Paul Johnson says Vad Lee could see expanded role

When Georgia Tech fans have called for freshman quarterback Vad Lee, coach Paul Johnson has noted that starter Tevin Washington has played well and Lee hasn’t been good in practice.

Lee had a good week of practice so he got to play more against Boston College on Saturday. He ended up playing so well that Johnson sounds as if he’s considering expanding Lee’s role.

Lee led the Jackets to touchdowns on two of his three first-half possessions and flashed the talent that made him a top recruit for Johnson in 2011. Washington, who is well-versed in Johnson’s triple-option offense, also played well during Tech’s 37-17 victory at Bobby Dodd Stadium.

Johnson said having two effective quarterbacks is “a good problem to have.”

“We will see how we go,” Johnson said after Tech’s 37-17 victory at Bobby Dodd Stadium. “Tevin is the guy and as Vad comes along, he comes along. He has a lot of ability If he continues to practice well he will get more opportunities. It’s not the end of the world to have two good quarterbacks.”

Johnson said he used two quarterbacks when he was the offensive coordinator at Hawaii. He said the strategy can allow the starter to get a breather while the second quarterback has fresh legs against a tired defense.

Washington said he “felt fine the whole game” and believes coming out of the game disrupts his flow.

“I feel like it does get you out of rhythm when you go in and out of the game,” he said. “That’s with any position. When you are in a rhythm, when you get pulled out you kind of lose that rhythm and the flow of the game.”

Lee led Hillside High School to a 16-0 record and earned the AP North Carolina player of the year in 2010. After sitting out as a red shirt in 2011, he had played in four of Tech’s six games before Saturday.

Johnson has said he wants to give Lee more playing time but, in addition to citing Lee’s poor practices, he didn’t want to put Lee in situations where there’s pressure for Tech to score. Tech led Boston College 14-3 when Lee first entered the game Saturday and he promptly led them on a 10-play, 57-yard touchdown drive.

Lee converted a short third-down run during the drive and finished it with a play that showed off his athletic talent. Facing a third-and-11, Lee weaved through the left side of BC’s defense for a 24-yard touchdown run.

Lee faked out Eagles defensive end Kieran Borcich, ran around cornerback Bryce Jones, and sidestepped tackle attempts by linebacker Tim Joy and safety C.J. Jones to get in the end zone.

“At first I was just thinking get enough for a first down to keep the drive going,” Lee said. “Then I saw it was wide open to the outside and all I had to do was beat one man. Then a bunch of people tried to come tackle me.”

Lee played two more series in the half. The second ended with a touchdown and the third was thwarted by a dropped pass and a missed field goal.

One play after a short Boston College punt, Lee lofted a soft pass to Anthony Autry along the right sideline fort a 45-yard touchdown and a 28-3 Tech lead. It was the second touchdown pass of the season for Lee, who also had an 82-yard score against Presbyterian College.

Later in the period, Lee started a drive with a 44-yard pass to Tony Zenon that set up the Jackets at Boston College’s 15-yard line. On the next play Lee passed to wide receiver Darren Waller in the front of the end zone but Waller dropped the ball.

Lee played two series in the second half and didn’t fare as well. He fumbled on first down of a three-and-out series late in the third quarter and loss three yards on a third-down run in the final period.

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SSI Oldtimer

October 20th, 2012
8:29 pm

Let’s build on this victory in the second half of our season. Congratulations to our team.

The operative word in this article is...

October 20th, 2012
8:56 pm


Hopefully, he will not play any more than he did today…”Lee played two series in the second half and didn’t fare as well. He fumbled on first down of a three-and-out series late in the third quarter and loss three yards on a third-down run in the final period.” – D’OH…


October 20th, 2012
9:03 pm

justin justin thomas, y’all.


October 20th, 2012
10:28 pm

Vad has the talent CPJ just needs to let him play more. The future of Tech’s offense looks good with Vad running the show. GOOOOOOOOOO Tech.


October 20th, 2012
10:29 pm

VAD LEE comes in and in 2 series we have 2 touchdowns the CPJ puts captain numb skull back in. I dont get it Washington can’t pass and Vad is our future so why not play him all the time.

Jacket Detective

October 20th, 2012
10:36 pm

Duke acts like they won they national championship by becoming bowl elligible and beating UNC.
I won’t be laughing if they beat us too though.


October 20th, 2012
10:38 pm

Damon Mitchell, Yall!


October 20th, 2012
10:47 pm

Vroom: Vad was also put in during the second half and wasn not affective. Tevin led us down the field and put the game away late. Vad is unquestionably an amazing athlete and gifted thrower; however I have not seen him make good reads under the center, running the ball. He hasn’t pitched the ball much, and doesn’t get much yards running under center. Bottom line, Tevin is our best QB and Vad has some learning to do, and considering this season can still be salvaged, we have to put in the QB who gives us the best chance to win. While he has flaws, it is undoubtably Tevin.

yeller bug

October 20th, 2012
10:53 pm

We need to improve to win next week, but this was a good rebound game.

Come on TW: 1. Be a team player and 2. Don’t let a reporter lead you by his/her question. Get out of rhythm? You should have been out of rhythm the whole game because our D actually made stops on 3rd down and forced 5 punts. Normally your rhythm would be standing on the sidelines watching our opponents drive down the field. I like playing two QBs—still should play Vad out of the pistol as his primary formation–he has next spring to get better on the TO. Short passes to A backs where they can make a play shows promise.

We have no pass rush—I guess a simplified D means we took out any and all blitzes.

Was Days hurt? WHY WHY WHY do we have a converted QB to A back and not use him for the A back pass—we had two receivers open–one by 10 yds, the other by 5 and Zenon (who played well) throws a pass that was almost end over end.

CPJ blames a backup holder for our kicking woes? That’s another thing that 5 people can practice and become proficient at. We need a special teams coach—oh we got one—this should never be an issue. We do this next week, we lose.

Finally, we need some focus in the 4th QTR. Try to bury your opponent. Don’t let off the gas—mash it hard. We outscore our opponents in every QTR but the last one—let’s try to change that.

1 4 GT

October 20th, 2012
11:13 pm

I wholeheartedly agree with yeller bug. Especially the keep your foot on the gas stuff. When you’ve got your opponent down & your foot on their throat, smash ‘em, kick ‘em & stomp ‘em until they no fight left in them. If anyone wants to call it running up the score, who cares.


October 20th, 2012
11:19 pm

Bostic needs to used as a reciever more offten since he is under used as a back (should start). He seem to be able to adjsut to the ball in flight and make the catch. better than some of the others


October 20th, 2012
11:19 pm

If we don’t start getting more pressure up front on the D line, we’re gonna get lit-up by QBs in future games. The one at Dook and A Murray are two that come to mind.


October 20th, 2012
11:22 pm

I believe it was Bostic who threw the A Back pass.


October 20th, 2012
11:43 pm

Who cares what Paul Johnson has to say…other than “I’m quitting”.


October 20th, 2012
11:54 pm

I know I’ve said this before, but the problem with our team has less to do with lack of talent than lack of character. Their focus(when they show focus), seems to be misplaced. They seem focused on winning when what they should focus on is playing to a standard of excellence. Winning should just be a pleasant byproduct of playing to the absolute best of the ability that God gifted them with. That is a character deficiency that was most likely developed long before they came to Tech. If Johnson can correct this misplaced focus issue, the lapses that show up whenever they get a lead will stop, or at least, occur much less often. And since the overall goal of the Institute should be to turn out the best young men, not just the best football players, this change of philosophy would benefit them in whatever field they find themselves in after they graduate.

yeller bug

October 21st, 2012
12:06 am

My apologies to Zenon then—the greater point was we have a player tailor-made for that play that we’ve run twice and have not used him. Bostic did make a great clutch catch—all the more reason to have him receiving and not passing.

BYU played ND tough—BYU had only 69 yds rushing so they don’t have much offense. They will be the toughest Defense we play all year. I think ND is overrated—we’ll see next week as they play OK.

If we score 28 points next week, we’ll win the game. Gotta fix the FG team.

North Avenue Rules

October 21st, 2012
4:49 am

Can someone please answer this? Why not configure the offense to leverage Vad’s skill set? What would be the problem with this? Would it be that difficult for our offense to run some sort of pistol formation with options embedded?


October 21st, 2012
7:26 am

North Avenue Rules, I agree and think CPJ will have to do this to some extent in the future to have long term success at TECH. Not only will it produce a more balanced offensive attack, it will also allow the defense to prepare better for what they will see in opposing offenses during spring and preseason practice.

Lee looked pretty good huh? He definitely brings electricity to the game atmosphere.

William Casey

October 21st, 2012
7:44 am

Vad Lee’s talent is evident. I’m excited about the future with him at QB. That being said, learning good practice habits and showing leadership there is important to a QB’s development. It’s good to see Lee coming around.


October 21st, 2012
7:53 am

We have installed the pistol and ran it twice yesterday. Our pistol implementation also has multiple options to run/pass.


October 21st, 2012
8:17 am

Gotsis looked real good the last series.
Vad was asesome, that soft passs was a bullet compared to what we are used to seeing
Autry is a nice WR, very smooth.

Big Ol Stinger

October 21st, 2012
8:19 am

No way TW gets in to the end zone like Lee on that 25 yard run yesterday. And Lee’s passes actually have some zip on them, spirals and on target.

William Casey’s right, his talent is evident. The season’s over, these are just scrimmages with uniforms now. Let’s see more Vad, CPJ.

Like the old SNL skit, “We need more cow bell”, except “We need more Vad Lee”.


October 21st, 2012
9:18 am

Somehow I get the feeling that CPJ would just rather line it up and try to run over people than run anything flashy or throw the ball. Why else did he go into that ball control offense in the 3rd quarter and keep the ball on the ground? He may be able to do that against BC or Presbyterian, but that aint gonna work against BYU, UNC, Duke or UGA (well maybe it will against UGA). Overall I think this team has a decent aount of talent, but man we stil are making a lot of mistakes in the games.

Flak Jacket

October 21st, 2012
9:45 am

Stumpknocker hit the nail on the head.Better get busy working with this defense or the season could get uglier.Vad Lee looks like a real QB that could really help this football team.There is no need to feel sorry for TW,he should graduate from GT,so lets get rolling in the right direction.

Same Old

October 21st, 2012
9:45 am

Bottom line… Our players always quit when they get 21 points ahead.
Johnson has paid no attention to the defense in over two years.
He’s more interested in his Titleist than an ACC Title!
No more wins this year! Duke is having the year we want.
They’ll beat us to. Too bad!
Bring in George Godsey as HC next year!

Crazy Robert

October 21st, 2012
9:54 am

It was good to see the O have long sustained drives which kept the D on the sideline, so when they were in they were fresh and somewhat rested. Sure seems to make a difference.



October 21st, 2012
10:00 am

Tevin should have been benched LAST YEAR. Paul Johnson is a numbskull. This is like Chan playing Reggie Ball for four years.

We’ve got a RG3 look alike who is behing benched in favor of the teacher’s pet. Change the damn offense to the pistol, start Vad and we’ll score 50+ per game.

Jacket Detective

October 21st, 2012
10:25 am

I agree most with Tech4Life at 10:47 PM yesterday.
I think what I like most concerning what Johnson brings to the table is his handling of QBs.
His handling of Vad is masterfull.
He is allowing our future star to show his skills while also showing (2nd half) why Tevin is the man for now.
The cries for Vad decreased when BC pulled to within 14.
I disagree with all willing to tank this season to develop Vad.
But I am not against at all more and more auditions for next year.
These disagreements in fan bases are common.
I remember one (1970?) between the senior Jack Williams who was the better QB and Eddie MacAshan who was the greater talent but not ready.
Then coach Bud Carson handled the two QB problem with much less skill than CPJ is now.

dry dirt road

October 21st, 2012
10:25 am

Reason he got tackled at L O S and fumbled there was because he took snap and ran to side where traffic is. If he took pistol snap, that would have been similar to his high school plays where he made long bombs downfield. Just imagine QB receiving snap already in pocket, as if he was teleported there from L O S.

dry dirt road

October 21st, 2012
10:36 am

Tech really looked clean yesterday with the unis nice and light looking. With the field nice and green on HD tv, and mid 70’s temps or a little lower, it was ideal conditions for a Tech game. Maybe Tech played better because of the cooler temps. Look at how well Boise State is now. Scenic state, potatos grown there and cooler temps, attractions to hs players or anybody who likes the outdoors and needs realistic temps.

Jacket Detective

October 21st, 2012
10:37 am

Vad might put up 50 vs terrible BC D but I doubt it.
Had Vad started vs VT up there, we lose big and his confidence hurt.
Much easier to look good against crummy defense when u come into the game with a lead and have very good field position.
CPJ is not going to drop his offense, few if any head coaches will unless they bring in a new O coordinator.
Vad has three more years here.
There is no need to rush the young man and risk hurting his confidence.
Uga may have gotten a mental edge on Reggie Ball when he started the archrival game as a freshman without the star RB to depend on.
Reggie was not as terrible as some like to pretend now.
He had the job for 4 years because we had no one better.

Jacket Detective

October 21st, 2012
10:42 am

I think both Reggie Ball at Tech and Chris Wix at FSU were done a disservice in having to start their freshman years.
Boo birds and critics abounded by their senior years though no one had beaten either out during the 4 years.
Yea keep telling yourself coaching bias got them the job.

C'mon, guys...

October 21st, 2012
10:45 am

“North Avenue Rules’ is just another name for Vad’s MOTHER, otherwise known as GT Joe…just a new moniker on this site…

dry dirt road

October 21st, 2012
10:45 am

I sure do sense improved play now that Tech said bye to Groh on bye week, a bye bye, approach approach conflict, where Tech got to approach both byes as favorabble and able to be approached. Also, recalling when Rock Perdoni carried Ann Margaret in his arms when she visited Rose Bowl field during practice, and photo taken of him carrying her in AJC. She was star of “Bye, Bye Birdie” back then in about 1971. Perhaps coincidence of bye bye means Tech should hire Perdoni as D Coordinator. He also played in Canada where there are cooler temps, and might be able to bring cooler Canadian temps to Tech again like in ‘71-2 season when he played.

dry dirt road

October 21st, 2012
10:46 am

favorable; approach approach conflict in Social Psychology taught at Tech in my major then from ‘69-73


October 21st, 2012
11:19 am

we couldn’t put pressure on a statue!

gt life

October 21st, 2012
11:29 am

Vad may not practice good so what………He seems to me to be one of those players who is a game time (players)…to not see another Tevin lob pass or floating under throw pass is a great plus…..Vad throws bullets and gives us both passing and running options….not to mention he will be here next year….Lets get aboard the VAD LEE TRAIN……bout time

1 4 GT

October 21st, 2012
11:30 am

NAR….you need to CPJ about that VL option you asked “us” about! Sounds good to me, and many others I’m sure, but we can’t do it. As Vad gains confidence & playing time, I hope & imagind CPJ will implement something like what you ask about.

gt life

October 21st, 2012
11:32 am

hey Jacket Detective have you even watched any games….Tevin Chokes about every game with mental issues…..Vad has always been a winner…..unlike Tevin

Jacket Detective

October 21st, 2012
11:48 am

@gt life.
season tickets for 4 years and long time fan.
Vad not ready to run the offense and that was obvious in the 2nd half.
Momentum changes due to CPJ’s terrible hire of Groh who won’t blitz.
Groh’s D cost us bowl game, VT and Miami’s games.
The demoralized team that lost to MTSU was the result of the three blown games.
With a relaxed opponent QB from lack of blitzing, the other team is rolling in OT and we are not.
Did Bartkowski choke vs Dallas in 1980 playoff game?
No just like TEch did, the Falcons took foot off the throttle and the team proceded to fall apart from just the one failure, not the three we have had.
Vad is very good when allowed to throw.
CPJ will not toss his offense to tun all passing offense.
Question remains whether that approach would work against better teams.
BC is the ACC cellar dweller and Vad looked good after the lead was established and given very good field position.
I am eager for his next three years but no need to rush him this year.
CPJ bringing him along slowly to build his confidence.
Rather than turn him into A Murray.
Why doesn’t Murray have confidence in the big games?


October 21st, 2012
12:01 pm

@gt life: Our offense is affective because defenses have to respect the dive, QB keeper, pitch, and pass. With Vad in under center they only have to respect the run and pass. Vad has showed that he is an amazing athlete and will be a star over the next three years. He’s also showed that he needs the spring and summer to work more on his reads. If you honestly watched the game, you’d see his three big plays were thanks to his feet and broken coverage. Also, the big plays he had were not read plays. In the second half, he had to make reads and didn’t make good ones. Tevin is our starting QB.

...Take The Wheel

October 21st, 2012
12:16 pm

Good win! I got everything I wanted!!!!! They tried my flee flicker!!!!!!!!!! …although he didn’t use Days for the pitch throw. Hopefully he’ll try it again using someone else! In fact I don’t recall seeing Days? Is he out?

Vads throws we’re like lasers in the first half!!!!! Still a few missing pieces – but a couple of his drives were really exciting to watch. Still wanna see JT next year before I get on the Lee train. But I think PJ should stay with this plan. Rotating QBs, added a few plays, went for more field goals (WHATS UP WITH OUR KICKERS). TW managed the clock effectively in the last quarter and had an overall good game. But we need to work on maintaining momentum with the lead. Keeping our foot on their necks! Of course BYU will be a bigger test next week. We’ll see how we (including Lee) really match up against a tougher team. .

Defense was still wobbly down the stretch. But they too looked better overall. We will see next week!!!!!

…..guys brace yourselves for the revenge of GTJoe! He’s definitely going to be on steroids this week!

Jacket Detective

October 21st, 2012
12:42 pm

I’m braced.
Tevin Washington just joined Joe Hamilton in extremely select company.
That would be the 2000 yards rushing, 2500 yards passing club.
No one else made a comment about it.
Of course not.
Thanks Ken for the info.
And thank you Tevin for your steady QB play (proved by the numbers or else Tech just sucks at producing QBs huh?)
You should sue your defense for lack of support.
Not to mention the special teams that has missed three FGs in both the BC game and the last bowl game.
I know u r too much of a team guy to think that way.
However I am not.
U folks want Tevin under the microscope?
Well then everyone, coaches and players past and present, go under it too.
Oh yes Tevin’s first game thrown into a tough situation, he rallies the team against a top D (certainly not BC wimps of yesterday but VT) to tie.
If our ST’s are not missing FGs, they are allowing long returns.
VT returns kickoff for TD.
Guess u forgot that one too.


October 21st, 2012
1:20 pm

I really don’t think you can say Waller dropped that pass from Lee. The pass was low and thrown too far out in front of him. Could he have caught it? Yes, but it would have been a great catch. He barely got a hand on it and it was a hard thrown pass about a foot off the ground.

1 4 GT

October 21st, 2012
1:55 pm

I find myself more in agreement with JD than GTJ!!!

Jacket Detective

October 21st, 2012
2:26 pm

Thanks 1 4 GT.
Ken has handed me this 2000 yard rushing 2500 yard passing club (meant both ways) to use on Tevin’s critics.
The lack of respect he gets is why top recruits pick Bama and all the football factories.
Go to Tech and have defense and STs take turns losing games and then the dumb fans blame u.
At Bama, LSU, Florida and others, u can have bad games and with very good Ds, no one notices.

5150 UOAD

October 21st, 2012
2:53 pm

What VAD doesn’t do well is the TO down the line to short-side of the field then make the pitch.
Vad doesn’t arc well to keep a good space to the A-back to make a pitch and allow the A-back to make a cut up field. Vad runs it so flat to the line he often runs too far forcing the A-back to catch the pitch on a bad angle sending him out of bounds. The A-back is left little space to make a move and stay in bounds to head up field.
That is what I’ve seen.


October 21st, 2012
4:02 pm

I would just like to start seeing some quick slants develop with the offense. I would stop all those LB’s from creeping up to the line of scrimmage. A few of those and they will stop. The running game with benefit. The “D” played a little better. I was disappointed with the lack of pressure on the QB still. I would like to see some stunt blitzes and blitz disguises. But considering you have asked to players to change up the defense scheme in a matter of a week.. It’s getting there.


October 21st, 2012
4:02 pm

TW is a good technician for running the TO. Doesn’t usually make too many mistakes. Lee has more raw potential, but as a RSF, the potential to make more mistakes also. I don’t fault CPJ for bringing him along slowly. TW doesn’t deserve to be benched. Regardless of the record, he has played his guts out for this team. And with even an average defense, TW would have won a lot more games than he has.


October 21st, 2012
4:11 pm

Ramblingbuzz and Jacket Detective have both said it perfectly. Yes Vad is talented and can make plays, but he’s not ready. Vad had the chance yesterday to quite possibly bench Tevin for the remainder of the year when he came in during “crunch time” as Joe and others would say, and instead went three and out. Then Tevin came in ended all debate on who should be the starting QB.