Johnson faces Lee-Washington decision
More and more is becoming clear about Georgia Tech. Less and less of it offers hope.
The next (and perhaps last) attempt at salvaging the season could be the elevation of backup quarterback Vad Lee to the starting spot. Coach Paul Johnson has been insistent in his defense of Tevin Washington, saying that he isn’t the problem, but removed him from Saturday’s 41-17 loss to BYU late in the third quarter after a costly interception.
“I intended to let (Lee) play some and I kept thinking that we would try to get some rhythm or whatever, and it just became apparent that it wasn’t working the other way, so we needed to put him in and let him play,” Johnson said.
It ran against Johnson’s past philosophy regarding Lee. In other losses when Tech has been behind or caught in a shootout, Johnson has stayed with Washington, feeling that he gave the Yellow Jackets the best chance to win. He has deflected calls for Lee to play more by noting that the most popular player on the team is often the backup quarterback and that Lee hadn’t been practicing well enough to merit playing time.
However, asked about a possible change for Saturday’s game at Maryland, Johnson said “we’ll see.” Tech is now 3-5, the first time it has been under .500 after eight games since 1994, the final year of coach Bill Lewis’ failed tenure.
“I’ve just been trying to go out in practice every day, just playing my game, just staying focused on the task at hand, just staying inside my role,” Lee said. “I try to lift everyone up in practice and the game.”
Lee did seem to give the Jackets a jolt of energy Saturday, leading the Tech offense to its only score of the game, a 70-yard drive that was aided by 37 yards of BYU penalties and ended with a field goal.
Center Jay Finch said that Lee “preaches good energy.”
After the field goal, Lee led two final drives with the game out of reach. Tech went 3-and-out and then punted after gaining one first down. Saturday, Tech’s problems clearly stretched far beyond Washington.
“I’ve got to get a lot better as well,” Lee said. “Nothing’s going to be handed to me, as we already know. I’m just working and, now after that tough loss, I’ve got to work times two.”
Washington has started every game at quarterback since replacing the injured Joshua Nesbitt midway through the Virginia Tech game in Nov. 2010,, a streak of 25 games. A fifth-year senior and a team captain, he has largely played effectively this season – Tech entered the game third in the country in rushing offense and 15th in total offense – but has made errors at critical junctures of games.
Asked last week how he could improve, Johnson said that Washington “hasn’t had a ton of errors, they’ve just come at inopportune times, and we really need to cut down on that for a guy that’s played as much as he has.”
Tech’s next opponent doesn’t look particularly receptive for either quarterback or an offense that failed to make a first down on 10 third downs Saturday, the first time the Jackets went without a third-down conversion in a game since a 33-0 loss to North Carolina in 1980.
Maryland may be down to its fourth-string quarterback and lost Saturday to the same Boston College team that the Jackets trounced Oct. 20, but the Terrapins play defense as stingily as the Cougars.
Under first-year defensive coordinator Brian Stewart, Maryland is ranked No. 4 in rushing defense, No. 7 in total defense and No. 28 in scoring defense. The defense’s centerpiece is defensive end Joe Vellano, who recorded 20 tackles in Tech’s 21-16 win in 2011 and this season is averaging 1.8 tackles for loss per game, tied for ninth in the country.
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Ice eater 1969
October 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
No decesion for me. vadI decision it’s vad and 7 man line and press man to man coverage. We have done the opposite for the whole year. Not doing this would demonstrate insanity and void the coaches contract
DoakBoyGT
October 28th, 2012
6:05 pm
Here’s to winning out! Go Jackets! To HELL With Georgia!
usjacket
October 28th, 2012
6:15 pm
Yo coach, did ya happen to notice that our UNIFORMS SUCK TOO!
George Stein
October 28th, 2012
6:20 pm
I think the fools who booed Tevin yesterday should be ashamed of themselves. He has been scapegoated as the reason for the failures of this team. He played poorly yesterday but isn’t the reason for five losses this season.
Unfortunately, I think the time has come to play Vad and see whether his potential can turn into performance.
As for Johnson, I think he’ll get next season, but he’ll begin it under immense pressure. Failure again next season probably means he and Radakovich will be looking for new jobs.
Paul in Nh
October 28th, 2012
6:25 pm
Start whoever gives GT the best chance to win.
CPJ has the rest of this season and next to turn it around otherwise he is gone.
Gordon
October 28th, 2012
6:30 pm
You people talking about CPJ being gone have no idea what you are talking about. He gets 8 figures at the end of NEXT year. Tech can’t come close to paying that.
Old Gold Britches
October 28th, 2012
6:51 pm
Washington is a great young man giving his best. You don’t boo him. I agree Lee needed a chance yesterday and should be given a chance next week.
Greg
October 28th, 2012
6:52 pm
3-5 on the way to 3-9. Paul Johnson is a genius. He beat Georgia once upon a time so he must be.
If do right, no can defense
October 28th, 2012
6:55 pm
What about Synjyn Days? I know he’s taking reps at A-back in practice, but he is a decent runner, and in my opinion, runs the triple option better than Vad Lee. If you consider technical acuity, Washington is the best with the option… but being a QB is more than that. Being a starting QB means making solid decisions overall, showing great leadership, making clutch plays, and giving your team a chance at a comeback.
For the rest of the season I want to see Synjyn and Vad Lee both get reps… and people here on the blogs are seriously underestimating him. Last year he had some fumbles yes, but I believe he’s sorted them out, and if Lee gets some playing time, Days should too.
AtWork
October 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
@ George Stein
TW got booed because he couldn’t throw the football 5 yards. I don’t have a problem booing very poor throws. I was more ashamed at the Vad Lee chants. The boos are going to come if you can’t throw a 5 yard pass and then a short out that gets intercepted. The Boos were deserved.
Boos should go all aroud for this team.
This team better get better quickly or the season’s end can’t get here fast enough. They need to take the boos and use it for fire to get better. Because losing isn’t firing these guys up…maybe the boos will.
Go Jackets!
Reformed Toady
October 28th, 2012
6:59 pm
Hey Ken, you got a very ugly “personality” on the UPDATE story. You’ve banned people before for language nowhere near as bad.
BravesFan77
October 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
Might as well give Vad 4 extra games to prep for next season. What can it hurt now? We’re going to lose to Georgia anyway because the players don’t have the marbles to do so. That’s right, I said it boys. You don’t have the guts or the spine to play hard for 60 minutes. How ya like that, Jack?!?!?!
George Stein
October 28th, 2012
7:08 pm
You and I probably have a fundamental disagreement over booing then, AtWork. Under no circumstances do I think a group of unpaid college players should be booed.
Ironically enough, I bet the folks who do boo the players are the same ones who don’t show up consistently and then turn around and gripe about the recruiting.
MORGANTECH
October 28th, 2012
7:11 pm
So many problems with this team, if CPJ thinks the fan base is pissed off now , wait until the blowout in Athens.
Al Groh
October 28th, 2012
7:12 pm
Good things
yeller bug
October 28th, 2012
7:14 pm
Vad’s not going to do any better if CPJ wants to continue to run his TO. We keep hearing about bad reads—OK start calling plays that don’t require so many reads. Sheeeesh.
It’s not play one QB or the other—it’s play both to both their strengths. We’re behind 3 scores and Vad is under center. Why? The pistol is a better formation from which to pass. Do we only have 25 plays in our playbook? The BYU coach was saying all week he was looking forward to playing the TO and we gave it to him. Why didn’t we put in some wrinkles for him to consider?
If CPJ cannot evaluate his personnel and then develop a game plan that plays to their strengths, then we have no chance of having a good team this year or any year.
As for the D—we couldn’t even stop the run, much less the pass. If we can’t get to the passer, then they’re going to be out on the field a long long time. Have to get two road wins at least. The 15 year bowl streak is in serious jeopardy now.
Delbert D.
October 28th, 2012
7:18 pm
Dan Radakovich has a chance to fix this: force Paul Johnson to hire an offensive coordinator, and it cannot one of his former pupils. Look at Matt Wells of Utah State. His option has many more options than Tech’s.
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
7:25 pm
Delbert, CPJ ain’t going to be forced to do anything. Ego too big.
Coach
October 28th, 2012
7:25 pm
Amen, don’t boo kids. Only one exception, and that is if a kid commits a deliberate personal foul.
CPJ will get it done for us. It makes NO sense to continually start over, hoping that in four or five years when the new coach gets “his” players and system in place,” everything will be ok. Hasn’t helped in the past at GT, and won’t in the future. Let the man do his job, and we’ll get back. This is a young team.
Coach
October 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
Or put another way, what am I doing as a fan to make a kid want to come to GT and play for the Jackets?
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
Coach…..sounds like you have had some experience around the game. Well put.
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
7:45 pm
Don’t boo the kids? Wtf. Are we sissies or what?
Tevin was embarrassing… Besides I think the crowd was booing CPJ for playing Tevin. Its cpj’s fault Tevin was in the position to get booed
AtWork
October 28th, 2012
7:45 pm
If you can cheer for players then you can boo the players. You can’t have it one way. I know these are Student-Athletes and they are laying it on the line for Georgia Tech and we all cheer when they do something great…why can’t we boo for something that everyone in the stadium knows is bad.
I don’t complain about who we recruit. I try and go to games as often as i can. I support these guys 100% but like my coworkers…you got to call them out when they are doing something wrong. Booing is the only way at the game to do that.
Go Jackets!
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
7:46 pm
Let the Age of Vad begin…
GssiT
October 28th, 2012
7:46 pm
i’LL ASK ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE COMMENTED HERE: WHAT DID TEVIN DO IN THE FIRST HALF THAT WARRANTED HIM TO START THE SECOND HALF?
Ice eater 1969
October 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
Coach , do u think a read react 3 man rush zone defense or a blitz happy defense makes kids want tp play at tech
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
AtWork…..you are a darn idiot.
I agree with G Stein and others...
October 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
…re: booing college kids – booing is for paid professionals, not college kids who really are trying their best.
As far as the TW v Vad aspect, l it may be time for Vad yet I did not see anything about him or his play yesterday that would suggest he is any better than TW – ion fact, he sucked just as bad as TW, and he had terrible throws, too. However, that is a coaching decision and is based upon with whom CPJ thinks he can win.
And, believe it or not, Tech is NOT out of the race to be the division champ – nobody in that division seems any better than anyone else, and though Dook has the better record right now, they are probably going to lose their last three games, leaving whoever wins with a very bad record but a birth in the championship game – and stranger things have happened with a bad team actually winning the title, which will only give the ACC bashers another thing to bash if a 7-6 team gets to play in the Orange Bowl…
I agree with G Stein and others...
October 28th, 2012
8:10 pm
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And, actually...
October 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
….that “costly interception”, though costly, was a pretty good play by their corner, at least from where I was sitting it looked like he made a reaching pick of the ball – but I have been wrong before…
And it was all my fault Tech lost – I am the one who said that Tech would score at least 37 points and that since BYU supposedly had a lousy offense that the game would not be close and an easy win for Tech – who woulda thunk that the offense would come up totally empty? My bad…
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
I agree…: welcome to the blogs, haven’t seen you around.
Vad had bad throws? Are you serious? What game were you watching? Just admit that Tevin is awful and you’ve been wrong all along about our qb situation
dcp
October 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
14 GT – every major college program has ups and downs,,,,and there were boos at the UGA/FL game, boos at the OU/ND game. Get over it – it happens. Washington is an average QB at best. He has heart – yay for that..Lee is the future, the team is going nowhere, and Washington had 25 games to prove himself. He has not played well, and yes most of the team, including all of the defenase have been bad.
Sav FAN
October 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
CPJ was a goner when he lost to VT
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
dcp…..boo the coaches. Recruits see this stuff idiot.
Bananajacket
October 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
One may have the “right” to boo, but I personally think it is classless. It is a game and they ARE trying. Don’t think most of you would like to hear YOUR kid booed. I know, I know—-it’s win at all costs. Is this what defines your life? Just my opinion.
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
Actually: welcome to the blogs, haven’t seen you around.
tevins interception was as boneheaded as any of his other mistakes… Looked at his receiver the entire time and then threw it when the defender clearly was in position to intercept. dumbest throw OT AT VT
And, actually...
October 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
…Vad tripped over his own feet on one occasion – not something TW has done…not saying Vad should not play, just that I saw NOTHING that would encourage me to think he is any better than the current QB…
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
If my kid made that many game killing mistakes, I’d boo him AND the coach that put him out there to embarrass himself weekly.
dcp
October 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
BYU has a stout defence – It would not have made that much difference yesterday who played QB, but I am sorry people think we are better with Washington. What do we gain by keeping him in there. He has no ability to pass the ball whatsoever. You cannot always run the ball.
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Actually: you clearly should watch the games on TV rather than going to the games; vad tripped on his o lineman s foot.happens all the time at all levels. Just remember, vad has never had a turnover…that is a step up from Tevin.
And if you couldn’t see that vad throws the ball infinitely better, I can’t help you.
ToeMeetsLeather
October 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
I am at a loss for understanding what CPJ is doing this year, so who knows what he will do at the QB position. We have numerous playmakers on the field at different times, like Bostic, Zennon, Days, Autry(until the injury), and all we can do with a fifth year senior are QB keepers and the B-back into the teeth of the defense. It is painfully obvious that Lee needs to take every snap from this point forward and the offense needs to be adjusted to fit his strengths, but who knows what we see in Maryland.
dcp
October 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
14 GT – thanks for the great comeback – idiot is your best response? Is that what you have for anyone that disagrees with you? Folks were booing the coach – if you were there you would have known that. People are tired of every time we have 3rd and more than 5 we cannot pass worth anything.
dcp
October 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
GT Joe – good call.
Paul in Nh
October 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
“If you can cheer for the players then you can boo the players”
AtWork must be fun to be around at little league games.
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
Maybe we shouldn’t boo the opposingteam either. They have feelings too… Lol
Techster
October 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Tech has no problems that the addition of a couple of Top-10 recruiting classes couldn’t fix. Heck, I would be happy, if we could compete with Vanderbilt for recruits. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would ever say that…
Jacket time
October 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
Not a fan of the booing but if you’re older than 22 and not a student anymore… GROW UP!
I supported TW till now. Jumping ship lets see what Vad can do as a starter.
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:32 pm
By the way, these kids are 18+. We have kids that age getting killed in war. And we are complaining about booing?
And these kids DO get paid. About 30 to 40k per year (tuition, room and board). Hell, I’ll go so far as to say they work for us, our taxes pay their scholarships right? We have the right to boo.
Stinger 1
October 28th, 2012
8:32 pm
@8:08: Do you really believe Duke will lose to GT. The have arguablly
the best passing QB in the ACC. Do you think the GT defense can stop him? Also, did you see how many points NC put on NC State yesterday? Sorry, I see GT beating only MD and that is with a big maybe. Be realistic, this is not a good team and has no chance of winning the Costal division..
Jacket time
October 28th, 2012
8:35 pm
Its pretty immature and poor class to boo. I give exception to the students and I can’t say I would ever boo a veteran.
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
NAME THIEF ALERT!!! There are 5 posts prior to this under my blog handle that are the PHONY NAME THIEF!!!!
vampire bill
October 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
Perfect football weekend, bugs get smashed (again) Dawgs, Falcons win. LOVE IT
Stinger 1
October 28th, 2012
8:40 pm
GT Joe: Do our taxes pay for athletic scholarships? I thought taxes pay for only academic scholarships or partial ones such as HOPE.
K
October 28th, 2012
8:41 pm
Think about this: Johnson and Chizik both earn more than Saban per game won.
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:41 pm
Stinger: it is a state school…money is coming from somewhere…
GT25
October 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
I don’t boo our guys, but who am I to say that others can’t. I want Lee to start the remainder of the season just for development purposes. TW is better right now, but hopefully with experience Lee can be pretty good. Lee has a stronger arm but is not any more accurate with his throws. Maybe the boys can get a few breaks, the D will show up and tackle somebody, and we can extend the bowl streak. That really means something I think. Go JACKETS. THWG
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
8:49 pm
Lee is not any more accurate? Lol, just look at Tevins last two passes (of his career) and every throw vad made in the game. Its painfully obvious, unless you just don’t want to see.
stanh
October 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
lets face it…As long as CPJ is here we will never be anything but a joke….he cant recruit and thats where college football games are won….what pro prospect would ever want to come to tech?…..you can say what you want to but as long as we recruit like we are doing nothing will change….and my goodness our defense is not only horrible but more like shameful….way to go CPJ good job….
George Stein
October 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
No one is saying you can’t boo; I am saying you shouldn’t boo. This should not be complicated.
GT25
October 28th, 2012
9:00 pm
I wish that Lee was more accurate. It is very clear that he is more talented, I’m just saying that his passes aren’t on the money either. Granted, he can get the ball to the receiver without one-hopping it.
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
Well George,I think you SHOULD boo, to voice displeasure. Voicing displeasure is how changes get made. what else should one do, write a letter to the school?
What a joke this debate is…I wonder if this would be A Problem at any real football school…like an sec school.
George Stein
October 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
I’m sorry, did you say something, Joe? Can’t hear you.
J'boroJacket
October 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
I saw TW make some bad plays, but I also don’t understand why we run deep patterns all the time, that require more time to develop instead of the short passes that seem to eat our lunch all the time. Some of these 3 yard passes-inside the hash marks end up going 15-20 yards on us every time. I also don’t understand that our OL that was supposed to be a strength-along with the new strength coach, gets dominated. I know our 3 DL can’t handle 5 to 6 OL as they usually are getting pushed back 3-5 yards and allow their running back to gain long runs… Don’t give the other teams receivers a free headstart off the line… bump them at the line and cause timing disruptions and also would allow our CBs and safeties to know who exactly they need to cover…. I don’t think its that darn complicated. I think our guys are capable, just need to put them in position to have a chance.
Jacket time
October 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
A classy SEC school like georgia would boo.
Anyway I think many are understating Vad’s legs. After seeing him burn 2 defenders in the BC game, I more interested in seeing what he can do on the ground.
Jacket time
October 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Wow. I think someone is using 1 4 GT’s name.
mojacket
October 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Sigh. The booing was bad. I think we should be more concerned about the direction of this program to be honest. I’ve not missed a game in 15 years. And yeah, I am going to complain about the recruiting. We don’t have enough. Yeah, the first 22 can keep up with most teams. The problem is that the first 22 can’t play the whole game. And to be honest, some of those in the first 22 wouldn’t see the field at other schools.
We. Need. Players.
Delbert D.
October 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
1 4, tmi man, tmi.
AtWork
October 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
@Paul
Come on man. If someone would ever boo at a little league game they should be ashamed of themselves. The boo’s were just as much directed at the coaching staff as it was the execution of the plays. What should we do when we have terrible plays happen like those of this past saturday?
Clyde
October 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Well, we can’t do anything about it but I was sitting in the stands wondering why we were running it up the middle over and over again. Was BYU’s defense just that good? Seems like they were, we can just pull up the stats and see that CPJ’s game plan was terrible. Maybe he needs to break and finally get a clipboard so he can check off the plays that don’t work because he seems to be forgetting.
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
I made a post @ 8:36 & now this one. My only 2 for the night!! THE OTHERS ARE BY THE PHONY NAME THIEF!!!! KEN SAID HE BANNED HIM COUPLE OF DAYS AGO!! I GUESS THIS IS A DIFFERENT PHONY OR HE KNOWS HOW TO WORK BANNING OR SWITCHED TO ANOTHER COMPUTER=DIFFERENT IP ADDRESS!!
Clyde
October 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
We can tell who you are 1 4 GT, don’t worry.
admiral
October 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
I don’t understand how this is even a “decision.” Is there something left to lose if Lee starts and sucks?
George Stein
October 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
They weren’t directed at the coaches; they were directed at Tevin. They occurred after the interception and after a few incomplete passes. Then people cheered for Vad – for whom I have a lot of hope but, to date, has accomplished nothing – like he was a conquering hero.
Also, you don’t use an apostrophe to make the plural of boo, AtWork.
And, actually...
October 28th, 2012
10:02 pm
…not one cent of tax money goes to football, basketball, baseball, or any other “athletic” scholarship – that is what the Tharpe Fund and Tech Fund are for – and, HOPE money is NOT tax money…
You do to use an apostrophe, G Stein...
October 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
…when Boo got shot, Boo’s mother cried…
You do to use an apostrophe, G Stein...
October 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
…LOL , G Stein, just yanking your chain…
Old Gold
October 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
Tech will not win another game this season!
Yes, they will...
October 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
…Old Gold, but which one I cannot tell you – probably the UGA game, which will save CPJ’s job, causing us to have these same discussions next year after Vad messes up as we call for Justin to play more…
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
Isn’t Dennis Andrews still at Tech. He may beat ‘em all out & be the starting QB next year. Who know?? Only the “shadow” knows.
no fan
October 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
superidiot disappeared after his 11-1 season prediction. hahahaha
Clyde
October 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
Whoever the QB is, I hope they know how to stand in the pocket on a passing play and let the routes develop and just throw the ball away if need be. I know the O line needs to hold their own but it seems like TW and VL are looking for running lanes way too early.
Tech93
October 28th, 2012
10:46 pm
Unfortunately, GT football will struggle for the next couple of years. No defense and no future recruits to fill the defensive voids, especially on the D-line. An offense that is hit and miss, with no passing game. You have to have a passing game to contend in D-1. Also, not going to be able to recruit top recruits into this offense. It is a shame that the program got to this point. Dan Radovich is part to blame for this.
fuzzybee78
October 28th, 2012
11:01 pm
NEVER EVER BOO A COLLEGE PLAYER!
KIDS TRY HARD AND SOMETIMES DO DUMB STUFF—
DOESNT MATTER— NEVER BOO A COLLEGE PLAYER.
PROS ARE PAID AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE –GROWN MEN– NOT KIDS IN COLLEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fuzzybee78
October 28th, 2012
11:03 pm
TW WAS BOOED AND IT WAS SHAMEFUL OF MY GT BROTHERS–
SHOW SOME CLASS!!!
BUZZ50
October 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
I will say it again Tech fans, name a top 20 team that plays the triple-option. Lets go back to the Tech traditional offense and send the option somewhere else
Ken Sugiura
October 28th, 2012
11:19 pm
Toady- thanks. taken care of, hopefully.
SlimG
October 28th, 2012
11:23 pm
Only difference from 4 years ago is we have no top players.
PE Major from Western Carolina is ready to fry some fish
October 28th, 2012
11:30 pm
come on guys….just wait to Coach Fish Fry gets his players in here…..give him another 5 years…..woo hoo……how about the perfect option….dive plays to the B-Back….pitches to the A-Backs….two forward passes a game…..It’s Sting Time!!! It’s Fun on the Flats………how much are tickets going for now?
...Take The Wheel
October 28th, 2012
11:33 pm
Yeah booing your own player is an all time low! I don’t even recall us booing BYU! If you want Vad then there’s nothing wrong in applauding him, although I personally didn’t see him do anything better. TW had a bad game, but booing your own is just ridiculous. And take no credit from BYU defense they were ready for everything we tried. And using Vad Saturday ddnt make a difference.
But I agree it’s time for someone else. I don’t know that it’s Vad but someone else because TW has taken enough punishment.
...Take The Wheel
October 28th, 2012
11:43 pm
Its just tacky and uncouth to boo your own players. These are kids not paid professionals!!!
And Joe even though they cheered for Lee, it wasn’t because he was any better! He couldn’t get it in even with 3 back to back penalties!
Supersize that order, mutt
October 29th, 2012
12:28 am
@ GT Joe…..Vad DID throw one bad pass yesterday, but regardless, I am on board with you now. Vad should start the remainder of the games. He SHOULD have started the 2nd half yesterday, and I was stunned that Johnson didn’t do that. But to keep Tevin in there after that first series in the second half was absurd.
RobinVa
October 29th, 2012
12:53 am
Enough already GI. We concede that you have a right to boo. You have a right to behave in all manner of classless ways. That is your right.
lxUn1c0
October 29th, 2012
2:22 am
Buzz50 – Oregon. They don’t run it out of the flexbone, but they run it, and pretty often.
GTPhenom
October 29th, 2012
2:45 am
Been calling for Vad Lee to start since the Miami game, when we lost any hope of any significant accomplishment this season. Now we have four games left and are still considering playing a guy who isn’t even that much better than the redshirt-FRESHMAN behind him. Tevin is a senior in this offense. For a guy whose been playing QB now for what, nine straight years, why the hell can’t you throw a ball semi-sorta accurately five yards down the damn field?!? Believe me, when I saw TW coming onto the field to start the second half, hell yeah I booed. I was booing for the first time ever CPJ’s decisions. I’ve stuck by all this time, but CPJ needs to just give up on whatever misplaced loyalty he’s given to Tevin. We get further and further behind the eight ball with every snap that Tevin is taking from Vad Lee. You want a shot at a decent year next year? Make sure we have a QB again that can right the ship.
qb
October 29th, 2012
5:52 am
I thoughr both QBs are terrible. CPJ needs a fish fry.
dry dirt road
October 29th, 2012
6:52 am
With Tech as bad as they are this year, many seats will be available at games to switch to if you don’t like your ticket seats. It’s true, Tech isn’t worth watching this year if you intend to see them win. They might beat Maryland, and probably will lose to Duke, NC and Georgia. Since they lost to MT, they have very good chance of losing to Maryland. Their to offense is no match for the teams who use the shotgun, which is all of them all the way down to hs level. Tech is in line to win only 3 games this year.
Frankensting
October 29th, 2012
6:54 am
Vad is not the savior. He will be better than Washington someday. Groh is vindicated, GT problems are not the coach. GT has lots of problems with its football program. Recruiting is number one, how to fix it is complicated. Some good ideas have been published here.
Old Dog
October 29th, 2012
7:01 am
To Hell with Tek, today,tomorrow and every other day!
dry dirt road
October 29th, 2012
7:03 am
Everybody tries to comment on the qb competition, but it won’t matter if Tech continues Favoring the to instead of the shotgun. When Tech ran it to the side on Saturday, BYU tackled them for losses b/c of their pursuit. Only a sucker AD or AA at Tech would believe in the to offense and PJ’s selling it to them, then display it and it can only beat the small teams(but not McNeese).
Georgia Cracker
October 29th, 2012
7:04 am
Is GT a Georgia school? Looks like some International school if you look at the students. why isn’t GT a Georgia school? Georgia supports it.
ngaterp
October 29th, 2012
7:50 am
MD just reported it lost it’s fourth QB for the year with an injury; Rowe tore his ACL in BC game. GT will now be facing a kid recruited to play LB; true freshman Shawn Petty.
tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket
October 29th, 2012
8:06 am
I am a fervent GT fan and have been for many years. This team, as a team, heartily deserve the boos they got Saturday. When I see a player and team laying down and not flying to the ball and trying to arm tackle, and making bonehead plays, I WILL BOO THEIR asses-just as I cheer my head off for great plays and even decent plays. that is what is wrong with this country today-nobody is responsible for their crappy decisions and lifestyle. You who cry don’t hurt their little feelings make me sick. Never forget, the coaches are not making tackles nor missing their assignments. The players on this years team have let their coaches down and the fans down who support them with their dollars and time and heart. this is a team who johnson said at the beginning of the year had the sky as a limit. After the loss with VT and Miami, they quit –plain and simple. they quit!!! No Mas!
Jmonty
October 29th, 2012
8:15 am
I give up…. This season is a wash. CPJ should put Vad in to get experience for next year. Maybe they can hire someone that knows what defense is in that time. CPJ needs to get his tail out from between his legs and realize that when things aren’t working you need to change them. It’s sad to look like you are always being out coached. But, that has been the case as of late. Nobody repects tech “D” and for good reason. The “D” sucks… It has got to be one of the worst in the nation. I see an end to GT’s bowl streak. Oh well… it was nice, while it lasted. But, hey…. that’s ok. CPJ would just lose that one too anyways.
Coach Gailey
October 29th, 2012
8:29 am
Bet y’all miss me and my recruits now!
Freddie Blassie
October 29th, 2012
8:46 am
For $40 to get in the place, I will boo any time I want to boo and I will yell “coward” any time I see a quarterback slide rather than take on a tackler.
Broom CE '82
October 29th, 2012
8:58 am
Tech fans are a pretty patient bunch, so when we get upset it is usually warranted. Our offense is a shadow of what it was two years ago. Tevin Washington does not have the talent or the instinct to run the option, and he certainly has no ability to throw the football when necessary. Other than that, he’s a pretty good quarterback.
Stalin's Ghost
October 29th, 2012
9:27 am
the problems with this team run much deeper than who starts at quarterback.
don’t bench the Senior in a pathetic attempt to deflect from the bigger truth
Johnson is in over his head.
Veteran Fan
October 29th, 2012
9:32 am
Obviously some of you do not remember one of our noblest traditions! We never boo the Yellow Jackets no matter what they do! I believe some of you were booing the coach’s decision to play Tevin and that should be the limit of it! The last couple of games with Gailey’s teams there were some boos and we reminded everyone that this isn’t uga where they do it on a regular basis when they have a bad series. We have a very young team and we got beat by a very good team Saturday. We all need to remember that before the season began we were all saying that next year would be our year because of our youth and the difficult September schedule would be difficult to survive! Well it bit us and we need to finish strong and support the team! These games are the ones that test who the true fans are and we must pass that test! Grant Field was rocking when we scored off the interception and the kickoff return and I believe that a majority of our fans are behind the team win or lose! I will renew my season tickets, because there is no place better than being in Grant Field on a beautiful fall afternoon in Atlanta and watching my Yellow Jackets play football! Some days are just better than others.
One down, one to go
October 29th, 2012
9:41 am
Groh’s gone and now we have one more to get rid of. Johnson is a poor recruiter and in this day and age of college football one needs to be an excellent recruiter when you have Auburn and Bama on the left. UGa, Clemson & SCe on the right, UT to the north and all three Florida schools in the south.
Johnson’s time has come and gone. It’s time to go out and pay money for a great coach if this institution is serious about competiting in football! If not, stay with Johnson even though it would be a shame with the tradition GT has in football.
james
October 29th, 2012
9:45 am
Tevin should not have been booed,Paul Johnson should have never been hired.
Freddie Blassie
October 29th, 2012
9:48 am
Booooooooo.
Brian
October 29th, 2012
10:22 am
I don’t believe PJ gets 8 figures at the end of next season. His contract is up at the end of 2015 so after next year there are only 2 years left on his contract which I think equates to about a 4.5m buyout. That’s still steep, but not 8 figures steep.
If we have a losing season next year and see a lot more UGA fans at the UGA game than Tech fans like we did in Gailey’s final season then that will be it for PJ. I’m guessing that DRad will have trouble a lot of trouble selling tickets next year and at the end of the day that is what matters.
DRad probably needs to go too, his decision to extend PJ’s contract after just one season and not wait to see what he could do with his own recruits showed very poor decision making skills and will cost Tech several million dollars.
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
10:27 am
Which pass of Vad’s was bad? The one where he was about to get sacked and threw it off his back foot while going down, near the goal line?
That’s hardly a bad pass. Refer to Tevin’s last two passes of his career if you want to see bad passes.
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
10:41 am
Regarding the scholarships and taxes: The Tharpe and Tech funds pay for some of the scholarships, but not all. ~25% to be exact:
http://development.gatech.edu/sites/default/files/pdfs/Athletics-Endowment-2010.pdf
The rest? funded by the school, which is funded by the state, which is funded by taxpayers.
Even for the Tharpe and Tech Funds, that money comes from alumni/donors. So if you ask me, these adults need to answer to the taxpayers, alumni, and donors.
ahsoisee
October 29th, 2012
10:54 am
Decision? What decision? Does anyone have a toddler at home that they can send to Tech to tell Paul Johnson the correct decision? Duh? No wonder Tech is in such a bad fix, PJ has lost the ability to make correct decisions.
Just A Comment
October 29th, 2012
10:57 am
You do not boo a wheelchair bound athlete for losing the 100 meter dash. Same with Tevin. He has limited skill set and works hard to maximize his productivity. That being said he has a weak arm and is very inaccurate on his passes. Needing to pass to come back why was he playing in the first place? The disdain belongs to a supposed Coach who places his players consistantly in positions and situations to fail because of his own hard headedness. Thin line between strong will and stupidly bull headed and we have a Coach over that line. 3-5 seems like an end to a 5th year senior career and time to see if others have potential. Sports is cruel and is about today not yesterday.
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
11:05 am
Yep, that’s what we need, a kinder, gentler sport!
No more booing!
And PLEASE don’t boo the refs! They are trying to do their jobs as well as possible, just like Tevin. And the refs have families too. What if your son was a ref and was booed? wouldn’t it hurt your heart? LOL.
What a joke.
Tech Man
October 29th, 2012
11:30 am
CPJ won’t hire an offensive coordinator, his ego is too big.
hedgepruner
October 29th, 2012
11:32 am
I agree its been a tough year but as one commenter mentioned we all knew that we were in a rebuilding year and the early frontloaded ACC matchups with VT & Miami could have & did go the wrong way which set the tone for the whole season, with that said I think CPJ will start Vad Lee in this weeks game against Maryland and also other inexperienced players for developing next years team.
No more Booing !
But on another note “next Season” we need to see “VAST” improvement over 2012 and if not then we need to seriously consider letting CPJ go , most of our faithful fan base can tolerate a few rebuilding seasons and a few losses to the mutts but seriously we should be able to recruit good enough players in the recruiting hot bed of the South to play at a higher level year after year .
And Rad can also be replaced as far as I am concerned ….THWG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO JACKETS & finish STRONG !!!!!!!!
Buzz2011
October 29th, 2012
12:55 pm
The Vad era has started! Soon the Dawgs will get a taste and they won’t like it!
He will not be a three interception passer such as what Dogs employ. Passing and
running and running and passing.. The ACC will love it…
Uh, GT Joe...
October 29th, 2012
12:57 pm
…thanks for the info on the Tharpe Fund and the associated tag – now, go learn what “endowed” scholarship means and you will see that your comment about taxpayers paying for “athletic” scholarships is just wrong…the Funds (Tharpe and Tech) are more than just “endowed” scholarship money – D’OH…
AMG
October 29th, 2012
1:02 pm
I was booing TW and CJ because it was soooooo apparent that TW is not only not getting it done, but that against decent Ds he panics and makes bad decisions. He is not as good of an athlete and his leadership is way, way worse than VL. VL looks confident and backs it up with his play. TW makes more “freshman” mistakes per game than VL has made all season long.
That being said, this game was not lost by TW, the offense was horrible and I think everyone knew the D would not “run faster”. We need to hire a better DC in the off season, someone young with a lot of passion and energy. Let VL develop this year, make next season hopeful. No reason not to give him 4 games to really be ready to lead this team.
Next year we have plenty of talent (we do this year as well) and the odds are with the right DC we could be very dangerous team. Lets focus on getting there now. We will beat Maryland and the others are great games to prepare our young team for next year.
AMG
October 29th, 2012
1:10 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1387457-georgia-tech-football-5-reasons-to-keep-paul-johnson/page/6
10 Million buy out . . .
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
Nameless: go grow some nuts and create a handle you blathering fool. Then we can talk. buh bye.
GT Joe
October 29th, 2012
1:37 pm
GT offense under Tevin this year:
#42 in offensive points per game.
Against the #76 schedule.
So much for the “we score enough points to win” argument, eh?
GTfan2012
October 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
It is definitely time to start Vad Lee. I wish we weren’t doing it on the road, but rather at home following a bye week against BC… but that opportunity is gone now. Tevin just hasn’t made the plays. We need a QB that can throw the ball on 3rd down when necessary. Vad made some major throws this season already in limited action.
Al Bundy
October 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
I can’t believe we are talking about booing and not booing. If you can’t handle booing from the fans you need to go play some sissy sport like Soccer or Figure Skating. Football is a man’s sport and real men can handle some boos!
GTfan2012
October 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
I want CPJ to keep his job. I believe he is a good coach, and I think our offensive system is good for GT in the current landscape of college football. However, I will caveat this by saying that I believe there is one person who I would hire as HC of GT tomorrow if he would come here, Ken Wisenhunt. I actually openly rooting for Arizona to tank the rest of this season and for Wisenhunt to get fired. I think it would be a rebuilding job, but I think Wisenhunt is well liked and could put together a great staff (George Godsey as OC?). Do I think this is likely to happen, No. Do I think the likelihood of this happening increases with the DRad departure, yes.
Tommy
October 29th, 2012
2:04 pm
Coach Paul Johnson will return for the 2013 season. Let’s hope he hires top notch defensive and offensive coordinators!
G.P. Burdell
October 29th, 2012
2:17 pm
I thought CPJ should have made Lee the starter after the Miami Game and for sure after the MTSU disaster. Why? not because Tevin is bad or Vad was better but because at that point the season was a wash and Washington won’t be here next year, Lee will. CPJ has said that Vad has more raw talent than Tevin and the only reason Tevin was starting was because of his experience, well here is your chance to give your undisputed starter for next year that experience he needs, otherwise we start off next year right where we left off.
Bobby Jones
October 29th, 2012
2:28 pm
CPJ not going anywhere, this year or next or the next. AA doesn’t have the $$$ to buy his contract,
GTCraig
October 29th, 2012
2:28 pm
I want to see all 3 QBs out there at the same time. Running 2 A-backs and a QB spot. Then they could play action everything..
Bobcat
October 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Tech Math—BYU = BYE + CPJ
Silly Mutts
October 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
Paul Johnson will be fired at the end of the season. Period. If Gt wants to have any fans in the stands then Paul Johnson will be fired. There will be a new AD who will hire the right coach for this program. Mark it down!
Silly Mutts
October 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
Oh and GT Joe……….VAD LEE SUCKS!!!!!! He couldn’t play anywhere in the country in D1 as a starter (except Maryland) get over it!
The Dulous, '70
October 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Look at it like this…..Tech is a second tier team in a second tier conference. Do you really think Tech could beat Kentucky, Vandy, or Ole Miss right now? Duke will be the final chapter to the CPJ era….never mind what will happen in Athens this year. I WILL NOT WATCH THE SLAUGHTER ANY MORE. SAD, SAD, SAD.
Uh silly mutts...
October 29th, 2012
3:13 pm
YOU suck! yo momma’s toes…
Looking hard for that bright spot.....
October 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
“Lee did seem to give the Jackets a jolt of energy Saturday, leading the Tech offense to its only score of the game, a 70-yard drive that was aided by 37 yards of BYU penalties and ended with a field goal.”
So in other words, that “jolt of energy” resulted in 33 yards of measurable offense which led to a field goal.
It’s that bad.
It really is.
treyisgeorgia
October 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
…3-5 and playing a Maryland team down to its 5th string QB who was recruited as a LB. Guys try and complete a Pass, you know throw the football in a forward fashion. That is something teams do now in 2012. Oh and another thing you really need to get rid of that high school offense before it sets you back any further. It’s costing you recruits left and right as Johnson has brought in nothing more than a glorified 1-AA team.
treyisgeorgia
October 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
…and another thing if you guys had the right coach you might actually be able to field a team and win on a consistent basis. Don’t give me the Academics crap cause Stanford is doing just fine and their requirements are just as tough if not tougher and they have no issues fielding a quality team. Did you realize that Stanford had I think 8-11 Georgians on their roster this year that could have been recruited to Tech. GET A COACH THAT DOESN’T PLAY A GIMMICK OFFENSE AND YOU MIGHT AMOUNT TO SOMETHING.
GTFan
October 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
Are we seriously complaining about TW getting booed? HE SUCKED, AND HALF THE PLAYS SUCKED!!! I pay lots of money for my season tickets, and I am tired of seeing garbage with my team. TW deserved every boo he got. Get over it!!!! He sucks, and he knows it. The only reason he is still QB is because it’s his last season. If we want to win our last 3 ACC conference games we need Vad Lee.
GTFan
October 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
Silly Mutts
October 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
Oh and GT Joe……….VAD LEE SUCKS!!!!!! He couldn’t play anywhere in the country in D1 as a starter (except Maryland) get over it!
You must be smoking? Vad Lee is awesome!!!
fuzzybee
October 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
Tevin makes some terrible decisions, both to pass or to keep. Rarely does he make a bad decision to toss. That said, the offense has not been working well for several games. The opposing teams are penetrating and pursuing which blows up the plays. Tevin has to either dive or toss to a covered back. He is under duress so the 3rd option (pass) is never considered. I don’t think any quarterback is going to be successful until we can run the ball successfully again.
Bad Dawg, Bad Dawg
October 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
OK this is to both Obama supporters and Tech faithful. Be careful of moving lips, the numbers don’t lie. 8 games into a season with a 5th year QB and supposedly the “best offensive line I’ve seen in a long time”, or something close. Your offense didn’t produce any points against an unranked BYU. You were smashed by Middle Big Orange and are 1-4 against VT and Miami and soon to be 1-4 against UGA AND 0-4 in bowl games under the mystery of the triple option wizardary. Will be even an underdog to Duke this year. Oh….last time I looked “HOPE” produced GDP of 2% yet it’s all about the “FUTURE”. Bench Washington, this is not Upward.
Beat UGA
October 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
Lets drop football, spend the money on the robotics club!
TechApp fan
October 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
Johnson keeps talking about poor reads. So unless he makes a decision to minimize the need for the QB to make so many quick “reads”, does it matter who is QB? One is slow and makes (according to bloggers) poor decisions. The other is not slow and can throw a “pretty”pass (does pretty count?) but if he must run the option (even though his has little experience), will Tech be any better? This blogger hopes Johnson does not make Lee look like a poor “reader” by making him often attempt to do something he seems to not have mastered.
So What
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
This is going to take a long time to straighten out unless we hire a genius who puts everything back together fast. I think it will take several years to get straightened out. It could take 6/8 years.
Silly Mutts
October 29th, 2012
6:12 pm
Fire PAUL JOHNSON!!!! or become the doormats of the ACC (already there?). UGA and Mark Richt are laughing!!!! laughing and laughing!!!!
unch
October 29th, 2012
6:43 pm
Rumors from the ‘boro–Johnson to come back and take Ga Southern’s AD job. In that case, some of the good option players would transfer to Ga Southern.
Reformed Toady
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
CMR is laughing? He should stop and focus on Ole Miss. OR maybe not, it’s up to him. The dogs should just take the week off. That’s the ticket! Go swimming or something. You guys have it in the bag after “dominating” the Gators. You guys deserve it.
north fulton truthsayer
October 30th, 2012
12:34 pm
Too bad Tim Byerly isn’t eligible this season
CJ
October 30th, 2012
2:12 pm
I agree with dcp that our inability to complete a pass on 3rd or 4th and 5 to go is our Achilles Heel. The offense is designed with two A-backs at the corners who would make perfect short range pass receivers. All we need is someone to complete that pass.
...Take The Wheel
October 30th, 2012
4:37 pm
In a weird kinda way, I’ll be glad to see Vad start (if there is a game on Saturday). Not that I think he’s better than TW right now – cause I dont.
Of course Vad will look like a hero playing against MD’s 5th string QB…. well he should. Plus he will be super excited so have energy abound. But if we dont win by at least 3 scores, this is a fail to me and all you Vad crusaders can have a seat, right?
Thats a smart move by PJ. 1) Give the angry mob what they want. 2) Best case, you build some anticipation for next year, 3) Give Vad a chance to make himself look good against a 5th string QB and look like a hero if he pulls off a win.
No need to be conservative now! With a new AD coming in, you might as well go balls out right!
icons pack
November 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
It agree, it is an amusing phrase