Johnson responds to critics

Oh boy. This should generate some comments.

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Oh, and I love these comments by CPJ. The man knows what he’s doing and I’ve got all the faith in the world that he’s going to take us in the right direction.

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‘Hey, we run five or six plays and we do variations.’

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this is nice to hear:

“I try to do what Vad (Lee) can do better as opposed to forcing something else…But we try to run the plays that give us the best chance to win the game”

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If every team executed every play, no-one would lose. I don’t really care how close we have been. All that matters is “did we win the game”. In the last 14 games we have 3 wins. That body of work speaks loudly that something isn’t right. Everything rises and falls on leadership. So CPJ, it’s your fault–period.

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What I have found amusing over the years is the number of people who have coached zero games in college football who know more about it than a coach of 30 years.

Just like me, an old history major, knowing more about any engineering problem than any GT grad ever thought about knowing.

Oh, and did I mention how dumb Mike Smith is?

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Finally, he speaks up and defends himself! (not that he should have to) All of the so-called “tech fans” have been drilling this guy for weeks because they think they are smarter than him… Like coach says, he’s been coaching for 34 years and hasn’t gotten fired… he’s not going to all of the sudden listen to a bunch of old, pissed off Alum’s. It’s time for the real tech fans to stand together and support this team! I’d rather have 35,000 dedicated tech fans who know how to win and lose with the team than to have a packed stadium every week (like UGA) who quit on the team as soon as they have a loss. These older TECH Alum’s (some of them) have nothing better to do than complain, whether it’s about the new jerseys, the AD leaving, or CPJ not playing Vad. Everybody please, just support this team! Let’s not forget how bad things were when Gailey was here, at least we now have a coach who will argue his case

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GT is destroyed by BYU on Homecoming. GT suffers one its worst defeats in the 100 year history of the school to Middle Tennesse State. I’ve never heard a coach on the college or pro level play the game of shoulda, coulda, woulda to this level. Paul Johnson’s record at Tech has continued to decline. Next year will be his last.

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GT Fan 4 Life-

So when fans are outspoken and not pleased with whats going on and they voice those issues that is “GIVING UP” on your team???? When you want a coach and an Institution held accountable for the pile of crap that it is, that is “GIVING UP” on your team??? You need to wake up my friend, I have been supporting this Institution for 42 years and will continue to but there better be some changes because we are nothing more than a 1AA school in football and basketball and its sad……

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Tevin’s record is under .500.. The Kid does not give you the best chance to win.. Vad is far more talented and to win in D1 football you have to play TALENT.. CPJ needs to go back to a So. Con team where he belongs

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I’ve managed to survive for 34 years doing what I’m doing without getting fired and we’ve won a lot of games. If I’m going to go down, I’m going to go down doing what I do and knowing what I know. So that’s it in a nutshell

There is this wild theory called evolution. I can go into detail, the real fact is that against teams with better athletes we simply get shut down on a relative basis.

Coach Johnson is going from the top left to the bottom right as to winning and he should drop the ego of “coaching up 3 stars” and only running a handful of plays. Also anyone who doesn’t think he rolled the dice to fully hand the D to Groh so he could play around with his master offense.

Enjoyed the Pepper years with Shamburger, Ivery Enjoyed the Curry years with Gary Lee, enjoyed, of course Ross with a lot of great players, enjoyed O’Leary with a number of great players, enjoyed Johnson with Gailey players, DO NOT enjoy watching Johnson with Johnson players- rather watch and pay for high school football.

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What a Tool! Someone remind moobs that a game is 4 quarters and not 3. This guy has got to go before tech can move forward. He has so many excuses.

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“Things are bleak right now, but better days are ahead.”
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Now you sound like UGA fans. It’s just a fact, Like our current administration as the years go by the worse off we are. It’s time to get someone new. Period!

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Burdell-

You and GT4 Life need to quit using the term “Real Fans” Thats a load of BS……. I am as real of a GT fan as there is and I am not going to put up with the CRAP that is the GT football and basketball programs. I support this team as much as any GT fan alive but enough is enough…… Because you sit on your hands and cheer mediocrity that doesn’t make you a “Real Fan”

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You guys hated Gailey when he was here. Johnson took his players and did what he couldn’t do with them! CPJ will turn it around. Al Groh killed this season
with his defense that will time to rebuild.
Get behind Coach Kelly and Coach Johnson!
If we had Nick Saban, he’d leave after one year.
Support you team!
Quit booing. Dumb jerks!!!

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So CPJ wants to play the “if” game. If Stafford doesn’t throw that pick, if the guy didn’t miss the tackle on Roddy Jones, if FSU doesn’t fumble at the goal line, if Clemson doesn’t turn the ball over, if Wake doesn’t screw up overtime, etc….CPJ would not have a single “signature” win. That is why they play the games, and the goal is to win them. Over time, the more talented and better coached teams tend to win most of the close games.

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If CPJ doesn’t get off his ego trip and develop a passing game, GT is in for a miserable two years until CPJ is fired. If we end up 3-9, he should be fired this year, but GT can’t afford it. Come on CPJ, don’t be an arrogant imbecile, switch to the Oregon offense.

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Just popped in to see what was being thrown around and it’s exactly as I would have thought. All the experts continuing to slam CPJ. Well CPJ’s a big boy and I think he can handle criticism from all the experts here as he continues to do what he’s done for over 30 years, WIN. No doubt I will be slammed as well as a CPJ lackey, but that too, is okay. I trust his abilities over 99.9% of the folks that post on a internet forum. Y’all have a great day and GO Jackets!!!!!!!

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billyBobjacket and GT Joe,

Well said…

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Go Jackets!
We have a new four game season!
We can go undefeated in this four game season.
Beat UGA and win a bowl game!
YOU GOTTA BEE-LIEVE!!!!!

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I know what I’m doing, @#$%!mit!!!! If anybody says I don’t, I want you to punch them in the $#%@!face!

Now……leave me alone, because I have bigger fish to fry.

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It’s time to get someone new. Period!

So the most logical decision is to fire CPJ. Pay him 10 million not to coach. Bring in someone new who will need at least 3-4 years to turn the team around even if he is a good coach? All because of a bad year? GT fans really need to remember who we are. We aren’t Alabama. We are going to have bad seasons every once in a while. You would think the fact that CPJ has beaten UGA, won an ACC championship, and has a better winning percentage then O’Leary and Ross would earn him a little time to turn things around. I guess not.

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GT Lover,

Thanks for the chuckle.

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Ol Jacket fan-

You’re right he can “Win” he’s done it 3 times this year…………..Keep sitting on your hand supporting garbage thats been this programs problem for years………

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I don’t see a REAL TECH FAN using reggie’s balls as a handle. Why would you slam one of your own players?
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be a good fan and back these players. they are still working hard and deserve good fans to support their efforts.

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Ah yes, the ad hominem attacks begins. I so enjoy the mindset that if someone disagrees with you then you must attack that person, such a mature way to handle things LOL!

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Pj is in way over his head,Is he seriously trying to compare coaching Georgia Southern and Navy are remotely close to being the head coach in the ACC. Get ready PJ your days at GT are numbered.He’s not winning at Tech, even in the worst division in all of college football. Tech not just getting beat by unranked Sunbelt teams , its getting blown out at home by unranked teams.

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Now THAT is the Paul Johnson that I like. He shoots from the hip and he doesn’t take any crap from somebody who probably never played a down of football in their life. This is the kind of thing I have been wanting to hear him say all season. And if you “hater’s” don’t like it then, scroo you. GO JACKETS !!!!

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Bob:

Let’s see, last 3 seasons, 6-7, 8-5 and now 3-5. That win% is getting irrelevant. Even Gailey didn’t have a losing record, CPJ is working on his 2nd. in THREE years. YOu think Chizik at Auburn will survive this year with HIS win% and national title? Doubtful.

Last year and this year were the “years to turn things around”. and no, .500 football is not a “turnaround”.

If CPJ was smart (big “if”, I know), he would have started Vad this season; at least then we could have called this a rebuilding season and his record wouldn’t be so scrutinized. And yes, we would have still been 3-5 with Vad.

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None of us claim to be experts–look at the facts. 5 wins in the last 15 games. Attendance is terrible with both the students, alumni and everyone else. Fired 2 defensive coaches in his tenure. The goal is not to avoid getting fired, but to win.

I am alumnus, 3rd year generation alumni, grandson of an All-American/Hall of Fame player at Tech and really disappointed that the games are boring and going nowwhere. They were only exciting when we had Dwyer, Thomas, Nesbitt, Morgan, Michael Johnson, Burnett. All of those players were converted to CPJ’s system. If he can get those types of players and win great. But he hasn’t proven that yet. You can tolerate arrogance from a Coach when you are winning but not win you are losing. It doesn’t mean we love Tech any less if we expect our team to play hard and win.

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@ JoeFan….Spurrier could get it done at Tech, because he got it done at Duke when he was there. Saban would field a good team, but I doubt his recruiting would be any better than what we have now. And to Feer the Veer, how do you know he’s not recruiting in South Ga? Did you ever think that he is, but he’s not getting (or maybe not able to get) the talent that is down there?

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Everyone of us would get defensive if we did out best,but realized it was not all our fault. He has had several years to get this Tech thing going. WE all get fired sooner or later. Move on Von Johnson. Tech will not win no matter who they hire. Too hard academically

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gt athletics screwed yet again by a lousy coach who does well early and gets a ridic contract extension. first braine now drad. no wonder he wants out. he sees the sinking ship.

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GTBob: So, beating UGA once in the rain after being owned in the first half, and winning an ACCC during the previous decade with somebody else’s recruits, which was also during the weakest period of ACC football in recent memory (which, by the way, CPJ and DRad managed to get taken away from us) is all we expect from a coach these days. And you guys say we complainers have “given up”?! Settling for something less than mediocrity seems more like giving up to me. An Ol’Jacket: If our choice was CPJ or a keyboard coach, I would agree, but for what we are paying CPJ I would hope we could hire a REAL coach. I know we are stuck with him as we can’t afford to pay him off, but we don’t have to like it.

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Johnson should have left with DRad and Groh!!!!

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The Ross nc WILL NEVER happen again

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@ Reggie’s son you don’t know me at all. I assume you attack anyone who has a differing opinion from you by the tone of your posts. To me that shows an unbelieveable level of immaturity and I won’t be bothered to respond your “comments”. Don’t go away mad, just go away child

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Really?

You don’t really care anymore…. I agree with you 100% and that is the problem. All of these people on here talking about being “Real” fans and “Supporters” of the program and don’t want to say anything negative are fooling themselves. Our program is in the toilet and you are ok with that. That’s pitiful Keep supporting mediocrity and thats what you will be supporting until the day you die.

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how come when i click submit twice all i get is a screen that says “Duplicate comment-you already said that”?

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“Keyboard Coaches”
I love it!
Al you wanna be’s, are just keyboard coaches!!!
You have no life except to defame someone on this stupid blog!
Idiots!
HA! HA!

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GT Lover-

Who on this blog is “Coaching”? I haven’t read one X’s and O’s comment. The program is in the toilet and its because our coach doesn’t know how to coach a defense. Look at the stats, they don’t lie.

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All the people that know what needs to be done and how to fix Tech are the same guys that think they are the best lover their wife ever had.

Don’t have a problem with Johnson. If this continues next year then something will have to be done, but not just yet.

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gtjoe and reggieballer represent the worst of what georgia tech fans (if that’s even true?) can be.

your parents should be ashamed by your collective lack of class. or they would be if they knew better.

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Tech deserves more. Tech has accomplished more before Johnson.

Like what? Every once in a while we win an ACC championship and every once in a while we beat UGA. That hasn’t changed with CPJ. In the last 52 years GT has won 8 games or more 12 times. 25% of those were with CPJ. He hasn’t been the horrible coach everyone is making him out to be. He is certainly in a rough time right now but I really don’t see why he shouldn’t get a chance to rebound from it. Especially when many changes are coming next year.

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I would agree, but for what we are paying CPJ I would hope we could hire a REAL coach.

If we fire him then we are paying him that much not to coach. Is that better? We aon’t be able to afford a top coach and whoever we bring in will probably need 3-4 years to recruit for a normal system. We are probably looking at 3-5 win seasons the first couple of years. Are you really in a hurry to get to that?

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www-

How So ??

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Let’s not get sidetracked from the issues at hand, namely Johnson’s excuse-making and stinking record as-of late: five wins in the last fifteen games and eighteen wins in the last thirty-seven games; NO wins against Georgia, Virginia Tech, or bowl opponents since November 2009; this year’s pathetic results that includes beatings handed-down by Middle Tennessee State and BYU.

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GT Bob

Good posts. It’s hard to be logical and reasonable on a blog.

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5150 UOAD-

That post doesn’t make any sense? Was it a joke? explain it to me…….

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Your recruiting is bad, contrary to what is said, and there is no excuse….Tech did not suddenly become a tough school, and ya’ll were good in the past.

When were we good at recruiting?

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Tech Troll: go back and look at my posts on this article and tell me where I’m being illogical.

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GTBob,
In the ’70s, ya’ll and us were back and forth….talent looked pretty even. When CPJ got there, he had more talent than now.
@Supersize….see my post towards bottom of 2nd page.

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As I previously have said, I have a little heart for Tech because as a kid, even though we were Dawgs, we did go to Tech to watch a local high-school back play….Brent Cunningham. My wife’s grandad is in the Tech HOF, even though her dad played at UGA! (Can’t say too much more….might blow my cover!!) lol

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Everyone talking about Saban (who is a great coach and recruiter) think about this….there is only 1 Saban. His record at Michigan State which is comparable to GT was:

1995 Michigan State 6–5–1
1996 Michigan State 6–6
1997 Michigan State 7–5
1998 Michigan State 6–6
1999 Michigan State 9–2

Looks a lot like Gailey’s GT record. Speaking of Gailey, Saban’s NFL record was 9-7 and 6-10. Gailey’s record is 10-6, 8-8, 4-12, 6-10

Take LSU and Alabama out of the picture and Saban is not much better than Gailey. If you put Johnson or Gailey at LSU or Alabama they will likely do better as well. Bigger draw for recruits, bigger pockets, bigger school, better football history….may be a little less selective on education, but that really does not matter.

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At www, I am a fan. Have been for years, but I don’t have the alure of a TECH alumni. My merit comes from South Carolina, and even I was pissed that Cremins was ,although brief, headed there. I like to think of it as two parts, my heart is with TECH, I feel the pain and the joy that comes with that. My merit is with South Carolina, I pull for them, but in no way like the alumn that I am should. Having said that, this blog is awesome for the Tech fans. In the next few games I want to watch if the O-Line engages the D-line at the point of attack. It seems to me that defenses just line up, then spread out (like shot gun pellets) when the ball is hiked to cover the option. The O-Line has no chance to engage. Any validity to my point?

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I love him. He’s honest and knows how to coach.

As for our offense getting QB’s hurt, if you really want to experience some pain, drop back to pass and take a shot from a blitzing blind side corner. There’s a picture in an early 70’s yearbook of (SMU?) QB Chuck Hixon doubled over backwards when hit by Bubba Holt (?). I had rather be running the ball than tackled while standing in the pocket.

Go Jackets!

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These recruits that come out of HS these days with 2.0 averages can’t get into Tech like they can at SEC schools i.e. UGA.
At least CPJ will stay at Tech.
We’d lose other coaches to bigger programs.
Face it, Tech is a small program!
It is what it is!

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Thats just the attitude I would expect of you Technically Correct.

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CPJ can respond with utmost confidence since he’s got a golden parachute / contract that’s got his back.

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Old dog, you are VERY close to blowing your cover. Anyone who watched Brent Cunningham run the ball saw one of the greatest to play on Grant Field, and it sounds like you saw him a lot in HS, too. Here’s a great story from the Macon Telegraph on Cunningham:

http://www.macon.com/2012/10/29/2230819/cunningham-had-some-big-games.html

Can you imagine what he could have done in our offense with his speed and moves!

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I’d bet six months of my income that if CPF gets another head coaching job after Tech it will be at a mid-major or below..

Well, yeah. Most coaches after they get fired don’t go immediately work for major schools and im pretty sure CPJ isn’t leaving unless he is fired.

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The session ended in the parking lot with a fish fry and a baggy blue wind suit for all in attendance. A good time was had by all and then the coach had to run to meet a prospect who’s down to to Tech and Mars Hill

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@GTBob

Well, yeah. Most coaches after they get fired don’t go immediately work for major schools and im pretty sure CPJ isn’t leaving unless he is fired.
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Good coaches get fired and rehired at D-1 schools quite often.Bobby Petrino will get a D-1 job,Houston Nutt got another D-1 job,Tommy Tubberville got another one and I’m sure I’m missing a few..Not only will CPJ not be able to get a D-1 head coaching job I’m betting no one would even offer him an OC job..And of course he’s not leaving unless he fired he’s stealing more money than he’s ever made or ever will make in his life.

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Hope Johnson is saving some of that good Tech money. He will go full circle and end up at AA college ball at 250K per, not the 2+ mil Tech is forking over

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JB, you are right.
Now the question is should we expect a top 20 class every year or even two when we havent had one in I dont know how long? And can it be done with PJ at HC? Would Gif come back with PJ at HC?

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Fuzzybee, I’m a Dawg, but grew in Atlanta and attended many Tech games and I’m not happy when Tech is not doing well. I watch them on TV when my Dawgs aren’t on. The talent level to ME seems really down. The ACC has some very talented teams, and whipping up on weak sisters and OOC teams is not very fun. I don’t have an answer. The recruiting has got to improve. The coaching is there. He doesn’t seem to have much to work with, but hey, Auburn is 1-7.

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CPJ has never had a QB that throws well at least at Tech until Vad Lee. He says that he adjusts his play calling to the strengths of his QB and the players around him. What we dont know is how his play calling will change with a more polished Lee at the helm next fall, if JT doesnt beat him out. Could be a really different animal. Like many have said in the past, how good would lil Joe have been in the offense? Pretty good I suspect. Lee has more physical tools than Joe, is he as good a leader? on field smart? Driven to make a play? Will be fun to see next year.

Now lets see how this year plays out. PJ will make changes and it will be better next year, maybe a lot better.

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CPJ said it like it was. No sunshine up anyone’s hind parts! I remain awed at the assumption that he’d keep the best QB on the bench when we’ve been struggling. The man IS around these guys a GREAT deal more than ANY of us…he’ll see us through this. We have NOT seen the best this man can provide and I remain optimistic about this becoming a reality. This season has been a frustrating one, but I’ll be looking for all you haters out there when things get turned around. No matter what happens, I’m a Tech fan…for better or for worse! GO TECH!!!

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I read the article and also read the word IF as if it was multiplyed 10 times.If pj was not the coach it might have been a big if outcome.

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JB, I appreciate your comments and I agree with you about recruiting and the talent level. But I have to remind myself that our class of 07 was very special at GT and lead to the success of 08-09. I do think PJ hurts his own cause by downplaying the star system as a whole because its clear it matters. He remembers beating teams with better talent, when he was at Navy.

We have seen what he can do with one top 20 class and a QB who could run over you but didnt throw very well in J Nesbit. We are about to see what he can do with a QB who does both run and throw well in Mr Lee. He has the potential to elevate all around him as Joe Hamilton did, but it even took Joe a couple of years to really be good.

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@ Rick James…beotch

Rick James
November 1st, 2012
5:47 pm
I’d bet six months of my income that if CPF gets another head coaching job after Tech it will be at a mid-major or below..
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Hey Superfreak,
You could’ve saved a bunch of typing if you’d just said I’ll bet $10

Superfreakyyyy

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I’d love to see a contest in which the winner “Won a chance to Coach GT in a Game” with the following rules/prize:
YOU are the HC … i.e. you’re word is as strong as PJ’s, what you say goes.

If your coaching gets GT a win, you win a million $.
If your coaching gets GT a loss, you owe GT $2,500

I think we’d all love to see WnE’s name get picked for this contest!

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Hey coach, you will be fired after UGA proves your coaching staff including you suck!No need in reading his stupid points anymore.

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“If I’m going to go down, I’m going to go down doing what I do and knowing what I know.”

That’s why I want Johnson to hire an offensive coordinator, one who can bring in some other elements to the offense. Brian Bohannon has been with Johnson just about forever. I’d like to see him move on and start up the Kennesaw State program. Come on Coach, think outside that box.

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olddog, please stop acting like your team is the TEAM that is the measuring stick, because they aren’t. Get off your SEC high and come back down to reality, that uga is lucky

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GT is too broke to fire johnson—they’ll have to put up with 5-6 loss seasons for a few more years till they get some money to do something

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While this season has been a huge let down, I still think Paul Johnson is a good coach and an excellent person for Tech. Can he coach? Well, yes he can. Those of you who complain that he could only win with Gailey’s recruits fail to say that he coached those recruits, used his own offense and had excellent success and put fun teams on the field. As for those recruits, it was not Gailey that was behind most of that. It was one of the assistent coaches that we later lost to a head coaching opportunity. It is way too early to call for a change. In my thinking, if we go to a similar offense that everyone else has, that only makes recruiting more of a problem. We will be going after folks with the same skills that the SEC and all other ACC teams want with no differentiation. That does not sound like a good thing to me. I believe we live through the rest of this season and see what can be done next year. If no improvement is seen, then maybe there is a bigger issue. I think that Paul Johnson will prove to be a good long term asset for Tech.

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JTK…. no he won’t, for this reason. He’ll play 4 or 5 teams he can’t beat with the talent he’s attracting. End of story. 8-4, 7-5 will not do. Reality.

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After reading all this crap, how many G.T. fans would vote to bring Gaily back? He was as most of these blogers are stating was the guru of recruiting. Any Gaily fans in the house tonight?

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I was not calling for Gailey to be fired but that is the past and we have to get this team turned around with CPJ.

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juvenal
November 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

how come when i click submit twice all i get is a screen that says “Duplicate comment-you already said that”?
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Because you posted twice. Duh.

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DWagNole……Some people can double post. I like Juvenal get that message and I can’t double post. I see the Dwag & Nole education is showing.

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Coach to go?

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GTville
November 1st, 2012
5:19 pm

Take LSU and Alabama out of the picture and Saban is not much better than Gailey.
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Brain-dead comment. You CAN’T “take LSU and Alabama out of the picture,” athough I’m sure you’d like to. They’re history–and a huge part of his career.

Your comment is as relevant as saying “Take away all the Dawgs’ losses and they’d be undefeated.”

Well, no shi*, Sherlock.

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5150 UOAD
November 1st, 2012
9:42 pm

DWagNole……Some people can double post. I like Juvenal get that message and I can’t double post. I see the Dwag & Nole education is showing.
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So “some people can double post,” but you can’t? Why in the hell would you WANT to double post? I see your absence of education is showing.

Truth be told, the “duplicate comment” messages likely mean the sorry-ass AJC filters are snagging the posts, which they often do w/o justification.

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Math time:

Assume $65 per average ticket (which is low, unfortunately). Next, use the difference between 55,000 capacity and 35,000 = 20,000 no sales. That gives $1.3 million per game unsold. Now those are crude numbers, but the incoming AD can do his projections to derive more exact numbers. He will then do several projections that might show how much offset to the contract buyout that a coaching change could produce.

Now, I have to say that I am not in favor of a head coach change at this time (I’d like to see a bona fide offensive coordinator under CPJ), but a new AD that is hired with a specific agenda might be quick to make the numbers work.

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GT Lover…Can you say incomprehensible?

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OkieDawg, can you spell dog correctly?
By the way, the medic bilateral for every man perambulates the aberration of what he might have been!

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Well said GTBob!

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Hey guys. Mighty VT has one claim to fame this season. They stumbled into a win against us. They just lost to Miami to go to 4 & 5 for the year with FSU coming to town next week. The Heisman pretender L Thomas reminded me of Tevin. Both good kids that go all out for their team. They just go about it in different ways. Thomas “called his own number” ala Tevin. He had 22 or 23 runs tonight. (tongue-in-cheek sarcasm implied)

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I don’t have the knowledge or qualifications to be critical of any coach as to play-calling,recruiting, choices of assistants,etc. I only have the perspective of a Tech fan for 64 years. (I don’t think I’m senile yet,but maybe so.) My one criticism of Coach Johnson ,which I believe to be valid , is that he appears to me to be just about the worst coach ever in terms of being almost completely void of any skills for public relations. ” In the day” we had a coach who was able to have a positive story in the paper every day about some aspect of GT football. He showed nothing but positive and optimistic points to the world. Grouchiness doesn’t help recruiting. I wish Coach Johnson was able to relate better to fans,students,faculty,alumni,the press,high school coaches,good players he’d like to recruit,etc. I love GT and hope things improve someday as to football. Things otherwise are mostly quite good.

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Oh H…give Johnson one more year. After that,if he goes 7-6 NO more talk out of him.

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I love GT, and will continue to pull for them, win or lose, with whoever coaches them, until I take my last breath. There have been coaches I liked, and coaches I didn’t like, just as there have been players that became favorites, and players that I didn’t mind seeing graduate and move on. Through good years and bad, I have and will continue to pull for the team to win. No team wins all the time, and true, some win much more than others, but If winning percentage is the determining factor for whether I continue to give my loyalty to GT, then I’m not a fan of GT, but just a fan of winning. I like to win, but I like GT win or lose. As long as PJ remains the head coach of GT, then he’s my coach. If anyone here only wants to support a team or coach that wins, then go support Alabama. And when Alabama has a few down years, you can switch to ND. Then when ND falters, you can pull for Texas. I’ll still be here pulling for my yellow jackets, ecstatic with each win, and agonizing over each loss. Because that’s what a true fan does.

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stony….VERY WELL SAID!!!!

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14GT,
I’m slightly younger than you(born in 58), but I also left the hospital in a GT sweater(gold with a simple white T on it). My first toddler picture had me sitting with one of those little plastic GT footballs in between my legs. I did not attend Tech, as I did not want to be an engineer, and was living in SC when I graduated from high school. I did get a tryout with Pepper the summer before my senior year, but failed to impress enough to be offered a scholarship. Nevertheless, my family has always bled gold and white, as have I.

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To Hell with Tek, today,tomorrow and every other day!

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CPJ uses whats called “intellectualization” to defend his ego when he explains why Tech isn’t winning. Intellectualization is a pathological ego defense mechanism. He uses this to sell the AA, to sucker them. but they see Tech losing as well as everybody else. In mathematics, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, and this is how the shotgun works. The qb faces downfield and releases passes or handoffs while facing the goal line. CPJs qb does a 180 and then runs the opposite way, using up time while dls rush in and dbs get closer to receivers. There’s no question that percentage wise 99.5% of all teams from hs to the pros use shotguns. The shotgun clinic was put on for CPJ in on Grant Field by NC State with Russell as their qb. They kindly used the shotgun the entire game except in the red zone to teach CPJ how a modern shotgun offense should work. Also, CPJ goes from white unis with old gold stripes to the shocker unis of the Chick-Fil-A Bowl, and went downhill ever since, except for this year in my opinion. I like the white helmet unis b/c Tech wore them when I went there during the ‘71-2 seasons. We didn’t have the jacket nest hexagons though. Thos are cool art. The gold helmets were getting boring, and were associated with losing to Georgia too many years.

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[...] The offensive genius gets defensive. [...]

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So let me get this straight. If you don’t kiss this arrogant jerk’s a.ss & complain about his HORRID decisions this season then you are not a real fan. You CPJ nut swingers need to wake up. Our program is sinking faster than the Titanic.

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@Wreckbone – I agree with your statements my friend, however I would suggest decaf or a typing course, spell check, something man!

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CPJ is by far from being dumb. In fact, he is very smart on the offense side of the ball. The problem comes with defense. I think if he can find a DC that know what he is doing and can get the players behind him, CPJ can go back to focusing on the offense again. Regardless of what you may think about CPJ, he is one of the only coaches in all of football that doesn’t walk around with a playbook. Good part? It’s all in his head… Bad part, this can cause the offense to do repeated plays. Kind of like dinners at home, you can get into a rut… having the same stuff week in and week out. But, know this.. not everyone can play call without a playbook. He is not a defensive football coach though. I think he thought Groh was the answer, but Groh only drove the defensive program into the ground. Kelly is now in an almost impossible position and will more than likely be targeting next. The defense needs to move to a 4-3 or even a 5-2. If it was me coaching, I would use the old 50 bears defense that was used by them in the 80’s and then used by the Giants in a little different (more evolved way) back in the 90’s. This is when the 50 style defense used quick LB’s as defensive ends. A man named Lawrence Taylor seemed to be pretty good at the positiion. Not saying we have the next Lawrence Taylor, but we do have the personel for that style of “D”.. The 3-4 is not for what talent we have. There is a reason why Pro teams run it. Maybe because they are PRO!! It takes big and fast interior defensive linemen. A NT that can stuff up the middle and roll off blocks to make tackles. and more importantly the ability to run zone blitzes and stunts. NONE and I mean NONE of this GT has or does. So, how was the 3-4 supposed to work?? CPJ’s only problem was thinking Groh could get the “D” at the level it needed to be at. If GT misses a bowl due to this, I would think that GT would find a way to buy his contract out and restart the football program from stratch.

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@GTBob, Stony – Good posts guys.

@GTLover 1 4 GT and Old Fashioned – I think had some beers with you guys at PJ Haley’s! I feel the same, just can’t stand being a bad team…win some, lose some but damn, let’s play like we have a clue!

@Billybob – is that Taylor? what’s up man

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With a new AD coming in, Johnson has say 2 years to turn it around. A new AD would not pull the plug by just others opinions I would guess. If he did, you’ve hired the wrong AD.

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Current GT student perspective on GT Athletics: http://www.rcsoatl.com/2012/11/hopeful-for-change-in-gt-athletics.html

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CPJ is delusional

November 1st, 2012
.. Instead we’re stuck w/ D3 talent @ QB cause CPJ is too stubborn to move away from the triple option
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If Johnson were to move away from running the triple option, you’d be better off with a new football coach. The triple option is Johnson’s offense. To argue that he should run a different offense is laughable.

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To all the CPJ fans, in Clemson, first quarter, score is 0 – 0, fourth and four (at least) still in your own territory and you go for it? Why do we need to be a coach to understand that is poor decision making?

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If every game had ended when we were ahead, we would not lose a game.

Nice pj. Never been fired doesn’t mean won’t be fired.

pj can’t move to anything but the triple o, it is all he knows.

Team is highly motivated and can relate to pj, not.

He did a good interview though, no abuse of the challenged or threats to punch someone or hang himself. For him, great interview!

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Once and for all, GT’s offense scores 29.7 pts/game vs. FBS teams, ranked #42. Not good enough. And this is against the #68 schedule in the country.

Also, yes, CPJ sees both QBs in practice every day. So I trust his opinion on who the best PRACTICE QB is. But guess what, we ALL see both QBs on GAME day. And on GAME day, Vad is better.

When will CPJ realize that GAME day is more important than PRACTICE days? Is he too stubborn? I mean goodness gracious, we have pros that sit out 3-4 days of practice every week to “rest” so they’ll be ready for Sunday. IF CPJ was an NFL coach, he wouldn’t find 22 players to play!

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GT Joe,

No surprises if Maryland wins tomorrow. Johnson could very well be canned soon thereafter.

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Look guys. It’s like rightwing republicans in the 21st century. Their ideas just don’t fly. PJ’s system isn’t going to fly is this era either. Did it not register on anybody when Iowa just literally stoned his team in the Orange Bowl with Gailey’s future NFL players that this thing won’t win against quality opposition. He has HIS players now. Bad players with little talent. COME ON MAN! It’s getting too obvious.

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i agree 100% with “tvfan” above:

“I think there needs to be a huge evaluation of the current assistant coaches.
The offensive line is not getting the job done and has not played well since 2009. Are they being trained well? The skill level does not appear to be what it should be. Look for the two kids from Tri-Cities as true freshmen offensive linemen to beat out the current guys next year.
The defensive line is abysmal. I know there has been some movement with who now coaches that unit, but it should not have ever gotten that bad.
Linebackers: can’t break through on a blitz. Appear to be weak and fail to make a stop when we need it. Maybe this is the time to mention appalling tackling skills.
Special Teams: Wow.
I’m sure Tech has some pretty good kids playing for them, but they need to start winning some recruiting battles soon.”

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It feels like sheeeeit to know we have no chance against UGA. They might score 70 points on us. If Murray’s still standing by then he might throw for 700 yards against this secondary. And I hate to think what havoc that Jones kid will wreak with small Paul’s lineman just diving at his feet. It has gotten to this point because Paul Johnson doesn’t know the difference in the ACC and Navy. You gotta have the players and he’s not getting any..

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www: I never said Maryland would win. I’d bet on Tech to win, but probably not to cover (don’t even know what the line is).

Now, I fully expect, if Tevin starts, that he has a great game, because he always does well against lousy teams. And all the TW fans will be on here with the “I told you so” garbage, forgetting that the game was a golden opportunity to start Vad for experience sake (just like the BC and Presby games).

BUT IF HE LOSES, CPJ must be fired Sunday. Look, we’ve lost to MTSU at home, losing to MD away is not a stretch by any means.

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Did it not register on anybody when Iowa just literally stoned his team in the Orange Bowl with Gailey’s future NFL players that this thing won’t win against quality opposition.

How do you think we would have done in that game with an NFL system? Iowa had a very good defense with several future NFL players and a month to prepare. They were going to be tough to move the ball against regardless of what offense we ran.

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As I said in July, CPJ IS ON THE HOT SEAT.

He’s still not really on the hot seat. The only way he gets fired this year is if we finish 0-4 and get beat by 40 points every game. Even then its not likely.

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This game Saturday vs Maryland is a 1AA matchup and CPJ should win because he is a mastermind at that level. He needs to be coaching at GA Southern, Montana, UT Chattanooga etc….. and winning National Championships. That’s where he fits and there is nothing wrong with that. The problem is GT is actually a D1 school and you actually have to have D1 athletes and you actually have to play defense. The trend is there, just look at the quality or lack there of in the wins he has…… It is a TREND not just a bad season and all of you that love CPJ just don’t want to see that.

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It is a TREND not just a bad season and all of you that love CPJ just don’t want to see that.

Should you fire a coach in the early stages of a possible trend when he had success before that?

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Are the people calling for CPJ’s head the same people who were calling for Gailey’s head? Do you remember what CPJ did his first two years? Yeah, something Gailey NEVER did. Is CPJ having a bad year? Yes. Is recruiting mainly the problem, probably. Did Gailey recruit better? Yes…but again even with his better recruiting, we still were bad. The bottom line is, quit measuring Tech against football factories. We aren’t one and never will be. You cannot expect GT to consistently do well against semi-pro (football factories), regardless of the coach. We cannot out recruit them, period. (You disagree?…when was the last 2 year stretch where we had a higher ranked class than UGA?…….keep thinking….keep thinking…ok yeah..it’s never happened…at least not in the last 20-30-40 years) GT is a fine institute and has a great education. It is smaller than UGA…it is poorer than UGA…it has less students…less fans…less admit exceptions…less property…less of everything…it doesn’t mean UGA is bad or GT is bad…they are just completely different. David and Goliath. Why do we keep sending our students out to play Goliath? We should abandon games against football factories imo, or just quit football altogether. It’s going to get someone hurt if we keep sending our David’s out against Goliath every year. What’s the point anymore? UGA won the war and the battle and the series…who cares? We should only play teams we are comparable with….to not do so is just inviting all this heart ache and bickering and finger pointing. GT was losing to UGA consistently long before CPJ came…so be careful not to throw out the baby with the bath water.

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Oh…and the day we get a coach and AD who can consistently beat UGA (or other football factories)…………is the day that some richer school will just hire them away from us. Why do we keep going in these same circles, forgetting what history has shown us all too well?

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@DawgFaithful: It’s funny. The man you were describing sounded a lot like Mark Richt.

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Dawn, I will admit that if we got a different coach, we would probaby be able to recruit better. That would also put us back into a circular pattern of ‘we need better recruits fire cpj’…….then 3-4 years later it will be ‘this guy recruits ok, but he can’t win…fire him…we need a guy with a gimick to overcome our inferior talent’……..and then we hire back CPJ? Nah…how about if we just quit trying to play football factories. If we take out games again UGA, LSU, etc….then I think our record probably looks good. Granted, there have been at least two really ugly losses this year……….but then again we won more than ever the first two years…so…pick your poison…history shows we can have a conventional offense in order to recruit better but we’ll lose to other conventional offenses who recruit top notch…………or…we can have a gimmick offense (like we have) and suffer a bit from recruiting in exchange. There is no magic wand that will make GT a powerhouse in football. I love GT, but I have eyes, and a brain, and observe the pattern history has shown us all too well. How about if we just quit football altogether?…then we have no argument to have about the coach and why they don’t win. I’ll solve the puzzle……………..we don’t win because we aren’t Goliath in the state…and we never could be…the Regents…the lay of the land…reality sees to that. It’s not a bad thing to be GT…it might be a bad thing to compare us to UGA though. David vs Goliath is heart ache waiting to happen.

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DawgFaithful – Honestly, I would prefer to not have our expectation level ‘to beat MTS’……I would just assume they close the football program and let the kids study. It’s an excersize in futitlity year in and year out, save for a hope-inspring-blip……..soon to be followed by heart broken Tech fans. Just quit the football stuff…and focus on basketball, baseball, and studying. Sounds good to me.

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A coach that can get a few top kids and send them to the NFL.Johnson hasn’t shown he can do that. He’s stubborn

Why would we care about the number of NFL players CPJ is producing? Maybe I am weird but I am more concerned with how they do in college then the NFL.

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It’s math. You tech guys know about math right?

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Johnson’s been in a downward trend since clinching the ACC Coastal Division against Duke in November 2009. The turning point was that 30-24 loss to a putrid 6-5 Georgia team that had just lost to Kentucky. Counting that UGA game, Tech is 18-19 over the past thirty-seven games. That’s lousy compared to the 19-5 start Johnson initially had.

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* sorry, i meant dwagfathful. typical dwag fan.

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@ different year same result

I guess Spurrier is bad coach since he hasn’t recruited a decent QB since he’s been at South Carolina.

@ MC

All of Iowa’s front seven made it to the NFL. I rembember how cold it was at the game, but I also remember we had the ball with a chance to take lead late in the 4th quarter.

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Tech4life:
“It’s funny. The man you were describing sounded a lot like Mark Richt.”

C’mon really? Mark Richt has won 10+ games in 12 years. He is 2-1 in BCS games. He has played for 4 SEC titles and won 2. We will play for another one this year with an outside shot to play for the BCS title. In his career he has recruited and coached QB after QB including a hesiman winner, the former NCAA all time wins leader and a #1 overall Draft pick. Saban is the best coach in america but Richt has a higher winning percentage. Richt has the 3rd or 4th highest winning percentage in the NCAA. He is the longest tenured coach in the SEC. He continually gets top NFL caliber talent to come to GA. While we havnt won a NC, I’d say he’s been pretty successful.

Paul Johnson on the other hand has never won a bowl game and may not even play in one this year. He has 1 conference title with someone else’s players that was later stripped by the NCAA. He won a D2 NC but who outside of D2 gives a rip about that? He’s won 17 games in the last 3 years.

Based on that, If you were a talented HS football player that was used to winning, which program would you want to be a part of?

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Hey www,

Did you read my response to Bob? How was my math wrong? 20 wins in years 1 and 2 with Gaileys players. 17 wins since with PJ’s. NO BOWL WINS!? may not qualify for a bowl this year. Yeah the program is really catching so steam. You guys are on your way.

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GT Bob-

Here is your trend. Since 2009 when CPJ beat Duke he is 18 and 19. Thats a below .500 trend for the last three years…….Again let me run down the wins:

Duke (Twice)
MTSU (Twice)
S.C. State
W. Carolina
PC
BC
Kansas

Among the loses in that time period

UGA 3 times
VA Tech 3 times
Miami 3 times
Clemson 2 times
Kansas
MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE
and finally 0 and 3 in bowl appearances

GT Bob- Are you BLIND. Keep cheering mediocrity, actually below mediocrity…..

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GTBob
12:51pm

Why would we care about the number of NFL players CPJ is producing? Maybe I am weird but I am more concerned with how they do in college then the NFL.
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Bobby — their doing terrible in College.
Is Johnson capable of coaching players northward alas O’Leary?
Is he capable of taking a talented player & improving his abilities?
He’s lost complete control of his locker-room!!

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GT Bob- Are you BLIND. Keep cheering mediocrity, actually below mediocrity…..

Ok, then. What is the solution? Fire Johnson. Hire a mediocre coach because we don’t have the money to get anyone better. Watch as Zach Laskey lines up at tailback behind an offensive line that has been diving at peoples knees for the last 4 years. Watch Vad try to throw to 2-3 star receivers who currently have no idea how to run routes in a regular offense. Watch our team go 4-8 the first couple of years until things get straightened out. Is that the pie in the sky scenario you are praying for? Personally id rather give CPJ a chance to turn things around.

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GT Bob- Fans like you almost make me embarrassed to be a GT fan. IT’s OK to criticize your program when they are putting out garbage!!!!!!!!!!! It’s called SPORTS, its about winning and losing and we are all about losing in the major sports right now and I am fed up with it….

I don’t expect GT to compete for National Championships every year, its not that kind of school but we can be respectable and challenge UGA every once in a while and not get the $hi+ kicked out of by MTSU…..

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GT Bob- Fans like you almost make me embarrassed to be a GT fan. IT’s OK to criticize your program when they are putting out garbage!!

You aren’t criticizing. You are crying like a child and demanding everyone be fired because we have hit a rough time. CPJ is not getting fired, nor should he be. If that kills you inside then root for another team. There will come a time when a real decision needs to be made on CPJ’s future. Now is not that time.

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I remember the georgie game in Atl when Johnson/Tech got the ball back in the 4th qtr and Johnson
called three long passes and then a short one…all incomplete. Funny, I was disappointed he called those three long passes but since have been disappointed he now does not seemingly throw enough passes…guess that game still sticks with him and he considers it a lesson learned. On average it probably works out…too many added to not enough=average.
Like the scoring…been averaging 37 but add to that nothing…Tech still averaging enough (to some LOL)

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“UGA won more games, and SEC championships in Richt’s first 5 years then they have in the past 5 years. That is a downward trend, right? That is the same logic you applied to CPJ. Obviously it isn’t true, but with your pointless selective math it is a fact.”

No Bob,

Again, we’re trending up. We were trending down yes I agree. Now it’s an upward trend. Tech has won 17 games in 3 years. 20 in the first 2. How do you define that? If it’s not a downward trend then what is it? It’s certainly not on the way up. Is it staying the same then? I’m confused.

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GT Bob-

Do you read the garbage that you type???????

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GT Bob-

You are the same type fan that will come on here Sunday morning praising CPJ for beating Maryland….. I could coach the team and beat Maryland. Thats not what we need.

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GT Joe-

I agree with Dawg fans all the time when it comes to their view of our program because most of the time they are correct………. Its getting embarrasing and most GT fans are OK with that…….

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@ GT Bob

I agree with you that CPJ gives us the best chance to win. To start over with a new coach means losing for several years. We know CPJ can win, so I think we should give him the cance to turn it around.

@ Reggie

I have no problem with critizing fans, but I don’t agree for firing the coach, especially one who has won, over one losing season.

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Not much you can say to Dawg fans since their team owns Tech but it is funny to witness their meltdowns over Richt, Bobo, and Grantham. I have a feeling we’ll get to see at least one more before the regular season ends.

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Tech Troll 13-

I will re-post for you since you obviously don’t do your homework either:

Here is your trend and your “Winning coach”. Since 2009 when CPJ beat Duke he is 18 and 19. Thats a below .500 trend for the last three years…….Again let me run down some of the wins:

Duke (Twice)
MTSU (Twice)
S.C. State
W. Carolina
PC
BC
Kansas

Among the loses in that time period

UGA 3 times
VA Tech 3 times
Miami 3 times
Clemson 2 times
Kansas
MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE
and finally 0 and 3 in bowl appearances

If thats what you call a winning coach then you must work for the athletic department at GT……

TREND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Tech Troll- 13

I forgot the win over Division 1AA Wake Forest where we barely won the game.

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DawgFaithful,

It wouldn’t be surprising at all for Georgia to blow it against Ole Miss, Georgia Southern, or Georgia Tech. Auburn has almost no chance against the Dawgs.

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GTBob,

Johnson’s been at Tech for five years and the program is regressing. He’s had time to “build something” and it’s not working. We all heard two years ago that 2010 was a rebuilding year and that 2012 would be the year to really evaluate Johnson since he would have his recruits and system installed. Well, it’s 2012 and look where Tech’s at!

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GT Joe
November 2nd, 2012
10:15 am
Once and for all, GT’s offense scores 29.7 pts/game vs. FBS teams, ranked #42. Not good enough.
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Joe, now I’m telling you, once and for all, please stop with the pts scored not being enough for GT to be good. I proved to you 3-4 weeks ago that it isn’t the O. 29.7 pts is more than enough to be good, very good even.
Since you can’t seem to grasp this concept go to ESPN.com and look at the top 25 teams, and what their D’s give up. THEN look at each team and give them 29.7pts vs. their FBS opponents and see if they are 2-5 like GT is.
It’s called DEFENSE. I challenge all 124 FBS to see what their record would be if each had surrendered 40+ pts in 4 of their previous 5 games.

Once and for all, GT Joe, stop with your “pts scored” argument.

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Johnson’s been at Tech for five years and the program is regressing.

He has had two bad seasons at Tech in 5 years. His first 4 years were the best first 4 years of any coach in Tech history overall. Sorry, but im not convinced that he can’t turn things around. If he didn’t have a wacky offense we wouldn’t even be talking about this right now. I wish people would just say they are annoyed by the triple option and therefore he should be fired. It would be more honest.

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What?? all of a sudden we are going to go 10 and 1 next season???

Do you think if we fire him that his replacement is going to go 10-1?

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GT Bob-

You couldn’t be more wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No intelligent GT fan thinks the offense IS THE PROBLEM. The problem is that in big boy football you have to also play defense…… Again you are just blind to his record since 2009.

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its time to tell p. j. bye bye, see you later, he has indeed show us what he can do (nothing right) if he thinks tevin is our best chance to win( than as a fan and a ticket holder)i am not buying anymore tickets.P.J.tevin is no where the near the best q.back you have got on the roster.he might be the oldest.NOW what we do have hear and you have proven it time after time is you are just as worse if not worser than CHAN GAILEY and tevin washington as REGGIE BALL combanation. your team i ment our team is as good as our coaches are and right now yall are not good at all.YOu need to pack your bag and go home.there are millons more that can do a better job than you can.You are a good man am sure.No doubt about it. I sure wish you could make me eat my words and put the best players and not yours on field that could and would win out the rest of our games this year. .P.S. your players are really out of shape bad.I have never seen a team play a so so slow motion game.There are no speed, none what so ever.Hands on hips all the time,nor tackle either sick sick sick sick, coach theres no excuses.you have fell this every year with this team for not having them in shape 4 the season starts. proof is in the pudding just watch these last games .SLOW ,HIPS ON THIGHS.HANDS IN THE AIR,YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE HIM NOT ME (TOUCH DOWN) FOR THE OTHER TEAM.how about handing that ball off in the middle just one more time PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE..Don’t disappoint me nowis that really reggie ball playing q.b.

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Counting that UGA game, Tech is 18-19 over the past thirty-seven games. That’s lousy compared to the 19-5 start Johnson initially had.

How is this not a downward trend Bob? Nobody said anything about the offense. I think the offense would work with more talent. It hink any system would work in college with enough talent. Yes the offense he runs is not very attractive to blue chip recruits but The real problem is on defense anyway. No real talent on that side o f the ball.

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Downward trend since 2009 Bob. Downward trend since 2009 Bob. Downward trend since 2009 Bob. Downward trend since 2009 Bob. Downward trend since 2009 Bob.

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How is this not a downward trend Bob?

He went 6-7 in 2010. He went 8-5 in 2011. How is that a downward trend?

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No real talent on that side o f the ball.

I don’t believe that either. Rod Sweeting, Isaiah Johnson, Jabari Hunt Days, TJ Barnes, and several others were heavily recruited by big programs. Our defense isn’t a bunch of 1 star nobodies.

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Good thing you’re not seeking credibility on these blogs, because that kind of ignorance certainly undermines it.

Good thing you have grammar responses to fall back on since you don’t apparently have anything to add to the conversation.

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“He went 6-7 in 2010. He went 8-5 in 2011. How is that a downward trend”?

It’s a downward trend because he won 11 wins and 9wins the 2 years before that and he is working on a 5-6 win season now with blowout losses to BYU and MTSU.you really are dillusional.How is it not a downward trend since 2009?

I agree 8 wins is a decent season for tech but that should be the minimum requirement. Should be 8-10 wins every year with the conference you play in and the talent that surrounds the school in a 300 mile radius. Oh but recruiting doesnt matter to PJ though.

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“I’ve managed to survive for 34 years doing what I’m doing without getting fired and we’ve won a lot of games. If I’m going to go down, I’m going to go down doing what I do and knowing what I know. So that’s it in a nutshell.” A coach who refuses to change will fail.

He’s a stubborn Ahole

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He went 6-7 in 2010. He went 8-5 in 2011. How is that a downward trend?

A trend is an entire body of work not just two random seasons that you pick out….. Open your eyes.
18 and 19 since beating Duke with Chan Gailey’s players in 2009.

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“I got you – we need to win the games. I just don’t see the gloom and doom that everybody wants to buy into.”

OK Coach … would you see the doom and gloom if your job and 2.6 Mil per year was threatened??

“If I’m going to go down, I’m going to go down doing what I do and knowing what I know. So that’s it in a nutshell.”

And there you have it … THAT’s the problem with this guy … he’s so stubborn he’d rather be fired than make proactive changes for the good of the players, the school, the alumni AND the GT football tradition. At this point, I say put that first “you’re fired” on his resume and send him packing.

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A trend is an entire body of work not just two random seasons that you pick out….. Open your eyes.

I would agree, which is why im not ignoring his first two seasons like you seem to want to.

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By the way he was playing with Gailey’s recruits in his glorious first seasons. What is he doing with his recruits?? Going downhill….. That is even more disturbing than the record…

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GT has won 8 games or more 12 times in the last 52 years. That is 23% of the time. What in our history leads you to believe that it should be a minimum requirement? If it is then no coach has any chance of ever surviving at GT.

Well for starters, how about that national title in 1990? Clemson has only won 1 title but they don’t settle for mediocrity. They continue to recruit the good players around there territory and don’t give me the academics crap. Calvin Johnson is not an honor student. Neither is jonathan dwyer and many others. There is no reason Techj can’t get some of these kids and be better than they are now.

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Something’s clearly not going right.

You are right. Its not going well right now, but it’s not nearly time to fire everyone either. Knee jerk reactions because of frustration aren’t a good way to run a football team.

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“While I appreciate your obviously unbiased opinion about GT I tend to disagree. I don’t think the future is as bleak as you think it is.”

Oh really? What do you see on the horizon? a few 8 win seasons scattered into a bunch of 5-6 win seasons followed by ZERO bowl wins. That’s what I see and it’s not too bright.

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Sorry Guys, I’m out…… I hate it that I agree more with Dawg fans than the GT fans on this blog but facts are facts……Bob quit being a homer…..

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BOB-

You are a UGA fan and you hate GT with all of your inner soul. Sorry, but I don’t really care about your opinion on the future of our program.

I am a GT fan and you hate his opinion because you know its right. The fact that you discount him shows your ignorance. Right is Right even if it wears red and black.

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The fact that you discount him shows your ignorance.

Yep, sorry. I have had a successful life by ignoring what UGA fans think. I plan to keep that upward trend going.

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You are right. Its not going well right now, but it’s not nearly time to fire everyone either. Knee jerk reactions because of frustration aren’t a good way to run a football team.
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Bobby — You’re beyond saving at this point.
Interestingly, the top 4 Teams in college football have 1 thing in common.
Bama, Oregon, K-State & ND all fired under-achieving coaches & replaced them with real coaches and look at the results.

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“You are a UGA fan and you hate GT with all of your inner soul. Sorry, but I don’t really care about your opinion on the future of our program.”

It’s true what you say about me hating Tech but it’s beacuse of the fans like you. You know the super delusional that don’t know their ass form a hole in the ground.

I want to know what YOU think the direction of the program is under Johnson. I follow recruiting pretty closely and I am somewhat familiar with the top 25o recruits inamerica. I don’t recognize any of the names of the kids in your last 2-3 recruiting classes.

So tell me who you’re high on and who you’re expecting to be a difference maker in coming years.

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Bob — by your rationale,
Bama should have kept Shula.
ND should have kept Weiss.
Oregon should have kept Bellotti.
K-State should have kept Prince.

You’re the only person in the Free World that feels that way.

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Bama, Oregon, K-State & ND all fired under-achieving coaches & replaced them with real coaches and look at the results.

Lets look at K-State. Bill Snyders first 4 years:
1-10
5-6
7-4
5-6

Man, they should have fired that guy. He was way worse then CPJ.

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Bob-

By the way My dad, uncle and brother in law all played football at GT. My grandad played hoops and baseball and I have been a fan since i was born 43 years ago and wore gold diapers. Not all GT fans are ignorant yes men…..

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Sorry, but your name alone is a dead giveaway. The incredible hatred you have towards GT made it obvious.

You are truly clueless Bob……..I love GT, Where is my hatred???? show me one example of hatred…..Please!!!!!!!!!

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Lets look at K-State. Bill Snyders first 4 years:
1-10
5-6
7-4
5-6

Man, they should have fired that guy. He was way worse then CPJ.
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That’s out of bounds & you know it.
His first stint at K-State doesn’t count.
Those figures are mis-leading.
I said after he replaced Prince!!

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I don’t think Kansas State and Georgia Tech are legitimate comparisons. When Bill Snyder took over Kansas State the first time, they were the worst team in Division I-A. They hadn’t won a game in three years. Almost anything he could have done the first four years would have been an improvement. Johnson took over a team in substantially better shape when he came to Tech.

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I said after he replaced Prince!!

Oh sorry, I thought we were allowed to look at all of the years a coach coached. Not just his few successful ones. Please carry on.

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Almost anything he could have done the first four years would have been an improvement.

Yes and he eventually drove them into the ground also. 4-7, 5-6 his last two years in his first tenure. Worse then any years CPJ has had.

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Bob: Like i said, plot a regression line on CPJ’s wins per season. Hell, throw in 6 for this year. If that line doesn’t have a negative slope, I’ll slap my momma.

As for snyder at kstate, plot HIS wins (put in, say, 9 for this year). If that line doesn’t have a POSITIVE slope, I’ll slap my momma again.

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GTBob
November 2nd, 2012
2:22 pm

Good thing you have grammar responses to fall back on since you don’t apparently have anything to add to the conversation.
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It’s not the gammar itself as much as it is your incredible ignorance about it–especially given the arrogant tone of your posts. Obviously, you’re happy with that ignorance. Enjoy.

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Bob-

Whats annoying is fans like you. It’s whats wrong with our whole program.

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Bob-

The only thing I am left to cheer for this year is Alabama to beat UGA in the SEC CG. I guess you will be fine with rooting for a big win over Maryland who is playing their 5th string QB (A converted LB) and you are fine with that. Thats whats wrong with fans like you…Mediocrity is celebrated…..

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Vad Lee, Justin Thomas, Francis Kallon, Shamire Devine, Jeremi Hall, Travis Custis, Pat Gamble. Those are just a few.

Shamire Devine could get drafted. The rest of those kids are garbage. I’ve never even heard of most of them. Bright future. Have fun with that.

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Whats annoying is fans like you. It’s whats wrong with our whole program.

Yeah, im supporting the coach and the players, I go to every home game even when we are losing, I still have hope that we can improve. Im such a terrible fan.

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Now, what was the question?

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The rest of those kids are garbage.

Even the ones heavily recruited by UGA, Alabama, and other major SEC schools? Why are SEC teams going after such garbage recruits?

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So you wrote it wrong on purpose 10,000 times? Yeah, right.

You said yourself that you have tried to correct me before and I ignored you. That should give you your answer.

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Bob — Johnson ran off D-Rad!!
To Auburn, with a lake, no less.
Can it get any worse?

Are you gonna say D-Rad wouldn’t have exited stage left if the Football Team was playing better?
He wants no association with Johnson, whatsoever.

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I will be supporting the team and the kids tomorrow as much as any GT fan

The thing is, I don’t think you will. You have already given up on this team and its coach. If a loss tomorrow would guarantee that CPJ would be fired would you root for the team to win or lose?

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Bob — how confident are you in beating Maryland?
Bearing in mind, the Terps are down to their 8th choice at QB, who happens to be a Jack-Linebacker by trade!!

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If Maryland’s QB tosses for more yards tomorrow than the combined effort of Tech’s, Johnson should be clipped on the spot, and you know this.

Their starting a LB at QB tomorrow!!!!

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GTBob,

“D-Rad” got out while he still could…faltering football program under a coach he hired, unproven basketball coach coming off of a not-so-good season, the vacated ACC Championship, etc. Really, it was a no-brainer on his part.

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I have to get in this D Rad thing also.

Anyone who paid attention would know that sev,real schools have been after D Rad for the last 3 years. Clemson is a good southern football school with money. MONEY ! Get it MONEY for the athletic program in whole. Tech has been committed to building toward the future problem is they have to budget the future. You either want facilities or high priced coaches. Tech has a good coach and built state of the art facilities.

Clemson, Georgia, South Carolina Oklahoma and so on can do both, build the big time facilities and pay a high priced coach or two. We can’t.

Several factors come into play at tech that have nothing to do with sports. A board of regents who refuses to expand Techs curriculum, a board of regents which just expanded UGAs curriculum to include engineering and the among others the number of students at the schools. Tech is barely bigger then Wake Forest yet you expect them to compete financially with the big boys.

Wake up folks.

At Tech sports has to be done in stages at Clemson the AD has free reign

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I really liked CPJ and I still think he can be a good coach. But the trend is not good. And not just with wins and losses. Years 1 & 2 the D was bad, but it made plays when it needed to. The O was terrific and won games when the D was awful. The ST was pretty decent and we wouldn’t have won the ACC without it. Years 3&4 the D got worse – we are going to blame that on Groh, who I thought was a bad hire to begin with. The ST got worse, so bad that CPJ did something he’s never done and hired a ST coach. The O was still pretty decent but TW couldn’t pull out a big win in a close game to save his life. This year, all 3 phases of the game are lacking. While the O can still strike for some big plays there is no consistency and TW has gotten worse as the season has progressed. The ST is no better (the KO return, finally, was offset by the blocked punt) and maybe it is worse. We can’t make chip shot FGs. And the D is as bad as it can possibly be.

That’s a lot of things to fix. What has CPJ been doing?

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GTBob

Do you think Peterson should have fired “D-Rad” after the NCAA vacated Tech’s ACC Championship?

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Bob,

You’re delusional as always. 2 of those kids had offers from Bama, UGA, auburn, and Florida and they were both linemen. The rest didnt even have offers from UGA. We were going after blue chippers. J thomas is from Bama so of course they offered him. They offer everybody in case you havent noticed. Like 2 of the names you listed cracked the Rivals top 250 and those are your crown jewels. Thats not very good. Doesnt make for a very bright future in my opinion. But you already said you’re cool with 8 wins or less. A lifetime of mediocrity but you reside in a recruiting hotbed.

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It’s not just the lack of wins, my main problem with CPJ is that he doesn’t get his most talented players on the damn field. Days. Vad Lee. Come on.

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I have both played and coached. Have been to GT games this year and I can say I would not be moviated by Paul Johnson. He always has a look and sound of negitavitism. This leads to a defeatist attitude. You folks sound like you are trying to justify his coaching and will except an average program, well that is your choice. Don’t except being average (50%) or soon it will become 100%.
To me 5-15 is not average even an engineer knows that.

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CPJ has been described in many ways on this blog ranging from very bad to o.k. to good. The GT football program is being portrayed as in the worst shape its ever been in to medicore to o.k to what is normal for us. If I had not been a GT fan for 52 years, I would have a hard time sorting out all of these resonses and deciding who is right or wrong. Since I have been around so long and seen so much of all kinds of seasons, ups and downs in the program, I say you are all correct. No one really is right or wrong. Since the Dodd regime, it has never been consistently good or bad and it never will be again. If you want to be a GT fan it is what it is and nothing else.

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But you already said you’re cool with 8 wins or less.

I never said that at all. I said that is what is a good season at GT historically and maybe we shouldn’t be firing coaches for it.

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GT is small ball. This desire and hunger for a consistent football team has been THE TOPIC at Tech Christmas parties for well over 40-44 years.

Sign this kid and this will result, or not make that bad throw there and this will result and this new coach will do so and so. This is Tech’s mantra ……we must have consistency. THAT CONDITION WILL never happen.

Go Dogs.

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Stinger 1 you have admitted that you will live with being average. Nice approach if you can live with being a looser. You Tech fans are amazing.

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Stinger 1 you have admitted that you will live with being average. Nice approach if you can live with being a looser. You Tech fans are amazing.

Ok then, what level of success should be the minimum acceptable level and why? 8 wins? 10 wins? MNC every year?

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GT BOB Sure why not?

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Most of us understand Tech deserves better.

Ill ask you the same question. If a coach who wins a conference championship and has the best first 4 years of any coach in GT history should be fired then what is the minimum acceptable level of success at GT?

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Ill ask you the same question. If a coach who wins a conference championship and has the best first 4 years of any coach in GT history should be fired then what is the minimum acceptable level of success at GT?
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The last 2 years have been unacceptable, by any standard.

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The last 2 years have been unacceptable, by any standard.

Why was 8-5 unacceptable? It wasn’t great but it was an above average season for GT. This year is a train wreck so far but we will see how it ends. I really think you have no idea what it is like to be a fan of a school that isn’t a football factory and isn’t built for long term success.

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Hey Bob Bama, LSU, even lowly UGA starts out the season hoping The fan base demands it.. If not what are you playing for the Saturday tailgate? That is why I suggested Tech would do better in another division.

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That is why I suggested Tech would do better in another division.

If we moved to another division we wouldn’t try any harder to be good at football and we would make less money which our other programs depend on. Therefore, it is better for GT to just remain an average D1 football team. Moving to another division wouldnt accomplish anything.

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No, most GT fans now are from Asia. YOU DO CARE, that was my point.

MTSU is the type of team and league that GT OUGHT to be competing in. The irrational 45 year quest for 9-2 type of GT teams most every year, is laughable.

Bobby Dodd knew by 1957 or 1958, that it would be very difficult to be a quality team year in and out ( 7-3) and his 12 year gap between the Sugar Bowl and his final hoorah Urange Bowl proves this.

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GT Bob- AKA CPJ’s wife

You do need to stop talking…..

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Stinger: if CPJ goes 0-4 to close the season, he’s getting fired. 3-9 doesn’t cut it. And here’s why he’ll get fired:
Every AD wants to put his mark on the sport department. Just like a new CEO, he’ll come in and make changes because he isn’t “married” to anyone in the program. He’ll have no loyalty to CPJ. And he’ll want to make the program “his”.

Again, finish 0-4, and he’s done.

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Reggie’s Balls
November 2nd, 2012
6:41 pm

GT Bob-
You just need to stop talking. You are embarrassing GT fans everywhere………

Yella Britches
November 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm

GT Bob- AKA CPJ’s wife
You do need to stop talking…..

Old Gold
November 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

I 3rd that- BOB, Stay off the blog.
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Nice to see that Jacket fans understand how that dork (GTBob) does nothing to boost G Tech’s image–even if it is only a blog.

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Are Georgia Tech football players allowed to read these articles and the comments made on them? I’m going to say yes, they are.

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Oops. Wrong blog.

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Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah……who cares anymore? Is Paul Johnson gone yet? This blog will suck until PJ is just a memory.

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Let me translate. Please stop calling for my job or it’ll be the first firing and ill go crazy and have to change my offense which will make me obsolete . Since I no longer have Chan’s players it been a struggle no one said it would be this hard.
Give me a break, you cronies can’t be buying this line of bs

Chan obviously was a better coach, think CPJ gets an NFL job

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Why aren’t any of our super frosh playing. We’ve been beaten by some frosh this year.
I love Tech.

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Ya’ll do not need to go to Maryland and let the 19th string QB, who is a freshman linebacker, beat ya’ll……oh wait…….thats the type QB ya’ll recruit! Come on Teckies, I know this is all in fun, but what ya’ll are doing is not working…..lets say CPJ is a decent coach (questionable.) He still could not recruit Warren Beatty to an orgy if it was 1969……..

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I am convinced most of the negativity is coming from closet Dawg fans and non-alumni. What I have watched since CPJ come to BDS is a high powered offense, and terrible defenses, and really bad special teams. Which means you are going to win some and lose some. Some years up some years down. Once he finds a decent…even average Defensive coordinator he’ll be back on top. I worry about the recruits but frankly our biggest recruits have all been Defensive and frankly aren’t working out. THe kids on offense are getting the job done. So I assume most of you are not watching the games and just coming on here to blast off half assed and frankly un informed stupidity. Taking total win-lose as your only criteria is simplton foolhardiness…and must not be coming from alumni…

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