Tech’s bowl options

By making the ACC Championship game, Georgia Tech’s bowl options have probably been reduced to four.

The ACC’s contracts with its partner bowls stipulate that the ACC championship game loser can fall no farther than the Sun Bowl, which sits third in the selection order for ACC teams after the BCS bowl games.

Tech is likely to be a candidate even if it loses to Georgia Saturday and then to Florida State in the title game, which would drop the Yellow Jackets to 6-7. Last year, UCLA received a waiver from the NCAA to participate in a bowl with a 6-7 record. The Bruins entered the Pac-12 title game with a 6-6 record and fell below .500 – the standard for bowl eligibility with a loss to Oregon.

Tech’s options:

If Tech beats Florida State in the ACC championship, it will go to the Orange Bowl.

If it loses, the Yellow Jackets can be selected by the Chick-fil-A Bowl, the Russell Athletic Bowl in Orlando (formerly the Champs Sports Bowl) and the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Tech’s destination last season.

At this point, the ACC bowl-eligible teams are Florida State, Clemson, Tech, Duke and N.C. State. Virginia Tech and Wake Forest could gain bowl eligibility with wins Saturday over Virginia and Vanderbilt, respectively.

Should Clemson beat South Carolina, the Tigers would be a strong possibility to be selected as an at-large team for a BCS bowl, as was the case with Virginia Tech last season. Clemson is ranked No. 11 in the BCS standings released Sunday.

If Clemson isn’t chosen for a BCS game, the Tigers would be an overwhelming favorite to be taken by the Chick-fil-A Bowl as they would be the only ranked team besides Florida State in the ACC.

Tech’s candidacy will be influenced by its performance against Georgia. In 2008, Tech received a Chick-fil-A Bowl invitation despite not making the ACC title game in part because of its win over the Bulldogs.

“I think the thing that Tech needs to do is keep winning,” Chick-fil-A Bowl scout Gary Floyd, who attended Tech’s win over Duke. “If they keep winning, they’re playing themselves into a pretty good bowl.”

The other ACC candidates:

N.C. State – 6-5 after losing to Clemson. The Wolfpack finish with Boston College, which grants them a pretty good shot at ending at 7-5. However, fans appear to be lukewarm on the season in general and coach Tom O’Brien in particular.

Duke – 6-5 after losing to Tech. The Blue Devils haven’t been bowling since 1994, so they have some novelty, but they’ve lost four of their past five and have given up 40-plus in all four.

Wake Forest – 5-6 after losing to Notre Dame. Demon Deacons don’t have much of a résumé – their best win was over North Carolina in the second game of the season. They’ll need to beat Vanderbilt to gain eligibility, which is anything but a sure thing.

Virginia Tech – 5-6 after beating Boston College in overtime. It’s the Hokies’ worst season since 1992. It’s hard to imagine much bowl-trip enthusiasm for fans this year. Their best win? Possibly the season-opening win over Tech.

73 comments Add your comment

gtne80

November 19th, 2012
10:59 am

A bowl game for this team seems like a bit of a mixed blessing. Good to see them get rewarded for hanging in there and making the best of a bad season. Also good to see the consecutive bowl streak stay alive. Otherwise, it’s hard to see the Tech fan base getting energized to travel to a bowl this year.

BuzzKill

November 19th, 2012
10:59 am

The ACC is terrible

gtne80

November 19th, 2012
10:59 am

first? really?

gtne80

November 19th, 2012
11:01 am

I guess this is the karma for the bowls that line up for their conference tie-ins. When the ACC has such a sucky year, the prospects for a good game are pretty low.

BuzzKill

November 19th, 2012
11:01 am

Why would any bowl other than the sunbowl (required) select Tech when they know their fans do not travel.

gtne80

November 19th, 2012
11:05 am

Looks like it’s El Paso again. FSU – Orange. Clempson – Chick-fil-A. NCState/VT – Orlando.

Good thing for Tech that the bowl tie-in won’t allow us to fall further. If VT and Wake can get eligible, we’d be ripe for another trip to the Emerald Nuts bowl or for the Blue Carpet.

Ken Sugiura

November 19th, 2012
11:17 am

obviously, maryland and unc being ineligible has made the pool pretty shallow. regardless, a thin lot.

gtlinz

November 19th, 2012
11:24 am

The bowl is needed to bring Vad along … I like our prospects with Vad next year and some time to straighten out the D. I suspect that Julian Barnett was the D player that was able to make sense of Groh’s schemes and have us in position sometimes to make plays. An offseason with Kelley will like bear some improvement on D. We need the bowl game.

GSU1991

November 19th, 2012
11:27 am

Really? Well, have to let things play out as they will and see what happens —- remember: “on any given day”. But frankly, (1) will take near perfect game to defeat UGA; (2) FSU has so much speed and, yes, if we are honest, skilled position players, Hope is GT does not suffer embarassment.

IMHO, no team with losing record should go bowling. No team wit .500 record should go bowling. Let’s reduce the number of bowls by at least half, and requre all participants to have at least 7 out of 11 wins.

Goldenrod

November 19th, 2012
11:29 am

No question in my mind, Coach Johnson has this team playing out of its mind since the BYU loss. With Vad Lee starting I have no doubt we can beat the leghumpers and Creminoles.

BCS Bound Jackets! THWG

carolinajacket

November 19th, 2012
11:34 am

It would be interesting to get lined up against Vandy. They are similar to Tech in many ways, but are playing really good football this year. I suspect that their coach will be the second one from the Vandy-UT game to have a new job in the near future. But his will be with a gigantic raise.

BuzzKill is right, except

November 19th, 2012
11:36 am

Tech fans WILL travel if and when the team shows it is performing well. The Sun Bowl is a great destination if you do not allow yourself to venture sough of I-10 (if you can see Mexico, you are too close …. back away, cautiously but quickly). But, nobody wants to go o Emerald Bowl, and once you’ve been to Idaho in winter, that is enough to last for long, long time.

Coach Z

November 19th, 2012
11:38 am

@ GSU1991. Did you watch the 60 minutes report Sunday on college football? Under your opinion, a lot of college teams would go further into bankruptcy without the payout of attending a bowl game. If anything, more bowl games and lesser records would be incorporated into a newer business model.
BTW, for anybody who did watch this report is the David Braine of Michigan AD the former Braine of GT?

Todd

November 19th, 2012
11:46 am

The ACC is god-awful. None of them really should play in a bowl game as they are likely to get embarrased – badly…

CT_Jacket

November 19th, 2012
11:50 am

David Brandon is the Michigan AD.

Just Saying

November 19th, 2012
11:51 am

if FSU is so great then how did they lose to NC State? They can be beaten, The game isn’t in Tampa.

With Vad’s family and friends in North Carolna, the offense can do this

Delbert D.

November 19th, 2012
11:51 am

Beno made some memorable plays in addition to the pass reception for a crucial first down. On a play to the right side, he pancaked one Duke linebacker twice.

CT_Jacket

November 19th, 2012
12:00 pm

I went to Tech, as a Co-op, from 88-94, and this is the worst I have ever seen this conference play. The ACC still gets great representation in the draft and in the Pro Bowl, but it’s not getting done at the BCS level. If the talent is there, then that speaks to the lack of coaching. If you compare coaching salaries, the ACC pays a lot less than the SEC. Of course, most of the schools are significantly smaller too. Johnson is one of the highest paid coaches, if not the highest, in the ACC, but would be 10th in the SEC. I think that the money they have brought in the last few year has increased the separation of salaries. And it’s not just the head coaches, you have to consider the assistant salaries too.

Coach Z

November 19th, 2012
12:06 pm

Thanks CT, I didn’t hear the voice over correctly.

Jacket Man

November 19th, 2012
12:11 pm

If GA Tech loses both games, then there’s a chance they may not go to ANY bowl because they would end up being the Coastal Champion with a 6-7 record, and now, if there are enough eligible teams otherwise, Georgia Tech is out. There are no more “waivers” for teams that finish 6-7 after losing a conference title game, like UCLA received last year. This would put a 5-7 Wake Forest team in the Bowl (unless the ACC can pull a rabbit out of a hat).

Ramblin Wreck

November 19th, 2012
12:11 pm

Best thing about the bowl game = extra practice time. Good way to continue Vad’s development. I wonder if CPJ will hire a new defensive coordinator before or after the bowl. If before, I wonder if the new DC would be involved at all. I doubt it, but who knows.

not looking past UGA

November 19th, 2012
12:17 pm

Tech may beat the future UPS drivers if three things occur. 1 error free game 2 luck 3 UGA looking ahead.

Freddie Blassie

November 19th, 2012
12:39 pm

RW has it right; bowl games add valuable time to evaluate players for next year.
El Paso is nice but two years in a row is a chore.
If we have Divine intervention and win against both Georgie and Free Shoes U., we don’t need no stinking defensive coordinator.

KD

November 19th, 2012
1:04 pm

Regardless of record, do you think the Russell Athletic Bowl committee would like to have a team on the field wearing their uniforms? Hmmm, who could that be?

Born2Buzz

November 19th, 2012
1:29 pm

Wow, the ACC really IS awful. Only 5 bowl eligible teams, maybe 6, and at best three of them only 7-5.
If I had my pick, we would do as KD suggest…Orlando!!!

Ken Sugiura

November 19th, 2012
1:45 pm

Jacket Man – it’s my understanding Tech can still petition for (and receive) a waiver. i know there are new rules about bowl eligibility, but i believe those rules only apply for bowls with at-large spots.
KD – that thought has occurred to me also.

CT_Jacket

November 19th, 2012
1:48 pm

I also hate that these bowl games keep changing their names every other year. The banners on the Wardlaw Center, if they are still there, are probably getting out of hand. Why can’t they keep the base name and just add the sponsor name before it? I prefer the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl over just the Chick-Fil-A Bowl. And no more dot com names…dang nab it.

don

November 19th, 2012
1:49 pm

And the sec has 3 0-7 teams. Yeah that’s a power conference. Not to forget bama’s loss to a big 12 team, one year removed.

don

November 19th, 2012
1:54 pm

the only reason ga is where they are is for a second straight year, they didn’t have to play lsu or alabama and on top of that, sc had to play ga lsu and fla in consecutive weeks. ga had the easiest sec schedule ever, playing to 0-7 conf teams.

SansWorld

November 19th, 2012
2:21 pm

There is no downside to going to a bowl game. It is not a about the fans, GT fans are a fickle as anyone, but going to a bowl game is not about pleasing them.

The primary benefit is to reward to the players. Go to even a place like El Paso or Shreveport, and the Host will treat you like royalty. Go to Florida and it is even better. This is the one chance for a player to get a “Gift” without the NCAA breathing down your neck. A regular season road trip is just a grind. But this will be something special that the players can remember.

2nd of course is the extra practice time.

SansWorld

November 19th, 2012
2:29 pm

I don’t the outrage that some have about there being too many bowl games.
Players, schools and host cities all benifit from it to some extent.
Sure a 6-7 UCLA team against a 6-6 Illinois team is not compleling. i won’t watch it, but they can still play as far as I am concerned.
There were a lot of lower tier bowls with great games last year.

gtne80

November 19th, 2012
2:38 pm

@SansWorld – My sentiments exactly. Not every bowl game is for the National Championship. There’s nothing sacrosanct about putting on a football game and calling it a bowl. If you don’t want to watch a game, don’t watch it. But evidently enough people watch them on TV and in person for these “minor” bowls to believe that they are profitable. No harm, no foul.

Joe

November 19th, 2012
2:49 pm

I just hope an invitation to the Toilet Bowl is enough to save Paul Johnson’s job.

Dadgum.....

November 19th, 2012
3:08 pm

Ken, you may want to add that GT may not get a bowl at all if they finish with a losing record. The NCAA has said they rant granting waivers line they did with UCLA last year. Have you heard anything on this. ?

DawginNY

November 19th, 2012
3:11 pm

Congratuations on making it to the ACC title game. Your defense has actually played much better since letting Groh go. Playing a Paul Johnson coached team always has me worried. The first 29 minutes of our game with Georgia Southern tells me that Tech does not have to play perfect to beat us. The option is very tough to defend for a front 7 predicated on getting up the field. If your offense has a decent day, Murray better not have an off day or we’re in trouble.

old dog

November 19th, 2012
3:17 pm

Stack it up heavy on our o-line…..and anything can happen. I want the rivalry renewed, and it can be. We just do not need to lose to ya’ll this year……not for the obvious chanpionship connotations, but just (and solely) ‘coz ya’ll ain’t too good this year and anybody losing to ya’ll ain’t been too good…..so if we lost to ya’ll it would be a SURE SIGIN that we just ain’t that good. Remember, we beat one (1) good team this year (Florida) and thats it…………..

Matthew

November 19th, 2012
3:42 pm

Tech will receive a waiver. That really isn’t an issue. What is at play is there won’t be enough 6 win teams eligible to fill 70 spots this year (only 62 right now, with only 68 or 69 projected). This means one or two 5-7 teams will play in a bowl this year

Reebok

November 19th, 2012
4:02 pm

Even if Tech loses all 3 games…to Georgia, to FSU and then the bowl game…it’s still 3 appearances on national television and several weeks of letting Vad get better at running the offense. I don’t like the idea of finishing (yikes) 6-8, but the additional practice time is valuable. And besides, we’ve got a puncher’s chance at beating Georgia and a good shot of upsetting FSU…they hate defending the option.

USCfan in GA

November 19th, 2012
4:06 pm

Its a shame that a 6-5 team could possibly go to a BCS bowl. The a she -she is terrible.

Island Jacket

November 19th, 2012
4:25 pm

Wouldn’t it be nice if the ACC dominates the SEC this weekend….

GT Fan

November 19th, 2012
4:33 pm

Ken ….

VT is NOT bowl eligible unless they beat UVA on Saturday.

GT Fan

November 19th, 2012
4:34 pm

Gonna be hilarious when GT pulls out the W this Saturday.

Griffin Jim

November 19th, 2012
4:42 pm

My guess is that Tech will beat FSU. Tech should score plenty. Tech’s competitive level is very high. They play to win. Look at their photos. These are men. This will serve them well against Georgia and FSU. I believe that Tech has turned a corner. They have developed play-makers. This has become a team that believes in itself. Watch this play out.

Dadgum.....

November 19th, 2012
5:07 pm

As long as FSU still has a fighting chance at the BCS NC game they should roll easily over GT. If they lose to Florida then perhaps a letdown will occur. If USC beats ND and FSU beats Florida look out.

SansWorld

November 19th, 2012
5:16 pm

“As long as FSU still has a fighting chance at the BCS NC game they should roll easily over GT.”

This did not stop them from losing to NCST.

awesomeb

November 19th, 2012
5:31 pm

I hate to say it, but this ACC-CG thing is the worse thing that could have happened to GT and CPJ (in the long term). We beat 3 mediocre ACC teams in a row and suddenly everyone thinks we can play with the # 3 and #9 teams in the country. It will be an embarrassment and will hurt recruiting. We will be right back to where we were 3 weeks ago after the BYU loss – dazed and confused.
And you gotta love the Chic-Fil-A people – “just keep on winning.” Yea? You don’t say? That’s a whole lot easier said than done against two top 10 teams.

gt4ever

November 19th, 2012
6:12 pm

@Griffin Jim

LOL…

GO JACKETS

November 19th, 2012
7:02 pm

guess no one in the media was able to get CPJ on the phone today for comments…have to wait until his press conference Tuesday…hope Orwin is okay,,,

Freddie Blassie

November 19th, 2012
7:02 pm

The laugh’s on you gt4e (Brenda).

Stick with interior decorating, Brenda.

GO JACKETS

November 19th, 2012
7:05 pm

CPJ did fire Al Groh which did help..after the season CPJ needs to keep evaluating other assistant coaches..For one, the special teams was a complete disaster until Tanner came along. Anyone realize how many points we lost because we had no one that could kick a field goal? Should of had someone in place by the Miami game. But no,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,