn’t be penalized for playing in a championship game. The argument against is that there are a sufficient number of bowl-eligible teams and that one of them shouldn’t be denied a bowl spot in favor of a team that requires a waiver to be considered.
How Tech’s petition will be received by the NCAA is uncertain.
“I quit trying to guess the NCAA years ago,” Football Bowl Association executive director Wright Waters said. “If I could figure out the NCAA, I would go buy lottery tickets.”
The Tech team is proceeding with the understanding that it will be playing in a bowl game regardless, either the Orange Bowl with a victory or most likely the Sun Bowl with a loss, as the Chick-fil-A and Russell Athletic bowls would almost certainly bypass Tech at 6-7. The Sun Bowl, where Tech played last December, is contractually obligated to invite the ACC runner-up if it’s available.
“We’ll worry about (not receiving the waiver) if that happens, I guess,” coach Paul Johnson said Monday. “I just go off what our athletic director tells me. He’s usually a better source than reporters.”
Griffin said that Tech would be willing to drop down past the Sun Bowl if it made sense for all involved parties. Given that the Jackets just went to El Paso, Texas, Sun Bowl officials probably wouldn’t protest such a maneuvering around ACC bylaws. Discussions on the matter have only been internal to this point.
The Jackets, of course, can skip the waiver rigmarole easily.
Said Griffin, “We’re planning to go to the Orange Bowl.”
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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South GA Jacket
November 26th, 2012
10:53 pm
Third
Jeff
November 26th, 2012
10:54 pm
Georgia Tech vs Kent State…an Orange Bowl for the ages!
Empty Seats
November 26th, 2012
10:54 pm
second.
Empty Seats
November 26th, 2012
10:55 pm
See no one cares.
Empty Seats
November 26th, 2012
10:57 pm
cpj is number one! no defense or special teams please. oh thanks.
Biff Pocoroba
November 26th, 2012
10:58 pm
Danny Hall would be torn if Tech plays Kent State. ABC might move that game to Hulu and show a repeat of Modern Family instead.
Empty Seats
November 26th, 2012
10:58 pm
Get a referral letter from d rad for your waver letter
nomo
November 26th, 2012
11:06 pm
a bowl game at 6-7??? are serious?? tech should decline any bowl and go home after another failed season—this is embarrassing.
Empty Seats
November 26th, 2012
11:11 pm
Ken – ask pj how he what his vision is for the defense and special teams through 2016.
Enrico
November 26th, 2012
11:20 pm
As a long-time GA Tech fan I always root for the white and gold, but with a record of 6-7 I think it’s best that they stay home this bowl season.
CC
November 26th, 2012
11:21 pm
Let’s see:
Finish the season 6-6 but you don’t qualify to play in the ACC Championship game. You get a bowl game.
Finish the season 6-6 but you play for the ACC Championship and lose. You don’t get a bowl game because you got to play one more game than everyone else for the Championship, lost, which technically gave you a losing record.
For cryin’ out loud folks!!! Base bowl games on regular season records and equal number of games played for all teams.
Is it REALLY that difficult to figure out??!!? This is getting really stupid.
William
November 26th, 2012
11:23 pm
Orange bowl or nothing. I say nothing. Tech doesn’t deserve a bowl at 6-7. Fire Paul Johnson and start over. The cupboard is bare.
Dobby Bodd
November 26th, 2012
11:24 pm
I’ve had enough. CPJ has to go. Enough off the sideshow. Run a wishbone (Pepper Rodgers style) or don’t. Enough of the CPJ arrogance…IF he could recruit capable athletes, this offense MIGHT just work (70’s & 80’s Oklahoma or Nebraska anyone??)…but no matter what, without a defense and special teams, WE CAN NOT WIN.
Realist
November 26th, 2012
11:30 pm
Let’s face it. Tech’s academic requirements prevent the average UGA, ‘Bama, Florida or LSU recruit from committing to GT. Dodd, Ross and O’Leary all made it work…somehow, some way we have to find that special Coach/Recruiter/Leader again…otherwise, let’s just join the Ivy League and drop all athletic scholarships.
Supersize THIS !!
November 26th, 2012
11:31 pm
“Tech applies for bowl-eligibility waiver” You know, there’s just nothing more to say.
WnE
November 26th, 2012
11:47 pm
WHY apply for the Bowl Waiver IF you are confident in your ability to WIN THE GAME?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W42iiCcFbxE
CPJ is supposed to have so much swagger and confidence in “his system”, yet he is already making plans to LOSE.
If I were Prez Peterson, I’d say the hell you will apply for a waiver, “go and WIN the effin’ game”!
Earn your bowl bid that way!
CPJ is already SCAMMING the GTAA out of $2.6MM per yr. and how he’s using shady loopholes to qualify for bonuses that he doesn’t deserve w/o special gimmicky rules from the NCAA (i.e. bowl waivers).
CPJ should be ASHAMED for sinking to the level of seeking out CFB’s version of WELFARE, to get into a bowl by applying for a special waiver.
Why won’t CPJ just come out and say,”to heck with waivers, we’ll get our Bowl by beating FSU”?
I guess all you CPJ BLTs realize that he’s not the man you thought he was, and that you are now officially worshiping a greedy, cowardly, weasel.
Bleeding white and gold
November 26th, 2012
11:52 pm
Anyone have a phone number for Bill Lewis???
Bleeding white and gold
November 27th, 2012
12:02 am
Reggie Ball have any eligibility left?
doiknowu
November 27th, 2012
12:05 am
Kudos to Ken for correctly spelling “rigmarole.” Finding that in a place where most don’t know the difference between “lose” and “loose” is quite the surprise.
Rick James
November 27th, 2012
12:11 am
Sad..
GIVE ME A BREAK
November 27th, 2012
12:31 am
CC, I agree totally. Common sense is dead.
Nate the Great
November 27th, 2012
12:47 am
@CC & GIME ME A BREAK:
STFU!! If you are 6-7 regular season or postseason or whatever season you just need to stay home! No will watch your stupid team in whatever crap bowl they go to anyways, and includes your own damn fans!!
JTH
November 27th, 2012
1:01 am
Apply for a waiver to be called a football program. What a joke GT has become. If “Coach” Johnson coached as good as he talks then they would deserve to be in a bowl.
Nate the Great
November 27th, 2012
1:05 am
@Realist: The whole “academic standards” argument is a bold face lie and you know it. Think about it for two seconds, Chan Gailey was able to recruit an extremely athletic team, he couldn’t coach for crap, but he had talented athletes that could compete with anyone. In addition to list you named, Gailey actually put together a much more competitive program than CPJ. The only ACC (Almost Competitive Conference) championship he won, he did with Gailey’s recruits and ended up getting it stripped because your whole athletic department adds up to one ginormous moron!!
All I gotta say as a Dawg fan is, when will his contract extension be finalized!!
4 more years! 4 more years! 4 more years! 4 more years!
Bean Counter
November 27th, 2012
4:03 am
If the team is not good enough to have a winning record, why should NCAA grant them a waiver? A losing record and a history of no fan support are two good reasons they should stay home. It is sad to see Tech football fall to such lows! You are like the panhandlers dowtown – BEG TECH BEG!
Stinger 1
November 27th, 2012
4:34 am
GT should not play in a bowl game if they have a losing record. They are asking for what amounts to charity to do so. They would be taking the spot that a non-losing team would get if they have to play by means of a waiver. The argument that they
would be 6-6 and eligible if they did not have to play in the ACCCG is very weak. If they just happen to get extremely lucky and win against Florida State and have a 7-6 record, they will be some sad faces among Orange Bowl officials.
superDawg
November 27th, 2012
5:44 am
begging is the tek way
john
November 27th, 2012
5:59 am
Amazing!! UGAg is playing for a shot at the BCS and the ignorant, trailer-trash that makes up 90% of their fanbase are actually worrying if GT gets into a bowl??!!
Jacket Man
November 27th, 2012
5:59 am
With all of the “well wishing” fans from UGA here, wishing the Jackets luck this weekend, the same to you; I really hope the Bulldogs beat Bama and then the Irish to bring the Championship home.
To those who feel the need to belittle our team, I say to you that it would be poetic justice for the Jackets to win the ACCC Championship and go to the Orange Bowl and for Georgia to lose to Bama in the SEC Championship and to drop out of a BCS Bowl altogether.
GA beat GA Tech LAST weekend. Give it a rest and grow up. I can promise you BOTH teams have forgotten all about the game and are preparing for their NEXT opponents. If these TEENAGERS can do it, surely YOU can, can’t you?
Wrecker
November 27th, 2012
6:00 am
Dawg fans have no “dwag” in this fight and should simply waddle back to their doghouse with their tail between their legs, particularly after they lose to Bama this weekend. If the shoe were on the other foot, you know that UGA would want the extra practice and revenue of a bowl game.
Independent voter
November 27th, 2012
6:06 am
pitiful.. embarrassing ?? !!!
Woofy One
November 27th, 2012
6:16 am
Whatever bowl considers the Jackets will be expecting fan attendance.
GT71
November 27th, 2012
6:20 am
When i saw ‘waiver’, I assumed we had the good sense and CLASS to get a waiver FROM going to a bowl – any bowl. Even if we SNEAK into the Orange Bowl (not gonna happen), I’d suggest avoiding further embarrassment and simply not go. Let someone else go.
But NO! These clowns with a less than even average record WANT to go to a bowl.
Sure, the kids want to go. Sure, the school wants the money. But for heaven’s sake, get some class, some sense, some honor.
You don’t have to be another Obama, getting and accepting a prize unearned or take money/services from the government unearned, or just become another moocher like about 52 million dishonorable, mooching American voters.
Earn it and go; fail and stay home. Stay home, Jackets, stay home.
Whopper Dawg
November 27th, 2012
6:24 am
If that team, that coach, that program, that administration has a modicum of class, decency, self respect or respect for the game they play, if they lose to FSU to finish the season with a losing record, they should just go softly into the night and not play another game.
BigTimeTECHFan
November 27th, 2012
6:43 am
No waiver needed, Tech is fired up to beat FSU.
We need a count-down ticker for the ACC-Championship Game on the Sprots front page.
I would rather the NCAA say no, then give the waiver to Ohio St so we can see the two best teams in the country play for the Nat’l title – OSU verses Notre Dame.
Notso Fast
November 27th, 2012
6:46 am
I pull for GT BUT to ask for a waiver before you play FSU is like saying to the world “we ain’t got a chance”. GT should put in on the line and say if we don’t win, we don’t deserve to go to a bowl game. If you have a losing record you should stay home and work on having a winning record next year.
John Strickland
November 27th, 2012
6:54 am
Bama and UGA should fill out a waiver that a loss in the SEC Championship should not effect where they are in the BCS ranking and the loser of the SEC Championship will go to the BCS Sugar Bowl and not drop to the next level of bowls!
B. Dodd
November 27th, 2012
6:56 am
What can possibly be the motivation for Tech going to a bowl? Is it CPJ’s enormous ego? Come on, don’t embarrass the few faithful left by backing into a division title, losing to Florida State and then getting creamed in another nothing bowl. Give it up!
RichT
November 27th, 2012
7:04 am
Paul Johnson gets a little credibility back if he declares they will not participate in a bowl game if invited, noting that they do not deserve one this season.
BubbaDaBaller
November 27th, 2012
7:23 am
Maybe if they bring the concisely-named NCAA Division I Legislative Council Subcommitee for Legislative Relief a “shrubbery”…they’ll be allowed to play in some backwater town on Dec 29th at 3pm
St. Simons
November 27th, 2012
7:32 am
BWAAAAHAAAAA! Oh wait, never mind.
dick whiskey
November 27th, 2012
7:39 am
this paul johnson experiment has failed get rid of the old fool and get someone young with fresh ideas,johnson is such a jerk and a-hole makes it easy to pull against him
UGADave
November 27th, 2012
8:10 am
@Realist – No need to keep using “Tech’s academic requirements” any longer as a reason to accept mediocre football. Look at the top 10. Do you think Notre Dame and Stanford’s requirements are much different than Tech’s? Plus, their guys graduate at a rate higher than anyone else. It’s certainly more difficult to compete on the recruiting trail with the likes of UGA and the rest of the SEC, but it can be done. The reality is that if Tech had any sort of defense this year, they might have 9-10 wins instead of 6 and the conversation leading up to the ACC championship game would be very different. Johnson’s already gone through 3 DC’s so he apparently isn’t very good at choosing them. The issue hasn’t been his “high school” offense, it’s been the atrocious defense.
GT Willie
November 27th, 2012
8:13 am
Really? So you’re telling me as a mechanical engineering student, I could have applied for a “passing grade waiver” if I failed the final exam? Wonderful.
Jacket Attack
November 27th, 2012
8:14 am
Okay so let me get this right were bowl eligible and we get punished because Miami and UNC cheats?????? Oh hell no I don’t think so. Those kids fought hard to keep the streak alive and because 2 other teams cheat and we get tossed into the acc championship we get punished? Im glad to be in charlotte myself and I for one will be there yelling for the Jackets. I do doubt that many on here pay a dime to the tech fund but oh well jump off the boat who needs ya! Gives me a better chance to upgrade my season tickets closer to the field. I can tell you what’s obvious here is you ugag fans know that you can’t and wont beat bama and you know Tech has a shot at a BCS bowl and you dont after we beat the noles. So work that overtime this week buy you one of those tickets for the dome and watch Bama demolish you all facts are facts jack! Oh yeah for the record techs schedule and ugags win loss record is below. compare if you dont mind and ive added saturdays championship in both! Might tough schedule there for UGAG there!
Techs Schedule Ugags Schedule
W L W L
85 66 72 72
Rodster
November 27th, 2012
8:21 am
Good grief! If Tech loses to FSU, they should stay home! I would be embarrassed to take a team with a losing record to a bowl game.
Big Dawg
November 27th, 2012
8:21 am
So let me get this right, Tech is already palnning to lose the ACC Championship so they are begging to go to a bowl once they do. If they actually go to a bowl, do you think anybody will show up? Sad.
mgdawg
November 27th, 2012
8:24 am
First of all, the ACC is a joke. GHSA state championship tickets cost 4 times as much as ACC championship tickets. In comparison to the SEC where the worse tickets in the stadium are going for 400. One of the teams in the game, if they lose aren’t bowl eligible. To compare to the SEC, where the winner of the game is guaranteed a spot in the national championship games and the teams are ranked 2 and 3 in the bcs currently. When SEC teams cheat they win National Championships, auburn, when ACC teams cheat they still can’t win anything.
If tech is so worried about not becoming bowl eligible, decline playing in the ACC championship game. I’m sure paul johnson has broke another rule and he can claim that is their punishment. The sad part is that paul johnson thinks he can still win the sorry conference with a 6-6 team, but everyone else at tech is expecting a loss.
Jacket Attack
November 27th, 2012
8:25 am
Sure we will show up just like you all do but we will stay the entire time Big Dawg I figure the traffic in Atlanta will be heavy around halftime when bamas up by 30 on the mutts by then! Enjoy your game mutts you want be going back anytime soon!!!!!!!!!!!!
tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket
November 27th, 2012
8:27 am
I love the jackets, but think they should decline if they lose to the Criminoles. Regardless, I hope, seriously hope that Bama DESTROYS the low life Dawgs. No team that i watched this year talks trash and plays to hurt the opponent like the Dawgs. please Alabama, not just a win, but a destruction/
Johnny
November 27th, 2012
8:29 am
This is EMBARASSING for Tech. Even if they go to a Bowl game, they will only have around 1,000 fans there. There are high school teams in this state that have more fans that attend games.
BullDogMike
November 27th, 2012
8:31 am
After witnessing first hand what GT brings to the table , I said no way they could beat FSU. After watching Gators just steamroll them Sat. niteI am changing my mind. Just how pitiful is the ACC. ? I’m wondering now if Clemson or FSU could beat Vanderbilt? Sorry, but GT just needs to go to Division 2 …
common sense
November 27th, 2012
8:33 am
Beat Florida State or stay home,
to hell with what UCLA did last season.
Billy Nole
November 27th, 2012
8:33 am
TECH KILLS THIS CONFERENCE!!! DO US A FAVOR AND LEAVE PLEASE!!!
JoeFan
November 27th, 2012
8:40 am
Tech should decline the ACCCG and the bowl game but that want happen. So decline the ACCCG and go bowling keeping the streak alive. Its ugly either way.
common sense
November 27th, 2012
8:41 am
Having the opportunity to play in the Orange Bowl is plenty reward for a 6-6 team.
A 6-7 team deserves nothing
CrαZy
November 27th, 2012
8:46 am
For a 6-6 team bowl eligibility is more than a extra game and a trip… It’s a month of extra practice time for underclassmen. And if anyone needs the extra practice time it’s a 6-6 team.
james
November 27th, 2012
8:47 am
I’m ashamed to be a Georgia Tech fan,if we lose against Florida State we don’t deserve to go to any bowl.Really what bowl in their right mind would want a team that could not even sell all their tickets for a rivalry game less than 90 miles from home.
JM
November 27th, 2012
8:47 am
Why should Ga Tech players be punished because Miami fan paid players? They are eligible now and would be eligible after Saturday if Miami had not screwed up.
Bradley
November 27th, 2012
8:50 am
Why is there no talk on here of Tech going to the Big 10? It’s all over that it’s a done deal.
DC Jacket
November 27th, 2012
8:51 am
No true tech fan would want their team to miss a bowl game. Must be a bunch of mutts posing as GT backers. Or fairweather fans, which is just as bad.
You would deny your team weeks of extra practice time? You would deny the outgoing seniors one more game? You would see the bowl streak collapse?
St. Simons
November 27th, 2012
8:52 am
BWAAAAAAHAAAAAA. Oh wait, damn.
hahahaha
November 27th, 2012
9:03 am
Boohoo! Georgie was so mean to my little yeller jackers, I hope that Crimson Tide will come fight our fight for us and get that big ol’ bully, booohoooo
Crazy Robert
November 27th, 2012
9:04 am
John, please stop insulting trailer-trash!
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November 27th, 2012
9:10 am
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November 27th, 2012
9:13 am
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Iluvnutella
November 27th, 2012
9:14 am
If we have become a stepping stone, then start the business model now. Keep up-and coming coaches coming through the door. you dont have to pay em much, u just need a competent AD that keeps the phone lines open and knows when NOT to get into a bidding war. My inside sources say O’Leary gave Braine the option of bidding for him to stay and Braine said just get lost.
big daddy
November 27th, 2012
9:16 am
The whole bowl structure sucks. All bowl games should have a min. of 7 wins to qualify, not 6 as the present system is. I am a Tech fan but the whole picture is out of kilter. With all of the bowls I am sure you could find enough teams that have won 7 games to qualify.
ty webb
November 27th, 2012
9:20 am
“Those kids fought hard to keep the streak alive”
Paul Johnson says otherwise with respect to last Saturday.
Tommy
November 27th, 2012
9:31 am
Could a team be bowl eligible and decline a bowl invitation and still retain the rights to continue practicing during the bowl period? Let’s face it. If GT loses to Fla State it will be hard to sell the fans on purchasing bowl tickets to anywhere but the Southeast US. That is one reason Miami declined. They can’t sell tickets at their own stadium during the regular season. GT has the same problem.
BLS
November 27th, 2012
9:32 am
does anyone really care if they’re in a bowl? No one outside of GT fans and their opponent’s fans will watch anyway.
GT coaches and athletic director want this for two simple reasons:
1. bowl payout money
2. extra practices and game that better prepares the team for next season
NCAA Waiver Board
November 27th, 2012
9:44 am
We’ve seen enough.
DENIED
NCAA Waiver Board
November 27th, 2012
9:49 am
We don’t want any more of your players to be body slammed on the turf.
It’s a safety issue.
BartBuzz
November 27th, 2012
9:51 am
I’m a die hard Tech fan. But 6-7 isn’t deserving of a bowl game. I’m sorry to see the consecutive string end but GT should have beaten Middle Tennessee State.
CrαZy
November 27th, 2012
9:53 am
I’m fine with 6-6 teams getting bowl bids…. I don’t understand people that want to eliminate bowl games. I know there’s a lot of irrelevant games played during bowl season, but I love football so I’ll take a irrelevant football game over almost anything else on TV… except Duck Dynasty!!
Coach Hewitt...
November 27th, 2012
9:56 am
GT needs to consider the ACCCG their Bowl. Lose it & go home…
Cheapest CCG tix…
$350 – SEC (Alabama vs Georgia)
$75 – Pac-12 (Stanford-UCLA)
$25 – Big Ten (Wisconsin-Nebraska)
$3 – ACC (FSU-Georgia Tech)
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Raiderbeater
November 27th, 2012
10:04 am
If Tech beats FSU then the BCS should drop the ACC to the level of the WAC or MAC in power….no automatic BCS Bowl bids…..ever.
This weekends games with the SEC were pitiful to put it kindly for the ACC. Georgia Southern should have a better claim to a BCS bowl.
At least Maryland saw it coming and went into debt to get out of the ACC.
Habersham Dawg
November 27th, 2012
10:14 am
You always play the bowl game if you can. Always. Not just for the money, but for the extra game and the extra practice. And for all you fellow Georgia fans who are saying that if Tech loses it should just go into the night quietly, you wouldn’t be saying that if it was the Dawgs. So let Tech mind their bowl business while we mind ours.
Empty Seats
November 27th, 2012
10:28 am
pj cares about the bowl game. he gets a lot more money if we go. pj is not a person of character much less an adequate hc.
End this cruel thing.
Jacket Attack
November 27th, 2012
10:33 am
@ empty seats on behalf of all the real Georgia Tech fans you can koa and thats not us telling you to go camping jack!!!
The New ACC
November 27th, 2012
10:48 am
These folks on here to bash GA Tech are so silly and pitiful.
GA Tech is in the ACC Championship Game. It is not Tech’s fault that UNC is on NCAA probation. It is not Tech’s fault that Miami self-imposed a ban because of their infractions. How can either of these things be the fault of GA Tech?????
All GA Tech did was win 5 ACC regular season games. That’s it. And, that is what it took.
If you cannot understand at least that much, then you need help…. and a lot of it!
dwight
November 27th, 2012
10:49 am
Remember if they lose there is not time to apply for waive as bowl bids will all go out this weekend. So they have no chance but apply now if they lose but hope and plan to win and not need it.
Pesonally I would rather see requiremnet for bowl changed to winning records so we don’t have any teams who play in bowl end up with losing record.
The New ACC
November 27th, 2012
10:51 am
These folks on here to bash CPJ are so silly and pitiful.
His “system” is the offense. The offense has been outstanding every season at GA Tech. There is nothing at all wrong with the offense.
There is certainly something wrong with the defense and special teams. If there is fault with CPJ, it isn’t his offense at all. So, for you idiots that come here simply to bash GA Tech, picking on his offense is stupid – you need to pick on the defense and special teams.
As the head coach, CPJ is responsible for at least finding the right coaches and the right recruiters to vastly improved the defense and special teams. THERE is where the fault lies!
The New ACC
November 27th, 2012
10:53 am
Raiderbeater – You are certainly not knowledgeable about football. FSU was the better team and certainly should have beated Florida. Florida was lucky to win.
Please stop wasting your time on this blog with your silliness.
Jacket Nation Deflation
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
We are going to play in the “Pepto-Bismol Waiver Bowl”. It is a bowl game for two losing teams that specialize in “Upsets” of the stomach.
JAcket Hater
November 27th, 2012
11:34 am
Tech people kill me! Tech can’t beat Georgia so they immediately start saying “I hope BAMA destroys the Dogs!” Always have to live through someone else in order to celebrate a victory. Sad, sad, sad.
blazer
November 27th, 2012
11:34 am
Please don’t mention Bill Lewis name!!
Rick James
November 27th, 2012
11:48 am
If the waiver is granted Paul Johnson’s bonus should be given to charity…
Jacket Attack
November 27th, 2012
11:49 am
I don’t think were living through anyone else! I was in athens saturday you ugag fans won so be happy. I also heard you all chant you want bama! Well now you got them and good luck to you because I think you all know whats about to happen! If I remember right 2 years ago you all were screaming for Richt to be fired???? Now all you want to do is place a statue of him in front of that cesspool you call sanford stadium. I just wonder after Saturday if we win and you all lose and you fall to a second tier bowl if those yaps will be flapping? So like I told you before you and the rest of your ugag gang can KOA and we dont mean go camping jack!
David S.
November 27th, 2012
11:52 am
What a joke! No way in hell we should be going to a bowl game… Even if FSU throws up on theirselves in this ACC (All Cupcake Conference) championship game, TECH should do the honorable thing and not go to that… Just a thought, cause it damn sure want happen… I’m so sick of this CPJ and his entire damn staff… Is there anyone there at TECH with at least one hair on there butt, that will fire this arrognant PRICK…
Jacket Attack
November 27th, 2012
11:58 am
David you a funny guy! There should be no we in your blog entry! Your not we because a true fan supports there team no matter what! David I would dare to say your on break using the free wifi again at work on your phone you worked overtime and didn’t pay your bills so you could buy that phone. Here is a little tidbit of advice for you If you got season tickets next year dont buy them so I can upgrade mine. As far as pj being a arrognant prick maybe he is or maybe he isnt or maybe he just dont like ugag fans because we all know there the part of the donkey thats located under the tail!
David S.
November 27th, 2012
12:01 pm
JAcket Hater… I’m actually pulling for the Dogs… For nothing more the Coach Richt… Soooo many times the Dog nation wanted him gone, and he usually wins at a good level…. I’ve been a Tech fan for 38 years, my life and have never rooted for the Dogs, but Richt deserves this, especially with all the crap he has to put up with from the average Dog fan… I’m not one that calls for people to be axed from jobs very often, but with CPJ, its about as bad from the friggin days of Bill Lewis…
David S.
November 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
Jacket Attack–you’re a blind fan… Don’t question my loyality to the Jackets… However, I tend to always keep the ability to reason with facts…. Twist it however you may, but facts are in the W’s & the L’s….
David S.
November 27th, 2012
12:07 pm
Jacket Attack— I’m not at work today, I have the day off you sick elitist jerk
The New ACC
November 27th, 2012
12:11 pm
So many Jacket haters on this blog. Glad you guys have the time. No job?
The New ACC
November 27th, 2012
12:13 pm
David S. – GA Tech should go the bowl if invited. We have a nice long streak of years going to a bowl. Why should the school break the streak?
roughrider
November 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
Some of the Tech posters amaze me.It’s obvious that they do not realize that proud , native Georgians also pull for Tech and all other Georgia schools. As a UGA alum , I love my Dawgs but also pull for Tech in the rest of the games. Same for Ga Southern. I hope Tech can win the ACC championship, which would be a morale booster and also help recruiting. Good luck and remember to keep it positive.
bag over my jacket
November 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
I love how tech prepares for losing! Pitiful that you can go to your championship game and not even have a chance to play in a bowl game. Get rid of Johnson and this high school offense!
Matthew
November 27th, 2012
12:31 pm
Some (most) of the analogies you guys are posting aren’t even remotely the same. It’s funny that in the same breadth, you’ll mention Tech being embarrassing while at the same time posting something that embarrasses yourself.
11 of 12 supersized
November 27th, 2012
12:38 pm
Pretty simple. Step up and beat a down and disappointed FSU team and you go to Miami and the orange bowl. Who wouldnt be excited about that opportunity??? I mean really that is a BCS bowl that pays millions, gives you national exposure in prime time bowl season and beats the crap out of any other bowl scenario. Good luck against the noles and enjoy it people!!
OkieDawg
November 27th, 2012
12:49 pm
This is a beyond bizarre situation. A team that is playing for the ACC Championship may end up being ineligible for a post season bowl game. That has to make the ACC higher-ups realize something has gone terribly wrong in their conference.
I will be pulling for the Jackets to win because I hate to see them petition for a rule exception to gain bowl eligibility.
brad
November 27th, 2012
12:49 pm
Realist, GEORGIA TECH HAS THE WORST GRADUATION RATE IN HTE ACC WHERE AS GEORIGA IS EITHER 1 OR 2 EACH YEAR. Look at those tough academic standards for your basketball team!! At least we don’t have MURDERERS!
bigdawg
November 27th, 2012
1:02 pm
Why does Tech always use the excuse that they can’t recruit capable student-athletes. Stanford and Notre Dame don’t seem to have a problem? And, it doesn’t matter if they are private. I believe the main reason is that with Tech running a gimmick offense, football players who aspire to play on Sunday would rather go to schools running pro-style offenses, and, thus, enhance their chances of playing in the NFL.
bigdawg
November 27th, 2012
1:04 pm
And, just so you know, I root for Tech expect when they’re playing UGA, which is my alma mater!
bigdawg
November 27th, 2012
1:05 pm
…except when..
Al Bundy
November 27th, 2012
1:09 pm
There is a good chance Johnson won’t be coaching whatever bowl game we go to. Rumor has it that if Alabama loses to UGA they will fire Saban and hire Johnson. Of course that’s if Auburn or Tennesse doesn’t get Johnson first. I’m pretty sure there are several schools after Johnson.
Al Bundy
November 27th, 2012
1:11 pm
Seriously, if we lose to FSU we should go home and stay home. If I were a betting man, I’d bet we beat FSU! Go Jackets!
Reality
November 27th, 2012
1:14 pm
bigdawg -
Nope. You are wrong about the reason in your post. Let’s look more closely at the schools that you mention….
Stanford does have problems recruiting. They are a tough academic school and really cannot recuit the same players going to your school. In addition, their conference is geared more towards speed and passing, and less towards the “big and strong”. The SEC is geared more towards the “big and strong”.
Notre Dame is not as academically rigorous as Stanford. They can recruit some players that may go to your school. In addition, Notre Dame is a national brand and is very well known throughout the Country – this is a large advantage for them. While Stanford MAY be known (the name recognized), few in the Midwest or East coast really know the place or follow their football – unlike Notre Dame.
GA Tech is a much smaller college compared to Notre Dame or your school….. much, much smaller. Unlike the other three (ND, Stanford, or uga), GA Tech does have a limited selection of majors. And, the academic rigor is more close to Standford.
CPJ triple option offense has little to do with issues at GA Tech. It is much more the defense and special teams. GA Tech has scored tons of points against more every one of their opponents throughout the tenure of Paul Johnson.
The problem is that the “big and strong” players needed for defense either cannot get into GA Tech or they would prefer to play for Notre Dame or Michigan, or Alabama (for example). This leaves GA Tech with smaller and quicker players at defense – which really doesn’t work against the larger players on teams of the SEC.
Understand now?
realistic fan
November 27th, 2012
1:14 pm
I actually hope Tech does go to a bowl game. I want to see how many fans actually travel to watch that junk. The Vegas over/under on the Sun Bowl attendance by Tech is 300.
The New ACC
November 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
Here is the real NCAA issue that does impact any conference with a championship game….
The NCAA rule is that no team with below a 0.500 record can go to a bowl. If a team wins a division in any conference with a championship game has a 0.500, they risk going below 0.500 by possibly losing in the championship game – in other words, that team is penalized for winning their division and playing in the championship game.
If that same team doesn’t go to the championship game, then they are at 0.500 and per the NCAA rules can go to a bowl game just fine.
So – should the NCAA penalize a team for winning their division and going to the conference championship game? THAT is the real issue.
And, it is not a conference specific question because ANY conference with a championship game is at risk for this.
ATLien
November 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
So much for all the Tech bloggers and their “we’re smarter than you” excuses for why their football program stinks. Supposed technical school with alleged math wizards everywhere, and they can’t figure out simple rules based on simple math. You have to be .500 to go to a bowl silly Jackets. Noone cares that half your conference is ineligible and you’re playing in a pathetic conference championship game.
Dr. Peeper
November 27th, 2012
1:50 pm
If 6-5 N.C. State can beat FSU, maybe 6-6 GT can pull the upset.
Bull
November 27th, 2012
1:54 pm
Ive been a Tech fan all of my 82 yrs and obviously Im almost spent myself but I never thought I woul say this but I am hanging up my gold and black Ive been through tough lean years and short spurts of glory but the whole school has changed no tradition no pride I saw no pride in that Georgia game. The coach sayin his players did not give it their all and he was right, but for a Tech Georgia Game my goodness forget talent what about heart. I ve seen this in other sports at Tech lately, I only pray someone will step up revitalize the program or close it down better not to have a team than to be digraced I m not talking about winning just knowing your team gave it their all. maybe before my up coming firt nap please!
ATLien
November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
Big Dawg is right. Academics have nothing to do with Tech’s football problems. As Brad points out, Tech doesn’t graduate many athletes anyways, so academics isn’t some shining beacon of excellence at the 38th ranked academic school. It has everything to do with the coaching and the gimmick offense being ran. Chan Gailey, who was the best coach Tech could hope for, had real live football studs at Tech. Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas as examples could have played anywhere in the country. Including places like UGA, Bama and LSU. Don’t see any of those types of athletes around these days.
BLACK BEE
November 27th, 2012
2:03 pm
I don’t know and have mixed feelings. For one they did it last year for UCLA but the flip side is GT is only playing in the ACC Championship because a bad Miami team declined, how much sympathy does CPJ want?
Old with a Stinger
November 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
After our team couldn’t be motivated to put out the effort against our blood rivals, we should not have accepted the opportunity to back into the Championship game. As for a bowl game, why would any bowl expect our best effort a month from now. Finally, I don’t want to see either ND or Alabama win the National Championship. In any event, all the dwag bloggers on this site can go f*ck yourselves.
damngooddawg!
November 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
If you guys want to continue to play big boy football, LOOSE THE “OUR ACADEMIC STANDARDS ARE HIGHER THAN ANYONE ELSES” mantra. I’ve seen those “academic standouts” in interviews and I ain’t buyin’ it.
damngooddawg!
November 27th, 2012
3:16 pm
Old with a Stinger, are we cross? Because I think you would find that what you request is anatomically impossible. Not that I’ve ever tried it. Maybe you have, and successfully. Anyway you are obviously way over the top. It’s just football, dilbert.
Bad Dawg
November 27th, 2012
3:40 pm
Tech had it’s bowl game and Ga wupped ‘em. If Tech gets a wavier at 6-7 ;that means every year the could go to a bowl game . For Tech fans BB season couldn’t have gotten here any faster.
fan
November 27th, 2012
3:54 pm
THese techie knotheads sneaked in to the ACC Championship Game and now they think they deserve a bowl…what a joke.THere are several high school teams in the state of Georgia that could beat tech, Georgia Southern would kill them. The techies are one haughty bunch of losers.
Georgia Tee
November 27th, 2012
4:06 pm
Think Paul Johnson might be the Dawgs all time favorite coach? Reggie has to be their all time favorite QB….maybe a Tech player is the Dawgs favorite player at every position.
bryan
November 27th, 2012
4:07 pm
I hope they won’t grant the waiver so at least our record will be 6-7 and not 6-8 with another consecutive embarrassing bowl loss to Johnson’s credit. With the way they have played this year they don’t need to be in a bowl let alone the division championship.
John G.
November 27th, 2012
4:08 pm
Would not forfeiting the ACC championship, declining an invitation to a toilet bowl and suffering another defeat, and ending this ugly season right now be a better course. A faithful but realistic and frustrated alum!
BuzzE
November 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
6-7? stay home–quit embarrassing the school with another dreadful performance. they would lose to lowly kent state.
John G.
November 27th, 2012
4:15 pm
Would not a more noble (and realistic) thing for Tech to do be to forfeit FSU game, decline invitation to another mediocre bowl (and defeat), and simply call this terribly disappointing season to an end. CPJ has a lot of work to do to survive. Asking for a waiver is humiliating, but …. money focused! Seems it should be more about quality, pride and tradition.
Atomic Dog
November 27th, 2012
4:18 pm
Tech deserves a bowl game. I am a UGA guy but if sorry Miami had not declined….tech would be 6 6
and qualified. If the NCAA allowed UCLA…then Tech deserves the same. Heck they might beat FSU.
GT Joe
November 27th, 2012
4:21 pm
Georgia Tee: Would you say Tevin Washington is a close runner up to Reggie as UGA’s favorite QB?
Rick
November 27th, 2012
4:22 pm
As a former Tech student, I’d rather they stay home if saddled with a losing record. It is tough enough already to be seen in public with Tech colors during football season.
Tech Fan
November 27th, 2012
4:24 pm
When players won’t give they’re best effort to win, it’s simply because they don’t have the level of respect for the game or their leaders (coaches/the program). As much as I love a winner, “CPJ” doesn’t get the best out of those kids. With all due respect, it seems as though his schemes and coaching style is a bit…. how do you say…out dated. Tech we have to realize that it is 2012!!! The age of forcing guys to run into brick walls with no explanation others than “becuase I said so” is over!!! Knowledge about anything is now one click away. The wing-t in DIV-1 football…. really??? How long did you all think this was gonna work at this level of football? Now lets think, how many football players with the dream of playing in the NFL are gonna be attracted to a system that is dying out EVEN ON THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL?!? Remember, the Orange Bowl a couple of years ago was played with the athletes brought in to play a pro style offense. In other words GAILEY ATTRACTED AND BROUGHT IN BETTER FOOTBALL PLAYERS! No I’m not at every practice and hell this is the first year I didn’t see every single play, but until Tech realizes that in order to compete with the best programs in the country you have to be an agile program. For some reason it seems as though Tech is always behind the top progams in the country. The indoor facility isn’t even a year old yet!!! (If so, barely LOL!) Did you see the attempt at the new uniforms this year??? Believe it or not but that’s what 17,18,19 yr old kids take into consideration when it come to which school they would like to attend. I don’t want to go to the extent of saying that Tech really doesn’t want the football program to compete with the top programs of college football, but do you all have any other explanation as to why a technical institute in the heart of DOWNTOWN ATLANTA is always a step behind when it comes to attracting the best athletes, accomidating the athletes and fans they have, and lastly (keep in mind I’m a southern gentleman and I’m all about tradition) HOW LONG BEFORE WE GET A NEW DANG-ON STADIUM??!?!?!? It just seems Tech is stuck in the late 80’s early 90’s and I really feel bad for those players. No way any team with the location Tech has shouldn’t be getting some if not most of the best players in the southeast let alone in Georgia. Just observe how many NFL players make Atlanta their home after college… c’mon Tech. Catch up!!!
killerj
November 27th, 2012
4:49 pm
Love It!,Tech wins against FSU goes to a BCS game,Georgia loses against the Jelly people and does not,”COME ON RAMBLIN WRECK MAKE MY YEAR”! 4 TO 1 BABY!
DawgNole
November 27th, 2012
5:08 pm
big daddy
November 27th, 2012
9:16 am
The whole bowl structure sucks. All bowl games should have a min. of 7 wins to qualify, not 6 as the present system is. I am a Tech fan but the whole picture is out of kilter. With all of the bowls I am sure you could find enough teams that have won 7 games to qualify.
___________________
Agreed. We had this discussion with respect to Tech a week or so ago on Ken’s blog. My contention was what bowl would want to select any losing team (not just Tech) as one of its participants? The argument was that a bowl is contractually obligated to select the ACCCG loser–regardless of record. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.
cpj
November 27th, 2012
6:05 pm
How embarassing.
DAMN GOOD JACKETS
November 27th, 2012
6:23 pm
DAMN GOOD INTERIM ATHLETIC DEPT…WE’RE GOING TO THE ORANGE BOWL….HAHA..NICE
bill
November 27th, 2012
6:46 pm
Tech playing in a Bowl is not about if they deserve it. At 6-7, they don’t. But there are circumstances here. If Miami didn’t pull itself from Bowl elgibilty, Tech would be going at 6-6. NCAA knows this with USC-UCLA precedent last year.Remember, this is about the kids getting a chance to play for a Bowl. They earned it within a terrible watered down system.
JUST hope CPJ has the kids ready. His bowl record has been a disgrace.Losing to Utah the way they did last year was inexcusable.Hope when all things get evaluated, Tech losing to FSU doesn’t negate the awful job the coaching staff has done. At least CPJ was smarter than Chan…he at least played Lee. Reggie Ball is to Chan Gailey as Tev Washington is to CPJ.
I WANT to see Lee play in a bowl game. Kid gives this program hope.
BTW, sincerely….hope UGA beats Alabama. Will only help Tech in the long run.Will make them recruit better or we will have a new coaching staff soon.Right now, it’s awful and don’t think CPJ gets how bad this is….he’s as stubborn as a man named Reid from Philly.
tampahokie
November 27th, 2012
8:26 pm
No waiver. Period. If you don’t want to be 6 – 7 GT before your bowl, you should have opt-ed out of the ACC massacre.
No dogs please
November 27th, 2012
9:20 pm
Why are there imbecilic dog fans on the Tech blog?
Stay on your on blog!
We’re not interested in what you doofus dogs have to say!
Imbeciles! Go back to you Lawn Care majors!
No dogs please
November 27th, 2012
9:25 pm
We need the bowl to have the additional practice time.
Lord knows we need it!
No worries, CPJ will be gone after next year’s loss to ugaly.
I like CPJ, but he’s to stubborn to be a BCS level coach.
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November 27th, 2012
9:48 pm
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Bill from Dacusville
November 27th, 2012
9:57 pm
Never did I think that the once proud program ran by Ross, Dodd, Heisman,et al would have to beg for a bowl—Hell, the Bowls used to beg Dodd to come and play—–Fire Pitiful Paul, or join the Southern Conference and come up here and play Furman!!
Centennial Rematch
November 27th, 2012
10:26 pm
Bowl Game? I’d be worried about rumblings from around Nashville that Cumberland is itching for a rematch of that 10/7/1916 222-0 barnburner on Friday night, 10/7/2016. GT’s inability to stay on field with Middle Tennessee State this year reportedly has various Cumberland groups saying “If MTSU can do it, why not….”
Old Dog
November 28th, 2012
6:44 am
Hey jacket attack……42-10….10 out of 11….there’s a comparison you can write down as FACT!
Fair n Balanced
November 28th, 2012
7:31 am
Awkward!
Fair n Balanced
November 28th, 2012
7:38 am
Really very awkward!
Dawgfan
November 28th, 2012
12:58 pm
Even this Dawg fan sees the issue here: Tech was a miserable 2-4, and rallied to finish 6-6. Not good, but better than anyone expected in mid-October.
Bowls used to be important, but with 35 of them now they are nothing but a reward trip for a season’s hard work for a majority of D1-A programs. Plus the extra few weeks of practice help too. At 6-6, the Tech kids earned a bowl trip.
Tech’s in the ACCCG because Miami and UNC cheated. That part isn’t Tech’s fault. So why should they be punished if they lose to F$U?
- Go Dwags!
Brian H.
November 28th, 2012
2:21 pm
I’ve been a Clemson fan all my life, and most seasons I defend the ACC and it’s perception of being all-inclusively weak as a conference. Sure, there are some VERY weak teams, but I’ve never really agreed with the general public about the weakness of the conference… until this year. There is no room for argument this year…the ACC sucks. What a TERRIBLE year. I cannot believe… repeat, cannot believe that Georgia Tech came out on top to play for the ACC title. Clemson had little problems with that team. I’ve watched lots of their games, and I’m telling you… the ACC better hope Ga. Tech doesn’t pull off the FSU upset (which they won’t…but stranger things have happened), because the conference doesn’t need another disaster loss in the Orange Bowl after the way my team blew it last year. Anyhow, I usually defend the conference from detractors when I can, but this year… there is no room for argument. FSU and Clemson are head and shoulders above the rest of the conference, but both teams had only ONE big-stage test against good teams (FSU – Florida, and Clemson – USC), and they both performed poorly and lost. It’s not a good year for the ACC, and for the first time, I agree wholeheartedly with the detractors this season. Good god…
rich
November 28th, 2012
4:52 pm
Give us a break CPJ and show some class…..after FSU wins, decline any bowl invitation. No 6-7 team deserves a bowl
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November 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
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cewbee
November 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
6-6, 6-7 Schrodinger’s Cat?