Tech season takes yet another turn




The smirk returned Saturday.
After his team buried North Carolina under an avalanche of yards, touchdowns and difference-making plays, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson gave praise to the Yellow Jackets’ next opponent, Duke. The Blue Devils are much improved, Johnson said, and a very good team.
“Plus, they’ve had two weeks to get ready,” he said. “We all know how that works.”
The remark referred to the oft-repeated belief that opponents receive a considerable benefit when they have an extra week to prepare for Tech’s spread-option offense. Opposing coaches have routinely credited it when they’ve won, but it irks Johnson and he likely took no small pleasure in providing contrary evidence Saturday. North Carolina had an extra week to get ready for Tech, but the Tar Heels gave up the most they had ever allowed in a home game in the Jackets’ 68-50 victory in Chapel Hill, N.C.
“Practices were good,” UNC coach Larry Fedora said. “If I saw that coming, I probably wouldn’t have shown up (Saturday).”
Johnson’s post-game demeanor, bragging on his players and cracking wise, reflected yet another change of course in Tech’s improbable season. It began with an overtime loss to Virginia Tech that was somehow both stunning and encouraging, appeared to lift off with a shearing of Virginia, then collapsed in consecutive losses to Miami, Middle Tennessee State and Clemson.
The Jackets have now won three of their last four and, with quarterback Vad Lee’s vibrant play Saturday, may have finally found traction.
“We really needed this,” A-back Orwin Smith said. Only a couple weeks ago, he continued, players’ heads were down. “Now guys feel like they can win, and that’s what we need. As long as guys believe, I feel like we can get some things done.”
More than a few things got done Saturday, an afternoon of firsts and mosts, starting with the ACC record for most combined points in a conference game.
Tech set school records for most points in an ACC game, most players to rush for a touchdown in an ACC game (five), most opponent kickoff return yards (267) and most kick return yards by an individual (Jamal Golden, 230). The Tar Heels set ACC records for most kickoff returns (11) and most points by a losing team. Tech’s 68 points were also the most ever scored on North Carolina in a conference game.
“Too bad we missed that two-point conversion,” Johnson said.
More pertinent to Tech’s season, the Jackets achieved a meaningful “first since.” This season, the fourth quarter has been a platform for opponents to bolt the game down, stage comebacks or at least tighten the score. Saturday, Tech locked the game up in the final 15 minutes. The Jackets outscored North Carolina 10-7 in the fourth, scoring the final 10 points after the Tar Heels drew to within 58-50 on an interception returned for a touchdown in the first minute of the quarter.
It was the first time that Tech had outscored its opponent in the fourth quarter of a game that was within two scores at the end of the third since its 45-35 win over N.C. State in the fifth game of the 2011 season. The Jackets did it, no less, against a UNC team that had outscored its opponents 75-28 in the fourth quarter before Saturday.
Lee led the two scoring drives in the fourth, accounting for 99 of the two possessions’ 156 yards either by run or pass. He riddled the Tar Heels throughout the afternoon, accumulating 281 yards of total offense and accounting for three touchdowns. Lee, who came in as planned for starter Tevin Washington in the third series of the game and thereafter never left, also converted six of Tech’s nine third downs with runs or passes.
“I just wanted to execute the offense to the fullest, to the best of my ability,” Lee said. “I think we did that (Saturday).”
The win sets up a potential “first since” – Tech’s first ACC Coastal Division title since 2009. Tech will play Duke at 3:30 p.m. Saturday at Bobby Dodd Stadium, televised on ESPNU. A berth in the ACC championship game may be on the line.
The Jackets will go to Charlotte with a win over the Blue Devils and one of three scenarios. One is Miami losing to Duke Nov. 24. Should Miami beat the Blue Devils, the second is North Carolina beating Virginia and Maryland to finish in a three-way tie with Miami and Tech and then Virginia finishing in fourth place, which would give Tech a berth in the championship game through the league’s tiebreaker system. The third would require Tech to beat Duke and Miami to self-impose a postseason ban as part of its NCAA sanctions.

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ENGRGT

November 11th, 2012
4:35 pm

Go jackets… Keep your mind grounded… But jump high for the win!

TDone

November 11th, 2012
4:42 pm

Who would have thought?

TechBoy

November 11th, 2012
4:50 pm

Is that right Ken? Would UNC factor into the tie breaker if they are not eligible?

Cutlass81

November 11th, 2012
4:53 pm

Wait, so UNC can affect the tie breaker?

White&Gold

November 11th, 2012
5:11 pm

The scenario is if UNC wins out, Miami beats Duke, and we beat Duke; there will be a threeway tie considering Miami beat us, UNC beat Miami, and we beat UNC. That honestly seems extremely possible of happening. I’m not sure how they would determine whether we or Miami wins the coastal.

Slovak

November 11th, 2012
5:11 pm

Don’t you “sports fans” pay attention?

MelloJacket

November 11th, 2012
5:12 pm

Im wondering the same thing about UNC. I wouldnt think they would be factored into a tiebreaker no matter what their record….

chas_jacket

November 11th, 2012
5:18 pm

Believe I read where Heather Dininch at ESPN said that UNC’s games & record would be considered just the same as a regular team – even though UNC itself is ineligble.This falls in line with what Ken said – although not sure how we would when the tiebreaker.

btgt69

November 11th, 2012
5:27 pm

just beat Duke and uga,, that would make a great season

jeffjacket

November 11th, 2012
5:29 pm

BELIEVE!!!!!!

GO JACKETS!!!! SMIRK ALL YOU WANT CPJ , YOU DESERVE IT!! I TOLD ALL YOU HATERS TO COOL IT FOR THE PAST MONTH!

HATE TO SAY IT , BUT I TOLD YOU SO!!!

fuzzybee78

November 11th, 2012
5:30 pm

This is great news on the tiebreaker. I thought if UM beats Duke they go but—
“NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND!” UNC should be favored in both those games, who knows they were favored over GT too!

Just BEAT DUKE BAD and give Dawg fans something to privately worry about, losing to a 6 win Tech in Athens. Can you imagine SEC East champions losing to Tech???

Yea I know, cant happen, just like it couldnt happen in 08!

White&Gold

November 11th, 2012
5:30 pm

btgt69: If I can add on to you comment, we need to win our bowl game as well. I’m tired of taking a loss through the winter, spring, and summer. Need to end on a strong note for once.

gtne80

November 11th, 2012
5:35 pm

Forget the ACCCG. Focus on Duke. This is not the usual Duke team.

The season hangs in the balance of this game.

Win it, and we’re bowl eligible and do no worse than a .500 regular season in a year that had us on the road at VT, UNC, Clem(p)son, and UGA. The overtime losses against Miami and VT hurt. The letdown loss against MTSU was an anomaly. A win this week puts a whole different light on the year.

Lose against Duke and get blown out in Athens and the season looks a lot worse.

The Miami situation and potential tiebreakers are outside of our control.

Our defense HAS to improve in order for us to beat Duke. We won’t score 60 points again.

I like the confidence…back it with performance!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 11th, 2012
5:35 pm

WOW…..not it sounds like all we have to do is beat Duke, because I feel pretty confident that UNC will beat both UVA and Maryland. This is unreal !!!

BTW, awesome quotes by Johnson. That’s the Johnson I love and ALL the opponents hate. GO PAUL !!! GO JACKETS !!!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 11th, 2012
5:37 pm

“now” it sounds, not “not” it sounds

jeffjacket

November 11th, 2012
5:42 pm

Favored or not is out of the picture at this point , here are the big points:

1- Tech has been here before , Duke has not.
2- Vad is hot , and you still have Tevin to help keep him steady as a mentor.
3- UNC has a very good defense , GT just owned that day!
4- UNC has a point to prove to win out , Va. and Md. do not.
5- Miami is , and has always been a “thug” university , they love attention , but hate pressure. Why? Because pressure shows a mans true nature.
6- This is why we that love GT , will always , Great school, Great character! Never Quit!

I am checking on my tix now in charlette! See you there!

fuzzybee78

November 11th, 2012
5:45 pm

@GTne80
Our defense HAS to improve in order for us to beat Duke. We won’t score 60 points again.

Im not sure, Duke D is statistically worse than UNC. I bet we score 50 if VL has another good day!

fuzzybee78

November 11th, 2012
5:49 pm

Need a LOUD CROWD at BDS next Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 11th, 2012
5:54 pm

@ fuzzybee78…..AMEN. Let’s fill up those perennially empty seats and watch history in the making.

White&Gold

November 11th, 2012
5:56 pm

Do we have any idea how many tickets have been sold so far?

Ramblnwrek

November 11th, 2012
5:58 pm

So here is the official rules:for 3way tie (assuming scenario 2)
Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams. (all 3 will be 5-3)
Records of the tied teams within the division. (GT and MIA would be 3-2 in division only play, UNC does not matter, but would win with win over UVA)
Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last. (again 3 way tie)
Overall record for non-divisional teams. (I think this means how good were the teams not in the division that you beat; MIA may have edge because they beat NCST vs our win over MD )
Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.(GT and MIA 1-0, but edge may go to GT because we won by more points over BC)
Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional record) and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.(same as above because only one common opponent not in division)
The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.(Ha, yeah right, NEXT!)
The representative shall be chosen by a draw.(Rock paper, scissors, lizard, Spock)

GTGirl

November 11th, 2012
6:00 pm

I will be there yelling for the Jackets Fuzzybee. It should be a great game! Go Jackets! Get there early and greet the team on their way to BDS.

Ramblnwrek

November 11th, 2012
6:01 pm

I may have been off on rule 4

dry dirt road

November 11th, 2012
6:04 pm

Nobody has mentioned anything about the statistic of 68 points being probably the second highest since the 222-0 Heisman years game.

Ramblnwrek

November 11th, 2012
6:05 pm

We scored 70 against Navy in 2001, Which incidentally lead to CPJ being hired at Navy the following year. And the rest is history.

gtne80

November 11th, 2012
6:07 pm

Ok, fuzzybee, let’s just say it’s not a good plan to COUNT on scoring 60 points against Duke. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings to see us hang a hundred on them…just not likely, no matter how the Duke D has stacked up statistically so far.

dry dirt road

November 11th, 2012
6:07 pm

changes in team = win…new kicker, fire Groh, Radikovich gone, new qb

GTNashville

November 11th, 2012
6:09 pm

Guys, this is still a bad team playing worse teams. Remember Middle TN or BYU. CPJ needs to go. We need a new direction. We will never gain national prominence with CPJ!

White&Gold

November 11th, 2012
6:13 pm

GTNashville: Did we have national prominence before CPJ? No! Hush up and support the team.

dry dirt road

November 11th, 2012
6:14 pm

ok maybe 3rd highest, as ‘73 Tech grad I didn’t remember, I’m almost 61 years old next week; thanks Ramblwrek for refreshing my memory, and also Tech needs many more of these high scoring outcomes since we now know they’re possible; could see the Duke game as another one, and Georgia too

GTBob

November 11th, 2012
6:15 pm

Well said GTNashville!

Island Jacket

November 11th, 2012
6:17 pm

We just need to focus on Duke… Nothing Else but Duke….

GO JACKETS
THWG

Supersize that order, mutt

November 11th, 2012
6:18 pm

GTNashville, you are a fool

Ramblnwrek

November 11th, 2012
6:20 pm

only reason I know is because I was in the pepband for that game.

Delbert D.

November 11th, 2012
6:22 pm

CalTech got slammed for “Lack of institutional control” by the NCAA. Really. Three years’ probation, a one-year postseason ban in the affected sports, vacated wins gained with ineligible athletes and a ban on off-campus recruiting. Uh, They don’t lose scholarships because they don’t grant athletic scholarships. They also don’t recruit.

The article is somewhat hilarious. The author points out that Southern Cal seems to be on probation 25 percent of the time, so they should have to spend the 3rd quarter of every football game on probation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/ncaa-hammers-caltech-but-other-schools-deserve-to-be-nailed/2012/11/11/c3f200d2-2919-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html

George Stein

November 11th, 2012
6:24 pm

Remember when Nick Saban’s Bama team lost at home to La-Monroe, GTNashville? Bama was never going to gain national prominence under him.

Ramblnwrek

November 11th, 2012
6:30 pm

Good factoid Stein. Did not know that.

White&Gold

November 11th, 2012
6:37 pm

The defense obviously needs a fix. It’s coming to the point where it doesn’t even need to be said. Speaking towards next year,offensively, we have our whole line (with the exception of Uzzi) returning. We have an incredible freshman QB that is an automatic replacement. Our recievers will continue to get better, as willour B-backs. We’ve seen some great stuff from our A-backs who are mostly freshman and sophmores. All of this is pointing to a sucessfull future, yet some of you morons are saying we need to throw it all away, get a new coach, and throw away atleast the next 3 seasons when we have a bright future ahead. Are you people off your medication?

Rick

November 11th, 2012
6:50 pm

Season is a bust unless they beat duke and uga.

gtne80

November 11th, 2012
6:51 pm

Ask the folks at Tennessee about the wisdom of changing coaches. Their program has been a mess since they ran off Fulmer. I was among the loudest crying to get rid of Gailey, but even I don’t think it’s time to give up on CPJ…yet.
The move to bring in Groh was a gamble that didn’t work. Let’s see what happens this offseason with the D. We can’t take another 3-year “rebuilding” of the defense. Whoever comes in has to turn things around quickly.
One thing to remember, Next year’s schedule should be more favorable with a couple of the traditionally tougher games being at home.

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pcb mike

November 11th, 2012
7:02 pm

The Vad Lee era is under way. If the defense improves to fairly good, could be an interesting future for the Jackets.

William Casey

November 11th, 2012
7:03 pm

@dry dirt road: GT scored over a 100 three times in 1918. The 70 against Navy in 2000 is the “modern” record.

o'keefe

November 11th, 2012
7:15 pm

Who cares about all the scenarios to get to the championship game? None of it means a darn thing if we don’t beat the dookies. Go Tech. Just win that game and I will be happy.

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Delbert D.

November 11th, 2012
7:22 pm

2011 Tevin Washington
987 yards rushing, 14TD 4.1 yards/attempt
1,652 yards passing, 11TD 49.3% Passer Rating 155.4

2012 Washington & Lee through 10 games
970 yards rushing, 25TD 5.0 yards/attempt
1,386 yards passing, 7TD 57.4% Passer Rating 159.3

Delbert D.

November 11th, 2012
7:35 pm

Stats including Synjyn Days in 2011

2011 Tevin Washington & Days
1,224 yards rushing, 18TD 4.2 yards/attempt
1,850 yards passing, 11TD 50.6% Rating 159.1

2012 Washington & Lee through 10 games
970 yards rushing, 25TD
1,386 yards passing, 7TD Rating 159.3

Randy Shannon

November 11th, 2012
7:54 pm

Hey jackets…. I could be persuaded to become your D coordinator with a little prodding.

I am young enough to still relate to today’s kids. I still have it to be a good D coordinator. I know the ACC and I recruit very well!

What do you think?

White&Gold

November 11th, 2012
8:00 pm

I don’t know Randy. Could you please give me your resume?

blazer

November 11th, 2012
8:05 pm

Wish we had two plays back with VA TECH and Miami! geez

..Take The Wheel

November 11th, 2012
8:06 pm

I never stopped believing in the possibility of playing for the ACCCG, bowl game and yes beating UGA!! It all starts with a thought. Ever heard of the concept – from thought to reality!! If the fans would buy in. The players’ will to win becomes greated and they fight harder to meet the expectation. They are kids.. kids will work to meet the expectation. When GT fans constantly brow beat them and pick on every little thing, they cant help but be beaten down eventually.