Tech notes: NCAA experts say Miami should self-impose
1. If Georgia Tech defeats Duke on Saturday, it’s possible the Yellow Jackets could win the ACC Coastal Division title on Sunday.
With a win over South Florida on Saturday, Miami will become bowl-eligible. The school, which is under NCAA investigation, has said it will make an announcement regarding its decision on a self-imposed postseason ban after it becomes eligible. Last year, Miami made its announcement the day after it became bowl-eligible, also after a win over South Florida.
If Miami removes itself from the postseason, it will be ineligible to play for the ACC title. In that situation, a Tech win over Duke would give the Jackets the Coastal title with a 5-3 league record and send them to the ACC title game in Charlotte on Dec. 1.
Two NCAA rules experts said it would be in Miami’s interest to take the ban to show its contrition to the NCAA’s committee on infractions.
“I would suppose that they’re probably in line for a multiple-year postseason ban, so it might make sense at this point to get it over with and take it now,” said John Infante, a former NCAA compliance director at two colleges and the author of the acclaimed Bylaw Blog.
“I just think it’d be the best thing for them to do,” said David Ridpath, also a former compliance director at two schools and a sports-administration professor at Ohio University. “I think you have to look more to the future.”
The decision is a gamble either way. There is no way to know conclusively if the infractions committee will give Miami another postseason ban if the school doesn’t do so itself. However, if Miami accepts a bowl bid this year, which would enable the Hurricanes to play in the ACC championship game if it beats Duke on Nov. 24, it’s possible Miami could have a stronger team next year or 2014 be banned from the postseason. Last season, Ohio State was under investigation, but, believing it wouldn’t receive a bowl ban, accepted an invitation to the Gator Bowl.
But the Buckeyes did receive a ban and, as a result, this season’s team, which is 10-0 and ranked No. 6 in the Associated Press poll, has no chance to play in the postseason.
“Ohio State’s experience, it wouldn’t surprise me if that was playing into (Miami’s) decision,” Infante said.
2. Tech quarterback Vad Lee and Duke quarterback Sean Renfree have strong ties to their Saturday opponent. Renfree committed to Tech in 2007, recruited by former coach Chan Gailey. After his hire, coach Paul Johnson made a call to Renfree, a pro-style quarterback.
“I said, ‘This is probably not going to fit you,’” Johnson said. “He said, ‘Yeah, I know.’ I said, ‘Whatever we can do to help you (let us know). I wish you luck.’ He’s had a great career. Made a good choice.”
Lee grew up in Durham, N.C., and developed a close relationship with Duke coach David Cutcliffe and assistants.
“Vad was over here a lot,” Cutcliffe said on the ACC coaches teleconference. “The (high) school is not very far away. Just used to sit and talk.”
Cutcliffe spoke with fondness and respect for Lee, who said Tuesday that “I love the coaching staff there.”
“He’s a fine young man, fine family,” Cutcliffe said. “And, I’ll be honest with you, I’m very proud of Vad and what he’s accomplished.”
3. Kickers David Scully and Justin Moore will not play because of injuries, meaning that walk-on Chris Tanner will play for the second game in a row. Tanner took kickoffs, field goals and extra points Saturday in the win over North Carolina. He made both of his field-goal attempts and all eight extra points.
Safety Jemea Thomas was held out of practice Wednesday with an undisclosed injury. Johnson said he expected him to return Thursday. Johnson maintained his stance that offensive tackle Will Jackson probably will not play with a shoulder injury.
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GT-UT
November 14th, 2012
9:29 pm
First??
1 4 GT
November 14th, 2012
9:32 pm
If uMiami looks @ OSU and their case….and they are supposed to be better in’13 & ‘14, I think the choice would be obvious. Self impose no bowls this year in hopes of leniency from the NCAA. But then again, who knows what those gumballs will do. Either way, it is what it is. And I have no love lost for uMiami
GT-UT
November 14th, 2012
9:35 pm
YES!!! Go Jackets. Good stuff Ken. Living 800 miles away and keeping up with the Ramblin Wreck. Reading everyday.
To you CPJ haters, after 68 pts, what say you? CPJ is the right guy. Opposing fans FEAR him. Big time…trust me, I run into them all the time!
Marine Jacket
November 14th, 2012
9:36 pm
Hope they take the ban this year.
Go Jackets!!!!
GT-UT
November 14th, 2012
9:36 pm
If we had to vacate the ACC championship game over a couple items of clothing, then Miami should self-impose. This schizophrenic NCAA drives me crazy!
btgt69
November 14th, 2012
9:39 pm
Ken,,, thanks another great report
Ken Sugiura
November 14th, 2012
9:44 pm
thanks, GT-UT and btgt69.
and well done, GT-UT.
GT-UT
November 14th, 2012
9:52 pm
I guess I’m still in disbelief over the fact we have a chance at the ACC Championship. Like Coach says, let it play out and see what happens. That said, I think we beat Florida State. I recall a dumb-founded Bobby Bowden trying to explain to the reporter-ette at halftime how GT was scoring in one or two plays. LOL. Recall Dwyer breaking it wide open up the middle then out running the entire FSU Defense to the house!!
George Stein
November 14th, 2012
9:58 pm
I always love the retrospectives on recruiting. There’s so much mystery around it that hearing the stories about it always interest me. Thanks, Ken.
White&Gold
November 14th, 2012
10:00 pm
I recall a low pitch to Roddy Jones in which an FSU defender picked the ball up and Nesbitt ripped it right out of his hands. We won that game 49-44 BTW. We’d probably need to score more to beat them this year.
yellowfever
November 14th, 2012
10:03 pm
Do we really want to play Florida State in an ACC championship game. My gosh they would score 70 points on our defense and then we would have to listen to everybody say we shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
GTGirl
November 14th, 2012
10:04 pm
Thanks for all the great articles Ken! Keep ‘em coming.
Things are looking better and better for us. Our basketball team is 2-0 and our football team is back on track too. GO Jackets! Beat the devil outta duke!
Biff Pocoroba
November 14th, 2012
10:05 pm
Basketball team looked terrible tonght. Couldn’t hit a 3 to save their lives. If they don’t learn how to get the ball inside to the big guys, it will be a long season. They looked like they did when Favors was here but no one would ever pass the ball to him. CPJ was at the game tonight and he said that he was happy that GT Joe finally convinced him to play Vad. Wished that he would have listened to him earlier but he thinks that he can still save the season and beat Georgia.
Addicted
November 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
What really sucks this year is that we are 1 OT loss against either Miami or VPI from being the legitimate contender. Both were games we should have won.
And I really doubt the MTSU or BYU disasters (although BYU is a legitimately good team, which like us has lost really close games) would have happened if we didn’t hae the dysfunctions we are seeing.
Add a legitimate defense and we can be a really good team. Al Groh was a good defensive coach, but his schemes were far too complicated. I thought that with some continuity on defense from last years the players would have got it, but it was evident this wasn’t true from all the confusion on the field.
Hopefully next year our defensive coaches give us a defense which can at the very least keep us in a game.
yellowfever
November 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
lose to UGA, lose to Fla. State, lose bowl game. 6 & 8 record. Please spare me the grief.
gt40pinhd
November 14th, 2012
10:07 pm
got my fingers crossed but first, let’s concentrate on duke. big hurdle to overcome; they are playing great.
Ken Sugiura
November 14th, 2012
10:09 pm
thanks, george. i do, too. during recruiting, you’re only getting one side, and that’s from a 17-year-old high school kid who usually isn’t going to stray far from the script.
just the truth
November 14th, 2012
10:15 pm
Yellow fever, there are other teams to pledge your allegiance to. Why don’t you find one. UGA comes to mine!
ToeMeetsLeather
November 14th, 2012
10:18 pm
Renfree was probably the QB that would have gotten Gailey out of the 7-5 with a loss to the mutts rut. Oh well, just another one of life’s “what ifs”.
Be kinda neat to play the Noles since we see them so seldom with this new division format. That was always one of my favorite games, even though it took a while to get the monkey off of our back and get a W over them.
Silly Mutts
November 14th, 2012
10:23 pm
Hoops will be fine…it is early and they look better than they did all last season. I could be pessimistic as I watched on ESPN3, let when GT was up 3 and came back and they were up 15. I don’t know if they scored the rest of the time I watched….like 11 minutes till the end. Trust me, if you can survive that you will be just fine!
I love Jan Kemp
November 14th, 2012
10:32 pm
Another great article Ken, the”U” SHOULD self impose judging by Ohio St. But, as another blogger said, you never know WHAT they might do. Anyone ever saw the ESPN30 show on them? they should have to vacate ALL their titles after the way they were bragging at all the rules they broke!
GT-UT
November 14th, 2012
10:32 pm
Nesbitt ripping the ball BACK out of the hands of the defender. I forgot all about that. Man that guy was a warrior!
Hope Miami bows out for us after we beat Duke. Lets focus this Saturday and go stunn FSU!!
Jacket Detective
November 14th, 2012
10:33 pm
A little disappointed by the basketball game but I guess they played down to the competition.
My church was worried they were going to run out of turkey so I decided to go to the game instead without a ticket.
Walking up the the arena, I asked a guy about to go in if he had an extra ticket.
He said yes and I bought it from him for $5.
Great seat, mid court, half way up.
When you are the Jacket Detective, u have friends around.
We’ll find our shooting touch.
Saving it for Uga maybe.
I love Jan Kemp
November 14th, 2012
10:35 pm
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William Casey
November 14th, 2012
10:57 pm
I’d like to see the Jackets focus on beating Duke. Save the speculation for later.
Red Black
November 14th, 2012
11:02 pm
Gonna be funny when duke beats you.
GT TN
November 14th, 2012
11:08 pm
@ Red Black..going to be funnier when 2 of the 3 lose Org, KState and ND then GT beats you and keeps you out of National Champ
1 4 GT
November 14th, 2012
11:22 pm
GT TN….man wouldn’t that be sweet? Your scenario plays out this weekend & there little ole Georgie sits there @ 10 & 1 & we come in on the 24th & lay a slobberknocker on ‘em (in their house) to keep them outa the MNCG! SWEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!! GOOOOO JACKETS THWGeorgie
1 4 GT
November 14th, 2012
11:23 pm
Well, a fella can hope huh?
fuzzybee78
November 14th, 2012
11:36 pm
I would love a shot at FSU with Vad at the helm on a neutral field. If NCST can beat em then we can too. Lots of there guys have never seen the TO. I guarantee Jimbo wants no part of defending this thing with Lee at QB. Its a “no win” for FSU if we just make em look bad and put up points. Sadly its a disaster for the league if we could find a way to win— what the hell, do it anyway!
GIVE ME A BREAK
November 14th, 2012
11:36 pm
Just beat Duke and if Duke beats Miami then problem solved.
fuzzybee78
November 14th, 2012
11:49 pm
Basketball is on the rise. Tonight was an off shooting night and PC fouled us a lot. Good news is Poole bro signed, “5 star” point guard coming to play with the Jackets. The new kid from Marist looks good too. See full article on ajc recruiting.
Really pleased with what I see of CBG. Embracing the past, Cremins, solid coach, working hard, getting the students back, recruiting really well. Feels like its 1982 again and 1985 is coming!
Hayseed Dixie
November 14th, 2012
11:49 pm
Nice comments from Cutcliffe, it’s a shame guys like that aren’t more rewarded in the college game.
I’m proud of these kids in the white and gold, too. It takes a lot to matriculate at the Institute while playing D 1 ball. When you consider some of their circumstances it becomes even more amazing. It’s a very American thing.
I like the Ws too, but as I get on in years the pride in the Institute and the stories some of these kids have just takes over.
yeller bug
November 15th, 2012
12:07 am
It’s been a different kind of year—VT has 4 losses and may not make a bowl game, Duke is already bowl eligible and controls their own destiny in the Coastal division and we’ve given up 40 or more points in more games this season (with two games to go in which we may give up 40 or more) than in anytime in our team’s history and yet…..we have a chance to make it to ACCCG. Maybe we can be the Obama of the ACC—in his “season”, he doubled the price of gas, added $6,000,000,000,000 to our debt and real unemployment is in double digits. If he can get re-elected on that, then we can win out.
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12:09 am
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GT TN
November 15th, 2012
12:13 am
@14 GT..it would be real sweet..it seems Tech wins the GT/UGA more when we aren’t expected to win than when we think we should win..I think it will be a good one..UGA has a great record but has shown holes..they got smoked at USC and i think they got 6 TO’s at UF and barely won that game..if our D can get a few stops anything can happen..UK looked like world beaters against them and we know what UK has done against everyone this year
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
12:37 am
GT TN….all that you said is true. I just can’t see them as being a top 5 team the way they’ve played this year. Slow starts in several games, UK & UTn gave ‘em all they wanted. UFl to’s gave ‘em a win & Fl almost pulled it anyway. Only team they dominated was Auburn. I expect a good game with them & am privately feeling very optimistic. We’ll see the 24th. GOOOOO JACKETS THWGeorgie
yeller bug you show your ignorance
November 15th, 2012
12:40 am
why would you ruin a good blog by bringing up politics. not only did you do that but you showed the whole world how ignorant you are to boot but i think most of us have already figured that out.
fyi gas/oil is a global commodity and the president (any president) can not set the price on gas or oil any more than he can set the price on corn and wheat. your a dim bulb dude. wars, global markets, and commodity brokers are things that affect gas prices.
i wont even go into the deficit as you not smart enough to understand any kind of explanation as indicated by your stupid comment on gas AND this is not the place.
sorry folks. now back to the regularly scheduled program..yellow jacket sports.
go jackets!
so guys
November 15th, 2012
12:45 am
IF and i mean a big IF we got to the accc game…. which team would you rather play and why?
me? i think that fsu has a stouter d and a similarly good passing attach as clemson. clemson on the other hand may have a better running attack and clemson has seen us before?
i would be happy to play either team at this point but i kinda lean to playing clemson due to their lessor d.
10 out of 11 supersized 14 GT
November 15th, 2012
12:57 am
You have a 5-5 record for a reason and isn’t because you can beat a team like UGA. You are vesting too much blind emotion in your posts but I do you give you credit for being passionate about your team.
Go beat duke and see if Miami bans their postseason play. If you think the NCAA is gonna drop the hammer…….. A self imposed one year ban won’t do you much good. They will still add onto that anyway. They are worse than the IRS. Crazy!
fuzzybee78
November 15th, 2012
1:12 am
Duke took notice of the GT/UNC game— check it out-
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story/20825806/article-Blue-Devils-know-dangers-of-Jackets’-offense?
trueblueeagle
November 15th, 2012
5:23 am
Just beat DUKE! ONE GAME AT TIME!
Turkey Neck
November 15th, 2012
5:45 am
It doesn’t look like Groh was the problem. If UNC can lay 50 on that “defense”, what will UGA do?
dagnabit
November 15th, 2012
5:53 am
Well turkey neck ,we’ll know in two weeks.
spider
November 15th, 2012
7:15 am
i hate to admit it but i have to agree with yellow fever a little bit, if we beat duke and miami self imposes a bowl ban, playing UGA and FLA ST back to back looks very grim.
White&Gold
November 15th, 2012
7:30 am
Turkey Neck, this isn’t a disney movie where a team can magically rally together and start performing like a fantasy team. Did you honestly think the defense was gonna start pitching shutouts week in and week out after Groh left? Of couse not. We’re still running the 3-4 scheme which has to go next year. The only difference is that Kelly might blitz more on occasion. Overall though, we’re still running exactly what we were when Groh was here.
Veteran Fan
November 15th, 2012
7:48 am
This coach is the real deal! He preaches defense and rebounding and when you do that you win no matter what! We will be a top 15 team by the second half of the season and will be challenging for a good seed in the ACC tourney.
gtne80
November 15th, 2012
8:12 am
As a Tech grad and life long fan, I sincerely hope that we beat Duke and that Miami chooses to not take the voluntary ban.
tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket
November 15th, 2012
8:13 am
The jackets have a real chance against all the three remaining opponents. Miami will foreit. They are crazy if they don’t with their history.
Hold On!!!
November 15th, 2012
8:15 am
So Tech puts up 68 and but gives up 50, and all of a sudden yall think yall can beat UGA and FSU? I do not have a problem with Tech fans, but yall are really reaching on this. Will Tech play UGA tough, probably so. Tech usually always plays UGA tough. Do I think yall can put up 40+ pts against UGA and FSU, HELL NO. The only way yall can win is out scoring people…that does not allow teams to win in big games against Top 10 teams. Better hope the U doesnt self impose or yall will get embarrassed in the ACCCG. See yall next wknd!!!!
tiebreaker
November 15th, 2012
8:22 am
… and if South Florida beats Miami, back to the waiting room.
gt4ever
November 15th, 2012
8:25 am
Thanks for reading. Please remember using someone else’s handle is a bannable offense. Please practice civility.
Funny, I feel like I am in elementary school again… I mean really.. Will I get sent to time out for denigrating someone … LOL
Associated Press
November 15th, 2012
8:43 am
ATLANTA – Paul Johnson says Miami should self-impose. In other news, reports show that Senator Gyrich may have been mauled by a bear.
Dadgum.....
November 15th, 2012
8:48 am
Folks, don’t put Duke on some pedestal by thinking they are good or something. They are not a real good team. Check out their record and who they have beaten. Nobody. They won their rivalry game at home against UNC on a last second miracle. At home they lost to FSU by about 50. Clemson ditto. At VT, Duke was up early 20-0 in the 1st quarter and didn’t score again losing by 18. Sure, Duke will get some points on our D because they can sling the ball a bit but no way in hell they can out score us. Just because Duke is going to the Belk Bowl in Charlotte doesn’t mean they are good.
I have predicted GT 59-30 as the final score. It may not be that close. If we lose to Duke I will send Paul Johnson an email demanding he resign. Duke is that bad and GT will have fallen into a huge hole that I don’t want to see him dig out of.
Rock on…..
tooltime432
November 15th, 2012
9:02 am
Guys I wnt usto do well as much as anybody but this beat Duke, UGA, FSU, and challenge the rebels for control of the empire talk is crazy. Our defense is terrible. Could we win any of those game? I think maybe but I don’t know how everyone is so optamistic just because of the UNC game. I think the offense can keep the game close but both of those teams have good d’s that will get some stops. Also whoever said UGA got smoked by USC, that is true but they have an insane front 4 that can generate a pash rush. We don’t have anything that can remotely be called a pass rush. Let’s just beat Duke first…..
hedgepruner
November 15th, 2012
9:06 am
Lets beat this “Much improved Duke team” and let the rest play out .Our Defense is the worst I have seen in many years (I am 56) and a Tech fan since 2nd grade 1964. CPJ better bring in a decent defensive staff and get rid of the cast of characters he has right now because they are really terrible, when MTSU came to our house and lit us up for 40 plus points that was the telling sign that we were in deep trouble. Hopefully we can get bowl eligible and keep the uga game close without really embarrassing ourselves and this will give many of our young players little more time to mature and get ready for a big 2013 season….THWG !!!!!!!!!!!
Jacket Detective
November 15th, 2012
9:06 am
I lived in Charlotte for a year and want to go back (for a weekend anyway).
For those who need some weekly grease (for your joints or something), you are in luck.
JD is here to show the way.
South 21 Drive In.
Since 1955 and still Charlotte’s No. 1 and Favorite Drive In.
3631 South Blvd.
Between Clanton and Scaleybark Roads.
Says on the flyer the Oasis of the hamburger but I always got the fried fish and onion rings.
I was so impressed with the place I saved the flyer.
Or found it on the floor when I finally got around to cleaning up my van.
Beat Duke and we are on our way.
When the Cardinals sneak into the playoffs, do they say “we are unworthy”?
No they don’t.
Far from it.
They say “man, will a lot of folks be pissed if we get on a roll now.”
Their opponents fear those unworthies are going to steal the prize that they have worked all year for.
I’m familiar with that role if Tech needs any help with it.
DO IT JACKETS.
Billyho taught me that.
Thanks.
GT Dude
November 15th, 2012
9:07 am
let’s just focus on the task at hand, beat the Dookies
If better things happen for us, great, but without a win this weekend we can’t even begin the journey
Gooooo Jackets!
BTW – I went to the new and improved mammary gland last night, it is very impressive
tooltime432
November 15th, 2012
9:17 am
At least I don’t think effort will be a problem in this game. There is plenty to play for so we shouldn’t roll over and take it like the MTSU game
Pepper Rodgers
November 15th, 2012
9:25 am
On the bright side, tickets to the ACCCG are going for 3 bicks each. THREE bucks!
Ken Sugiura
November 15th, 2012
9:27 am
gt4ever – try it and find out. lol.
Jacket Detective
November 15th, 2012
9:38 am
The bowl game, VT and especially the Miami game did to us what the 1980 playoff loss to Dallas did to the Falcons who also blew a 17 point lead.
Al Groh could not admit to himself he was a member of the multi-millionaire class getting paid millions for no work.
Welfare for the rich actually.
So he pulled a trojan horse of sorts on us and put our ship in distress.
Wrecking one program ws not enough for that money.
The Falcons were wrecked for years after their collapse.
No one blamed Bartkowski though he did little in the 4th qt.
The team and coaches should be credited for righting the ship so soon and avoiding disaster.
And having a spunky 2nd stringer ready to show his stuff, yes, is a big part of it too.
Go Jackets.
GT Joe
November 15th, 2012
10:07 am
The post below by Jacket Detective after the Vad Lee pick 6 vs. UNC. Calling for Tevin to re-enter the game. Hilarious(ly ignorant)!
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Jacket Detective
November 10th, 2012
3:23 pm
I’m almost glad that happened.
All the no nothings wanted us to eat crow.
Think Kammeron Holsey.
He stopped the comeback because the freshmen were not ready too last night.
Brock
November 15th, 2012
10:07 am
I think if you are a Tech player then you want a chance to get to THE game. THE GAME being the ACC Championship, a bowl, whatever. At least you are there and you have a chance. If you don’t go you don’t know.
Atlantan
November 15th, 2012
10:33 am
GT just needs to worry about beating Duke. I’ve followed GT football for 30+ years and it is the same old stuff. Everyone counts their chickens and then a dud – tied UNC in 1990, 1999 lost to Wake, 2006 lost to Wake again, 2009 lost to Ugag, and countless bowl losses….
GT fans never learn – focus on the next game. I’ll go out on a limb and pick Duke to win Saturday due to all of this nonsensical talk….
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
10:38 am
As an FSU fan, I’d MUCH rather play Tech in the ACCCG. We’ve already played–and beaten–Miami and Duke. Also, those last two losses we had to Tech still sting. Would be nice to have the opportunity to avenge those. Obviously, we still have to get past Md, which we SHOULD do w/o major problems. Of course, we SHOULD have beaten NCST w/o major problems; then we’d be in the NC discussions. Woulda/coulda/shoulda.
buzzwax
November 15th, 2012
10:44 am
Beat Duke and Duke beating Miami, fine. If we EARN going to the ACCCG then fine. But ‘backing’ in with Miami self imposing, that would be CRAP. I guess GT can’t control what Miami will do.
BEATING DUKE AND BEATING THEM BADLY SHOULD BE THE ONLY POINT OF INTEREST FOR GT!!!!
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
10:44 am
yellowfever
November 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
lose to UGA, lose to Fla. State, lose bowl game. 6 & 8 record. Please spare me the grief.
____________________
Assuming you beat Duke, if you lose to UGA and FSU, you won’t have to worry any bowl game.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
10:48 am
yeller bug
November 15th, 2012
12:07 am
It’s been a different kind of year—VT has 4 losses and may not make a bowl game . . . .
____________________
Va Tech has SIX losses this year–so far.
GIVE ME A BREAK
November 15th, 2012
10:51 am
UGA can show GT how to back into a title. Come on, pups.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
10:53 am
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
12:13 am
@14 GT..it would be real sweet..it seems Tech wins the GT/UGA more when we aren’t expected to win than when we think we should win..I think it will be a good one..UGA has a great record but has shown holes..they got smoked at USC and i think they got 6 TO’s at UF and barely won that game..if our D can get a few stops anything can happen..UK looked like world beaters against them and we know what UK has done against everyone this year.
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
12:37 am
GT TN….all that you said is true.
_____________________
You guys need to sharpen your research/memory skills. The 6 turnovers in the UGA-fla game were by the gators–not the Dawgs. No, 1 4 GT, all that GT TN said is NOT true.
yeller bug
November 15th, 2012
10:55 am
To my responder who is afraid to use their real blog name—lighten up dude or dudette, it’s a joke, but since you don’t get it, let me dumb it down for you—it’s called an analogy—you can look it up–but it is where you use something of a different subject and nature to describe a current situation—my point was that despite a dreadful record, GT has a shot to win the ACC and compared that to the less than stellar performance (dreadful record) by our president and the fact that he won re-election. Elaborating on the analogy….we’ve increased our national debt more in the last 4 years than in the history of the nation…GT has given up more points than in the history of the school….gas prices has increased significantly…our 3rd down stop % has increased significantly (at least GT did something by firing the coach)…unemployment has remained stubbornly high….although we’ve had 2 KO returns for a TD, our special teams still struggle with missed or blocked FGs, giving up a blocked punt and our passing yards/game is still ranked in the bottom quartile of FBS teams. Does that help clarify it for you? If you want to continue the analogy for the future then one could point to various commentary that GT cannot recruit and without good players our program will continue to decline, fans will leave thus creating financial issues for the school until GT football is in shambles. Therefore we should get rid of CPJ now [I personally do not agree with this viewpoint] and as the ANALOGY if our nation cannot create more jobs then our productivity will decline, our debt will increase causing fiancial issues, people will create petitions for their state to secede and call for the impeachment of Obama.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
10:58 am
so guys
November 15th, 2012
12:45 am
IF and i mean a big IF we got to the accc game…. which team would you rather play and why?
me? i think that fsu has a stouter d and a similarly good passing attach as clemson. clemson on the other hand may have a better running attack and clemson has seen us before?
i would be happy to play either team at this point but i kinda lean to playing clemson due to their lessor d.
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It’s not like you have much of a choice. If FSU beats 31-point underdog Md Saturday, the Noles go to the ACCCG by virtue of their head-to-head victory over Clemson.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
11:05 am
gt4ever
November 15th, 2012
8:25 am
Thanks for reading. Please remember using someone else’s handle is a bannable offense. Please practice civility.
Funny, I feel like I am in elementary school again… I mean really.. Will I get sent to time out for denigrating someone … LOL
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No. Just don’t denigrate under someone else’s handle.
Tech Guy
November 15th, 2012
11:09 am
Some of you people are assuming UGA will beat Ga. Southern. What if they don’t?
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
11:12 am
Dadgum…..
November 15th, 2012
8:48 am
Folks, don’t put Duke on some pedestal by thinking they are good or something. They are not a real good team. Check out their record and who they have beaten. Nobody. They won their rivalry game at home against UNC on a last second miracle. At home they lost to FSU by about 50. Clemson ditto. At VT, Duke was up early 20-0 in the 1st quarter and didn’t score again losing by 18.
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Duke didn’t play FSU at home. Duke didn’t lose to FSU by “about 50.” Duke didn’t lose to Va Tech by 18.
“Dadgum” has little if any credibility.
Jacket Detective
November 15th, 2012
11:12 am
Buy some tickets GT Joe.
Until then u r just a wannabe fan hiding out at home and letting other team’s fans rule Bobby Dodd stadium.
Good thing this year’s game is not in Atlanta.
Dawg fans would have already bought up 3/4 of the seats.
headley lamar
November 15th, 2012
11:14 am
Mitt Romney said Hispanics should “self deport” too
How did that work out ?
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:20 am
headley lamar………….about as well as Obama’s $9 billion on Green Businesses that now only have 9000 jobs left and all those Shovel Ready Jobs the stimulus was going to create.
The possibilities of a Coastal tie at 4-4 | Georgia Tech
November 15th, 2012
11:29 am
[...] Notes: NCAA experts say Miami should self-impose [...]
Roger Podacter
November 15th, 2012
11:30 am
I guess GT having the division championship literally handed to them by the same team that beat them on Tech’s own field COULD be satisfying. Maybe it’ll make up for having the 2009 division title snatched from away them for their own NCAA misadventures. When you’ve had the type of football teams that the Jackets have fielded for the better part of this century, it must not matter how you get a championship. Whatever – good luck to GT if they do get the division.
@GT TN – Keep on rationalizing. Your reasoning is some of the most convoluted logic I’ve run across in a while – creative, but tortured. Comparing scores is not a useful barometer for predicting the outcome of future games. Ask Alabama. UGA will be favored by double digits against Tech for good reason, and it’s NOT so that the Jackets will get some psychological boost from being underdogs.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
11:40 am
yeller bug
November 15th, 2012
10:55 am
To my responder who is afraid to use their real blog name—lighten up dude or dudette, it’s a joke, but since you don’t get it, let me dumb it down for you—it’s called an analogy—you can look it up–but it is where you use something of a different subject and nature to describe a current situation
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Not sure you’re addressing me, but since I did respond to your erroneous 12:07 a.m. post, I’ll respond to this even more ignorant one as well.
You said Va Tech has 4 losses when instead they have 6. How is that a “joke”? Accuracy in this case actually would’ve bolstered your point more; i.e., 6 losses is more “different” than 4 for Va Tech.
And I AM using my “real blog name”; always have; never been “afraid” to. Someone with yeller bug as a blog handle looks foolish questioning someone else’s use of a blog handle.
You should concern yourself more with how your team is performing than with “dumbing down” your faulty, condescending posts for another blogger. Better yet, post accurately in the first place and you’ll reduce your chances of getting called out.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
11:45 am
Tech Guy
November 15th, 2012
11:09 am
Some of you people are assuming UGA will beat Ga. Southern. What if they don’t?
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Guess it’s kinda like some of the folks on here assuming Ga Tech will beat Duke. What if they don’t?
George Stein
November 15th, 2012
11:47 am
I might be wrong on this, but the only way a team wins is by outscoring the opponent, right? I can’t recall a time where the opposite has held true.
Bad Dawg
November 15th, 2012
11:48 am
@ GIVE ME A BREAK,
By your line of reasoning, any Division or Conference Champion that has a conference loss “backed into” it. It doesn’t work that way. SC lost more conference games, and that’s why they aren’t the SEC East champs. UF lost to UGA head-to-head, and that’s why they aren’t the SEC East champs. If it makes you feel better thinking the Dawgs lucked out, though, then have at it.
George Stein
November 15th, 2012
11:52 am
I appreciate all the UGA fans here using good grammar. This represents a real departure from the usual and gives me hope for a rational discourse over the next two weeks.
COACH K
November 15th, 2012
11:53 am
LETS GO DUKE! LETS GO DUKE!
The New ACC
November 15th, 2012
11:53 am
Okay guys. There are classic lines posted on these blogs all of the time. However, there is one on this thread that takes over 1st place. It goes to a comment by “Hold On!!!” and says something like,
“the only way ya’ll can win is by out scoring the opponents.”
LOL! Isn’t that the way that anyone wins?
Come on people. Put a little thought into what you type, please!
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:54 am
UGa must have the greatest Bus Drivers in the Country…….They are going to Back In the Dome 2 years in a row…….:roll:
COACH K
November 15th, 2012
11:56 am
NEW ACC, why don’t you find a blog where somebody cares what you think? Sorry I don’t care, I’m to busy cleaning my national championship rings!!!
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:56 am
George Stein
November 15th, 2012
11:52 am
I appreciate all the UGA fans here using good grammar. This represents a real departure from the usual and gives me hope for a rational discourse over the next two weeks.
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You know after Saturday the Niceness will be out the Door.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:58 am
coach k……..are you talking Bball? Sorry but you know it isn’t March and this is FOOTBALL right?
The New ACC
November 15th, 2012
11:59 am
DawgNole -
You are wrong. If GA Tech defeats Duke, Tech is bowl eligible. Even if there are losses to UGA and then with another possible loss to FSU in the ACC title game, Tech is still bowl eligible.
And, the ACC already has contracts with enough bowls sufficient for Tech to go bowling. Now, will GA Tech and CPJ want to go bowling with that record is a different issue. My guess is that they will in order to maintain the streak of bowl appearances.
So then, again, you are wrong.
ARdawg
November 15th, 2012
12:05 pm
George Stein
It is always a pleasure to banter with you there sir especially, this time of year. It is a shame though there aren’t more intelligent GT fans willing to discuss football and this game in particular
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
12:07 pm
KEN’S new post just makes your head hurt for sure………
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
12:10 pm
ARdwag now go back to the UGA blog and cry about Legal Blocking that could hurt your boys for the next 2 weeks.
Promethius
November 15th, 2012
12:12 pm
CPJ would have multiple NC’s if he were coach at UGa.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
12:17 pm
ARdwag is such a sweetheart.
ARdawg
November 15th, 2012
11:10 am
POAD
It doesn’t make one hill of shyte what you would say now does it? Get yer head out of your anus or hang out on the Tech blogs where it’s required practice
ARdawg
November 15th, 2012
12:20 pm
POAD
You even troll on the GT boards don’t you?
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
12:22 pm
ARdwag….I see you placed you head up your butt and came to the Tech blog.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
12:34 pm
Jeff Schultz is taking his time posting his Weekend Predictions……
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
12:42 pm
@ dawgnole..you need to learn to understand what you are reading..I was talking about UGA..they got smoked at USC and barely won at UF and UF hard 6 turnovers..never said Uga had 6..my research is fine
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
12:44 pm
The New ACC
November 15th, 2012
11:59 am
DawgNole -
You are wrong. If GA Tech defeats Duke, Tech is bowl eligible. Even if there are losses to UGA and then with another possible loss to FSU in the ACC title game, Tech is still bowl eligible.
And, the ACC already has contracts with enough bowls sufficient for Tech to go bowling. Now, will GA Tech and CPJ want to go bowling with that record is a different issue. My guess is that they will in order to maintain the streak of bowl appearances.
So then, again, you are wrong.
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I didn’t say Tech wouldn’t be bowl eligible, did I? I said they “won’t have to worry” about a bowl if they lose to UGA and FSU–in which case they would be 6-7. Are you sure that a bowl would select a team with a losing record?
So no, I’m not wrong.
So then, again, I’m not wrong.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
12:48 pm
George Stein
November 15th, 2012
11:47 am
I might be wrong on this, but the only way a team wins is by outscoring the opponent, right? I can’t recall a time where the opposite has held true.
George Stein
November 15th, 2012
11:52 am
I appreciate all the UGA fans here using good grammar. This represents a real departure from the usual and gives me hope for a rational discourse over the next two weeks.
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I believe you’re correct, George–both about outscoring opponents and about UGA fans’ good grammar.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
1:25 pm
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
12:42 pm
@ dawgnole..you need to learn to understand what you are reading..I was talking about UGA..they got smoked at USC and barely won at UF and UF hard 6 turnovers..never said Uga had 6..my research is fine
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You didn’t say UF “hard” 6 turnovers. Here’s what you did say:
“UGA has a great record but has shown holes..they got smoked at USC and i think they got 6 TO’s at UF and barely won that game.”
UGA has a great record . . . THEY got smoked . . . THEY got 6 TOs at UF . . . .
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Actually, the game wasn’t at UF. Maybe if you simply wrote a little more clearly. I know George Stein would appreciate it–as would I.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
1:28 pm
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
12:34 pm
Jeff Schultz is taking his time posting his Weekend Predictions……
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It does seem like that’s been his practice lately. I like to see his picks first so I know what not to pick. (Just kiddin’.)
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
1:42 pm
I know where the game is..sorry I should have said against UF
Buzzed
November 15th, 2012
2:12 pm
So you don’t have to be the tallest midget to win the acc coastal?
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
3:51 pm
Supersize, you out there?
ga tech
November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm
If tech beats duke, then they will beat uga and lose to fla st in charlotte. Then met uga again in chik fila bowl!
Pepper
November 15th, 2012
4:13 pm
3 bucks….ACCCG tix….you can buy an entire section…how cool is that?
10 of 11 Supersize and 14GT
November 15th, 2012
5:01 pm
I missed out on some good conversation this afternoon. I like what you had to say DawgNole. Tech fans like GT Tenn can try and poke holes in our schedule, games we won, and current record but at 5-5 we don’t have to poke at them. They are leaking badly already.
I just don’t get how UGA playing a couple close games but still winning and then also not blowing out a few teams until later in games compares to a team that has lost 5 games to mediocre talent at best (outside of Clemson) and all but one of those losses was by more than 14 points.
If you want to do comparisons here are some: Middle Tennessee = terrible losing to Miss State 45 -7 yet beat Tech worse than they did Florida Atlantic (21 point loss at home). VA Tech has 6 losses (not much to say there). BYU is mediocre this season at best and blew Tech out of the stadium in Atlanta, Miami is also mediocre at best and beat Tech in Atlanta (a game a good team would have put away when given the chance), and lastly Clemson is great on offense but plays zero defense and struggled with Auburn because of that D (Also losing to FSU because of a poor D). The best team you have played this year is Clemson and I believe they went for over 600 yards against your D.
How about that for comparisons GT Tenn??? Hope you are still feeling confident because writing this sure made me feel bad for you.
Todd
November 15th, 2012
5:09 pm
If Tech gets into the ACC championship by beating Duke and losing to UGA, they will be 6-6. If they lose the championship game–which seems quite likely–they are no longer bowl eligible. How’s that for a smack in the face?
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
5:24 pm
Todd………how can tech be Bowl eligible one week then a week later not be bowl eligible? Math is not your strong suit I guess.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
5:25 pm
Todd
November 15th, 2012
5:09 pm
If Tech gets into the ACC championship by beating Duke and losing to UGA, they will be 6-6. If they lose the championship game–which seems quite likely–they are no longer bowl eligible. How’s that for a smack in the face?
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Take a look at the 11:59 a.m. post by “The New ACC.” He obviously disagrees with you, and with me–even though I said only that Tech wouldn’t have to worry about a bowl if they finish 6-7.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
5:32 pm
Tech will finish the regular season at 6-6 that makes them Bowl Eligible….Losing in the CG will not take them out of a bowl…. The ACC CG loser is contracted to go to a Bowl.
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
5:37 pm
@10 of 11..when have you ever seen me say that we have had a great year..I wasn’t comparing schedules or wins and loses..I made the comment that I thought GT had a chance to win if things go right..correct me where Im wrong..UK gained over 325 yards on UGA..UK only gained over 260 yards on 4 teams..UGA gave up 44 points to UT..i have said games like that let me know we could stay with UGA and then anything could happen..I have also said that games like MTSU shows me GT can’t win..if GT has a team effort and we get some TO’s I think GT has a good chance to win..
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
5:42 pm
@ Todd please quit typing about things that you don’t know..if Tech gets it 6th win they are bowl eli..if they lose the champ game that doesn’t change anything..all you have to do is look back 1 year to UCLA..finished season 6-6 and then lost to Oreg in champ game..they went to a bowl game
Delbert D.
November 15th, 2012
5:48 pm
Last season UCLA went to a bowl with a 6-7 record. They finished 6-8. With all of that “extra bowl practice time,” surely that is responsible for their 8-2 record at this point. Even with Jim McKay as head coach.
I think Georgia Tech at this point to strive to beat Duke on Saturday, and then they should focus on the next game. The University of Miami corpus delicti – mea culpa issue with the NCAA should matter not a whit.
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
5:50 pm
@ 10 of 11..You saw GT has played 1 good team all year..I can say UGA has only played 2 good teams..they were smoked by one of them and UF gave them the 2nd with 6 TO’s..so GT is 0-1 against good teams and UGA is 1-1 against good teams..I’m not scared of the UGA schedule..UGA has the 9th toughest schedule in the SEC..
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
6:03 pm
With a win on Sat the Jackets are 5-3 in conf..when was the last time GT was 5-3 in conf..2008..what happen in 2008..the good guys 45 and the scum 42..lets go out and beat Duke
superDawg
November 15th, 2012
6:08 pm
tn The #14 team in the SEC would be #1 right now in the acc coastal so what is your point.The UGA “D” is going to put a smack down on your gt beehind and the “O” is going to show you what a running attack really is.Put on your seat belt and K.M.A.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
6:15 pm
superDawg
November 15th, 2012
6:08 pm
tn The #14 team in the SEC would be #1 right now in the acc coastal
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And what EXACTLY are you basing that on?
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
6:16 pm
@ superDawg..I have a ton of UGA fans and dawg fans like you embarrass them..once again a dawg opens his mouth and he just starts talking..nothing coming out is factua or even close to the truth..I can’t believe you are bringing up the bottom of the SEC..I know why you mention them..5 of the 6 worst teams in the conf are on your schedule..the same schedule that will keep you out of NC game if you beat GT and Ala..a 1 lost ND, Oreg and KState would still play..have to hate that you will be the first sec team in years to win conf and get left out of NC game
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
6:18 pm
StupordWag
Tennessee 0-6 4-6
x – Kentucky 0-7 1-9
x – Auburn 0-7 2-8
Which one of these #14 SEC teams would win the Coastal?
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
7:04 pm
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
5:32 pm
Tech will finish the regular season at 6-6 that makes them Bowl Eligible….Losing in the CG will not take them out of a bowl…. The ACC CG loser is contracted to go to a Bowl.
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How do you already know that they’ll finish the reg season 6-6? They have two more games to play. As far as the bowls, I think the question remains, which bowl would take a team with a losing record? Do you know which bowl?
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
7:10 pm
GT TN
November 15th, 2012
5:42 pm
@ Todd please quit typing about things that you don’t know..if Tech gets it 6th win they are bowl eli..if they lose the champ game that doesn’t change anything..all you have to do is look back 1 year to UCLA..finished season 6-6 and then lost to Oreg in champ game..they went to a bowl game
Delbert D.
November 15th, 2012
5:48 pm
Last season UCLA went to a bowl with a 6-7 record. They finished 6-8. With all of that “extra bowl practice time,” surely that is responsible for their 8-2 record at this point. Even with Jim McKay as head coach.
I think Georgia Tech at this point to strive to beat Duke on Saturday, and then they should focus on the next game. The University of Miami corpus delicti – mea culpa issue with the NCAA should matter not a whit.
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But wasn’t UCLA in that PAC 12 CG only because USC was on probation? I seem to recall that they made a special exception there.
I agree with Delbert as far as focusing on the NEXT game (Duke in your case). Same way I feel about UGA, which needs to worry about Ga Southern, Ga Tech, and Bama BEFORE beginning any NC game talk.
jeffjacket
November 15th, 2012
7:11 pm
@dawgnole —- ask UCLA.
you know i have always heard , people who are scared talk alot.
Vad and CPJ got you quaking in your boots !!!
GO JACKETS!!!! TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!!!
Reality
November 15th, 2012
7:20 pm
@DawgNole -
Yes, you are wrong. Any ACC team that is bowl eligible will be “invited” to a bowl this year – and this includes GA Tech after beating Duke this weekend. Tech can lose to UGA and also in the ACC title game, but Tech will still be going bowling.
Why? Because the ACC has contracts with enough bowls to ensure that any ACC team with 6 wins will go bowling. This is especially true since UNC cannot go due to NCAA penalties and the odds that Miami won’t go due to self imposed penalty.
So again – yes, you are wrong.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
7:20 pm
jeffjacket
November 15th, 2012
7:11 pm
@dawgnole —- ask UCLA.
you know i have always heard , people who are scared talk alot.
Vad and CPJ got you quaking in your boots !!!
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Ask UCLA what?
I don’t know about quaking in my boots, but Lee certainly did a fine job last week–and no doubt opened some eyes. My biggest fear as far as the UGA-Tech game is that the Dawgs will be battling two major enemies–especially considering their recent history with the Jackets: (1) complacency and (2) overconfidence. Their success–or lack of same–in overcoming those two factors will determine how they fare against Tech. I hope Lee’s performance last week will serve as an eye-opener in Athens.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
7:32 pm
Reality
November 15th, 2012
7:20 pm
@DawgNole -
Yes, you are wrong. Any ACC team that is bowl eligible will be “invited” to a bowl this year – and this includes GA Tech after beating Duke this weekend. Tech can lose to UGA and also in the ACC title game, but Tech will still be going bowling.
Why? Because the ACC has contracts with enough bowls to ensure that any ACC team with 6 wins will go bowling. This is especially true since UNC cannot go due to NCAA penalties and the odds that Miami won’t go due to self imposed penalty.
So again – yes, you are wrong.
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Once again, I did NOT say Tech would be ineligible. I asked which bowl would select a losing team (6-7, asssuming you beat Duke and lose to UGA) from a football-weak conference as one of its participants? Nobody else on this blog seems to know. Do you? Why would a bowl contractually agree to such a farce?
Didn’t last year’s UCLA situation represent the first time a losing team went to (not emerged from) a bowl game?
So no, I’m not wrong (and I hope you’re not in your pronouncement of a Tech victory Saturday) I’m simply asking a question: Which bowl selects a losing team from a football-weak conference?
10 out of 11 supersized 14 GT
November 15th, 2012
7:37 pm
GT Tenn did you really just say a 1 loss ND, K State, or Oregon would be in the NC game ahead of a 1 loss sec champion UGA team? Hopefully I am misreading your post there. If not then even your “elite” group of UGA fans that would be so embarrassed by my posts would be dumbfounded by that. You can’t be serious???
Not a likely scenario at all but trust me and I would bet any amount of money if that scenario played out UGA would be in and you are way off.
If you didn’t mean it to read that way my apologies.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
The Peach Chic-fil-A
Orange
BCS
Belk
Military
Music
Blue Turf
Champs
Sun
Are the ones the ACC has tie-in to.
White&Gold
November 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
UGA being in the National Championship this year would be a travesty. It’s reserved for the two “best” teams in college football. Not some pretender.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
7:51 pm
dWagNole being that you are a fan of an ACC team I would think you know the ACC bowls but here is the link.
http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/12-acc-postseason-bowls.html
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:01 pm
DawgNole….11-15-2012….10:53 AM….I did say UFl had 6 to’s (Ga got 6 to’s) & y’all were about to give up a score when they made their 6th to. Without the to’s, I wonder if Georgie wins.
10 out of 11 supersized 14 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:05 pm
Thanks white&slow. The feeling is mutual about u guys playing in a bowl game after losing by 21 points to middle Tennessee at home.
ARdawg
November 15th, 2012
8:05 pm
AFAIK, no bowl has to take any team with a losing record. Contract or not makes no difference
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
7:51 pm
dWagNole being that you are a fan of an ACC team I would think you know the ACC bowls but here is the link.
http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/12-acc-postseason-bowls.html
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Thanks for the link. Useful info. So are you saying one of these bowls MUST select Tech if the Jackets finish the year 6-7?
That’s what I’m questioning. I just can’t believe a bowl would agree contractually to take a losing team. ARdawg apparently agrees–albeit w/o a reference.
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:18 pm
DawgNole….wrong….kinda….again…..Duke vs VT 41-20….Duke Vs FSU 48-7……………….. 41-20….21 pt diff not 3….is kinda close….48-7……………………….41 pt diff is in the “about 50″ range to me….both were away games for Duke DawgNole says Dadgum has no credibility. I question DwagNole’s credibility. He is nitpicking over a few points here in someone else’s post & misread a post my me yesterday.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
8:24 pm
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:01 pm
DawgNole….11-15-2012….10:53 AM….I did say UFl had 6 to’s (Ga got 6 to’s) & y’all were about to give up a score when they made their 6th to. Without the to’s, I wonder if Georgie wins.
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In which post did you say “UFl had 6 to’s (Ga got 6 to’s) & y’all were about to give up a score when they made their 6th to”? I couldn’t find that.
Like you, I wonder if UGA could’ve won without the fla turnovers; I don’t believe so.
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:25 pm
DwagNole…..just who died & decreed you “god”?? You are making a total azz of yourself with your self righteous holier-than-thou attitudes. Criticizing everyone else & making errors in your own posts.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
8:29 pm
DwagNole…..I think YES one of those bowls has to take the ACC CG runner up. That means Tech has to beat DUKE and get in the ACC CG. If Tech doesn’t go to the ACC CG then they may not go to a bowl. There is a chance there will not be enough bowl eligible teams to fill all the bowls right now. UNC and maybe Miami are 2 from the ACC don’t forget Ohio State can’t go. I don’t even know all the teams that the NCAA has on some kinda probation.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
8:33 pm
Sorry if Tech beats Duke and doesn’t go to the ACC CG then Tech is still Bowl Eligible.
White&Gold
November 15th, 2012
8:34 pm
Yet needing an acting perfomance from you punter to secure a victory over 1-9 Kentucky is better? We’re bad this year, but we’re certainly no pretender.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
8:41 pm
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:18 pm
DawgNole….wrong….kinda….again…..Duke vs VT 41-20….Duke Vs FSU 48-7……………….. 41-20….21 pt diff not 3….is kinda close….48-7……………………….41 pt diff is in the “about 50″ range to me….both were away games for Duke DawgNole says Dadgum has no credibility. I question DwagNole’s credibility. He is nitpicking over a few points here in someone else’s post & misread a post my me yesterday.
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:25 pm
DwagNole…..just who died & decreed you “god”?? You are making a total azz of yourself with your self righteous holier-than-thou attitudes. Criticizing everyone else & making errors in your own posts.
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You’re starting to get in over your head now. Nine points is not “a few.” 41 is “about 40″–not “about 50,” as Dadgum indicated. He also said Duke lost by 18 (not “about 18″) to Va Tech; 21 is not 18. He also said “At home they (Duke) lost to FSU by about 50.” Duke played that game in Tallahassee–not “at home.”
As far as misreading your post, there was no misread at all. I was questioning GT TN’s post about UGA TOs “at UF”; the game wasn’t at UF.
Feel free to show me the “errors” in my posts. If I’ve questioned someone else’s post(s), I’ve copied it first–word for word–so there is no question about what was said.
Dadgum has no credibility, and yours is beginning to erode.
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:45 pm
I’m not sitting here arguing with you sons of biscuits any longer. Y’all win. You’re only here to stir kaka & agitate anyway. Well, have at it. Play your silly games with others. G’nite all.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
8:46 pm
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
8:29 pm
DwagNole…..I think YES one of those bowls has to take the ACC CG runner up. That means Tech has to beat DUKE and get in the ACC CG. If Tech doesn’t go to the ACC CG then they may not go to a bowl. There is a chance there will not be enough bowl eligible teams to fill all the bowls right now. UNC and maybe Miami are 2 from the ACC don’t forget Ohio State can’t go. I don’t even know all the teams that the NCAA has on some kinda probation.
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If one of those bowls MUST by contract select a 6-7 team (Tech in this case, under the previously documented assumptions), I’ll be shocked–and I’ll also be on here saying that you were correct.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
8:52 pm
1 4 GT
November 15th, 2012
8:45 pm
I’m not sitting here arguing with you sons of biscuits any longer. Y’all win. You’re only here to stir kaka & agitate anyway. Well, have at it. Play your silly games with others. G’nite all.
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Oh, pleeeeeeeeeeze don’t leave!
I’m not trying to stir & agitate anything. I’ve posted more than a few times that I always pull for Tech to win every game they play except against UGA and FSU.
Tonight’s topic of interest to me is whether or not a bowl MUST select a 6-7 team. 5150 seems to think so, but I’d be very surprised.
Dadgum.....
November 15th, 2012
9:10 pm
Well since I have no credibility. Chew on this DawgNole. The bowls under contract with the ACC, which is 8 with an option for a 9th, must take an eligible ACC team. An eligible ACC team is any team with 6 wins of which one may be a non-D1 FBS team if the eligible team in question plays a 12 game schedule. It makes no difference the overall record after the ACCCG. A bowl may skip a team in line for their pick if the team they want is within one win of the team they are passing over. Thus the Chickn Bowl is not bound to the loser of the ACCCG at all. It is also very doubtful they have Tech on their wish list. This looks like a slot for Clemson for sure.
As for pathetic Duke they just got pasted by FSU and Clemson by a combined 104-27. Lost to VT 41-20. Do the math idiot. So I got the venues at FSU mixed up. Duke is pathetic. Go check their schedule and wins. Flat out ugly.
Rock on….beeatch.
Dadgum.....
November 15th, 2012
9:17 pm
Again , yes, a bowl must take a 6 win ACC team regardless of their record assuming of course those 6 wins are eligible wins. See my post above for qualifying wins. A bowl with ACC tie ins must take that team or another team within one win of said team. It’s been this way for years. Duke is already going to the Belk Bowl in Charlotte. Just saying….
10 out of 11 supersized 14 GT
November 15th, 2012
9:36 pm
Going out on a limb here white&fold but i will stick with losing by 21 at home to a team miss state beat by 35 points. Critisize the USC game please cause we lost and got our butts kicked. Picking holes in games we won is kind of maddening and the def of insanity if u ask me.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
9:51 pm
Dadgum…..
November 15th, 2012
9:10 pm
Well since I have no credibility. Chew on this DawgNole. The bowls under contract with the ACC, which is 8 with an option for a 9th, must take an eligible ACC team. An eligible ACC team is any team with 6 wins of which one may be a non-D1 FBS team if the eligible team in question plays a 12 game schedule. It makes no difference the overall record after the ACCCG. A bowl may skip a team in line for their pick if the team they want is within one win of the team they are passing over. Thus the Chickn Bowl is not bound to the loser of the ACCCG at all. It is also very doubtful they have Tech on their wish list. This looks like a slot for Clemson for sure.
As for pathetic Duke they just got pasted by FSU and Clemson by a combined 104-27. Lost to VT 41-20. Do the math idiot. So I got the venues at FSU mixed up. Duke is pathetic. Go check their schedule and wins. Flat out ugly.
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Any hope you may have had for regaining credibility went out the window with this gibberish. What bowl is contractually forced to take a 6-7 team? If you don’t know, shut your yap.
YOU do the math, fool. You sure as hell didn’t do it with your first post–in which you proclaimed Duke an 18-point loser to Va Tech and a 50-point loser (at home) to FSU. There’s three lies right there. And where did I ever defend Duke? I didn’t, you dork.
If you don’t want to get on here and embarrass yourself again, at least post facts instead of making up crap as you go.
You’re now officially down to minus 10 on the credibility scale. “Dadgum”–a pretty appropriate handle.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
10:00 pm
DwagNole…..not contractually obligated to take a 6-7 team but to take the ACC CG loser yes the bowls in the ACC alliance will have to if it comes down to TECH being 6-7 after the ACC CG.
DawgNole
November 15th, 2012
10:05 pm
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
10:00 pm
DwagNole…..not contractually obligated to take a 6-7 team but to take the ACC CG loser yes the bowls in the ACC alliance will have to if it comes down to TECH being 6-7 after the ACC CG.
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Well, you’re spelling it out pretty clearly here. We’ll find out soon enough. Hopefully Tech won’t make it a moot point by losing to Duke Saturday.
Reality
November 15th, 2012
10:26 pm
DawgNole -
I don’t understand why you refuse to believe everyone here PLUS the link to bowls under contract with the ACC. Since you seem to be some hybrid between UGA and FSU (thus your name), it may explain your lack of cognitive skills to understand.
Yes – this list of bowls are under contract with the ACC. Just like the SEC has bowl contracts. Just like every conference has bowl contracts. These contracts have a “pecking order” for their respective bowl where they must take ANY bowl eligible team from that conference. Even a GA Tech team that is 6-8 is bowl eligible – thus, they go bowling.
In fact, there have been years where bowls affiliated (under contract) with conferences “ran out” of bowl eligible teams from that conference. Then and only then can that bowl select a team that is not in the conference that they have a contract with. This actually happened to the SEC a couple of years ago.
With UNC not going to a bowl for sure, and with Miami likely not going to a bowl, that makes two ACC bowl eligible teams (per their records) that cannot go bowling. And, there are many bowls under contract with the ACC. So, this makes GA Tech going bowling somewhere almost for certain if/when we defeat Duke.
First, you had a position that NO bowl would take a 6-8 GA Tech team. Then, you backed off this position a bit and said that NO bowl select a 6-8 team. Now, you actually seem to consider that what EVERYONE tells you is true.
But even now, all you say is “we’ll find out soon enough.” You are too laughable. Some of the fans that post here are old enough to have seen this play out in previous years and KNOW FOR SURE. Some of the fans that post here are knowledgeable enough to KNOW FOR SURE.
Obviously, you don’t fall under either of those two categories. You are truely an ignorant person with a very hard head!
White&Gold
November 15th, 2012
10:42 pm
You criticize us for picking holes in games you’ve won, yet your entire fanbase has come over to our blogs over the course of our last two wins to criticize us. “Maryland was playing an LB at QB.” “You guys gave up 50 points.” Starting to see the hypocrisy in your statement?
Delbert D.
November 15th, 2012
11:04 pm
I have no idea who or which conferences will be playing in specific bowl games this year under the existing contracts. Just look back to last year’s Sugar Bowl, the top SEC tie-in game: Michigan vs. Virginia Tech. Maybe the recently signed new contracts will be different.
Delbert D.
November 15th, 2012
11:14 pm
Also, I put together a list the other day that contains the non-AQ conference teams that are bowl eligible at this moment. I’ve lost count of how many bowl games there are these days…60? 70? Isn’t there a BP Oil Spill Bowl?
Bowl Eligible Mid-Majors and Independents as of Nov.11
CUSA
8-2 UCF (Not eligible*)
8-2 Tulsa
6-4 East Carolina
MAC
9-1 Kent State
9-1 Northern Illinois
8-2 Ohio
8-2 Toledo
7-3 Ball State
7-3 Bowling Green
MWC
8-2 Boise State
8-3 San Diego State
8-3 Fresno State
6-4 Nevada
Sun Belt
7-3 Arkansas State
6-4 Louisiana-Monroe
6-4 Western Kentucky
6-3 Middle Tennessee
WAC
9-1 Louisiana Tech
8-2 San Jose State
8-2 Utah State
Independents
10-0 Notre Dame
6-4 BYU
6-4 Navy
*2012 bowl ban for UCF (2012-2017 probation)
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:20 pm
I think there are 35 bowls so 70 teams are needed.
Delbert D.
November 15th, 2012
11:38 pm
51 – I remember an article in the paper by Furman Bisher a long time ago lamenting the fact that there were now 18 bowls.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:49 pm
35 is such a joke…That is do to ESPN needing to fill air time…….
ARdawg
November 15th, 2012
11:54 pm
Bowl eligible doesn’t mean a bowl. Bowl eligible is 6 wins. A team with a 6-7 record is a losing record and while they maybe eligible doesn’t mean a bowl would want them. The bowl committee can simply take another eligible team from the conference rather than take a runner up with a losing record. The bowl game belongs to the Bowl, not the conference. It is the bowl that makes the payout. Conferences do not own nor “push” the bowls around. Certainly not the ACC anyway…LOL
Under the scenario described here, GT would be sitting at the house with a 6-7 record. They’d be better off finishing 6-6 not playing in the ACCCG and might get the Smurf bowl. Hello Boise
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:56 pm
Right now there are only 57 teams bowl eligible.
5150 UOAD
November 15th, 2012
11:58 pm
ARdWag….you head is up your butt for sure and you are talking out of it again.
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
12:05 am
POAD
You are a troll who does nothing but run your mouth on subjects you know nothing about. Try adding something of substance to the discourse or STFU
5150 UOAD
November 16th, 2012
12:09 am
ARdWag….READ I explained it perfectly and have been agreed with by most everyone. You need to get a clue and READ what the bowl tie-in say.
Right now the bowls NEED 13 more teams to become eligible just to fill the 70 slots. Go on ESPN.com and check all the 57 teams eligible right now. Many Bowls will not want some of them even if they have a good record. Get a clue.
1 4 GT
November 16th, 2012
12:12 am
dwagnole is “Carnack” (WnE) in drag & AlabamaRetredDwag is his near sister!
fuzzybee78
November 16th, 2012
12:12 am
Vad Lee interview with Wes— check it out:)
http://www.youtube.com/user/ramblinwrecktube?feature=results_main
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
12:17 am
There is still 3 weeks to play Troll. There will be plenty of eligible teams to fill the bowls before one has to take Tech with a losing record. Which, no bowl wishes to do. You are a disgusting beggar. Attempting to find some glory in getting into the ACCCG from another team stepping away, knowing you will lose it and think you deserve a bowl. TFF
5150 UOAD
November 16th, 2012
12:19 am
ARdWag look at the eligible teams right now and get back to me with your crap………….
http://espn.go.com/college-football/standings
5150 UOAD
November 16th, 2012
12:25 am
How do you get 3 weeks ARdWag? There are 2 weeks left and Championship week. The ACC is one of the few that is up in the air about who is in the championship game and for sure the only one that is waiting to see if a 6-6 team will play in a CG.
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
12:27 am
Troll
Quit attempting to make something up to fit your fantasy. GT will play in no bowl with a losing record. Unless of course they have a Loser Bowl at Bobby Dodd
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
12:31 am
Conference championships are not the only games played on Dec 2, idiot. Conference championships also count to a teams overall record. Why don’t you just back completely out of this conversation before you reveal completely what a fool you truly are?
5150 UOAD
November 16th, 2012
12:40 am
ARdWag you are stupid. The regular season on which Bowl eligibility is determined is a 12 game schedule.
Some other games are played on Championship Week but it still is only for the 12th game.
Shouldn’t you be on the UGA blog crying about Cut blocking and the dWags losing a basketball game and 2 more coming up against 2 top15 teams.
1 4 GT
November 16th, 2012
12:42 am
Vad had a brief but good interview with Wes. The mutt Trolls got fodder for their kaka though. But, I am glad the young man (look at his face he looks about 16) has lofty goals to work for. I wish him much success in that. From what I have seen of him in the games so far, he just might reach his goals. Anyone that didn’t watch the video on youtube, fuzzybee78 put up a link to it @12:12 AM November 16, 2012. I urge to check it out.
5150 UOAD
November 16th, 2012
12:48 am
1 4 GT I saw it. It is good.
ARdWag so you are saying a 6-6 team that can play for their conference championship should turn down that chance to go to a bowl game instead? How STUPID is that? You really are crazy.
5150 UOAD
November 16th, 2012
1:15 am
Bowl-eligibility contingency plan
On August 2, 2012 The NCAA Division I Board of Directors approved a process that would allow 5-7 teams to become bowl eligible, in case there aren’t enough bowl-eligible teams to fill every game. If a bowl has one or more conferences/teams unable to meet their contractual commitments and there are no available bowl-eligible teams, the open spots can be filled – by the bowl sponsoring agencies – as follows:[1]
Teams finishing 6-6 with one win against an FCS team, regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship requirements. Until now, an FCS win only counted if that opponent met the scholarship requirements—specifically, that school had to award at least 90% of the FCS maximum of 63 scholarship equivalents over a two-year period. In the 2012 season, programs in four FCS conferences cannot meet the 90% requirement (56.7 equivalents)—the Ivy League, which prohibits all athletic scholarships; the Patriot League and Pioneer Football League, which do not currently award football scholarships; and the Northeast Conference, which limits football scholarships to 38 equivalents.
6-6 teams with two wins over FCS schools.
Teams that finish 6-7 and lose in the conference championship game are next.
6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii’s home opponents. Although Hawaii normally plays a 13-game schedule, it is only playing 12 games this season.
FCS teams who are making the transition to the FBS, if they have at least a 6-6 record.
Finally, the nod would go to 5-7 teams that have a top-5 Academic Progress Rate score. For 2012, these teams are Northwestern, Duke, Boise State, Ohio State, and Northern Illinois. [2] All of these schools have 6 or more wins already, with Ohio State being ineligible due to sanctions.
5150 UOAD
November 16th, 2012
1:57 am
120 teams
-57 bowl eligible now
-34 Not eligible for postseason.
leaving 29 teams to fill 13 bowl slots
of those 29 teams 10 have not real shot at becoming Bowl Eligible
So that leaves 19 teams to fill 13 spots
Some of you saying TECH will not go bowling if they finish 6-7 are not the best at the NUMBERS.
Tech is also a better name brand than some of those 18 teams.
yeller bug
November 16th, 2012
2:22 am
@DogNole aka whatever your other blog name(s) is/are–sorry for my belated response as I’ve been busy—I’ll dumb it down for you again–I was accurate: VT has 4 “conference” losses as we were talking about the ACC championship which has nothing to do with overall record–I also referred to their possibility of not making a bowl implying that they must win out. As to your political/economic opinions, they coincide with the moral/intellectual level of someone who would be giddy about the presidential election results. That in itself says enough.
Regarding football and just sticking with stats—Duke’s passing offense is just behind UGAs in total yds, they throw about 40 times/game and complete 62% which will be a challenge to us especially because they are usually short passes…avg 10 yds/completion. Hard to successfully blitz that kind of dink and dunk passes which we don’t blitz well anyway. The best D for us will be a good offense—Duke gives up the yards and the scores so we’ll need about 7 or 8 (mostly TDs) scores to win.
From the bleachers
November 16th, 2012
9:18 am
It’s doesn’t say much for the ACC when a 4-3 conference and 5-5 overall is leading the Coastal Division and could possibly even be conference champions with a 6-6 or at best 7-5 record. Boy that would make the Organge Bowl Happy!
The New ACC
November 16th, 2012
10:57 am
ARdawg,
I see that you are picking up the stupidity where DawgNole left off….
The ACC conference has contracts with a number of bowls. See the link in a previous message for a list of these bowls. And, these bowls are bound to select any ACC team as long as they are bowl eligible.
The ACC has many bowls under contract. The bowl “pecking order” is also pre-determined. For example, after the BCS game, the Chick-fil-a bowl gets the next pick. There is another bowl’s turn after that. Then another after that. And so on.
For any ACC team to go bowling, they must be “bowl eligible” per the NCAA rules. This means that a team must have a minimum of 6 wins.
For GA Tech, if Tech gets the 6th win (hope to against Duke this weekend), then GA Tech becomes bowl eligible.
Then, GA Tech is allowed to be picked in the “pecking order” from the bowls that the ACC has contracts with. Now, here is where you must read slowly so that you can understand…
There are more contracts with bowls than teams that are bowl eligible in the ACC this year. This is primarily due to UNC being under NCAA penalty and the likelihood that Miami would self impose a bowl ban this year.
So, with more bowl contracts than bowl eligible teams ANY team in the ACC with at least 6 wins will DEFINITELY go bowling. The only other reason this could not happen is if that individual team decides that they don’t want to go.
How could even the most stupid ugag person not understand this?
The New ACC
November 16th, 2012
10:59 am
@From the bleachers -
You comment just shows that the Coastal Division “beats up on each other” a lot. LOL!!!!
Who cares
November 16th, 2012
11:00 am
This is pathetic. Tech fans begging for Miami to self impose so they can win their
division. This is a team that can’t even beat MTSU and BYU.
Just proves how horrible the ACC is
Tech offense seeking more vs. Duke | Georgia Tech
November 16th, 2012
11:00 am
[...] Notes: NCAA experts say Miami should self-impose [...]
The New ACC
November 16th, 2012
1:36 pm
@Who cares,
“Begging?” Your definition of begging is very odd. I see no begging at all in any posts.
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
1:51 pm
The New ACC
I see that you are as condescending and ignorant as your brethren POAD, that is if you are not him yourself as most of you trolls change names the way most change underwear.
What you need to understand Mr. Ignoramous, no Bowl wants a team with a losing record. Bowls are not contractually bound to take a team from your weak conference with a losing record no matter the “tie-in”. Bowl committees are well aware of the season each prospective team has had. If the #3 or 4 in the ACC bowl pecking order doesn’t have bowl eligible teams left in the conference or teams with losing records chances are they will not pick from your conference. Bowls have standards of the teams they wish to have play in their bowls. Unlikely the Chic-fila will take a team with only 6 wins and to take a 7 win team would be a stretch. 6 wins is bowl eligible but doesn’t guarantee a bowl invite. A losing record with 6 wins almost guarantees no invite will come. Can you name me one team that went to any bowl with a 6-7 record? Take your time
GT Lee
November 16th, 2012
2:57 pm
AR Dwag,
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/7316906/ucla-bruins-take-illinois-fighting-illini-kraft-fight-hunger-bowl
Please read the article.
ARdawg
November 16th, 2012
3:10 pm
Well maggot you did find one. “This will be the 31st bowl appearance for UCLA, which needed a special waiver from the NCAA to become bowl eligible after falling to 6-7 with their loss to Oregon on Friday. ”
Can you find another? And good luck with that waiver btw. Although, there’s not much use in applying for it it you can’t beat Duke
Tech notes: At the finish, Tanner’s opportunity arrives | Georgia Tech
November 16th, 2012
4:05 pm
[...] Notes: NCAA experts say Miami should self-impose [...]
Tech offense seeking more vs. Duke | Blog
November 17th, 2012
6:40 am
[...] Notes: NCAA experts contend Miami should self-impose [...]
wreckbone
November 17th, 2012
9:36 am
UGA fans on my big again telling us we can’t win. With that offense if its hitting we can outscore about anyone. If we have a talented or clutchqb. Clemson top 10 team. One fumble away from having that one in. hand. So I like our chances. You only blew Johnson out one year.
Dadgum.....
November 17th, 2012
10:45 pm
Again, let me spell this out for you people. Bowls with ACC contractual tie ins are indeed bound to the conference and must take an eligible ACC team. Any conference team that had 6 eligible wins can be selected. A bowl may pass one eligible team in the pecking order to select another conference team as long as that team is within one win of the team passed over. A bowl can only go outside the conference when the conference does not have enough qualifying teams which will happen this year.
The Chicken Bowl this year appears leaning toward Clemson but Clemson may land in a bigger BCS bowl. They are not obligated to take the ACCCG runner up. They have the #2 pick not necessarily the #2 team from the conference. It will be an interesting scenario that unfolds for sure.
Dadgum.....
November 17th, 2012
10:48 pm
Oh yeah, a team with a losing record but with 6 eligible wins is a qualifying team and MUST be selected. UCLA went last year from their conference.