Bohannon sees ‘arrows up’ for Lee
Some extra stuff that didn’t make the notes posted Tuesday night…
1. A few answers in full from quarterbacks and B-backs coach Brian Bohannon about backup quarterback Vad Lee:
“I think he’s working through it. I think he had probably the best day he’s had in a while today. He had a really good practice today. Other than that, I think he’s got to come out every day and try to win the job. We talked about it today and I think he came out and had a really good practice today. Last week, it wasn’t bad, it wasn’t good. It was just O.K.”
“He’s a redshirt freshman. He’s getting a lot better. He had a really good day today and I foresee him right now, he’s going to do nothing but have arrows up from here on out.”
On Justin Thomas’ progress (Thomas worked with the second team last week, with Lee working with the first string to give starter Tevin Washington a break):
“He’s still learning but he’s quick and he’s fast. He can make some plays even when things don’t go like they should. Pretty smart. Picks up on things pretty quick, so I thought it was good for him to get some work in. It’s hard to simulate just going through drills. And he still goes through all my drills. I was pleased that he could get some work in.”
2. I’m working on a story for Thursday’s paper about the offensive line and its performance thus far. The offense as a whole has produced, although the B-back numbers are again down, which is typically either a function of either the backs or the line. Offensive line coach Mike Sewak was more focused on handling defensive line stunts and blitzes. He said he has been disappointed by the line’s play when Tech has been forced into obvious passing situations.
“I thought we’d be better at it,” he said. “We have not. We have not achieved that.”
The stunts and blitzes were a focus during the bye week and also in Tuesday’s practice. Also, Sewak said that center Jay Finch has been inconsistent and that the move of Will Jackson from guard to tackle has been an upgrade.
“There’s always room for improvement, but he’s done some really good things at times, and other times, he’s done some ‘What the heck?’” Sewak said of Finch.
In case you missed it…
Notes: Tech seeking second-half rally
Johnson on defense: ‘We don’t need 80 calls’
Tech notes: Washington firm at quarterback
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GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
12:14 pm
Basically, Vad can turn it on at will.
A bad week of practice last week? Hard to go 100% every day when you are demoralized by sitting behind an inferior QB.
George Stein
October 17th, 2012
12:16 pm
Seems like Coach Bo is good cop to Johnson’s bad.
frustrated fan
October 17th, 2012
12:40 pm
to anybody that complains about tevin, hes not the reason were losing and clealry vad would not be a better option at this point
GT Fan
October 17th, 2012
12:47 pm
Vad ran with 1st team, JT ran with 2nd team … to give TW a break? A break for what? Is Vad going to get definite playing time vs. BC?
And I like what Coach says about J.Thomas!
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
12:50 pm
Joe’s baaaaaaaaaaaaaack! With his usual commentary. Funny that he made a comment yesterday about the excuse of the defense not playing good costing us wins. Said that excuse had been ridden to death. Golly gee! What does he think he has done all season long about Tevin losing the games. Maybe the rest of us think he has not only ridden that horse to death, but beat it to death too. UMMMM! Methinks he is a jilted exGF of Tevin trying to dirty the waters.
Ken Sugiura
October 17th, 2012
12:50 pm
George – a little bit, although Bohannon can be unsparingly critical. I think his assessment of Lee’s practice work last week is more or less the same as Johnson. not good, not bad.
GT Joe – You’ve been on quite the crusade. I don’t understand this part – do you think johnson, whose job depends on him winning and who is almost pathologically competitive, is playing a quarterback he knows to be worse than his backup?
WnE
October 17th, 2012
12:50 pm
The offense as a whole has produced, although the B-back numbers are again down, which is typically either a function of either the backs or the line. Offensive line coach Mike Sewak was more focused on handling defensive line stunts and blitzes. He said he has been disappointed by the line’s play when Tech has been forced into obvious passing situations.
“I thought we’d be better at it,” he said. “We have not. We have not achieved that.”
________
If the veteran OL still cannot pass block in yr/ 5 with veterans and “watch list” guys then that means that CPJ is recruiting sub-standard Recruts for the OL and they get exposed when they have to pass block in obvious pass downs and have to rely on PURE TALENT.
Once again WnE has been proven correct about CPJ, week by week WnE s proven to be correct in mostly all of his predictions hile my detractors have to remain silent or IN HIDING.
Ken Sugiura
October 17th, 2012
12:52 pm
GT Fan – to spare him the wear of practice. lee could play against boston college, but that wasn’t the point of running him with the first string during the bye.
TeknocratNOTdemokrat
October 17th, 2012
12:52 pm
FF, your point is well made; the downside though, is that we got used to having a leader in the Nesbitt, and we just don’t seem to have that in Tevin. I have no issues w/Tevin as a student and as a person; he seems to have all the athletic tools he needs w/the ecxception of sound judgement in critical situations…that’s the issue.
George Stein
October 17th, 2012
1:03 pm
Fair point, Ken.
Truth
October 17th, 2012
1:09 pm
GT Joe, I wish there was a like button to your first comment.
chas_jacket
October 17th, 2012
1:23 pm
Ken, thanks for the update. Any opinion on how important it is to get to a bowl game vs giving Vad more playing time and experience this year? Not saying that Vad couldn’t get us bowl eligible this year, but CPJ may believe we have a better chance at a bowl with Tevin at the helm.
AMG
October 17th, 2012
1:27 pm
Ken – Yes I think CPJ is playing a qb he believes is better and even though there is a mountain of evidence to support Lee is better CPJ is too stubborn to admit he might possible ever be wrong, even if he is. Tevin is HORRIBLE on 4th and short, I mean HORRIBLE. He looks panicked half the time and makes as many mistakes as any freshman would make. Lee should start especially now that the season is all but over. Lee will benefit from playing time, therefore GT will benefit long term. The only reason to start Tevin is if Lee goes in and plays horrible and then Days goes in plays horrible, then maybe Tevin should play.
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
1:29 pm
I can assure “Carnack” no one is “IN HIDING” from him. Just “IN IGNORE”!
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
1:31 pm
Ken, do I think CPJ is purposely playing an inferior QB? No.
Do I think he is wrong on his judgment of Vad (and Tevin)? Yes.
Coaches can be wrong, believe it or not. Coaches make bad personnel decisions all the time, and get fired because of them sometimes.
And if he ISN”T wrong on Vad, then we Tech fans have nothing to look forward to next year but .500 or worse ball. Does anyone believe this?
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
1:32 pm
HMMMMMMMM…..I wonder if Joe & “Carnack” are one & the same….one spews hatred of CPJ’s abilities & the other spews hatred of TW’s abilities. “Weerrryyyy ent’resting”!
chas_jacket
October 17th, 2012
1:35 pm
1 4 , assume the remark about Carnack referenced something weenie said. Did watching the debate last night get you in such a masochistic mood that you actually read his post?
SS loves Obama
October 17th, 2012
1:37 pm
@chas_jacket….1 4 Gt seems a little cranky! Lol…
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
2:10 pm
What is a good lotion for sensitive skin?
Todd
October 17th, 2012
2:26 pm
CPJ thinks TW is better at one thing – running the Triple Option, and since that is the basis of his entire offense, then that is why TW starts. Doesn’t matter to CPJ that *PASSING* or threat of passing is what got us back in the Miami game. As soon as he squats on nothing but option plays, the O goes south against any decent defense – see: Iowa, VT, Miami, Utah, Air Force, etc.
William Casey
October 17th, 2012
2:29 pm
@WnE: I don’t care if you are right. You’re what used top be called “a crashing bore.” As Herman’s Hermits put it in “Henry VIII”… “Second verse, same as the first.” And, so on.
Einstein
October 17th, 2012
2:31 pm
PJ needs to play Vad Lee A LOT MORE at a minimum. He’s taken steps to try to improve and energize the Defense and now it’s time for Vad to get a whole lot more playing time and be given the chance to show what he can do on game day. Not only would this energize the Offense, but it will put people in the seats and will give him the experience he needs to begin the 2013 season.
My guess is that Vad has a lot to learn about how to fully run the option; however, how the heck do you think people best learn their job? It’s called on the job training – just do it. And quite frankly, we don’t want to be starting the season next year with a QB with virtually no game experience. Giving Vad Lee more and more playing time will not only provide him needed experience running PJ’s offense but I think it will help the team win now, too!
My take on Tevin is that he has played much better this year than expected. He’s pretty good at running the offense (when he actually pitches the ball instead of holding onto it for 1 yard gains) and occasionally throws a good pass. Far too often, however, he under-throws the receivers, keeps the ball when he should pitch and does not lead the team when we need a spark, a leader to drive the ball down the other team’s throats. Although I like and respect him, he’s really just a basic, mediocre QB (which is certainly better than a bad QB). If we hadn’t gone conservative against Miami, if Tevin had played with more energy the last couple of possessions instead of being content to run keepers for no gain, if if if …..)
It’s time to put the ball in Vad Lee’s hands, maybe time to really roll out the shotgun passing game, time to experiment with the guy who will be the team leader and possibly its star for the next several years. He’s got the arm, the speed and the talent; now all he needs is the game day experience. Who knows, when this happens, amid the expected learning mistakes, maybe we will see the QB that can take over a game and pull out those important wins! And maybe it will open up the offense to the point of where we actually will outscore the opponents!
Speaking of next year, maybe ………… the tandem of Vad & Justin ………. talk about keeping defenses on their toes!!!!!
PLAYMAKER
October 17th, 2012
2:36 pm
One thing about CBB and CPJ they act like you have to be perfect to play for them but the records don’t indicate perfect play. I wonder about CBB if he is a true QB Coach? He is a good Coach and seems to be CPJ rigt hand man but is he a TRUE QB Coach? I don’t know I just know from the outside looking in GT QB’s have terible footwork and throwing habits. Maybe its not his fault? Maybe it is about recruiting?
Max
October 17th, 2012
2:40 pm
Fact: The defense has been terrible and is 90% to blame when it comes to the reason we are losing ball games, but that doesn’t mean that we can’t look at other areas that we obviously need to improve.
I don’t understand how people can watch TW play QB and leave the game feeling satisfied. The interception verse MTSU should be enough to make anyone question how a 5th year SR can make that throw. Sometimes kids can surprise you, so why not give VL some legit reps in a game and see if it changes things?
Also, for the record, TW is a great kid and I wish him nothing but the best in life and football.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
2:41 pm
Agree playmaker. CPJ wants perfection in practice, but apparently game day perfection is not as important. Otherwise Tevin would have been benched long ago.
juvenal
October 17th, 2012
2:45 pm
think Vad would be better at 4th & 1?
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
2:47 pm
@juvenal…Vad is better at 4th & 1 and 4th & 11.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
2:50 pm
Could Vad be worse than TW on 4th and 1? Is it even POSSIBLE to be worse?
SansWorld
October 17th, 2012
2:51 pm
Half the people posting here are right, the other half are wrong
Max
October 17th, 2012
2:56 pm
@sansworld – it seems that about 80% of people are in agreement, so I think your percentages off.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
3:15 pm
Like I said on here before, I’m gonna laugh if PJ is just buying time this year so Justin Thomas can start next year. And people please get it through your heads, Vad DOESN’T run the t.o. effectively enough to play and the o-line CAN’T pass block enough to put him in as a passer. People obviously forget the time Vad came in during the Presbyterian game in the first half and looked absolutely horrid. He was sacked twice and had another bad play that led to a punt. Lets also not forget the mtsu game. Vad came in during the first half and went three and out, because he can’t run the t.o. effectively yet. Why do you people want a QB out there that’s more likely than not gonna run the offense worse than Tevin?
GT Fan
October 17th, 2012
3:16 pm
TW has thrown 2 BAD ints, both at crucial times. OT vs VT, and the MTSU underthrow which would’ve tied the game at 35.
Not saying GT definitely wins either game had TW not thrown those picks, but, IMO, each was the dagger that killed GT.
SS 22
October 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
A break during an off week?
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
Lol… I must agree I cringe everytime we are 4th and 1! Yes I must admit that IS NOT an area I have confidence in TW. Cant say that Vad is any different tho. I’ve seen him stuffed for a loss on the 1 yard too. No-one will recall because it was not for the game. Buts its happened. We need a strong running back there to cram it up the middle.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
3:38 pm
MaconFan: Looked Horrid in the first half vs. Presby? LOL:
1. First drive: Vad hit two receivers directly in the hands/chest and they dropped it. Passes were on the money, I think the receivers were so shocked they were getting a good pass that they lost concentration. You clearly haven’t seen the game, so please stop commenting on it.
2. Of course you don’t mention the 2nd half. 1st rush of his career: TD.
3. First pass completion of his career: a majestic 82 yard TD pass.
4. 2nd rush of his career: 79 yards, 2nd longest non-scoring run in Tech history.
And that was just the 3rd quarter.
MaconFan,, you sir are a fool.
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
3:41 pm
@Joe Lee aka GT Joe
If Lavaedeay Monlique Lee had played in every game this season, with the same D and same ST the outcome would be 0-6! No matter what manipulated numbers you dig up, the fact is until we figure out our defensive woes, the team will continue to struggle. Your kid is not going to fix that on his own. So there is no sense trying to demonize another kid for the sake of improving Lavaedeay’s chances of playing.
If somehow, he wins the starting spot over Justin next year, which is not guaranteed , he will have a chance to live up to all this hype you’ve created for him. Until then, have a seat! Your rants are not going to pressure CPJ only his playing will.
.. And just because PJ says Lavaedeay had “A” good day of practice, thats still not enough to overthrow the kid you’ve built your life these days on demonizing. That should tell you that your kid is not head and shoulders above anyone!! In fact he’ll be lucky to beats out Justin Thomas next year.
BTW – When CPJ said “He’s still learning but he’s quick and he’s fast. He can make some plays even when things don’t go like they should. Pretty smart. Picks up on things pretty quick…
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT JUSTIN THOMAS NOT Lavaedeay!!!!!!!!!!!!! His remarks on Lavaedeay were very neutral!
Evidently, VAd is NOT as good as TW at 4th and 1 in practice...
October 17th, 2012
3:41 pm
…which is why he does not play in games – that is two times in two days that Vad’s head coach and position coach said he is not as good in practice and that that is why he does not play in games.
What part of this sentence do you Vad lovers not understand “Other than that, I think he’s got to come out every day and try to win the job. We talked about it today and I think he came out and had a really good practice today. Last week, it wasn’t bad, it wasn’t good. It was just O.K.”
It was just “OK” – so, in big boy football “OK” at practice does not garner game time participation except in mop up duty…
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
…3. First pass completion of his career: a majestic 82 yard TD pass
Look at Joe Lee promoting his kid for everyone. We were all there… and it was A good snap against a HIGHSCHOOL team! Of course he shined!
Paddy
October 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
I love it when there is Tech fan infighting! If you had a strong B-Back most of these comment would never appear. Until you do, Tech fans will eat their young!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
3:45 pm
Wow Joe there you go giving stats during a blowout against 2nd and 3rd string defenses that mean nothing. Funny how you always forget to mention his failures and only mention the good. Selective memory is a funny thing for someone who obsesses over 18-22 year old kids every day. You sir are the fool and a f#ck#ng idiot at that. Now give some stats in the first half of games, when he’s actually playing 1st string defenses not in mop up duty.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
LOL, in big boy football, poor performers get BENCHED. TW is what we call a “practice field player”. Stud in practice (apparently), failure in games.
Bohannon’s quote about coming every day and winning the job is complete GARBAGE. Vad and all of us know that Vad will never start this year. If it hasn’t happened by now, it will never happen. CPJ and Bohannon can’t let it happen, because they will look like fools if Vad looks like Joe Hamilton.
CPJ calls Vad out about practice; what does Vad do? He has his best day ever. Why? Because he can do that whenever he wants. But he probably feels like there is no incentive any more; he knows he won’t start for whatever reason. So why not “cruise” in practice? Heck, why not transfer?
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
3:51 pm
MaconFan: do you have ANY proof that presby and 3rd stringers in the game in the THIRD quarter? Please, show me.
You talk out of your rektum too much. Tell honey boo boo i said hey.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
3:54 pm
maconfan: can you name a worse QB that we have had at GT in the past 25 years?
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
3:56 pm
Wow Joe another honey boo boo comment. That really hurt tight there. And I’m talking out of my rectum you no spelling fool. All you do is spout nonsense everyday. Hell you even said NFL qb’s get benched for taking sacks. You sir talk out of your azzhole every single time you post on here. Bad is not f#ck#Ng ready so just let it go small minded teenage obsessed piece of crap. How old are you anyway Joe? I hope to god you’re only 14 or so, otherwise you have some serious problems.
chas_jacket
October 17th, 2012
3:58 pm
GT joe if vad only practices hard when he thinks he has a chance to play/ start, then he doesn’t need to be on the field period. I doubt that is the case though.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
3:58 pm
Easy Joe A.J. Suggs. You obviously haven’t been following Tech that long to ask that. My guess is that you’re just a troll so I’m through with from now on.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
3:59 pm
Macon: Vad scored a TD against UVA in the 2nd quarter. UVA had 3rd stringers in that early? LOL.
Owned.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:01 pm
And what was that on Joe, the 1 or 2 yard line. Wow that’s so hard, Tevin does it all the time. Owned
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
4:02 pm
@Joe Lee – What you are saying confirms that he has POOR WORK ETHIC!! If you really believe he can “turn it on” whenever he wants, then why not “turn it on” everyday and earn the job already!! Do we really want a “QB” that just “turns it on when he wants”!! You have officially shoved your foot up you own behind on that one!
You have it backwards… In big boy football, players earns their spot on the field and work hard to keep it! Nobody GIVES you anything.
The problem is you want the program to roll over for your kid, AND ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN! He’s gonna either show and prove AT PRACTICE, or have a seat with you!
You keep throwing up transfer like we dont have other options. PLEASE transfer your son!! I like the heart S.Days and the promise of Justin Thomas has shown MUCH better anyway. I’ll take a kid whose willing to do whatever the team needs whenever they need it over a spoiled highschool star, who expects the program to build itself around him any day.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:04 pm
Macon: your credibility has been destroyed by me too many times. do yourself a favor,change your handle, save youself the embarrassment.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:06 pm
AJ suggs: never had a losing season,and actually led a 4th quarter comeback vs 9-0 NC State. Can Tevin match eiter of those?
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:06 pm
Joe why haven’t you responded to A.J. Suggs yet? You obviously don’t know jack about Tech football which makes me think you’re either a troll or somehow related to Vad. Its gotta be one or the other. You haven’t proven anything to anyone on these blogs except how obsessed you are with teenagers. Kinda creepy if you ask me. Hell even WnE doesn’t beat a horse to death as much as you do.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:08 pm
Took you long enough to google Suggs didn’t it Joe, and when have you ever destroyed my credibility?
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
4:12 pm
@ Macon – He’s not a tech fan. He’s Vad’s #1 fan (if you know what I mean)
I almost feel sorry for the kid, having someone as unreasonable as Joe Lee in his ear. But what he just said speaks volumes… his own best supporter just told you all that he is not motivated to play for this team. Still wanna ride the Lavaedeay train???
So for all the fans who keep wondering why PJ wont “just play him” … the reason is he’s not fully committed to the team and it shows in practice. You gotta know PJ is fighting for his job here! He is gonna play who gives us the best chance to win every time. And he’s is not going to risk his job on a kid with one foot in the program and one foot out the door!
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
4:12 pm
THE REAL ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Name thief @ 2:10 PM & 2:47 PM today. I suspect SS loves Obama!
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
4:18 pm
I see no need to complain to anyone @ the AJC. They apparently don’t care to do anything about this issue. Or they are too stupid or don’t have the backbone to take action. Or maybe they think it is just a sports blog, who cares. The AJC was once a proud newspaper read across the SE USA. They are making a great effort to live down to their nick names…”The Fishwrapper”….”The Atlanta Urinal & Constipation”….and I used to defend their name……………………………….jokes on me I guess.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:21 pm
Macon says that Vad “misread the option 3 straight plays” in the MTSU game. Debunked.
Macon says Vad only played 3rd stringers. Debunked.
Macon says AJ Suggs was worse than TW. Debunked.
Seriously Macon, ignorance must be bliss.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:21 pm
@Take the Wheel I read that also, but thought you did a good enough hob of calling him for it so I didn’t bother. Dudes just obsessed is all. Vad obviously isn’t cutting it, but people just don’t get it. Like I said earlier, I’m gonna laugh if Justin starts next year. And if Joe is right, and Vads not trying in practice, then I hope he never starts at Tech. That is the main reason Perkins doesn’t start. PJ has called Perkins out in the past for expecting to start without earning it in practice.
Uh, GT Joe...
October 17th, 2012
4:22 pm
…thanks for posting the most moronic tidbit of the day.
COMPETING every dang day is what sports after high school are all about – the competition is so great in college and the pros that if you do not compete, you do not play. And, that, in a nutshell, is what separates TW from Vad, and what will separate Justin from Vad next year, if Vad sticks around…
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
4:22 pm
BTW Joe Lee – When CPJ said “He’s still learning but he’s quick and he’s fast. He can make some plays even when things don’t go like they should. Pretty smart. Picks up on things pretty quick…
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT JUSTIN THOMAS NOT Lavaedeay!!!!!!!!!!!!! His remarks on Lavaedeay were very neutral!
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
4:23 pm
@Joe Lee –
You have it backwards… In big boy football, players earns their spot on the field and work hard to keep it! Nobody GIVES you anything.
The problem is you want the program to roll over for your kid, AND ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN! He’s gonna either show and prove AT PRACTICE, or have a seat with you!
You keep throwing up transfer like we dont have other options. PLEASE transfer your kid!! I like the heart S.Days and the promise of Justin Thomas has shown MUCH better anyway. I’ll take a kid whose willing to do whatever the team needs whenever they need it over a spoiled highschool star, who expects the program to build itself around him any day.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:24 pm
I for one don’t blame Vad for not being committed to Tech (if that is indeed the case). He is now wasting his 2nd year behind the worst GT QB in AT LEAST the last 25 years. And we have CPJ either trying to “break” Vad or teach him lesson about practice effort?
Tevin is 8-13, but at least he practices well!
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:26 pm
Nah Joe Vad didn’t misread the option 3 straight times, but never saw the field until a minute left in the game. Debunked.
Never said Vad hasn’t scored against 1st stringers, just said he hasn’t played as good against them as the proof being mtsu and Presby in first half of both games. Also scoring from the 1 isn’t that hard. Again ask Tevin. Debunked.
Suggs was worse than, which is why he couldn’t beat out Reggie Ball and transferred. Debunked.
Again Joe, shut up you idiot.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:27 pm
Oh yeh Macon: you said the 4th down play vs. Miami wasn’t TW’s fault. Debunked AGAIN. Ask CPJ about that one.
LOL. This is getting boring.
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
4:30 pm
Mystery solved people. Daddy and his Diva revealed. Lalapolooza was a star in highschool and he and his family expected “above the law treatment” from GT. I guess he figured all the other QBs would just lay down. So since thats not happening, he’s pouting AGAIN (just like last year) and talking about transferring AGAIN (just like last year). PLEASE GOOOOOOOOO. We are better off with 2 QBs who want to play and contribute to the success of the team anyway in any way they can.
… and until then Joe Lee will continue to demonize and demoralize every other QB in Lalapolooza’s path!
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:30 pm
Reggie>AJ>TW.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:30 pm
I don’t care what you think Joe. You obviously didn’t watch the Miami game, cause if you did, you would know that Miami’s line completely blew that play up and were in our backfield. Hell Vad wouldn’t have gotten that 1st down wither. Debunked again. Can you possibly be any dumber Joe.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:31 pm
If CPJ thinks practice performance trumps game performance, he must be fired ASAP. That kind of thinking gets you, well, a 2-4 record.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:33 pm
Reggie was good, but wasn’t that great. Hell Suggs also sat behind Godsey cause he couldn’t beat him out either. Suggs only started because like last year with Tevin, Tech had no one else to start. You really don’t know jack about Tech do you Joe.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:35 pm
Macon: are you an idiot? miami blew it up BECAUSE TEVIN MISREAD. You obviously are just a troll and not areal fan. Read CPJ’s comments. It was supposed to be a pitch to Orwin. Tevin kept it, and ran into the worst possible hole. the OL did it’s job RIGHT. CPJ didn’t call out the OL, only Tevin.
Debunking you is boring.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:36 pm
AJ Sat behind Godsey? Cause Godsey was AWESOME.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
4:40 pm
You missed my point on Godsey Joe. He sat because he wasn’t good enough. He only started that one year because he wasn’t good enough. Kinda like what were seeing from Vad and Tevin right now. Vads not cutting it so just stfu and get over it already. Yeah I’m not a real fan, but you demonize our starting QB everyday you post on here. Who’s not the real fan here Joe?
Go Trojans!
October 17th, 2012
4:43 pm
Ken – any word on B.Snoddy playing more? I hate to see that type of speed wasted. B back is fine but it just seems like GT could use a few more speed players on the field.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
4:45 pm
get this through your thick skull; i’m not demonizing TW. I’m mad at CPJ .
FL Jacket
October 17th, 2012
4:50 pm
“I for one don’t blame Vad for not being committed to Tech (if that is indeed the case). He is now wasting his 2nd year behind the worst GT QB in AT LEAST the last 25 years. And we have CPJ either trying to “break” Vad or teach him lesson about practice effort?
Tevin is 8-13, but at least he practices well!”
GT Joe…called out by Ken correctly about crusading.
Worst Tech QB in the last 25 years? Really? Wow you are delusional. Worse than Reggie Ball? Worse than A.J. Suggs? Worse than Tommy Luginbill? Worse then CALVIN FREAKING BOOKER???
When one has their own narrative written, I guess it’s easy to overlook such glaring omissions. Whatever it takes to get Vad on the field, and completely revamp the GT football team into a big entitlement scheme where potential trumps on-field performance…
FL Jacket
October 17th, 2012
4:50 pm
“get this through your thick skull; i’m not demonizing TW”
No…you’re just calling him the worst GT QB of the last 25 years…
79
October 17th, 2012
4:55 pm
Ken,
You wrote, “….although the B-back numbers are again down, which is typically either a function of either the backs or the line…..” Not one of your more profound observations, here.
Paddy
October 17th, 2012
4:59 pm
Go Trojans…….you say the B-Back position is fine……….No it is not. If it was, you would be crunching out the numbers like the offense is intended.
Stinger 1
October 17th, 2012
4:59 pm
GTJoe: Are you sure you are a GT fan?
Rmblg Wreck
October 17th, 2012
5:03 pm
AJ Suggs did not sit behind George Godsey….Suggs transferred to Tech in 2001 and had to sit out a year….Godsey’s last year was 2001…. so he could not have played behind him.
Stinger 1
October 17th, 2012
5:03 pm
GTJoe: AJ Suggs only played at GT for one year. However, I believe he holds at least one single season passing record. Either most TD passes or yards gained passing
Rmblg Wreck
October 17th, 2012
5:07 pm
FL Jacket as much as I disliked Reggie Ball….yes Tevin is a worse quarterback than Reggie…..
FL Jacket
October 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
“In 2002, Suggs posted a 7-6 record as a starter, throwing 12 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, 2,142 passing yards, and completed 57.3% of his passes. Suggs’s last start was in 2002 against Fresno State University in the Silicon Valley Bowl. He was taken out of the game in favor of redshirt freshman Damarius Bilbo.”
From Wiki…and I stand corrected. Another Tech QB worse than Tevin was Damarius Bilbo.
Rmblg Wreck
October 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
Stinger 1….Suggs played at Tech for 2 years….and doesn’t hold any records for Tech….
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
Joe ain’t no GT fan……….but he sure is a Vad Lee fan!
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
5:13 pm
Thanks for the clarification Rmblg. I knew he had transferred, just thought it was out not in. Didn’t realize it was 2001 either. Thought it was about 2003 or so. Time fly’s I guess.
MaconGTFan
October 17th, 2012
5:14 pm
Bilbo made up for himself being a receiver. He wasn’t utilized correctly IMO, just like Calvin.
Coach Z
October 17th, 2012
5:25 pm
All this comment on 4th and 1 simply makes me say, Tech shouldn’t be in those positions. Most of the time this year, when Tech is CPJ only goes for it when he can pin an excuse on the defense if Tech doesn’t make it. Example of this would be that Miami game when tech punts on 4th and 1 on the 50, but then goes for it on 4th and 1 on the goal line in OT. Don’t make it from the 1, just say hey it was the defense that put us in this situation. All I want is consistency, and get rid of that silly wishbone play unless you run it from time to time.
FL Jacket
October 17th, 2012
5:26 pm
“FL Jacket as much as I disliked Reggie Ball….yes Tevin is a worse quarterback than Reggie…..”
Wreck – hope this changes your mind…
Reggie Ball career…
662/1363 48.6%, 8128 yds, 6.0 YPA, 57 TD 55 INT 104.4 rtg
1451 yds rushing, 2.9 ypc
Tevin Washington career…
149/290 51.4%, 2894 yds,10.0 YPA, 17 TD 13INT 145.6 rtg
1949 yds rushing, 4.2 ypc
So…let’s see. Tevin is more accurate, throwing more difficult passes, has a better TD:INT ratio, and is a better rated passer. Plus Tevin out-gains Reggie on every rush attempt.
Yup…absolutely Reggie Ball is a better QB
taylor
October 17th, 2012
5:33 pm
And Reggie had CJ to throw to, which helped is numbers…
taylor
October 17th, 2012
5:34 pm
*his
... Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
5:34 pm
@ Stinger – I can answer that… NO he is not a GT fan! He’s a parent watching his gravy train roll off into the sunset!!!
He has a crazed fixation on our starting QB. Kinda like those little league parents who will stop at nothing to have their kid on the field!!
Get this through your thick skull Joe Lee – “The only thing thats gonna change PJs mind is proof at practice”! Your numbers and videos, DEMONIZING and DEMORALIZING TW is not going to cut it. He has no reason to be biased against Lalapolooza Lavaedeay. He wants to win and he wants to keep his job! So if you all cant understand why he should earn it in practice then you dont belong in this program!! GOOOOOOOOOO.
And dont think I dont see right through you trying to back away with your comment “I for one don’t blame Vad for not being committed to Tech (if that is indeed the case)” – PUH LEASE go away with that “if thats the case” comment. You know first hand that he is not committed. You already let the cat out the bag. Dont try to run from it now.
And just that you would say that shows us all that you ARE NOT a GT fan!
SS loves Obama
October 17th, 2012
5:51 pm
@1 4 GT…Sorry but I have no desire to “fake” your name, I have my own, thank you. I will say that what you are doing is Libel against me any possibly the AJC. You may be facing legal action, bubba.
Jay Finch = No Rimington Award
October 17th, 2012
6:29 pm
I guess with Jay Finch’s spotty play, he will not win the Rimington Award this year. What a joke that he was even under consideration.
1 4 GT
October 17th, 2012
6:43 pm
Mocking “Supersize that order, mutt” all the way aren’t you little boy ss.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
6:59 pm
Wake up folks. Reggie ball never had a losing season. Tevin? Working on his second.
GT Joe
October 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
But I bet Tevin is better in practice than Reggie!
FL Jacket
October 17th, 2012
7:14 pm
GT Joe is the type of guy who would’ve sit Kris Medlen because he isnt 6′4″ anf doesn’t have a mid-90’s fastball…
And, GT Joe...
October 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
…TW is better in practice than Vad, too…as he is in games since he gets to play and Vad doesn’t get to play because he is not good in practice – see, that, in psychological parlance, is what is called cause and effect…
FL Jacket
October 17th, 2012
7:22 pm
Plus Vad Lee has been given the equivalent of 4-5 meaning series i the first half of games this year…and all he has to show in his “opportunities to prove he’s the better QB” is maybe what…1 first down?
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October 17th, 2012
7:47 pm
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Tech Fan For Life
October 17th, 2012
7:59 pm
Brian go back to Statesboro – you could be a good assistant for Jeff and your better half
would make a good A D Pi chapter mom
JoeFan
October 17th, 2012
8:01 pm
Doesn’t matter whether its Lee or Thomas, both need experience or the first half of the 2013 season will be dedicated to breaking in a new quarterback. if Thomas is better, then use the last 6 games to get him prepared. Trying to scratch out a couple of more wins to put a better light on terrible season, while at the expense of the 2013 season, is a waste.
SS loves Obama
October 17th, 2012
8:03 pm
@FL Jacket….good Kris Medlen analogy. @1 4 GT…Please get a life.
bloggers watch practice?
October 17th, 2012
8:15 pm
who knew?
JoeFan and GT Joe (one in the same)...
October 17th, 2012
8:25 pm
…and throw away the seniors’ chance to be winners this year in order to “hope” for next year? What are you guys, UGA fans who are always saying “maybe next year”…
OldSchoolTechFanatic
October 17th, 2012
8:31 pm
Vad should already be quarterback, but I’m with CPJ if Vad was quarterback we would already have 4 losses by now. Oh my bad we do have 4 losses I guess CPJ doesn’t know what he’s doing !!!
...Take The Wheel
October 17th, 2012
9:21 pm
Old school what have you seen that makes you know that Vad should be QB?? And know that better than a man who sees and works with him every day – and has other special coaches to confirm his readiness. Again why do you think this man would risk his job by not playing his best QB?
Corndog05
October 17th, 2012
9:27 pm
why does it matter. tech will lose no matter who plays under center. doomed.
BIG BEE
October 17th, 2012
9:43 pm
If Vad Lee had been the starter all year, the record would be about the same and maybe worse, simply because the offense has not lost games, but the defense sure as heck has.
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October 17th, 2012
9:55 pm
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GT79MD83
October 17th, 2012
10:37 pm
I get a big laugh out of all the TW apologists.What has he done to earn these praises? We have 2 wins against Presbyterian and UVA. Both are terrible.Since the UGA game last year he usually fumbles, throws bonehead interceptions, underthrows receivers and make poor decisions that do no sustain drives when they are most needed(throughout the UGA game, in the 4th quarter with a big lead in the Utah game, in overtime in the VT game–although he made some good plays in the 4th quarter of that game, but those are negated with a Reggie Ball like play in overtime, in the Miami game with a big lead in the 3rd quarter and a chance to win in OT, in the 2nd half of the MTSU gamewhen we were tied and still had a chance if the offense performs, and in the Clemson game when we had a lead and the defense was actually causing turnovers.I know the defense has played poorly but we have had many oppurtunities on offense in the games listed above in the 4th Quarter and OT to still win if he makes plays to sustain drives.I do not know if Lee would do better, but a loss is a loss. I would venture to say that we would have beaten Presbyterian and UVA with Lee at quarterback.I do not care about TWs individual stats.Clearly if our defense was better we would have more wins, but it is not.If TW does not make plays late in games we will continue to lose. We want Lee to play more primarily because we are losing anyway with TW.A loss is a loss.The quarterback will always get more heat for his individual play at important times during the game because he runs the offense.I totally disagree with only blaming the defense for the losses.
GT79MD83
October 17th, 2012
11:12 pm
Please defend TWs performance late in the games we have lost since the UGA game last year.Any takers? I am a huge GT fan,also a graduate and season ticket holder.I am waiting.
North Ave Killer Beez
October 17th, 2012
11:23 pm
How can any rational GT fan with any desire to win want to stick with Tevin when our season is over. It literally means nothing. All he is doing is wasting valuable snaps that Vad or Days should be getting. No way in hell I would pay money to go watch such nonsense.
North Ave Killer Beez
October 17th, 2012
11:40 pm
Preach on GT79, @taketheWheely we have seen Tevin play way to much. That’s about all the evidence you need to know Days or Vad should be QB. Yank some kid out of the stands, either one could not play any worse.
gtkenz
October 17th, 2012
11:57 pm
Little Joe, Godsey, and Nesbitt were all great at carrying a bad defense and winning in spite of. Tevin is not, but Tevin is not to blame, nor is any player on the offense. Tevin and the rest of the O have kept us in every game since Nesbitt left starting with the VT game 2010.
Tevin didn’t forget how to tackle last year at UVA. Tevin didn’t drop a punt inside the 20 last year at Miami. Tevin didn’t allow three 4th quarter leads to evaporate and go to OT. Tevin does not miss critical FG’s. Tevin didn’t allow MTSU to run wild this year and basically score on every possession. Tevin didn’t allow Clemson’s punter to sit the bench all game two weeks ago. But what Tevin does do, is score points. He does it consistently week after week.
Vad is talented and Vad will get his shot, but Tech’s issue is not the offense and it’s definitely not Tevin. Last year we started 6-0 against average at best ACC and Non-Conference teams. With the exception of UGA, Tech has 5 straight against the same. Clemson as the only wash, 6-0 then 2-4 last year. This year, 2-4 then 5-1 if CPJ and this team are as good as or better than last. We’ll see!!
Myth Buster's
October 18th, 2012
12:22 am
Guess he forgot to be consistent at VT.
GT TN
October 18th, 2012
12:59 am
@north ave killer bees is as big of an idiot as GT Joe..if you ever played on a sports team you would know that the season isnt over for everyone..the seniors that give 4 to 5 years of the life to play at GT deserve the coaching staff do the bestthey can to win..if you were a true tech fan you would realize that Days is behind Vad and Thomas..
GT79MD83..you answered your own question about what TW has done..he helped us get a big lead in the 3rd quater..was it his fault that the def gave up scores on 3 of thier last 4 drives..the one drive that wasn;t a score was a missed fg..if you ask any coach that they get the ball with 7 mins left and a 7 point lead..the offense eats 5 mins of the clock and downs the punt at 10 with 2 mins left..they would take thier chances..was it TW fault that we gave up 25 yard run for a TD..tech defense got 2 turnovers ..TW fumbled 1 on 4th down and he lead team down to cut lead to 1 score but we got a fg blocked
this is to both of you idiots..if Vad was playing and the defense played as they have..Tech would still be 2-4..you both would be complaning why is CPJ playing Vad and not TW..yall are the same guys that complained when Nesbitt was completing 33% of his passes..now he is great and TW is bad..Nesbitt would have no better record with the Def that TW has..look at Nesbitt record when AG was his DC
Tech Fan
October 18th, 2012
4:58 am
I find it hysterical that some fans believe CPJ would intentionally not start his best QB. The EXACT blogs are taking place on the UGa sites where “know it all” fans want to bench Murray. Give it a break guys. There are reasons that we are not privy to as to why Johnson and Richt are starting certain players. Easy for us to make recommendations, but those guys have their jobs on the line and I’m certain, beyond any doubt, they have given a little thought to who the starting QB needs to be.
Uh, GT79MD83 may be...
October 18th, 2012
7:59 am
…”a huge GT fan,also a graduate and season ticket holder.I am waiting.”, and he is also one of the dumber GT grads ever to post such drivel as he did last night – not only have most on her NOT apologized for TW, most have concurred that he may have under performed at crunch time, and that even then, he is obviously the better choice to LEAD the team than anybody else, based on what his head coach and position coach have said regarding PRACTICE time that leads up to game time appearances.
GT TN’s post at 12.59am this morning hits the nail square on the head regarding how dumb the good doctors post was…
franchise
October 18th, 2012
9:30 am
GT Joe
you are not smarter than CPJ or the AD just because you spend money on season tickets and go to same games. get over yourself. what do you know that they don’t? have you been to practices? have you been involved in the recruitment of any of the players? can you read minds? just shut up and let the season play out. there are 6 games left and if we go to Athens and beat the dawgs (unlikely but possible) we all will be singing a different tune. Im still bitter about MTSU loss though
North Ave Killer Beez
October 18th, 2012
9:59 am
Well screw it then, we should not get Vad any experience because by golly we’ve got 5 year seniors on the team. TN you tart, everyone know’s the defense blows! When your 2-4 and you can’t pass, score when needed or get 1 yard on 4th down you may want to give someone else a chance. Wait, that would just be idiocy.
North Ave Killer Beez
October 18th, 2012
10:00 am
Let’s just keep TW in always, no matter what. He is the BEST PRACTICE player we have.
GT TN
October 18th, 2012
10:36 am
@North Ave Killer Beez..I never said not to play Vad some..I just said not to give up on the season and just throw in the towel..Orwin Smith deserves more than that..to show you how much you know..we have 6 seniors that strart and over 12 on the depth chart..you just said the our defense sucks at last week working with the 1st team Vad threw more passes to our sucky defense than he did to his WR..it not all about how you perform in practice..he had a chance in the 3 big scrimmages before the season started..he did so bad in one of them that he fell to 3rd string behind a guy who is spending more time at RB..what does that tell your team when you a start a guy doesn’t deserve it..all your other players will say I don’t have to practice..I will start because Im who I am..I know the def sucks and I know TW hasn’t played great the whole season..its just funny how you blame TW for Tech record..TW isn’t GT’s problem..we have at least 5 other problems before he should come up in conversation..I can tell you have never played a down of football or coached a down besides your sons Saturday afternoon pee wee game..Can CPJ do your job better than you???? It is funny how you think you can do his job better than him
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:51 am
GT TN: yeah, let’s stick with Vad. CPJ is all knowing. He never makes mistakes. Except for that Al Groh experiment. Except for going for 4th down in the 1st quarter at clemson in our own territory. Except….well, maybe he DOES make mistakes?
5150 UOAD
October 18th, 2012
10:51 am
Senior Players always deserve their team not throwing in the towel.
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:51 am
sorry, meant to say “lets stick with tevin”
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:53 am
wow guys. Is this what obama has done to us? seniors are now “entitled” to playing?
nanny state at work.
5150 UOAD
October 18th, 2012
10:54 am
JOE…..who has NEVER made a mistake? Do you have a TV record or DVD of you doing your job so we can watch and bitch about all your mistakes? Not that I want to watch GT Joe porn but it would be funny for us to watch you SCORE with a girl and have us pick out all your mistakes.
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:54 am
playing vad doesn’t mean “throwing in the towel”. It might actually mean “saving the season”.
I wonder when CPJ gets fired, people will put an asterisk on the 2012 season and give him a pass because he played seniors out of the goodness of his heart.
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:56 am
5150: mistakes are unacceptable. Make about 10 mistakes in a row at your job, and you’ll be getting unemployment checks soon.
But not under CPJ. He’s running social security at GT, supporting the “seniors”. LOL.
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:59 am
all you numbnuts (and apparently CPJ) would bench Allen Iverson because he didn’t do well in practice. And you’d all be looking for a job too.
If a coach thinks practice performance is MORE important than game performance, then he must be fired ASAP.
Wal-Mart Retards
October 18th, 2012
11:15 am
*yawn* nuthin’ new to see here, same story, same dumbass
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
11:22 am
Yeah walmart, but now there’s more of me. read above. People are realizing that TW should sit.
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
11:22 am
classic allen iverson on “practice”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI
1 4 GT
October 18th, 2012
11:48 am
FYI has just called out GT Joe on his blog “Game-plan advantages…………………….” & referenced his other blog handles. As I have suspected, Joe is a troll of the worst sort.
GTF GRAD
October 18th, 2012
12:16 pm
Yea Joe, and how much better could Iverson be if he gave 100% in practice? 40 years from now when people talk of basketball greats, noone will even remember who Allen Iverson was. Definitely not in the same class as guys who work hard in practice………Jordan, Bryant, Durant…….
The fact that you, as his biggest supporter, question Vad’s commitment to practice tells me that the kid has no heart and only cares about himself. I don’t want someone who doesn’t care about the rest of his teammates in control of the team that I love, and maybe CPJ sees that in practice as well. I hope the kid never plays a down as a starter at GT. And no, TW is not a star QB but our offense is pretty efficient. Look at the stats. He happens to account for more individual points per game than all but ONE player in all of division I football. If you put up 30 points or more against a team, you should win that game. The fact that our defense is giving up more points than our season average (which is higher than all but one team that we’ve played) tells me what our biggest problem is.
1 4 GT
October 18th, 2012
12:27 pm
I see I left out Ken after FYI…….sometimers attack……….
GT TN
October 18th, 2012
12:37 pm
GT Jow..how can you say Vad will save the season..he has proven nothing..so just throwing him in there means throwing in the towel..if a SR doesnt deserve to start he shouldnt..but you cant bench a SR just because you the fan thinks he can do better..maybe Vad can read a single coverage..everyone thought CCG was a idiot for not playing Bilbo but it came out he could play QB..you bring up every negative that CPJ and TW has done and that is it..you don’t look at the whole team..CPJ has gone for it on 4th like he did against Clemson and made it..you never bring that up..I also see what kid of person you are when you are comparing our GT football players to AI..he never won anything..Great example using a guy that never reached his potential..
also GT Joe..where has CPJ ever said that practice performance is better than game performance..he has never said that..he says you have to prove yourself in practice but has never said that practice performance is better than game performance..AI bashed practice and his coach won an NCAA title and a NBA title..can AI say that..AI couldnt even win silver at the Olympics..maybe he should have practiced with his team more and they could have won a championship..GT Joe you are a joke..
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
1:49 pm
Who cares about AI’s coach. Any coach that would bench his best player because of practice performance is a moron.
Some coaches are aholes and try to prove a point to players. It seems CPJ is like this.
Is Vad not trying 100% in practice? Maybe, I don’t know. But the fact that he had his best practice AFTER CPJ called him out earlier in the week tells me that Vad can “turn it on” whenever he wants to. And if he hasn’t been “turning it on”, he must have some motivation issues.
Why would Vad have motivation issues? I can speculate, but have no idea:
1. Sitting behind an inferior QB for now 2 years.
2. Wasting a year of his football career on a redshirt behind said inferior QB.
3. Maybe he is destroying Tevin in practice but still doesn’t start for whatever reason (attitude, practice, CPJ’s stubborness, etc.).
4. Maybe he is disillusioned with CPJ’s promises during recruiting about passing more.
I’m not in his head, but ME? I’d have motivation problems too if I were Vad.
WnE
October 18th, 2012
3:06 pm
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:54 am
playing vad doesn’t mean “throwing in the towel”. It might actually mean “saving the season”.
I wonder when CPJ gets fired, people will put an asterisk on the 2012 season and give him a pass because he played seniors out of the goodness of his heart.
_________________________
You’re delusional!
When our young players played vs. MTSU they looked like garbage, and D-II garbage at that.
Our young players are nothing to look forward to.
The CPJ BLTs have deluded themselves into thinking that we’re loaded for bear in the future as we have a lot of future NFLers in our last 2 Recruiting classes.
The truth is, our young players & RS-fr look like crap other than 1 or 2 like JH-Days and maybe one other guy.
CPJ’s recruiting has been so poor our program has been dismantled for the foreseeable future!
1 4 GT
October 18th, 2012
4:50 pm
I don’t know that I really care to participate in a blog where phonies can show up one day and start out posting, at least IMHO, being personally offensive in their blog behavior to myself & others as well. And no I am not being thin skinned. Then when the moderator calls that person out on their blog behavior, all they get is toothless warnings. So maybe they do change their blog handle, but manages to do so in a still offensive manner. BFD!! If the moderator does not have the authority to ban someone, then who does. And BTW, the individual I am talking about “cussed out”, without actually “cussing”, the moderator, & said moderator seemingly ignored it. Words have meaning! Either your word means something or it does not mean anything. You take a stand or you stand for nothing. Which is it? I know what I would do. IN A HEARTBEAT TOO!!!!
... Take The Wheel
October 18th, 2012
4:52 pm
@North Ave Killer Beez and GT79MD83:
I definitely wouldnt call myself a TW apologist. For one I dont feel there is any cause for apology. There is no apology necessary when you’ve given your all and I believe he does. I personally think that his all has been sufficient to win, but other elements of the team haven’t held up as well. I’ve repeatedly acknowledged that TW has weaknesses and has made critical mistakes, as have other players. I even acknowledge that the QB position is key and therefore TW’s mistakes may cost the team a little more than some others.
But you seem to respect numbers so let me give it to you this way…for the record this is what I have said and continue to say:
1. The offense has scored enough points to win the games that we’ve lost (except MTSU which was just a bad day all around). The offense is not the most exciting to watch – but it puts points on the board. Problem is we need work on D and ST.
2. CPJ is obviously playing the QB that gives us the best chance to win and he should continue to do so. The season is not over, and no coach should give up the season mid-way through just to break in the “next guy”. That to me would be a terminable offense. Rotate them situationally when its reasonable – yes.
4. There is no guarantee that Laveadey is said “next guy”. I happen to like Thomas and LOVE Days. I have a problem with highschool stars with entitlement issues.
5. IF Lavaedeay is as good as people say he is then he should prove himself in practice and take the position – its that simple! Nobody is gonna roll over for him at this level. You dont get OJT at this level. You earn it and then work hard to maintain it – which TW has according to CPJ.
6. If TW is outplaying the others at practice – what makes you think that they will suddenly get into game situations and all of a sudden perform better than he has?
7. Lavaedeay has had game time opportunities and has not demonstrated the ability to run the TO better than TW. Thats what the rest of the team is built around. Are you suggesting the whole program build itself around this one individuals “potential”?? Really?? gamble to whole program on the “what if” of this one player?
8. Our offense has been the one thing working decently well. It ranks amongst the highest teams this year. Its no need to make unwarranted changes in that area just because you cry for it
9. If other entities of our team played up, we would be 5-1 and you people would be invisible. But since thats not the case you want TW to be nearly perfect, and thats not reasonable. He can break the school record to TD’s in a game, but if the D doesn’t hold – its an L!
10. I have a problem with GTJoes demonization of TW (and would feel the same if he picked Scully, or Golden, or Drummond etc.) They’ve all made costly mistakes, but they’re kids playing a game they love and doing there best to win for our team. No need to demoralize them.
… and “franchise” said it best…. you keyboard QBs are not smarter than CPJ and AD and you certainly dont want to win more than they do – so shut up and let the season play out!
... Take The Wheel
October 18th, 2012
4:56 pm
ok…. that was a tad longer than it looked on my screen!!!
1 4 GT
October 18th, 2012
4:57 pm
…..Take the Wheel……WELL SAID!
... Take The Wheel
October 18th, 2012
5:05 pm
- …..Yeah walmart, but now there’s more of me. read above. People are realizing that TW should sit..
@joe… uh… no not really … they actually realize you’re delusional and obsessed. Its even more clear that you want the program to roll over for Lavaedeay. You’re now comparing him to AI as if thats a good thing!! He had terrible work ethic and attitude and it hurt him and the 76′ers!
North Ave Killer Beez
October 18th, 2012
5:17 pm
2. CPJ is obviously playing the QB that gives us the best chance to win and he should continue to do so. @ TAKE THE WHEEL: ??? Please tell me how this is so obvious when Days or Lee have not been given a fair chance. Certainly Days has earned at least 1 shot at a full game evaluation yet he has been given Zero. Don’t tell me about fumbles either when Tevin’s leash is as long as it is.
What is a reasonable situation. Vad is in year two and Day who I happen to love as well is in year 3? If 2-4 is not reasonable nothing ever will be.
I hate having four losses all year, much less half way through the season. I have nothing against Tevin but I am sick to my stomach of watching the same QB fall short every time we need it and our coach won’t even try to do something diff…. Let Days run on 4th down since everyone in the stadium know’s its coming anyway. The QB’s decision making out weights the other players so why not platoon them and everyone in the stadium can evaluate. Very simple! What would be wrong with this?
unajacket
October 18th, 2012
6:01 pm
TW does seem to have a problem at crunch time & some great players don’t practice worth a damn.
... Take The Wheel
October 18th, 2012
6:09 pm
@Killer Beez –
You do understand that as big of fans as we may be we are on the outside looking in?? The coaches (not just CPJ) see them everyday! They see all the things you and I can only speculate about. And for whatever reason, at this point they dont think the others are good enough to unseat him. Has he made some huge mistakes – yes. Has he made some huge plays to keep us in contention – yes. Neither the VT game or UM game should have gone to OT. The game was won. We needed 1 stop!
I really like Days. He’s shown himself to be incredibly committed and talented. He’s jumped right in and filled a needed spot at A-back and honestly is making a difference for us there. I applaud him for that. This could turn out to be a blessing in disguise for him and the program. Because we all know QB’s dont usually go on to greatness from our program.
I dont think anything should be based on what year the other QBs are in. I dont know what the deal is with Lavaedeay. If he is as wonderful as everyone proclaims, I wish he would friggin step up at practice, cause thats where it all starts! I would be calling for PJs head if he just handed the reigns over to any player who hasn’t earned it beyond a shadow of doubt. When he has rotated Lavaedeay in, its been a mixed bag – honestly. Not great, not terrible – but definitely not enough to overthrow.
My 2 chief complaints about CPJ is that we dont rotate QBs situationally, and we need more plays for crunch time situations. Mix it up for peets sake. I think doing these would at least give opposing D’s something to think about. But we are somewhat predictable. That puts even more pressure on TW and the rest of our offense.
I CRINGE every time on 4th & 1. TW has converted a couple but we’ve had enough fails on that play to go with something else. Give the ball to Laskey or Snoddy or SOMETHING! Heck move Uzzi and let him cram it in there! We need a couple of seldom used plays to throw in there for 4th & short. Days has the size for it but he has to hang on to the ball.
I still think that if we get our D and ST clicking we will be contenders.
GT79MD83
October 18th, 2012
8:27 pm
@ GT TN– I will not resort to name calling. I know the defense is bad but if TW had played better in the 4th quarter of the Utah, Miami, MTSU and Clemson game we could have won in spite of the defense.Same goes for the OT losses to VT and Miami.I hope the team goes 6-0 but suspect we will finish 2-4.I care about wins. We have very few playmakers. TW made some good plays in the 4th Quarter of the VT game, but was not a factor in the 4th quarter of the other games.That is when you win games.
1 4 GT
October 18th, 2012
9:11 pm
I don’t know that I really care to participate in a blog where phonies can show up one day and start out posting, at least IMHO, being personally offensive in their blog behavior to myself & others as well. And no I am not being thin skinned. Then when the moderator calls that person out on their blog behavior, all they get is toothless warnings. So maybe they do change their blog handle, but manages to do so in a still offensive manner. BFD!! If the moderator does not have the authority to ban someone, then who does. And BTW, the individual I am talking about “cussed out”, without actually “cussing”, the moderator, & said moderator seemingly ignored it. Words have meaning! Either your word means something or it does not mean anything. You take a stand or you stand for nothing. Which is it? I know what I would do. IN A HEARTBEAT TOO!!!!
GT Joe
October 18th, 2012
10:08 pm
Take the wheel: your blind faith in the decision-making of CPJ is mind boggling. Yes, he sees all the players in practice, and we don’t. Could he possibly be wrong, or is he the anointed one, never makes mistakes, ever?
You do realized that this is the guy that hired Al Groh. AND KEPT HIM FOR 3+ years.
GT79MD83
October 19th, 2012
12:05 am
@ Take The Wheel– Here are some more numbers. How many points has our offense scored in OT and the 4th quarter in our last 6 losses? A total of 30 or 5 per game.If you do not count the VT game the number is 20.If the offense had scored any points in the Utah or Miami game in the 4th quarter we would have won them.Our defense has stunk and given up 98 in the 4th and OT.If the defense had made stops in the 4th quarter of the Utah, VT and Miami game we would have won them.Obviously both the offense and the defense need to play better late in the games..I am not saying everything is TWs fault but his play in the 4th quarter and OT has not helped. Some of the fault also goes to CPJs playcalling in the 4th quarter.I agree 100% that the biggest problem has been the defense. I do expect better quarterback play late in games.Maybe TW is or best option,
...Take The Wheel
October 19th, 2012
12:49 am
@Joe – really??? Out of 104593747 points I made previously you wanna talk to me about blind faith?? You mean…. blind faith like …. starting a QB who hasn’t first proven himself worthy in practice?? A QB you liken to “AI”??? PJ should just have blind faith in his abilities right? Oh…ok
And let’s just ignore the fact that PJ, although head coach, has other coaches who assist in assessing player readiness and progress.
...Take The Wheel
October 19th, 2012
12:58 am
@GT79MD83 – touché
There’s plenty of blame to go around. Plenty of missed opportunities on both sides of the ball. No one fix will do it. I think the right people know that and they are probably up RIGHT NOW working on a new plan for a great come back!