Maryland down to fifth quarterback
Due to unfathomably bad luck with injuries, Maryland’s quarterback against Georgia Tech Saturday will be a freshman linebacker.
Shawn Petty will be at quarterback for the Terrapins, assuming he doesn’t get injured before then. The Terrapins’ fourth quarterback to play this season because of season-ending injuries to the first three, true freshman Caleb Rowe, tore his ACL in Saturday’s loss to Boston College. It was Rowe’s first college start.
Going into the preseason, C.J. Brown was the only quarterback on the roster with playing experience, and he tore his ACL in the preseason during a noncontact drill. He was replaced by Perry Hills, who started seven games before tearing his ACL. Devin Burns came in for Hills against N.C. State and then tore the Lisfranc ligament in his foot.
Rowe, a true freshman, played quarterback and linebacker in high school. According to the Washington Times, Rowe “looked every bit like the linebacker he is during warmups Saturday” against Boston College. The No. 3 backup Saturday was Brian McMahon, a true freshman tight end who played quarterback in high school.
The injuries followed the transfer of Danny O’Brien, who started 17 games for Maryland in 2010 and 2011, to Wisconsin, not to mention more than 20 other players who transferred out in Edsall’s first 14 months as head coach.
To compare Maryland’s with Tech, it would be similar to Tevin Washington transferring over the summer, followed by Vad Lee, Synjyn Days and Justin Thomas all suffering season-ending injuries. At that point, Tech’s options would probably be B-back and former quarterback David Sims and A-back Dennis Andrews, a true freshman who played quarterback as an early enrollee last spring. And, considering that both Sims and Andrews came to Tech as quarterbacks and have practiced at the position (Sims also played a few snaps in 2010), Tech’s situation would be considered the far better of the two.
Maryland is 4-4 overall and 2-2 in ACC play.
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Uh, blathering moron...
October 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
Vad tripped over his own feet? What game was that? What an idiot, go watch a replay.
old gold
October 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
To all who think that this may be a chance at a win, don’t get too excited yet. Bascially all he has to do is hand off the ball to a running back. The way we play defense, expect a heavy barrage of run plays, of which we will have a real problem stopping. Also, they have a “real” head coach, who will make adjustments. Expect another loss.
OK, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
“Georgia Tech’s student-athletes have a long and proud history of bringing distinction to the Institute on the playing field, in the classroom, and in their careers. The Alexander-Tharpe Fund, Inc. was established to ensure that this tradition can be extended far into the future. By giving to the A-T Fund, which exists as a means to support scholarships for Tech’s student-athletes, you will help generate a number of dividends for Georgia Tech’s student-athletes, the Institute as a whole, and the greater Atlanta community.
The primary purpose of the Alexander-Tharpe Fund, Inc. is to raise the money necessary to pay for Georgia Tech’s student-athletes’ scholarships. Our goal at A-T is to raise enough money in unrestricted annual giving to cover the cost of the number of scholarships currently allowed by the NCAA.”
D’OH…
Uh, blathering moron...
October 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
The Athletic Association’s scholarship endowment has a current market value of more than $30 million, which generates approximately $1.5 million annually. This means approximately 25 percent of the annual scholarship costs for student-athletes are funded by endowment.
http://www.ramblinwreck.com/ot/alexander/scholarship-endowments.html
So, blathering idiot, where does the rest of the scholarship money come from? Santa Claus?
OK, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:06 pm
..as I asked you to do before, please learn the difference between “endowed” scholarship money and non-endowed scholarship money. But I will give you a heads up…
The GOAL of the Tharpe Fund, most other universities’ athletic fund raising groups, is to have fully “endowed” scholarships for all sports; this means that they would like to have enough money donated to invest so that the interest from the investment pays for scholarships in perpetuity (that means forever without ever having to raise another dime for scholarships).
At Tech, they need $500,000 to fully “endow” one scholarship. So, since they have not yet obtained that much money for EACH scholarship “in perptuity”, they rely on OTHER donations through the Tharpe Fund and the Tech Fund to provide the remaining scholarship money.
End of lesson – go back to the tag line you supplied about the Endowed Scholarships at GT through the Tharpe Fund and read about how much each sport requires in endowed money…then, if available, call the folks at Tech at the Tharpe Fund and ask them how much more comes in to provide additional scholarship money for athletes, and you will have “the rest of the money”…
Uh, complete and total idiot...
October 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
Again, if you think that the Tharpe and Tech Fund gets donations to pay for the other 75% of scholarships every year, you are a fool. If you can find ONE source to support your claim, I’ll believe you.
Nowhere on the Tharpe or Tech Fund website does it say that it funds all athletic scholarships 100%. But keep believing what you want.
And, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:13 pm
…The Tharpe Fund and the Tech Fund raise a heck of a lot more than $1.5mil per year – heck, the Tech Fund ALONE raises approx. $9mil via the sale of season football tickets (guesstimating 30K season tickets at approx, $300 per seat)…
MaconGTFan
October 29th, 2012
2:13 pm
I’m right here Joe. Unlike you I have better stuff to do than obsess over a 19 year old on a blog. And are you really trying to stick up for Vad after Saturdays game? He looked absolutely horrid and if not for penalties that made up over half the drive, Vad would have dropped 0 points just like Tevin. BYU had a great d and Tech wasn’t ready for it. Yes Tevin looked bad, but so did Vad. He continued to misread the option and didn’t look to accurate throwing the ball either. Only way we win out with Vad is to throw 60-70% of our games. This o-line can’t pass block that consistently though, so it’s not gonna happen that way. Vad may be a great talent, but he’s not ready to run this offense yet and has proved it every game he has played with his misreads.
And, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
…that $9mil is for donations for the right to purchase tickets only; add in the cost of approx. 30K season tickets at approx. $265 per seat and you have an additional $8mil in revenue…or, approx. $17mil from football alone…
Ted M
October 29th, 2012
2:16 pm
TW H
has had a ton more reps the Vad. TW is not gonna get better but Vad might.
Uh, complete and total idiot...
October 29th, 2012
2:17 pm
the $1.5 million figure is NOT what the Tharpe fund raised. You apparently can’t read. That’s what the endowment generates. go to dictionary.com to learn what endowment means.
BigHittas
October 29th, 2012
2:19 pm
Wow Ken,
Does this mean that Tech might have a chance to win?
MaconGTFan
October 29th, 2012
2:20 pm
That’s true Ted, but as it stands tight now Tevin is the better QB for this offense. Hopefully Vad can get it down before next season. Other wise its probably gonna be the Justin Thomas show next year. I’ve said it before and will say it again. Vad might not even be the starting QB next year. Its gonna come down to who runs the option the best and makes the fewest mistakes in spring and fall camp next year.
And, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
…there are a lot so GT grads who contribute a heck of a lot more than $300 to the Tharpe Fund…
And, per the tag line you supplied about the “endowed” scholarships, there are 222 FULL scholarships available to GT athletes (men and women) – and the same site says the cost of full rides for out of state athletes is $30000 per scholly, and approx $15K for instate – Thus, for 222 FULL scholarships, at $30000 per ’ship, that is $6.6mil, a mere 40% of money raised through football tickets alone…
So, GT Joe, though you are a fan of GT, could it be possible that you are not a graduate of GT since you seem not to grasp the nuances of basic economics?
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
2:23 pm
MaconFanGT:
Vad looked “horrid”? LOL, let’s see:
1st play: Vad pass complete for 12 yards
2nd: Vad rush 9 yards
3rd: Vad rush 4 yards
4th: Vad pass 8 yards
Yeah horrid.
And, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:24 pm
you could add the $1.5 mil that the “endowed” schollys generate, and you have $18.5 mil; thus the $6.6mil; is only 36% of the money generated from football and from the endowment…
So, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
…give it up son, and cut your losses…
And, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
…Vad still could only generate a FG, then he tripped over his own feet the next time he got a chance to show his stuff…
MaconGTFan
October 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Yet you leave out how we only scored 3 points because of penalties. He also played two more series (when the game was already most) and didn’t do anything. One of which was a 3 and out. Yeah he looked awesome didn’t he.
And, oh yeah, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
…the phrase “endowment generates” means that that is “interest” on the money invested via the endowment donations…
And, oh yeah, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
…you do know what “interest on money invested” means, don’t you?
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
If you think Vad tripped over his feet, you are a moron.
Out of about 10 plays for Vad where he rushed or passed, only 1 was for a loss. His passing was sharp. His 1st 4 plays were plays that Tevin just CANT make. Period.
But keep defending Tevin, Macon. Your genius is amazing.
ibidGT
October 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Vad tripped over the legs of an O lineman. This happens even at the NFL level, are they bad QBs too?
I will say that Vad didn’t look good running the option yesterday, but neither did TW. Unlike Tevin though, Vad hasn’t been running the system in actual games for 2+ years.
Uh blathering idiot...
October 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
What on earth are you talking about? Are you saying that tickets are paying for the scholarships?
Do you KNOW who owns the stadium? The seats? It’s the state of Georgia. Bye dummy.
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
Gotta love when MaconFan professes to know the play calls when Vad comes in the game. Like all the “misreads” he does. What a joke.
Keep defending Tevin. You are alone now.
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
2:42 pm
Yeah, Vad DID look awesome. Then again, everything is relative. I’ve been used to watching your boy Tevin.
But, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:45 pm
…the “state of GA” does not own the Tharpe Fund or the Tech Fund, and if you want to say that the “state” owns the stadium then I guess you may be correct, in a round about way since Tech is a public institution, though I doubt the state really looks at it that way…
Wow, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:47 pm
…”Are you saying that tickets are paying for the scholarships?”
You just removed all doubt…about how dumb you really are…
Wow, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
…and the Tharpe Fund and the Tech Fund are PRIVATE entities, just as the Hartmann Fund at UGA and IPTAY at Clemson are private…
And, to be clear, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
…yes, I think ticket sales do go to pay scholarships – and, no, this money is not considered “taxpayer money”…which is where all of this give and take started…
Uh, blathering idiot...
October 29th, 2012
2:58 pm
All scholarships are paid by the GT AThletic Association. Some money comes from tickets, some from the Tharpe and Tech funds. Some from events, the TV deals, concessions, etc.
But remember, the GTAA is an entity under Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech allows the GTAA to exist, using Georgia Tech (and thus, state owned) facilities to generate revenue.
In the end, the taxpayers are allowing the GTAA to operate using state owned facilities; and the money (aside from the 25% from the donor funds) come from state owned assets. So yes, taxpayers pay a significant portion of these scholarships.
And, to be clear, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
…you are wrong, wrong and wrong…carry on…
Uh, blathering idiot...
October 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
Don’t let the facts get in the way of your argument…
Carry on…
Uh, blathering idiot...
October 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
…consult here for more enlightenment:
http://fin-services.gatech.edu/sites/default/files/Georgia%20Tech%20Athletic%20Association%206%2030%2011.pdf
MaconGTFan
October 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
My genius is just as amazing as your obsessive/pedophilia behavior with a 19 year old kid. Even PJ has said he misses reads. Don’t let facts get in your way though Joe.
SansWorld
October 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
Can’t everyone just post under a single name rather than changing it each time based on context? As it is, now I have to actually read the post to know if someone is an idiot or not.
If you are addressing someone specific, can’t ya just indicate that in the body of your post rather than including their handle in your name?
Just a suggestion. of course I suspect I have just kicked a cow patty and will now be bombarded by a bunch of post from “Uh, SansWorld”
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
Why do you hate Vad so much? Did he ditch you at prom?
FYI, pedophilia is for kids, not 19 year old adults…
Uh blathering idiot...
October 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
please don’t address Sansworld as “Uh, Sansworld…”.
Thank you.
crackbaby
October 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
Nasty argument Gents. Funding for scholarships and facilities are two different animals.
Georgia Tech and UGA (the schools, not just the Athletic Depts.) each have a Foundation that raises money from contributors far too successful to post on these blogs. The Foundations raise money and build facilities that the state won’t fund. Then it gets complicated. Somehow the foundation either donates the facilities or leases them back to the schools.
Can’t think of any Athletic facilities at Tech that were done this way (simply not in the know), but a number of developments east of the connector have been handled through the Foundation. UGA does the same thing (how do you think they are going to build an engineering program w/o legislative funding?).
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
MaconFanGT: are you actually saying that Tevin should stay the starter?
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
crackbaby: see page 29 in the link a few posts above:
“Additions and improvements to the athletic facilities used by the Association become the property of the
State of Georgia upon installation or acquisition. Under a lease agreement with the Board or Regents of
the University System of Georgia, the Association has the use of this property for up to 40 years.”
IN other words, the state owns the facilities, which the GTAA uses to generate revenues.
www
October 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
how many different screen names is gt joe going to use to agree with himself?
his obsession with vad lee is odd, also. reminds me of wne.
MaconGTFan
October 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
Why did that post not show up?
SansWorld
October 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
Maybe Ken can do an other Who’s-Who for Screen names
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
I use “GT Joe” and “Uh blathering idiot…” (the latter only when I am addressing the blathering idiot. That’s it for me.
Now “take the wheel” has about a dozen different handles on here. He won’t stick with one, out of fear that he’ll be called out in the future for his idiocy.
crackbaby
October 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
@GT Joe (not sure which one…)
Agreed that the state owns the facilities but the were not necessarily built with taxpayer’s money.
Note to taxpayers – once the Govt. takes your dough, it’s not yours anymore…
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
Hey MaconFanGT: tell us how many years of football you played and coached, so we’ll trust your opinions about Tevin being the best QB for GT. I’ll bet you have a long history of football on your resume, eh?
Clearly, your opinion is worth more than anyone else’s who’s never played.
www
October 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
uh oh, now deadspin has gotten in on this:
http://deadspin.com/5955879/college-shameday-who-embarrassed-themselves-on-saturday-besides-bob-stoops-and-oklahoma?
BYU 41, Georgia Tech 17: Congratulations, Georgia Tech—you are now the only ACC program against which BYU has a winning record, something we can’t even say about Virginia or Boston College. It’s hard to know whom to credit when an offense is this ineffectual; you don’t want to discount the defense’s effort but you also want to make Paul Johnson look stupid. As such, here are some things that make Georgia Tech’s coach look stupid.
• Zero third-down conversions out of 10 tries.
• No passing or rushing touchdowns for the first time since Tech’s 2008 bowl game loss to LSU.
• The longest Yellow Jacket drive, a 70-yard enterprise that ended in a field goal, depended on personal-foul yardage for over half of that distance.
All of those, of course, could be explained away as one bad game that made Paul Johnson look stupid. But! Georgia Tech now enters November with five losses for the first time since 1994 and is in serious danger of not making a bowl for the first time in 16 years. That, ladies and gentlemen, is some sustainable Paul Johnson stupid.
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
So let’s recap scholarship funding:
The Tharpe and Tech fund pay about $1.5 million/year for scholarships
Total scholarships are about $8 million/year
The remaining $6.5 million is paid by the GT Athletic Association
The GTAA gets money from Georgia Tech, tickets, TV deals, sponsorships, etc.
ALL of these monies leverage the “Georgia Tech” name (state owned) and/or Georgia Tech facilities (state owned)
Therefore, the state (i.e., the taxpayers) own Georgia Tech, and scholarships are a product of this ownership.
Therefore, all taxpayers (and donors to GT, for that matter) have the right to boo players.
Stinger 1
October 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
To get back to the subject at hand which is Ken`s story about Maryland`s problems at QB, this may give a flicker of hope for GT to win this week. Not getting too excited yet.
The way things have been going, they could find a way to lose again.