Starting QB decision will wait again
1. It worked out last week, so Georgia Tech quarterbacks Tevin Washington and Vad Lee look like they’ll go through another week of determining playing time through practice.
“We’ll see how practice goes this week,” coach Paul Johnson said after Monday’s practice. “But I thought they both did some good things (in the win over Maryland). They graded out not very far apart, two or three points apart.”
Last week, prior to Tech’s 33-13 win over Maryland, Johnson was similarly non-committal about his choice to start at quarterback. Following the game, Johnson said he started Washington because “he’s been the starting quarterback.”
Against the Terrapins, Washington and Lee rotated series, taking two possessions at a time, in the Yellow Jackets’ 33-13 win. Washington led Tech to two touchdowns in four possessions, Lee three touchdowns in five possessions.
Another reason Johnson cited for starting Washington – preferring to have his experience on the field at the start since Tech didn’t know how Maryland defensive coordinator Brian Stewart would scheme against the Jackets’ spread-option offense – may not hold Saturday against North Carolina. Tar Heels associate head coach for defense and inside linebackers coach Vic Koenning was defensive coordinator at Clemson in 2008, Johnson’s first season at Tech.
“I’m sure that Vic Koenning’s pretty involved,” Johnson said.
Further, defensive coordinator Dan Disch came to North Carolina with first-year coach Larry Fedora from Southern Mississippi, which played Navy last season. Navy runs an offense similar to Tech’s.
2. Outside linebacker Jeremiah Attaochu was named the ACC linebacker of the week Monday for his three-sack game against Maryland. Attaochu also had six tackles, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. It’s the second time he’s been so honored in his career and only the second time this season that a Tech player was named an ACC player of the week, tied for fewest with Boston College. Offensive tackle Will Jackson was named conference offensive lineman of the week after the 56-20 win over Virginia.
Tech’s players of the week were center Jay Finch and wide receiver Darren Waller on offense, inside linebacker Quayshawn Nealy on defense and B-back Matt Connors on special teams. Finch had 16 knockdown blocks in a game that Johnson said he thought was his best of the season. Waller, while he didn’t catch a pass, was much more physical in his blocking than he had been against BYU, Johnson said. Nealy led Tech with a career-high 12 tackles with one tackle for loss. Connors, a walk-on who plays on multiple special-teams units, had one tackle.
Johnson also had praise for B-back David Sims and offensive tackle Morgan Bailey. Johnson said that Sims played with fire and energy and had his best game as he regains his health. Bailey, starting his second game in a row, has “gotten better every week, I think. The more he plays, the better he gets.”
3. Tech’s A-backs had 26 carries in the game, which is the most for that position in a game in Johnson’s five seasons. The previous high had been 23. Orwin Smith led the team with 89 yards on 10 carries, including a five-yard touchdown run. Tech repeatedly ran toss plays to the A-backs, which Maryland coach Randy Edsall said “was a little different for them and we weren’t able to shut that play down.”
Tech had one of its best blocking games of the season, getting a season-high number of defenders to the ground. Johnson said he thought the total was 80 on 60 plays.
“We had some leverage on them, maybe,” Johnson said. “And (the toss) was working, so we ran it a lot.”
4. Outside linebacker Brandon Watts, taken out of Saturday’s game with an upper-extremity injury, did not practice Monday but is expected to return Tuesday. The same holds true for Washington, whom Johnson said “got dinged a little bit.” Attaochu, who required medical attention following the game, practiced Monday. Johnson did not know the status of Jackson, who missed his second game in a row with a shoulder injury.
5. ESPN took a six-day option on determining the kickoff time for Tech’s Nov. 17 game against Duke, meaning it will have until noon Sunday to announce the game time and broadcast outlet. The game will start at noon, 12:30 p.m., 3 p.m. or 3:30 p.m. It will be Tech’s final home game of the season.
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GTGirl
November 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
Thans Ken for all the great articles today. Go Jackets!
GTGirl
November 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
Ken, how did Fred Holton’s surgery go recently? Have you heard anything about that?
Ken Sugiura
November 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
i believe it went without incident. he’s facing 3-4 months of rehab and hopefully will be back for spring practice.
and thanks for reading.
Gray
November 5th, 2012
9:06 pm
Maybe have a fish fry to think it over.
GTGirl
November 5th, 2012
9:07 pm
Thank you for answering so quickly.
chas_jacket
November 5th, 2012
9:07 pm
The blocking by the WR’s and Sim’s in particular was the most noticeable difference in the game – they were really aggressive getting after Maryland defenders. Also really like how Green is developing at NT – he is somewhat small but exceptionally quick and has a hi speed motor.
5150 UOAD
November 5th, 2012
9:25 pm
Has to be Tevin to start and VAD had to keep working on game experience. He has to get the pitch down and reading the end.
ignition
November 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
I dont think Tech will be able to stop NC’s running attack, but I’m confident NC will be able to stop Tech’s especially in the 4th Quarter…
Vad plays 2 series..
CT_Jacket
November 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
It looked like Tech’s receivers were in a tighter formation to keep the corners from getting into the backfield like BYU did. It was the best perimeter blocking I’ve seen in a while.
But PJ has to do something about the kickers. On both missed PATs, the kick was extremely low.
Slovak
November 5th, 2012
9:46 pm
UNC is very balanced on offense. One of few teams to pass and throw for over 200yds/game. A lot like UGa. Bernard is a true talent at running back.
TechApp fan
November 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
Note: do not punt to Benard!
ps I thought PJ would use the MD game to give Lee some passing experience…Tech could win that game even with a pick…doubt the UNC game will fit that catagory.
DoddSquad
November 5th, 2012
11:00 pm
Tired of hearing how Vad Lee cannot “read” these option plays. Watch his highlights. Watch his stats. He is making plenty of reads, and more importantly, when it’s his turn to make a play, the guy goes into hyperdrive. Vad passes the test on paper and in person. Enough of the “can’t make reads” garbage already. Geez. You can’t make reads.
North Ave Killer Beez
November 5th, 2012
11:44 pm
Nothing new to see here. Shmuck of a coach still can’t admit he was wrong for starting TW from the start.
GIVE ME A BREAK
November 6th, 2012
12:26 am
Washington is only 2 to 3 points different than Lee. Easy decision.
North Avenue Rules
November 6th, 2012
2:21 am
Agree with you GIVE ME A BREAK. Start Lee!!!
GTPhenom
November 6th, 2012
3:15 am
Still calling for Lee to start, as I have been since the Miami game, but if coach thinks that TW gives us the best chance to win against UNC on Saturday, then I trust his judgement. Besides, I want us to have the best chance at winning seeings as we’re driving all the way to Chapel Hill to support the team, lol
Gray
November 6th, 2012
5:33 am
A qb controversary when both are terrible. Two mules fighting over a turnip….lol.
trueblueeagle
November 6th, 2012
6:57 am
the next Two are Must Wins! GO JACKETS
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:22 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:22 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:22 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:22 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:22 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:23 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:23 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
BLACK BEE
November 6th, 2012
7:23 am
I like playing both QB’s like last Sat. truly Tevin is the better TO QB while Lee is the best pure QB. I think it gives the DC of opposing teams something else to think about.
Max Sizemore
November 6th, 2012
7:27 am
About Lee, DoddSquad says “watch his highlights.” Yes, just the right sample.
Wrecker
November 6th, 2012
7:47 am
Since none of us watch practice, we cannot see what Johnson sees. Missed reads, particularly on the TO, result in lost yards. Our offense does not recover as well from 2nd and 10-11 or 3rd and 7-9.
Realist
November 6th, 2012
7:47 am
We won’t beat UNC or obviously UGA. Not sure about Duke because it depends on which GT team shows up and we will need to play a really good game as they have improbed. Once again UGA is going to score at will on us and it will be embarrassing.
TechLB
November 6th, 2012
8:07 am
@ BLACK BEE – Hey, what’d you think about playing both QB’s on Saturday?
Freddie Blassie
November 6th, 2012
8:10 am
Beat Georgie and to hell with the blue nc teams.
Ignition
November 6th, 2012
8:30 am
Tech finishes the year 6-6 (Best case scenario) which is a debacle. The blame points directly towards CPJ for poor recruiting, poor game management, poor execution, an one dimensional offense, and finally an abysmal defense.
ramblingbuzz
November 6th, 2012
8:30 am
Hey Freddie………What’s shakin in the rasslin world? GT wins at UNC this Sat. Team is more focused on he road than at home. Start Lee and leave him in unless he doesn’t move the team. I appreciate TW and his contributions to GT, but now is the time to turn the team over to his sucessor.
Why start a QB who will not be here next year...
November 6th, 2012
8:37 am
…and take your pick as to whom I am referring…
DOC 51
November 6th, 2012
8:40 am
GT hasn’t stopped a good running back all year,much less a solid passing attack.We don’t have one guy,on either side of the ball,that is having an ALL-ACC type season.It’s all our coaches can do to get the players to hustle every play?
The Dulous, '70
November 6th, 2012
8:51 am
Although I think we all know who will start at QB this weekend, I still say give the ball to Vad and tell him it’s his team now…….get him all the experience possible to get him ready for next year.
As for the kicking game, poor recruiting has put us at a major disadvantage there. Think about how important that part of the game is…….LOTS of points to be had by a solid kicker!
Next three games will be hard to win. N.C. on the road, a much improved Duke team that we barely beat in Durham last year, and a Ga. team that is loaded with solid recruits. Hope we win them all, especially the Ga. game. THWG!
DOC 51
November 6th, 2012
8:51 am
The key word for this team is underachievement.Maybe our punter will lineup closer to the LOS so we wll get another punt blocked.I’m sure B.SNODDY won’t see any action.He is too elusive and dangerous.
Nativebird
November 6th, 2012
8:51 am
Wow. this has worked so well, let’s keep the question of who will be the starting HEAD COACH up in the air as well.
L.A Jacket
November 6th, 2012
8:55 am
Great Article Ken.
Is there any word on Miami’s possible bowl ban.
JM
November 6th, 2012
9:03 am
UNC will be a much bigger challenge. GT really needs the defense to step up and make stops.
10per
November 6th, 2012
9:07 am
I am not concerned so much with who is going to start anymore. I think anyone can see what CPJ is going to do (the same as before).
What I really want to see is Days in at A back making those hard runs again.
Vad the Impaler
November 6th, 2012
9:08 am
Ken you really do a great job covering the Jackets. Wish you could replace Dinch over at ESPN… Though I am getting used to her, not saying I like it…just accepting it…
Ken Sugiura
November 6th, 2012
9:14 am
L.A. Jacket – nothing yet. nothing will happen officially until miami becomes bowl eligible. i’ll put up something in a little bit.
A-mazed
November 6th, 2012
9:16 am
OK, Dodd Squad, I’ll bite. What stats are you referring to for your decision that VL is doing better than TW? Passing yards? Who is Vad going to throw to, backs out of the backfield? Just saying…. Everybody thinks they are smarter than the coach.
GO JACKETS!
Admiral Obvious
November 6th, 2012
9:31 am
Paul Johnson will coach them up! LMAO!
GT79MD83
November 6th, 2012
9:35 am
Coaches make many bad decisions and often get fired for doing them repeatedly.CPJ has made a lot of bad decisions this year in close games which has led to losses. I basically like CPJ but he is inflexible at times.
Buzzer Beater
November 6th, 2012
9:40 am
Ken,
Why do you not use proper grammar?
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
9:40 am
We need to quit worrying about the next 3 games and just worry about UNC..it is the only game that matters..if we win that game..big things can happen, but if we lose most everything to play for goes out the window..everyone says that UNC is goign to kill us..UNC is as up and down as we are..they beat Miami and VT but loses to WF..it makes me laugh to all the people who think Duke is this great team..they started 5-1 and best win was against a 5-4 WF team..they get outscored 145 to 47 by clemson, VT and FSU..
The UGA fans are showing their true colors as always and proving how big of idiots that really are..they are going on GT blogs and bashing GT and saying we are going to get killed the next 2 games and then getting smoked against them..if they had any sense at all they would realize UGA needs Tech to win the next 2 games to help their strenght of schedule..a 6-5 GT team will help them more than a 4-7 team..leave it up to a mutt not to understand that
matt
November 6th, 2012
9:50 am
middle tennessee state
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
9:56 am
A-mazed: are you serious? Well, I’ll bite:
Vad Lee: more yards/attempt, better TD/INT ratio, higher QB rating, higher yards/rush, ZERO turnovers, and, most importantly, more points/drive.
Any other questions?
matt
November 6th, 2012
9:57 am
2005 Emerald Utah 10-38 L
2006 Gator West Virginia 35-38 L
2007 Humanitarian Fresno State 28-40 L
2008 Chick-fil-A LSU 3-38 L
2009 Orange Iowa 14-24 L
2010 Independence Air Force 7-14 L
2011 Sun Utah (OT) 27-30 L
Old Dog
November 6th, 2012
9:59 am
To hell with Tek, today,tomorrow and every other day!
North Ave Killer Beez
November 6th, 2012
10:04 am
That power house defense over in Blacksburg, VA is ranked 51st overall and even worse against the run. That whistling dixie coach of ours refused to make any changes then and still refuses to now. Yes GT79 I would say he’s a bit inflexible. Some in-game adjustments would have been nice, maybe a few subs at one postition in particular. Who know’s the whole season could have been different.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
10:30 am
North Ave Killer Beez……………………your woman’s D was ranked #4,090,660 in the ATL metro but hell you were able to score on her…..Stranger things have happened.
GT Lee
November 6th, 2012
10:44 am
To hell with Old Dog today,tomorrow and every other day!
ATLIEN
November 6th, 2012
10:51 am
Duke is better than UNC according to the scoreboard.
Surely, you jest GT Joe...
November 6th, 2012
11:00 am
“Vad Lee: more yards/attempt, better TD/INT ratio, higher QB rating, higher yards/rush, ZERO turnovers, and, most importantly, more points/drive.”
Against what, 2nd and 3rd teamers WHEN he gets to play – and his stats are for what, less than three quarters of one complete game when all his playing time is added together?
Quit embarrassing yourself…
Justpassingthru
November 6th, 2012
11:08 am
Thanks Gray, two mules fighting over a turnip made me really LOL.
juan carlos diego raul sanchez
November 6th, 2012
11:09 am
here is an idea PLAY BOTH!!!! the QB in this offence needs to be fresh. Neither one is as big and strong as Josh was…
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
11:13 am
90%+ of Vad time was vs. 1st stringers. and when he did play 2nd stringers, his teammates were also 2nd stringers. Fool.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
11:15 am
Every scoring drive for Vad was vs. 1st stringers. Prove me wrong.
Surely, you jest GT Joe...
November 6th, 2012
11:32 am
…you left out the part to prove you wrong about “his stats are for what, less than three quarters of one complete game when all his playing time is added together?” – that is like being the tallest midget, which is about the size of your mind – and probably other things…
pine
November 6th, 2012
11:41 am
Wow! What great focus most of you have.The offense, with the exception of the BYU and MT games has NEVER been the problem. Scoring poinst has not been the problem all year.Thus, even if Eli Manning were the starting quarterback the record would be no better. The problem has been the DEFENSE. Remember Al Groh…oh yeah he’s gone. I wonder why? Oh that’s right it was because of the GT quarterback right? Naw, it was because our defense could not stop the OTHER team’s quarterback and offense. TW, Vad whomever has not been the issue.Turn your attention to IF GT can stop the other team. For what it is worth, TW led a drive against VT that put us up with 52 seconds to go only to see the defense allow VT to drive and tie the game. Granted, TW threw an interception in overtime but the game wasn’t over then. All the defense needed to do was get a stop in overtime and force a field goal. First VT play goes 24 yards in OT. next play is TD. That’s defense. Same thing with Miami. TW led drive to put us ahead. Defense collapsed again. Both TW and Vad are capable in their own measures. Truly, TW knows through experience how to check down the defenses better which could be an edge against a good NC team. For that purpose and knowing that CPJ will run the TO more than he will call sweeps and passes against a team that can stop the sweep, know who gives GT the best chance to win. Support the team and cheer on who really needs your inspirational insight (I mean hindsight)…the DEFENSE!
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
11:41 am
Pretty amazing, Vad played less than 3 quarters according to you, or about 8% of the season.
In just 8% of the season, Vad has 30% of Tevin’s pass yards and 64% of Tevin’s rush yards.
A-mazing.
Jmonty
November 6th, 2012
11:46 am
The issue is you never know which UNC team will show up. I hope we get the UNC team that lost to Duke. It’s about the only way, we’ll win. TW throws too many interceptions. Just have to hope that our defense can stop UNC’s RB. If they can, we may have a chance. This game is pretty much what will determine whether we go to a bowl or not. If we win, we have a chance. If we lose… might as well forget about it.
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
11:55 am
GT Joe..Vad had 3 series in the BYU game..his first 2 series were with 1st string and he got a fg that had 45 yards of flags..if are you watching GT games saying 90+ against 1st string..it wasn’t until the MTSU game that he evern played against 1st stringers..if you are a stud and you are playing with 2nd stringers and against 2nd stringers you should shine..Vad plays well but why dont we let him grow up over time..why throw him out and HOPE he doesnt fall on his face..he is very successful at what he is soing so why not keep it there..his numbers were not much different than TW on overall team production against Maryland..
GT Fan
November 6th, 2012
12:04 pm
Did the coaches select Matt Connors as the ST Player of the Week b/c his one ST tackle was the only ST tackle made vs. the Terps. LOL
ST, to put it lightly, has been below avg this season.
Gt4life
November 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
Gt joe can you go one post without asking for vad? Are you just a uga troll trying to get us mad?
usjacket
November 6th, 2012
12:11 pm
A blind man can see that Vad should be the starter.
pine
November 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
Sounds like what you are saying GT Joe is that Vad is a one man show! Really! Wow! We should just let him do it all then pass, catch, run, kick, oh yeah let’s not forget tackle and get third down stops…maybe he can do that too. Don’t skew stats to make your own what appears to be personal vendetta that you have been driving all year. Perhaps, TW makes the whole offense better because what I hear you saying with your skewed stats is that the other players aren’t touching the ball when VAD is in. That’s NOT what the TO is designed to do. Did you see the last TD drive that TW led saturday. You should watch how he distributed the ball, especially on the TD pitch near the goal line to Godhigh. That’s one more reason why he remains the starter. He knows how to distribute the ball much better at this tage of his career than Vad. Vad will learn…in time…and in practice. Remeber when Synjyn was the backup? I do and I remember the comments: “He keeps the ball too much. He needs to learn how to pitch”, That’s experience in the offense we run. That’s why TW is the man against better defenses.CPJ will not abandon the TO. It is why he was hired. TW runs it better.
pine
November 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
I am so thankful that a blind man CAN’t see.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
9:30 on CSS the Tech replay happens…….Please see what VAD does Good and what he does BAD……Watch his Pitches…………He is not good at the Option Pitch of the TO……Can he Pass? Yes…..Given blocking. ..Can he RUN? Yes…..If they stop the A-Back up the middle. If they let the A-back go will VAD make the read to give the ball? maybe.
VAD is our chance to move to a more Spread Option passing game but Tech has to be good at the TO to make the LBs and DEs BITE on the inside run.
GT79MD83
November 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
In all of our close losses TW like the defense failed in the 4th Quarter or in OT. When our defense is as bad as it is we have to rely on TW or whomever is QB to make plays when they count in the close games.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
12:30 pm
I just read the Fox5 Atlanta question if we should elect the Prez on the POPULAR Vote instead of the Electoral College……… http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151123007620823&set=a.60444555822.85148.43279570822&type=1&theater ………..and the PEOPLE think it should be POPULAR VOTE…..now most are showing a government high school as their educational level…but why don’t we go POPULAR VOTE for the TECH QB……I am SURE the FOOTBALL Educational Level of the voters will be a lot lower than the Coach or the people saying the Prez should be elected like American idol.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
12:32 pm
GT79MD83////////////////////////// Name the GAME and where the EXACT time it was TEVIN’S FAULT.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
12:34 pm
IF………………..IF………………..IF…………….TECH wins this weekend I don’t want to hear form MANY of you……..IF………IF………….IF…………Tech then beats DUKE……………then I want many of you to go but Ga State or UGa tickets…………..
Surely, you jest GT Joe...
November 6th, 2012
12:50 pm
Career stats –
TW – 155 of 304 passing for 2991 yards for 17 TDs and 14 int’s; plus, 485 rushes for 2052 yds and 34 TD’s
VL – 12 for 24 passing for 277 yds with 2 TDs and 0 int’s; plus, 47 rushes for 322 yds and 6 TD’s
Yep, VL is a miracle worker…
GEORGIA FAN
November 6th, 2012
12:59 pm
Please keep Paul Johnson forever!
Nativebird
November 6th, 2012
1:00 pm
Hmmm….should I choose the recliner or the nice upright with the umbrella on the deck of this Titanic?
old dog
November 6th, 2012
1:01 pm
As some of you have pointed out, we do in fact need for ya’ll to do well….it will make us look better, and besides, it is good for the state of Georgia as a whole. It ain’t happening under the present system, because you have an athlete playing at the QB position instead of a QB playing the positon. As our line is our o-line is our Achilles heel, the fact that a real D-1 quality QB ain’t coming to the offense you run is why your talent level has gone down, not up! I wish ya’ll the best, and I’m not the average troll, but the QB controversy now is like who should start at center for the Hawks: Danny DiVito or Mickey Rooney! Nesbitt was actually a great passing QB in high-school, and he did fair-to-middlin’ at Tech….he coulda’ been better than his passing stats showed…..I know…..I saw him in high school. TW is as quality a kid as there is….a great person and a fine young man and leader. But folks, he ain’t a D-1 QB…………
old dog
November 6th, 2012
1:04 pm
“As our line is our o-line” sentence….sorry……brain f#rt! I know….happens to us ‘Dawgs from time to time! Bottom line….get a real system, a real QB, and bring Tech back to some glory days….it will be good for everybody!
Stinger 1
November 6th, 2012
1:08 pm
GT Joe and all other Vad Lee proponents: CPJ is in his office right now taking notes
about all of your advice. He always listens to the fans. You have made his decision as to who will start very easy. It will be Tevin. You spoke he listend. He will do NOT what he heard.
TeknocratNOTdemokrat
November 6th, 2012
1:17 pm
Dude, wassup with all the trolls??? GT can beat the smurfs if the D shows up – GT WILL score on the smurfs, I don’t care what they say. nc is NOT BYU, regardless of what they think. We should beat the dookies too as long as the D shows up. It’s pretty much in the hands of the D from here on out. I wish I could say the same for the dwags game, but I just odn’t think we’ve got the hosses for that one…regardless, we always play them tuff, Gailey notwithstanding.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
1:25 pm
Stinger: don’t think CPJ didn’t hear the boos at BDS during the BYU game. You know, right before he put in Vad? LOL. CPJ listens more than you think. He hired an ST coach after everyone was on his back about ST, and after he defended his decision not to hire one for 2 years. He also intro’d the pistol this year. He hears us. He doesn’t live in a vacuum.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
1:26 pm
Shirley: career stats? what a loser. That’s when you know you don’t have an argument to stand on.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
1:29 pm
5150: I’ve read your complaints about Vad’s pitching. FIRST, the TO is run on less than 20% of the plays. That’s what CPJ says.
2nd, I’ve seen more bad pitches from Tevin than Vad. What you need to focus on is TURNOVERS. If Vad was so bad at pitching, then why does he have ZERO turnovers?
And as for reads, bottom line is, CPJ said they both rated almost identically. That means that Tevin is no better at the option game than Vad. Period.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
1:30 pm
Take the Wheel: how many handles are you gonna use? LOL.
Pine, A-mazed, Shirley, what a joke.
Mudcatjoe
November 6th, 2012
1:51 pm
I wish Tevin Washington would ride the pine the rest of the season. It makes me sick to watch him grab all the glory after the other backs do all the work to get the ball into scoring range! I guarantee you if the ball is inside the 3 yd. line, it’s going to be a Washington keeper. I wish the opposing teams could figure this out. He has one thing in mind when they get close to the goal line, and that’s stealing Josh Nesbitt’s well deserved TD record away from him. If you checked all his TD runs, I bet 90% of them came from 3 yds.or less! Bench him Coach!
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
2:02 pm
GT JOE……..the TO is the BASE…and EXACTLY how many plays have you seen that are run that were not started from the OPTION? Not the TRIPLE OPTION but the Option? the Option is a read the A-back handoff the QB keeper based on the END of the Pitch…Does VAD do that WELL? NO
the TO involves the same run reads and the ability to STOP and make a PASS. VAD doesn’t read the RUN options well enough to get the pass open.
4 Jacks
November 6th, 2012
2:12 pm
What is the problem. Tevin a senior and gone and there is nothing left to play for this year anyway, unless you could beat the ugaggers and that ain’t happening. Why not play Vad and get as much experience and ready for next year as possible. Johnson is just to stubborn for his and the teams own good. Maybe another year like this and we can get back to playing some real football with someone who really does care about making Tech a better team without trying to prove his 1 AA or whatever they call it now that stupid offense, and oh by the way does anyone down on the flats have one effing clue about real defense?
Tech Troll 13
November 6th, 2012
2:12 pm
Mudcatjoe can read minds. BTW I thought CPJ called the plays. Lee must also be selfish, since he ran in two TDs on Saturday. Keyboard coaches don’t have a clue.
GT79MD83
November 6th, 2012
2:14 pm
5150 UOAD –Interception In OT In VT game.A senior QB should not throw the ball up for grabs.He did have a good drive in the 4th Quarter of that game.Final offensive play in OT in Miami game on the 1 yardline.He changed the play fom a toss to QB follow thru after the Miami defense shifts. When they shift back he admitted to running the play anyway and trying to do it on his own.Poor decision that CPJ said he was not happy with.Poor play in the 4th Quarter of the Clemson game when we were ahead.Defense actually caused turnovers which we failed to take advantage of. Underthrown passes to wide open receivers(MTSU and Miami games). I do agree that with better defensive play those games should have been won.TW is the QB and is accountable for his decisions and performance not the defenses.Because he is QB he is held more accountable.
Tech Troll 13
November 6th, 2012
2:18 pm
4 Jacks must be a quitter. I’m glad he doesn’t play or coach for us.
CT_Jacket
November 6th, 2012
2:20 pm
I was impressed how Lee went through his progressions when he dropped back. You could see him scanning the field before we pulled the ball down and scrambled. Lee also seems to have more “escapability.” Tevin seems to lock in on one receiver and starts to scramble before the pressure is even close. I think that next year, with Lee and this group of A backs, we see more of the Run and Shoot in the offense.
My impression Saturday was that we ran the sweep more when VL was in and the option more when TW was in. A Maryland defender even said that we went away from what we usually do.
I don’t mind playing both to keep the defenses guessing.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
2:25 pm
GT79MD83
November 6th, 2012
2:14 pm
5150 UOAD –Interception In OT In VT game.A senior QB should not throw the ball up for grabs
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Tevin NEVER should have been in the position with 44 sec left….That was GROH and the D’s fault. Game was OVER with 1 D play.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
2:26 pm
5150: not all plays we run are option plays. You have no idea what the play calls are, so you can’t say whether or not Vad reads things right or not. There are called b-back and called a-back runs.
Plus, you are confusing the triple option (a play) with our base formation. Out of our base formation, we can run options, triple options, passes, etc.
And the triple option has nothing to do with a pass. It’s 1. QB run, 2., bback run, or 3 aback pitch. Get it? 3 = triple. If a pass was an option, that would be a quadruple option.
In the end, all you need to be concerned about is that Vad and Tevin both rated near identical. So all this garbage about TW running the option better than Vad is just that…garbage. They are nearly equals. In fact, it MIGHT have been Vad who scored a couple points higher.
That said, if both are equal at the option, but Vad is a far superior runner and passer, then the starting QB is a no-brainer. One would think.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
2:29 pm
GT79MD83…Final offensive play in OT in Miami game on the 1 yardline.He changed the play fom a toss to QB follow thru after the Miami defense shifts. When they shift back he admitted to running the play anyway and trying to do it on his own.
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Again IF the D makes a FEW plays Washington is GOLDEN. Yes he made a bad choice but again IT SHOULDN’T have even been a issue.
Is Washington GREAT? NO but he could be 6-2 with ease IF the groh D did their job just a little in the 4th quarter.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
2:29 pm
5150: You are the one always with the “ifs”. Like “IF” the D got a stop, Tevin wouldn’t have been in that position vs. VT.
How about this IF: IF Tevin didn’t lead us to FIVE 3 and outs against the #51 defense in the country, VT, We wouldn’t have even HAD to need a defensive tackle with 44 seconds left.
Do you see how stupid the “IF” game is?
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
2:32 pm
5150: More IFs? LOL.
Here’s an IF for the Miami game: IF tevin could have led us to just a FG in the last 27 minutes of the Miami game, we wouldn’t have even gone to OT.
IF game is dumb. Just quit it.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
2:32 pm
GT JOE what you said is the OPTION. not the TO. EVERY OPTION has the Options you described…..Try again. The TO is not what you described. What you described it the OPTION… So How can you say we are not TO as you did in your earlier post?
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
2:34 pm
The TO…………………..is Run Pitch Pass………….that is the TO.
Run the middle
Run the QB
Make the Pitch is NOT the TO you FOOL.
THWG
November 6th, 2012
2:34 pm
Vad might not get all the snaps this weekend, or against Duke, but I will have a problem is he isn’t in the entire time against UGA. THWG
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
2:35 pm
GT JOE …………………………Show Up…………….Shut Up…………….or MAN UP.
GT79MD83
November 6th, 2012
2:41 pm
5150 UOAD– I totally agree. We do not however score many points in the 4th Quarter and OT of any games against decent opponents since and including last years UGA game.It shows in our W-L record since then.Some of that rests on the shoulders of the QB playing and some rests on CPJs playcalling.To overcome our poor defensive play we need good QB play for 4 quarters and in OT.You will always lose when you score no points in OT.Both the offense and the defense need to play better when it counts.
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
2:45 pm
For everyone that says TW lost the VT and the Miami game..what would you be saying if I told you that Vad throw a TD with less than 1:30 to go in game to take the lead and during that drive successfully throw a pass on 4th down but we lose in OT after the defense give up a TD in last 30 sec and a TD in overtime..Vad then turns around and give Tech a 17 point lead in the 4th quater after being down 19 at one point and the Tech loses..EVERYONE OF YOU would say the defense let Vad down..he had us in position to win and defense didn’t make plays..but since it is TW that did it we look for plays to blame him
GT Joe..just because they graded the same doesn’t mean they played the same..that means they did about the same on the excution of the play..Vad doesn’t have as much play book as TW so his margin for error is smaller
Tech Troll 13
November 6th, 2012
2:50 pm
5150
GT Joe quote “I’ve never had season tickets and I never will”. He’s not going to show up. He boos from his recliner.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
2:52 pm
5150: For someone on here so much talking about GT football, you sure have a lack of understanding of the triple option. What a fool you are. The pass is not a part of the triple option play.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/291342-paul-johnsons-spread-option-a-beginners-guide
Man up….read up….learn up…then shut up.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
2:56 pm
GT TN: boy you sure have excuses for everything. Smaller playbook? What are you, a mindreader? Are you listening in on CPJ’s headset? WTF.
Vad does more with his “limited” playbook than TW does with his “expanded” playbook. And that’s all that matters.
And if Vad threw a stupid INT to cost us the game, I wouldn’t be on here making excuses for him. A bonehead play is a bonehead play. man up.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
2:57 pm
I wouldn’t buy season tix because i’d rather watch games at home. Better views, better food, cheaper, and not a hassle to get there. But I WOULD go to more games when Vad starts playing.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
2:58 pm
the SPREAD part of the TO this the PASS……………………
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
3:00 pm
GT JOE that is not the TRUTH…………..NOBODY likes you and you have no friends that want to spend time at the games with you…………..C’mon man we know the truth. We have invited you but you cry and hide.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
3:01 pm
5150, is english a 2nd language for you? I’m not trying to insult you, just curious, because half your posts make no sense. Let me help you with reading:
The basic “triple option,” more specifically called the “Inside Veer,” utilizes three potential ball carriers to remove two defenders from the play. If executed correctly, the defenders who are the two option reads can never make the tackle; the ball always goes away from them.
First the quarterback keys on the dive read, either giving the ball to the running back or keeping the ball himself based on what the dive read does. One player down. If he still has the ball the quarterback keys on the pitch read. He either keeps the ball himself or pitches the ball to the wingback based on the pitch read’s actions. Two players down.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
3:02 pm
Ga Southern NEVER PASSED…………… HAWAII Never passed…………….NAVY NEVER passed………….the TO has no passing as part of the TO……………
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
3:02 pm
5150: it shocks me that you watch so many games IN PERSON and post thousands of times here, and yet have NO CLUE what the most basic CPJ play is!
You have just been exposed as a complete and total fool!
Uh, I hate to admit this...
November 6th, 2012
3:08 pm
…but I have to agree with GT Joe and his argument with POAD about the triple option –
But, then again, POAD just said that the “pass” was the 3rd option in the “spread” offense, so he may be trying to compare apples to oranges when comparing the Tech TO to the OR and WV TO…
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
3:12 pm
GT Joe..I’m not a mind reader..I listen to what CPJ says..he says that Vad has a set number of plays..you have to be one the the stupidest guys on the interent and that is saying alot.. you give reason why you don’t go to the games and then turn around and say why would go if 1 person was playing..you aren’t a GT fan you are Vad’s want to be daddy..every coach in America will tell you that they don’t have the same playbook for every qb..you are sitting on the couch watching football on saturday just like you sat in the band and watched it on friday night..
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
3:19 pm
GT TN: you SHOULD listen to what CPJ says. He says they graded out the same. That means that there is absolutely NOTHING that Tevin is better than Vad at. Nada. Your ONE argument for TW was that he executes better. NOT the CASE.
Did he say that the playbook was smaller for Vad vs. Maryland? No. But go ahead and make up some stuff.
Vad probably has a bigger playbook than TW now, because Vad can actually throw the ball.
Regardless, if you think Tevin is the better QB, YOU are the stupidest person on the internet. PRobably took a few too many shots to the head in peewee football.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
3:21 pm
I know it’s hard for all you numb nuts to admit I was right about Vad all along. But ya’ll should MAN UP.
Hey 5150: still studying the triple option? you’re MIA. At least study up so you don’t get exposed again by me.
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
3:30 pm
GT Joe..do you have any idea how a play is graded..im not making anything up..a play can be ran for a 40 yard gain or a 2 yard game and get the same grade..just as a DB can be graded on a play that is a 15 yard completion and get same grade on a incompletion..it isn’tdetermined by how many yards the play gains..I have always said that VAD does things better than TW..he is a better passer and has more speed..however I don’t think the runs the offense as good as TW overall and what is hurting playing both guys..it makes DC from other teams have to look at different things..if you throw Vad out there and he can only do certain things then the other D will zone in on that and he will not be as succesful..What was wrong with what TW did on saturday..they both played great and we scored..do you really think that CPJ wouldn’t start Vad if he thought Vad gave us a better chance of winning..he makes his living coaching and no matter how much you or I want GT to win..i promise he wants it more
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
3:34 pm
GT TN: I know what “grading plays” means. I know that it has nothing to do with the outcome of the play, just the execution. You have always said (and just now said) that you don’t think Vad runs the offense as well as TW. Yet, CPJ just said they graded out the same. I.e., they executed the same. I.e., Vad executed as well as Tevin.
So my question to you is this: If Vad executes the same as TW, is there ANY reason to start TW?
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
3:39 pm
GTJoe..just like I said before..CPJ has said that Vad has select plays..that means he doesn’t have the enitre playbook..TW does have the complete playbook so he can do somethings that Vad can’t at this time..I thing Vad is going to be a great QB..why don’t we let him continue to grow instead of throwing him out there with a limited playbbok and play the whole game..tell me what TW did on Saturday to make it where Vad should start over him
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
3:47 pm
I don’t think TW has the complete playbook either. There are probably dozens of pass plays that CPJ just wouldn’t call for Tevin, but would for Vad.
As far as the MD game, I even said last week that Tevin would have a great game, because that’s what he does against inferior opponents. But his game was unspectacular, unnoticeable, he could have staked a claim to the job, but he did nothing to show he was better. In fact, every stat was better for Vad. EVERY ONE. and Vad led more scoring drives.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
3:56 pm
You are worried about Vad’s confidence, throwing him out there too early? You should note that he has no problems in the confidence category. Just watch him play. Kid is not scared, he brings big time energy, after every play he’s hyped up, teammates get hyped up, and that’s contagious. Yes, even to our defensive players.
He should start AT UGA. He’s a gamer, fears no one. Never met the kid, but I can see it on TV clear as day.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:01 pm
And for the record, I think the North Carolina kid gets the start at UNC.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:02 pm
UOAD: still studying the triple option? LOL. I can help you with the big words.
GT Fan
November 6th, 2012
4:09 pm
2 OT losses … both vs. Coastal opps. 1 play (4th & 4) vs. VT, and the 4th qtr vs. Miami.
If GT can find a way to win just one of these (I choose UM) look where they are with a W on Sat.
Beat Miami, and a W vs. UNC on Sat almost certainly wins the Coastal for GT (b/c Duke will finish with 4 Ls, and VT probably Ls to FSU on Thurs.).
Ifs and buts …..
BTW, where’s Brave Hokie et.al. that thought I was crazy back in August when I said, “win or lose vs. GT, VT will finish 3rd or worse in the Coastal” ?
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
4:10 pm
GT Joe..that is funny..stats I looked at don’t look that far off..don’t think Vad was spectacular or noticeable..both completed 1 pass and Vad for 19 more yards..Vad ran for more yards but rushed 3 times as much for a less yards per carry than TW..so Vad didn’t blow away in stats…Vad lead 3 drives and TW lead 2..2 of the 3 Vad drives for TD’s were from the Maryland side of the field..he went the length of the field only 1 time..TW went on 69 yard drives for both of his scores..i don’t see where Vad just out shined TW
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:19 pm
Let’s see TN: pick your favorite qb:
QB #1: more rush yards, more pass yards, more pass yards/attempt, more total yards, more TDs, more scoring drives, led offense to more offensive yards….. OR
QB #2: more rush yards/attempt
(crickets)
GT Fan
November 6th, 2012
4:19 pm
GT Joe ….
Just a reminder from me, again. GT’s problems are on D. Yeah, I believe VL is better than TW (running & throwing), but V’s shown that he doesn’t know the all the reads like TW does, and his pitches are a little erratic.
29.7 pts by GT (vs. FBS opps) is plenty. Take a look at ND if you don’t believe me.
Take out ND’s 50 vs Navy (10pts), and ND has scored more than 30 only ONCE (Miami, 41-3). If GT scores 41 vs. Miami they still lose.
ND, 30pts vs Oklahoma, was plenty b/c their D held OU to 13
ND, 29pts vs Pitt, was enough b/c their D held Pitt to 26.
If GT’s D holds Miami, MTSU, and Clemson to 26 pts 36, 28, and 31 gives GT 3 more Ws, 3 less Ls.
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
4:24 pm
You are picking your stats off 1 pass completed for 26 and 1 for 5..I thought you said he blows TW away..BTW Vad didn’t lead tech in more yards from srcimmage..Vad ran more times so that is why he had more rushing yards..the passing is a wash..if is funny you are using passing stats when you say that Vad is a great passing QB..Vad hasn’t lead a drive for a td outside of the Pres game where he lead a rive longer than 69 yards
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
4:27 pm
and 1 maryland drive
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
4:34 pm
GT JOE………….try again.
Define the Tripe option please
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
4:36 pm
Johnson has said the have not run the TO on many plays
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:37 pm
Vad DID lead tech to more yards. Add up the drives in the Maryland game, Vad led Tech to 84 more yards than Tevin.
And Vad only had 2 pass attempts, I Believe, because CPJ wanted to test him on option plays (which he graded out identically) vs. passing.
Not sure what you are yapping about regarding longest drive, Vad had the longest drive of the maryland game too. 78 yards. Just quit while you’re behind.
St. Richt
November 6th, 2012
4:37 pm
Come on coach! What games are you watching that we aren’t watching? Vad Lee is the future- Tevin is a serviceable backup with only a handful of games left in a lost season. And please don’t tell me that we can still win the ACC. Its not gonna happen- especially with Tevin at QB. Put in Vad and play for the future. I’ve been a fan of CPJ but his arrogance and stubborness in not seeing the obvious in playing Vad Lee is really starting to tick me off. Vad Lee is the future and the future is now. And if our coach can’t figure that out ASAP then maybe its time for him to move on… Enough is enough- I can’t stand to see anymore 4th and shorts where Tevin comes up short. That has been a recurring nightmare now for 2 seasons.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
4:37 pm
What EXACTLY is Johnson’s definition of the TO?
Does Johnson think the PASS doesn’t exist?
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:38 pm
5150: you are back? LOL. back to get exposed again? Triple option class has already begun. Read my posts. I can’t believe you don’t know what the triple option is. Just goes to show that going to games does NOTHING for some people. LOL.
pine
November 6th, 2012
4:44 pm
Throughout all of this discussion about Vad playing or not and when he plays you guys have not been doing your homework. Have you noticed for the past four weeks that TW has been out of practice part or most of the week during those weeks? Did you notice Saturday after TW led the drive when he pitched to Godhigh for the TD after he checked off at the line (only experience can do this on the goal line) that he went to the bench with the trainers (after CPJ met him and congratulated him for the RIGHT checkoff) and was then surrounded by the doctor who kept the trainers with TW the rest of the day? Did you notice in CPJ comments in Ken’s other story that TW DID not practice Monday of this week as well? That adds up to about a month of this kid possibly being hurt and laying it on the line still for GT. He deserves much more respect than you give him GT Joe. In fact, since you quote statistics, you might want to check TW statistics out. Statisically speaking, as an individual, he ranks near the top of most categories for a Tech QB. Wow! Now, the team may not rank that high in total wins, but that has a lot to do with other position players and individuals too, not just one player. He has not had Dwyer and Bey Bey on offense with him to lighten the load. Still over the past two years the offense has ranked in the top five in the country with a supporting cast of no names. He has also not benefited from Derrick Morgan and Morgan Burnett on defense either. Who are our starting defensive ends right now? Do you know? All considered, TW has led the offense in putting points on the scoreboard.
It is good that CPJ has started playing Vad some, but I believe that role wil be limited in two of the next three games because of the level of competition. He simply is not ready for the checkoffs etc..However, looking back at how TW was thrust into action with NO real playing time when Nersbitt went down at VT two years ago, it is obvous that CPJ learned a valuable lesson…TW probably should also have been getting a few snaps when Nesbitt was still in the game long after it was basically decided. Now, Vad will be the recipient of that learning curve by CPJ…for the future…NOT THE PRESENT. That distinction belongs to TW and he has earned it over the years just like VAD will IN TIME.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:46 pm
GT Fan: you will note that CPJ said Vad and Tevin both graded out about the same. i.e., they executed the plays the same. i.e., TW doesn’t run the option any better than Vad. As for being “erratic with pitches”; that’s quite subjective, but put it this way: Vad has ZERO turnovers on pitches (or passes or runs or whatever).
Finally, regarding the D being the problem: yes, it is A problem. But the #40 scoring offense against the #60 schedule is weak if you ask me. Our defense is up to #65 in yards/game, FYI.
Notre Dame offense might be #60 in scoring, but that is against the #15 schedule.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:49 pm
pine aka TWFan aka Take the Wheel aka A-mazed:
If TW has been playing hurt, much respect. Personally, I don’t see any drop in athleticism from him on the field compared to Game 1. Looks like the same Tevin to me.
As far as checkoffs, don’t get me started on checkoffs. Does the Miami game ring a bell?
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
4:51 pm
GT JOE just shows that any AzzHole can fill a diaper……….CALL ME
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
4:54 pm
GT JOE pleas make a break down and gaMe O & D plan for beating UNC.
GO COACH tells US how you would do it.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
4:55 pm
Well UOAD: First thing I would do is make sure that all my players know what the triple option is LOL.
Are you clear on what the triple option is? Haven’t you been watching this offense for like 5 years now IN PERSON at BDS? LOL.
HINT: triple option does NOT involve passing.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
4:58 pm
I DEFER
I go on D
I run CHOU in the B gap with the 3 d fanning out to secure the pocket.
I Drop DADDY W in the flat opposite the MIKE LB.
Isiah patrolling the Mid-3/4 field with eyes on the SPEED WR.
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
5:00 pm
JOE try again.
MaconGTFan
November 6th, 2012
5:04 pm
How can a QB with a limited playbook possibly run an offense better than someone who runs the entire playbook? Just another gem from Joe’s dumbazz.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
5:07 pm
Tevin runs the entire playbook? doubtful. I bet there are dozens of pass plays that CPJ just WON’t run with Tevin.
But keep reaching.
They both graded out the same. So you last excuse to start TW is now debunked. Tevin does not execute the option plays better than Vad.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
5:08 pm
UOAD: I will not answer any of your questions until you tell me the three options in the triple option. Think of this as your final exam so you can gain some semblance of respect.
GT Joe
November 6th, 2012
5:10 pm
I think all three TW fans on the planet are right here on this blog. MaconFan, GT TN, and pine (and his multiple personalities).
What are the odds?
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
5:14 pm
Run Run Run…………Is that what you want to hear?
5150 UOAD
November 6th, 2012
5:16 pm
I think JOE is FOS and had no guts.
GT TN
November 6th, 2012
5:18 pm
GT Joe..never said Vad didn’t have the longest drive..I said outside of pres game and 1 drive against Maryland when the game was n hand..can I ask you one question that I have been asking for a while that you still won’t answer..do you think CPJ sits Vad and starts TW but thinks Vad gives us a better chance to win
pine
November 6th, 2012
5:19 pm
GT Joe I do remember the Miami checkoff…”just as he had been COACHED to do”… seems like Miami one upped CPJ not TW. You REALLY should get off the couch and see a game in person. You might understand what actually happens during the game and behind the scenes.
DS CE'91
November 6th, 2012
5:41 pm
Start Justin Thomas!!!
Sorry…. just had to break the un-bee-leave-able tension on this blog.
Carry on.
Triple option =...
November 6th, 2012
6:28 pm
…B back dive (read the DT or DE), QB run (read the DE or OLB AFTER reading the B-back dive aspect), or QB pitch (read the OLB or DB after reading the B-back dive aspect and the QB run aspect) – now POAD, was that so hard?
And, even in the OR and WV spread option pass plays are NOT an option; they are called plays that start out looking like the regular “read” option they run…
different year same result
November 6th, 2012
6:37 pm
5150, you are wrong about Hawaii never throwing the ball. When PJ was the Oc at Hawaii, they had two excellent throwing qbs in Garrett Gabriel and Warren Jones. They averaged throwing about 25 times a game and went 23-13 in those three years. This offense can throw the ball but PJ refuses to do so even though he needs to to keep opposing defenses honest.
billyho55
November 6th, 2012
7:15 pm
GT Joe,
I AM ALL IN ON VAD AS WELL! THEY WILL SEE THAT VAD IS SUPERIOR IN EVERY ASPECT EVENTUALLY! YA KNOW, IT’S KINDA LIKE THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND WITH SOME OF THESE GUYS! I CAN APPRECIATE THE LOYALTY TO TW, I REALLY CAN, BUT COME ON GUYS! TW HAS BEEN A GREAT LEADER FOR TECH AND AN EVEN BETTER PERSON BUT YOU CANNOT DENY WHAT “OPTIONS” VAD WILL BRING TO THE TABLE! USE YOUR EYEBALLS GUYS NOT YOUR HEARTS, EVEN THOUGH YOUR HEART IS NOT WRONG! USE YOUR EYES!!! I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO GET VAD IN THERE FOR GAME EXPERIENCE AS WELL! IF YOU THINK HE DOESN’T MAKE THE RIGHT READS IT WOULD BE BC OF A LIMITED AMOUNT OF GAME EXPERIENCE, WOULDN’T IT? THEREFORE HE NEEDS TO BE IN THE DAMN GAME TO GET BETTER! TW WILL NOT BE HERE NEXT YEAR BUT VAD WILL BE FOR YEARS TO COME! IF TWO PEOPLE ARE SO EQUAL IN CPJ’S EYES THEN WHY NOT PLAY THE GUY WITH THE HIGHER UPSIDE AND WHO WE WILL NEED NEXT YEAR! HE NEEDS TO GET MORE EXPERIENCE! THAT IS THE BOTTOM DAMN LINE!!!
SHOW STOPPER
November 6th, 2012
7:28 pm
The Defense wins games. Our offense is going to be good in Chapel Hill, with both Washington and Lee taking snaps. Barring fumbles, we’ll march right down the field, and do it again and again, Paul Johnson fashion.
It will run the Tarheels crazy.
But the Defense will win it, if it’s won. Our Defense is tired out and vulnerable in the fourth quarter, and that’s the quarter where the game slips away. Why? Because we’ve got only 14 good defensive players, when we need 22. Nick Saban would lose, if he had as little defensive depth as poor old Al Groh had.
GT Fan
November 6th, 2012
7:29 pm
Yo, GT Joe ….
Okay let me simply it this way …….
GT’s O does it’s thing. Then when their opp has the ball, instead of GT’s D trotting out on the field it’s ND’s D trotting out on the field.
In this simplified analogy (i.e. good D wins more than good O) what would GT’s record be?
To go 1 step further…Would ND still be undefeated if they had GT’s O? Would they be undefeated if they had GT’s D?
Those are rhetorical questions, btw.
GT Fan
November 6th, 2012
7:32 pm
Show Stopper,
Can you please explain the “D concept” to GT Joe. He’s having trouble with it.
GT Fan
November 6th, 2012
7:38 pm
Show Stopper,
In GT Joe’s mind (I guess), if GT avg’d just 3 more pts / game, from 35 to 38, they’d be just as good as Bama (38.4 pt./gm avg).
In his mind, GT is 4-5 b/c 34.8 pts (29.7 vs FBS opps) isn’t enough pts to be 9-0 like a Bama or ND.
SHOW STOPPER
November 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
GT Joe,
I have been enlisted to school you on Defense. Seems to me you need no help at all on Tech’s Offense. You have a good grasp of the Option, and why it works: outnumbering defenders, mixing up three basic plays, use of smallish Offensive linemen who can run, thus providing downfield cut blocks, wearing down the defenders by multiple plays on a drive, etc.
But I have no secret formula on Defense, other than to note that playing Defense drains away more of the players’ energy than does playing Offense. While Offense is demanding, reacting to what the opponent does is still more demanding. So with that truth in hand, it’s not hard to know that you’ve got to recruit plenty of good Defenders, if you can. If you don’t do that, your Defense gets weary, and lets the bad guys through. The good Offense then often can’t offset the damage.
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Ice eater 1969
November 7th, 2012
1:27 am
Show stopper, defense that does not attack is draining. We need to have 7 men in position to blitz 5 to 6 each time to cut down on time reading and reacting and covering receivers. 7 seconds to pass makes for a tired defense in fourth quarter. With TO we can wear them out by 4 th quarter. Plus recruiting to aggressive d vs read react d is much easier
North Avenue Rules
November 7th, 2012
7:47 am
Maybe if fans start pleading and begging CPJ to play Tevin and to NOT PLAY Vad, then CPJ will finally play Vad an entire game.
For types that are stubborn headed (CPJ), reverse psychology sometimes tends to be effective…
GT Joe
November 7th, 2012
10:27 am
GT TN: to answer your question, I don’t think that CPJ sits Vad even though he thinks Vad is better. I’ve said this a thousand times, I think CPJ is mistaken on who gives the team a better chance to win.
He sees them in practice every day. Fine. But we see them every saturday. game day performance is more important than practice performance. old school coaches are stubborn about this.
But as you have seen, the fans can see who is better. When the boo birds came out, CPJ had to go against his instincts and go with Vad. And now we are seeing Vad blossom in front of us. And now CPJ can’t fight it anymore. Sadly, Vad could have been blossoming last year, we’ve basically thrown away this season on Tevin.
GT Joe
November 7th, 2012
10:33 am
GT Fan: yes, defense is a problem. but there is no easy fix to our defensive problems. maybe talent, schemes, etc., lots of issues there.
BUT on OFFENSE? Just one problem. JUST ONE. It’s not talent. Not the scheme, it’s one problem. It’s an easy fix. It’s the QB.
When we needed our offense to do something, absolutely HAD TO HAVE IT, the offense failed. OT at VT. OT vs. Miami. ENTIRE 2nd HALF of Miami. 2nd half of MTSU game. BYU, 3 offensive points? Come on, you can’t be blind. 56 vs. UVA and 59 vs. Presby is blinding you to the fact that our offense can’t score WHEN WE NEED IT.
The low hanging fruit to make our team better? Change the QB.
Defense? This is likely a multi-year fix.
North Ave Killer Beez
November 7th, 2012
10:37 am
5150 you still haven’t scored EVER!! probably for the same reason you want to stick with TW. You like being a loser.
GT Joe
November 7th, 2012
10:40 am
Also GT FAn: you ignore the fact that we are #40 in scoring offense against the #62 schedule. In other words, our offense is barely above AVERAGE, taking into account our average schedule difficulty.
Take your ND analogy. Trot our offense out against ND’s #15 schedule and see what happens. Our scoring will be BELOW average.
Trot out ND’s offense against our #60 schedule and ND might be #2 in the country right now.
North Ave Killer Beez
November 7th, 2012
10:41 am
GT FAN: The offense does it’s thing against horrible teams. Miami is not good but yes the offense did it’s thing. However TW did his thing as well. Choked when we needed him most. Just like he did at VT, only he choked the entire game there.
GT Joe
November 7th, 2012
10:41 am
Easy Beez, UOAD is still learning what the triple option his, had to teach him yesterday. After all those years of season tix, still learning….LOL.
North Ave Killer Beez
November 7th, 2012
10:54 am
I’m always easy, but this guy was booz-n while blogging @ me on pg. 2 I can’t blame him for the boozing hard, he’s had to watch Tevin all season.
GT Joe
November 7th, 2012
11:18 am
GT TN: It’s official, CPJ just said that Vad has the same playbook at Tevin, there are no “special” playbooks for Vad, he runs every play that Tevin does.
And they basically graded out equally on execution. And we all know Vad is a better passer and runner.
So if anyone thinks Tevin should start, you’re a fool.
Buzzed
November 7th, 2012
11:37 am
Think UOAD has been skooled! He has resorted to name calling (”FOS” and “no guts”) and gone away. Thanks, Joe. If only that would work with Super Mutt.
BBQ MAN
November 7th, 2012
7:51 pm
THWG