Notes: Johnson’s concerns about BYU
Notes from coach Paul Johnson’s news conference Tuesday
1. Johnson expressed concern for defending BYU quarterback Riley Nelson, noting his experience and mobility.
“He’s got a strong arm, but he’s really hurt people when they get out of their rush lanes and he pulls the thing down on boots and run. The quarterback is a good player,” he said.
More broadly, Johnson anticipates a team that will test the Yellow Jackets with its size and strength.
“They’ll pass the look test, I promise you,” he said. “When we played them every year when I was at the University of Hawai’i, you won’t play too many teams that look any better getting off the bus than BYU.”
2. Johnson liked the way the rotation with the defensive line worked, with backups Adam Gotsis, Shawn Green, Anthony Williams and Euclid Cummings getting considerable time.
“I don’t know that anybody stands out and is that much better than anybody coming in,” he said. “So everybody gets some snaps.”
3. Nothing different with the kicking situation from Monday’s notes, although punter Sean Poole will be back holding.
4. Daniel Drummond is splitting snaps with Jabari Hunt-Days at the inside linebacker position opposite Quayshawn Nealy.
5. Johnson said something needs to be done to improve the pass rush, whether it’s blitzing, running stunts with the linemen or simply the linemen winning one-on-one against offensive linemen. Johnson said that the game video shows that players are actually getting closer to the quarterback than it seems during games, but, it is “clearly an issue.”
Another solution is dropping more players into pass coverage to flood passing lanes.
“You can’t just be one-dimensional,” he said. “You have to be able to do both.”
Regarding Nelson, Johnson acknowledged that forcing a faster player like him out of the pocket isn’t necessarily the answer.
“There are certain guys that you play that you want to keep in the pocket and you’d maybe rather see them throw it than you would pull it down and run with it,” Johnson said. “He’s pretty good at both but he can kill you if you don’t contain him because he’s got good speed, he’s a good athlete and he really hurts people when he gets out of the pocket.”
6. Johnson credited the success on third down (Boston College was 1-for-9) to better run defense. Tech gave up just 32 yards on 16 attempts. It yielded third-and-long situations, which the Eagles couldn’t convert.
In those situations, “You can play at the sticks and come up and tackle them and they had to punt the ball,” he said.
(It bears mentioning that Tech was having equal trouble with third-and-long and third-and-short earlier this season.)
7. There is no specific plan to play quarterback Vad Lee as of Tuesday. Johnson said he will see how practices goes this week before deciding.
“Clearly, he’s a good athlete and capable of making big plays,” Johnson said. “He also had the ball out a couple of times, we’ve got to do better on some read parts of the thing but he’s an exciting player and he kind of gives you a boost when he gets out there. No question about it.”
8. Defensively, Johnson said that the Cougars are “big and physical up front” and capable of stopping the run without secondary support. BYU also shows a lot of different looks on third-and-long, blitzes and fire-zone blitzes. He noted end Ezekiel Anseh, calling him a probable first-round draft pick.
9. A-back Synjyn Days’ playing time was limited Saturday because “he and I weren’t on the same page,” Johnson said. Johnson didn’t provide detail but suggested it was an off-field matter. Overall, Days is practicing better and will play against BYU with a good week of practice.
10. Offensive tackle Will Jackson’s shoulder injury muddles the offensive line depth. If he can’t play, Morgan Bailey will start at right tackle and either Bryan Chamberlain or Tyler Kidney would be the first off the bench. At guard, the first sub would be either Trey Braun or Errin Joe. If he does play, Johnson said that Jackson, who didn’t practice Monday and won’t again Tuesday afternoon, would be the first to rotate in at guard and tackle.
11. Offensive tackle Ray Beno (ankle) and B-back Zach Laskey (shoulder), both of whom left the game with injuries, practiced Monday.
12. Johnson, who voiced his displeasure Saturday (for the second time this year, that I can recall) with the lack of support offered by reserve players from the sideline, offered further explanation. He called it a matter of immaturity and observed that it has increased over the years.
“You’re part of the team and you should be there cheering on your teammates and be excited to watch what’s going on and not in la-la land,” he said.
Johnson particularly directed his frustration with players “who understand they’re probably not going to play, but that still doesn’t change,” he said. “It should still be a privilege to be able to dress out and have your name on the back of your uniform and be on the sidelines at Georgia Tech. It’s not something that you should just kind of show up.”
13. The players of the game for the Boston College win were A-back B.J. Bostic, safety Isaiah Johnson and long snapper Tyler Morgan. Bostic had five carries for 28 yards and two catches for 66 yards. Both receptions were enormous. The first was a phenomenal 39-yard catch on a 3rd-and-8 on the opening drive that prevented Tech from having to punt from its own 8-yard line. The second was a 27-yarder in the second quarter that converted a 3rd-and-26 and kept alive a possession that ended in a touchdown for a 14-0 lead.
Johnson made four solo tackles, tied for most total tackles on the team and had a forced fumble on the first play of the second half that the Jackets converted into a field goal. Morgan had a mistake-free afternoon on 11 snaps.
In case you missed it…
Notes: Field-goal unit needing repair
Tech vs. highly ranked run defenses
With BYU next, no-huddle issues loom for Tech
Thanks for reading.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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juvenal
October 23rd, 2012
3:19 pm
last!
juvenal
October 23rd, 2012
3:22 pm
maybe not, Ken-good nuts & bolts details, thanks……
juvenal
October 23rd, 2012
3:39 pm
if you are near the V, Saturday, Ken, come by the corner of West Peachtree & the street that comes out of their parking deck-the chef is great!
If you have kids, read this
October 23rd, 2012
3:42 pm
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George Stein
October 23rd, 2012
3:44 pm
Lotta notes today, Ken. Thanks!
I wonder if BYU looks better coming off the bus because many are older. As for the lack of pass rush, why not give up rushing the QB on passing downs and play nine DBs in coverage and use two LBs to keep the QB in the pocket? I have long thought that would be an effective strategy, especially in the red zone.
Jacket Detective
October 23rd, 2012
3:57 pm
We don’t need to worry about BYU.
I checked with the football experts on their blogs in Utah and every high school in Utah has a QB with a better arm than Riley Nelson.
Ken provided the link so we could observe a similar QB debate.
With that kind of sure thing inside info, I’m going to bet the farm on GT.
AtWork
October 23rd, 2012
4:01 pm
Ken,
1) What were some of the problems on the sideline?
2) Could you ask Coach Kelly about changing from the field to the press box? And how “the group” of coaches are going to keep the kids motivated for 4 qtrs? or was the defense more of a prevent defense in the 4th qtr last Sat.
To me it seems that if i had let 3 teams score 40 or more on me in consecutive weeks i would be focused to make sure i didn’t allow any scores if i could help it.
Why change Jamea to safety from Corner? Was Golden just not getting the job done?
Thanks!
Go Jackets!
Awesomeb
October 23rd, 2012
4:04 pm
Hmmm. I have read this blog alot and don’t recall much, if any, of what you speak of. And I am a guy who doesn’t let my 14 year old watch rated R movies that most people seem to be doing when their kids are 2!!
GT Joe
October 23rd, 2012
4:08 pm
Well, there you have it: Days hasn’t played much because he and CPJ “aren’t on the same page”. In other words, CPJ is trying to break a player (kinda like breaking a horse), teach him a lesson. It’s his way, or the bench, regardless of whether you are the better player. Vad hasn’t played much for the same reason, although Vad is recently showing signs of breaking apparently (based on playing time vs. BC).
Maybe CPJ is more concerned about absolute control than winning. Or maybe he thinks that absolute control leads to winning? This is old-school mentality.
I’m pretty sure he’s not a “player’s coach”.
Wow, Ken, did CPJ...
October 23rd, 2012
4:09 pm
…say that stuff with a straight face? He must be channeling his inner Vince Dooley and Bear Bryant –
Did he by any chance say that BYU has the best long snapper in the country? Maybe the “getting off the bus” comment was comparable to the snapper quote from Dooley…
Jacket Detective
October 23rd, 2012
4:10 pm
@AtWork.
Jamea is good at playing center field and making picks.
Maybe they think he’ll get more chances at safety.
If he plays corner, they can just throw to the other side or slot receiver.
He also is a good tackler.
Some fans are critical of our secondary but with the time we give opposing QBs, who couldn’t get open?
ramblingbuzz
October 23rd, 2012
4:15 pm
Hey, is that getting off the bus comment from CPJ going become bulletin board material for BYU?
Ken Sugiura
October 23rd, 2012
4:28 pm
AtWork (funny handle) – i gather that some of the walk-ons weren’t paying attention/encouraging their teammates. As Johnson put it, “If you want to giggle it up and laugh and cut up and have fun and dance to the video board, then go get in the stands.”
the problem defensively, it seemed to me, was when Boston College went to the no-huddle. I’m not sure if it was causative or just a matter of the score, but they were moving it pretty effectively from there on out. I will try to delver into it further.
thomas is a better safety than golden, who is a corner who was subbing at safety. jacket detective also has a point, that i think coaches wanted to get him more playmaking chances.
i don’t know if i’m overexplaining, but Johnson’s “getting off the bus” comment was basically meant to say that they’re a big, physically imposing team. it’s a football-ism, kind of like dick vitale’s all-airport team. and, george stein, i believe you are absolutely correct.
GT Joe – i think you’re misreading it. it was a one-game situation.
TechApp fan
October 23rd, 2012
4:31 pm
As I already noted, sometimes it’s hard to determine if the QB “reads” correctly or if Johnson called a special play.
Now one guy suggesting Tech give up the pass rush and another is stating that not rushing/giving the QB too much time to pick out & throw is a major problem. No wonder I get confused!
AtWork
October 23rd, 2012
4:43 pm
@Jacket Detective
I thought that might be it. I would want Jamea on the field at all times…he is our best tackler in the open field. Sweeting has been lacking on some plays. Don’t know why but kinda like a gambling CB either TD or Pick.
@Ken
Thanks! BC was moving the ball well but it seemed like the defense knew it was a victory and was ok with garbage yardage and scores. I wish our defense had the fire that the BC QB had. He wanted that last play and wanted to score. GT needs to play with some fire even though the win was locked up.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
4:44 pm
I am stunned but pleased that Isaiah Johnson was one of the players of the game. I hope he keeps it up.
GT Joe
October 23rd, 2012
4:45 pm
Ken: Days hasn’t carried the ball in the last 4 games. I guess they’ve been on the wrong page for 4 games, or maybe Days hasn’t learned the position well enough, or did I miss an injury?
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
4:45 pm
@ AtWork……I agree. The whole team needs to develop a killer instinct
GT Fan
October 23rd, 2012
4:49 pm
I live in Utah, so I’m getting plenty of intel on BYU and Riley Nelson.
Good athlete? Yes
Mistake prone? Abs-so-frigin-lute-ly!
Best QB on BYU? NO … Riley, the SR, was incumbent starter. Got hurt, and in came, FR, Taysom Hill … bigger, faster, better arm than Nelson. And not mistake prone. Hill suffered a season-ending injury on an inexcusable play at the end of the BYU-Utah St game (6-3 Cougar W). Instead of kneeling on ball, BYU coach called a QB run play, and QB got injured.
Nelson, IMO, tries to do TOO much, and it leads to lots of mistakes/TOs. He LOVES running the ball on passing plays. And gets yards too, but mistakes are there if he’s defended well. Maybe GT should use Jemea & Chris Milton to “spy” Nelson the entire game?
BYU, b/c of their D, is 4-4. If not, they’d be 3-5 at best. Only wins would be Wash St, Weber St, Hawaii, with Ls to Boise (7-6), Utah (24-21) ND (17-13) being much worse (even though NONE of those 3 has a good O). And their 6-3 win over USU would be a loss.
IOW, their D is good. However, I’m more optimistic that GT can move the ball, effectively, on the ground after seeing BYU’s rush D the past 2 games 118-OrgSt, 270-ND.
MaconGTFan
October 23rd, 2012
4:52 pm
@Supersize I’ve been doing some thinking about Isiah Johnson. What if he’s actually not misplaying a receiver, but rather someone else is and he’s the guy that has to tackle em. I noticed against BC over the weekend that on a zone defense play, Drummond was covering a guy in his zone a just released him. The QB hit the receiver in stride and Johnson had to come up and make the play. Now why Drummond released the guy with no team mate around to pick him up, i have no idea. Johnson did make the tackle, but after a first down. With that said, who’s to say that hasn’t been happening all year?
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
4:56 pm
@ Macon…..who knows? Interesting idea though.
Jacket Detective
October 23rd, 2012
4:56 pm
@Supersize.
Isaiah heard I was taking up for him at the tailgate party and stepped up his game.
Kidding.
GT Fan
October 23rd, 2012
5:02 pm
A-back Synjyn Days’ playing time was limited Saturday because “he and I weren’t on the same page,” Johnson said. Johnson didn’t provide detail but suggested it was an off-field matter.
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I don’t think ANY athlete, much less 18-22 yr-old kids, likes to be praised by his coach as being “too good to be standing on the sideline” then rarely see the field and have his abilities put to use.
Maybe PJ should stop giving so much praise of these kids if he’s not going to give them a chance to prove his [PJ's] praise.
spider
October 23rd, 2012
5:02 pm
should i take a brief case with me to fill up with all the literature from the other teams fans i will be receiving while walking down north ave from the marta station?
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
5:05 pm
@ JD…..been meaning to email you. It was good to see you Saturday, but you got there so late. Hope you will join us again this Saturday and get there a little earlier.
GT Fan
October 23rd, 2012
5:07 pm
JD & Supersize …
The 12yd TD pass to the TE is on IJ … watch it on ESPN “video 22″ tab of the GT-BC highlights.
IDK what IJ was thinking/doing on that play. The WR was coverd by the DB to his right, and the TE goes in motion then right up the middle, past the LBs, and IJ barely moves…until it’s too late. Better instincts just might be a IJ int?
GT Fan
October 23rd, 2012
5:11 pm
Ken,
Can you have PJ tell Tevin that the “soft toss” is to be used only at the beginning of his warm-ups, NOT during the game. Thanks so much!
Best Regards,
GT Fan
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
5:14 pm
@ GT Fan……That’s what I thought, but I did think what Macon said was at least a possibility
MaconGTFan
October 23rd, 2012
5:27 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying every play like the one I mentioned. I know IJ is gonna make mistakes. Was just pointing out one play that I saw that was a mistake by Drummond. And who’s to say that one of the backers weren’t supposed to pick up the tight end? You could be right GT Fan, but it could have been a blown coverage by one of the backers that IJ had to step up again and try to make the play. If that was the case, then it would explain why he looked so confused.
GT
October 23rd, 2012
5:36 pm
GT Joe- You’ve hit the nail on the head. That’s exactly how he coaches. If you’re on board you play, if not, you don’t play no matter what your talent level is. This is well known by past and current players. You see it in the attitude of players and it’s starting to turn ugly.
GT
October 23rd, 2012
5:39 pm
GT Fan- Haha I laughed pretty hard at that one. Same situation as I mentioned above. There are players with better talent on the team. They don’t fit his scheme, and, therefore, can’t play. If he’d tailor the offense (say like Fridge did for lil’ Joe) we’d see more of these players on the field.
AtWork
October 23rd, 2012
5:41 pm
@Supersize
I don’t think you can really teach killer instinct. I do think you can uncover it…bring it out. I would like to see recruits coming in have it. I think Autry has it. I think Lee has it. Just want to see everyone have it.
Here’s to hoping that some tough practices help bring it out.
Go Jackets!
GT
October 23rd, 2012
5:42 pm
Simple solution really, recruit your type of players for your system (he obviously can’t). He then moves to the lower tier recruits not picked up by other southern schools. These players don’t exactly fit his system and refuse to adapt. Therefore, we see a dropoff in talent through his scheme on the field. All comes down to recruiting.
MaconGTFan
October 23rd, 2012
5:43 pm
@GT Why in the hell would you want a player on the field, no matter how talented he is, that isn’t on board? This isn’t a run of the mill offense that just anyone can jump in and play. Show you understand on the practice field and that you’re a team player and you play. Bottom line. Vad hasn’t played as much cause he doesn’t understand the playbook as well as Tevin. And per PJ he’s still missing his reads. When Vad understands the read aspect of this offense, then he will be the starter. There is no breaking people like Joe said. It about understanding the offense. And as for Days not playing, that is beyond me. He’s shown he can and will block, but my guess is that PJ is worried about his fumblitis that he showed last year.
GT
October 23rd, 2012
5:51 pm
Macon- I totally agree. If you want to play learn the plays. Most players don’t want to learn the offense and can’t play (even though their talent level is high and they feel like they deserve to play- hence breaking them). I was just simply explaining why we’re in our current situation with this team. It’s a brilliant system. Just get the correct players on the team.
MaconGTFan
October 23rd, 2012
5:58 pm
I personally don’t think it’s that bad of a situation, minus the receivers. Autry not counting. Even though they can block so that’s a plus. Look at Orwin Smith, 2* coming out of high school, but plays as if he’s a 5*. On the other hand there’s Perkins. I think he was a 4*, but hasn’t seen the field and was beat out by a sophomore and converted QB. PJ has called him out in the past over his supposed entitlement to play. The talent isn’t as bad either on the o-line and on the defensive side of the ball. If Tech had a defense, they’re sitting at 6-1 if not 7-0. I personally think the Klempsum game could have gone either way.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
6:00 pm
@ GT…..I don’t disagree with you completely, but I think the recruits and prospective recruits know what kind of coach Johnson is when they sign. If they don’t want to try after they get here, then there is really no solution. EVERYBODY knows that CPJ is a hard-nosed coach, so why sign on if you aren’t willing to accept that to begin with?
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
6:01 pm
I would imagine that every school in America has similar players. They think they DESERVE to play just by virtue of the fact that they are on scholarship. Humility and second effort can’t be taught any more than the killer instinct can; they are all qualities that have to be nurtured and developed pretty much on your own.
MaconGTFan
October 23rd, 2012
6:02 pm
Perfectly said Super.
G.P. Burdell
October 23rd, 2012
6:13 pm
I’ve never done this on any blog before, but I’ve heard enough from people that have no idea and are making comments solely on speculation.
GT Joe, PJ believes heavily in good ole fashioned discipline. I for one, love that about him…look 90 miles to the East and you’ll see many fans crying for their coach to instill discipline. None of us know what the disagreement between Days and PJ were, but I can guarantee you that the discipline was warranted, probably something boneheaded like not showing up for class or the weightroom or late to meetings, etc. PJ nips it in the bud before it becomes a bigger problem and infests the team and I like that.
Secondly, I personally know several guys that I played ball with that played for PJ at Southern. And I can tell you right now that the players love his desire and determination to win and demanding excellence from his players. In fact, when he was hired, I asked one of my friends that played for him what he thought and his comment was, “It’s a great thing, the players will run through a brick wall for Coach Johnson.” Players don’t say those sorts of things about many coaches.
Lastly, the issue with the younger players horsing around on the sidelines speaks exactly to discipline. By saying it’s gotten worse over the years, PJ is insinuating that the players are coming in more immature these days. And why? Because it starts at home. PJ can’t do anything during the middle of the game, but I bet you he has some grad assist. watching and reporting back and if those little boys want to act like, then they will never see the field.
Ok, I’m off my soap box now and will try to stay off.
GT4Life (the original)
October 23rd, 2012
6:13 pm
@GT Joe – I agree. I’m sick of the mind games that CPJ is playing. He has quickly turned my strong support into a tepid acceptance. This type of controlling behavior doesn’t just effect the targeted player but takes a toll on the team as a whole. If CPJ gets fired, it’ll be interesting to hear if the players comments mirror those about Groh’s departure.
Nativebird
October 23rd, 2012
6:35 pm
Paul Johnson is a joke.
AtWork
October 23rd, 2012
7:06 pm
If CPJ was mistreating or being biased in any way to his players we would know. With Social Media…we would see. CPJ is teaching for actions there are reactions. Some kids get it faster than others. Sometimes you have to make an example out of someone…Al Groh sound familiar?
I would rather have a hard nosed approach and the kids benefit from life lessons versus my coach calling a recruit to sing happy birthday to him and once that recruit signs he is missing games for drug possesion or weapon charges or something like that.
BigTimeTECHFans
October 23rd, 2012
7:08 pm
GT will roll over BYU this Saturday.
tech fan
October 23rd, 2012
7:09 pm
If tech wins out and beats uga and win bowl game, then the season will not be so bad!
Since Vad Lee will prob be starter next yr, I wonder if cpj will use the spread option less and the pistol more to utilize Vads strengths?
uafuneman
October 23rd, 2012
7:09 pm
CPJ needs to worry about why Ga. Tech returned 2000 tickets back to UGA for the game. CPJ is going down,down,down.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
7:13 pm
@ AtWork……you’re damn right. And these posters who don’t like that kind of approach by Johnson probably are every bit as immature as those players who get disciplined.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
7:16 pm
@ uafuneman…..I quit going to Athens years before Johnson came to Tech. I don’t go to Athens because of the lousy, r—-neck fans (most of whom never even darkened the door of any college) who throw things at opposing fans and spit on them (THAT happened to me). Why put up with such imbeciles when we can watch the game in the SAFE comfort of my home. And don’t say that goes on everywhere either, because I have never seen behavior like that at Clemson or Auburn or Notre Dame……ONLY IN ATHENS !!!!
TN GT
October 23rd, 2012
7:17 pm
I love have of you read a report about them not beng on the same page as CPJ having control. Maybe he shipped class or was late to practice/team meeting. You have know idea what the problem is. All I know is that I enjoy not reading about who is getting arrested from GT every month. Maybe that is why GT Joe loves to mention AI as his examples. He doesn’t mind half the team being in trouble. If CPJ was a control freak where the kids didn’t like him; don’t you think the kids who leave would make comments about him.
GT Joe and GT4Life..I can tell you know nothing about college football and prob have never played a high school sport more less college. You name me 1 college coach in America that isnt a control freak. They all are. If they weren’t, they would all have a DC and OC that called every paly.
TN GT
October 23rd, 2012
7:20 pm
Tech Fan..you can have a throwing QB out of the TO..you don’t have to be in the pistol..look at his days at GSU when they had Tracy Ham in the early 90s
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
7:27 pm
I would rather have the discipline of P.J. than that of the coach in Athens. I guarantee you Johnson never called a recruit to sing happy birthday to him. I am from Statesboro and have never heard any player that he coached say that he was unfair about anything.
burdell great post
October 23rd, 2012
7:32 pm
these jokes we call bloggers such as gi joe. gt. native bird etal need to go root for bama or uga if they are so unhappy with the ‘mind’ games that cpj plays.
you know… the bama team that has been no 1 for like forever over the last 4 years. the same bama team who has a coach that plays so may mind games with the players they are not only afraid of him but he routinely recruits 35+ players every year and than removes 13 players every year to reach the 85 player limit. talk about mind games. saban certainly dont ‘mind’.
or maybe you guys can go root for coach richt. you know that singing hugging swimming joking christiany kinda guy that all the uga players love. the same coach that has one of the top recruiting programs in the entire country playing like kentucky and vanderbilt each saturday. yeah just what we need. we need our coaches to be best buddies to the players. heck maybe he can even bail them out of jail like they do at uga year in and year out. gotta love that tough love we see at uga.
as far as cpj not being able to recruit nfl talent…. how the hell would we even know that duh. cpj has been here since 08. the players from his first recruiting class are playing as seniors now! chan gailey had his best class in 07. it took him SEVEN YEARS. cpj has not even finished year 5.
And i hate to tell ya but the reason days does not get snaps is because he is a fumble machine both in practice and in the games. that is a plain ol lack of focus on his part. after all, it is not like he is missing an arm or hands now is it? of course if you were real fans you would know that. your just fans of whining an crying an picking at our players and our coaches. none of you would dare say what you do on this blog to any of the players faces. bawk!
cpj not a players coach? last time i looked the players/fans at navy an ga southern loved cpj so much that they are now sidewalk jacket fans. i have seen post after post on the blogs saying as much.
i have to tell ya… we have some of the most ignorant whiners for fans i have ever seen and some are posting in this thread!
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
7:35 pm
I haven’t been to Athens since 98 and I don’t care if TECH were the UGa freshmen and going to win by 50 I am not going to a football game in ATHENS.
I like to go to away games and have a good time win or lose but you can’t do that in Athens with those fans.
DOC 51
October 23rd, 2012
7:40 pm
GT players don’t improve very much under CPJ and his staff.What you see as a freshman or soph. is basically what you get as a senior.There is an improvement progression under coaches like N.SABAN and U.MEYER.S.DAYS has been there 3 yrs.and look at him.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
7:41 pm
@ burdell great post……ABSOLUTELY CORRECT !!!
@ UOAD…..totally agree with you too
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
7:42 pm
@ DOC 51……whether you like Tevin or not, the fact is he HAS improved under CPJ, as have just about everybody else too.
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm
UOAD, my last game in Athens was in 1960. Not much has changed since then regarding the UGA fans.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
7:53 pm
@ ole yeller……going to Athens, no matter when, you always realize a r—neck is a r—neck; it never changes and never will
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
7:54 pm
I’m outta here, guys. have fun
DOC 51
October 23rd, 2012
7:58 pm
If all the GT players were improving on a regular basis we would definitely be better than (10-12) over the last 22 games.
jwill
October 23rd, 2012
8:00 pm
Only season ticket holders can buy the Tech-uGAG tix
jwill
October 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Its under contract for both sides
Jacket Time
October 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Wow seems like some pple are having a hard time accepting that CPJ is the HEAD COACH, the boss, head honcho, etc… It is his team and not the players nor the fans for that matter who run the team. He does. But i get it. We love winning and that is not happening so your taking shots at the right person at least.
Worried about BYU. If their D shuts us down, I’m pretty sure our worn out D will have another 4th quarter catastrophe. We’re gonna need to find a rythm on O and maintain it. This is going to be a true test to see what we’re made of and if we have any chance of turning our season around this game will determine that.
Jacket Time
October 23rd, 2012
8:03 pm
Yikes i’m going to athens for the 1st time this year. Y’all got me second guessing that decision.
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
8:04 pm
Hey guys have been o a couple of these boards and have gotten a few suggestions (thanks 1 4 GT). Looking for a spot to tailgate and not being from the area I am asking that you help out fellow college football fan. Any advice/recomendations would be greatly appreciated. See you guys saturday regardless…..GO Cougs!!!
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
8:08 pm
Jacket Time you will hear some things said to you about you and your wife or mother that will make you mad I am sure. I hope you sit near some classy UGa fans but they are hard to find.
well doc 51 if your so smart....
October 23rd, 2012
8:11 pm
i suggest you email drad and volunteer to coach the team. show us your stuff.
as far as saban goes…. comparing him to cpj is apples to grapes. are you really serious? sheeeesh,.
saban’s players dont have to go to school. bama can hide players in joke classes. bama is a football factory as is uf. every player cpj signs must meet the approval of the hill. bama and uf never have to deal with anything like that. of course you should know that but yet you still whine.
furthermore….. saban and meyer over recruit. i promise you that days would never have lasted 3 years with coach saban. PROMISE. we get bama cast off’s. dont we have a wr that bama cast off that is doing absolutely nothing at gt either? but he will stay with us an graduate using up a spot on that 85 man roster.
saban would have found a way or reason to remove days off the team an moved on to a player who does ‘get on board’. that is what over signing 35 players ever year will do for you.
gt and cpj over the last 4 years have averaged around 20 signees every year. signees that must get by the hill…. every year.
by my book that means that in a 5 year span… bama has the opportunity to not only take the top players in the nation (that gt has no shot at) but they also get to cherry pick the best 85 players from that crop of (35 x5 =) 175 nationally elite players they sign.
and you have the nerve to even compare saban’s situation with that of cpj’s? lmao at you dude. your hilarious!
give me a break.
get real would you!
your comments are complete jokes.
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
8:15 pm
BYU fan you can stop our area. It is in the parking lot at the corner of Ponce de Leon Place between Spring and West Peachtree St.
Juvenal and his wife make a nice spread and we like to meet nice fans.
Here is a mapquest link to the location. Keep chatting this week and I am sure Juvenal will respond soon.
http://www.mapquest.com/#ce2b9e5ab5c3231f089767b7
Jacket Time
October 23rd, 2012
8:17 pm
UOAD I guess will have to mentally prepare and bring a rain suit based on what happened to super.
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Might not be a bad idea. LOL
Dad and i just got so over it and mom I think her last trip to Athens was in the early 80’s. I know we all have bad fans, but I have found more in Athens than any other trip we have ever taken.
St. Richt
October 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
I’m trying to support our coach- but having Hunt-Days split snaps with Drummond is insane. Drummond is the slowest linebacker to ever play at GT. Isaiah Johnson might well be the slowest safety, too.
Jacket Time
October 23rd, 2012
8:29 pm
I can see that just based on experiences when they are at our stadium.
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
8:36 pm
@ UOAD
Thanks for the invite. That is the roughly the same location I got earlier. Do you guys park in that lot or the garage like a block away? We will be in a smaller madza and would love to be able to just squeeze in. Thanks again and I will stay on with this name and see if we cant figure some stuff out. Will you guys have a grill I could bum some space on or should I bring my own??
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
8:41 pm
BYU the lot has parking only with a PASS. So some of the guys park in the decks a block away and walk over. If you are there early some can get space in the VARSITY lot too.
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
8:42 pm
juvenal has a grill and he or his wife cook something. I think if you check back you can ask JUVENAL all your questions.
1 4 GT
October 23rd, 2012
8:46 pm
BYU Fan in Fl….juvenal & his wife have a grill & UOAD is one of our regulars. The lot we are talking about is $200 for the season. No single game parking. I park in the garage because it is a short walk & is covered & guarded. C’mon Up!!!! I gave you directions to the garage. If you print off my directions, you will not get lost.
1 4 GT
October 23rd, 2012
8:48 pm
UOAD….I thought the V lot was a $200 season pass lot too?????
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:01 pm
Only stopping by for a minute, but juvenal extended a blanket invitation earlier. Last week was the first time he has had a grill, and I don’t know what his plans are this week. Prior to last week, he had finger food, but plenty of it, and it was good. BYU fan….no need to bring anything unless you want to bring some beverages or sweets (I usually bring sweets), The parking deck 1 4 GT mentioned is convenient and easy to get in and out of.
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
9:06 pm
Awesome!!!!! 1 4 GT you probably figure out this is Ben from the other board. Hey if you guys dont mind me incroaching I would be glad to come and meet some new folks. Cant say I am a “good” mormon so I will indulge in a few brews as well
figured you guys porbably would be alright with that. The wife and I hope to see you guys there. Looking for Honda ridgeline pickup right?? that was the rumor anyway 
Thanks again guys you have been great!!!! Saturday should be fun!!!
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:08 pm
@ BYU Fan……UNLIKE UGA fans in Athens, you will be accepted warmly by the Tech fans and treated with dignity.
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
9:11 pm
I might suggest if you have a folding chair you might consider bring 1 or 2 just in case.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:12 pm
You can’t take the folding chairs to the stadium, but the parking deck is close enough to the tailgate lot that you can drop them back at your car before going to the game
GT Fan
October 23rd, 2012
9:15 pm
Why should you invite more than one mormon to your party, or in BYU-in-FL’s case, to your tailgate?
B/c if you don’t he/she will drink all of your booze!
Just having fun BYU in FL … please forgive.
1 4 GT
October 23rd, 2012
9:16 pm
I can bring a couple of bag chairs if needed Supersize. Let me know.
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
9:16 pm
Like I said earlier I like college football…I just happen to be rooting for the team that is playing you…..doesnt mean we cant have a little fun in the mean time….everybody has there classless fans I dont take you guys to be those nor do I consider myself one….oblivious with high hopes of couse but thats what being a fan is about right. It sucks we are 7 points from being 7-1…but thats football some years. You guys understand that. CHairs CHeck!!!!!
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
9:19 pm
GT FAN its all good…..I am sure a Polygamy joke will come out sooner than later
And I only have the one wife…..for the record 
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:19 pm
@ 1 4 GT……I don’t need a chair. I like to roam around too much to want to sit down. The friend coming with me doesn’t need one either, so don’t waste your time.
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
9:20 pm
Great to see an opposing fan with class. You don’t see if often in the South.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:20 pm
@ BYU fan…..I like your sense of humor. And, for the record, the majority, if not all, of us tailgating together will be voting for Romney.
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
9:20 pm
it
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:21 pm
@ ole yeller……I went the Clemson game, and their fans had class……at least all the ones I saw…..except for one jerk, and the Clemson fans around me apologized to me for his behavior.
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
9:22 pm
Super, the key word is often.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:23 pm
@ ole yeller……LOL. true
Reformed Toady
October 23rd, 2012
9:29 pm
uafuneman
October 23rd, 2012
7:09 pm
“CPJ needs to worry about why Ga. Tech returned 2000 tickets back to UGA for the game. CPJ is going down,down,down.”
You are what is commonly known as an azzhat. I assume you work for or own a tire shop. The reason is self evident. Opposing fans have to endure so much material damage (the cost would be in the thousands of dollars) just to endure threats and verbal abuse to young children and women for the “game day” experience of Athens. No thanks. Sell those tickets to the “true dawgfans” (sic). Maybe UGA will have a sell out of that Soviet era megalith. Please be sure to get sloppy drunk and try not to get arrested. The library is now off limits for urination and defecation. Plan accordingly you pathetic excuse for a human being. Go Dwags!
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
9:31 pm
Dont know that I will be voting for Romney but I wont hold it against you…..You have been more than kind enough already…really looking forward to it. Hope to get up there about 1…assuming the traffic isnt stopped anywhere on 75 we can usually fly up that in 5 hours or so.
Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial adviso
October 23rd, 2012
9:32 pm
I am back my friends!
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
9:33 pm
Super, I am biased to be true. My bad experience’s were with UGA, FSU Miami, and Alabama. All but the Bama games were away games. So I guess my only taste of bad stuff at home was with Bama. Remember Darwin Holt, real classy.
Notes: Tech faces age-gap challenge vs. BYU | Georgia Tech
October 23rd, 2012
9:36 pm
[...] Notes: Johnson’s concerns about BYU [...]
5150 UOAD
October 23rd, 2012
9:41 pm
I was lucky at FSU. My buddy had company tickets. We went to the Chief’s Club on top of the stadium for the Tailgate party. People in that club were not going to be buttheads. I was the ONLY TECH FAN in his ticket area so I caught a lil abuse but not really UGLY stuff. Mostly good humor ribbing.
GT Fan
October 23rd, 2012
9:41 pm
BYU in FL … I live in Utah (Farmington). I love college football too, but the skiing is a little better in Utah than GA.
Went to the Holy War and BYU-Oregon St games. Will be flying back to ATL for this game too.
Enjoy the tailgating experience in ATL, and game on for a great game!
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:41 pm
@ ole yeller…..The Darwin Holt incident happened in Birmingham, not Atlanta, but I do remember Bama fans being obnoxious in Atlanta. I have been to Athens, Chapel Hill (so-so), Auburn (so-so), Knoxville (moderately bad, but not terrible), VT (OK, I guess, but that was the year of the “lightning bowl”, and everybody got screwed), Clemson (good), and Notre Dame (surprisingly excellent)
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:46 pm
I also went to LA for a USC – Tech game and had no problems there either.
Reformed Toady
October 23rd, 2012
9:46 pm
BYU fan, vote how you please. Tech fans are cordial and welcome everyone. Enjoy the game. I hope to see more than one BYU fan at the game. What’s great about Tech fans is they police themselves. Go Jackets!
Jim G
October 23rd, 2012
9:46 pm
Ken, I’m a big Orwin Smith fan. On Saturday it looked like he might be hurt. Any news about his health?
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Actually, the USC fans were pretty cool. Tech lost, but Charlie Dudish put on one helluva display, and the SC cheerleaders led the fans in a “Dudish, RAH!!!” cheer. I was stunned.
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Sorry, Super. I must have been thinking of Ted Davis kicking someones head.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:51 pm
@ ole yeller…..Ted Davis played for Tech
Bill from Dacusville
October 23rd, 2012
9:51 pm
Fire Pitiful Paul and hire Bobby Valentine—-Or Ozzie Guillen-whoever–anybody
OldSchool
October 23rd, 2012
9:54 pm
I have gotten 4 FREE tickets to the UGA-Tech game in Athens every other year for over 25 years. Six years ago my wife said she would never, ever go back, free tickets or not. She simply had her fill of rude, obnoxious, arrogant, intoxicated UGA fans who—well, you get the picture. As another Tech fan noted, we have been to games at Clemson, Auburn, and Virginia Tech, to name a few, and have never suffered anywhere near the kind of abuse that we have received in Athens.
Are fans at Tech home games immune to such behavior. No, in fact, my wife cussed out a so-called Yellow Jacket fan after the Miami last month for making a totally uncalled for comment to a friend who was wearing Miami colors. Her exact words were: “Put on Red and Black and go to Athens where you belong!”
So yes, every school has fans who exhibit abhorent behavior. There is just a much, much greater percentage of such idiots in Athens. Emphasis on “percentage,” not total numbers.
As for me, I’ll be in Athens on Nov. 24th, just as I have been there every even year since 1962 when I went to the game as a Boy Scout usher. I’ll tune out the idiots and cheer for the Jackets, just as I have been doing for 50 years.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:55 pm
@ OldSchool…….good for you. I admire your courage. LOL
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
9:56 pm
Exactly, it happened. Just saying, got a little confused with who kicked who and when. Davis did kick someone in the head and was thrown out of the game.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
9:59 pm
@ ole yeller……gotcha. Do you remember Herschel kicking a Tech player in the head on the sideline late in the game one year in Atlanta?
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:01 pm
@ ole yeller……and referring to the Darwin Holt incident, he didn’t kick Chik Granning; he leveled him with both arms locked to the jaw on, if memory serves me right, a fair catch punt.
Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial adviso
October 23rd, 2012
10:09 pm
Looking forward to saturday and a fresh start! As for going to Athens for games i love it, the sight of mullets and acid washed jeans amuses me!
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
10:10 pm
Like I said I remember a kick to the head by Ted Davis. I Remember the Holt deal there was a vicious forearm involved while on the ground, it was on the sidelines, No I do not remember anything about Hershel Walker kicking anyone. Could have happened, but I separate Walker from the other backs UGA recruits. Any one out there remember the facts? Please respond. A forearm to the jaw was involved. I will yield if I am incorrect, but I saw it.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:13 pm
@ ole yeller……I don’t think Granning was on the ground or on the sideline when it happened, but it was a vicious forearm by Holt to Granning’s face. I’ll see if I can Google it
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:16 pm
@ ole yeller…..this was the take on it by an Alabama sportswriter…….
We were playing Tech in Birmingham. There were no hard feelings beforehand. I remember Alice Dodd came up to me before the game, and we visited. Anyway, in the fourth quarter Holt was dropping back on a punt. His assignment was to take the end out. Graning was the end, and when they came together Holt reared up and hit Graning with his elbow. The official had his back on the play and didn’t see it. I didn’t see it until I looked at the films. Actually we complained on the play, because Billy Richardson was interfered with catching the punt.
Well, it wouldn’t happen once in 15,000 times, because he didn’t hit him hard enough, but the elbow got through Graning’s face guard and fractured his jaw. After the game Tonto Coleman of Tech, Dodd’s assistant, came over to our dressing room to congratulate our boys, and he said something about Graning being hurt, and I called Holt over, and he said, “Yessir, coach, I’m sorry. I made a mistake,” or something. Well, the next night, after our TV program, I went to New Orleans on Sugar Bowl business, and I still didn’t know Graning was hurt seriously.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:20 pm
@ ole yeller …… Check out this update on the incident from a neutral writer writing about it in 2008 —-
http://www.concordiasentinel.com/news.php?id=2129
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
10:24 pm
I yield, but I also looked it up. It was after the play was over. It was a cheap shot pal. You now a Bama fan?
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:25 pm
Hell, no. Like I said, the first thing I posted was written by a Bama fan. The link I posted tells the true story. I would like to read the original article by Bisher or Outlar; I’m sure it’s out there somewhere. One of few times in AJC history, where the writers actually stood up for Tech.
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
10:28 pm
The true story was it was a cheap shot. I read your link. The play was over.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:29 pm
Yep. But Bear never even acknowledged it. I think that link said he apologized for it, but my memory of it is that he didn’t even do that.
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
10:31 pm
Super, enough of the past. Let us kick A—z the rest of the season. Hope to see you Saturday.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:33 pm
@ ole yeller……I will be there. Come by the tailgate spot again. There should be a bunch of us there. GO JACKETS !!!!
ole yeller
October 23rd, 2012
10:34 pm
Back at you pal. Go you HAIRY JACKETS.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 23rd, 2012
10:35 pm
I’m outta here. Have a good night, all
yeller bug
October 23rd, 2012
10:38 pm
There was commentary earlier on CPJ’s leadership style. There are General Lee’s and General Jackson’s of the world—both were great generals and they were miles apart in terms of style. Lee was loved, Jackson was feared and respected. Both delivered results. The head coach should lead as his natural personality suits. Subordinates should adjust their style to counterbalance the head coach. CMR is more a “General Lee” and should have an assistant coach to be the disciplinarian. CPJ is more like Jackson and his assistants should be more positive and encouraging. Having complementary leadership styles among coaches produces the best results.
Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial adviso
October 23rd, 2012
10:43 pm
Very well said yeller bug, a deep insight with truth.
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
10:47 pm
Should be a fun game from what I can tell….If our QB can hang on to the ball he is pretty dangerous but very turnover prone. So its a toss up on which one shows up….literally a bad read away from beating ND in South Bend, had a dude wide open late in the 4th quarter. How are your corners? b/c BYU has some big boys playing widout 6′3 and 6′4
BYU Fan in FL
October 23rd, 2012
10:56 pm
@ GT FAN
Skied last christmas in Mammoth CA, Parents live about 4 hours south of there havent been up the canyon to SB and Alta since 08….little misplaced for now but will hopefully fix that and get to some mountains at some point….grew up all my life by them in Cali.
Birmingham Jacket
October 23rd, 2012
11:21 pm
Johnson needs to step down and let Tech have a future!
1 4 GT
October 23rd, 2012
11:51 pm
Saw a clip of CPJ interview on TV news a short time ago. Re the non active roster guys “partying” on the sidelines….CPJ said they had a “Come to Jesus” about it. LOL….love to have been a fly on the wall for that meeting.
UGA = Yawn
October 24th, 2012
8:13 am
Seems like Laskey should be player of the game for Boston College.
Phys67
October 24th, 2012
9:09 am
Enter your comments here
Phys67
October 24th, 2012
9:11 am
Very well said Supersize…Agree completely…you couldn’t pay me to go to Athens for a game…my last trip over there was in the 70’s and it was bad then….
gt4ever
October 24th, 2012
9:55 am
One of the few Blue chip players on this squad and the coach is not on the same page….. Yikes… This coach is priceless!
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
10:25 am
How is it that Days, in his 3rd year at GT, and Lee, in his 2nd year, aren’t “on the same page” or aren’t “making the reads” yet?
Either one of 3 things:
1. Players can’t learn or refuse to learn (doubtful).
2. Coach can’t teach (doubtful).
3. Coach doesn’t feel the players are being good, obedient little soldiers (likely).
I wonder if CPJ’s style would survive in the NFL? uhhh….no.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
10:28 am
CPJ’s style works perfectly in HS, ga southern, and Navy; the kids realize that they aren’t going to the NFL, less talented, so they play with more heart.
When you get to big boy football (BCS conferences) and NFL level, the players need a different type of style. Hard nose doesn’t work. There are other options for players (transfers, trades, etc.). They don’t NEED to be there.
I guarantee you that Days and Lee have seriously contemplated transferring.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
10:35 am
Oh, and the folks saying “would you rather have a softy like Richt?”:
Umm look at his record. I’ll take a softy if we can average 10 wins a year. Richt gets it. Being a tough guy all the time, teaching kids lessons by not playing them, it’s a stupid mind game. It’s not coach vs. player. It’s coach AND player.
What CPJ fails to understand is that running the offense to perfection is required at Navy and GS because of the lower athleticism level. At THIS level, athleticism can make up for a lack of perfection, AND WIN YOU MORE GAMES.
5150 UOAD
October 24th, 2012
10:47 am
GT JOE……Richt had most of his WIN against the bad SEC teams. Richt doesn’t have to do MUCH to get really good recruits. UGa has more talent than 80% of the teams they play every year. Winning at UGa is not that hard. Winning the EAST or the SEC Title is and Richt sucks at that.
Coach Z
October 24th, 2012
10:54 am
I wonder GT JOE if you are more about winning on the field than winning in life. No I am not embodying Charlie Sheen, but I do feel like saying CPJ is trying to teach kids to be men. Yes, in all aspects of live, not just on the football field. With most of your points, GT JOE, I agree. However, on the topic of CPJ as a teacher/coach we disagree.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
10:57 am
UOAD: To start with, Richt is smart enough to put his best athletes on the field. Maybe if they were better coached, they could win some NCs.
CPJ doesn’t put his best athletes on the field in the first place. He puts in the guys that make the least mistakes, regardless of the outcome of the mistakes. Wrong philosophy.
For example, he’d rather play Tevin than Vad because Tevin make less “read mistakes”, but he doesn’t care about turnovers, INTs, and EXECUTION mistakes (underthrown passes, etc.), where Vad has no such mistakes and Tevin has many.
Backwards thinking.
Coach Z
October 24th, 2012
10:57 am
@1 4 GT. I’ve had a couple come to Jesus moments with collegues at all levels in life. Those momoents were odd and humiliating at the time, but after the dust settled a better respect for the job was instilled. We shall see.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
11:03 am
Coach Z: CPJ is graded on one thing: winning on the field. This IS all that matters; has an AD ever fired a coach because of what his players became after graduation? No. Conversely, has an AD ever kept a losing coach because he was a good mentor to the kids? No. Al Groh’s firing proves me right.
1 4 GT
October 24th, 2012
11:26 am
Coach Z…..Yeah, I’ve been in those meetings myself, on both sides, & in most cases, by far, all came out better for it. Joe loves to sling hash. He probably has never spanked his children, if he has any. Like so many nowadays, these kids need discipline & leadership in their lives if they are to grow into good, productive, contributing, responsible MEN. Timeouts teach a youngster nothing. This is much like physics. For every action, there is an equal & opposite reaction. Same in life. Discipline begets responsibility. Selah.
BYU Fan in FL
October 24th, 2012
11:34 am
From my perspective you guys have the “growing pain” of a new system even though it isnt that new. That is what Bronco (BYU Coach) went through his first couple of years. Once he got everyone on the same page program wise kids know what to expect. Not to mention some of the are pretty good. 5 out of 7 10 win seasons to show for it. Alot to be said for philosophy buy in. But it all goes back to the kind of kid you recruit BYU has a very small window they look at for obvious reasons….hence national championships will be very hard to come buy…good teams but not elite
1 4 GT
October 24th, 2012
11:39 am
GT Joe, I don’t believe, went to Tech. He does not come across as one that graduated from Tech. If he did, he either didn’t learn, or has forgotten, the Tech way. GT still operates under the “Total Person Concept”. That should be self explanatory. Tech succeeds, as do Tech people, with integrity and responsibility and doing things the right way, something my Dad began instilling in his 3 sons at a very young age. Joe’s way apparently does not. His rants here say otherwise, at least to me. I know nothing about Joe except what I see him saying here. Nor do I want to know anything more of Joe. In fact, I would just as soon he had never made his appearance here. He should fit in very well on the Georgie blogs.
1 4 GT
October 24th, 2012
11:40 am
Much the same here BYU in Fl!!
BYU Fan in FL
October 24th, 2012
11:44 am
My question to you then is does he not have the kind of kids he needs or he does and they think they are better than the system? Fatal flaw either way.
Paddy
October 24th, 2012
12:02 pm
GT@ 1736……if you have talent but don’t perform in practice you will not be playing on most teams not just GT. And being a ‘players coach’ is way over-rated imho. Both styles have worked well over the years.
5150 UOAD
October 24th, 2012
12:06 pm
Just called 790 and told then to read this blog. they keep saying they think GT fans are not going to ATHENS because we can’t win. That maybe true on some points but i told them it is not fun to go to Athens. i wouldn’t go even if i KNEW we would win and i could bring home a piece of the Hedges and pay to have a picture of me Urinating on RUSS now Uga IX. I have been to Auburn when they were top 10 and we were not supposed to have a shot. Same for VT and FSU but I ENJOYED the games and SPENDING my money and time at those games. That doesn’t happens in Athens.
MariettaMike
October 24th, 2012
12:57 pm
Somebody tell me why is GT favored in this game? BYU is bigger and faster. GT’s defensive is really, really bad. Does Vegas know something that I don’t?
That Guy
October 24th, 2012
12:59 pm
I think this is over stating the obvious. Coach Johnson is concerned about every opponents offense running against his wet paper bag defense. The GT offense is not the problem.
1 4 GT
October 24th, 2012
12:59 pm
5150….what was their response?? Since you started the phone calls, 680theFan needs calling too….Buck & Kincaid & Chuck & Chernoff both,,,,,especially buck…………………….
1 4 GT
October 24th, 2012
1:01 pm
Obviously so MariettaMike, obviously so!
Tech Troll 13
October 24th, 2012
1:14 pm
GT Joe must have been a heckuva youth coach, since he knows so much more then CPJ. Tell us more about your youth coach experience Joe, I’m sure we will be impressed with your resume.
Bottom line is you EARN your playing time on Rose Bowl field before you get on Grant Field.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
1:23 pm
Something tells me that “earning playing time on the practice field” isn’t enough for CPJ. He looks for full submission.
Wow, the blind faith you folks have in CPJ’s decision making is mind boggling. I mean, this is the guy who kep Al Groh for 3+ years?!?!
Just the fact that Tevin started AT ALL this season makes me think CPJ is wrong for the job. Don’t get me wrong, I love his offense, but his personnel decisions are questionable at best.
How on earth Snoddy, Days and Lee aren’t playing is beyond me. Snoddy has 9 carries on the season, and DNP in 5 games. WTF.
1 4 GT
October 24th, 2012
1:23 pm
Amen TT 13, Amen!!!!
Tech Troll 13
October 24th, 2012
1:36 pm
In addition to his youth coach experience, Joe is also a mind reader and he knows what goes on in closed practices.
No blind faith on my part, but I do give CPJ the benefit of the doubt. He’s the coach and at every practice. I trust his opinion more than yours.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
1:52 pm
Sheep Troll 13: I might not be a mind reader, but I’m also not a sheep.
My motto is “trust but verify”.
I wonder if you trusted Bill Lewis’ decisions because he knew better what was going on in “closed practices”. LOL.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
1:58 pm
Sheep Troll:
Did you trust Al Groh on all his decisions since he knew better what was going on in “closed practices”? OR were you a mind reader?
Tech Troll 13
October 24th, 2012
2:16 pm
GT Joe
When it became evident that CAG wasn’t going to get the job done, CPJ acted and fired him. Since you’re Captain Hindsight, I guess you knew it was the wrong hire.
I’ve been a season ticket holder for 30 years, so I was there when Bill Lewis was hired and fired, and only an idiot would compare CPJ with Bill Lewis.
BTW how may years have you had season tickets?
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
2:36 pm
Let’s see, you had season tix for 30 years, and I’M the idiot? LOL.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
2:49 pm
I see, sheep troll. You only trust CERTAIN coaches, because they see what goes on behind closed practices.
So apparently you didnt trust Bill Lewis? Why not? He sees more than you did. He has more experience coaching than you do.
Same goes for Al Groh. Did you not trust him because he was in the closed practices? Did you not trust his decision making on personnel decisions, substitutions?
Help me understand why you believe in CPJ more than these other coaches.
Tech Troll 13
October 24th, 2012
3:32 pm
I said only an idiot would compare CPJ to Bill Lewis. If you insist on doing that, then you must be an idiot.
You didn’t answer my question. How long have you had tickets? I’m a Tech man win or lose. My guess is you have “no skin in the game”.
Bill Lewis & CAG were fired for not performing.
CPJ has the highest winning percentage of any Tech coach in his first four years. He haw won an ACC Championship and taken us to a BCS bowl. He has a NC while at GSU and he won at Navy. What was your youth league record?
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
3:39 pm
Here’s your answer: Never had season tickets. /Never will. I prefer watching games in the comfort of my own home. But thanks for asking (I think).
You seem like a sheep who goes just to go. Like those iphone fanatics. Apple could stuff an iphone full of dog feces and they’d still be in line to buy it.
Hate to break it to you, but those season tix don’t make you any more knowledgeable of football. Just a little lighter in the pocket. But whatever floats your boat.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
3:41 pm
As for your youth league comments, what on earth are you talking about?
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
4:08 pm
UOAD: I AM voting. By witholding my money.
You and sheep boy, on the other hand, are what AD’s would call “dream fans”. Pay for tix regardless of the quality of product.
PS: your obsession with masturbating is getting creepy. This is like your 10th comment on masturbating.
THWG
October 24th, 2012
4:24 pm
PJ’s worried about BYU? When did that wakeup call arrive? Obviously he hasn’t been worried about much else for quite some time.
Tech Troll 13
October 24th, 2012
4:28 pm
GT Joe
As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You know nothing about me, but yet you have formed an opinion without facts. That is the same thing you have done about players that you haven’t seen play. I do agree that my tickets do not mean I know more than you about football, but it does mean I’m invested in the program and I do more than talk.
You can’t be “witholding” because of poor performance, if your statement that you “never will have tickets” is true.
You told me a few weeks ago your only coaching experience was in youth league. Unless that’s not true.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
4:37 pm
Troll
As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You know nothing about me, but yet you have formed an opinion without facts.
True I will never have season tix. But I do go to some games. The better the season, the more I’ll go see. This year, went to the Presby game. Can’t say I’m interested in going to any more games, unless Vad gets the start. If Vad starts, I’ll go see his games. Tevin? I already know that product. Not interested.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
4:42 pm
You know what I find interesting? When Vad gets to play, CPJ said there is “more energy”. I can see the crowd is definitely more energized, and the sidelines are more energized too (even visible on TV).
So the question is: Is the team sending a message that they want Vad to play over TW? Is the “la la land” comment by CPJ only when TW is in the game?
To me, it’s getting obvious. After the VT interception, a quick pan to TW on the sideline showed him ALONE. Same thing after the Miami misread on 4th down. Doesn’t seem like the team is rallying around TW.
I also find it interesting that TW sat out of practice yesterday, after those comments after the game about his “rhythm” when Vad comes in the game.
Is there trouble in paradise?
Tech Troll 13
October 24th, 2012
5:04 pm
I’m sure you could see on your TV that Vad ran zero TO plays in the first half. Our team is built around the TO. If you can’t do that, how can you be the starter?
I have no problem using VL in obvious passing situations, like the last two minutes of the half. He is a better passer than TW, even though his stats didn’t bear that out Saturday.
The rest of your comments were more “mind reading” and conjecture to support your argument. No facts to be found.
GT Joe
October 24th, 2012
5:11 pm
Troll: Here’s a fact that you have wrong; “our team is built around the TO”? No. This is a fallacy.
The TO is ONE play run out of our spread formation. In fact, CPJ has said on many occasions that the TO is run less than 20% of the time, sometimes less than 10% of the time. It all depends on how the game is going, what the defense is showing, etc.
The fact that Vad ran zero TO plays tells me nothing. You ASSUME he can’t run it because CPJ didn’t call the TO play. And you know what happens when you assume.
Tech Troll 13
October 24th, 2012
5:19 pm
Enough sparing, I’m going home, but if VL could run the TO he would be starting.
A-mazed
October 24th, 2012
6:50 pm
Well, well. Gt Joe does not go to games, but “watches” them at home. He almost surely does not go to practice. So, Joe, exactly how is it you go about analyzing the relative capabilities of the players? Becaise it sure can’t be from their on field performance. Days is a fine blocker, but he is a fumble machine. Lee has obvious talent, but it is clear he has little skill making the reads in the TO. And that IS the offense we run.
I don’t know what you see on your TV, but it must look very different than what I see at the games. Or you are delusional.
dry dirt road
October 24th, 2012
7:49 pm
recalling Samoan DT for Iowa that terrorized Tech in Orange Bowl; BYU digs West Coast Samoans too
Game
October 24th, 2012
9:41 pm
The BYU guys are big but a little slower that your typical guys. Spread the field, run wide often, wear them down, keep the ball for long drives. Then their QB/offense will be on the field very little. Also their D will be tired by the 4th quarter. Keep the pedal down no matter what.
dry dirt road
October 25th, 2012
8:32 am
What is a fire-zone blitz? This is the first I’ve ever heard of it, and I’m 60.
dry dirt road
October 25th, 2012
8:34 am
Game, that’s how Tech plays anyway.
dry dirt road
October 25th, 2012
8:40 am
Maybe alot of West Coast hs players want to play at BYU because of the Mormon history of having alot of wives, which some still do, one guy up in Canada specifically who I found out about on national tv. The male gets plenty of females to cook food, wash dishes and clothes, do all the household chores. That frees him up to do the outside chores. I recall an interview on national tv with one of the wives who was asked how a wife gets to go to bed with the husband that night, and she said the wives draw straws.
BYU Fan in FL
October 25th, 2012
8:44 am
On the whole you might be right about the bigger and maybe a little slower. But there is one guy you will need to look out for and he is starting to get alot of press…..6′6 270 Ziggy Ansah DE. Dude didnt know how to put his pads on 3 years ago. Its been fun to watch him come along….started out with the BYU Track team and ran i think a sub 21 sec 200….thats pretty quick…just raw though
BYU Fan in FL
October 25th, 2012
8:49 am
And there is the Polygamy joke I told you guys was coming a couple days ago…..See I called it!!!!! (For GT FAN, UOAD, & 1 4 GT)
dry dirt road
October 25th, 2012
8:54 am
I think I see why players want to go to BYU. For one thing, it’s nice and cool to cold there in Utah. Look at how popular Boise State is now. And scenic in the snow. For another thing, the BYU players get educated and then maybe take off to Canada to out in the sticks and have their polygamous lifestyle where it might be legal. They just want a college level education to help them make it in life, maybe meet some coeds and marry all of them in Canada, take them up there as a commune at least, and instruct them to keep quiet about marriage, telling anybody who talks to them that they are only in a commune of people of the same religion.
BYU Fan in FL
October 25th, 2012
8:58 am
You got it DDR….hit the nail on the head
That is exactly why kids go to BYU. Your right about the being a nice place all jokes aside.
Gary
October 25th, 2012
10:10 am
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Gary
October 25th, 2012
10:12 am
Sorry, Browser error. As a dawg fan I do like what Johnson has to say about the players. It is a priviledge to wear the uniform. Stand up and support your team, don’t sit on the bench wondering what your going to have for dinner. That is where players go to rest. If youare not playing you can stand.
1 4 GT
October 25th, 2012
12:12 pm
Y’all talking about why kids go to BYU & other schools in Utah is kinda amusing. No one has mentioned this as yet, so I will. There are reasons not to go too. Y’all remember a couple of years ago or so the round ball player at BYU that was expelled for having “relations” with his GF (a girl anyway). In the reports I saw in the news, the kids sign/take a pledge that they will abstain from having “relations” while they are attending college there. BIG disadvantage to recruiting if you ask me, Selah.
BYU Fan in FL
October 25th, 2012
12:53 pm
14 GT….that one got the most press because it was right before the NCAA tournament when Jimmer was still in school. One other one that is worse then that is BYU’s all time leading rusher going into his senior season Harvey Unga was dismissed from school for the same reason PRIOR to his senior season….never stepped foot on the field again. Its a strict code my Dad went there….hence my tie to them