After UGA disaster, Tech tries to rebound vs. FSU

Messin with da Sasquatch

November 25th, 2012
8:24 pm

Nole will be angry. Losin to the Gators when FSU is the better team. Look out Jackets…

Ramblinwreck83

November 25th, 2012
8:38 pm

I sure hope they can make this one a decent game. Gotta take a long look at the whole team as well as the coaching staff after this season.

Tech Guy

November 25th, 2012
8:42 pm

Not going to Charlotte.

Jacket Time

November 25th, 2012
8:44 pm

So we didn’t get our fisrt miracle. Any chance for a for this one to work out?

bob smith

November 25th, 2012
8:44 pm

“I had hoped our team would show some improvement this season,” Jacobs said. “Unfortunately it didn’t. The competition in our league is fierce. I decided we could not risk falling further behind by waiting for another year and hoping for improvement.”

That’s the quote from the Auburn AD in his decision to fire Chizek……….How nice would it be to have an AD with a spine at Tech that would say the same in realizing that with each year with CPJ we are falling further and further behind! Enough already!!!

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Tech has no AD

November 25th, 2012
9:02 pm

Bob,

I know it is a pitiful situation at the Flats. Tech does not even have an AD. He drove 120 miles up the road to join forces with the enemy. You just cannot make this stuff up. This has be an all-time low for GT football.

Hey Tech fans, what’s the good word?? LMAO!!

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
9:03 pm

@ bob smith..please tell me who we will hire if we fire CPJ..look at the canidates wehn CPJ was hired and look at where they are now

Arkansas
Auburn
Tennessee
Boston Colleg
Purdue
Colorado
Oregon (if CK takes a pro job)
NC State

all of these schools are looking for jobs..so please tell me who we will hire since you think we need to fire CPJ

collegeballfan

November 25th, 2012
9:08 pm

Ramblinwreck83 at 8:38 has a point. It may be time to take a hard look at the entire defensive staff. If it is just the quality of the players then the staff can only be blamed for recruiting, not coaching. But the HC sets the tone with recruiting.

There is a long way from the quality of the players UGA has accumulated and what GT has on hand.

Good players make good coaches.

Tech Fan Since 1950

November 25th, 2012
9:08 pm

Life is short and sometimes embarrassing, but when opportunities knock at the door after a long and difficult season it is time to seize the moment Jackets and Jacket fans. All we can ask our guys to do now is to concentrate and work hard this week and play their best. Circumstances state that an ACC Championship trophy is available as well as an interesting trip to the Orange Bowl. There are plenty of college football players across the country tonight who wish they could still have such an opportunity. If the Good Lord is willing, this old Yellow Jacket is planning to be in Charlotte on a Saturday night. We may be banged up Rambling Wrecks tonight, but we are still rambling,

GT Fan

November 25th, 2012
9:15 pm

Four teams have made BCS bowls with four losses, including the Seminoles twice. The Orange Bowl has never taken a team with more than four defeats.
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So, all week and until the clock reads 00:00 in Charolette on Sat., the Orange Bowl Officials will ALL be FSU fans. IF, and that’s a HUGE if, GT wins on Sat., how much of a joke will it be for the team, coaches, school officials, etc. to listen to the Orange Bowl Official’s “politicing” how glad they are to have GT in their Bowl.

BTW …. did any, REALISTIC, GT fan really think the Jackets were going to beat UGA? Haven’t we all seen how bad the D is this season. If GT had been any closer than the 13.5 pt line, it would’ve been a UGA failure.

GT’s gotta get someone who can coach DEFENSE.

docsbro

November 25th, 2012
9:19 pm

@1950 That is the attitude. You can only play the game in front of you. Worry about the other stuff when that time comes. I’ll be watching and hoping for good things. Seize the day, seize the moment.

bob smith

November 25th, 2012
9:24 pm

There are plenty of young coaches and coordinators available. There are plenty of candidates that know that there are 4 facets of the game. Offense, defense, special teams and recruiting. Heck, you can even throw strength and conditioning in there. CPJ has his stubborn focus on one aspect, his offense. So just because there are no marquee names out there we just sit through and suffer another season of D2 football and get excited about another 2 star studed recuiting class. Even the Middle TN defeat was not a fluke. We were man handled just like yesterday. You can be happy with playing D2 football, but I’m not. He now has all his players and this was the team he was excited about???? We are D2

Frosted Orange

November 25th, 2012
9:34 pm

Seize the Seminoles.

GT Fan

November 25th, 2012
9:34 pm

collegeballfan:
good players make good coaches? Wrong!

Auburn has more talent/depth than GT. Chizk … FIRED.
What Petrino did with Ark…the Hogs have more talent/depth than GT. John L Smith … fired
Tennessee same story …. Dooly….Fired.
UK has comparable talent to GT …. Joker Phillips…..fired

DR

November 25th, 2012
9:36 pm

It ain’t the system. Tech will move the ball, just as the did all season and just as they’ve done in Paul Johnson’s tenure. The only time they don’t score is when they turn it over or miss a kick. We don’t win time of possesion just because the offense is good. It is much in part due to the other team scoring in 5 plays or less. CPJ’s system, with Gailey’s juniors and seniors, went 20-7, flipped the rivalry, were ranked, and went to a BCS game and New Year’s Eve Bowl. Vad Lee will be a force, but defense wins championships. Don’t believe me ? Scoring defense under CPJ: 20, 23, 26, 25, 31.

Jacket Attack

November 25th, 2012
9:37 pm

@ bob smith you must be joking or at least I hope you are! I think we got a real shot in Charlotte, I for one will be headed up I85 who else is going?

Rooty Tooty

November 25th, 2012
9:39 pm

Every idiot who writes into this blog, myself included, knows the playing field is not equal between UGA and GT. It never will be. Anyone that can crawl on campus at UGA is elegible to play. Not every body wants to be an engineer or study management. So lets get this problem out of the way. UGA will always recruite better because of the nature of the beast.

Jacket Attack

November 25th, 2012
9:42 pm

Hey were in the ACC championship! Don’t matter how we got there were there. This is not a far drive from dear old Atlanta so lets make bank of america like we do bobby dodd and pack the house and cheer our jackets to victory!

Enochs

November 25th, 2012
9:49 pm

I don’t like PJ’s comments after this disaster Sat. We are not in the same class as UGA in the world of
college football…can we just get UGA’s defensive rejects? Perhaps a new slate from top to bottom is in order. Where is George O’Leary?

Willy E.

November 25th, 2012
9:50 pm

Our team does not show up for noon games. We’ll be fine against FSU since the game is at 8 PM.

TechBoy

November 25th, 2012
9:53 pm

It’s basketball season and we just took down a decent St Mary’s team. Where is the love for CBG and what he is building? As low a point as we have hit in Football, we are likely top ten in BB next year. That’s exciting.

TEXAS DAWG

November 25th, 2012
10:07 pm

Rooty Tooty,
While I disagree with your asumption that Tech is at a disadvantage in recruiting (Tech has the lowest graduation rate in the ACC and lower that UGA) lets go with your line of thinking. While I am a DAWG through and through I grew up a Tech fan and still pull for them when they are not playing UGA. CPJ was great at GSU and Navy but no matter how good your offense is, you still have to play defense and it seems he does not care about that. As far as recruiting, if Tech is at such a disadvantage how do you explain the rise of Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern and the continued success of Stanford? Each of these schools is every bit the “elite” school that you imagine GT to be. Just like UGA, many of the athletes (look at your basketball program) would not be allowed into EITHER (or any) school if not for their abilites on the football field or basketball court. That is what college athletics have become for ALL schools. If you doubt my statistics look it up at this NCAA web site http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/research/graduation+rates. The most recent years reported were 2005 since schools have several years after the students leave to finalize their education. The graduation rate for football GT-55% UGA- 69% Basketball GT-18% UGA-50%. I think you need to do a little research and soul searching before you start claiming that GT is somehow above it all. Being delusional does not fix the problem. GT can compete with the other schools if CPJ would actually learn that there is another side to the game other than offense. I would love to see the day that UGA and GT both come into the game in the top 10 and have the game mean something again other than to have a lousy team spoil a good teams season.

Biff Pocoroba

November 25th, 2012
10:12 pm

There are about 100 people left that think that PJ can win with his “recruiting” and silly offense that he hasn’t been able to teach a QB how to run in six years. the ony reason they support him is they enjoy having a lot of room to move in the stadium now that most of us have quit buying tickets. I went to one game this year and have never been to less than five since the Bill Lewis days. This is no fun to watch anymore with undersized running backs and linebackers trying to compete against teams outside our weak division. Just go out and get a young up and coming coach and give him a chance instead of wasting our team with an old stubborn coach who will naver adjust or put together a decent staff that can compete against real teams.How Bohannon still has a job after the last 3 years of Reggie Ball II, I don’t know. The announcers were shocked that he was in the game when we needed to pass with his weak arm.

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
10:12 pm

@ bob smith..someone might listen to you if you stated facts..I find it funny you don’t think CPJ cares about defense or special teams..just because they are bad doesn’t mean he doesn’t care..as mad as you are about the performance I promise you he is posses 10 times worst..you still didn’t name a single coach that is out there..you just said they were some..give me a name..go back and look at the final 6 coaches on the list when CPJ was hired and see where they are now..only 1 is any good at all..give me a name

Tony

November 25th, 2012
10:15 pm

Tech has done a pretty good job moving the ball against most teams, including Georgia. They just can’t stop anybody and that has been a major problem for the last twenty years. They need a major upgrade on the defensive side and until it can recruit better athletes it will be an ongoing problem. WE are giving good q-backs way too much time to throw the ball and that’s one reason that we are giving up a ton of yards and points. Good luck on Saturday guys!!

billyBobjacket

November 25th, 2012
10:23 pm

Godhigh still wants to know who said what to Ogletree to p!$$ him off. That play is a perfect symbol for CPJs recruits vs. UGAs and just about all the other decent football programs. Idiots like George Stein notwithstanding, haven’t we seen enough?

billyBobjacket

November 25th, 2012
10:26 pm

TechBoy: Top ten in the ACC?

Techie

November 25th, 2012
10:26 pm

Bobby Petrino !

11 of 12 supersized

November 25th, 2012
10:27 pm

GT TN good luck against FSU and enjoy championship Saturday because it is a lot more fun with a horse in the race. Hope u guys play well.

Only comment I will say about our game is that all the comparisons about who we played and our D showing holes were maybe correct on paper but despite your yards and time of possession we shut you down where it matters and that is the end zone. I was at the game and there was never a doubt we were so much better and were going to win big.

jabster

November 25th, 2012
10:43 pm

Agribusiness
Sport Management
Criminal Justice
Health Promotion
Recreation & Leisure Studies
Housing
Family Finance Planning
Child & Family Development
Social Studies Education
Exercise & Sport Science
Consumer Economics (fka Home Ec)

Do you know what this list is? A list of several common majors of UGA football players, courtesy of the UGA Media Guide.

Folks, we do a crappy job of K-12 education, and STEM education in particular, in this country. And we somehow think folks interested in the above topics will go to Tech? Or have a sufficient academic foundation to get in? And stay in?

I'm Glad, I'm Glad, I'm Glad

November 25th, 2012
10:57 pm

@texas-ahole dwag . when GT offers a major in theory of basket weaving or animal husbandry you can make that comment, otherwise check out the national college rankings as regards whose diploma is worth more.

The Sandman

November 25th, 2012
11:08 pm

Great comments, Texas Dawg. Fantastic research.

BLACK BEE

November 25th, 2012
11:10 pm

Decisions The next 3 months will be the most important decisions made this century for GT! Who wil be the next AD (I hope it is not someone CPJ can bully or someone who settles for excuse and mediority} With all the new SEC Coaching changes, who will be the next DC, Rec. Coor. and if or if CPJ will try and flip recruits from those schools or try and act holier then thou and say they aren’t going to recruit the.m while the rest of the country will. And last but not least if CPJ will be more flexible with the bpassing game. We will see?????

BLACK BEE

November 25th, 2012
11:10 pm

Decisions The next 3 months will be the most important decisions made this century for GT! Who wil be the next AD (I hope it is not someone CPJ can bully or someone who settles for excuse and mediority} With all the new SEC Coaching changes, who will be the next DC, Rec. Coor. and if or if CPJ will try and flip recruits from those schools or try and act holier then thou and say they aren’t going to recruit the.m while the rest of the country will. And last but not least if CPJ will be more flexible with the bpassing game. We will see?????

Ga Tech Old Timer

November 25th, 2012
11:14 pm

Rooty Tooty – We never had that problem when Dodd or Ross was coaching or even when O’Leary was here. The courses haven’t changed over the years – but three things have. Coaches, players and schemes – offensive, defensive and special teams. Breaking this down, the offensive scheme is the only thing worthy of praise at the present time. That leaves the coaches, players and all other schemes. I’d hazzard a guess that of the teams Tech has lost to this year alone, few if any – with the exception of UGA – have a higher “star” average than Tech in terms of the talent they field. They are all about average or maybe a little above. This means that Tech – while not recruiting on the level of the top 10 teams – isn’t that far off from the majority of non-elite schools when considering the players impact on the game. Now, obviously when the coach is hired – he wants to install his own schemes and hopes that the current players can pick it up while he’s recruiting new players who can. Now stay with me here – At this point (5 years in) Tech fields about average players – some better / some worse. The offensive scheme is installed and most of the time runs well. However, the head coach who is responsible for all the other coaches – has up until now – for the most part brushed them off as having secondary importance to his offense. That is until all this blew up in his face this year. At this point, he has no control over his team as evidenced by poor play in over half the games played this year – including the one game (UGA)that means the most to those who give money as season ticket holders and write big checks to the athletic department. It’s one thing to have better players (on paper) lined up across from you but entirely another to play without heart and determination and intensity. To play as if it was a sandlot pick up game – to play as if the outcome was a foregone conclusion. That is/was inexcusable and being prepared to play falls not only on the players themselves but also on the coaches as well. I have preached for years that physchology plays a major part in athletic preparation as well on the sideline – whether it’s swimming, volleyball, basketball or football. Different coaches use different methods – however, our coach believes that it’s solely on the player to “get up” for the game and “stay up” during the game. This is something that goes beyond the “X’s” and “O’s”. Every kid comes in wanting to win and believing that they can under the current coach / system. Poor communications and placing blame on those who don’t have a “voice” has lead to our current state. When the coach decides to go for a first down on fourth and long at mid-field early in the game when the team has yet to establish offensive superiority or tries to run a QB sneak on the goal line when the defensive line has held time after time – is just flat stupid and negatively affects the players – when percentages point out that there was no way it was going to work. Now the players are down and dejected – tell me whose fault that is. Coach says – “Not my fault – it’s the players – they didn’t block or run they way they had been coached”. He never acknowledges that because he rarely ever calls any other play in certain situatons – every team that has scouted Tech knows exactly what Tech will run and stuffs it.
The point of all this is to say – stop bad mouthing the players, stop saying we don’t get quality players and stop pointing to the fact that Tech doesn’t offer as many degrees as UGA or some other school. Put the focus and blame where it lies – on the coaches.
One further statement: UGA had multiple recruits in the house to watch Tech blow up. How many recruits undecided or considering Tech do you think were impressed with our performance Saturday?? When we win on a consistant basis – THEN we will start drawing the elite athlete. Until then – learn to be happy living with our present situation! When we finally have coaches who recognize the importance that physchology plays in preparing the athlete for competition – and coaches and players alike – learning what it takes to have a winning additude then we’ll turn this around. Until then – someone else can sit in my spot at Grant field and pay to watch the status quo for years to come.

TEXAS DAWG

November 25th, 2012
11:21 pm

I’m Glad,
I detect some anger management issues, but facts are facts. Personal attacks are for children, I was trying to have an ADULT discussion. I would like to see GT succeed as long as they loose to UGA. While we are on management, seems the VAST majority of GT players major in this. This can not be a coinincidence. LISTEN CAREFULLY-ALL schools have their easy majors for their “student athletes”, I repeat ALL SCHOOLS, otherwise football and basketball would be real boring.Look at any schools media guide and you will find a major that is very popular (and easy) with a large percentage of that schools players. Notre Dame has had a Holier than though attitude but don’t forget they were on probation with booster problems. GT lost an ACC title due to NCAA problems so don’t get all sefl righteous. The problem with GT is they do not play defense plain and simple. They move the ball and score (other than yesterday) but they never can stop anybody. Paul Johson had this same problem ate GSU, they just outscored everybody at that level. Lets stick to a discussion of facts like adults, not personal attacks like little kids. Buy the way, animal husbandry is the practice of genetics which is actually a pretty tough major, it includes theoretical research on molecular genetics, cytogenetics, experimental embryology and biotechnology, as well as the genetic background to the physiology of stress and animal etiology. If you have ever had to sit through a biology class, you would realize this is no “student athlete” devised major.. Basket weaving, I can’t seem to find in any schools course catalog.

Buzz 2011

November 25th, 2012
11:22 pm

@Rooty Tooty…The real difference in GT and Thuga U. is the fact that UGA
players spell just like you…”Recruite” that when you consider UGA.recruits..

Jacketnation Deflation

November 25th, 2012
11:34 pm

Our offense sputters against good teams. Our defense STINKS no matter who we play. The level of talent on the flats is 82cd in the nation. The recruiting is sorry. Scholarships are offered to players that no other MAJOR football school wants. Why does Johnson “”settle” for lesser athletes? If we are going to recruit like Troy, Murray State, and UAB, then we need to drop out of the ACC and not try to play Div-1 football any longer. Florida State will beat us like a red headed step child. Bowl game? Bowl game? No lets sit of the front porch this year and think about the season that wasn’t.

GT-UT

November 25th, 2012
11:39 pm

I think Vad running the O next year will turn things around and make CPJ look like a genius. I’m in for the next two years. Lets rally the Jackets!!

Rick James

November 25th, 2012
11:57 pm

This is not a team deserving a bowl game much less a championship game.Cut your losses and stay home.I dont see a Tech victory over Georgia for at least the next four or five years.The margins of victory are even increasing every year since 2008.Maybe Conference USA would be a good option for Tech.

Offense IS the problem

November 26th, 2012
12:02 am

Tech plays an offense that allows hardly any margin of error. It is one reason Tech almost always has huge O stats but not always the points to show for it. One 5-yd penalty on a 3rd or 4th down play and it dramatically changes the probabilities of another first down. Having to drive 70 or 80 yards on the ground, and expecting the QB to make the right decision time after time, not to mention the inevitable mishandled pitch, hand-off or blown assignment is more than can be expected in every game.

So the time of possession and offensive yardage are not as impressive as being able to gain chunks of yardage and drive the filed in a minute or two when necessary.

Then, the scheme hurts recruiting because any kid (almost) that can play on the next level is not going to go to Tech and play offense. Kids that play D want to play for a winner so its circular.

Mike S.

November 26th, 2012
12:25 am

@offense – you are correct. Its a tremendously bad thing to be racking up yardage with not much points to show for it. Its the hallmark of many failed coaching staffs. I’ve also long maintained that Tech’s offense means you cant recruit the type of players that can possibly simulate the level of talent the defense will play when facing UGA, Clemson, and FSU. How in the world does Tech prepare properly for the accuracy of Aaron Murray, the power of Todd Gurley, or that offensive line of UGA? To think you can line up any scout team to prepare a defense for these guys is absurd.

1 4 GT

November 26th, 2012
12:44 am

I just can’t sit here & be quiet about this fallacy any longer. Everyone that keeps talking about college kids going pro. This is not verbatim, but it is close. From an interview with Rich McKay (president of the Falcons) on 680am or 790am (I don’t recall which)….!.25 million high school kids play football in America each year….approximately 65,000 play at the college level somewhere in America each year….approximately 250 kids get to try to play football at the NFL level in America each year. 250 out of 65,000 is a pretty small % number. That’s just 3 complete college scholarship player teams minus 5 players….3 x 85 = 255 – 5 = 250. And there are 124 (?) FBS teams + all the other divisions….maybe as many as 500 (or many more for all I know) colleges with football teams. Pro football is nothing but a fanasty for the vast majority & anybody telling these kids different is flat out lieing to them and I think a lot of y’all must be lieing to yourselves.

TEXAS DAWG

November 26th, 2012
12:57 am

@1 4 GT
Very true, but to each of these kids, it is like playing the lottery. They know somebody is going to win the big prize, and for many of them they have been told how special they are from the time they started playing. They forget that every other kids was told the same thing. Even if you are the greatest ever, you are only one severe injury away from ending it. Marcus Latimore will be very lucky if he ever returns to his previous level, and he was one of the best in a long time. The problem is that the money is so great in pro sports these days that they are blinded to the reality that their odds of making if are very slim, according to your numbers only .38% make it. Thats some pretty long odds but sadly, that is what college sports has become. A lot of these players have come from very disadvantaged backgrounds, and they see this as their only way out. Few of them know anyone who has made it with their brains and not their athletic ability and unfortunately most college athletic programs don’t do much to change this.

WnE

November 26th, 2012
1:27 am

re:
jabster

November 25th, 2012
10:43 pm

Agribusiness
Sport Management
Criminal Justice
Health Promotion
Recreation & Leisure Studies
Housing
Family Finance Planning
Child & Family Development
Social Studies Education
Exercise & Sport Science
Consumer Economics (fka Home Ec)

Do you know what this list is? A list of several common majors of UGA football players, courtesy of the UGA Media Guide.

Folks, we do a crappy job of K-12 education, and STEM education in particular, in this country. And we somehow think folks interested in the above topics will go to Tech? Or have a sufficient academic foundation to get in? And stay in?
____________________

ND 12-0

Stanford 10-2

Northwestern 9-3

Vandy 8-4

Please stop making crappy Academics excuses.

TECHIE

November 26th, 2012
2:56 am

JABSTER——thank you !!!!!!!!!!

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TECHIE

November 26th, 2012
3:18 am

play a solid game, an inspired game, a hungry game and we can beat FSU, you saw FLA play Sat.—-i’m not blind and i am pulling for Tech regardless of how we got there.
and more than ever, THWFGeorgy !!!!!!

Jacketnation Deflation

November 26th, 2012
4:45 am

Tech recruits good Athletes in Baseball and Basketball. Yes, there are a lot more positions to fill on a football team and Tech is an academic school. But so is Notre Dame. Why do we no longer have the pool of talent like we did under Bobby Ross or George O’Leary? SORRY RECRUITING! We have had a weak defense every since Johnson has been here. And this triple option offense would be unstoppable IF WE HAD 11 four-star athletes on the field.

aw

November 26th, 2012
6:05 am

tech needs a d coach….alll good and great teams major on defence…pj is a good coach, he needs to really concentrate on hiring a totally new defensive crew, that are young, agressive, and can recruit…..he needs his hands all over the D…..pj cares …..he is intence….he hates to lose…gts major under his watch has been offence….he thought he could trust big al to take the defence off his hands, but he made a terrible mistake….HE WON’T MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN….

Mama says

November 26th, 2012
6:19 am

The offense is as unstoppable as any other style of offense and whoever thinks Tech has had a defense at any time in the last 12 years simply hasn’t paid attention.

The black watch was the last time Tech could brag about its defense and it went 6-4 in its first year with them

Crazy Robert

November 26th, 2012
6:35 am

I would like to be one of the first to congratulate the UGA football team for proving yet again that losers can win in college athletics.

BigTimeTECHFan

November 26th, 2012
6:49 am

Tech will be better next year

Born2Buzz

November 26th, 2012
7:06 am

When will the Head Coach be held responsible for the entire program? That means defense, special teams, and recruiting, not just the offense.

NoCharge

November 26th, 2012
7:12 am

Majority of GT players wouldn’t give Johnson air if he was in a jug …. He’s perceived as a pompous, arrogant, pencil-legged jerk. If he calls a play and it works …. it’s all his doing. If it fails …. it’s 100% the players fault.

yellowfever

November 26th, 2012
7:51 am

Tech has no AD, Yes times are bad right now but not what I would call an all time low. That would probably have been around 1979 to 1983 when I think Tech won a total of about 6-7 games and UGA was winning NC and finishing in the top 5 the other years.

yellowfever

November 26th, 2012
7:53 am

Born Buzz, you get it, so many on here don’t

TechLB

November 26th, 2012
7:58 am

@Texas Dawg – You’re wrong bud, sorry you don’t like to admit that GT is a tougher academic environment – and there are also fewer degree choices. Some of the other tough schools you call out have liberal arts degrees and that can be an easier academic path. At Tech, It’s called Math and you have to pass advanced classes of it at Georgia Tech. If you really want to have an adult discussion rather than spout your incorrect personal bias, You need to do more research before you continue that tired line that ALL schools have crib classes for athletes. ALL schools have some classes that are easier than others available for all students. Most have Crib DEGREES for athletes, most liberal arts schools do, check out those of your beloved UGA grads.

Try talking to a Georgia Tech Athlete who’s an alum and get your facts straight.

It doesn’t really matter though, it’s not an excuse for mediocre recruiting, player development, coaching and play. Georgia Tech is better than this.

And finally, what does it say about you and others who come here to gloat and demean The Georgia Institute of Technology that it’s not enough for you to win on the field? How pathetic man, have some class and go enjoy your victory with your fellow fans instead of kicking others when they’re down. Just like James Franklin said, that’s low class.

Georgia Tech University

November 26th, 2012
8:15 am

It would be Tech’s second appearance in one of the traditional four major bowl games (Cotton, Orange, Rose, Sugar) since 1967.

nuff said………..

Freddie Blassie

November 26th, 2012
8:19 am

Coach Johnson is staying and if you do not like it we do not need you. Join DRad and his parasites up 85 or take 316 to Athens. Clempson and Georgie is where you belong.

Tech1986

November 26th, 2012
8:23 am

Tech fans, it has become very obvious to me over the last 2 years reading the Tech blogs, that despite the total dominance by UGA over us on the football field, they still worry about us. I could care less what any UGA blogger says about our academics or our classes, and that includes that WNE guy. It appears that all these guys are just upset because they could not get into Tech and still have chip on their shoulders. Great, their playing in the SEC championship, good for them, but we are in the ACC championship, good for us. More practice time, one more time formeto enjoy college football. Again, let’s support our team and student athletes. I may have graduated with a 2.9 in Industrial Managment 25 years ago, but I know I could have been a 4.0 student in Family and consumer economics. Heck, I even could have passed “Coaching 101″, how many points do you get from a 3 point shot, or how many halves are a basketball game. Good luck to our big brothers from Athens, we all know your really care about us. Oh yeah, one more thing, THWG, GO JACKETS!!!

chas_jacket

November 26th, 2012
8:38 am

The recruiting problem isn’t solely academics, its more of the limited, science focused majors offered. Not sure cpj is the answer, but next year with vad at the helm will be telling. As far as the defense, still think we should have let kallon play this year – from what 5150 has said, he is going to be at Tech 4 years regardless so why RS?

I actually think we have a better chance against FSU. They will not have nearly the prep time as ugag and they are not a disciplined defense.

Just Saying

November 26th, 2012
8:47 am

all I want to know is ORWIN SMITH playing? It obviously does matter.

Georgia Tech University

November 26th, 2012
8:48 am

3 star players play like 3 star players. Against 5 star players, they look like, well, 3 star players.

NC Jacket

November 26th, 2012
8:51 am

We need Brian Van Gorder now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Georgia Tech University

November 26th, 2012
8:56 am

3 star coaches coach like 3 star coaches. Against 5 star coaches, they coach like, well, 3 star coaches.

Jon Koncak

November 26th, 2012
9:00 am

Can’t wait to see the overhead shot of the GT-FSU game, what’s the over-under on the attendance of this “Conference Championship Game” given both schools got boat raced by their in-state rivals? Also, notice that both of these fine institutions head coaches like to use the word “retarded”, seems they both need to look at themselves before running their mouthes…..probably could move the game to a local high school in Charlotte to make it look like the stadium is at least half full.

dry dirt road

November 26th, 2012
9:01 am

Re: flu bug, I find this more important than it is looking like. Certainly CPJ could have prepared himself and the team during breast cancer awareness month by getting shots. Perhaps CPJ did this on purpose, and is testing the waters at Tech to see how loyal Tech is to him. Or maybe he did this to get fired so he can follow in Radikovich’s footsteps. NC State has a vacancy now, and CPJ went to App State. But for the team to lose Isaan Cross and then Attaochu, and CPJ himself to an extent, is a blow that didn’t help the team that had comeback against NC and Duke with everybody healthy.

William Casey

November 26th, 2012
9:03 am

The problem at GT is the fundamental nature of the institution rather than coaches per se although CPJ would probably be a better offensive coordinator than head coach. Changing the head coach would be simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. College football is now a “NFL Career” driven game. Until GT broadens its curriculum, it will never attract ENOUGH 5-star athletes (especially on defense) to be competitive with UGA. I never thought I’d say this but, either make the systemic changes necessary OR stop playing UGA. Anyting else is masochism.

dry dirt road

November 26th, 2012
9:07 am

Tech had the white helmets at their disposal against Georgia instead of the gold ones they have lost to Georgia in more than won.

FSU Alum

November 26th, 2012
9:08 am

Face it jackets, you are not that good at football………..

DKG73

November 26th, 2012
9:11 am

The sole issue here is defense. That includes special teams defense. Championships are won by teams with excellent to great defenses. If I remember correctly, David Pollack was either a two or three star recruit. He also seriously considered going to GT. Available recruits for GT on the defensive side is not the problem. GT is a quality school that is attractive to many atheletes. GT has had excellent defenses in the past albeit so far not under Coach Johnson. This is the year that the Coach should have learned that lesson! If so, he will adapt as he is more competitive than hard headed or arrogant. Finally, most of the successful defenses run the 4/3 versus the 3/4. To the point of the contributor regarding the high number of high school players yielding fewer college players which yield only a few hundred pro players each year, the 3/4 is even more limited in quality player access so recruiting is more difficult. Hopefully Coach Johnson will hire an intelligent, fire in the belly, defensive coordinator that specializes in the 4/3 quickly and let him run the show defensively. Then, we will see some solid teams for years to come.

Animal Control

November 26th, 2012
9:11 am

“Gee Shucks, you never know how your team is going to play.” That is a crap answer for a coach who has no clue how to bring a disaster of a program back from the dead. One tip PJ- IT’S CALLED DEFENSE! Start there. I have never actually been embarassed to pull for a team like I am to pull for GT. This is one of the worst seasons I have ever seen coached and I just wish we were lucky enough to have a dang AD who could fire him! All these speeches about playing with focus, and determination, and inspiration are crap and only being said because thats what you say when you have a sesonal success equal to a pee wee football program. EMBARASSING!

Birmingham Jacket

November 26th, 2012
9:13 am

Nothing is going to change for the better until we get out of the ACC and to a better conference (probably The Big 10).

FSU, Clemson and Va. Tech will all make moves to better conferences in the near future, and The ACC will be a left-over Big East.

Our playing FSU and GT playing in the conference championship game after being humiliated by in-state rivals is a testimony to how pitiful the ACC is.

Why would any decent highschool football player want to partake of such a horrible, uncompetitve conference.

If we can get to The Big 10, I believe our recruiting would improve considerably. Until then, get used to many more beat-downs from UGA.

dry dirt road

November 26th, 2012
9:13 am

yellowfever, I don’t get it; I born BD years yj, the one worn on T-Club jacket of Chick Granning when he signed autograph for Annette Funicello of Mickey Mouse Club in Atl

old dog

November 26th, 2012
9:17 am

I pull for the Teckies except against us. It is painfully obvious to even the novice that the talent level leaves much to be desired. You could not bring in buddy Ryan in his prime and do much with that D…..there just ain’t enough talent on that side of the ball. Ya’ll can recruit better than you have been.I know they talk about 2-3 star recruits versus ours, but whoever gave some of ya’lls D players even 2 stars needs to be drawn and quartered, as they missed the mark. Good luck down the road, and remember: bring in some football players!!

Bad Dawg, Bad Dawg

November 26th, 2012
9:31 am

It helps to be hungry and to show it!

Flak Jacket

November 26th, 2012
9:35 am

Run the ball Paul will never have a good defense or special teams,and will never beat good teams consistently at this level and everyone knows it.A 21 point lead is never enough to bag a win as long as this guy has his defense in play.Our kick off teams have been horrible with this coach.Expect more of the same next year.Too bad TECH has to keep him.

Just Saying

November 26th, 2012
9:37 am

its all about cheating and transcript fraud, payouts to families for their sons services, etc….Saban, Richt, Miles and so on…….

Not to mention your star player cannot pass a drug test……so much to be proud of

matt

November 26th, 2012
9:39 am

middle tennessee state

matt

November 26th, 2012
9:40 am

byu

matt

November 26th, 2012
9:40 am

42-10

matt

November 26th, 2012
9:40 am

2005 Emerald Utah 10-38 L
2006 Gator West Virginia 35-38 L
2007 Humanitarian Fresno State 28-40 L
2008 Chick-fil-A LSU 3-38 L
2009 Orange Iowa 14-24 L
2010 Independence Air Force 7-14 L
2011 Sun Utah (OT) 27-30 L

old dog

November 26th, 2012
9:41 am

@Jusy Sayin’
Sour grapes and a crappy attitude will get you nowhere. Shut up and recruit….and quit raising sand about other programs just because you happen to have the LEAST-TALENTED DEFENSE in the history of organized athletics! It’s cry-babies like you that make losers. You ain’t no good, so you find ways to shoot at others. Tech would be better off if bozo’s like you pulled for another team.

TN Jacket

November 26th, 2012
9:49 am

My Issues w Tech Football as it stands:
1. Head coach hates recruiting and avoids it whenever possible- puts us at disadvantage with young enthusiastic coaches
2. Head coach thinks emotion, motivation and team enthusiasm is someone else’s job.
3. Head coach is uninterested in defense and special teams, and blames them every time he can, while not taking ownership for the problems.
Contrast how Johnson approaches each of these with how Saban and Meyer approach these issues. The new AD needs to demand and expect more from the HC. The HC has to at least try in these areas!

MC

November 26th, 2012
9:50 am

BS!….GT TN PJ’s history of having sorry Ds PROVES he doesn’t care. If he cared he would have made the effort to play better D a long time ago. He’s a one trick pony. Always has been always will be. Please stop apologizing for and enabling this pseudo college football coach.

TEXAS DAWG

November 26th, 2012
9:52 am

@Tech LB
As noted above by Technation Deflation, “Why do we no longer have the pool of talent like we did under Bobby Ross or George O’Leary”. What variable has changed. Did the school change or did the coaching staff change. Please explain Stanford, Duke, ND, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt (all on the rise). If they are the elite schools as you perceive GT to be and they are recuruiting the same talent pool, explain their success while GT falters. What is different? As an engineering school you should be good at working a variable into an equation and the only variable is the coaching. Stop using “high standards” as an excuse becasues the above mentioned schools have as high or higher standards for admission as GT and seem to find success on the field (and basketball court).

Bad Dawg

November 26th, 2012
9:58 am

@ DR – “CPJ’s system, with Gailey’s juniors and seniors, went 20-7, flipped the rivalry…”

Huh? GT had a couple of seasons, including a vacated ACC Title (UGA beat you that year), but FLIPPED the rivalry? The victory Johnson accomplished was the first since 2000, and none have followed. Flipping a rivalry takes more than an upset victory once in a dozen years.

I don’t know who you’re going to get, but firing Paul Johnson is a priority. You’re not going any farther with him as your HC.

MC

November 26th, 2012
9:59 am

It’s time to stop hiding behind alleged academic prohibitions and man up. The academic EXCUSE makes the ones peddling it sound like little whining wussies.

SINCERLEY CAP

November 26th, 2012
9:59 am

Enter your comments here

GREAT COMMENT OLE-TIMER,AND DOESOUR DEFENSE REALLY HAVE ALEADER??

Future Tech AD

November 26th, 2012
10:03 am

People, remain calm please. CPJ is “not my guy”. Have no fear, I’m firing him in 364 days. Let the coaching search begin,…now.

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Stinger1

November 26th, 2012
10:11 am

WHEN IS ENOUGH …………..ENOUGH……..? why oh why won’t he just show mercy to his haters & just RESIGN? We fans ………..real fans hurt to see our school so hog tied by someone who cannot coach in this league, or at this level. PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
10:15 am

@MC..based on your thought process..Oregon’s Chip Kelley hates D because they give up alot of points in the past until this year..Florida hates offense this year..they only scored more than 31 points 3 times out of 12 times this year and only 5 of 13 last year..just because it doesnt happen doesnt mean you dont care

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
10:19 am

All of he people that say we need to fire CPJ..please give me a name of a coach we can hire to take his place..i have been saying this for 2 days and no one can give me a name..it is east to say fire the coach but if you dont have a name to hire..how can we be better..

Arkansas
Tennessee
Auburn
Boston College
Kentucky
NC State
Colorado
Oregon (if CK takes a pro job)

Just a few jobs we will be going against to get a new coach

GIVE ME A NAME IF YOU THINK WE NEED TO FIRE CPJ

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
10:20 am

CPJ is a failure in talent appraisal.How else do you start tevin over Vad Lee? Even UGA fans know Vad is a stud athlete, and they saw him for 1 game.

What a wasted season on Tevin Washington. CPJ should be fired for wasting the season. Any idiot would clearly see that Vad is far more capable in EVERY facet of the game.

He should be fired just for playing tevin over vad.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
10:22 am

GT TN: petrino, chizik, hell derek dooley.

All 3 of them could tell you that tevin is a d2 qb; all 3 of them would have started vad from game 1.

Imagine where we would be if CPJ focused on Vad as starter from spring practice? Would we look like a bunch of high schoolers saturday? No.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
10:24 am

It is offical GT Joe=VAD father..if he isnt I have never seen more of a man crush on anyone in my life

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
10:25 am

job #1 for a coach: play your best players.

CPJ failed this most basic task. any REAL coach would put their studs on the field and call plays that the STUDS can run. CPJ has it backwards: he calls HIS plays and plays the players that can run THOSE plays. Idiot.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
10:28 am

@ GT Joe..Petrino would be good but the money guys would never hire him and since you dont give money to the program you cant say anything about the school not wanting to pay him..Dooley and chizik ..it is also official that you know nothing about football..hire 2 coaches that lost more than the coach you have..wow please explain how that is a good hire

"Embarassing", It says.

November 26th, 2012
10:29 am

Wall Street Journal’s Grid of Shame:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443864204577619653485090364.html#project%3DGOS0830%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive

Technically Correct

November 26th, 2012
10:31 am

The difference between this Tech team and Tech teams in the past is ATTITUDE. Tech has played with less “talent” for decades, so that is not new. The difference is that former Tech teams would make up for being slower, smaller and weaker by being absolutelty aggressive. Remember the Black Watch defense? This is the Watch Out defense – watch out for the other team and get out of their way. Time for someone to call out the Tech defense. In the old days, no way Georgia body slams a running back without retaliation. Georgia has swagger on defense. Tech is “swag-less” on defense. Sad. CPJ doesn’t coddle players and that’s fne. Football is a man’s game, not a game for sissies. Until Tech players decide to “Open up a can of whoop-ass” instead of being like docile sheep led to slaughter, they will continue to get their head’s handed to them. Nobody in the Tech nation will complain when it is evident that the Tech players are giving it their all and want it as badly as anything they have ever wanted. Get an unsportsmalike conduct charge every now and then for crying out loud. Or, try a body slam on a running back (see Olec Ogletree for instructions!). Just play like you want to win for a change. That isn’t evident now. Maybe CPJ should do some psychological background checks before extending offers to see who will “man-up” and who will not…

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
10:32 am

It’s official: GT TN is officially CPJ’s jock strap holder. How you defend CPJ is beyond me.

He is AT BEST an Offensive Coordinator. He is no leader. He can’t judge talent. He is stubborn. A fool and his job are soon parted.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
10:36 am

dooley and chizik would at least play our BEST PLAYERS. I.e., job #1 of a coach.

They’d fit the play calling around the personnel, not vice versa.

I have no idea what’s going through Vad’s head right now. Is he pissed? Does he feel like he wasted 2 seasons? Does he hate CPJ? I for one would LOVE to see Vad transfer next year and leave CPJ twisting in the wind with 169 pound Justin Thomas.

Buzzed

November 26th, 2012
10:36 am

gt joe: moron. vad lee is no savior. Totally ineffective against a good team. UGA fans DO NOT know he is a ’stud’, athlete or otherwise. FSU hopes you start him Saturday. He isn’t nearly as good as Florida’s backup QB.

BTW, the acc office should force you to wear Miami uniforms Saturday.

NASCDAWG

November 26th, 2012
10:37 am

Good luck this weekend against FSU, I wish you guys the best.

Tech 54

November 26th, 2012
10:38 am

Rooty @9:39

…”UGA will always recruite better because of the nature of the beast.”

You are correct but the reasons you cite are lame excuses. Athens is a better environment and UGA offers a quality education as well as a top notch program. That spells recruiting success. The canard you foisted about admissions has been examined and debunked. Tech has always had its share of less than stellar scholars on its teams. It is the way things work at this level. UGA has some very fine student athletes. Stop making lame excuses and support the changes that are needed.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
10:38 am

GT Joe..I dont defend CPJ..Im not happy with the team and the teams effort..I think it is stupid to rest the whole season on 1 person like you do every day..I also need a coaches name that will improve the program than just blasting CJP..take a look at the past canidates when CPJ was hired..out of the 10 on the list..only 1 is doing any good today..so keep blasting him..it is always easy to tell people there’s a problem..alot harder to give a solution..no one still has given me a solution..

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
10:46 am

GT TN: you don’t think one player can make a difference? I wonder if the falcons go 10-1 with Luke McCown at QB.

I like CPJ’s offense. He should be OC. A real HC would make that QB decision for him.

Can we win a big game with a game manager like Tevin? Was nesbitt a game manager? Joe Hamilton? Shawn Jones? NO. They were game winners, not game managers. They were Playmakers.

But CPJ stuck with Tevin because he executed his precious plays better. His “my way or the highway” attitude is stupid, foolish, stubborn, and (eventually) job costing.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
10:46 am

GT Joe..how do you know CPJ isnt playing the best players..you pick 1 guy every week and say he is the best..when he struggles..its not his fault..he wasnt prepared..you are the only person that continues to say this..was it CPJ fault that Vad didnt throw it when he was suppose to and then threw it 5 yards over Bostic’s head..closer to the DB than Bostic..was it CPJ fault that Bostic got killed because Vad picked it behind him..I havent seen TW make that pitch..you talk off the top of your head with no meaning..how do you know that Vad isnt happy and knows his time is coming..dont you think if he was not happy he would have transferred after the spring game when he knew that he wasnt going to be the starter..back when he was 3rd string coming out of spring game

Rick James

November 26th, 2012
10:47 am

@NC Jacket

We need Brian Van Gorder now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice idea but Paul Johnson thinks that he can win with subpar talent..Brian Van Gorder wont agree.

It is what it is

November 26th, 2012
10:48 am

The Choke By Coke is the red headed step child of college football.. beat often and mostly by UGA. Backing your way into a ACC Champ game because the Thug-a-Canes are trying to act like they care about discipline of a sudden is a farce. Be proud Tech. Your are about to get freight trained…again.

Al Bundy

November 26th, 2012
10:49 am

Welcome back WnE!!!

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
10:49 am

Those guys didnt have to be game managers..they all had a defense that could at least slow someone down

DIT

November 26th, 2012
10:50 am

This Dawgs will go on record here by saying tech will win this game game based on ball control. Their defense will be able to make one stop and that will be late in the 4th qtr.
Tech will their pack bags to Orange Bowl! Y’all might like this score – 45-42! Good luck Tech!

Rick James

November 26th, 2012
10:51 am

@Crazy Robert
I would like to be one of the first to congratulate the UGA football team for proving yet again that losers can win in college athletics.
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You’re congratulating the wrong team Crazy..It should be the team with 6 wins playing for the ACC tilte and could back into the Orange Bowl. Those are the losers

Al Bundy

November 26th, 2012
10:55 am

Until CPJ gets it through his thick skull and Tech gets a defense they will never go undefeated period! They will always be a team that loses 2 or more games a year. Everyone except CPJ knows defense wins championships!

Technically Correct

November 26th, 2012
11:01 am

If the Administration thinks this year’s attendance was bad, think what happens next year on the heels of a 6 – 8 season, including 4th quarter collapses and embarrassing defeats by Middle Tennessee State, UGA, FSU and (fill in the blank) bowl opponent. Is there any wonder why the Atlanta community-at-large has given up on the “body of work” being showcased on The Flats?

you can't fix stupid or bulldogs

November 26th, 2012
11:03 am

tired of all the reasons why CPJ should stay but losing to Georgie is main reason he should go…who cares about the ACC champ now! Time for a change from top to bottom of the football program.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
11:07 am

GT TN: those guys were playmakers. If they were only capable of being game managers, their records would be 6-6 (like this year), regardless of the defense. Tevin couldn’t put this team on his back like a real QB can.

It’s not his fault. It’s CPJ’s fault.

If CPJ focused on the one, talented, d1 QB on the roster (vad lee), as starter from spring practice, or even after the VT game, or even after the BYU game, the UGA outcome could be different. Or at least not embarrassing.

Even with the little preparation that Vad has had, he still looks better than Tevin. WAY better. How does CPJ not see this? How did the light bulb not go off during the UNC game? What game was he watching?

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:10 am

@ you can’t fix stupid or bulldogs..like I have been saying a ton of times..easy to say fire CPJ but who are you going to hire..everytime I say that the people who say fire him seem to go away..easy to say what problem is..takes a real person to come up with solution

Flak Jacket

November 26th, 2012
11:10 am

Future Tech AD.Hurry up.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:12 am

GT Joe..what was Nesbitt problem the year he had CAG as a DC..he was 5-4 with AG was a coach..I guess he didnt make enough palys to win..so Nesbitt did struggle when he had no defense

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:19 am

Is that the same UNC defense that let a guy playing LB 4 weeks ago score 38 points..I think CPJ can see what Vad did against a defense in the first half at UGA..funny how Vad does well and it is all Vad but when he doesnt do well it is coaches fault..name 1 other spot ont he field that CPJ isnt playing best players since you said its not about 1 player

Tired Tech Alumni

November 26th, 2012
11:23 am

We have no chance of winning without special team and defense. Stop dreaming, fire Paul Johnson. He should just be an offensive coach, he sucks at being a head coach. He doesn’t realize he is the one responsible for all aspect of the game. Tech paying him too much for the little he does.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:27 am

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE A NAME OF WHO TO HIRE IF WE FIRE CPJ………………………NO ONE WILL DO THAT

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
11:28 am

GT TN: how long are you going to blame CAG? Are you still blaming GW Bush for the economy too? Nesbitt was 5-3 under Groh; even WITH Groh, Nesbitt carried us on his back. Did you not notice what happened to the rest of the season when Tevin took over? 1-5. But I guess that was CAG’s fault, LOL.

Vad did as well as Tevin vs. UGA. Look at the rush stats. More pass yards. He had one bad pitch and one bad pass. Big deal.

And yes, it is about ONE player. The QB. The most important player. But since you ask: He doesn’t play Snoddy? I think a real coach finds a place for the fastest man in the state. He just now plays Days? Seriously?

Days, Snoddy and Lee shouldn’t be seen on the bench ever. But our head coach is a stubborn fool.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
11:29 am

GT TN: I gave you three names, but you ignore me. Chizik, Dooley, Leach, Petrino.

HAPPY NOW?! At least they will find the athletes, find a position for them, put them ON THE FIELD, and call plays for them.

NASCDAWG

November 26th, 2012
11:32 am

@ GT Joe – Do you really want Petrino to be the face of your program.

Buzzed

November 26th, 2012
11:34 am

techie: I think it’s ‘georgie’, but you’ll have to confirm with stupidsize, uoad, 1 4 gt, george stein and some of the other ladies – when they return.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:36 am

No I didnt ignore you..I told you why GT wouldnt hire Petrino and why Chizik and Dooley are not good canidates..fire someone that has a better track record than the guys you are hiring..thats real smart..by the way..Leach already has a job

To put Snoddy and Days have to replace someone..who do you take off the field..who are they better than

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
11:37 am

Yes, I like Petrino. He is a winner.

As for Chizik, the man CAN recruit. Which is what we lack.

Dooley? How crazy would that be? Vince’s son coaching Tech?

In a nutshell, pretty much any coach can look at our roster and figure out the best players at each position, then play them, and call plays that fit their strengths. CPJ can’t get past step #1.

Buzzed

November 26th, 2012
11:38 am

Dang. I swear there was a post from Techie just a few minutes ago. Must’ve gotten delayed-censored.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:39 am

@ NASCDawg..he doesnt care who is the face of the program..he is so called GT fan that doesnt leave his home to go to games becuase he gets replays and better angles at home..he is a sad person

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
11:40 am

GT TN: snoddy is more athletic than sims OR laskey. Snoddy can break one for 90 yards. Laskey? NOPE.

Godhigh, bless his heart, is a player. But days wouldn’t get body slammed by Rambo. That was as big a play as any ALL DAY. An embarrassment to Tech, and a perfect illustration that they have athletes on the field, and we don’t.

Orwin and Days at a-back. Snoddy at b-back. Lee at QB. Should have been the lineup at VT. Sadly, we’ll NEVER see it.

1 4 GT

November 26th, 2012
11:41 am

Folk can talk about Stanford, ND, Vandy, Northwestern or which ever school comes to mind & their tuff academic requirements matching up with GT or even more all they want. And those schools being able to recruit the better athletes ala the Bammers & Georgies and their ilk. They forget that those schools have the same broad based curricula that georgie & bammer have. And that GT has a very limited curricula with not even half the majors/schools of study of the other schools. Hell, the Ga BOR has even taken schools of study (School of Commerce in 1933) away from GT & put it in Athens. Tech did get the Ivan Allen Business College thru the good graces of the BOR, but there is no Urban Studies, Women’s Studies, Journalism or any of the multitude of majors that the other Universities have. Anyone that does not admit to this difference just does not want to acknowledge the difference this makes in recruiting. It is not an excuse, it is a fact. A kid can go to Tech and have a narrow selection of majors or go to a university like georgie and have over 170 choices for his undergrad major or go to Tech & have 36 choices for his undergrad major (count them for yourself as I did). I/we are not making excuses, just stating facts. If anyone wants to deny this fact, have at it. Stanford, ND, Vandy & the other high academic requirement schools have way more than 36 undergrad majors, I guarentee that. Heck, Tech only offers 113 degrees total=36 undergrad, 47 masters & 30 doctorates. Selah!

ptcdawg

November 26th, 2012
11:41 am

As a native Atlantan and long time Dawg fan, it is sad to see what GT has become. Your coach and his high school offense and his sardonic personality have thrust GT into depths of futility never seen before on the Flats. Please go get a good coach and bring back the passion for more “good old fashioned hate”. It is more fun to beat GT when they are good and think they have a chance.

Milk Bone Underwear

November 26th, 2012
11:43 am

@Texas Dawg…Are you serious!!! Little easier to graduate from UGA taking recreation, phy. Ed, or African-Americam studies as a football player. Little tougher to graduate from GT taking the math courses that are required at Tech. I just wonder how many Dawg playas take MATH! No wonder their grad rate is higher. You might not be the brightest bulb in the socket!

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:48 am

And you know Snoddy is better than both of them how???have you seen him play or practice..maybe he fumbles all the time..you have no idea why he isnt playing..also Godhigh has been our most productive back the last 5 weeks and you want to take him off the field..you are really stupid..

by the way..Nesbitt was 5-4..Tech lost the VT game he started and wasnt leading when he got hurt..this is still CAG defense..he will be blamed..we cant stop anyone

Middle Tennessee State University AD

November 26th, 2012
11:52 am

OH *$%! NO. Rick Stockstill is OFF LIMITS. No way I’d let him RUIN his career by taking the (future) vacant headcoach position at Georgia Tech University. No way people.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
11:54 am

@GT Joe..by the way Snoddy should be more athletic than a 2 guys that he is 3 inches smaller and 20 and 30 lbs lighter..

Rick James

November 26th, 2012
11:54 am

@Crazy Robert

would like to be one of the first to congratulate the UGA football team for proving yet again that losers can win in college athletics.
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Not that is funny! Tech is 6-6 and playing for a conference title.They will need a waivier from the NCAA to play in a bowl game which is absurd.The losers you should be congratualting is Tech.

UGA = Yawn

November 26th, 2012
11:57 am

We should have all known the season was over after the Un of Miami game – I was there – I did. The rest of you didn’t? What more would you have to see that this year is a total disgrace. We will sell tens or maybe hundreds of tickets to Charlotte. I would be so surprised if we sell more than 1000. Who would be stupid enough to go. We are GT – we are smart! The empty seats in the arena is what finally got Hewitt fired. We need to do the same in football. Saturday was a start. Very few GT fans in Athens – the fewest I have ever seen. Charlotte will be diserted. Next year for our home games – stay home if Johnson is still the coach. Why would you go and put yourself through this continual misery? Get wise GT!

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
12:05 pm

GT Joe..TW was 1-3 the rest of Nesbitt season and not 1-5 as you say..he lost to UGA , Miami and A.. he beat Duke..Nesbitt had a lost to a 3 win Kansas team and a Clemson team that had a losing record..TW loses were to a bad UGA team and a avg Clemson team..so Nesbitt did nothing with AG as DC

Born2Buzz

November 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

Here is my question for CPJ…would you run this same offense in the NFL? I would expect the answer to be of course not. Well, guess what, when you play against the big boys in college football, meaning UGA, FSU, Clemson, any decent bowl opponent, you are playing against defenses that are as close to NFL level as you will see in college.
Sure we can beat Duke and half of the ACC, even VT, Miami and UNC on occasion. But why not prepare for the elite teams on your schedule?
CPJ said he wants to win championships. If you want to win championships you have to coach to play at the highest level, not a middling ACC level. You have to have a great defense and adequate special teams.
I know we are stuck with CPJ for at least another year (unless something utterly horrible happens in these next 2 games), so I hope he changes his ways and makes something of this.

BreakingNews

November 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

This just in…Tech defenders are STILL trying to catch/stop Gurley & Marshall…

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
12:20 pm

Here is my question for CPJ…would you run this same offense in the NFL? I would expect the answer to be of course not.

Would Chip Kelly, Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, or Bo Pelini run the same offense if they were coaching in the NFL? Its a dumb question. The NFL is drastically different from college football.

www

November 26th, 2012
12:20 pm

i think CPJ will be around for a while but the new AD should hire an offensive coordinator as well as the defensive coordinator that we obviously need.

a new qb coach would be a smart hire as well.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
12:21 pm

@Born2Buzz..how big of a GT fan are you..CPJ has a winning record against Clemson and never lost to FSU..has losing record against UGA..is his offense run in the NFL no but Oregon’s isnt as well..something wrong with the Oregon offense

Home Crowd

November 26th, 2012
12:23 pm

It doesn’t matter how you coach if you have boys playing against men. Our smaller, weaker players are getting man handled against superior teams. It’s just a fact. We are smaller than ever before and we can’t even get to the edges w/ smaller folks. Our D gets ran over like they are “stuck in mud” (quoted by CPJ himself) and that’s not b/c of coaching. It’s because of size, speed, and strength…

It’s a joke to watch our team try and compete on the big time level anymore. I’ve had enough w/ CPJ. Time to go…

Buzz Light Year

November 26th, 2012
12:25 pm

@www. A recruiting coordinator couldn’t hurt either.

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
12:32 pm

It’s not the AD’s job to choose coordinators. It is the head coaches job.

JoeFan

November 26th, 2012
12:38 pm

Regardless of how this season ends CPJ will be here for one more season. That being said, Tech has no business in the ACCCG or in going to a bow. The time would be better spent recruiting and upgrading the coaching staff.

roughrider

November 26th, 2012
12:39 pm

As a UGA alum and a native Georgian, I pull for Tech to win all games except one per year.What burns me up is the posters on here saying that Tech can not get good players because of academics. What a load of bull !!! My proof is that Tech has a good basketball team year in and year out.Same with baseball. It is my opinion that the problem with football at Tech lies with the coaching staff.The triple option that coach Johnson runs worked well at GA Southern and Navy because of the schedules they played. However, it does not work well with the type of schedules Tech plays. Tech’s opponents have bigger, stronger players. The top high school players do not want to play in coach Johnson’s type offense.Also he likes to berate the players and blame losing on them.Tech is a prestigious school and could get a good assistant coach from another school to be head coach.Kirby Smart of Ala has let it be known that he would like to be head coach.After years of learning from the best coach in college football, Nick Saban, Smart could have Tech as a powerhouse in football again. O’Leary did it and it could be done again. Tech is too good of a school to be traveling down this loser’s road.

confused

November 26th, 2012
12:43 pm

Why is Paul Johnson still Coach Paul Johnson?

BAL

November 26th, 2012
12:45 pm

We need to go pluck Bud Foster from VT

London Jacket

November 26th, 2012
12:47 pm

Despite living in London, I was able to watch almost all of GT’s games this year on ESPN Player. It pains me to say this but the standard of college football played across the country but in particualr in the South is way above where we are as a programme now.

Our team was woefully overmatched against Georgia but the scary thing was they knew it after two series and sort of quit (at least on defense). All credit to Georgia – I think they look great right now and they have some incredible athletes on that team.

I think GT is on the verge of becoming irrelevant and we would struggle to be a .500 team in the FCS at the moment. It is time to get a new AD and look hard at what the future of the programme needs to be. I don’t think it is Johnson and his coaching staff. They are not coaching what the best players come to programmes to learn and the players they now have seem to have lost heart in their message. And to be blunt we just don’t have players who are of the caliber of the good teams right now.

It is time to change.

wrecked again

November 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

GT will get abused again and then in a bowl. Here comes the 6-8 record.Can tech afford Kirby Smart?

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
12:51 pm

My proof is that Tech has a good basketball team year in and year out.Same with baseball.

I’m not sure I would say we have had a good basketball team in a while but either way it is different. In basketball you have a maximum of 13 scholarship players at any time. In Football you have 85. A basketball team may only sign 2-3 players in some years. In basketball you can bolt for the NBA after one year if you want to. You cant do that in football. They aren’t nearly the same thing. Academic requirements have far less impact on basketball recruiting.

Math is Hard!

November 26th, 2012
12:55 pm

A battle between two teams that can’t beat their archrivals. Thrilling. Still, I hope the Jackets bring home the hardware. Oh, and ROLL TIDE ROLL!

ty webb

November 26th, 2012
12:58 pm

for the sake of the ACC, hopefully, whoever televises this “championship” game will keep camera shots tight…thousands of empty seats(yet again) is quite embarrassing.

headley lamar

November 26th, 2012
1:05 pm

Academic requirements have far less impact on basketball recruiting.

The academics argument is tired and old.

Maybe if Tech’s graduation rates for Football and Basketball weren’t some of the worst in the nation those claims could be taken seriously.

UGA = Yawn

November 26th, 2012
1:05 pm

GT TN, he is 0-5 in bowls, 1-4 vs VT, 1-4 vs UGA

Buzz Light Year

November 26th, 2012
1:09 pm

When a team that has no heritage, such as Maryland bolts your conference. The writing is on the wall. How much time until FSU and Va Tech bail out and leave us hanging with a conference worse than the Sunbelt?

old dog

November 26th, 2012
1:11 pm

I want ya’ll to do better….it is good for the beloved State of Georgia all the way around. However, the talent level is the lowest I have ever seen it. Admittedly, the Coastal Division of the ACC is not much of a prize, but ya’ll had to have help to achieve that. Nobody out there could win with the “talent” (or lack there-of) that you have. Whoever comes in will have to recruit extremely well. The best D coach out there, one who can “coach ‘em up” would be very limited with the players you now have. I think that since no good o-players want to play in that system, that the D players are starting to run….since they will be put on a bad position. I know the o- has performed okay against bad teams, but Tech has proven that they are only a mid-lower pack team in the ACC, and that is bad, as the ACC at the present time is pretty much a bad conference for football.
Ya’ll need to quit making excuses, sign a coach who plays some kind of 20-21st century offense and get the talent level up as well. I f not, ya’ll are in for a tough time. Ga. Southern would have beat ya’ll this year at your own game…..and they are D-2,( or whatever you call them now.)

ty webb

November 26th, 2012
1:14 pm

“leave us hanging with a conference worse than the Sunbelt?”

actually the Sun Belt is more competitive with the SEC than the ACC…and I don’t even have to bring up MTSU to you guys…so it seems your question has already been answered.

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
1:15 pm

Maybe if Tech’s graduation rates for Football and Basketball weren’t some of the worst in the nation those claims could be taken seriously.

What do graduation rates have to do with academic admission requirements? Most regular students at GT struggle to stay on pace for graduation.

NASCDAWG

November 26th, 2012
1:26 pm

There is no doubt that that GT is a great school and academically challenging. That does limit the field of prospective athletes. Because of this it will take a coach that not only coach the Xs and Os but can also recruit athletes/students as well as their parents. I have two nieces and a nephew that have graduated from GT and I understand how hard it is to be a student there. I look forward to the day you can be proud of your program.

TampaDawg

November 26th, 2012
1:28 pm

GT Joe, have to agree with you on Dooley and Chizik. Can’t use their records versus CPJs record as a reason not to replace CPJ with one of them. Those two were coaching against vastly superior SEC teams and not losing to MTSU, Miami and others.

But I don’t think having “Vince’s son” coach tech would be all that bad considering he was coaching UT and we hate them too.

TEXAS DAWG

November 26th, 2012
1:29 pm

@Milkbone
Keep thowing personal insults out there but it does no change facts. Most people resort to personal attacks on the messanger when then can not attack the message. Since the days of Ross and O’leary the quality of the product on the field has MARKEDLY declined. Did GT change admission requirements since then or did the coaching and quality of recruiting change. Calling people names can not hide the fact that GT went form a MNC in 1990 to unable to beat MTSU today. Once again, I ask did GT change as a school or did the coaching staff change and are now not very good at their jobs. Look at UGA defense with BVG and then the decline on defense under Willy Martinez and the resurgence under Grantham. Admission requirements did not change. Willy had plenty of great athletes, he put a lot of guys in the pros but he could not coach them.

Born2Buzz

November 26th, 2012
1:29 pm

GT TN, I think the O could be fine, but you cannot keep doing the same thing, you have to be able to throw the ball. Spurrier, Kelly, Meyer and Pellini all run offenses that throw the ball.

My point is that when you go against the big boys, the defense is NOT drastically different from the NFL. There is a proven track record that against the big boy defenses we’ve played, the O has struggled to put points on the board.

But you know what, it’s not the O that has me upset, and it’s not the recruiting (hey, 90% of FBS teams are at a similar level of talent as we are), it’s the complete lack of a defense and spotty special teams play. Chip Kelly in Oregon realized that he better get a defense if he wants to win championships. And look what happened the them this year, that lost their 1 game when their O got shut down.

CPJ needs to start being the Head Coach. I just don’t know if he can change his ways, although he shows glimmers of being able to do so.

And he’s lost the last 2 to Clemson and haven’t played FSU in 2 years. The trending is not good.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

GT TN: are you really blaming nesbitt for the 2010 VT loss? I’ll give you a hint: who threw a pick to end the game? who ALWAYS throws a pick to end the game? I’ll spot you the first 4 letters: TEVI_

As for Snoddy: the fastest man in the state? the fastest man on the team? He can’t get on the field? Seriously? If you are going to use the same old explanation “if he was good enough, CPJ would play him” argument, you are a fool. CPJ doesn’t KNOW who is good enough. Proof? Vad in the UNC game should have put to rest any debate on the superior QB. But he plays Tevin in all but 1 meaningful drive vs. Duke, and throws away the UGA game on Tevin (Vad comes into the game down 21-3).

Your defense of CPJ and Tevin is comical. And sad. Wake up. The guy is a stubborn fool. I would say that you will learn during the FSU game, but if you haven’t learned already, you will never learn.

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

Did GT change admission requirements since then or did the coaching and quality of recruiting change.

Admissions requirements have changed a great deal since O’Leary and he openly complained about recruiting difficulties.

Academic Coach

November 26th, 2012
1:37 pm

Tech has basket weaving majors as well. Can someone honestly say Industrial Engineering? History, Technology, & Society, Public Policy. All colleges have various degree programs. To keep hammering on academics and why kids won’t go to GT is ludicrous. Coaching is the issue. Go for Steve Spurrier Jr and see what he can offer.

Flak Jacket

November 26th, 2012
1:37 pm

FLA.STATE will rout CPJ.

TampaDawg

November 26th, 2012
1:42 pm

Academic Coach – Stevie Jr. will get his shot someday. Went to school with him in the late 80s, early 90s. Just as much a jerk as dad.

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
1:52 pm

Tech has basket weaving majors as well. Can someone honestly say Industrial Engineering?

We are ranked #1 in the country in Industrial Engineering above Michigan, Northwestern, and Stanford. You really think that is one of our easy majors that we hide football players in?

85jacket

November 26th, 2012
1:52 pm

most people have no idea how tough a school TECH is. Your average four start student athlete would not entertain TECH as an option. TECH is comparable to MIT and they certainly don’t compete in division one football. The fact that TECH can field a respectable team is a testament to the coaching staff. This is nothing new. Coach Dodd even lamented about the talent differential when he came to TECH from Tennessee. TECH will always be at a recruiting disadvantage. The trick is to cast the net wide and far looking for that special kid with intellect and athletic talent.
I do think that Basketball is unique where one to two great players can change the game for a particular team. In football, two to three special talents per team are needed to level the field. Unfortunately, this year TECH does not have one special talent that will prosper on Sunday. At the same time, Georgia has at least ten players who will play on Sunday.
The challenge for TECH is to finish as strong as possible and sign the class they have recruited and coach up the good players on the roster. If that is done then TECH could win against Georgia every now and then.

GTVegas

November 26th, 2012
1:54 pm

Academic Coach – You have just shown how completely ignorant you are and need to just quit talking about GT academics and majors as you obviously don’t understand what you are writing about. I would suggest you do a littel research into exactly what those degrees are that you site and what courses are required by each.

As with any college, university or institute, the easiest way to find the least challenging degree is to look at what the athletes are majoring in, period. At GT, it is primarily management, and while management might not be as difficult as engineering, it still is not a pushover, as evidenced by it’s relatively high ranking.

You might want to wait to comment until you figure out just what Industrial Engineering is before you make another fool of yourself.

GTVegas

November 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

I will give a little leeway to AC. I sat in a room with my son at Purdue with about 30 other high school students in an engineering program orientation andonly one other parent in the room knew what an Industrial Engineer was.

Now, I think GT is closer to Purdue than about anywhere else, limited degree options outside engineering (although far more than GT) and still trying to compete at a high level for athletics. no big surprise, they have problems as well.

Tech needs a real football coach

November 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

It is time to fire Johnson as football coach and hire someone who knows how to play college football. The Triple Option doesn’t work and won’t work to become National Champions! When Tech plays decent teams, they play like high school teams. It is not the players’ fault, it is the coach’s because he is trying to put a round peg in a square hole! Why do all the other ACC teams get great coaches while Tech get the throw-offs? Maybe the problem has been the AD? Now that he is gone, let’s make sweeping changes right after the end of the season.

Tech needs a real football coach

November 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

Let’s bring back George O’Leary to Tech–a great coach and a nice guy. He understands student/athletes.
What do you think?

GT Fan

November 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

jabster
November 25th, 2012
10:43 pm

Agribusiness
Sport Management
Criminal Justice
Health Promotion
Recreation & Leisure Studies
Housing
Family Finance Planning
Child & Family Development
Social Studies Education
Exercise & Sport Science
Consumer Economics (fka Home Ec)
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Thanks Jabster!

If people like WnE can’t understand that these Majors / Colleges of Study don’t help so many of the FB powers then they really are mental midgets.

WnE says:
ND 12-0
Stanford 10-2
Northwestern 9-3
Vandy 8-4
Please stop making crappy Academics excuses.
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Some rhetorcial questions …
Are any of these schools as specialized in Colleges of Study / Majors as GT?
If a kid wanted to get a Business Degree would he go to GT or one of the 4 WnE mentioned?
If a kid wanted to get a Law Degree would he go to GT or one of the 4 WnE mentioned?
If a kid wanted to get a Journalism Degree would he go to GT or one of the 4 WnE mentioned?
If a kid wanted to get a Medical Degree would he go to GT or one of the 4 WnE mentioned?

If an athelete (who thinks he’s going to the NFL), and is questionable from an academic standpoint, needed a college where he could “hide” in lessor major, would he choose GT or UGA, Clemson, SC, UT, Bama, AU, FSU, UF, LSU, etc.?

UGA ain’t the only school in the South that doesn’t want GT’s curricula to broaden.

GT Fan

November 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

Is either Jarvis Jones, A. Ogletree, or B.Rambo a Dean’s List student?
What were W.Ealey & I.Crowell majoring in?

What degree did David Pollack or David Greene earn at UGA?

And Herschel Walker…what writing is on his diploma?

Rick James

November 26th, 2012
2:17 pm

@GTBob

What do graduation rates have to do with academic admission requirements? Most regular students at GT struggle to stay on pace for graduation
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Bob you lean on the academic crutch when it comes to Paul Johnson’s recruiting of subpar talent.Saying that he can only recruit the kids with high test scores.Then you turn around and say that graduation rates have nothing to do with admission.I beg to differ,smart kids graduate at any cost.Aaron Murry did in three years while playing football and I’m sure there are students at tech who have done the same..When I said to you that Stanford is a school with high academic standings and winning foootball you say the program is maginal.Yet when I say Notre Dame’s schedule is not that strong you say oh but they beat Stanford who’s really good.You make great points at times Bob but your flip flopping invaladates most of them.

Too Easy

November 26th, 2012
2:21 pm

Comparable schools for Tech’s limited curriculum:

Rensselaer Tech
Colorado School of Mines
Harvey Mudd
MIT
Cal Tech
Purdue

How are their football programs?

People keep throwing out Notre Dame, Stanford, & Northwestern. Nope, they have much broader possibilities for majors than Tech. If you’re going to compare, at least educate yourselves a little and compare apples and apples.

Thanks.

Rational One

November 26th, 2012
2:32 pm

Charlotte will be ugly.

Rick James

November 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

@GT Fan

November 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

Is either Jarvis Jones, A. Ogletree, or B.Rambo a Dean’s List student?
What were W.Ealey & I.Crowell majoring in?

What degree did David Pollack or David Greene earn at UGA?

And Herschel Walker…what writing is on his diploma?
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I see your point but why pick on Georgia? Why was Kenny Anderson’s number never retired? He never graduated.Niether Jonathon Dwyer,Morgan Burnette or Derrick Morgan never graduated from Tech.But it never prevented any of them from earning millions of dollars.Dont pretend that all Tech players are members of Mensa and the all get their degrees.Tech has the lowest graduation rate amoung football players in the ACC for a reason.David Pollack was a commications major at Georgia he earned over 12 million dollars in and injury shortened proffesional career and now he earns hundreds of thousands on ESPN’s game day.By the way what’s Keny Anderson doing these days after blowing 75 million dollars?

wreckbone

November 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

You guys saying we have not had a defense in 20 years, that is funny. We had one 6 years ago and it only had to do with Tenuta. Chan inherited a gold mine when he got Tenuta and Calvin Johnson. But Tenuta wanted head coach gig and had to go. I like our style of offense. It can score and is close to being really good in my opinion. If a defense can be found we can beat really good teams. But you old guys who complain about the glory days, well we are not in the SEC thanks to the old days. So all of you who would love to go back, get over it. In hindsight, we are the stupidest school, conference wise, to leave the SEC. The reasons were honorable, but who could have known that conferences would boil down to football TV money. Maryland has no team to speak of in football. Look what happened to them when they fired Frigeden? They suck much worse after he was shown the door. But they went to the Big 10 because they cannot make the bills. They were only asked due to them having a TV market for the football. You think Big 10 is saying, “wow we have a new competitive team that will give Ohio State and Michigan a run for the money!” no, they are saying, “well we can get more money from cable operators for the DC market!” I am sure field hockey and soccer were not mentioned.

If we lose Johnson, I don’t think we will be competitive for 5 years. If you leave him here, we may be quite competitive the next 3 if you get some defense working. I say if you want to give money to show Johnson the door as I heard people did for Hewitt, then spend that money sending Johnson and some DC candidate (such as Tenuta) on a vacation together. Johnson wants to hire a great defensive coach, but his plan did not work last time. As far as the AD is concerned, I think D Rad did a fine job and am glad he is gone if he did not want to be here. I expect Clemson to go to the SEC next all behind D Rad. I think he wanted that to happen here but determined that the opposition was too great to overcome.

GT Fan

November 26th, 2012
2:36 pm

DEFENSE …. what in the world happened to GT’s D?

37…that’s the most pts an oppenent had vs GT in 2011, followed by 35, 31 (twice), and 30 (Bowl game). That’s 5 games, in 13 total, that the opponent had 30+ vs. GT.

So far in 2012 there have been SIX (6) opponents who have managed 41+ vs. GT
And, IMO, a 7th is coming on Saturday. And, if GT goes to the Sun Bowl vs. a PAC 12 team like UW, USC, AZ, AZ St, it’ll probably be an 8th team to put up 40+.

How did the D become so bad?

GT Fan

November 26th, 2012
2:49 pm

Rick James ….

Not really picking on UGA. See the last line of my post before the one you are referring to.

UGA is just the one school in which I know more players.

Obviously there are similar situations to UGA’s (and maybe some worse) at UT, Clemson, SC, AU, Bama, UF, FSU, LSU etc.
Sammy Watkins, Eric Berry, Lattimore, Cam Newton, T.Cody, Emmitt Smith, Deion Sanders, Jemarcus Russell to name one from each.

But the pt on this blog, that so many UGA fans claim GT people “make excuses for” is no excuse, it’s verifiable fact. GT does not have the broad curricula necessary to sustain/build a college FB power.

Flak Jacket

November 26th, 2012
3:04 pm

How much money will it cost to run CPJ off if he does not turn it around by the end of next season?It looks like he will be back from all i have heard.

Ed Pilcher

November 26th, 2012
3:14 pm

GT goes 0-2 vs UGA and FSU. How much longer will GT put up with Paul (I got bigger fish to fry) Johnson?

Ed Pilcher

November 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

Actually, as a UGA fan, I hope GT gives him a lifetime contract.

TechApp fan

November 26th, 2012
3:18 pm

my champ game fantacy. Jumbo reads the Tech blog and is convinced that Joe is correct and
starts Trickett Saturday. Before he wakes up, Tech has the score@21-3. Jumbo then sends out EJ to finish….but it’s too late.

John

November 26th, 2012
3:18 pm

I have been a Tech fan my whole life (not something to be proud of) and was at the game on Saturday in Athens. That was the saddest effort I have ever seen out of a college football team. They literally looked like a high school scout team out on the field. Players were getting picked up and slammed to the ground, but the saddest part of it all, is that we watched while UGA did it. Stick up for your players being body slammed, get a penalty, stick up for your team. It was embarrasing…this is not a team. Coaches are suppose to coach, CPJ doesn’t do this, these little plays don’t work in college football (AKA the Triple-O). If Tech does decide to go up and play for the ACC Championship, please don’t look like idiots out there, earn your SCHOLARSHIP.

G.P. Burdell

November 26th, 2012
3:27 pm

To some of you calling for PJ to be fired, be careful what you ask for. I’ve heard from some big boosters that there are more than one school interested in hiring PJ, including NC State, which is closer to where he grew up.

I don’t see anyone out there currently that would be a better fit, especially taking into account the fact that we won’t be able to be competitive in salary right now.

I_DOG

November 26th, 2012
3:28 pm

Can’t agree that academics are the reason that tech hasn’t recruited well recently.

Last year, tech offered 7 of the 19 recruits in UGA’s recruiting class a scholarship. 3 more were offered by either Duke or Wake and that does’t include the two kickers in this class, so 10 of 17 position players offered by tech, Duke/Wake. Players like Gurley, Marshall, and Jordan Jenkins are 4 and 5 star players starting for UGA as true freshmen that turned down scholarship offers to tech.

This year. Of the top 80 high school players in Georga. 16 have COMMITTED to play for tech, stanford, vandy, or Cal Berkley. Four of those are 4 star players. This does’t even include the players that tech has OFFERED but that committed somewhere else or haven’t yet committed anywhere.

If tech signed just a fraction of the top 50 players in Georgia that they either offered or have committed to elite universities like Cal, Duke, Stanford, Vanderbilt, etc… they would have PLENTY of firepower to compete in the ACC and beat UGA 1 out of every 3 games.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
3:29 pm

TechAppFan: If you are equating Trickett to Vad Lee, you are a fool. Even worse, if you are equating EJ to Tevin, you are a stupid fool.

TEXAS DAWG

November 26th, 2012
3:31 pm

GT Fan,
In reply to your comment “GT does not have the broad curricula necessary to sustain/build a college FB power.”

My parents always told me that if you do not like something, then change it. If you can not change it learn to live with it and make the best of the situation, but stop complaining. Complaining does nothing but make those around you think you are weak and just looking to blame others for the situation you are in.

TechApp fan

November 26th, 2012
3:33 pm

@G P….Yow has indicated she wants someone to bring “Alabama” type football to Raleigh.

The new guy will probably insist on a guaranteed 4-5-6 year contract before he commits to that
type results.

My opinion, the next stop for PJ (whenever that is) will be in Boone.

tech mess

November 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

johnson should have throw the white towel on the field sat . against uga–i was afraid the players neck would be broken–it was appaling to watch the guys being picked up and dropped on their head–shameful and devilish

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
3:38 pm

Bob you lean on the academic crutch when it comes to Paul Johnson’s recruiting of subpar talent.

Alright Rick James, please explain to us all then why no coach at GT since Bobby Dodd has been able to recruit successfully. If it 100% has nothing at all to do with academics in any way then what is it?

Georgia Tech Alum of 88

November 26th, 2012
3:39 pm

Hey, we gave you Joe Rogers; Co-founder of Waffle House. Need I say anymore?

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
3:39 pm

Seriously folks. The academic argument is stupid. There are plenty of 4 and 5 star athletes with a brain that can graduate from Tech.

Winning begets winning. If we string together some ACC Titles, we can start getting ANYONE we want. Based on this season at UGA, you can expect a top 5 recruiting class from them this year. Winning will get them there.

That said, our team is WAY underperforming. Our talent level isn’t that bad, it’s coaching. We can’t even get our best athletes on the field! Lee, Snoddy, Days have played MAYBE 5% of total snaps this year. Come on. This is all on CPJ.

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
3:41 pm

Yet when I say Notre Dame’s schedule is not that strong you say oh but they beat Stanford who’s really good.

Once again I said that Stanford does not have a great football program. They have a good team this year and have had a few years of success riding off of Harbaugh and Luck. That doesn’t erase decades of terrible teams that existed right before it. Do I really need to explain the difference in a team and a program to you? You are a smart guy, quit playing dumb.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
3:41 pm

GTBob: you know why we can’t recruit? Because we don’t WIN.

Players want to play for winners. We don’t win.

Want proof? How did we get all those NBA players into our bball program? Because we had a real, respectable, WINNING bball program. Kenny, Stephon, Bosh, Best, stud athletes that came here because we WON.

TechApp fan

November 26th, 2012
3:43 pm

Joe, I may be a fool or even a stupid fool, but I can recognize a joke…even about your style of one track blog. Sometimes you come across so pro Lee that it appears that you do not even care about the final outcome of the game as long as you choice plays. Is that true?

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
3:48 pm

Want proof? How did we get all those NBA players into our bball program? Because we had a real, respectable, WINNING bball program.

We have had two really good recruiting classes in a row in basketball yet we have had 4 losing seasons in the past 5 years. How do you explain that? In football UGA went 6-7 in 2010 and then signed the 5th best recruiting class in the country. Did winning effect that? We went 11-3 in 2009 and signed the 43rd best recruiting class. Did winning help our recruiting? Winning is only a small part of recruiting overall.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
3:48 pm

I do care about the final outcome, which is why I am so pro-Lee. The pro-Tevin crowd seems to be more concerned about senior respect, nice guy personality, and execution of plays than winning.

If you think Tevin is the best we have to offer, then we’ll have to agree to disagree.

GT Willie

November 26th, 2012
3:50 pm

3 stars are 3 stars folks. It showed Saturday. Even our coach, he would be lucky to be rated a 3 star coach after FSU boat races us. Maybe some MEAC school needs to upgrade to a 3 star coach and is willing to take him off our hands?

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
3:53 pm

GTBob: recent bball recruiting? blips on the radar. Call me when a recruiting trend emerges (which won’t happen unless we start WINNING). BTW, love what CBG is doing, we might be a winner sooner rather than later.

UGA 2010: Ummm, they’d been winning for 10 years under Richt.

GT 2009: Ummm, we’d been mediocre for the previous 10 years.

The moral of the story: string together successful seasons, and the recruits will come. One season will have a short-term effect on recruiting (at best).

TechApp fan

November 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

I think Lee could have been utilized better this year. But, I also liked what I saw from TW in that first drive that resulted in Tech getting to the one yard line before that game changer occured. You evidently cannot agree that TW had Tech moving….that his starting per you was a waste. Everyone has their own thinking…no problem.

BuzzE

November 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

tech should just hang it up—there’s no way they can beat fsu and that D with the mickey mouse wishbone and a terrible defense.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
3:56 pm

What you folks fail to realize is this: the kids who care about education are probably not the 5 stars. The 5 stars care about national exposure, being on TV, and getting into an NFL factory (like UGA).

If we started winning, we could get those players too. But it would take 5 years of SERIOUS winning before we could even the recruiting playing field with UGA.

GT Joe

November 26th, 2012
3:59 pm

TechAppFan: what play were you most impressed with in that first drive by Tevin? All the handoffs to the b back, or was it the pitches to the a-backs? Tevin did nothing of note in that drive. He had zero total yards in the drive. I think Vad could pull that off, do you?

I'm Glad, I'm Glad, I'm Glad

November 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

Texas Dwag – no anger issues here, I hate ALL dwags like you that think you know all things because your football team beat some sub-standard secheat teams this year; uf being the only exception ,and you won that game only because they couldn’t get out of their own way (on that day!). You don’t have to like it, and I could not care less if you do. The one real team you played this year beat the lovin’ snot out of you (again). Anyways, we cannot get the big uglies that we need to play the scheme – that’s it in a nutshell. You got the right guys to block, you can try to defend it any way you want, but you will NOT stop the run…why the hell do you think Okies won all those championships running the ball? your team couldn’t stop us the years we had the big lines – hell 2 of those games were decided by what, 3 points each? We don’t have the hosses right now, and as long as that’s the case we’ll keep losing to better teams, yes, like the dwags.

TechApp fan

November 26th, 2012
4:04 pm

Probably could have. But Lee did not not later look any better than TW…in that game.

1 4 GT

November 26th, 2012
4:05 pm

To grown man football….& all others that take joy in the deliberate attempt to injure a fellow competitor in a football game. I fully expect to lambasted & attacked for this comment. I played football for a good number of years. I played tackle both ways. I was coached to play hard…to hit hard….to hit clean….to never hit someone so as to even look like I was trying to injure a fellow competitor….that injuries would happen, but not to deliberately block or tackle someone with the intent to injure….I know y’all are screaming chop blocks, they are illegal, cut blocks are not & if there were any chop blocks called, it was appropriate they were called….The Ogletree tackle was not the way this game was meant to be played. Y’all can brag about it if it makes you happy. It was not the only questionable play by georgie. I can assure you that WWE style play would not be tolerated if I were the coach. I can also assure you that WWE style power slams would not be tolerated if I were the referee watching that play. The WWE at least has a padded mat and a ring that has built in bounce to it to lessen the impact on their performers (& that is what they are). The turf has no where near that much give to it. That particular player would have been banished from even being on the sidelines if I were a game official watching that happen. And then I would have warned the coach that if I saw it again, he would be banished from the sidelines too. The officials were ACC refs too. I guess they didn’t consider that unnecessary roughness. Well, I do. I don’t recall ever seeing a tackle done that way, even in a NFL game. Godhigh could have sustained a serious injury from being body slammed in that manner. That type play has no place in any football game anywhere.

PTC DAWG

November 26th, 2012
4:07 pm

Many GT fans like to call the UGA team members thugs. I find it funny that in any particular year, UGA and GT recruit many of the same kids. I guess if they choose GT, they are brilliant scholars and if they choose UGA they are thugs.

What gives?

GT Willie

November 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

14 GT; you sir, are a 3 star blogger at best. You appear to be the only GT fan who actually watches and evaluates the talent level of WWE.

Toadster

November 26th, 2012
4:26 pm

1 4 GT, as the saying goes “what comes around goes around”. Olgetree will get his and when he does I don’t to hear whining from the UGA faithful that populate our blogs.

Also, it’s funny how the same people trashed Nick Fairley when he did the same to Georgia players. There’s a word for it….oh yeah “Hypocrite”.

GTBob

November 26th, 2012
4:26 pm

What gives?

We seem to have a lot less players arrested, suspended, and kicked off the team then you do. Plus our players tend to act respectful out on the field.

TEXAS DAWG

November 26th, 2012
4:26 pm

@I’m glad,
Obviously you do care (and I’m touched that you do) otherwise you would not take the time to reply. Thank you for taking time out of your busy day. Oh by the way Oklahoma abandoned the wishbone many years ago. It was a new and very novel offense when Darryl Royal at Texas came up with it. Like every thing else when it was new it has hard to defend but as defensive coordinators learned more they shut it down and it pretty much went away. It never did lend itself to a comeback as it had very limited passing options. What has stood the test of time is a well balanced attack that features both running and passing. The set (Pro set, Power I) does not matter but the ability to do both does. Steve Spurrier and Florida got crushed by Nebraska when FL could not run the ball. Even a stubborn old coot like that added a power running game to his offense and went on to win the MNC. Look at him at SC now, as her runs a much more balanced attack these days.

High School Flexbone Coach

November 26th, 2012
4:42 pm

Listen up people, allow me to shed some light on the subject; “In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something “stand out” from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use.”

But wait, there’s more…

“Finding a successful gimmick for an otherwise mundane product is often an important part of the marketing process. For example, toothbrushes are often given various gimmicks, such as bright colors, easy-grip handles, or color-changing bristles so they appear more exciting to consumers. This is often done when trying to appeal to children or excitable adults, who often get more excited about the gimmick than the product.”

Looking back at the last six years, I feel pretty silly.

Toadster

November 26th, 2012
4:53 pm

“However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use.”

Sort of like your copy and paste post?

“This is often done when trying to appeal to children or excitable adults, who often get more excited about the gimmick than the product.”

Sort of like you?

Sorry, I could not resist.

GT Willie

November 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

like a fly in the ointment, Toadster…

dcp

November 26th, 2012
5:05 pm

It was atrocious on Saturday – no other way to spin it – we cannot sotp anyone.and it is not like they have not had Defensive stars play at Tech in the recent past – Michael Johnson, Derrick Morgan, Morgan Burnett are all starters on playoff caliber teams in Cincy and Green Bay. I know that none were recruited by CPJ. This bunch is terrible – other than Isiah Johnson and Jeremiah Attouchu – we have no one of relevance. You never know what you will get – Cross, Dieke, and Green were all supposed to be good Defensive recruits and have not shown a lot. It is embarassing when you have teams score at will like has been done this year.

Big Ol Stinger

November 26th, 2012
5:35 pm

I wish this season was over. We’ve got no business in Charlotte, and no business in a bowl game.

This team is like a terminal patient in the hospital. Just pull the plug and let’s move on to basketball and baseball.

And don’t tell me about extra practice. At this point these guys just need to be done, get away from it and think long and hard about whether they even want to play next year. They’re that bad.

JacketSteve

November 26th, 2012
6:01 pm

The experiment is over. Paul Johnson wanted to prove that his offense would work at a bigger level. That’s all he cares about, himself and his scheme not the school, alumni or the program. He’s partially right, the offense will work at this level (ACC isn’t big boy football though) but only against lesser teams; Uva, BC, Duke, MD.

The scheme won big with NFL players recruited by a different coach, but no NFL type players want to play in this scheme. These guys just didn’t want to sit out a year and transfer. And as great as Jonathan Dwyer was at Tech, he was a 6th round pick b/c everyone knew that he would have to learn how to play real football before getting on the field.

You’ll never get top O-linemen to play here b/c they’ll never learn pass blocking so our O-line gets pushed around when they play real competition. You’ll never get a real defense here b/c they have to practice against our gimmick offense and will never learn skills to get to the NFL. If this scheme was so great, other schools would be doing it. No one is immitating this offense. Why do we have to be the guinea pig school for this stubborn coach. The only national recognition Paul Johnson will bring us is an extended losing streak in bowl games. End this now. With the right coach we could do some good things. Look at Vandy. That’s a great academic school, and they’re winning games in the SEC. The only team Tech might be able to beat in the SEC this year is Auburn.

COWBOY

November 26th, 2012
6:09 pm

Rooty Tooty I’m Glad, I’m Glad, I’m Glad Buzz 2011 TechLB Tech1986 Just Saying Milk Bone Underwear

Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets…

Always has been Always will be the Georgia Bulldogs BITCH.

TEXAS DAWG

November 26th, 2012
6:12 pm

DCP, Big Ol Stinger, and Jacket Steve are GT fans who have taken off the Rose colored glasses and are taking a long, hard, critical, and realistic view of the GT football program. From their comments they don’t like what they see and are not willing to bury their heads in the sand. Kudo’s to them. UGA had to do the same thing will Ray Goff and Jim Donan. Alabama had to do it prior to Saban. You may not like what you see when you do a critical exam but the is a necessary evil before the healing process can start. Sometimes surgery is needed to remove the diseased part (coaching staff) so the patient as a whole can heal and recover to full strenght.

GTEnvE'12'13

November 26th, 2012
6:52 pm

In the short term: Jackets need to play with intensity and sheer “want to” to have a chance Saturday
In the long term: We need a coach (CPJ or otherwise) that can handle the 6* phases of Georgia Tech football
1)Academics (you have a minimal chance of getting to the pros as a CFB recruit anywhere but a great chance of success with a degree from Tech, 58% graduation rate is unacceptable in my book regardless of the majors offered *I say this as a tech graduate)
2) Offense (CPJ is handling that to a certain extent)
3) DEFENSE, plain and simple it wins championships (see the our ppg and Oppg in ‘90 compared to recent seasons)
4) Special Teams, the name implies their game-breaking nature (really thought coach Walk’s hire would have shown more in games this year. Golden’s returns don’t negate awful kick coverage)
5) Recruiting (I like to think of this like cooking, a great chef can make a good meal with awful ingredients, but what a difference great ingredients can make)
6) Winning Attitude, that “can’t be beat” mentality that brings intensity to every down despite what the scoreboard says (haven’t seen much of this since nesbitt *see 2009 vs. FSU)

Quite a ramble with tons of parentheses, but I guess what I’m saying is CPJ has got to step up and act like a complete head coach or we need to find the John Wooden of college football

TechLB

November 26th, 2012
7:10 pm

@Texas Dawg – Did you read my entire comment Sir?

“It doesn’t really matter though, it’s not an excuse for mediocre recruiting, player development, coaching and play. Georgia Tech is better than this.”

And you are again off base on your assumptions. I reiterate, some of the schools you name have liberal arts degree options and therefore have a wider base to recruit from. AGAIN it’s not an excuse and yes, some of them have done better than we have both in recruiting and executing on the field, especially lately.

For example: Stanford offers three undergraduate degree — Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Bachelor of Sciences (B.S.), and Bachelor of Arts and Sciences (B.A.S.) – with degrees such as Art History, Art Practice, Film and Media Studies, History, Music, Philosophy, and on. Options for more creative, less math oriented students.

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/academic/programs/humanities_sciences.html

Notre Dame offers the College of Arts and Letters which includes these degree options:

Africana Studies
American Studies
Anthropology
Arabic Studies
Art History
Chinese
Classics
Design
Economics
English
Film, Television, and Theatre
French and Francophone Studies
German
Greek and Roman Civilization
History
International Economics
Irish Language and Literature
Italian Studies
Japanese
Mathematics
Medieval Studies
Music
Philosophy
Philosophy and Theology (joint major)
Political Science
Program of Liberal Studies
Psychology
Romance Languages and Literatures
Russian
Sociology
Spanish
Studio Art
Theology
Self-Designed Majors

And the list goes on… Yes GT is difficult academically but AGAIN that’s no excuse – We agree on that. Where I am pushing back is your attempt to lessen the degree earned by Georgia Tech graduates and the sacrifices we all made to earn the same and to insist there are courses to hide weak students just for the sake of athletics. You cannot hide at Georgia Tech. You might make it through a couple of semesters but you will not make it through 4 years if you’re weak academically.

Regardless, it’s no excuse for the poor state of our program. Let’s agree to disagree and good luck to UGA against ‘Bama.

Jacketnation Deflation

November 26th, 2012
7:21 pm

If we had a school of poultry science and a school of food science, we would have more interest from five star recruits.

Jacketnation Deflation

November 26th, 2012
7:22 pm

I hope the Tide beats the dawg mess out of UGA.

1 4 GT

November 26th, 2012
7:30 pm

TechLB….thanks for backing me up. You listed several subjects; i gave numbers. Over 170 courses of study at Georgie for a B.A. diploma. 36 courses of study for a B.S. diploma at Tech. 36 for a B.S…..47 for a Masters diploma….30 for a doctorate=113 diplomas total. Turfgrass Management at Georgie. What’s to know = aerate the soil, spread the seed of choice, spread some fertilizer and lime & maybe some chicken droppings, water nightly (prevents the sun baking the seeds b/4 germination) and wait=tons of excitement.

Bill Lewis

November 26th, 2012
7:40 pm

You UGA fans just don’t get it. THE game is in Charlotte. Tech had that in the bag before the game. For the Doggiestyles, the TECH game was imperative. Lose to Tech and your season is over. For TECH, it didn’t matter. Now, if you want to talk WWE points, UGA 3 Tech 0. Other than that, we win in Charlotte, and Saban spanks your Butts in Atlanta.
See ya in BDStadium next year. We’ll install the rings and the mats just in case Ogletree’s not in jail by then.

TEXAS DAWG

November 26th, 2012
8:09 pm

@Tech LB
Sure I read your whole statement. But as DCP stated above as recently as 3-4 years ago you had athletes (Derrick Morgan, Morgan Burnett etc). What has happened in those few years other than Paul Johnson. As far as degrees go almost all poster on here (that are loyal to Tech) do is describe UGA degrees as worthless.One pointed out a degree in animal husbandry as a crib course until I described the biochemisty, and gentetics that this degree entails (I got no reply but you can look back on the 1st or 2nd page from last night to get the details). We can spend all night in a pi$$ing contest over degrees, but without a doubt the last few years, GT football has taken a nose dive. I don’t think Tech has all of a sudden changed what they offer. As Jacket Steve pointed out, no player with any ambition to move on to the next level (and almost every one on them thinks he can no matter how delusional that may sound) wants to play in an antiquated system. It is not the degrees, or else as was stated above, UGA and GT would not be in a battle for may of the same athletes. Only a couple of years ago many would have gone to Tech because Chan Gailey(even if he was not a great coach) ran a system that most players were familiar with. If Calvin Johnson was being recuited today, do you honestly think Tech would have a snowballs chance of landing him. Are the degrees being offered to the incoming recruiting class of 2013 different than were offered when Calvin Johnson enrolled?

WnE

November 27th, 2012
12:43 am

re:
chas_jacket
November 26th, 2012
8:38 am

The recruiting problem isn’t solely academics, its more of the limited, science focused majors offered. Not sure cpj is the answer, but next year with vad at the helm will be telling. As far as the defense, still think we should have let kallon play this year – from what 5150 has said, he is going to be at Tech 4 years regardless so why RS?

I actually think we have a better chance against FSU. They will not have nearly the prep time as ugag and they are not a disciplined defense.
______________

You’re friggin’ LATE by about 35 years!

In the old days Industrial mgt. majors took the same Chemistry class or Biology class as Engr. majors and they took the same Calculus Classes for 3 qtrs. that the engineering majors took.

BUT NOW:

Our players major in Business Admin, and they take Earth & Atmospheric Science (Earth Science) instead of Biology or Chemistry. The EAS sciecne course is NOT accepted by engineering majors at GT.

For Math they take SURVEY of Calculus & finite math and one again UNLIKE the “old days” this Math sequence is only used by Business Admin or Econ majors and is not accepted for credit by Engineering majors at GT.

The GT you describe doesn’t exist anymore for our FB players, our FB players in 2012 are taking a more traditional BUSINESS ADMIN curriculum than what GT FB players faced as IM majors back in the days of Bill Curry.

The Academics excuses should cease, but schmucks like yourself won’t show enough class to stop blaming academics and should instead start blaming CPJ’s poor Recruiting.

I don’t think that Earth & Atmospheric Science for 2 semesters in a traditional Business Admin curricula are the “science focused majors” that is keeping GT from Recruiting better FB players.

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TampaDawg

November 27th, 2012
10:06 am

Toadster – “Also, it’s funny how the same people trashed Nick Fairley when he did the same to Georgia players. There’s a word for it….oh yeah “Hypocrite”.”

I am sorry that you felt you had to bring up a situation as an analogy that isn’t comparable to the topic at hand. The stuff with Nick Fairly had nothing to do with “body slam tackles” at all. Feel free to watch that 2010 UGA/AU game (obviously, it would be for the first time for you) and you will notice all the late hits and cheap shots after a play at Murray’s knees. Not hardly the same considering that Ogletree’s tackles ALL came before the whistle. You can complain about the tackles all you want but they were all legal. No facemasks, horse collars, helmet to helmet, chop block stuff or anything. He got air under the guy and threw him down. But please don’t compare Ogletree to Late Hit Fairly when you don’t know the situation.

TampaDawg

November 27th, 2012
10:14 am

You know why EVERY debate between UGA and Tech fans gets into the pointless, hopeless, irrelevant topic of academics? Because it’s Tech’s crutch. When Tech has their good years, we never hear their fans whining about academics then. But oh let them lose a few and it’s all we hear. If recruiting is that difficult for you “based on your curriculum and admissions standards”, then here’s a thought, get out of the FBS and go FCS, take UGA off your schedule, or better yet, get out of football altogether.

techman

November 28th, 2012
12:11 pm

Coach better figure out that we need 5-6 four star recruits every year to compete with everyone else.One 4,and bunch of 3 and 2 star guys produce the 40-50th rated classes every year which yields 6 win seasons.

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