Maryland down to fifth quarterback

Due to unfathomably bad luck with injuries, Maryland’s quarterback against Georgia Tech Saturday will be a freshman linebacker.

Shawn Petty will be at quarterback for the Terrapins, assuming he doesn’t get injured before then. The Terrapins’ fourth quarterback to play this season because of season-ending injuries to the first three, true freshman Caleb Rowe, tore his ACL in Saturday’s loss to Boston College. It was Rowe’s first college start.

“I don’t know something like this has ever happened to a team at that position,” Maryland coach Randy Edsall told reporters Sunday night on his teleconference.

Going into the preseason, C.J. Brown was the only quarterback on the roster with playing experience, and he tore his ACL in the preseason during a noncontact drill. He was replaced by Perry Hills, who started seven games before tearing his ACL. Devin Burns came in for Hills against N.C. State and then tore the Lisfranc ligament in his foot.

Rowe, a true freshman, played quarterback and linebacker in high school. According to the Washington Times, Rowe “looked every bit like the linebacker he is during warmups Saturday” against Boston College. The No. 3 backup Saturday was Brian McMahon, a true freshman tight end who played quarterback in high school.

The injuries followed the transfer of Danny O’Brien, who started 17 games for Maryland in 2010 and 2011, to Wisconsin, not to mention more than 20 other players who transferred out in Edsall’s first 14 months as head coach.

To compare Maryland’s with Tech, it would be similar to Tevin Washington transferring over the summer, followed by Vad Lee, Synjyn Days and Justin Thomas all suffering season-ending injuries. At that point, Tech’s options would probably be B-back and former quarterback David Sims and A-back Dennis Andrews, a true freshman who played quarterback as an early enrollee last spring. And, considering that both Sims and Andrews came to Tech as quarterbacks and have practiced at the position (Sims also played a few snaps in 2010), Tech’s situation would be considered the far better of the two.

Maryland is 4-4 overall and 2-2 in ACC play.

139 comments Add your comment

Now that is some tough luck...

October 29th, 2012
8:58 am

…see Old Gold, I told you last night that Tech would win one more game…

Now that is some tough luck...

October 29th, 2012
9:01 am

…wow, a linebacker playing QB, and a freshman linebacker at that! If Tech doesn’t put 9 guys on the line each and every down this week (while on defense) then the whole team should be fired…

SeanMcGuire

October 29th, 2012
9:04 am

Vad lee all day every day!!!! Aka the truth!!!

tooltime234

October 29th, 2012
9:07 am

God I have a bad feeling we are going to lose to a fifth string QB

CloudmanJacket

October 29th, 2012
9:10 am

@SeanMcGuire…Vad Lee didn’t really do much more than Washington. They both got the team in range for a field goal and that was it. The only difference is the 1st go around they missed the field goal. From what I have seen, Vad Lee is a little better passer, but Washington runs the option better. Either way, we will continue to suck with CPJ as coach. He is a joke. We didn’t SCORE A SINGLE OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AGAINST BYU and the firing of Groh didn’t really help out on defense..now did it? BYU scored 41. This is really getting embarrassing.

Crazy Robert

October 29th, 2012
9:13 am

Sure hope you are wrong tooltime234, but given what this season has looked like up to now, I wouldn’t bet on it.

Kyle

October 29th, 2012
9:27 am

SeanMcGuire

October 29th, 2012
9:28 am

Little bit better passer ha try ALOT better passer..and it’s ok you guys will see how good he is when he finally can play more than two series..have faith young grasshopper his time will come..and it will be amazing

Paul in NH

October 29th, 2012
9:38 am

I would feel more sympathy for Edsel if he hadn’t run off Danny O’Brien.

Jon Koncak

October 29th, 2012
9:46 am

Ga Tech football is a raging dumpster fire that cannot be put out…..

General Matthew Ridgeway

October 29th, 2012
9:55 am

I’m the unknown hero of the Korean War.
I warned against a landwar in SE Asia and did anyone listen?
58,000 dead, thousands more with lost limbs and a waste of billions better spent in America.
I also warned against playing BYU.
Similar mindsets in both foes.
Think about it.

Beat UGA

October 29th, 2012
10:01 am

Lets be sporting about this unfortunate turn of events: We will start our nose tackle at quarterback, get some reps TJ, your roll model is the Phillsbury Throw Boy who played quarterback at Kentucky a few years ago, he was a little under you size at 6′5″ and 260 pounds, but he could take a beating and keep on playing!

Full Metal (the Original)

October 29th, 2012
10:04 am

The problem is recruiting and that’s just not going to get any better. When the currrent season is being compared to Bill Lewis’ last, you know it’s time to make the hard decision. My vote is for George Godsey as the new HC.

And further more

October 29th, 2012
10:06 am

they have a better record than GT so not feeling sorry for them

Newtonite

October 29th, 2012
10:45 am

Ken, put on your research cap — I think a similar thing happened to Tech back in the 70’s. We were down to our 7th string QB, as I remember. I think Kim King and Ken Whisenhunt were among the players involved.

Technically Correct

October 29th, 2012
10:53 am

If this QB has ever thrown a football in his life, I don’t like our chances. Come to think of it, if he has ever taken a snap, I don’t like our chances.

razorjacket

October 29th, 2012
10:54 am

They’ll still get 400+ yards and 30+ points.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
11:01 am

They are down to their 5th QB? I wish we were down to our 2nd QB…

Technically Correct

October 29th, 2012
11:02 am

Danny Sheridan has Tech as a 7 point favorite against Maryland. Obviously, Mr. Sheridan was under a rock last weekend and did not see the ugly butt-kicking that BYU dished out.

GTDude

October 29th, 2012
11:06 am

ONLY problem is that the turtles’ defense is very good, still think we find a way to win but not by much

1 4 GT

October 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

Just left the Doctor. Im Down to 345 lbs. Lost 65 lbs in 6 months.

The Bamboo Shaft

October 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

Against our defense, sounds like a fair fight. ;)

Uh, Newtonite...

October 29th, 2012
12:38 pm

…Kim King played for Bobby Dodd about 20 years before Ken played at Tech…wrong story, dude…

And, SeanMcGuire...

October 29th, 2012
12:40 pm

…Vad is just as bad a QB as TW, and he proved it with his extended playing time last Saturday vs BYU…

The Bamboo Shaft

October 29th, 2012
12:41 pm

@Newtonite:
Ken Whisenhunt was our emergency backup QB when we tied #1 Notre Dame 3-3 in 1980.

Ted M

October 29th, 2012
12:42 pm

“Ga Tech football is a raging dumpster fire that cannot be put out…..”

Ha…that is so true!

doc

October 29th, 2012
12:44 pm

wonder if our defense can stop em?

Ted M

October 29th, 2012
12:46 pm

Vad may not have done much but he hasn’t had enough reps. Maybe he’ll get better. TW is not gonna get any better.

old dog

October 29th, 2012
12:47 pm

Not ribbin’ at ya’ll, but that should put him (their QB) on about the same skill level as wwhat Tech has…………..maybe now it’ll be an even match.
I like my Tech friends, but QB ain’t been the hot spot this year….more of an athlete in ya’lls o than a real QB…………..

GIVE ME A BREAK

October 29th, 2012
12:58 pm

Start Vad and let the whole game be his to win or lose. It proves nothing if Washington starts and beats Maryland.

GIVE ME A BREAK

October 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

Congrats, 1 4 GT. You’ll be in playing shape soon.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
1:09 pm

Nameless: you are a blathering idiot with no nuts to create a unique handle.

Use “Take the Wheel”.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
1:11 pm

What did Vad prove? In half the number of drives, he had more rush yards, pass yards, and points than TW. And actually sniffed the goal line. And had less turnovers. And had more energy.

The team wants Vad too.

I’m glad to see that all my posts since after the VT game have been vindicated. There is now hope for GT football.

Dawg Detective

October 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

I want Vad to start too.
Especially against Uga so he can get started on the same annual beatdown plan we have for him we used on Reggie Ball.

Uh, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

…what game were you watching Saturday – both Vad and TW sucked while playing QB – he only “sniffed” the goal line thanks to 45 yards in penalties; after that I could not tell whether TW or Vad was playing QB – they looked the same, except for when Vad tripped over his own feet…

Uh, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:21 pm

…thanks for the info on the Tharpe Fund and the associated tag – now, go learn what “endowed” scholarship means and you will see that your comment about taxpayers paying for “athletic” scholarships is just wrong…the Funds (Tharpe and Tech) are more than just “endowed” scholarship money – D’OH…

Uh, I probably should not have used the term "endowed" with GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:23 pm

…he will probably think I am referring to body parts, as small minded as he is (oops, I did it again, now he will think I am describing HIS body parts when I used the term “small”)…

Bookies

October 29th, 2012
1:30 pm

The spread. Tech has been picked by the bookies every game except VT.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
1:30 pm

Nameless: go grow some nuts and create a handle you blathering idiot. Then I can educate you some more. Buh bye.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
1:34 pm

Where’s my buddies MaconGTFan, GT in TN, Take the Wheel, etc.?!?! MIA this week i guess. All those weeks of defending Tevin makes them look like complete idiots I guess. LOL.

So far, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:34 pm

…itr appears the only one being educated on here regarding anything is you…

www

October 29th, 2012
1:35 pm

i respect both guys and their abilities, but i expect an upgrade at the qb position with vad lee getting more snaps.

2012 season, yards per attempt:

vad lee 11.4
tevin washington 9.8

2012 season, passing touchdowns/interceptions

vad lee 2/0
tevin washington 4/3

And now, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:35 pm

…you afre asking for your additional “made up names” to come to your defense – sad, just sad…

Uh, www...

October 29th, 2012
1:36 pm

…statistics are for losers – oops, they are both losers, so I guess you are on to something…

nameless blathering idiot...

October 29th, 2012
1:39 pm

If you think the Tharpe and Tech funds pay for all scholarships, you sir are a moron.

uh, nameless moron...

October 29th, 2012
1:41 pm

you are the only idiot on here still defending TW. Did Vad turn you down for prom? Are you his ex-girlfriend? LOL. Fool.

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:42 pm

…if you continue to think that any tax money goes to “athletic” scholarships you are just wrong…

uh, nameless moron...

October 29th, 2012
1:42 pm

Did you just call your boyfriend a loser a few posts ago? What an about face! Finally admitting that TEvin is aloser?

Pigs do fly!

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:43 pm

…who is defending TW? I have only commented on the inadequacies of VL as a QB…

uh, nameless moron...

October 29th, 2012
1:43 pm

you are a fool. But please, educate me, where does the other 75% of money come from for the athletic scholarships?

Uh, blathering moron...

October 29th, 2012
1:44 pm

Vad tripped over his own feet? What game was that? What an idiot, go watch a replay.

old gold

October 29th, 2012
1:49 pm

To all who think that this may be a chance at a win, don’t get too excited yet. Bascially all he has to do is hand off the ball to a running back. The way we play defense, expect a heavy barrage of run plays, of which we will have a real problem stopping. Also, they have a “real” head coach, who will make adjustments. Expect another loss.

OK, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
1:49 pm

“Georgia Tech’s student-athletes have a long and proud history of bringing distinction to the Institute on the playing field, in the classroom, and in their careers. The Alexander-Tharpe Fund, Inc. was established to ensure that this tradition can be extended far into the future. By giving to the A-T Fund, which exists as a means to support scholarships for Tech’s student-athletes, you will help generate a number of dividends for Georgia Tech’s student-athletes, the Institute as a whole, and the greater Atlanta community.

The primary purpose of the Alexander-Tharpe Fund, Inc. is to raise the money necessary to pay for Georgia Tech’s student-athletes’ scholarships. Our goal at A-T is to raise enough money in unrestricted annual giving to cover the cost of the number of scholarships currently allowed by the NCAA.”

D’OH…

Uh, blathering moron...

October 29th, 2012
1:56 pm

The Athletic Association’s scholarship endowment has a current market value of more than $30 million, which generates approximately $1.5 million annually. This means approximately 25 percent of the annual scholarship costs for student-athletes are funded by endowment.

http://www.ramblinwreck.com/ot/alexander/scholarship-endowments.html

So, blathering idiot, where does the rest of the scholarship money come from? Santa Claus?

OK, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:06 pm

..as I asked you to do before, please learn the difference between “endowed” scholarship money and non-endowed scholarship money. But I will give you a heads up…

The GOAL of the Tharpe Fund, most other universities’ athletic fund raising groups, is to have fully “endowed” scholarships for all sports; this means that they would like to have enough money donated to invest so that the interest from the investment pays for scholarships in perpetuity (that means forever without ever having to raise another dime for scholarships).

At Tech, they need $500,000 to fully “endow” one scholarship. So, since they have not yet obtained that much money for EACH scholarship “in perptuity”, they rely on OTHER donations through the Tharpe Fund and the Tech Fund to provide the remaining scholarship money.

End of lesson – go back to the tag line you supplied about the Endowed Scholarships at GT through the Tharpe Fund and read about how much each sport requires in endowed money…then, if available, call the folks at Tech at the Tharpe Fund and ask them how much more comes in to provide additional scholarship money for athletes, and you will have “the rest of the money”…

Uh, complete and total idiot...

October 29th, 2012
2:11 pm

Again, if you think that the Tharpe and Tech Fund gets donations to pay for the other 75% of scholarships every year, you are a fool. If you can find ONE source to support your claim, I’ll believe you.

Nowhere on the Tharpe or Tech Fund website does it say that it funds all athletic scholarships 100%. But keep believing what you want.

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:13 pm

…The Tharpe Fund and the Tech Fund raise a heck of a lot more than $1.5mil per year – heck, the Tech Fund ALONE raises approx. $9mil via the sale of season football tickets (guesstimating 30K season tickets at approx, $300 per seat)…

MaconGTFan

October 29th, 2012
2:13 pm

I’m right here Joe. Unlike you I have better stuff to do than obsess over a 19 year old on a blog. And are you really trying to stick up for Vad after Saturdays game? He looked absolutely horrid and if not for penalties that made up over half the drive, Vad would have dropped 0 points just like Tevin. BYU had a great d and Tech wasn’t ready for it. Yes Tevin looked bad, but so did Vad. He continued to misread the option and didn’t look to accurate throwing the ball either. Only way we win out with Vad is to throw 60-70% of our games. This o-line can’t pass block that consistently though, so it’s not gonna happen that way. Vad may be a great talent, but he’s not ready to run this offense yet and has proved it every game he has played with his misreads.

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:15 pm

…that $9mil is for donations for the right to purchase tickets only; add in the cost of approx. 30K season tickets at approx. $265 per seat and you have an additional $8mil in revenue…or, approx. $17mil from football alone…

Ted M

October 29th, 2012
2:16 pm

TW H
has had a ton more reps the Vad. TW is not gonna get better but Vad might.

Uh, complete and total idiot...

October 29th, 2012
2:17 pm

the $1.5 million figure is NOT what the Tharpe fund raised. You apparently can’t read. That’s what the endowment generates. go to dictionary.com to learn what endowment means.

BigHittas

October 29th, 2012
2:19 pm

Wow Ken,

Does this mean that Tech might have a chance to win?

MaconGTFan

October 29th, 2012
2:20 pm

That’s true Ted, but as it stands tight now Tevin is the better QB for this offense. Hopefully Vad can get it down before next season. Other wise its probably gonna be the Justin Thomas show next year. I’ve said it before and will say it again. Vad might not even be the starting QB next year. Its gonna come down to who runs the option the best and makes the fewest mistakes in spring and fall camp next year.

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:22 pm

…there are a lot so GT grads who contribute a heck of a lot more than $300 to the Tharpe Fund…

And, per the tag line you supplied about the “endowed” scholarships, there are 222 FULL scholarships available to GT athletes (men and women) – and the same site says the cost of full rides for out of state athletes is $30000 per scholly, and approx $15K for instate – Thus, for 222 FULL scholarships, at $30000 per ’ship, that is $6.6mil, a mere 40% of money raised through football tickets alone…

So, GT Joe, though you are a fan of GT, could it be possible that you are not a graduate of GT since you seem not to grasp the nuances of basic economics?

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
2:23 pm

MaconFanGT:

Vad looked “horrid”? LOL, let’s see:

1st play: Vad pass complete for 12 yards
2nd: Vad rush 9 yards
3rd: Vad rush 4 yards
4th: Vad pass 8 yards

Yeah horrid.

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:24 pm

you could add the $1.5 mil that the “endowed” schollys generate, and you have $18.5 mil; thus the $6.6mil; is only 36% of the money generated from football and from the endowment…

So, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:25 pm

…give it up son, and cut your losses…

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:26 pm

…Vad still could only generate a FG, then he tripped over his own feet the next time he got a chance to show his stuff…

MaconGTFan

October 29th, 2012
2:26 pm

Yet you leave out how we only scored 3 points because of penalties. He also played two more series (when the game was already most) and didn’t do anything. One of which was a 3 and out. Yeah he looked awesome didn’t he.

And, oh yeah, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:29 pm

…the phrase “endowment generates” means that that is “interest” on the money invested via the endowment donations…

And, oh yeah, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:31 pm

…you do know what “interest on money invested” means, don’t you?

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
2:33 pm

If you think Vad tripped over his feet, you are a moron.

Out of about 10 plays for Vad where he rushed or passed, only 1 was for a loss. His passing was sharp. His 1st 4 plays were plays that Tevin just CANT make. Period.

But keep defending Tevin, Macon. Your genius is amazing.

ibidGT

October 29th, 2012
2:36 pm

Vad tripped over the legs of an O lineman. This happens even at the NFL level, are they bad QBs too?

I will say that Vad didn’t look good running the option yesterday, but neither did TW. Unlike Tevin though, Vad hasn’t been running the system in actual games for 2+ years.

Uh blathering idiot...

October 29th, 2012
2:39 pm

What on earth are you talking about? Are you saying that tickets are paying for the scholarships?

Do you KNOW who owns the stadium? The seats? It’s the state of Georgia. Bye dummy.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
2:41 pm

Gotta love when MaconFan professes to know the play calls when Vad comes in the game. Like all the “misreads” he does. What a joke.

Keep defending Tevin. You are alone now.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
2:42 pm

Yeah, Vad DID look awesome. Then again, everything is relative. I’ve been used to watching your boy Tevin.

But, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:45 pm

…the “state of GA” does not own the Tharpe Fund or the Tech Fund, and if you want to say that the “state” owns the stadium then I guess you may be correct, in a round about way since Tech is a public institution, though I doubt the state really looks at it that way…

Wow, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:47 pm

…”Are you saying that tickets are paying for the scholarships?”

You just removed all doubt…about how dumb you really are…

Wow, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:49 pm

…and the Tharpe Fund and the Tech Fund are PRIVATE entities, just as the Hartmann Fund at UGA and IPTAY at Clemson are private…

And, to be clear, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
2:55 pm

…yes, I think ticket sales do go to pay scholarships – and, no, this money is not considered “taxpayer money”…which is where all of this give and take started…

Uh, blathering idiot...

October 29th, 2012
2:58 pm

All scholarships are paid by the GT AThletic Association. Some money comes from tickets, some from the Tharpe and Tech funds. Some from events, the TV deals, concessions, etc.

But remember, the GTAA is an entity under Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech allows the GTAA to exist, using Georgia Tech (and thus, state owned) facilities to generate revenue.

In the end, the taxpayers are allowing the GTAA to operate using state owned facilities; and the money (aside from the 25% from the donor funds) come from state owned assets. So yes, taxpayers pay a significant portion of these scholarships.

And, to be clear, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
3:04 pm

…you are wrong, wrong and wrong…carry on…

Uh, blathering idiot...

October 29th, 2012
3:07 pm

Don’t let the facts get in the way of your argument…

Carry on…

Uh, blathering idiot...

October 29th, 2012
3:07 pm

MaconGTFan

October 29th, 2012
3:11 pm

My genius is just as amazing as your obsessive/pedophilia behavior with a 19 year old kid. Even PJ has said he misses reads. Don’t let facts get in your way though Joe.

SansWorld

October 29th, 2012
3:16 pm

Can’t everyone just post under a single name rather than changing it each time based on context? As it is, now I have to actually read the post to know if someone is an idiot or not.

If you are addressing someone specific, can’t ya just indicate that in the body of your post rather than including their handle in your name?

Just a suggestion. of course I suspect I have just kicked a cow patty and will now be bombarded by a bunch of post from “Uh, SansWorld”

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
3:16 pm

Why do you hate Vad so much? Did he ditch you at prom?

FYI, pedophilia is for kids, not 19 year old adults…

Uh blathering idiot...

October 29th, 2012
3:17 pm

please don’t address Sansworld as “Uh, Sansworld…”.

Thank you.

crackbaby

October 29th, 2012
3:18 pm

Nasty argument Gents. Funding for scholarships and facilities are two different animals.

Georgia Tech and UGA (the schools, not just the Athletic Depts.) each have a Foundation that raises money from contributors far too successful to post on these blogs. The Foundations raise money and build facilities that the state won’t fund. Then it gets complicated. Somehow the foundation either donates the facilities or leases them back to the schools.

Can’t think of any Athletic facilities at Tech that were done this way (simply not in the know), but a number of developments east of the connector have been handled through the Foundation. UGA does the same thing (how do you think they are going to build an engineering program w/o legislative funding?).

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
3:18 pm

MaconFanGT: are you actually saying that Tevin should stay the starter?

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
3:21 pm

crackbaby: see page 29 in the link a few posts above:

“Additions and improvements to the athletic facilities used by the Association become the property of the
State of Georgia upon installation or acquisition. Under a lease agreement with the Board or Regents of
the University System of Georgia, the Association has the use of this property for up to 40 years.”

IN other words, the state owns the facilities, which the GTAA uses to generate revenues.

www

October 29th, 2012
3:25 pm

how many different screen names is gt joe going to use to agree with himself?

his obsession with vad lee is odd, also. reminds me of wne.

MaconGTFan

October 29th, 2012
3:26 pm

Why did that post not show up?

SansWorld

October 29th, 2012
3:28 pm

Maybe Ken can do an other Who’s-Who for Screen names

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
3:32 pm

I use “GT Joe” and “Uh blathering idiot…” (the latter only when I am addressing the blathering idiot. That’s it for me.

Now “take the wheel” has about a dozen different handles on here. He won’t stick with one, out of fear that he’ll be called out in the future for his idiocy.

crackbaby

October 29th, 2012
3:33 pm

@GT Joe (not sure which one…)

Agreed that the state owns the facilities but the were not necessarily built with taxpayer’s money.

Note to taxpayers – once the Govt. takes your dough, it’s not yours anymore…

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
3:33 pm

Hey MaconFanGT: tell us how many years of football you played and coached, so we’ll trust your opinions about Tevin being the best QB for GT. I’ll bet you have a long history of football on your resume, eh?

Clearly, your opinion is worth more than anyone else’s who’s never played.

www

October 29th, 2012
3:36 pm

uh oh, now deadspin has gotten in on this:

http://deadspin.com/5955879/college-shameday-who-embarrassed-themselves-on-saturday-besides-bob-stoops-and-oklahoma?

BYU 41, Georgia Tech 17: Congratulations, Georgia Tech—you are now the only ACC program against which BYU has a winning record, something we can’t even say about Virginia or Boston College. It’s hard to know whom to credit when an offense is this ineffectual; you don’t want to discount the defense’s effort but you also want to make Paul Johnson look stupid. As such, here are some things that make Georgia Tech’s coach look stupid.

• Zero third-down conversions out of 10 tries.
• No passing or rushing touchdowns for the first time since Tech’s 2008 bowl game loss to LSU.
• The longest Yellow Jacket drive, a 70-yard enterprise that ended in a field goal, depended on personal-foul yardage for over half of that distance.

All of those, of course, could be explained away as one bad game that made Paul Johnson look stupid. But! Georgia Tech now enters November with five losses for the first time since 1994 and is in serious danger of not making a bowl for the first time in 16 years. That, ladies and gentlemen, is some sustainable Paul Johnson stupid.

GT Joe

October 29th, 2012
3:50 pm

So let’s recap scholarship funding:

The Tharpe and Tech fund pay about $1.5 million/year for scholarships
Total scholarships are about $8 million/year
The remaining $6.5 million is paid by the GT Athletic Association
The GTAA gets money from Georgia Tech, tickets, TV deals, sponsorships, etc.
ALL of these monies leverage the “Georgia Tech” name (state owned) and/or Georgia Tech facilities (state owned)
Therefore, the state (i.e., the taxpayers) own Georgia Tech, and scholarships are a product of this ownership.

Therefore, all taxpayers (and donors to GT, for that matter) have the right to boo players.

Stinger 1

October 29th, 2012
3:52 pm

To get back to the subject at hand which is Ken`s story about Maryland`s problems at QB, this may give a flicker of hope for GT to win this week. Not getting too excited yet.
The way things have been going, they could find a way to lose again.

old jacket

October 29th, 2012
4:35 pm

You’ll are talking about the offense beng poor but I have never seen a worse defence in 57 years

Always a Jacket

October 29th, 2012
5:08 pm

Let me understand;
1. never played college QB
2. True Freshman

Jackets’ defense will hold them to 300 yards

PLAYMAKER

October 29th, 2012
5:27 pm

Watch this, GT will stop a pitiful Maryland team and CPJ offense will run up and down the field on an inferior team and CPJ and the Gold Colored Brianless crowd will be hooting for Coach Kell to be the DC and that CPJ is the man! Watch it, I told you but the truth is this program I’m so sad to say needs an overhaul!!!!!!

SansWorld

October 29th, 2012
5:27 pm

There has been some seriously bad foot ball played in the ACC this year. I suspect we can beat Maryland. They are not exactly ridding high after losing to BC.

There you go again, GT Joe (with apologies to Ronald Reagan)...

October 29th, 2012
5:45 pm

…thinking that the Tharpe only contributes $1.5 mil toward the athletic program -

And, thanks for providing the GTAA Annual Report and proving my point much better than I could do it…

There you go again, GT Joe (with apologies to Ronald Reagan)...

October 29th, 2012
5:45 pm

WOW, just WOW…

BuzzEng

October 29th, 2012
6:36 pm

A fifth-string quarterback against our defense… sounds like a fair fight to me…

Tech Man

October 29th, 2012
7:05 pm

If we lose to Maryland CPJ better not come back to Georgia.

TechApp fan

October 29th, 2012
7:18 pm

MD down to a fifth QB.
Tech bloggers down to a fifth…

Seriously, wonder how many QB’s has Johnson really had to run his O with good “reads”?

Prometheus

October 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

Terps can’t pass, Tech can’t pass, what’s the big deal!

fuzzybee78

October 29th, 2012
8:01 pm

GT Joe, Booing college kids is a selfish CLASSLESS act. Said it before— college kids do dumb stuff sometimes, doesnt matter, its COLLEGE. You get a pass in college — not the pros and there is a big difference even if you dont want to see it. Yo mama should have raised you better!

How many of you did STUPID stuff in college, even when you were trying!!!! Duuuhhh.

Brad

October 29th, 2012
8:15 pm

Hey, I collect Georgia Tech football ticket stubs. I’m not going to the game this weekend, but would be interested in buying a stub from the game. If anyone is interested in selling their stub after the game, please shoot me an e-mail at brad@georgiatechticketstubs.com

uh nameless idiot ...

October 29th, 2012
9:00 pm

The tharpe fund might be worth $30 million, but it only contributes the interest on that money to scholarships, i.e., 5% or $1.5 million per year…this is from the website, I don’t make stuff up

Yes, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
9:05 pm

…you do make this stuff up – you obviously, sir, have no idea how college athletic funding works; but don’t let the facts get in the way of your rant, just as you do with your constant banter on VL and his (in)abilities…

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

…I am actually embarrassed for you and your intellectual shortcomings…

And, GT Joe...

October 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

“The Athletic Association’s scholarship endowment has a current market value of more than $30 million, which generates approximately $1.5 million annually. This means approximately 25 percent of the annual scholarship costs for student-athletes are funded by endowment”

Again, GT Joe, you need to understand what an “endowed” scholarship is – the A/T Fund sure raises a heck of a lot more than this “interest only” each year – the $30mil principal is money that is there year in and year out, the Fund raises this amount annually, if not more, too, to GO WITH the $1.5mil that is generated as interest…

Wow, again, I am embarrassed for you, especially since you are putting all this dumbness out for all of your Tech bretheren to see…

Progessive Jacket

October 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Hey Ken, are you still wearing your pants that zip up the back side? CPJ loves players like you…ready for action in a moment’s notice! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Jackets!!!!!!!!! Squeal like a pig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GIVE ME A BREAK

October 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

Do you ever wonder why a QB that ran the option in high school didn’t want to play for CPJ.

Full Metal Jacket

October 29th, 2012
11:58 pm

UM has played some decent games this year, probably two more than Tech. We should be building for next year, giving youngsters some quality reps and game prep seeing if Lee is or isn’t that much better than TW (short of recruiting a stud h.s. QB, we’re stuck wth Lee as a starter next year anyhow). And hopefully CPJ can find a DC and rediscover his own inner OC and create some meaningful new wrinkles to make the option work again. A lot of maybes and ifs and woulda-shoulda-coulda’s, so in short, it’s going to be a long winter and off-season. I never thought I’d be the one saying it, but hey, basketball season is just around the corner and we’ve got a shiny new arena thanks to our departed AD.

Full Metal Jacket

October 30th, 2012
12:01 am

Break, I have often wondered why Brandon Shaw left Tech…..he had the pedigree (Conner ain’t half bad)–h.s. coach dad and option experience…..and I know that he wouldn’t have gotten many reps in Nesbitt’s last years, but really…..CPJ must have said something to him or vice versa.

Full Metal Jacket

October 30th, 2012
12:04 am

Coach Johnson, I know you would never deign to read a mere Tech fan and contributor’s post, but I hope to heck you will make an effort to better represent the Institute publicly……you seem to think that winning games is enough….but we haven’t been doing much of that either lately, have we? I wish the new AD will get more positive energy and personality out of CPJ. We need it.

Used to be AT giver

October 30th, 2012
12:11 am

Amen brother, FMJacket. “What we have here is a failure to communicate” Johnson does not communicate well with fans and alums and the general public……all of whom are potential ticket buyers and supporters for future games. Where is the encouragement, the optimism, the look ahead,…the sincere explanation for recent failures and disappointments. Feels like we’re about 3-10 over our last dozen or so games…..Those are Bill Lewis and early Bill Curry numbers. “So what are you willing to do next to turn this thing around?”

Used to be AT giver

October 30th, 2012
12:15 am

Am I wrong or has Tevin Washington been smiling and laughing after horrible passes, interceptions, and even losses? Television shots and binoculars at this years games seem to show that. I am not satisfied with a player or players who laugh off mistakes, nor with a coach that lets them do so. If you don’t really care, at least don’t show it.

Used to be AT giver

October 30th, 2012
12:19 am

New AD? Maybe time for a new FB HC too. Most of our sports seem to be heading in the right direction or maintaining a consistent level of success. I am hopeful that Gregory’s second year will be better and I do like the way he represents the Institute and the athletics programs. I am a loyal Tech fan but i am getting weary of mediocre football and such lousy PR by the FB program. You can act like a jerk like Saban when you win like a winner like Saban.

Gr8 2B aFuzzyB

October 30th, 2012
12:23 am

At least Maryland’s injuries are known. If we had that kind of bad luck we’d all be wondering what happened. The only thing less transparent than CPJ’s team is the O-bama admin.

Gr8 2B aFuzzyB

October 30th, 2012
12:27 am

Anybody that thinks UMD qb situation gives us the advantage needs trheir head examined. Right now we are too busy feeling sorry for ourselves.

Full Metal Jacket

October 30th, 2012
12:30 am

With our performance over the last dozen games (last year to this year), our football program is approaching the low water mark of the Lewis era. We’re still getting over the Hewitt era in BB (and his buyout) and now we can’t even look repsectable on the field. Wins and losses are important, but more important is the way you do either one. And we are losing UGLY. Missed tackles, poor play execution, unimaginative play calling, and general lack of preparation tactically and mentally looks so bad and makes all of us look bad. Players are kids and while they are paid with scholarships usually, coaches are full-time employees of the Insitute who must be held to higher standard. We wouldn’t accept this kind of result from our administrators, our faculty, or even our janitors at Tech…..

Full Metal Jacket

October 30th, 2012
12:36 am

Maybe time to wipe the depth chart clean, start from scratch and build for next year. At least start preparing for UGA so we won’t embarrass ourselves in Athens. Duke, UNC, and UGA will have little trouble with the team that has shown up in the white and gold for the last 10 games. UM may be our last chance at a win, but I’d rather be focussed on building towards the future. Since we’re stuck with CPJ that means shaking up the rest of the coaching staff and put the players on notice. Then again, maybe they’re tired of the curmudgeon act, too.

Full Metal Jacket

October 30th, 2012
12:38 am

Obama lies, but CPJ don’t say nuthin’ …. he lay low.

GT TN

October 30th, 2012
1:29 am

GT Joe..I haven’t gone anywhere and your recent post lets me know you are still and idiot..TW struggled on Saturday..I have never had anything against Vad..I gave always said that Vad hasn’t done anything to show he should be a starter..he lead us to a fg with the help of 45 yds n penalties…his last 2 drives he got 1 first down against a defense playing no starters..that is when he should have shined..he has a ton of ability but he is not the all save all as you think he is..does he deserve to get playing time..yes without a doubt…did he show me anything on Saturday to change my thoughts on who is better right now..no he didn’t..it also lets me know what kind of a person that thinks it is ok to boo..these are 20 year old kids before they are football players..if they were paid it would be 1 thing..but they are not..these are someone’s kid you are booing at..it also shows you most likely font have kids or you would change your thoughts on booing someone..

Buzz 2011

October 30th, 2012
6:17 am

Jckets to kick some Gawg butt!

Tech1986

October 30th, 2012
6:49 am

Shaw left to go to GSU because he wanted to be a high school coach just like his dad and also because he realized that he would not beat out Nesbit, although would have been nice to get his brother. We did get his teammates Drummond and Cross. Again, if a student wants to be a teacher and coach, he’s not coming to Tech since we do not offer any Education majors

come on

October 30th, 2012
7:06 am

bad luck for them and i wish them the best, but we better not lose to a lb at qb. i don’t think i can handle that

good to see others put gi joe

October 30th, 2012
1:31 pm

in his rightful place so i didnt have to.

hey gi joe which names are you posting under today eh?

next thing you know he will choose to be gt ‘barbie’ .lmao what a re…

...Take The Wheel

October 30th, 2012
4:05 pm

Used to be AT giver
October 30th, 2012
12:15 am

Am I wrong or has Tevin Washington been smiling and laughing after horrible passes, interceptions, and even losses?

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Have a darn seat with this foolery!! Of course he is not smiling and laughing at those things one bit. You think he WANTED to see his final season of football go up in flames?? Thats such a silly remark. But nothing coming from you people surprise me anymore. Theres no need to try to demonize him.

You will get to see Vad start this Saturday. And as many of you have called for, I hope he plays the entire game. Of course he may look like the messiah you all think him to be playing against the 5th string QB but that wont matter either.

...Take The Wheel

October 30th, 2012
4:15 pm

Ken???

How is all this political speak getting through the filters and my posts (including nothing political) get blocked?

Ken Sugiura

October 30th, 2012
5:19 pm

i’m not seeing where your posts have been blocked, take the wheel.

SmittyATL

October 31st, 2012
8:02 am

This article makes no sense. It says (correctly) that Shawn Petty will play QB on Saturday, and that 4th-stringer Caleb Rowe tore his ACL last week. But then it says (incorrectly) that Rowe played QB and LB in high school and looked like “the linebacker that he is” during warm ups.

Rowe is out, Petty is in. Petty was the linebacker. Get it right, AJC.

...Take The Wheel

October 31st, 2012
4:23 pm

Ok… thanks for checking Ken. Sometimes when I post it never appears and when I re-try it will say that the message has already been posted. IDK. It could very well be user error! Thanks for checking :)