Johnson: ‘We’ll see’ on starting QB for Maryland
Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson was non-committal whether Tevin Washington would remain as starting quarterback after Tech’s offense approached or reached new lows for ineffectiveness in a 41-17 loss to BYU on Saturday at Bobby Dodd Stadium.
Tech’s offense was limited to 157 yards and scored its only points on a drive after Washington was pulled amid a cascade of boos. The Yellow Jackets were 0-of-10 on third downs and outrushed by almost 70 yards. Washington finished 1-of-5 passing with an interception and rushed for 10 yards on five carries.
“We’ll see; we’ll look into it and see where we are at,” Johnson said of changing quarterbacks. Washington’s backup is Vad Lee, who led the Jackets to a field goal, the only points scored by the offense. Even that drive was aided by penalties against the Cougars.
The Jackets, who had averaged 37.7 points and almost 500 yards per game, could do little right. The Cougars’ defensive line dominated the Jackets’ offensive line, which played without injured tackle Will Jackson.
As a result, the Jackets were held without a rushing touchdown for the first time since losing to Miami in 2010. It was the first time since the loss to LSU in the 2008 Chick-fil-A Bowl that Tech didn’t score a touchdown on offense.
“They were filling the holes and were very aggressive,” A-back Orwin Smith said of the Cougars. “When Tevin would get the ball, they were there. When we would get to the outside, they were there.”
Johnson said the offense could never get into a rhythm in the first half. When they did, someone would miss a read or commit a penalty to stop any momentum. Because of the issues converting third downs, Tech had only nine drives and ran only 47 plays, 13 fewer than their previous low this season.
“Just self-inflicted would be the title of this game,” center Jay Finch said.
The Cougars came to town with one of the nation’s better defenses, limiting opponents to 276.9 yards and 14 points per game.
Johnson pulled Washington after his poor throw was intercepted and eventually turned into a touchdown. The score gave the Cougars a 31-14 lead with 3:43 left in the third quarter. The Yellow Jackets were 0-for-7 on third downs to that point and had less than 100 yards in offense.
As the offense’s struggles deepened, Lee said he began trying to score on every play, not every drive.
“We knew that coming in, that what they didn’t do was they didn’t give up any cheap plays,” Johnson said. “They make you earn it, and we weren’t good enough to earn it.”
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Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:14 pm
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Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:15 pm
Looks to me like CPJ is losing this team. I don’t think players react well to his demeanor – which is terrible on TV.
kissieo
October 27th, 2012
10:17 pm
CPJ should not be around to let anyone QB next week…
Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:17 pm
And nothing has changed on defense. The players mostly look like their feet are stuck in wet cement, playing “read & react” football. Orwin talked about BYU players being very aggressive… while our LB Nealy gives the RB a 10 yard cusion & he takes a shovel pass 40 yards for TD. This team looks poorly coached and our gameplans are very predictable.
Diablo69
October 27th, 2012
10:19 pm
Wow, 2.3 million dollars doesn’t buy what it used to. This is the worst team I have seen since the 1-11 Bill Lewis led bunch. I really thought Johnson was better than this, but his team is making him look bad. Real bad.
Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:20 pm
I watched ND coach Kelly give an intelligent, personable pre-game interview on TV tonight… anyone think that could happen with CPJ? Would you want your son going to play for a man who sounds like a pouty 4th-grader when giving interviews to the public?
Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:22 pm
Looks like Stephon Tuitt, er his mom, made the right decision! Sorry to say…
TechApp fan
October 27th, 2012
10:24 pm
Johnson keeps talking about poor reads. Does he have a QB that can “read”? Perhaps he could make that read requirment less a requirment.
re demeanor…do you think the parents of the players just cringe when their kid makes any mistake?
Johnson makes sure mistakes are called out quickly…and in public.
Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:25 pm
1. Run option/dive,
2. Run option/dive,
3. Line up under center and have a Div 3. caliber QB try to drop back, read the Defense & throw a duck – preferably not to a wide out.
Wash, rinse, repeat….
Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:28 pm
- TechApp,
Yeah, my sympathies got out to the parents of those Tech players. I have no problem with a kid getting an earful, but he is *ALWAYS* acting like that on the sideline and I think the players have opted-out. If he wants to dish it out, then he also needs to whoop it up when they do well – which he never does.
Todd
October 27th, 2012
10:34 pm
::: Placeholder comment ripping Cheap Shot Artist as I fear my previous comment will get censored :::
Next year
October 27th, 2012
10:39 pm
Justin Thomas! One player can change everything!
GIVE ME A BREAK
October 27th, 2012
10:45 pm
If Vad doesn’t start the Duke game I’m sure CPJ is going to hear it from the fans. The stadium will have few fans anyway. If Washington starts the seats could empty real fast. Are you listening, DRad?
collegeballfan
October 27th, 2012
10:45 pm
If the OL cannot block the defense no offense on the planet will work. Until they change the rules football is still a game of blocking and tackling. GT does not do either one very well.
The OL loses Uzzi to graduation. Everyone else is back. Everyone else who could not block BYU. There is some new blood available: O’Reilly will be eligible for one. Everyone will be biger and stronger. Will that help? Dunno.
GT Joe
October 27th, 2012
10:46 pm
Justin Thomas? 169 pound Justin Thomas? Lol
1 4 GT
October 27th, 2012
11:06 pm
GT Joe….please see my post tonight, October 27th @ 11:02 PM on Updated: Tech Drilled………..blog page 5.
1 4 GT
October 27th, 2012
11:28 pm
Defense today…..there were some good plays made. Barnes had what I am calling his best game to date. He had his name called twice over PA early in the game. He had 2 blockers most every play. He actually collapsed the pocket twice today=his 1st & 2nd times. The defense….in spite of a few good plays, they could not get a stop when it was needed. The defense….basically stunk. For the 4th time in 5 games, they gave up more that 40 points. They seemed to play a bit better last week. They are much like the drunk cowboy…1 step forward…2 steps back. Overall, no aggression, no focus, no fire, no determination, no leadership, no motivation, no whatever. But, painful as it is, GT is still my horse if they never win another race. I can’t just quit & walk away like so many of you apparently can. NOPE!! Can’t do it!!
82 GT grad
October 27th, 2012
11:39 pm
On top of an offense that can’t score and a defense that can’t tackle, GT has a hard time kicking a field goal or even getting off a punt. This may be one of the worst football teams I’ve seen in my 53 years.
North Avenue Rules
October 27th, 2012
11:49 pm
CPJ is lazy. He refuses to put in time to learn and teach a better offense. Instead, he takes the easy way out and uses the same old plays over and over. Pathetic.
somebody
October 27th, 2012
11:53 pm
I think tech fans will be happy once Vad gets a start!
ibidGT
October 28th, 2012
12:31 am
I think anyone that continues to defend CPJ and TW needs a brain check. TW might be more experienced but that doesn’t translate at all on the football field.
He is always a second to slow with his reads, most of his pitches to the outside the A back has to literally dive for the ball, he can’t throw, he gets caught from behind by 300lb D linemen, he has no awareness within a pocket and continually gets sacked from his blind spot. Props to the kid but he isn’t cut out to play in this level of competition.
Lee honestly can’t that far behind in reading and executing the TO. Even if he is, his pure athletic prowess will surpass TW’s experience and knowledge of running the TO by miles by itself. O and he can actually throw!
I don’t think I need to start on CPJ, anyone that thinks its a good idea to never pass against a team that is ranked in the top 10 in stopping the run… do I even need to finish?
billyBobjacket
October 28th, 2012
12:44 am
“Just self-inflicted would be the title of this game,” center Jay Finch said…. I don’t think it is possible to “self-inflict” that kind of @$$-whipping!
lxUn1c0
October 28th, 2012
12:52 am
Ken, was Tevin at the press conference? Isn’t it unusual that Vad was? To me, it seems very telling that your quoteboard post had Vad and no Tevin. Combine that with this post, and I see a coach ready to move on.
I just hope he and the players don’t give up on getting to a bowl game. I honestly think we can beat Maryland, UNC, and Duke.
ibidGT
October 28th, 2012
12:57 am
I’m ready to move on from CPJ, been ready for a while now. Anything done by CPJ is too little and waaaaaaaaaaaay late.
Silly Mutts
October 28th, 2012
1:02 am
@14 I am just plain pissed at being lied to as a fan! What the hell was that today? Every area of the game was incredibly bad! Where is the progress we were promised?
WnE
October 28th, 2012
4:28 am
re:
collegeballfan
October 27th, 2012
10:45 pm
If the OL cannot block the defense no offense on the planet will work. Until they change the rules football is still a game of blocking and tackling. GT does not do either one very well.
The OL loses Uzzi to graduation. Everyone else is back. Everyone else who could not block BYU. There is some new blood available: O’Reilly will be eligible for one. Everyone will be biger and stronger. Will that help? Dunno.
____________
O’reilly couldn’t sniff the depth chart for an Aubie team that is 1-7 this season and has imploded, do you really think he’s going to provide some relief next season?
We lose Uzzi, our best OL, we lose Orwin Smith our best A-back , we lose Cross, our best DL, and we lose a guy in the 2ndary that has made 30+ Career Starts (Sweeting), and the way that CPJ has Recruited, I’m not sure the young back-ups moving into playing roles next yr. will be better.
Also, whether or not you like TW, he has gotten better each yr. and does have a lot of game experience, so it is not a done deal that our QBs will be better.
Basically we’re looking at a 6-6 or 5-7 team next season even if Vad Lee is better than TW by a small amount, there is no guarantee that he is better than TW by a “large margin” that would guarantee that GT is a 9-3 type of team.
Due to CPJ’s crappy Recruiting we are a very flawed FB Program in many areas.
BBQ MAN
October 28th, 2012
4:56 am
Hate that many UGA fans are right about our program! Time for an overhaul AGAIN. sick of this
What is going on??
October 28th, 2012
5:24 am
Paul Johnson is a offensive genius. Unfortunately for the Tech Mites he is a offensive genius at the Jr. high level .
GT71
October 28th, 2012
6:07 am
The REAL question should be, ‘who is going to be the head coach against the Terps’. Many have said it for 4 years, but PJ isn’t a good HC. Granted, he has an offense that can, if applied about 2/3 of the time can gain yards and score points, but if ANYTHING goes wrong, his offense is in BIG trouble. Given he’s dealing with 19-22yr-olds, that doesn’t happen often enough. If we get behind, it’s over.
He can’t recruit top talent, he can’t recruit ANY talent in the special teams area and his idea of defnse is to run his offense.
In short, Techs’ little experiment in a weirdo offense/coach should come to an end..analogous to America’s little experiment with socialism which had better come to an end in 2 weeks. There are parallels here, but I’m not expecting Radical-vich to oust the guy. In fact, ‘D-Rad’ is part of the problem…football, basketball, baseball (even golf) have declined with him as AD.
Clean house!
GT71
October 28th, 2012
6:14 am
One more thing.
EMPTY SEATS.
For every game. For Home Coming! The location is awful and parking a nightmare unless you pay the extortion to park in Peter’s Park (what a bad pun that has turned out to be). We can’t change the parking/access problem too much, but putting an entertaining and SUCCESSFUL product on the field would be a step forward.
TVFan
October 28th, 2012
6:50 am
Tech has more problems than just quarterback. These are the players Johnson has recruited. I wonder if losing one of the offensive line coaches last year has hurt more than we thought it would. Johnson also brought in two guys from NAVY as coaches. Maybe the wrong guy was let go three weeks ago.
Carlos
October 28th, 2012
6:52 am
BYU was just better than us. Going forward, please replace first word with current opponent so I dont have to type anymore
papadawg
October 28th, 2012
7:01 am
Your beloved coach did great the first couple of seasons with the other guys players but now that he’s has his own recruits you see what happens.
tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket
October 28th, 2012
7:15 am
Everything Tech 14 said is right on target. As bad as I feel saying it, Tech’s players are just not 1. motivated nor man enough or mean enough nor good enough to beat a quality team. And make no mistake BYU is a top level team with losses that could all have been wins. They are as good as any team that Tech will play this year including the UGLY DAWGS. If Florida had a QB with any ability and nerve they would have won yesterday-his showing was even more pitiful than the Jackets two QB’s. Tevin plays as hard and as capably as he can, but just not enough–much too slow and no quickness. From what I have seen from Vad lee-I am not getting my hopes up that he is any better. The future looks bleak. We just don’t have the players and that is all you can say about it. While I am pulling for Tech all the way, I just don’t see them winning anymore games this year-maybe Duke and the terps. I have been on the Tech bandwagon for many years but they are fast becoming not so consequential in my life.
bob
October 28th, 2012
7:17 am
Times have changed. CPJ hasn’t. It’s a passing game now. CPJ is stuck in the past. Defense needs to be more aggressive. Current system is pathetic.
GThoschton
October 28th, 2012
7:20 am
Bottom line we got out butts kicked in every phase of the game by a team that is 5-4–our defense leaves a lot to be desired they are poor tacklers and are not very physical—and either a kids is or he isnt in that department—we missed a lot of blocks yesterday that is effort— we need better players not doubt and I have not heard squat on recruiting in a while—the qb issue —there are bigger issues involved than just replecing a qb this is not the pros this is college where a coach is trying to build/maintain a program—I am as disappointed as everyone else with CPJ—is it time for a change–no I dont think so—but the seat is a lot hotter and CPJ is not stupid he understands that—DRAD–is doing great things at Tech–we are improving our facilities so we can recruit better in all sports.
Thebeesnee's
October 28th, 2012
7:24 am
Everyone saying PJ should get fired needs to settle down. I understand being upset, but if we fire him we are really screwed. We have undersized linemen, two star receivers, no tight ends, and a terrible defense. We are in trouble if we try and switch up an offensive system right now.
tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket
October 28th, 2012
7:36 am
And frankly as far as continuiing the bowl streak, it would not bother me if they don’t go. I have been to every bowl game tech has been to in this current streak and frankly am sick and tired of seeing the lot of them either thinking they were/are too good to be playing in Shreveport or Boise , or would you believe San francisco-one of the most beautiful cities in the world-getting our asses handed to us by the likes of the AF Academy, Utah-twice, Fresno State twice etc. let these prima donnas sit home and watch teams who give it their all such as the AF Academy did in Shreveport a couple of years ago.
I always stay in the hotel that the team does and am amazed at the lack of camraderie on the teams. Getting on elevators, or in the lobbies, you never see any of them speaking or having a good time with t the other players. All walking around with ear pieces on or with family. They just don’t seem to be ready for the game to me.They all seem to be in some type funk or mysery. the dissension is palatable, believe me. Now it may well be that the coaches have lost these players, but that is no damn excuse for me. I put the onus on their pathetic efforts. they are laying down-maybe to influence the fans to keep harping about how bad a coach CPJ is. I believe he is a good coach but has a bunch of whiners and losers who actually believe they are better than they are. There cannot possibly be the level of difference in ability as we saw yesterday. Sad time for everybody.
Techman
October 28th, 2012
7:38 am
Thebeesnee’s – No time better than now because it will only get worse. As it stands now, CPJ has already set the program back 3-4 years in recruiting. That’s the problem with hiring a guy that is so one dimensional…
GT will NEVER get the players that UGA gets but as long as CPJ is coach, he won’t even get CLOSE.
GT79
October 28th, 2012
7:40 am
I am very disappointed in the season like all Tech fans and it does seem if some of the shine is off Coach Johnson after a very fast start here at GT, but I do think he deserves another year to right the ship and recruit some players. He has proved with talented players, his system can work and produce enough wins to to hang around here and win in Athens, but with the current players we have – he can’t and he has nobody to blame but himself for his recruiting. Hopefully, we will not throw in the towel and at least compete the rest of the year and regroup for next season. But if we have another year like this one in 2013, then I think we will be in the market for a new coach. I think back to all the problems UGa had when Dooley left going through Goff and Donnan in pretty short order and then Mark Richt came in and they have been fine for years now. We need the same quality of coach here and we will be fine as well. Coach Johnson may be that guy if he can get this turned around, but the fans won’t wait forever and the Athletic Director and Coach know that. Good luck the rest of the year and Go Jackets!
William Casey
October 28th, 2012
7:56 am
I will remain the loyal GT fan that I’ve been since 1960 just as I did during the awful 1980 and 1994 seasons. WnE’s analysis @4:28 is accurate for the immediate future. The problem with this team right now is “every little thing.” At the moment, there is no aspect of the game that could be called a “team strength.” BYU exposed the fact that our rushing offense is not as good as the statistics had indicated. BYU is a solid, good, well-coached team. No disgrace losing to them. It is disheartening to be whipped as soundly as the Jackets were.
While I agree with TVFan that “Tech has more problems than just quarterback,” it is obvious that GEORGIA TECH WILL NEVER BEAT A GOOD TEAM with Tevin Washington at QB. The team knows this as well. It’s difficult for a coach to “give up” on a great kid who has worked hard and mastered his job to the best of his ability. But, it’s time to start and play Vad Lee and find out if he has what it takes to be the next Joe Hamilton. Every down TW plays is a “wasted down” as far as the future of the program is concerned.
Bad in Every Way
October 28th, 2012
7:57 am
Literally one of the worst games I have ever seen. We were BAD in every facet of the game. We simply don’t have Div 1 players. Both the O and D line are terrible. The BYU running backs weren’t touched until they were 4 yards past the line. Our offense didn’t cross the 50 until the 1 and only drive by Vad Lee.
There is simply nothing good to say about the state of GT football. NOTHING!
Fair n Balanced
October 28th, 2012
8:00 am
This all sounds bad. Kinda sad really.
13 fans
October 28th, 2012
8:09 am
Tech is bad, everything is going the wrong way. Tech is in big trouble if they let CPJ go who will they get to coach this bunch of players that he’s brought in to the program. This team has no true QB that can play at a major college level. This is the worst I’ve seen Tech play in 30 years, those uniforms look
like something you would wear bowling. No pride in the way they play or the way they look. What is going on at Georgia Tech!!!
mountain_jim
October 28th, 2012
8:11 am
This GT alumn hopes this stinker on homecoming hastens Johnson’s departure.
I did not like him much even during his good years (with Chan’s recruits) but his system, recruiting woes, and his personality flaws have been exposed for all to see by now.
AtlantaDude
October 28th, 2012
8:13 am
I miss Chan Gailey. Seriously. He had some great teams that could play with anyone in the country. Sure he would lose to Duke now and then, but I’d take that in a heartbeat over this disaster of a program.
13 fans
October 28th, 2012
8:14 am
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Scrod
October 28th, 2012
8:39 am
Time to bench Johnson and get a real coach.
North Avenue Rules
October 28th, 2012
8:43 am
Question to everyone: What do you suppose would be the records of these teams if our entire team of players had signed with Oregon and Oregon’s entire team of players had signed with GT? Do you think CPJ would have the same level of success AND do you think Chip Kelly would be as successful?
My point is that CPJ has got to make some offensive strategic playbook changes to get up with the times. It’s not our players, it’s the playbook!
it is what it is
October 28th, 2012
8:52 am
doesn’t matter who gets the QB start, I hardly saw the GT offense on the field yesterday anyway and do not expect to see them on the field against Maryland either. Right now, they cannot beat Duke. In 2010, the only reason they did was because Mario Butler intercepted the ball and ran it back for a TD
it is what it is
October 28th, 2012
8:55 am
missing Chan is ignorant, do you not remember how Chan was trying to become the head coach of the Steelers and Dolphins after the Gator Bowl when GT lost to W VA? He wasn’t sticking around by choice.
doiknowu
October 28th, 2012
9:05 am
Does this mean that Tech fans are no longer “giddy” about their coach? Just a couple of seasons ago Mark Bradley and GT faithful proclaimed him the greatest coach ever.
GT in SC
October 28th, 2012
9:08 am
Sad day to be a Jacket. CPJ, it is time to go.
I would rather see a new coach and suffer next year, than keep CPJ and suffer next year with the same crap excuses he gives.The kids he still has have talent, but TO needs to go away. CPJ please take a buy out and travel back north or out west.
Ted M
October 28th, 2012
9:19 am
I really like the uniforms. Its the only good about GT football right now and likely for many years to come. Paul Johnson sucks and he can not be fired for at least 3 years.
Drad has buried the GT football program. He should be fired today.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
October 28th, 2012
9:22 am
How’s that special teams coach working out?
carolinajacket
October 28th, 2012
9:42 am
I watched the UGA/UF and Bama/MSU games and they were almost like different sport altogether. The defenses of all four teams were so aggressive and smashmouth and the hitting/tackling so vicious that it was amazing. Yet the offensive lines were also very impressive. Such a difference. It is life the difference between the Jackets’ players and these teams’ players is the same as the difference between the Jackets’ players and PC’s players. I’m afraid that we could run any offense that there is, and the results would be the same. The cupboard is truly bare.
So?
October 28th, 2012
9:44 am
I am better off than i was four years ago. Iwish i could say the same for GT.
Road Scholar
October 28th, 2012
9:48 am
I’ve been a season ticket holder for about 30 years, and after yesterday’s game, and this season is the first time I am considering not renewing my season tickets. All the comments about the team above are true.( I dropped my BBall season tickets 2 years ago when NO CHANGE was to be found in Hewitt and his results- Ground hog days!) In addition:
1. At a home game, have you ever tried to get an important score on either the main scoreboard or those on the west stands? North Texas State against Abilene? WHO CARES! Only once did I see a score on the Ga Fla game! Other ACC scores…nilch. Nationally ranked teams…do they exist?
2. When the scores , the ones that do not matter, are posted, they are posted one at a time for what seems eternity. This is GT. We learned to read many years ago. Roll the scores up there and repeat them over time. DUH!
3. The constant commercials…loud commercials during every time out ? I know you need to raise revenue but, if I want to see commercials, I can stay at home and watch the games on TV!!!! Oh and that Chevron commercial is really sad! Winning the hungriest fan contest…and you get a small pizza and a $20 gift card for “cardboard”. Get real!
4. Concession prices.Concession selection Enough said. Let people bring food to the game.
5. Bathrooms? Have not been remodeled for at least 30 years. So attractive. I mean they don’t have to be designer, but they are an embarrassment.
6. The loudness of the PA system. Are we trying to let North Georgia hear the game on the PA system?
Some will say my comments are off base and that the peripherals do not matter. But are we going to improve the game day experience? Including the team and coaching???
Road Scholar
October 28th, 2012
9:52 am
Oh, Ted M, the uniforms this year SUCK!
Finally, did you see the empty seats at Homecoming? The other games? The past two weeks even the student crowd was down…way down. What does that say when you lose the students?
steel eye
October 28th, 2012
9:54 am
As “Todd” said, Paul Johnson has lost this team. Not only that but he has lost the fan base as well. It’s just a matter of time before he’s gone. What then??
GT
October 28th, 2012
9:57 am
This was the first game this year we were beat like Egyptian slaves. It was like playing Alabama only these guys aren’t Alabama. They outsmarted and out executed us, with average athletes. 21, Williams, was only 17 years old, what happens when he becomes a man? We ran the wrong plays, couldn’t get plays into the huddle quick enough very confused. Our special teams are as bad as they were last year if not worse. We left point on the field.
uafuneman
October 28th, 2012
10:08 am
Glad to see that special teams coach paying off. For every good play they make 10 bad plays.
Ken Sugiura
October 28th, 2012
10:08 am
the players that speak at the post-game press conference are requested through the media relations.
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
10:11 am
I have not called for Tevin to be pulled yet. He has done well enough all season to keep his job UNTIL yesterday. I have to say it has to be VAD’s team now.
uafuneman
October 28th, 2012
10:11 am
Ok, everyone listen. Everyone look. Mark my word, as bad as this is right now, wait till February when these recruits jump ship. Tech will be forced to run out at the last minute and beg 7-8 kids to come play at Tech so they can get their 13-15 allotment filled.
Hedgewhacker
October 28th, 2012
10:15 am
Besides learning to tackle low and hard, the punting coach might want to consider moving the punter at least 12-15 yards off the line of scrimmage in punting situations – those additional 2-3 yards make such a difference in the ball being punted rather than blocked. The Jackets ought to try that sometime.
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
10:18 am
There is TALENT at TECH. When the New Class signs I have NO FEAR we will be BETTER.
I will not throw the players under the bus.
Have they played their best? Maybe but I doubt it.
Is it coaching?
Some YES and much NO. The LACK of tackling/wrapping up has hurt us on many plays.
At time the coaching didn’t have us in place to make a play but other time we were in position to make a play but filed to TACKLE and that is on the players.
This SEASON could be just what the players need. They are having to fight through PAIN and come together and fin a NEW LEVEL of dedication .
I do think it is VAD TIME.
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
10:20 am
The PUNTING FORMATION SUCKS.
They blocked 1 punt and a shot at blocking 2 more.
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
10:20 am
Tech will have a GREAT KICKER next year.
GT Pa
October 28th, 2012
10:22 am
The BYU game will save a lot of time reviewing tapes. Very little to learn from so many mistakes after eight games.
Special teams play has all but dried up since the ST coach moved over to help with defense. Put him back. Hard to believe there isn’t one kid in the intramural league who can’t be recruited to consistently kick a 25 yard field goal.
I know the saying is you don’t “rebuild” in college because you owe the seniors. But the seniors are letting the team down. Time to let the underclassmen prepare for next year.
And perhaps it is time for CPJ to build an offense around the talent he has, rather than try and make good players learn this offense. Love it at Navy and Air Force, but maybe, just maybe, their players are not only talented, but smart enough to make it work well.
Empty Seats
October 28th, 2012
10:23 am
“We’ll see.” – pj is so lost in the woods he doesn’t even know who will start.
Or he doesn’t want to tip off the opponent re: strategy. Funny.
D-rad, the head of the athletic department violated NCAA instructions to the tune of Scholarships and ACC title. No repercussions. Just arrogance. What other head of an organization can thumb his nose at regulators, damage the organization he is responsible for and keep his large salary with benefits? Enjoy Bureaucrat! On us. The Georgia taxpayer and GT alum whom you are embarrassing.
This coupled withe the fact the athletes do not relate, understand, and/or respect he coaches and Athletic Department head might be why they have quit. Doesn’t take a Psychology Degree to figure this out.
In the mean time just – wondering if pj punched someone, hung himself, or degraded a challenged person after the game? All these things motivate players and build respect, not.
These clowns do not represent Tech. Who the Hell is in charge of these pathetic bureaucrats?
Beat UGA
October 28th, 2012
10:52 am
Why are we paying this clown, imho, millions of dollars? It is more than time to give up the sport of football, reduce student fees, demolish the stadium and add another parking deck.
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
10:57 am
Beat UGA…………WHAT DO YOU PAY……
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
11:10 am
New BLOG RULE:
If you want to Complain and tell us how GT needs to change and you want a new coach you have to do a few things.
1.) Give you SEAT location for the Football, Baseball or Basketball games you have tickets for.
2.) Name the Coach that should replace the current coach.
3.) Give a Dollar amount you will PAY to buyout the current coach you want gone.
SEC 224 row 7 seat 3&4 DODD
Don’t want to replace JOHNSON
$0.00 right now.
strong finish
October 28th, 2012
11:18 am
Enter your comments here
Take The Wheel
October 28th, 2012
11:28 am
The problem here is not as much lack of talent as it is either physical fitness and/or mental disconnect. This is almost the same bunch that started 6-0 last season. They have enough talent to compete… at least better than they did yesterday. I dont think they are entirely healthy. I’ll just leave it at that…
The fans may have officially succeeded at breaking TW’s spirit. He may be done. I can only imagine being literally boo’d at your own homecoming game. Losing or not thats sacrilege. We’re talking about a young man who has sacrificed his body in good effort all year for the good of the team…
Be assured this mentally tanked everyone on the team maybe except Lee.
I say its time for Vad. Thats right – Im flipping positions! GT fans deserve it and its about time for Vad to be on the end of some of these losses. He may as well be introduced to life of a GT player.
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
11:35 am
Saw the comments about punts & punter lining up 12-15 yds back. For years now, at the college & pro level, it has been the norm (standard practice for the Athenians) for the punter to line up 15 yards from the LOS (ball). Yesterday, I guess I was watching with a more critical eye, I noticed we had 2 or 3 punts nearly blocked. Then BYU did block one & recovered the ball at our 9 yard line=TD in 1 or 2 plays. Next time we lined up for a punt, we had the ball at our 42 yard line (pretty sure about that) and I paid attention to where the punter lined up….12 yards back from the ball. What the HELL is up with that? COACHING?? Then the punt only went 28 yards! Punter was too worried about another block & rushed himself maybe? Has our new ST coach installed the change of being 3 yards closer to the guys trying to block the punt? Is this by design? The kid is a True Freshman, Ryan Rodwell….did he make a mistake & line up 12 yards back like he did in high school? IDK (I don’t know for the leg humpers). Whether by design or mistake, it’s COACHING!! And it isn’t working!!
Take The Wheel
October 28th, 2012
11:37 am
Fan reaction is definitely predictable. Fans want perfection yet continue to be the WORST FAN BASE ever. Even for a homecoming the whole campus was DEAD!! Stands had just as many BYU fans as Tech, and to top it off we boo’d our own player!
Isnt’ playing at home supposed to be an advantage?? I dont think it is for our players…
GTFan
October 28th, 2012
11:37 am
Johnson: ‘We’ll see’ on starting QB for Maryland
Are you freaking kidding me? NOBODY WANTS WASHINGTON!!!! Get it through your head. Did you not hear the cheers yesterday when Lee came in?
Empty Seats
October 28th, 2012
11:38 am
I hope a great kicker fixes things from the top. I feel sorry for the athletes and their dreams, I do not blame them.
New AD: Mark Price, John Sally, etc, someone with a vested interest in Tech an a Tech Management Degree. Out of all the athletes we have graduated for MGT school, I would be willing to bet there is a candidate with credentials and an interest in GT.
Then let them select and manage the coaches, etc. I think it would help the situation some. As if it would take much.
Who is in charge of the bureaucrats?
GT Joe
October 28th, 2012
11:39 am
Take the wheel: it takes a big woman to admit you were wrong about Tevin…but don’t blame the fans for his downfall…to me, its shocking this was the FIRST time he was booed.
Let the Age of Vad begin.
JoeFan
October 28th, 2012
11:40 am
As much as it seems a change in head coaches is warranted, don’t believe that will happen until season’s end. It will happen because DRad has no other choice but to find the money and send CPH packing otherwise he will selling tickets for 10 cents on the dollar just to get people in the seats in 2013.Tech footall is a mess and its time to start the house cleaning.
ramblingbuzz
October 28th, 2012
11:41 am
Don’t even care any more. This team is not even competetive against decent teams. Fortunately there are only 3 or 4 of those in the ACC.
North Ave Killer Beez
October 28th, 2012
11:42 am
Next season starts NOW!!! CPJ whom is obviously going to be our coach sad to say needs to swollow his pride and start studying Chip Kelly’s playbook…maybe keep running the pistol, try and see what suits Vad best. If this arrogant old fart still won’t make a change at qb and possibly his system to better suit what we do have on campus then I just don’t know what to do, maybe crawl into a dark hole until basketball season starts : (
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
11:42 am
Take the Wheel….fans shouldn’t boo huh??? Those of us who shell out hard earned money, attend the games, for the most part suffer (this season in particular) thru the teams ineptitude in relatively little booing, Have the $$$$ paid for right to express ourselves. That being said, I was rather taken about at the volume of the booing. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GTFan
October 28th, 2012
11:45 am
Who wants to come to games when the same crap keeps happening? Tevin Washington got boo’d because he sucks!!!! Time and time again he shows he is worthless. Also, the playing calling was awful so boo’s were thrown there too.
Arob
October 28th, 2012
11:46 am
Uoad,
Give it a rest. Not all tech grads can have season tickets. If you live two states away and have 3 kids running in different directions, you pretty much have to catch the action on tv or the Internet!
This is an opinion blog and everybody’s entitled to theirs. And mine is that this coach has been a failure. His system will never work at this level. And he can’t recruit or utilize his best talent effectively. The sooner he is gone the better.
joe schmoe
October 28th, 2012
11:49 am
Yea, I booed… so what? Am I supposed to give a nice golf clap every time the crap doesn’t work? Some of you guys are lifeless. I spend good hard money as a booster/season ticket holder, and expect results.
GT FAN FOREVER
October 28th, 2012
11:52 am
UGA fans always want to fire their football coach after every tough loss. GT fans should be better than that. Coach Paul Johnson has been successful as GT football coach until this season. We should stand behind our coach and our football program during these tough times and give them a chance to straighten things out. Firing Al Groh was a step in the right direction. It will take some time to fix the damage he did to our program. The future is bright. Vad Lee will start every game next season, and he will be the next Josh Nesbitt with regards to running the option but with better passing ability which will be a killer combination. We have been through tough times before and GT always figures it out. Remember, Bobby Ross had some tough seasons before he won national championship.
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
11:52 am
Arob…….you don’t have to go to the games.
IF you want change then PAY money for the change.
I gave a few rules for people to say why their opinion should matter.
If yo don’t go to the games
If you don’t pay money to get the coach out
If you don’t have a SOLUTION to the problem
then your crying is worthless and should fall on deaf ears.
We had a BYU fan drive from JAX to meet us at the tailgate and see BYU play.
Big Jim
October 28th, 2012
11:55 am
To all the Johnson cool aid drinkers starting day 1 of this disaster 5 yrs ago:
TOLD YOU SO!!!!!
Or
Do you get it now???
Or
This bumbling red neck will KILL our program for yrs to come!!
Or……
Please feel free to refer to ANY of my post or WnE’s over the past 5 yrs.
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
11:55 am
joe schmoe….. YOU didn’t give your seat location so why do we think you are telling the truth? We don’t have to use real names so HOW do we know what you say is the honest truth?
5150 UOAD
October 28th, 2012
11:58 am
Jc Lanier
about a minute ago ·
Praying for Marcus Lattimore and his family stay strong and keep the faith
God will get you through this
Yes the TECH players are BAD people…..
joe schmoe
October 28th, 2012
12:02 pm
5150 I see you on here all the time, as I am on here all the time, but I honestly dont give a damn whether or not you think I am or am not telling the truth…. Take it face value. I was there, like all the rest of the games for the years I have been a season ticket holder. I think people booed more at Johnson’s stubbornness to leave Tevin in producing = 0 results. Even Lee, our backup got 3 on the board. Jeeze, it really isnt hard.
Big Jim
October 28th, 2012
12:03 pm
GT fan forever…..God love ya bro! But you are just plain stupid….
I was there booing too, but NOT at TW, he is a great kid. He just is not a D1 starting QB. Which makes sense, his coach is simply NOT a D1 head coach, period.
This silly offense will never work at this level. I just don’t know why people like you can’t see that.
Actually, next year (do I sound like a UGA fan)...
October 28th, 2012
12:04 pm
…is when the O line SHOULD be great – everyone comes back except Uzzi –
And, while I think that Vad should be given a chance, just as he was given a chance yesterday, during which he FAILED miserably, except when aided by 45 yards in penalties against BYU ( and he still only produced 3 points), the worst QB in Tech history is still Reggie, who sealed his fate when he failed to remember how to count to 4 while playing against Tech’s biggest rival…
See above post, Joe Schmoe...
October 28th, 2012
12:07 pm
…about Vad’s abilities and how he got those “3″ points – TW led the team to 3 points, too, only the kicker missed the FG, and TW was not aided by 45 yards in penalties…but, having said that, it really may be time for a change at QB, at least until Vad or Justin proves they cannot lead, which, evidently, is WHY they do not play more – they cannot to CPJ’s satisfaction in practice so why chance their “leadership” in games…
billyho55
October 28th, 2012
12:12 pm
tired,
I’M TIRED OF FANS LIKE YOU WHO ONLY ROOT FOR TECH IF WE ARE HAVING A GOOD YEAR! IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO CONTINUE TO SHOW UNDYING LOYALTY TO THIS TEAM AND SCHOOL THEN BY ALL MEANS , HIT THE EFFING BRICKS! I AM TIRED OF THIS BS AS WELL BUT YOU WILL NEVER READ ANY STATEMENTS FROM MYSELF THAT INCLUDE GIVING UP ON “MY TEAM!” YOU CAN VERY EASILY BE REPLACED WITH SOMEONE WHO WILL BE LOYAL AND DEDICATED TO THE CAUSE! AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, BEAT IT PUNK, WE DON’T NEED YOU!
GT GRAD
October 28th, 2012
12:16 pm
Coach PJ and his offense are not the problem…….if I get a vote; I vote that we definitely keep Coach PJ. BYU is a VERY good team. GT is simply not playing well this season………Coach PJ will figure it out and right the ship.
QB is NOT the only glaring issue……..that said, I do think it is time to move on to Vad Lee. We need to get him more experience for next season and he probably gives us the best chance to win the remaining games this season. We also need to determine whether he is the “no-brainer” QB for next season or if we need to consider the speedy QB from Alabama (Justin Thomas I think????? his name escapes me right now).
Thanks Tevin……but it is time to move in the best interest of the GT football program.
joe schmoe
October 28th, 2012
12:17 pm
More evident of the failure of CPJ leadership abilities. His coaching is the product on the field. If the players are running around rouge, even more worrisome.
joe schmoe
October 28th, 2012
12:22 pm
I dont have a problem with the offense per se. I think it can be effective. What I have a problem with is it being the only option. Look at Air Force, yea they use the option, but they line up in the I, and various other forms. They aren’t one dimensional… CPJ just stuck on TO, and just now getting in barely the pistol after the ineffectiveness of the TO last few years.
BS Patrol
October 28th, 2012
12:39 pm
I saw a Tech back run up to the line,stop,cringe into the fetal position and wait to be hit. A sad state indeed.
Bill Curry disease. Apathy.
Coach Johnson
October 28th, 2012
12:47 pm
I’m over my head and you folks think I’m a genius! Ya’ll ain’t got the guts to hit me in the mouth!!
GTBluto
October 28th, 2012
12:48 pm
Anyone who thinks Vad is the answer to our problem is not watching. He fell down once tripping on his linemans feet. And throw a pass in the ground to a wide open receiver. Come on. The problem is CPJ and the lack of athletes to compete big time. Lets start Justin Thomas and then see if CPJ can cut the mustard the rest of this lousy year.
DanRad
October 28th, 2012
12:51 pm
Come on guys. You got to be kidding me. Why all the downcast faces. We got rid of Al Groh. Give us time. Our offense can’t be expected to carry this team every week. Besides we were playing grown min with our kids. And how bout our new sign in the North End Zone. And did you stop by McCamish Pavillion? How bout that place. It will be open again before the big Duke game. Stick with us and we will go places.
Buzzman
October 28th, 2012
12:51 pm
I have been a Tech fan and graduate for over 50 years and this game ranks among the worst I have seen them play. The attitude of the team is terrible along with the coach. When Bobby Dodd was coaching he got the team together, Since CPJ has been a coach, the attitude has gone downhill. I will not spend another dime on season tickets until we get our act together.
Bill from Dacusville
October 28th, 2012
1:25 pm
Fire Pitiful Paul before he “Lewis’ ” the program—(He already has,I’m afraid, a 50 cent start that way)-Dang, never thought I would miss the old days of mediocrity—Can’t even beat Muddle Tennessee, or Brigham young or old—But we by gad showed those Presbyterians a thing or two–
Rooty Tooty
October 28th, 2012
1:30 pm
BYU’s first drive would have ended with a punt if GT could tackle anybody. Honest to goodness, I don’t believe the GT defense could have tackled a midget football player yesterday. It was terrible. All I can say, it was a team effort….
WHISKEY CLEAR
October 28th, 2012
2:16 pm
We have more leaks than the Titanic to right this ship..
Tech Guy
October 28th, 2012
2:22 pm
The main problem at Tech is the Athletic Director. He gae PJ a contract after one season that will prevent firing him. He had just gone through a similar situation with Hewitt but repeated the same mistake. ADRad needs to go before Tech hires another coach.
unajacket
October 28th, 2012
2:35 pm
The sky is not falling, no matter what all of you overzealous alumni conjure up. This program will get its act together & be successful in spite of an extremely uneven playing field in recruiting. Concerning the disparities Tech endures, Johnson will be successful & we are fortunate to have him! Talent is not the problem either, look at Texas, Auburn & Arkansas & the star basis they have recruited. Give me a break, Tech will never win 10 games a year consistantly until the hill gives us some calculus & physics less majors + lots more exceptions.
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
3:10 pm
unajacket….why would you want to devalue your diploma like that? If you have one. I don’t. But I still like the fact that GT as a school (Institute) tries to (& in a large degree succeeds) do things in a manner that enhances the students life (athlete or not) after graduation or just moving on. Tech is hard for her students for a reason. Life is hard. No one gives you anything. You must earn your way in life. Yeah sure, some get away with taking shortcuts, but not many. As it stands now, a degree from Tech for a new grad is the best value for the $$ spent per student to earn said degree. A recent survey ranked schools based on that metric & Tech was #1 & Georgie was #4 (got to give them props for that). But, the new Tech grad compared to a new Georgie grad had a median starting salary $18,000 higher. I’m sorry, but I don’t recall where I saw that survey. I’ve slept since then. So again, why do you want to devalue your Tech degree? And everyone that has one to boot.
big daddy
October 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
Been a Tech fan all of my life and will continue to do so. I have seen good teams, mid to good and plain our sorry teams over the years. However, I am very disappointed in this years team. After the 6 and 0 start last year, a majical season could have happened, but no, they found a way to louse it up. Mostly the defense. When you can’t tackle and defend a pass you are in trouble. Thought this year would be better. But no, for the most part the defense has loused this season up also. Don’t know how to tackle, don’t know how to defend a pass. Look at all good defensive teams and they jam the line on the receiver, not Tech, we give them an 8 to 10 yard cushion, and still don’t know where the ball is until it is caught. The special teams literally suck. Now comes yesterday, and this offense can’t convert one third down play all day. This team is now demoralize, down on themselves, and in my opinion, has quite for the rest of the season. They will be going through the motions. You can’t say we don’t have the players that GA has, no we don’t. But you don’t give out scholarships unless these guys can play. And Tech has some very good athletes. Perhaps with a new defensive coach coming in next year, things will improve in that area. I love the TO, but until you start throwing the ball a lot more than Tech does, your running game is going to get stopped. If CPJ would stop being so bullheaded, as smart as he is, he should see that. As for the remaining 4 games left on schedule, we might win 1 and that being Maryland next week. At this point in time, Tech will not even be favored to beat Duke and I know we will be underdog against NC and the Dogs.
J
GTBluto
October 28th, 2012
3:23 pm
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GTBluto
October 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
Based on our recent academic ratings with our athletes, we don’t do very good there either.
Admiral Obvious
October 28th, 2012
3:54 pm
Paul Johnson is a football genius and infallible.
SlimG
October 28th, 2012
3:56 pm
Recruiting, scheme, and coaching are horrible. If you can beat Middle, something has to give. Drad has lost the alumni and local sports fans. He said this was a priority? Gimme a break….
BigTimeTECHFans
October 28th, 2012
4:26 pm
Tech is awesome, just played a bad game Saturday, we will beat Mayland, Duke still stomp UGA this year,
GT Fan
October 28th, 2012
4:29 pm
Maryland is down to their ONLY scholarship QB left. That’s right, they’ve lost THREE QBs to injury this season.
If Maryland puts up pts & yards vs. the Jackets then this D will have to go down as the worst D is 25+ years!
SlimG
October 28th, 2012
4:38 pm
Still think CPJ is a good coach? Not
RangerDawg
October 28th, 2012
4:51 pm
CPJ treats his players poorly. While I think Richt is too soft on his, at least he does not belittle and berate them in public on the sideline. And when CPJ sends a player in with a play, why does he have to shove the player onto the field? He is a bad deal Tech, and coming from a dawg fan, your players deserve better?
TexGT
October 28th, 2012
4:55 pm
CPJ is a joke, and awful representation of the school. The blimp treats his players like crap, acts like an arrogant jerk, and speaks like he has only a 5th grade level education. Send him back to the sticks.
Jacket Fan
October 28th, 2012
5:16 pm
4 – 8 at best in the fifth year of his reign. Sad. Glad we will not have to watch some wretched bowl effort. No need to think about going to Athens – they will need the style points by then and will massacre us.
Tech Man
October 28th, 2012
5:17 pm
Tevin Washington=Reggie Ball
Nah, Tevin can count...
October 28th, 2012
5:19 pm
…to four…
Genius Jacket
October 28th, 2012
5:22 pm
We need to fire Paul Johnson. This is the worst Tech team I’ve seen, and that’s saying something. Let’s bring in a coach who does not want to run the wishbone, and a coach who wants to have a decent defense.
Jacket time
October 28th, 2012
5:23 pm
Come on comparing reggie to washington is a little below the belt don’t think? Just plain low.
Jacket time
October 28th, 2012
5:25 pm
Based on the last game. We probly should put Vad in now but i think we are all waiting for next year. CPJ will get another yr or 2. Lets just pray things get better!!!!
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 28th, 2012
5:38 pm
If we’re lucky, Auburn’s putrid, desperate program will hire Johnson away at the end of the season. Then, Georgia Tech could hire O’Leary and Friedgen back for a 5-7 year encore before they both retire. There’s no telling where the Jackets would be now if they had both stayed.
"Highly respected" my arse...
October 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
…ain’t know way Tech talks to O’Liar, and ain’t no way Friedgen talks to Tech – besides, who wants 2 66 year old coaches after the debacle named Groh…
RWill
October 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
Some of the arguments on these boards are laughable. I’ve read numerous times on here that CPJ isn’t a good head coach… You ever check his record at Georgia Southern? Navy?
Lets talk recruiting. Read on here hundreds of times that he can’t recruit. Well, let’s just look at that, shall we? Here are Georgia Tech’s year-by-year recruiting since 2002 from Rivals.com:
2002: 63
2003: 50
2004: 79
2005: 62
2006: 57
2007: 18
2008: 49
2009: 49
2010: 43
2011: 41
2012: 56
It looks like recruiting has actually improved in the CPJ era.
For such an educated fan base, you guys are failing hard when it comes to logical arguments.
How about the argument that the triple option doesn’t work? Top five in rushing yards every year he’s been here isn’t working? He’s apparently taken a team with a QB that can’t throw, and is too slow, and still averaging over 450 yards a game this year. The offense works, with or without passing. Oh, and by the way, he has implemented pistol formations into it as well.
Also, he is stockpiling talent. Look at Boise State. Do they recruit the top talent? Answer: no. They redshirt almost every incoming freshman, and slow the turnover rate and gain an extra year with everybody though. This is the same as what CPJ has been doing. And, if you look at the recruiting rankings, he does recruit talented enough players, so this should work well as it continues. By doing this, to get a real judge of an entire CPJ recruited team, the next two years should be what we judge him on.
There are downsides to CPJ obviously. One is his demeanor on the sidelines. The way he yells at players may result in some of them tuning him out. At Georgia Southern, he probably had better players than most teams, and with all the winning, the yelling didn’t seem as bad. At Navy, they’re used to being yelled at by superiors. It’s part of the training. At a big-conference school, where you are woo-ing the players to come play for you-star high school athletes-then berate them weekly on tv, it might not be as well-received. Whether that’s all on him or also on the players as well, is up for debate.
The lack of defense during his tenure is concerning. Yes, it could be said that because of the offense they run, the defense doesn’t see much time in practice against conventional style offenses. However, considering the scout team mimicks that week’s team, this isn’t the biggest problem.
The choices in defensive coordinators is concerning as well, and perhaps his choices for assistants overall. The special teams coach hire is puzzling. To go get someone who was coaching in Canada, when there are plenty of qualified assistants that have ties to this area was a poor choice. Not so much because I don’t think the ST coordinator can’t coach (the ST unit hasn’t been very good though), but he has zero ties to the area for recruiting. That can’t help.
Basically, CPJ has warts, like all coaches not name Saban. He is an offensive mastermind, yesterday not included. Again though, even the best look bad occasionally. His offense does and has worked, with both his players and Gailey’s players. He definitely has the ability to outsmart the opposing coach more often than not. On the other hand, he can’t get a quality defense here (remember when George O’Leary had the same problem?), he is an abrasive person at times, maybe causing players to tune him out or quit, and he has gotten a little too conservative the last few years, as opposed to his first few here. All in all, he should be given more time to sort through the struggles. The talent is there, the offensive scheme is there, lets see what happens with a new defensive coordinator.
It really makes some of you “fans” seem less than educated with the arguments you put forth as to why CPJ should go. Being such a strong educational institution, to argue the pro’s and con’s of the football program should have a higher level of discourse and more well researched and backed in fact arguments than what is spewed here on a daily basis.
AZ GT Fan
October 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
can’t block, can’t tackle,…all signs lead to coaching. need a change
macrotech
October 28th, 2012
6:02 pm
Wow! I had to scroll back to the top to make certain I wasn’t on the mutt blogs!
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 28th, 2012
6:19 pm
@”Highly respected” my arse… – Paul Johnson is the one who brought Georgia Tech the “debacle named Groh” right after he brought them the other debacle named Wommack. Truth is, the debacle is really named “Johnson”. O’Leary OR Friedgen could coach circles around Johnson regardless of age. O’Leary is the only Tech coach to beat Georgia three years in a row since Bobby Dodd. And the problem with Groh wasn’t his age, it was that he isn’t a good coach. Why do you think that Virginia fired him?
You’re probably right that Tech won’t talk to O’Leary, though. They’ll probably just hire another mediocrity that can’t beat Georgia.
Tom Dawg 1
October 28th, 2012
6:20 pm
Please do not fire Paul Johnson.
TIME IS UP
October 28th, 2012
6:23 pm
TIME IS UP WITH THE JOHNSON EXPERIMENT. HE HAS GONE DOWNHILL AND THE PLAYERS DO NOT RESPECT HIM. HE IS NOT A COACH THAT IS GOING TO WIN YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT WITH THAT OFFENSE IN A MAJOR CONFERENCE. IT WAS WORTH THE TRY BUT THE TIME IS UP. RAD IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!!!! YOU ARE LOSING YOUR FAN BASE AND NO KID IN HIS RIGHT MIND IS GOING TO COME THERE NOW IF HE HAS OPPORTUNITIES AT CLEMSON, FSU, ETC. AND WANTS TO GO TO THE NFL. I WILL NOT ATTEND ANOTHER GAME UNTIL THIS GUY IS GONE.
RWill
October 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
Wow, more intelligence spewed since my post…
@highly respected troll: O’Leary and Friedgen are both good coaches. But, Friedgen failed at Maryland. Where had CPJ failed before coming here? Why fire CPJ to hire a fired former ACC HC? Wasn’t that the argument against Al Groh? O’Leary also struggled fielding quality defenses. Remember Joe Hamilton’s Junior and Senior years? A lot like now, only Tevin Washington is no Joe Hamilton.
@time is up: You bring up another failed argument against CPJ. That he can’t produce NFL talent. Lets look at this logically. On defense, GT can produce NFL talent. They run a 3-4, and may move back to a 4-3. Both systems are run in the NFL. A quality DC can produce NFL draft picks. On offense, obviously the system can produce running backs. Jonathan Dwyer can attest to that. More than one NFL scout has been quoted as saying GT is good at preparing WR’s for the NFL due to the blocking training they receive. And if they’re talented enough, they come out of this system, just like Demaryus Thomas and Stephen Hill. Offensive lineman? Maybe a bit more challenging due to having mostly smaller OL’s, but can happen just like anywhere else. The only position that that argument may hold merit is at quarterback. And currently at QB we have maybe our highest rated recruit of the CPJ era in Vad Lee. So, that argument holds no weight.
macrotech
October 28th, 2012
6:47 pm
RWill…I concur!!! GO TECH!!!
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 28th, 2012
7:17 pm
@Rwill – Johnson hadn’t failed anywhere before, but he’s failed at Georgia Tech. I was an undergrad at Southern when Johnson was there and he had some great teams, the ‘98 and ‘99 versions being the best. In 1998 they went 14-0 before blowing the NC game against UMass and then they won the 1999 NC game against Youngstown State. They also won the 2000 NC, largely on the back of Adrian Peterson – a player recruited by Tracy Ham. But, Johnson’s two best teams were laden with talent largely recruited by Frank Ellwood and Tim Stowers.
As far as Friedgen, he was fired after being the ACC COTY (for the second time) and he won the ACC Championship his first year at Maryland. His offenses at GT were much better than what Johnson is producing now. Besides, I wasn’t suggesting that he should be the HC at Tech (though it would be an improvement).
GJ
October 28th, 2012
7:21 pm
Happy to see it was halloween costume day at GT Saturday…..odd that so many chose to go as empty seats.
RWill
October 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
@highly respected troll: CPJ has also been ACC COTY and won an ACC championship. Friedgen won his in his first year at Maryland. With someone else’s recruits. Where were the ACC championships when he had all his players at Maryland? Friedgen’s offenses at Tech weren’t better than CPJ’s. They are comparable, and definitely different, but both produce 400+ yards per game, and 30+ points per game. If you think Friedgen’s offense produced better than CPJ’s then post some stats to back it up. I posted the recruiting ranking to make my point, all you guys are doing are spouting off with no facts.
Do you not realize that in your first paragraph you say CPJ has failed at Tech (with an ACC championship and a winning percentage of .600), then in your second paragraph tout Friedgen’s successes at Maryland (ACC championship, and a winning percentage of .600).
In your first paragraph, you say Johnson won national championships largely with others’ recruits. In your second paragraph, you then tout Friedgen, who won the ACC championship in his first year (WITH OTHERS’ RECRUITS).
Can you people not see the lack of logic you are using? You want to fire a head coach with a .600 winning percentage, to hire a previously fired ACC coach, who is 66, with a .600 winning percentage? What???
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
Has anyone ever stopped smoking cigarettes? Please tell me how……
yeller bug
October 28th, 2012
7:48 pm
Why can’t we write contracts for coaches based on performance? Pay CPJ $1M/year and $100k/win, double for UGA and ACCCG, and Bowl games. That way, when we lose, we can at least say it didn’t cost us anything.
Tech sure has some sorry lawyers….also failed to successfully argue our appeal for our ACC championship in 2009.
As for football—the TO is a good offense, but dadgum let’s add a few plays to it. As some have pointed out Vad, stumbles alot and I do not think he is coordinated enough to run the TO–so DO NOT RUN IT with him! Is the goal to win or stubbornly run your offense? TW runs the TO fairly effectively—he doesn’t pass well. Days, runs the TO so-so, seemed scared on the pitch, can throw a decent pass, but has ball control problems. Vad is still a bit raw, has a good arm and good vision/athletic ability when running, but doesn’t look comfortable running the TO and making reads—the reads are complex and Vad seems to be still in thinking mode not reaction mode. He cannot run the TO well.
So what is CPJ to do? If the TO must be run, then TW is the guy. If we have enough confidence to put in plays from the pistol, then run Vad from that. Or do both and interchange them even within a series.If it’s 3rd and 6 bring in Vad and throw a pass. Once Ds start adjusting, then run a sweep with Vad….throw on 1st down with TW…in other words, quit being predictable….go out of your way to not be predictable. Until we learn how to pass rush, the D is not going to get much better so the offense has to pick up the slack. We do have the tools, they just need to be deployed in an unconvetional manner.
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
NAME THIEF ALERT!! Poster @ 7:47 PM is a name thieving phony!!
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
@RWill – Friedgen did win in 2001 with other coachs’ recruits but he also won ACC COTY in 2011 with his own recruits. Besides, if you read my posts again you’ll see that I never touted Friedgen as HC at Tech. I said bring him AND O’Leary back. I think Friedgen makes a great OC (maybe Johnson, too) but I would prefer Tech have O’Leary as HC.
Johnson’s offenses are comparable to Friedgen’s? You must have selective memory. In 1998 and 1999 the Jackets put-up points and yardage that Johnson’s trainwreck can only dream of. Remember the 1999 game against Florida State? The Jackets put-up over 500 yards and 35 points in Tallahassee that night against the team that won the NC that year. Johnson’s crew wouldn’t have managed 150 yards and ten points against that crew. Hell, they couldn’t manage much more than 150 yards againt 4-loss BYU yesterday.
Paul Johnson HAS failed at Tech. Want to talk his record against Georgia? When you lose to your arch-rival three-of-four (including to two of their worst teams in years, i.e., 2009 and 2010) you stink. When you let Middle Tennessee run-over you, you stink! When you can’t win bowl games EVER, you stnk. And newsflash – there is NO 2009 ACC Championship at Tech anymore. Hell, he lost to a 6-5 Georgia team in 2009 right before his offense looked totally inept in the Orange Bowl against Iowa.
Quit making excuses for this clown. The more you guys defend him, the deeper you’re going to sink.
1 4 GT
October 28th, 2012
8:10 pm
yeller bug is right. Unless you have a stable full of the very best players on your team, ala Alabama, unconventional unpredictability is best. Keep em guessing.
Dewayne
October 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
If Tech loses to Maryland, it is time for a fire sale!!
macrotech
October 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
“Highly Respected Southern Troll”….I appreciate that you’re willing to admit to your trolling ways in your blog name. With that said, WHY would you think that ANY Tech fan ‘respects’ you thoughts? No offense, but seriously? Do you REALLY think you’re going to sway anyones thoughts? Just curious…troll away!
macrotech
October 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
I WILL say I think it’s time to give Vad Lee the bulk of the QB duties…there isn’t much to play for THIS season….time to invest in the future.
GTGirl
October 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
@RWill-thanks for your posts. You make some very good positive points and we need that right now.
Go Jackets! We should beat MD.
...Take The Wheel
October 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
@Joe
At no point did I say I was wrong about him. He had a bad day. Happens to the best of them. Vad still did not impress me. Sure the crowd was happy but he didn’t anything but excite the crowd. Id still like to Justin Thomas next year before the torch is passed.
...Take The Wheel
October 28th, 2012
11:06 pm
Even if I concede that the remaining games should be Vads. It’s not because he was better. Yeah he got 3 on the board but that was after 45 yards in penalties!!!! Hell Tevin got us in field goal position, it’s not his fault the kicker missed. Let’s just face it our offense got owned. They saw us coming a mile away and Vad was no answer. The crowd jeered just for seeing him, but he was not any better behind the wheel. He jumped around a little and got you all in the game, but it didn’t amount to anything.
I’m not drinking the kool-aid
...Take The Wheel
October 28th, 2012
11:18 pm
@Joe schmoe; GtFan; 1 4 Gt,
I suspect you will all be booing til you lose your voices! Cause there is no magic wand to fix the problems! And if there is, Vad doesn’t have it! He may come highly recommend but he’s didn’t show me anything special on Saturday.
Still wanna see Justin Thomas
pcb mike
October 29th, 2012
1:24 am
It is time for Paul to go, but I disagree with you guys that don’t see the talent in Vad Lee.
qb
October 29th, 2012
6:31 am
Need to get the ball in the hands of a playmaker,
Buzzzed
October 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
Everyone needs to chill out. Sheesh. CPJ will be with us for a few more years regardless. Until his contract is up, we need to give him full support which I will do.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Nothing to see here folks, same old Georgia Tech, find a new system where you pass with your QB, you let a bunch of Mormons come in and manhandle you. BYU did what youre supposed to do with this offense and that is plug up the holes, then what. At least Navy passes more now, youre too predictable, anyway Im done, just wanted to say hi, Jay – Middle Tennessee State Alum