Tech notes: Jackets move forward without Groh

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And disregard the typos. Cat on the keyboard.

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Maybe the guys will have some fun play a lil loose and get the job done on D.

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Fresh start, lets move on.

Thank you to Coach Groh, We know they hard work and many hours he gave to the institute, Wish it had turned out better for everyone.

Ken, Thanks to you for providing objective information during this time, It must be a challenge trying to please the fans on this board.

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I’m sure CPJ feels a lot less burdened now that the trigger was pulled. Good to read the guys seem energized & pumped. Do the work between now & the 20th. Stay the course, do the job & come the 20th & open a can of “whoopass” on BC. Y’all can do it!! GOOOOO JACKETS THWGeorgie

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Changing coches is like washing your car….not as easy as spray and rinse. You sometimes have to give special attention to the bugs .

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Ken,

Since the basketball team has opened practice when can we get your first impressions of this years squad?

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Ken it occured to me there is one way you could do a better job-if you went to an occasional practice….this paranoia about closing practices, it deprives the fans of data on a very important aspect of the season-is it because the media covering other teams are going to spy?

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Find it odd that the receivers are changing so much during the game. How can any of them be evaluated as a starter when none of them see much true action on the field. Talking about letting the receivers get in a rhythm. You have 6′ 6″ wide receivers with speed yet they only get balls thrown at them when we are behind. Maybe if we threw the ball to them more you could really see some players step up and be play makers. Whoever they play at receiver… let them have a real chance to be play makers. So you start a true freshman. Is he doing more than anyone else. If he has a bigger upside…why not use this philosphy in other positions. Coaching decisions have me scratching my head a lot this year.

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i agree with “ATLGNT” – i’d like to see more passing EARLY in the games to open up the running game. don’t wait until we fall behind and the other team knows we HAVE to pass.

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@ Ken – any chance you’re willing to appease a fanbase that covers potential candidates for the DC job? I think if Kelly does a good job, he’s gotta be on the short list. Any word from the administration how much they’re willing to spend on a defensive coordinator or staff as a whole? The trend lately, by winning teams at least, is to spend some serious dough on assistants. The Fridge was once the highest paid coordinator in college football – we won a lot in those years, maybe a good idea, can we do it again?

My list would be:

Kirby Smart (snowball’s chance, but addresses recruiting AND execution to a T),
Giff Smith (maybe, same as Smart but to a lesser degree, but w/ Tech history),
Shannon (is he interested? good players coach, good defense, good recruiting – Florida AND Texas, maybe the best overall get)
Kelly (go with the devil you know),
Lesser known up-and-comer (probably given D-Rad’s hires for football and basketball).

I think when you throw in recruting and defense, Shannon might be the best overall hire. If he could open up Texas for us again and help us finally seal the deal with some Plant, Jesuit, and Drs. Kropp and Phillips high school kids, we’d definitely be on a higher talent plane at a minimum.

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PJ doesn`t trust Tevins throwing ability, you have to admit he does chunk some ducks.
maybe next year.

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Hey it is what it is. Lets see if this team can move forward. I would think they will relax and play some football for a change.

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@adams 56.
The offense is not the problem.
If a team lets another team they have whipped back in the game, the beaten team takes the momentum into OT and usually wins.
Do that three times in 5 games and u have a demoralized team that will lose to whover they play the next week.
There used to be a college called Slippery Rock.
The MTSU week we might have lost to them as well.
Groh wrecked the program.
He was the exact opposite of Tenuta.
Tenuta may up for deficiencies with clever blitzes.
Now sometimes he did it too much but most of the time it worked.
Maybe the 2 and 3 star players got coached up to 3 and 4 star level.
With Groh’s lack of pressure defense, opponent’s QB have never felt so comfortable in Bobby Dodd Stadium.

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Maybe I should change my name to Dennis Green of “we let them off the hook” fame after his Arizona Cardinals lost to the Chi Bears after kicking their butts for 3 quarters about 5 years ago
Poor guy.
A missed FG cost him and the Vikings a trip to the Superbowl in 1998 and another missed FG cost the Cardinals their last chance in the game just mentioned.

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@Jmonty.
Finally someone on here I can agree with.
Thanks for showing up before I start channeling Dennis Green.

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I could be wrong about our players but I think they are a lot better than they have shown.
I think Groh demoralized them.
At least that is why I will continue to show up.
Jamea Thomas is going to be a top cornerback before he leaves if he isn’t already.
Although Isaiah Johnson has missed some tackles, I am hoping he will improve his game.
It is tough to tackle folks in the open field.
All of our secondary cannot be fairly evaluated while Groh was letting the other team’s QB get comfortable with his no blitz defense.

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@JMonty.
Agreed.
I have hated all my life throwing any Yellow Jackets under the bus.
I recall when very young a player droped a last chance pass that might have won the game.
On his tv show and in the newspaper, Dodd said the player’s momentum would have carried him out of bounds anyway.
He didn’t want a player to take the blame for losing a game.
I could have blasted the kicker who missed the extra point that would have tied the Georgia game at 35 in 2010. (Tevin would have been the hero in that game with any help from the defense.)
I didn’t but I might have if I knew how aften Tevin’s would be trashed in the future.
We turned Tevin loose on that one drive against clemson, passing 3 out of 4 and scored in a flash.
Yet failed to do that again when Clemson’s weakness (one of them) is their pass defense.

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Supersize told me and may have posted that Clemson fans are glad Tevin is graduating.
They would prefer to face the messiah Vad.
Tevin’s handling of the offense are the reason Godhigh and Smith were able to average 17 yards a rush.
His critics assume Synjyn or Vad can do that too.
They can’t.

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dr. huh….dr. of what????dumbtuckery…………………..

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@1 4 GT.
Feel free to use my quip “downbeat after a beatdown, are u?” on any dwag trolls who visit when I am not around.

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MaconGTFan: Vad misread 3 consecutive plays? LOL, how would you know? Did you ever think that maybe those plays were designed to be b-back dives? Did you ever think that maybe those plays were set from the get-go? You don’t know the play call.

JD: I remember Demaryius dropping a wide open pass to extend the UGA game. Did ANYONE throw him under the bus? No, because he had been a great all around player not known for making mistakes. Tevin? He makes mistakes EVERY GAME. Some that COST us the game.

Stephen Hill dropped a LOT of passes, and he wasn’t really “protected” by the fans; why should Tevin be treated with kid gloves? Geez he’s like 23 years old.

New nickname: Teflon Tevin.

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What with recent events, I expect to see a good crowd for the BC game. I expect to see a re-energized bunch of fans in the stands the 20th. Butt sniffers be damed. GOOOOO JACKETS THWGeorgie

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@MaconGTFan.
Some Tevin critics are so dumb they criticize him for scoring too many TDs.
The pitch to the A-back has some risk so if u can score, do it.
The other team, from having failed to stop the A back, may concentrate on him more inside the five yardline making keeping the ball the right play.
How can anyone criticize a play that results in a TD?

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@GT Fan.
Agreed.
No mentioned today is whether the new ST coach is earning his pay.
Why have we had kickoff returns that either were a safety or set up a safety?
My point is on both sides of the ball and STs is the coaches are the ones losing our games.
The return man who slipped had made a great tackle on a punt return earlier.
Was that his first return of a KO?
I thought the ball bounced and he should have let it go into the endzone and down it.
A safety there pretty much ended our chances.

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@Joe I’ve shut you up before and I’ll do it again. For god sake, you were dumb enough to say that NFL qb’s get benched for being sacked, which alone proves how low of a football IQ you have. And about Vad on that drive, even Riley Skinner, who was the play by play guy in that game, called him out for his misreads. And here’s how I know it wasn’t a called dive. Anytime since 08 PJ has called a dive, the QB never runs to the corner while the a-back follows. He hands off and stands there. Nesbit did it and Tevin has done it. And while you’re on the subject of us not knowing he’s ready, how do you know he is, minus some YouTube videos you obviously watch religiously. And don’t go giving us mop up duty stats either where he’s facing 2nd or 3rd string defenses.

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The defense has always been one of the weaknesses of GT. Nothing new, but in CPJ’s offense, a QB that could pound out a yard or 1 could win ball games. Vad can pass, Tevin can’t pass or get a yard when needed.

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Who is Maryland’s DC????
The worst defense in the ACC has blossomed into one of the best, this despite a coordinator change and a defensive scheme shift. Headed into their game at Virginia (2-4, 0-2) on Saturday, the Terps (3-2, 1-0) rank No. 2 in the ACC in total defense and No. 7 in the nation. That group is a big reason why Maryland has already surpassed its win total from a year ago.

Consider these outstanding stats:
•For the first time since 1999, Maryland has held its opponent under 300 yards of total offense in four of the season’s first five games. West Virginia was the only team to go over 300 yards. But, consider Maryland held the Mountaineers to a season-low 363 total yards of offense and a season-low 31 points.

•The Terps rank seventh nationally in total defense (257.2 ypg), seventh in rushing defense (81 ypg) and 15th in passing defense (176.2 ypg). They are holding opponents to 2.3 yards a carry to rank third nationally.

•Last week, Wake Forest managed just 45 yards in the second half, including only 4 in the entire fourth quarter. Maryland has been at its best in the second half all year, giving up an average of just 121.4 yards in the second half.

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Tevin has already graduated & is working on a Masters.

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Thanks 1 4. As soon as Tevin gets that Masters degree, Vad will magically “be ready”.

It’s funny how it works out that way.

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next game in sanford there will be 93,000 red shirts there. compared to, what, 15, 000 gt fans. 15000 ‘angry’ uga fans, would never drown out the other 88k real fans.

Let’s see 15,000 + 88,000 = 93,000 — nice
sTroll away now….

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Tevin in not a bad QB and the Offense is not the problem. But I think many GT fans believe the offense could have been and will be much better with Vad. The only way that happens is with PT. The season has been a total waste so far.

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@GT Fan.
Good info.
If Paul Johnson had just hired someone like that, where would we be the last 3 years?
I’m still curious what kind of search he did after firing Wommack.
Rather than take any of the blame for the 2009 Uga loss, he tossed Wommack under the bus.
Groh should not have been allowed to attend our practices.
What kind of creep shows up so soon after a firing hoping for an opening somewhere else?

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Beez: Offense is not a problem? Let’s see:

VT Game: 0 pts in OT
Miami game: 0 pts in the last 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter, 4th quarter and OT
MTSU game: 7 pts in the 2nd half.
Clemson game: 10 pts in 2nd half, 3 pts. in the 4th quarter.

Not gonna cut it. Either blame the coach, the scheme, or the players. Which is it.

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Aight then Joe answer me this, if he made the right call or reads, then why wasn’t he put back in until a minute left in the game? Its because he made the wrong reads and PJ knew he did. You’re just an idiot who thinks he knows everything. Again, there’s a reason Vad isn’t starting and its because he doesn’t know how to properly run the offense. And minus Nesbit, no QB is gonna get out there without knowing how to run it.

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3 games given away by Groh’s no pressure defense.
That resulted in a demoralized team against MTSU.
Tevin did not demoralize the team.
Al Groh did.
The cancer is finally gone and now we can hope again.
Not happy about the three lost years where we seldom got a stop and even less in the 4th qt.

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Teflon Tevin demoralizes a team like no one else. Look at the team reaction after the INT at VT. Even on the sidelines, you’d think a group of players would surround him, etc., but nobody came.

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Joe
Against Uga, the SC QB underthrew the ball exactly like Tevin did.
Was there a pick?
No.
The WR caught the ball first.
Then he shed the defender and ran to the Uga one yard line.
Other teams have WRs who can catch the ball.
We don’t and haven;t for years with the TO.
I have defended our WRs in that they seldom get a chance.
But they seldom make plays like WRs on other teams.
Dude.
MTSU should not be able to hang with GT for a quarter even.
The MTSU loss is on the whole team.
But I defend that team because I think Groh demoralized them.
Tevin in that game was playing on a team that looked pitiful on defense against a pitiful team.
That is one game you really have to stretch things to pin on him.

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MaconFan: your logic is idiotic. do you think if vad ran those plays right, he would stay in the game until he messed up? What a fool. By your logic, Tevin would have been benched after misreading the Miami defense in OT. Or after misreading the 4th down in the 1st quarter at clemson.

And i never said he dumbed it down for vad. I said MAYBE. Because i’m not arrogant like you to think i KNOW the answer. Again, you don’t have the right to your own facts.

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Wow JD. A new low for Teflon Tevin apologists. Blaming WRs for Tevin’s underthrown ducks.

Now this is getting comical.

And please stop throwing our WRs under the bus! They are just children! (sarcasm).

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On 3rd thought, it’s not the WRs fault for being so fast, or not running at 80% of full speed. It’s the coaches fault.

Fire the WR coach ASAP.

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MaconFool: Tech hasn’t had a receiver that could catch since…………………
Tevin became starter.

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Whatever Joe, you’re the only one saying that so it goes towards you and you alone.

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How is that a dodge when you are the only one that says PJ dumbed it down. Also love how you haven’t answered my question about if Vads ready then why would PJ have to dumb it down for Vad. Nice dodge there twice.

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“Then Stewart (maryland’s new d coor) told Hartsfield he is not the type to sit back, He wants to bring pressure.
Hartsfield was sold. He now leads the team in tackles.”
Stewart also, to my surprise, uses the 3-4.
But he is much, much more AGGRESSIVE with it.
Al Groh’s D is old man football.
What a menace.

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Ken, what do you think about me emailing your posted link to CPJ with wording that should not insult him or anything similar?

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Nice dodge there Joe. You’ve said plenty of times on this blog Vads ready, now when I ask you a question about if he’s ready, then why would PJ possibly dumb the o down for him. Again no real answer. And I think I’ll trust Skinners assessment over some idiot who spouts the same crap day in and day out for over a month straight now.

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Ahhh…GT Joe is back

Blaming Tevin for losses even though he leads the 27th best scoring offense in the nation, and 22nd in total offense.

GT Joe won’t tell us that in order to overcome the wretched defense of the past 3 games we’d have to have the firepower of the 6th best scoring offense in the nation…and of course in his mind Vad Lee is the answer.

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Why don’t you two children stop with the “did too, did not” kaka??!! Like a couple of 3 year olds. You’re very tiresome.

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Jacket Detective said … “Stewart also, to my surprise, uses the 3-4.”
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That’s G-D right! Now, anyone who thinks GT can’t, consistently, get better (equal at worse) talent than Maryland is a fool.

Like I started posting after the Miami debacle ….. “it ain’t the O, Groh’s gotta go”
I gotta believe CK can’t be worse than AG, right?

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juvenal….obsessive, he’s@nal retentive about Tevin. Some of tried to tell Joe he’s made his point & we too wany to see Vad play, but it is not our decision. Joe continues on though. He must not have a braille computer screen, just a braille keyboard.

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FL Jacket, my favorite Tevin apologist. Yeah, the offense is awesome. Highly ranked in everything. Except OT scoring, 4th quarter scoring, 2nd half scoring…. you know… when games are won? LOL.

But let’s blame the defense on our 2nd half scoring. 7 pts vs MTSU in 30 minutes? Scoreless against Miami in the last 25 min of regulation plus OT? 3 points in the 4th quarter vs. Miami?

Yeah, offense is great. Nothing to see here. Move along.

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GT Joe…

I’m the apologist, yet your defense is basically “instead of scoring 37 points per game, we need to score 47 points per game”.

When your team is up, you run clock, just like teams in the NFL and pretty much every major CFB program does when it has a lead. When it works, you get an 8-minute death march drive against Clemson in 2011 that ices the game. When it doesn’t, at least you run 2+ minutes off the clock and don’t turn it over.

You blame Tevin, and then when you try to justify you immediately revert your language to “offense”. How appropos. Offense entails blocking, as much as anything else. It entails catching the ball. It entails running the ball hard.

Hard to say it’s Tevin’s fault all the time, isn’t it? MTSU is a great example, especially when Jeff Greene drops 3 very catchable balls (aside from the underthrown one you keep referencing). Especially when Orwin Smith catches a 4th-and17 pass at the line to gain…then cuts back to get more yardage and ends up getting tackled short.

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www: thanks for another enlightening contribution. Your smartest post yet.

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If do right, no can defense

November 26th, 2011
3:49 pm

Tevin Washington, good bye. I’d like to see Synjyn Days & Vad Lee (if he stays here) compete for the starting spot next spring…
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5150 UOAD

November 26th, 2011
4:37 pm

Our Passing D is what we knew it was except for 1 game. Tevin Washington is what we thought he was all season.Tevin threw some of the worst passes I have ever seen. he was not on the same page with the WRs ever today. The First was an easy TD if the B-Back sees hill and throws it earlier instead of the Sky High DUCK in the middle of the field.
Congrats Tevin Washington. You have 1 more game as Tech’s QB. Please make some plays in the bowl game.
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OldSchoolTechFanatic

November 26th, 2011
7:13 pm

I still beleive in the offense but not with tevin ball in there ! I have lost a lot of respect for CPJ this year. I said six weeks ago we needed to play Vad Lee, oh no we can’t do that we might loose some games. Well guess what we did and now instead of giving Vad some game experince this year we will have another green QB next year. Now if we loose recruits like we did last year after the season was over we deserve it. Why in the world did CPJ stick with tevin ball ? Anybody could see as the talent we played went up (except Clemson, and Oh the reminds me so much of Reg Ball) tevin balls play went down.
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OldSchoolTechFanatic

November 26th, 2011
7:39 pm

If tevin ball is quarter back next year I will not watch GT football.

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D, D, D …. gotta get some D!

Even with TW at QB (I think most fans believe Vad has more upside), GT’s O does more than enough to win. Yeah, a long, time-consuming drive (even w/o scoring) here & there in the 2nd half would be nice. But I challenge any team (other than Oregon or West “F’n” Virginia) to give up 47, 49, & 42 in consecutive weeks and see if they aren’t 0-3 too.

And to reverse that thought … I wonder how many teams would still be 0-3 after scoring 31, 28 & 36 in consecutive weeks. Al Groh’s D, in the past 3 weeks, just disappeared. How did that happen?

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Perhaps the rules have changed, but I was unaware that points scored in crunch time – however that’s defined – counted for more than points scored at other points during the game.

I need further clarification on the crunch time thing, too, because apparently scoring with 44 seconds to go in the game doesn’t qualify. I’ll hang up and listen.

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George: Would OT or 4th quarter of close games qualify as “crunch time” to you? Let’s see:

VT game OT: scoreless
Miami game OT: scoreless
Miami game 4th quarter: scoreless
Clemson game 4th quarter: 3 points
MTSU game 2nd half: 7 points

But define crunch time however you like.

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Lets blank BC. Go Jackets!

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If offense isn’t a problem for our team (which is ranked 36th in scoring), then I guess everyone on this blog would be satisfied with our team being ranked 36th overall?

BTW, our offense was #27 last year, so we are even worse than last year.

Nesbitt’s last full year? #14. Discuss.

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You assume all teams have the same number of possessions, Joe. Because all teams don’t play the same style, giving raw numbers paints an incomplete picture. You should judge an offense by points per possession or yards per play, etc.

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Do first half points count less?

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What are you even talking about?

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If anyone is defending Tevin Washington at QB, please try to remember your first thoughts after the UGA game last year…i and everyone else was happy that someone else would be QB next year, cuase surely TW wasn’t going to win the job…fast forward to 2012, and here we are.

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Can I have more information? If we’re dealing in hypotheticals, can you tell me how good our defense is? Special teams? I can’t answer the question without more info.

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And we should all be satisfied that our fearless leader, Teflon Tevin, is doing so well in the 2nd half of games, because being #66 in 2nd scoring is okay. in the bottom 50% of teams, but still okay.

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Can anyone name a worse GT QB? Don’t even mention Reggie Ball. Pretty sure Reggie averaged more wins than Tevin, never had a losing season, and won a bowl game…

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Strawmen? LOL, ummmm kay.

How about YOU “select” some observations of Tevin. Why is he the starter?

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Argue with yourself, Joe.

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Spoken like a man with no facts to back him up.

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George, what criteria would you use to judge a qb?

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I don’t take a one size fits all approach, Joe. Also, without knowing what the plays are, it’s challenging to know what he was supposed to do. However, traditional metrics like W/L, completion percentage, and touchdown passes are useless.

Gun to my head, I want to know yards per attempt and interceptions per attempt (because his job is typically not to throw it to the other team).

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By Joe’s logic….If I’ve read correctly, “crunch time” = 4th quarter. That seems to fit the loose criteria of the premise being put forth. So!! According to Joe’s logic wanting to replace Tevin for “poor” play in “crunch time” = replacing WR’s dropping passes in “crunch time” = replacing RB’s not gaining yards in “crunch time” = replacing OLmen for poor blocking in “crunch time” = replacing coaches for coaching poor techniques in “crunch time” = replacing HC for poor play calling in “crunch time” = no offense left to play in “crunch time” = forfeit in game = basically a big fat “F” for the season. Joe’s logic cannot measure up to Mr. Spock’s logic.

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wow, George, can you be anymore non committal? you just come on the blogs to poke holes in everyone else’s opinions but give no opinions of your own. since you have no criteria to judge quarterbacks, you really should not be judging anyone else is criteria to judge quarterbacks.

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New Energy?
Fresh Start?
Really?
I really don’t know what to write –
Words cannot describe the frustration- we are at least supposed to be a smart school.
Really guys you can’t believe that

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Right on, yeller bug, right on. In the words of yore.

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I sure hope our buddy PuffDawggy (aka superDawg) didn’t take that loss to SC too hard and off himself. I’ve been looking for him on all the blogs to see if he’ll be joining us before a game like he said he would, but I can’t find him anywhere.

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Not surprised Lee, not surprised.

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“points is points, doesn’t matter when you get them”. By that logic, I guess it doesn’t matter if we score tons in the 1st half and get zero in overtime. Can’t win with zero in overtime, fyi. Maybe it does matter what period you score in…Hmm…

anyways, #36 in scoring offense is not enough for us to challenge for titles or go.500 for that matter.

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GT Fan: You cite 31, 28, 36 a lot, as if that’s a lot of scoring. The FACT is, that gets you ranked #36 in scoring offense. The FACT is, 33.6 pts/game is not what it USED to be.

If our offense is #36 in scoring, we would need a top 10 scoring defense just to be ranked in the top 25 (generally speaking, of course).

That said, if our defense was as good as our offense (which you think is fine), then our team would likely be #36 in the country, give or take.

Happy with that ranking?

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and GT Fan: we are #66 in 2nd half scoring. Is that the defense’s fault? Or does Tevin take ANY blame at all?

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Except that YPA accounts for that, Joe, because he won’t hit on those at as high as a rate. As for interceptions, I said they are generally the QBs fault, but that there are exceptions.

I’m through discussing this – and anything else – with you now.

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Oh but George, YPA doesn’t account for those incompletions that aren’t the QB’s fault, using your same logic on INTs.

Holes everywhere…

Go back to being non-committal. that way, you can’t be wrong.

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good boy.

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LOL, said the lil kid who took his ball and went home after getting whooped.

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Joe is becoming more & more like a mutt………..always trolling & stirring up the kaka.

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I am also looking forward to seeing Vad – but appreciate that CPJ knows best when to bring him on. Vad will make more mistakes and there is the issue of trying to get bowl eligible.That said I think CPJ wants to get Vad as much experience as possible while giving the team the best chance at winning Tevin is a great young man, but it is very evident opposing teams do not respect his passing. While the goals have shifted this year, getting to a bowl is pretty important for practice time and exposure and Tevin may be the best bet in that respect. I still tend to agree that we should play Vad more – even with broken plays, Vad is dynamic. Regardless what transpires, like CAG, Tevin deserves our thanks for giving his all for GT.

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Good grief Joe, give it a rest. Even WnE doesn’t beat a horse to death, excluding his hatred for CPJ & GT…….oh wait….that’s it…..you to hate CPJ & GT…..using Tevin as your target….AHHHHHH!! How very devious of you.

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1 4: I guess you are okay with CPJ burning the 2011 and now 2012 seasons on Tevin?

If Vad comes in and looks like the 2nd coming of Joe Hamilton, CPJ will be safe because we’ll be winning. In reality, CPJ will be a clown for throwing away 2 seasons by not starting Vad.

And if Vad isn’t better than TW? Then CPJ really needs to go. If he can’t coach a supreme athlete to outperform Tevin, he has problems.

I’ve said it a million times. I don’t hate tevin. He’s a nice guy. but i hate that CPJ accepts his performances; he benches everyone else for the most minor of mistakes. Teflon Tevin wouldn’t get benched if he smacked CPJ’s mama.

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Along the lines of CPJ being Vain, i think because of his vanity, he chooses a qb based on how perfectly he runs his offense, ignoring the idea that a supreme athlete (running and passing) can win you more games despite running the offense less “perfectly”.

Also, he is so married to tevin right now, so much invested in his decision to go with Tevin (remember, he redshirted Vad last year to go with tevin), that he can’t/won’t start Vad just so he can’t be proven wrong.

My opinion.

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And I/we know you’ve said it a million times. Please give US a rest. Send CPJ an email. you can find his email addy on ramblingwreck,com. & while you’re at it. hit DRad up with one too. Maybe they haven’t even thought of it yet.

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Joe – as much as I would like to see Vad start, unfortunately I can tell that it is not happening against BC. CPJ made the big change on D so his perspective I’m sure is to see how that change alone affects the team. Should we get knocked off by the Eagles, maybe…maybe then he might consider some another major change. But I suspect we will play with energy and win easily…so Vad will just have to keep that spot on the pine warm.

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Joe, probably the best we can hope for is blowout early so the kid can get some pt.

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GT Joe – Tevin also led the drive at the end of the VT game including a great throw on 4th down that should have ended the game. He also led us back from 22 ? down to take the lead by 17 over Miami. Neither game should ave gone into OT with a decent D – many great QB’s have screwed up not getting enough on the ball as they were falling.

If I remember rightly , we had no other decent options with Reggie Ball and Sean when they started – whereas Tevin will likely give us a win if the D can even slow down the opposing team. I still want to see Vad though – the pass he threw against Presbyterian to Green? was a thing of beauty – dropped it right in his hands on the run . I really believe we will see a lot more of Vad against BC

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GT Joe – a second string blogger

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Joe, I’m gonna say this 1 last time. After this, I will skip over anything you post from here on….if you reply to this I will ignore it. I & a great many more would like to see Vad get playing time, but I/we cannot force the issue. That being said, every, repeat every, football game has ebbs & flows of emotion in it & football is a game of emotional ups & downs. In the VT game, the offense, lead by Tevin, put the game in the hands of the defense with a 3 point lead & 44 seconds on the clock. All that was needed was one play, I repeat, one (1) play on 4th & long. The defense allowed a completion and a long run to put VT in field goal range. It wasn’t the completion that put the game into overtime, it was the run after the catch. The defender that should have been covering that receiver was out of position. Tevin should have never been put in the position of having to make a play in overtime. You got that. Yeah, Tevin screwed up, but by all that is holy, since you want to blame the losses on him alone, then I will do the opposite…..TEVIN HAD THE GAME WON….and the defense lost it.

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JOE….UVa….No problems! OK!

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Ya, Tevin had the game won…til he lost it.

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Joe….Miami…they jumped out to a 19-0 lead in the 1st quarter. Something lit up in the team & they said whoa…this can’t happen. They ran off 36 straight points to go up 36-19. The team thought this is more like it. They went in as 14 point favorites thinking “we bad, yeah we bad”! Miami kicked them in the stones & said no you’re not. They woke up & fought back. They went up 17 points and eased up thinking they had it in the bag. Miami fought back. They ran off 23 straight points. The defense collapsed. The offense lost their edge and couldn’t get it back, for whatever reason. This was an emotional game of highs & lows. Tevin made some bad plays, no doubt. All but the VERY BEST would be subject to do the same, given the circumstances of the game. Miami scored the TD to tie with less than a minute if I recall correctly. One stop! ONE STOP & the game ends 36-29 GT win. ONE STOP that the defense should have been able to generate. Tevin should never have been put in the position of having to make plays in overtime. LOSS=defense’s inability to get ONE STOP late in the game. Buncha sissies! (not really guys…just making a point)

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Joe….MTSU….Not much to say about this one….the whole team….from the stands on the 45 yard line….looked very lethargic….the defense moreso. The offense had spurts but really couldn’t maintain it. Who knows? Maybe they were trying to get Groh fired. I don’t really think so, but I guess it’s possible. I’m not a mind reader. I just know they had no fire that day. I think they would have had a really hard time beating anyone that day.

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I just watched the highlights of the VT & Miami games. To my surprise, and will be to everyone else who hasn’t seen, Tevin Washington missed a sure tackle on 4th & 4 that the Hokies turn into a 1st down, and game-tying FG.

Then in the Miami heartbreaker, Tevin was right there again when the Miami RB caught the pass at the GT 8′ish yd line, but TW whiffed again on the tackle, and Miami tied the game at 36.

I think GT might be better off if TW quit playing D. Didn’t PJ learn when Teving failed the D twice on 4th downs in the 4th qtr vs. Utah in the Sun Bowl?

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Joe….Clemons….From my recliner, I thought this game was gonna be won by whichever team had the final possession. Neither team had much of a defense. Then the GT defense seemed to be getting worn down. When I heard the announcers say that Clemons had run 93 offensive plays, I thought no wonder they’re tired. Not enough depth hurt us. Clemons took over the game late and pulled away with a 16 point win. Tevin had a good game until, as you call it, “crunch time”. I will admit Tevin appears to get rattled under duress/stress & he did indeed play poorly late in that game. I readily concede that point. But I simply cannot put all of the blame on Tevin for the 4 losses. Unlike you. I see the whole game. With a defense that was at least 50% better, I truly believe GT would have won the Sun Bowl & be no worse than 5 & 1 now, maybe, a big maybe, we would have beaten Clemons & be 6 & 0. Everything does not fall on Tevin for the 4 losses. Does he have to accept some blame for them? Yes! But so does the defense! And the offense too! I really want Vad to succeed & be all that we hope he is. I also know that Tevin does not deserve all of the blame. And I really do wish you would give a it a rest. You harp on it daily! Cut us, your fellow Tech fans, (I guess you are from your handle, though I do wonder if you’re not a mutt agitator) some slack.

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Lets not go for GTJoes manipulation. Does anyone else notice that no matter what the article is about, he (or she) finds a way to shift the conversation to TW? Kinda seems personal at this point. Dont let him (or her) rob us of the positive momentum building for the team. This particular article is not a debate about the best QB. God bless them both. And lets support whoever walks out on that field wearing the beloved blue and gold.

If the “team” is rebounding and showing good energy in the face of recent turmoil, then lets do the same. Lets do our best to get back to having fun! Yes winning cures all…. but it is a game!! Shouldn’t it be fun??

…. anyone notice Penn State fans these days? There still there, still rallying for their players win or loose.

GO JACKETS!

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GT Fan: I just watched the highlights of the VT and Miami game again. We were SO right to fire Al Groh! Groh really shouldn’t have thrown that interception in OT, and what was Groh thinking on that 4th down play in OT vs. Miami?!?! Senile.

No wonder our offense is #36 in scoring, and #66 in 2nd half scoring…Al Groh!

Now that he’s gone, we can go back to what we’ve been doing since TW took over….sub .500 football!

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… watching the VT and Miami games AGAIN??? can we say “OBSESSED”! GTJoe needs something to do with herself! This fixation you have isnt healthy.lol

Again I say, lets not allow this person (who I seriously believe is a scorned ex) to hijack our page. This is the GT page not TW page!

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check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge86vScRXr8

focus on 4:20 and later, the 4th down play that tevin misread, kept the ball and failed, costing us the miami game. It was supposed to be a pitch to Orwin, but Tevin kept the ball.

Now watch carefully at Orwin #17’s reaction after the play. He goes to #25 (the blocking a-back) immediately, probably like “WTF was that? wasn’t i supposed to get the ball?” Goes off screen with #25, then walks up to Tevin, puts his hands up, finds out he failed on the measurement, and just turns his back on TW and walks off.

Yep, now that Al Groh is gone, won’t have that problem any more.

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CPJ if you’re reading… PLEASE lets see a flee flicker or something fun just to shake it up next game!! With Days in the game, that gives us a chance to really confuse opposing defenses if they have to worry about 2 different passers!!

GO JACKETS!

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@ GT Joe… Why the hate towards TW??? You do know, he is just a kid play in the system that is given for him, right?? I really don’t blame TW. If Groh could had done a better job with the “D” and getting pressure on the other team’s QB, TW wouldn’t had to be perfect. No…. TW is not the second coming of RG3 or Cam Newton, by a far shot. He does not have the arm or the speed. I am not even saying he does. However; he does have game experience. He knows the option pretty well. Does he make mistakes?? Of course he does.. It’s part of the game… mistakes are part of being human. I think TW is just a tad better than Vad… Once Vad gets game experience… I think he is going to be really good. However; it is what it is. The cancer known as Groh cost us games due to his non pressure idiotic defense. It was supposed to be a 2 gap system. Issue is, he never taught them how to cover those gaps. The players looked lost. That is the whole reason why we have so many loses. Groh basically lost the VT, MTSU and Miami games. I don’t think we would had beat Clemson. But we definitely should had won those 3 games I mentioned. TW is talented enough to score points. Groh just wasn’t good enough to cover things on the defensive side.

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GT Joe, trying to get you to understand the “lack of defense” concept is like forcing the square peg in the round hole. At some point one just realizes it’s just not going to go through.

Better DEFENSE by GT and Tevin’s not having to make the plays you are calling him out for.

There are 3 phases of football: offense, defense and special teams. Not Tevin, Tevin and Tevin.

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Jmonty … don’t forget the OT loss in the SUN Bowl. In GT Joe’s eyes it was Tevin who allowed not 1, but two 4th down TD passes. The second a 28 yd TD pass to tie the game on 4th & 14 from GT’s 28 yd line!
Dang-it, Tevin!! Learn to cover somebody!

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Soooooo how bout those Jackets!!?? You know… the other 50-60 players that suit up!! I hear they are playing with a lot more energy in the last few practices. Cant wait to see them alllll play.

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@ Jmonty
Per Rivals
Jessie Williams Height 6′4 Weight 320 3 Star
Ed Stintson Height 6′4 Weight 285 4 Star
Damion Square Height 6′3 Weight 286 4 Star

Georgia Tech Defensive Starters
TJ Barnes 6′7 345 3 Star
Emanuel Dieke 6′6 285 3 Star
Izaan Cross 6′4 300 3 Star

No 5 Stars for Alabama and Tech is still comparable for every other team that runs a 3-4 and I’m including Florida, Tenn, Stanford, Notre Dame, and Maryland. I know damn well Tech can get comparable and better players than ND, Stanford and Maryland (whose defense is stout and aggressive)

The point is execution, fundamentals and coaching up your talent. Al struggled with that but Tech’s had two recruiting classes for the 3-4 now with a ton of linebackers and bigger d lineman coming. Lets get coaching in here that can get the team motivated and stout.

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….I sure hope GTJoe somehow makes a living at this! Cause if not, its just sad! On here day and night… watching old tape, crunching stats, like she’s part of the staff! Creepy to say the least….

I know its so hard to ignore, but at some point we must be reminded of the insanity in arguing with a fool! If we move on to other topics she will become invisible.

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….TW inherited the worst offense since the great depression…

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anyone suggesting that Vad is better than TW, then why isn’t he playing? Is CPJ that dumb? Of course he would play the best QB, right? duh. CPJ never makes mistakes, otherwise he’d be coaching peewees…

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…and when all else fails just disguise yourself as someone else right GTJoe…
the sarcasm is a dead give away. You’re so pathetic to spend this much energy and time trying to defame someone who probably doesn’t even know you exist! …and for what?? No-one needs your approval to continue on!

Its a game!! You must have a pretty miserable life to wrap so much of yourself into this game unless you are personally connected somehow…

I can only hope you’re some young, scorned ex or something. Then at least we can blame hormones and immaturity for your crazy obsession.

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[...] Notes: Jackets move forward without Groh [...]

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….Take The Wheel,
This is getting fun now ………..

Just looked at Mississippi State with GT Joe’s mindset. MSU is 5-0, ranked #19. In their last 4 games they have NOT scored as many points as GT did vs. Clemson (31). MSU has scored 28, 30, 30, and 27 yet the Bulldogs are 4-0 in that stretch. If GT Joe is so certain that GT’s 27th ranked scoring offense doesn’t get them into the top 25 then how does Miss St’s 36th ranked scoring offense have them at 5-0 & #19 ranking?

Could it have something to do with their 11th ranked (13.4 pts / game) DEFENSE?

Thanks for playing, GT Joe! You lose!

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GT Fan & …Take The Wheel………..Great rebuttal guys. And thanks for the chuckle I got from it.

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GT Joe is saying, “Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me”! (amid rock music playing in the background & much dancing on the stage)

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CPJ’S – Scoring Defense since Georgia Southern

5 Seasons @ GA Southern: Scoring Defense – Average 18.6.

6 Season @ Navy: Scoring Defense – Average 26.1

4 Seasons @ Tech: Scoring Defense – Average 24.0

15 Season Average 23.0

Average so far this season: 30.6

Last year with Navy – scoring defense was 36.3

Will leave to each to draw their own conclusions.

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Has anyone noticed how well Notre Dame and Standford have been doing this year? Standford has been solid for a while now. Notre Dame is clearly on the ascendency. I mention this because both of these schools are demanding academically. Techsters, and I include myself here, are always blaming academics as the primary reason the football team sucks. I would suggest the issue is the people at the top, i.e. DRAD and CPJ. They are responsible. We might well have the wrong people driving the Wreck.

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