Updated: Al Groh fired at Tech

Didn’t see that coming in the middle of the season.

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This has been coming for some time now. You can’t let in 1500 yards in three games and still survive. Good move. Now to look ahead.

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Great move Coach!

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Good move. Next time, hire somebody under 100 years old.

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Yes!!!

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Good riddance. I still think CPJ made a mistake by not retaining Tenuta…look what he did to FSU this weekend.

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they needed a shake up NOW, when there is a break to regroup..if the players liked this guy, maybe this gets their attention-did not PLAY like they liked him…..players maybe need someone they don’t like (think “Heartbreak Ridge”)

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Can he fire our QB too? This would be a great time to do it…

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USMC Dawg, as far as UGA goes… Fire CMR and hire who exactly? When you figure that out… get back to us. In the mean time, I like what CMR has going in Athens minus Bobo.

As for Tech, I like that they kept CPJ. He’s a gambler and an idiot. Somewhere between Kenny Rogers and USMC Dawg. Groh is just a sacrificial lamb. Saving CPJ’s azz for another year of mediocrity.

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The egos of CPJ and Tenuta can not even occupy the same room much less share a football team.

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Can we fire Paul Johnson and his high school offense next? please?

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Good move from CPJ, didn’t see it coming before the end of the season. Sometimes I get the feeling he gets his ideas from reading comments here — he hired a special teams coach, he fired Groh… If Vad Lee starts against BC, my conspiracy theory will be complete.

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Good luck Coach Groh. Thank you for your coaching and leadership.

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I nominate this guy !!!!!! PERFECT FIT !!!!!

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/rumph_chris00.html

Rumph’s defensive line was stellar in 2011 helping the Crimson Tide rank No. 1 nationally in rushing defense, allowing just 72.2 yards per game.

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I get no pleasure out of this, but it had to be done. Johnson has to know this is his last crack at a DC, though. Next time, it’ll be him.

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@usmcdawg

“GA Tech is a “Decent Defense” away from being at the top of the ACC.
The offense is putting up points every game. The defense is just giving up WAY too much.
Al Groh is a nice man and had a nice career. Enjoy your retirement.”

I agree 100% with your statement

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In Rumph’s tenure at Clemson, the Tigers ranked among the top 25 nationally in scoring defense and total defense in each of those five seasons. The 2010 defense was 19th in total defense (320.3 ypg) and 13th in scoring defense (18.8 ppg). Clemson appeared in bowl games to conclude each of those five seasons and won the ACC Atlantic Division Title in 2009. Rumph coached 2010 All-American Da’Quan Bowers, who led the nation in sacks (15.5) and was tied for first in the NCAA in tackles for loss (26.0). He also coached defensive end Phillip Merling, who was the No. 32 overall pick by the Miami Dolphins in the 2008 NFL Draft.

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Agree with Zach that I would love to have kept Tenuta, but not sure that was an option. It appeared he was pretty pissed that he was never a serious candidate to replace Gailey.

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Try 601 yards, not 510.

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GT Joe
October 8th, 2012
3:04 pm

Good point. By firing a defensive coordinator at mid-season it tells me the head coach feels the season is pretty much lost. May as well change the QB and start preparing for next year.

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CPJ will be the next to go, if this doesn’t get the team headed in the right direction. He is ultimately responsible for the “State” of the program, so lets hope the thrid time is the charm when it comes to selecting DCs.

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About time: Tevin not bad enough to lose games himself? See VT and Miami games for clarity.

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whether it is now or after the season is over… PLEASE hire the best DC / RECRUITER money can buy.

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I thought maybe at the end of the season since his contract was up- but not at the Bye-week. IF- and I stress IF Tech could play a little defense they can win. You score more than 30 points a game you should win the game.

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Enter your comments here

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Sorry it didn’t work out, coach. Best of luck to you.

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I’ll raise my hand and volunteer to go through what UGA is going through, Grinch.

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Groh couldn’t recruit. Johnson doesn’t seem to be doing a bang up job either. He seems to find guys that work in his system. That or he is just Mr. Genius. I agree with the avg defense comments, don’t know about perennial top 15 though. Contender for the Coastal every year, yes.

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Well, well, well… I don’t know if this will help or not.
Me thinks we are too far gone…

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Please keep Richt, please don’t hire petrino.

Sincerely,
A Tech Fan

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yep, this was never in doubt.

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well this is cpj’s last chance. he is the next to go if things dont get better fast. i hope he has the deciency to say it is on him and go without robbing tech as hewitt did for lack of performance, contract or not. losing to kennesaw in basketball is akin to losing to mtsu in football.

i wasnt in favor of letting go of someone who year in and year out delivered to an appropriate expectation and resounded by braine only to be criticized for the truth. in an acc that has since gone down in caliber the tech program has gotten the the point it could not win the championship division maybe blue hose or no blue hose tromping. remember chan got his wins with a diminished squad. cpj has been a full strength.

i was in favor of groh and am surprised how poor the defense performed. i thought it was going to be a very good match between the two. so be it. cpj and the uppers have made their comment to what is expected, now it lies on cpj to either do it or walk.

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Tech sucketh
October 8th, 2012
3:03 pm

USMC Dawg, as far as UGA goes… Fire CMR and hire who exactly? When you figure that out… get back to us. In the mean time, I like what CMR has going in Athens minus Bobo.
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That means you like NEVER competing for a national championship. Doesn’t say much for your standards.

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CPJ just scapegoated the defense, which buys him another year as HC.

He might as well go whole hog and bench TW for Vad. That way, when we go 2-10, he’ll have TWO excuses.

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Tough weekend, DawgNole. Hope you aren’t a Braves fan, too. Hope both your teams get well Saturday.

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I have questioned his calls but NEVER called for him to be gone. I hope we do better.

Maybe it is time to write off the season and go with Vad too.

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Really didn’t think we would pull the trigger midseason. But I guess the GTAA realized they had to do something to get the fans back, for now. Good luck to Coach Groh. I know he tried, just couldnt get it done.

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Gotcha, Grinch. Sorry.

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@ GT Joe…..you have made it abundantly (not to mention repetitively) clear that you don’t like Tevin, and that’s fine. I really look forward to seeing Vad take over too. But the fact remains, whether you want to admit it or not, that Tevin would NEVER have been in the position to lose the VT and Miami games IF the defense had done their job…..WHICH THEY DID NOT !!!!

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This guy looks like a great option as well but probably a long shot..

http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cooks_kerry00.html

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@Tech sucketh – USMC Dawg is 100% correct – fire CMR and both those worthless coordinators. Hire who? I will tell you who Kirby Smart – he is ready to run his own show. CMR might be a great individual, but he is not a football coach that will get us a NC. Way to much talent in Athens to get beat down like we did Saturday night – I am over the not being prepared, not being tough enough, and not winning the big games. That’s all about coaching – he has had a good run, but it’s time for a change. Oh, GT – smart move to fire Groh. It should have happend after he cost you the VT game, but better late than never.

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Come on…

Petrino’s next stop is somewhere out West where his rep might not have caught up with him quite as much as here in the South.

As far as Groh being gone. It had to happen. Really surprised it happened mid season. But I’m fine with that. Hopefully the kids can not feel like they caused it too much and go out there and fight.

I do find it somewhat ironic that a smaller part of why he was fired was probably his lack of ability to signal in plays and audibles quickly enough against today’s modern offenses. Meanwhile, Paul is shuttling in plays and we have next to no hurry up system. (And apparently two plays we can check to on the goal line)

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Go after Chris Rumph !!!!!

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Perfect Perfect Fit Chris Rumph enough said !!!

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I don’t have any stats to back this up but it feels like the majority of our defensive snaps we end up playing with 4 down anyway. I feel like I haven’t really seen us go with 3 down that much. Anybody else noticed t too or am I just crazy?

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why would any of the top DC’s come to Tech?

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If I were CPJ I would have my favorite realtor on speed dial because you and your one-trick offense is next. Thanks for nothing. You won with Chan Gailey’s players, since then you have been less than .500—do us favor and step down

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I don’t know if this saves CPJ job at the end of the year. We may not win another game.

This won’t eliminated some of the dumbest 4 down calls I’ve seen a coach make. It happens every game now.

We call timeout when Clemson is about to punt, then Dabo gets to think about what a stupid move that was to punt and goes and makes 1st down?!?

I mean, come on, really?!?

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Who’s to blame for
the two missed field goals and safety? (9 points)

Have a flamboyant retirement Al.

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Al Groh is an ASS. He always has been. I laugh everytime he gets fired.

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I doubt any good DC is available mid-season, so I feel sure an assistant will take over for the rest of the year. Groh failed, but he DID have credentials, and even now, I think it was a decent (not best, but decent) choice. But it should have been obvious last year, that it was not going to work

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Hate to say I called the season going this way after the Miami game, but I knew this was where this season was heading. Too much emphasis with the players was put on that VT game, and then the team just started falling flat. The unfortunate reality with Groh is that he couldn’t get the type of D-Line athletes you need to run a 3-4, and I don’t know that any coach really could here at GT. Those guys have to be 6′3″+ and at least 280+ as a general rule, but they also have to be able to play ball and eat up blocks. Not sure who we go with now at DC, but this needs to be a bang up find if we want any chance at having a good season next year. Next move will be to start Vad Lee. No better time than now with the bye week coming up and a lot of time to prepare for another bad opponent. Get him as much as experience as possible so that next year, when we return 19 of 24 starters we can have a shot at being great. Consider that fact for a second. We only lose Uzzi, Orwin (who has been pretty poor this season), Tevin (not exactly a loss), Cross (invisible this year), Barnes (invisible this year), and Sweeting (and I could probably cover better than him). With a somewhat experienced QB, and even a MARGINALLY better defense, I like our chances. Time to rebuild for next year and have a shot at something great in the future.

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Rumor has it that Brian Billick is taking a two-week leave of absence from Fox to help implement the 4-3…you heard it here first.

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Giff smith would be awesome. He’s ready for the job, and he’s the best recruiter we’ve had ever.

All the credit Gailey gets for Dwyer, Nesbitt, Burnett, etc.? It was Giff, not Chan.

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Jemea Thomas……sorry they made you delete your Facebook post…..But YES some of Us wanted Coach Groh to do well and backed you no matter what. It just became evident it was not working. I’m sorry you liked Coach Groh and he had to leave. Now it is time you and you Mates pull together and work through the pain of your loss.

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Technically Correct, you clearly know nothing about Al Groh. You can describe him many ways, but ‘classy’ is not one of them. He’s about as un-classy as they come.

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Several games too late, but it had to be done. We can’t recruit guys big and athletic enough for the 3-4 consistently. I never understood how a ‘defensive genius’ had such a hard time against what should be the easiest to defend situation in football, 3rd and long. But we consistently failed to defend it. I would find myself rooting for teams to gain at least 7 yards in the first 2 downs just so that I wouldn’t have to watch a third and long pass to a wide open receiver, or a running back break 15 tackles to get a first down.

Good luck Mr. Groh. Perhaps Mr. Gailey can find a spot for you, I hear the Bills are in need of a “defensive genius”.

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“A MAN has to Know His Limitations.”

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Money will not fix that problem!! The players on defense are the problem!!

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I wish Al Groh the best. With that said, I LOVE that our coach is willing to pull the plug! The numbers speak for themselves….our D is offensive! Now, we are in a position to match up a decent D to go with our O! GO TECH!!!

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You Rang?

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Al Groh isn’t the problem here…the lack of talent of this team is……CPJ is 4-9 is his last 13 games…..that’s on him as well…..he can’t scapegoat forever

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I think the Tech offense is part of the problem…the defense spends the week practicing against the Tech spread offense then goes up against a pro-style offense on Saturday. It’s similar to the problem Tech’s opponents have.

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Giff Smith is a good choice but Rumph would be better..
He currently works under Saban and was a great recruiter for Clemson..
Everywhere he has been his defenses have performed ..
He knows both the 3-4 and the 4-3 and is currently coaching on the Best defensive staff in college football .. It’s a No Brainer.. Get Him to Tech !!!

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don’t care who it is you cant coach a good or great team if you don’t have the talent and it is obvious that GT doesn’t have the talent on defense!!!!!!

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It doesn’t matter what coach is hired. As long as the TO is the offense, the defense will stink. You recruit offensive to fit the system. Even when you run the other team’s offense during scout team, you are playing against players that are recruited to run the TO. Consequently, the defense will never get a good look to prepare for the better teams.

Also, when recruiting, other schools will mention the above fact and that you will be getting cut blocked in every practice. It is tough to get great defensive players when they feel that will not be as well prepared for the next level even if they don’t get their knees injured when practicing against the TO.

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roll tide

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Got my attention, the game won’t wait for you to catch up anymore. Opponents are playing 80 plays on offense in some games; you have got to be thinking three plays ahead. There were times the offense started plays before the defense was even set up. I think you have got to play with four down, stop the run make em pass or at least get someone in there that can tackle.

The offense is functioning; any defense would put a winner on the field. Good job CPJ, way to make a decision.

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You waited that long? Thats why Tech is what it is!

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Even the smartest man in college football, CPJ, according to CPJ has a firm grasp of the obvious.

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There is nothing wrong with the offense.

The problem under Johnson has been the defense and the people he has hired to coach the defense. A major contributor to the poor defense is Johnson’s proclivity to go for it on 4th down on his own side of the 50. He really needs to save that for the end of the game. At times it appears that Johnson is coaching “scared”. He does not trust his own offense.

Finding an excellent, proven, DC will be tough. Tech is a proven .500 football program. Who is going to leave a winning program to come to GT?

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Dave Wommack
9-4 and 11-3 seasons.

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I did and if Coach Johnson doesn’t start playing Vad Lee as quarterback he probably won’t last either.
Coach Johnson has got to see that Tevin Washington does not have the talent to play against this league of players he is a good player he just does not have the talent. Vad Lee should have started
at least the second game of the season.With our record what do we have to lose.

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GTBEE
October 8th, 2012
3:29 pm

Fired the only decent head coach on the team! . . . (Blah blah blah blah, rest of post, blah blah blah blah)
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Geez, this guy makes me look like an optimist.

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Tricky move by Johnson.
What happens if theTeam keeps losing & the Defense doesn’t get better?

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It ain’t the assistant coaches that are the problem. You can replace as many assistants as you want my Rambling Wreck brethren but until you replace the Narcissistic jerk you have running this titanic we will never win anything of consequence again. mark it down.

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Now fire Paul Johnson. He should have never left Statesboro

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GIFF SMITH

He will not only do a good job with the X’s, he will address the #1 problem: RECRUITING!!!

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Nativebird
October 8th, 2012
3:39 pm

CloudmanJacket
October 8th, 2012
3:40 pm

rj
October 8th, 2012
3:40 pm

How about that – 3 consecutive posts saying the same thing.

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Had to be done or forget any fan support. The only problem is now if it doesn’t work there will be only one man to blame. Paul Johnson will have go then.

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c’mon, BEE-still #1 on Money’s best school value list…….

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@ Grinch; do you have a point. Is it surprising that more than 1 person thinks it is time for CPJ to go

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carl

October 8th, 2012
3:23 pm

why would any of the top DC’s come to Tech?

Gee I don’t know. Maybe ask George O’Leary, Randy Edsall, Ted Roof, among other former DCs how their time at Tech worked out for them? On the offensive side ask Bill O’Brien or Ralph Friedgen if being a coordinator at Tech was a good thing for them?

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Does Johnson have one of those contracts that automatically rolls over every year?

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Robert Nunn, Defensive line coach for the NY Giants and former head coach at GMC. He’s the man for the job. Also has coached at Green Bay, Dolphins and Tampa Bay.

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“…we should probably hand in our old trophies since we are no longer a real college football team.”

Georgia Tech’s record since 1960: 328 wins, 268 losses and 10 ties. That is 25 games over .500. Over a 52 year period.

There is a myth out there that Georgia Tech has been a major top 20 program for decades.

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The Offense feeds off the performance of the Defense. Think of how many points GT could score if they could make some 3rd down stops, have better field position as a result, and a higher time of possession. GT scores a crap-load of points DESPITE their defense.

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“USMC Dawg, as far as UGA goes… Fire CMR and hire who exactly?”

“I would take BOBBY PETRINO…. Okay get some screen cleaner… but mark my words… whicjever SEC team(Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky) hires Petrino for next season will surpass UGA’s program.
The man is one of the top Football coaches in the country, whether you like him or not.”

This puts it all into perspective the win at all cost mentality – fans cheer their own QB going down (KC Chief’s this weekend); colleges continue to put thugs on their team, and you USMC Dawg want to hire a man who left the Falcons (i’m not a Falcons Fan btw) in mid-season without more than a note to his team and then brings AR down with his scummy classless ways. Yet you want him on your campus…WOW! If successful he will leave your program for greener fields in a “greenback $$$ second”. We as a nation have really gone to the Dogs kind of speak if this is where we are headed… are we already there?

I believe not yet but if we don’t stop and say wait a damn minute we’ll be there too soon. Thank you Eric Winston (blasting KC Fans), Drew Brees (classy comments after record breaking game) and Colts fans (as they support Pagano in his real battle) for reassuring me that there is still positives in sports out there!

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JoeRational
October 8th, 2012
3:45 pm

I won’t speak for all of them, but here’s my observation on a couple of them:

O’Leary. Took his GT record to a job at Notre Dame. Fake resume sunk him, not GT. Also, he’s doing pretty good right now at Central Florida.

Friedgen went from OC at Tech to HC at Maryland. Seems he did pretty good as well.

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Jay — not this year. Shannon coaches at either TCU or Baylor, I think.

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I agree offense has put up points this year, but look over the past few years and there are plenty of instances where CPJ’s offense was shut down and he had no answers. A lot of points this year, but against terrible defenses like VT, 17 against a terrible Virginia, Presbyterian, 28 against MTSU, Clemson. We haven’t played anyone but Clemson to date and Clemson has no D, just speed on offense.

In 2011, we scored 7 on Miami and 2010 7 on AIR FORCE IN A BOWL …SERIOUSLY

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Louisiana Jacket
October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm

“…that there is still positives in sports out there!”

Harumph, harumph!!

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Hire Nick Saban!

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Finally, PJ does something that should have been done last year! As I posted earlier this 1) shows the defense that its not all their fault and 2) gives PJ his one final shot to get it right! All the fans want to see is improvement on defense, continued improvement on the offense and continued improvement on special teams. No more regression!!! Get it done Paul get it done!!

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Again CPJ has shown that he can make the tough call. Now if he’ll just ask for some help calling the plays. No coach in the nation calls a pitch in your own end zone. ” GO JACKETS “

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KeepMarkRicht.com that is all!!!

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PJ truly knows his position is on thin ice. He must go with Lee at QB, or at least integrate him into 1/2 the offense DURING the game. Groh is past his prime…results are obvious.

Well, at least the first correct move was made. Had to be after Clemson with 2 weeks off before BC. If Tech can show improvemwnt and salvage at 6-6, PJ will return. Anything less and his job may be in the jackpot.

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I will say that I think CPJ’s habit of going for “it” on 4th down at the beginning of the game while on the Tech side of the 50 yd line is a little wreckless. just my opinion.

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Clean house and bring in Phillip Fulmer!

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I hate to see anyone lose their job but it had to happen. I think CAG is a smart man and knows football, but Tech doesn’t have the talent or personnel to run his defense. Hopefully we will find someone who can work with the guys we have and salvage what’s left of the season.

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The Grinch

October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm

That’s my point Grinch. Carl acted like the DC job at Tech is a dead end unless I read it wrong. I think it’s worked out pretty good for quite a few.

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Tenuta wasn’t the DC for the 51-7 game; Roof was.

Again, this is Johnson’s chance – and probably his last one – to fix the defense and recruiting. Get a recruiter who runs a simple defense and can recruit like hell.

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Good move, but don’t expect GT to magically create athletic talent. Steve Spurrier could not do much better with these players. CPJ is responsible and he is still Head Coach.
I will keep preaching: Recruiting is the bottom line in college football. Nick Saban recruits better than anyone and he has the best teams. CPJ has basically recruited a few d1 players and a lot of D2 players. Something else has to change.

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how can UVA get the giant linemen and we can’t? how can we not find some giant fat guy and plug the middle? how come we can’t get rushing lbs? Groh was given a hard row to plow practicing against a scout team running a pro style offense when they only know the TO.

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There wasn’t much else CPJ could do. It’s just too bad they have to start over on defense. This year is shot but I can always hold out hope for next year. I guess things could be worse. Poor UGA’s season is over and they’ve only lost one game.

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Groh was just a symptom of a bigger disease…..

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. . . . Take the Wheel, because Tevin didn’t cost us the VT or UM game, right? I’d rather have a terrible, green QB this year if it means next year will be great. TW has nothing left to give to this program, leaves after this year, and has so clearly hit his ceiling that it isn’t even funny. Where is there positives in starting him? Make a bowl game? Whoop-de-freaking-diddily-doo. Being “rewarded” with a bowl game after a 6-6 season with Tevin at the helm isn’t something to play for.

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Thanks, CAG. Not a lot of former head coaches would have given it a shot under CPJ. That showed a lot of class from both. I greatly admire and respect both CPJ and CAG for that. ” GO JACKETS “

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Should have gave Groh until the end of the season

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Uhhh, Tech needs to fire Johnson too. Any Coach who uses the kind of offense and defense Johnson uses, needs to retire and fish or play golf.

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Giff Smith would have been a great choice, and that’s the move PJ should have made instead of hiring Groh. There is almost zero chance that Smith will come back to the Flats with PJ there, despite the current record at Buffalo. The only chance that happens is if PJ is humble enough, and I think most all will agree that is not PJ’s strong suit, lol.

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GT4ever,
Earlier I posted something similar regarding GT’s O being it’s best defense at times too. The ability to churn-out long, time-consuming drives cuts down on the # of 3rd down failures by the D.

A big problem with GT not being able to consistently churn-out those drives is their lack of a Dwyer/Allen type Bback. I came to that realization after last season when the top Bback gained only 698 yds. Then not having the right QB under center, as 2011’s Bback had a 5.2yd avg / carry. Similar to 2010 AA – 5.5yd avg, 240 carries, and 2009 Dwyer – 5.9yd avg, 235 carries. However, TW limited Sims to just 135 carries in 2011 while calling his own # 243 times.

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Please take Grantham.

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Fire CPJ and bring in Pretrino. Wait a few years for him to wreck , AGAIN!

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So funny how how so many are saying its recruiting, not the head coach. Well who the h3)) do you think is responsible for recruiting? Who the h3)) do you think it falls to for going out and sitting in mom/dads living room and convincing them that Gt is going to make their kid a star at the Div I college level? Fact is…our turkey-necked-geeked-up-narcissist-XsAndOs-white-board-king couldn’t convince a cow to moo, much less a 5-star recruit to come to Tech. This guy is a loser with his head up is rear.

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Wow, I can’t believe it !!! I bet Al Groh did not argue with the decision. I think our D is more talented and has better speed than it has had in the last couple of years. We are better at the positions but terrible on the field !!!

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Bout time. Bring back Chan. He is Chantastic!

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Spurrier said there is all kinds of D1 talent around Atlanta !!! Im sure there are a lot of these kids that cant get into GT because of grades but I bet there are a lot we are letting slip by too.

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Lance Thompson, Lance Thompson, a million times LANCE FREAKIN THOMPSON!!!!

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BartBuzz
October 8th, 2012
4:04 pm

I guess things could be worse. Poor UGA’s season is over and they’ve only lost one game.
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A difference in expectations.

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CPJ must finally be feeling some heat…Either that or he’s really PO’d at losing every game in the 4th QTR or OT cause of D (or both).

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@Take The Wheel, Pleas let somebody else drive !!! Tevin is better than he was last year but he is not a Nesbit type player !!! The offense is not the main peoblem but Vad is clearly the better talent and CPJ is holding him back. 9 times out of 10 Nesbit was gonna come through and that is what we need at QB. Time to play VAD. Salvage this season and lets look forward to next year !!!

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I just can’t believe they fired him after a loss to Clemson. Clemson at Death Valley has to be one of the toughest outs there is in college football. This would make more sense if it had happened after the Middle Tennessee game. It makes it look like we were expected to win up there in Clemson.

Puzzling to say the least.

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Take the Wheel: Tevin is terrible.

Game ending INT at VT
blew the 4th down play in OT vs. Miami
4 yards on 19 carries vs. MTSU
failed on every meaningful 3rd down vs. Clemson, not to mention the failed 4th down in the first quarter that basically gave Clemson the 1st TD.

Wake up, he’s terrible. Nice guy, but terrible.

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Grantham next maybe??

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At least your program (GT) has the foresight to realize when something isn’t working today, the same thing is probably not going to work tomorrow. The move may hurt initially but better to get the ship righted sooner than later. Besides you guys have athletes, can’t imagine a new coordinator or even promoting a current assistant will yield worse than 40 pts/ game.

Meanwhile UGA fans are stuck in the insane nightmare that is mediocracy.

Definition of insantiy: doing the same things over and over, but expecting different results.

Good luck with the move – seriously, if you guys yield good results from this move, maybe, just maybe it will wake up someone over in Athens. ah-hem!! cough* cough* – are you listening Mr. McGarrity – take notes!!!

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Does it really matter? We are 2 & 4 and tied for second to the last in the ACC. It’d not like you’re going to real off six straight wins, Please!

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This is what, PJ’s 3rd different D coordinator in his short tenure? And as for talent, did you ever think if a kid is smart enough to go to Tech, then he is probably smart enough not to go to Tech? Think about that.

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To all the bloggers moaning about GT’s lack of talent on defense, surely you don’t think our players are less talented than MTSU. We are not recruting on par with Alabama, LSU, UGA, Notre Dame, FSU, Clemson.etc. But I refuse to beleive we aren’t recuiting as well as MTSU, Duke, Wake, MD, BC, NC State and the rest of the pack in the ACC.

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I like this Lance Thompson idea, Tech Forever.

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Yeah I know MTSU is not an ACC school.

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Johnson had to fire Groh to save his own job. Villagers are at the gates with pitchforks. Richt had better watch out as well.

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Its about goddamn time he was let go. I said when they hired him, the 3-4 is not gonna work at Tech. They can’t recruit the big nt to make it work. Go back to the 4-3 already. Put Barnes and Green in the middle with the Aussie rotating in and out with em. We have the linebackers and the secondary, minus Isaiah Johnson, for the 3-4 to work. We just can’t get the quality nt though. Its sad when Techs best pass rusher is a outside linebacker. The d-line didn’t look that bad against Klempsum though, they actually got pressure on Boyd a few times. I just hope we go back to the 4-3 soon.

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And And does anyone know what happened to Nealy in the last game? I don’t think I saw him at all in the second half, only Drummond.

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We wish you well Coach Groh. But we also understand CPJ is in a situation where things must change right now. Given that Tech has a bye week, this was a better time to make the transition than normal; being that it is mid-season. Let’s move on shall we?
Let’s offer the job to GIFF SMITH.

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Maybe Moobs Johnson will ask the new Defensive Coordinator before he goes on 4th down inside his own 30 yard line. Mr. Johnson should step down as well.

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Ga. hires Al to coach the defense on the right side of the field,Grantham the left side.Neither could,or can,get the whole field covered.Flip a coin as to who gets the nose guard.

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CPJ wasn’t going to switch to Vad because if he turns out to be a stud (which he is), fans would be saying “why was Tevin EVER starting in the first place.”

NOW, he can switch to Vad, and when Vad runs the table this year, CPJ can say it was mostly the defense that improved.

Smart move, CPJ. Now just complete the move by benching Tevin. No one will know the real deal by me and you. I promise.

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we need to get a spread style offense to put up more points in the game

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@OldSchoolTechFan I could care less what you find offensive. Actually I find it offensive that you get on here and call me out, because I used your nonexistent lords name in vane.

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Take the Wheel: protecting Vad so he doesn’t get his head taken off? LOL. You are a fool.

He’s not ready? Well when will you EVER deem him ready? When your boyfriend Tevin graduates? Just wondering, is there a timer that’s supposed to go off when Vad is ready?

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It’s too late now, but we should be looking for someone like Hugh Freeze, the head coach at Ole Miss. He has Ole Miss playing with passion, they are flying around the field and I think he is doing it with diminished talent in Oxford.

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Ok MaconGTFan. Would you please not use that word ?

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Ever notice how the back up quarterback is always the unanointed savior of a struggling football team??

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I was originally one of the fans who were upset with Tenta leaving, but hindsight is 20/20. His defenses played great some games and played like crap the next. It was to inconsistent to me. Not to mention the countless blown coverage’s because of all the blitzes he used.

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Can the genius fire himself next?

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CAG’s dedication and effort was unquestioned, and for that we thank him. Bottom line results – unacceptable. He would agree. Enjoy retirement coach.

Now, next problem….?

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Can the GENIUS now fire himself?

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Smilnjac aka TWFan aka Take the Wheel:

Brett Favre was a backup in Atlanta. Tom Brady was a backup in New England. Guess what? Backups end up being the right man for the job on MANY occasions!

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Yeah, MaconGTFan, Tenuta’s defenses were like riding a rolller coaster, exciting when they were working but frustrating when we were giving up wide open receptions and runs.

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I have been a GT alum for over 15 years and GT fan for over 20 years…

I predicated what happened about the year that we hired Coach Paul Johnson. He will have early success with his “tricky” offense. But once everyone in Div I figures it out with enough prep time, his offense won’t work anymore. The biggest issue with his offense is the fact that it depends on a superb defense. If he EVER fall behind by 2 TDs, his Offsense won’t catch up. Sure, having a great defense will help any offense. But with GT’s recruiting requirement and type of players that we get, it is hard to get the type of defense that we required to have triple options. Also, PJ is NOT known to be a big recruiters. Now after Chan Gailey (great recruiter)’s players are all gone, we can see the lack of depth and talent at ALL positions…

It is just a matter of time before Paul Johnson gets fired. After winless bowl seasons and a 3 game losing strick to UGA, it will only take one more “losing” season to get him fired…

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Stinger, do you think this is his last year?

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The basic problem at GT is recruiting. With their offense, they do not need top recruits but just good football players to be good – same as Johnson did at Navy. That is the reason GT hired him. At Navy, it is not possible to get top recruits-almost the same as GT. At the same time GT is not getting top defensive recruits. It is a talent issue more than a coaching issue on defense. Until GT can consistently get top 15-20 recruiting classes, they will never return to their former glory years. Hate to see it but they have a storied past.

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@OldSchoolTechFanatic and @GTJoe – I want you to have what you’re asking for!! So that your eyes can see that this problem is MUCH BIGGER THAN YOUR QB!! I agree that its a good idea to get Lee more snaps. But Vad and every other potential GT recruit should take notice of how you’re trashing a guy who has been committed to this team and given the best that he could to win for his team only to come home to this! You deserve to lose until the mentality changes! What you’re doing doesn’t motivate anyone (including Vad). Because even in disappointment you dont expect your FANS to make demoralizing comments! Even if you were to somehow attract decent recruits, the type of behavior I see on here would break any players spirit.

You keep talking about Nesbitt… and not to take anything away from him… but he had a totally different supporting cast! So wake up from your dream land.

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@Take The Wheel

Get a grip and quit crying for Tevin! Tevin is a big boy and he can handle it! I think Tevin is a great young man and gives 100 percent effort every game! But he is the quarterback and when he makes huge mistakes people are going to jump on him! It just goes with the territory! I hope you don’t mind but I’m following your example and using exclamation points after every sentence!

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And we were a consistent 7-5 or 8-4 team at best with Tenuta. Also when we played Teams with real talent, minus Auburn, we were exploited with constant blitzes by having a receiver running wide open down the field.

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Yeah, MaconGTFan, I’m old enough to wax about the good old days, but some of the good old days weren’t too good. You are spot on about Tenuta though. I think a lot of Tech fans liked him because he was fiery.

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AL come to State, we’re only giving up 35 pts per game

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@Take The Wheel, I dont believe CPJ should just give him the job !!! But, he should give VAD a chance to earn the number 1 QB spot.

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North Ave Killer Beez
October 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Hilarious, BYU’S Defense better than UGA’S “Get for real dude” UGA played a really good team Saturday night. One that would possibly put a hundred up on GT with the defense scoring maybe half of it.
Also BYU usually has a bunch of 25-30 year old mormons with eligibility running around the field. They should be a bit stronger than most Ncaa teams fielding kids fresh out of H.S.
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You darn skippy BYU’s D is better, NAKBeez! And you helped prove the pt with your 25-30 year olds playing comment. Of course 25-30 are going to be better/more mature than 18-22 yr olds, hence a factor in BYU’s D being better. But another factor … BYU’s 6 opponents have posted just 53 pts on the board, and 7 of those were a Utah DEFENSIVE TD. So that’s 46 pts that 6 teams have scored on BYU, less than 8 pts / game.

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As I said last week, let’s open it all up and see what we have in the cupboard. Play Vad and Days have a real competition. What are we worried about finishing with a losing record?

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Coach Groh, thanks for giving Tech your effort. Good luck to you.

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@GT Fan I dont know how great the talent level is that BYU has been playing but I have been watching them a lot this year and their D has been very impressive !

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@Dum-Bass I find it revolting and sickening how suck a god that people believes exist would allow people to fight wars, kill, and try to exterminate entire races in his name, even though the bible (also known as the word of god) says though shall not kill. Also kinda funny remark about the IQ when you use a handle like Dum-Bass. Now leave the god talk for a more appropriate blog.

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ignition,

Tenuta was always open about his dislike of the recruiting process….hated it. Rumph leaving is a HUGE factor that has to be considered. Thompson has been mentored by Saban and O’Leary in defense, he is consistently one of the 3 or 4 best recruiters in the country, and if he’d stay because of a shot at being the GT HC then that kind of continuity is priceless….especially at a place like Tech where a coaching change sets us back twice as far as the normal athletic department.

That’s it in a nutshell. Tech’s problems are big and I think Thompson addresses more of them than any other potential candidate…plua he has one thing no one else on the list does; a love for Georgia Tech.

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The worst part about the d so far this year has been how they give up all the third and longs like they have. A couple more stops here and there, and we wouldn’t even be reading and commenting on a blog like this.

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Too Tired to FIGHT with you guys……..I will just keep going to the games and supporting the TECH PLAYERS.

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Thanks for the write-up Ken.

Coach Groh is a gentleman but he simply didn’t get the job done. With the exception of interior D-line, Tech has enough talent on D to wreak some havoc on opponents.

Hopefully coach Kelly will employ much more aggression in his defensive calls. Just look at what Mike Nolan has down for the Falcons.

BTW – has anybody noticed how well Vance Walker is playing this year?

GO JACKETS!

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Has anyone else read the idiot Heather Dinich’s latest blog regarding AG’s firing?

“Paul Johnson finds his scapegoat”

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I don’t think firing Paul Johnson is the answer. Its been the d that has been our downfall not the o. And who do you people think Tech can hire that will be any better? Gailey showed that the proset doesn’t work here. So who I ask do y’all fire PJ fans think should replace him? And don’t say Mike Leach either, he’s one in the same as PJ.

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One has to wonder what is worse: The fan expectations of UGA that have become an annual dissappointment with fans throwing Richt/Bobo to the curb. Or…..The fan base at GT expecting not being able to compete with teams they were beating regularly or at least played well against a few short years ago….??????????

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@5150 UOAD you are 100 percent correct we need to support the players !

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I don’t know crackbaby, every time I watch seems like the defensive backs are getting beat on a pass route, committing pass interference or missing a tackle. I think we have a way to go in that department.

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No crying here! I just think GT has pathetic fans period! I dont condone trashing any of your own players. Even in discontent there should be certain boundaries that arent crossed! When you do, it not only brings down that player, but those players around him! Clearly the team respects him – He was voted captain by his peers!

So again!! I want Lee to play more. But I also dont want to see him suffer the same course as your previous QB’s (excluding Nesbitt). I think he has and continues to have a chance to earn the #1 spot. But who would want it staring down this loaded double barrell we know as GT?? I think its high time he was introduced to the real world of GT FB as well!

He will get more playing time against BC! I’m almost certain of it

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I thought Groh would be gone on the Sunday after Thanksgiving but it is never too early to do the right thing.
Randy Shannon would look good in white and gold.

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Now let those High School uniforms go !!!
Worst I’ve ever seen.
What would Kim King think.

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Folks, PAUL JOHNSON is going nowhere soon! So, don’t think he is going to get fired. And on that note, be careful what you wish for.

You have a great offense that moves the ball on anyone, but you are temporarily lacking a decent Defense. Clempson was having fits with Tech’s offense last Saturday until a couple of lucky breaks went in Clempson’s favor.

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Giff Smith is with the Buffalo Bills, which is one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Why in the world would GA Tech want him to come be their defensive coordinator? Randy Shannon and Tyrone Nix both have Defensive Coordinator experience at the collegiate level, have been extremely successful, and are great recruiters here in the southeast. They should be on your shortlist, in my opinion.

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GT Fan

October 8th, 2012
5:25 pm
Heather:

How many coordinators out there want to coach a defense that has to practice against the triple option every day, only to face an offense like Clemson one week and Virginia Tech the next?
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Uh, she does realize that GT’s D practices vs. scout teams that run the opp’s O? And unless GT is facing the TO every week, I don’t think the D practices against as much as she implies

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No disrespect to you, so please do not take it wrong. But GT is not near the talent level it was when Coach Johnson arrived. Go to any BIG Time program that competes for National Championships year in and year out and their 2nd and 3rd teamers are much bigger, better, stronger , faster athletes on both sides of the ball. I will use what Meyer did with Tebow at Florida, he had a system that worked well, until coaches like Saban came along and got players, and dissected the system and found out how to beat them and others took that game plan and were able to beat the system. The Triple option is the same, you see it enough and without true elite athletes to run the offense those elite defensive players will beat you. My biggest complaint is the fact that Coach Johnson shifted the blame to the defense early when HIS offense was not doing anything but 3 or 4 and outs.

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@MaconGTan No, I did not say to banish you. Its amazing how all liberals go to the extremes when someone calls them out. I just can’t believe Ken is letting you get by saying what you said.

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@OldSchoolTechFanatic ……

BYU has played Wash St, Weber St, Utah, @Boise ST, Hawaii, Utah St

The most pts put on the board were by Utah – 24, 7 of those by the Utes’ D. The other 5 opponents have scored the remaining 29, for 53 total pts through six games. Pts by opponent:

Wash St – 6… 30-6
Weber St – 13 … 45-13
Utah – 24 …. 21-24 (the nation saw that crazy ending)
Boise St – 7 …. 6-7 (BYU HC pulled a PJ … scored TD LATE in game, and went for 2 to win)
Hawaii – 0 … 47-0
Utah St – 3 …. 6-3 (I’ve posted on another blog about GT covetting USU’s HC, Gary Anderson, he’s probably the best college coach here in Utah).

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@MaconGT ?? Really, did Gailey show us the pro-set does not work at GT? I think you meant no offense works at GT when Reggie Ball is your QB, he actually would have been great for what we run now.

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Who has not scored 38 or more points on Clemson? Even weak offensive Auburn scored 19 points on Clemson. Everyone is scoring against VT, Everyone is scoring against Miami……the numbers do not lie.

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@ GT Fan Thanks for the info

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Paul Johnson needs to flush that janky old 1978 offense and get into the 21st century!

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PJ, look in the damn mirror!

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CPJ isn’t going anywhere, anytime soon. I trust his judgement regarding WHO starts for Tech…TW has looked pretty good this season….with the exception of that mental fart he tossed up in OT vs. vt. Vad will get his chance when CPJ deems it the wiser choice. Short of TW having scandalous photos of CPJ….WHY would CPJ sit the better option? Now is the time to get behind our team….while they’re down….GO TECH!!!

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I think we have to be honest with ourselves, Under The Bleachers has a point. CPJ’s offense can be effective and can win playing “big time” teams, but you have to be able to throw the ball better. When we line up against the best opponents, their ability to stack the box takes away the space we need to run the ball.

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@USMC Dawg, you’re spot on!
If Tech had the Gators D, they would be unbeatable me thinks.

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Although I do agree we need to pass more, we have to recruit the lineman who can pass protect good enough to have time to throw the ball. Hell mtsu ran by and through our line everytime we tried to pass.

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hahaha—–johnson is feeling the heat!

if this jerk doesn’t right the ship– let the GT “power alumni” pound this d-bag till he taps out!!!!

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Even if Coach Johnson came out in a “Pro Look”, Shotgun, or something that makes others prepare for anything but the option would help. Think about, teams are limited on how much practice time they have, if you just throw in a wrinkle every week for the first 3 weeks then you would see that others would have more time spent on worrying about that type set. The problem with the option is a good team with strong NT, and or DT/DE will shut you down on the read if that is all they have to worry about. It is about Good athletes going against Great Athletes.

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“If Tech had the Gators D, they would be unbeatable me thinks.”

Not even that. Tech just needs a serviceable Defense (okay may be a little better than that) and a Defensive coordinator with a little fire in his belly.

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Just wish CPJ would recognize that the Offense is greatly contributing to the problem. The losses are not all on the D. Got to capitalize on the turnovers and stop stalling in the red zone. Missed FG, blocked FG, and safety were ugly. Not to mention the D was worn out having to defend 100 plays from scrimmage…. not pretty.

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Johnson needs to change his entire offensive scheme.

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@Il Jacket I’m saying we won’t have a decent passing game until we recruit bigger and better lineman. PJ knows this also, which is why he’s bringing in Hall and Devine (I thing that’s there names) to help in that aspect of the game. A few more recruits like those two on the o-line and I’d be arguing with y’all about more passing attempts a game.

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Fire CPJ and im happy! The program needs an entire new coaching staff! If anyone that post on here has any inside pull PLEASE HIRE KEN W. AWAY FROM THE ARIZONA CARDINALS!

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LakeDawg ….

PJ fired his OC a loooong time ago.

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I nominate this guy. He’s from Atlanta, grew up a GT fan, was an integral part of GT for years, and can recruit like nobody’s business. He played a big role in recruiting Tech’s 1990 NC defense.

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/011812aac.html

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How about ND’s DC? He’s built a great defense with similar talent that we have in just three years. Maybe he would like to come down to the South where it’s much warmer and has the ability to attract some got talent.

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How about ND’s DC? He’s built a great defense with similar talent that we have in just three years. Maybe he would like to come down to the South where it’s much warmer and has the ability to attract some good talent.

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Yea, Whisenhunt wants to leave the NFL to coach in front of 25,000 fans on Saturdays…..PUHLEASE.

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ole yeller

October 8th, 2012
5:47 pm
@jamal, that janky offense you referred to is 11th in the country in offensive yards per game. Avg scoring is 38 points per game. What are you talking about? Want to look up some stats on Gaily?

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2-4 record and one of those wins is against a FCS school. The other win is against a defense that 102 overall and gave up 42 to Duke. Miami is 103 defense overall, Middle Tenn is 68th overall, Clemson 73rd overall, VT is 43 overall(the best of the bunch and GT scored 17).

That entire great Offense thing is not going to put people in the seats, and get Alumni to pump more money into the program.

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@ROCK EAGLE- I wouldn’t mind that hire! H3ll nothing can be worse than AL STINKIN GROH! LANCE THOMPSON!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Offense is part of the Defense’s problem. Think about the 3 and outs and even a few 1 and outs. The D is worn out. They were gasping for air at the end of the 3rd quarter Saturday. And who can forget the 40 minutes of no offensive scoring in the Miama game (first quarter and the 25 minutes of game). Asking a lot of a soft secondary and a worn out line.

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@IL Jacket You might have something there. Only problem I see recruiting the bigger lineman is that they aren’t as athletic as the ones we have now, which is why the run blocking works so good. Someone posted a while back about how PJ needs to open up the passing game more like Oregon does, but just not as much. I think he might be trying to do that with the two recruits he’s bring in next year.

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EVERYONE STOP FOR A MINUTE, AND THIS ABOUT THIS….

Just 3 weeks ago, after kicking the tar out of UVA, we were all looking at the brightness of GT’s 2012 season still remaining, and the how the ACC Coastal was EASILY winnable????

WOW! What a difference 20 days makes! BRINGS MORE CREEDENCE TO THE TERM “THAT’S WHY YOU PLAY THE GAMES”

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“and THINK about this …”

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Awful athletics and terrible academics. Many scandals regarding academic leadership. Why ?

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Pass blocking would be nice, but passing mechanics would be better. Getting tired of listening to announcers every week talking about ugly passes, not planting his feet, running scared (well maybe that was me that said that)

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Here lies the problem. Not one Great Defensive Coordinator is going to come to GT because of the way Coach Johnson recruits. He recruits for his offense first and defense second. If the GT fanbase is happy with a second level ACC program that is what you are going to get. Add those other teams coming in to the league and GT gets pushed further and further down the pecking order. Others are Upgrading their football programs and GT has stood pat for several years. The truth hurts but there is not one bit of excitement in the program today that makes 17, 18, 19 year old kids want to attend Tech to play football unless their options are limited or they want a specialized degree GT offers.

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@jeffjacket ——– the offense is HORRIBLE. The scheme of triple option is so 1988 and does NOT work today. Please retire the current (FOR NOW) coach and downgrade to FCS level. It’s ok, baby, it’s okay. Just relax and let it happen.

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Atlanta Truth, where do you think Georgia Tech should be, if not the ACC? The SEC gains nothing with Tech. UGA doesn’t want Tech in the SEC, as it will be an option for recruits in the state who want to play in the SEC. Tech’s academics are a much better match for the ACC than the SEC.

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@ GT Fan —— the offense is HORRIBLE. The scheme of triple option is so 1988 and does NOT work today. Please retire the current (FOR NOW) coach and downgrade to FCS level. Relax and spread out honey …………. It’s ok, baby, it’s okay. Just relax and let it happen.

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@atlanta truth. Facts don’t get in your way does it? Explain why it is horrible. Still averaging more yards per game than the Dawgs, who still run a pro style offense. This is not a triple option, it is a spread offense, and at times there are triple options in the reads.

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ole yeller

October 8th, 2012
6:00 pm
@under the bleachers, just how many yards of offense do you think would be necessary for this team? UGA has not played exactly a stellar list of teams with great defenses, with the exception of Carolina and we see what happened there. UGA runs a pro style offense and still trail the spread option of Ga. Tech in total offense production. What’s up with that?

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No. 1 I am not a UGA fan, I hold my second degree from GT, my first from Alabama and I purchase 4 season ticket every year to Tech and I am a member of Tide Pride where I also have 4 tickets.

My point is that if he wants to run the option that is fine, but if he does not throw in wrinkles each week that others have to prepare for then their GREAT Athletes at other schools are better at stopping the offense that Coach Johnson runs. Those defenses you say GT scored all those points have not done nothing against others so all of that is just stats that are meaningless.

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Lance Thompson ! GT is his first love. The guy has DC experience under O’Leary. He has been by Saban’s side for years and was named Rivals.com Recruiter of The Year. What do you want ?

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/thompson_lance01.html

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At least Tech doesn’t have to worry about it hurting recruiting. Check out the class. I bet most of the offers that have been accepted the player had no choice. It was either play at GA Tech or play in the WNBA.

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I didn’t like the Groh hire to begin with and I’m glad he and, hopefully, the 3-4 are gone. However, that doesn’t solve the problem. I hate doing this, but here we go. It’s not the academics, it’s not how hard Tech is, it’s not the offense. It’s the curriculum. Until we have a curriculum that will give a kid who has, or thinks he has, a future in pro’s a path to get there, we will not get those kids. We need a program that will allow these kids to attend Tech, play football, pursue their NFL dreams, and be a coach. High school, college, or pro. The National Coach of the Year award is named after former GA Tech Coach Bobby Dodd and the National Assistant Coach of the Year award is named after former GA Tech Assistant Coach Frank Broyles, yet Tech has no program for kids who want to be a coach. It’s the narrow curriculum that keeps the star athletes from attending.

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Okay fellow Jacket fans. We have seen a few games that didn’t go our way this year. Let’s just stay with CPJ because he is a football genius and no defense can counter his master mind. There should already be a statue of CPJ on North Avenue. Go GT!!!!

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Would love to see Pat Narduzzi from Michigan State take over as DC or Chris Rumph from Alabama. I also want to see CPJ hire Mark Helfrich (Oregon OC) as the Assistant HC and OC consultant. Here’s to wishing!

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Great start. Now get rid of Johnson and his 1970s offense!!!!

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How about Marion Campbell?

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There is nothing wrong with a 3-4 Defense and if Notre Dame & Stanford can play using it with success so can Tech .. Tech needs to be ahead of the curve and that’s the defense that the powerhouse Defenses in the NFL and college football are using for a reason

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We are averaging 38 points a game. Those complaining about the offense are stupid, blind, or both.

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38 points a game to teams with no defense….. impressive

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@jeffjacket —– or whatever weak handle you maintain ……. a fantasy football defense does NOT work in the NCAA …… it’s ok honey. We realize you are not up for big boy football. Go back to Athens and the playpen.

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Firing coach in mid-season is bad medicine. It looks and is, desperate, but now tha it’s done, best of luck to the defensive coaches still in place. Players need to be held accountable also, and I’m sure CPJ is doing that too.

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Tenuta?

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@USMC Dawg…. agree, firing mid season may hurt more than help

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USMC devil dawg, you’re probably right. I just don’t see any of the assistants as promising even in an interim role, and there aren’t any permanent replacements available midseason. There is some sense in getting a head start on building for the next season, but w/o a coach in place? Wonder if it’s a sign that CPJ is feeling some heat himself?

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The attractiveness of the 3-4 is that you don’t have to have a great DE, not to mention 2 really good ones. The OLBs that fill that pass rusher role are easier to find, at least for the NFL. In the past, Tech has had some really good 4-3 DEs and 4-3 DTs, though. If a 4-3 DC comes in next year, the DEs on the roster will most likely be learning DT roles, and Attaochu will be a DE.

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Giff Smith would be a good choice. Great guy and a good recruiter. I just think Tech might have a shot at a GREAT recruiter in Lance Thompson. I guess I am identifying myself, but both of them have been among my college teammates. Thompson at The Citadel and Smith after I made the transfer to Georgia Southern. Both of these guys should be on the short list, and I’m partial to both.

http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=771819

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Good decision but should have been done after last year. Does anyone else out there think the way I do, that Tevin Washington has become the reincarnation of Reggie Ball?! He does enough good things to get you excited, but when it comes to crunch time, he pulls a “Reggie”.

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Who cares about Tech. Why are they open anyway when we have schools that really teach engineering, like Cal Tech, MIT and the others! Tech should formally be named the trade school it is. Those “students(?)” go four years to learn HVAC, etc. There are a lot of schools that teach that in a few months. Close Tech and save the Georgia taxpayers some money!

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Funny to read the names from 2008 and see where they are now, Rock Eagle.

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Oh, and I bet he didn’t have the dollar either. A day late, and a dollar short.

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Lance has already been at GT with O’Leary so why do you think he would or should come back?
Look at the D coord for USC – from Applacian State – now that is a defense!!!! People flying all over the place.
There are some more good ones out there – just have to look and get someone who can RECRUIT and relate / communicate to his players.
CPJ will support someone who will protect a lead after his offense has put up 35+ points.

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Stein, if you’re that DUI lawyer, I want my money back.

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PCJ thinking ahead, maybe this will buy him some extra time, until it is his time. With that offense it will be hard to attract some top talent (playmakers)!!!!

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Now fire the offensive coordinator

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The poster is an obvious troll, and one who doesn’t know much. CalTech and MIT are private, and Georgia Tech is among the top public engineering schools in the world.

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@Whocares did you read/hear about GT is the BEST investment (College) degree in the NATION! It sounds to me that you are still mad, about not being ACCEPTED!!!

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@who cares posted at 6:46. That was perhaps the dumbest comment I have ever read on any blog. Congratulations you win the all time blue ribbon for stupid.

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We surely could slide to a spread option O with the players we have vs a pro set. With Vad at QB running an offense he is comfortable in this might have a chance to be good. Need to recruit more players to go with him and JT, but they would be good bait!

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- Washington (aka Reggie Ball Jr) just sucks even though he has the most TD’s so far this year. It’s just his “It’s All About ME ATTITUDE”.

Puh-leez!! Even people who dont care for him knows that he is the absolute opposite of that! Just a good kid trying to win games. You never hear him talk about himself! Try again with that one…

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Ya hear that Grantham?

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@GTBob

Did you want to give up 40 points and 500 yards of offense against Boston College instead?
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This firing doesnt mean it still wont happen Bob.While I understand that somebody had to be thrown under the bus part of the blame to go toward the caliber of talent that CPJ has recruited. Best of luck to them the rest of the season..

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Rock_Eagle Im with you.

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Hopefully this will give UGA the courage to get a NEW OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!!

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GTJohn, obviously you went to Tech. You can’t spell. Fat chance you have established any successful teams. Let’s keep this conversation on the incompetence of Tech graduates.

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Defense is not Tech’s problem. If they ran a modern offense that they can scrimage with it would help the defense get better. The defense is not ready for the real offenses because tech has an old fashioned offense. Paul Johnson needs to grow up and change offenses. IT WILL HELP THE DEFENSES.

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Sorry to see CAG go in the middle of the season, but it was inevitable. Personally, I think he couldn’t connect with the players. But the worst mistake was that, by hiring him, they thought he could get the players they needed to run the system.

The fact of the matter, as many have indicated, is that you need a Nose guard that can clog the middle; Alabama and the other high-profile 3-4 schools get those people.

Who do we get? A 6-7 360 lb guy that can’t stay on the field because he has no stamina. So we try to fix that, tell him to work out like a demon and lose 45 lbs. Now he is getting pushed around by 280 lb linemen because he has no strength. Which he didn’t have before either, by the way.

They have to be big, they have to be strong, they have to have stamina, they just can’t be 350 lb tubs of goo – and we won’t get those guys. Those guys are NFL prospects, they want to play for MNC’s, so they’re going to Alabama, LSU, etc.

We need to get back to a 4-3, where we have a chance of fielding linemen that suit the system.

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The other problem with our NG is that he’s too tall. Can’t get low enough to leverage.

Now, if he was 6-2 and had that weight, possibly a different story.

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ted roof, ted roof, ted roof

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ps…I live close to the “applacihan” mountains! LOL

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MaconGT——-Not calling you out, just simply asking for a little respect for the Lord of those of us who do believe. And, you are absolutely correct in your assessment of Tenuta! Now, let’s all try to stay on football. Thanks.

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From a UGA fan – congrats Tech on having the stones to make a needed move. Wish we had the same in Athens.

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I believe it was CPJ that hired Womack and Groh. He cannot recruit and runs a high school offense. Tech will never win anywhere with a coach that does not understand the forward pass. CPJ needs to follow Al out the door and close the door behind him. By the way it is time to take Tech out of the pajama uniforms – bring back tradition with the gold hats and pants.

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Let’s go and hire Spurrier! Then, he can beat UGA twice during the regular season – LOL!!!!

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Kramer, are you really that stupid. Using the logic (if you can call it that) that you use, that would mean that any team that faces Tech can’t practice against a triple option offense because they don’t run it. Well, duhhhhh, that’s what scout teams are for. When UGA, for example, plays Tech, their scout team runs the triple option so that the UGA defense can practice against it. The same is true at Tech: when we play a team running a pro-set offense, then the scout teams runs that offense in practice so the defense can practice defending it. Is that concept that difficult for you to understand?

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Tech Fan
October 8th, 2012
8:15 pm

From the looks of Buffalo’s last two week Chan Gaily will be available for UGA or GT next year.
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Uh, no thanks.

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Lance Richardson for the next DC. He can’t any worse than mr.old garbage groh!

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Here’s the question–
If CPJ stays in 2013 can anyone recruit enough talent for this offense to be able to compete with Clemson, VT, FSU, UM etc . Giff recruited to a pro set on O and class of 07 ended up playing for CPJ. I dont think so—
Im not content with 7-8 wins and a low level bowl. We won’t have even that this year.

I appreciate and respect the young men on this team and want nothing but the best for all of them. They have my support in person and on this blog.

I respect CPJ and what he did today. 09 was awesome but I dont believe he can get the players to repeat it.

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JOKE……But it was better than the guy who suggested Pitrino.

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GTBob, its not that they (The D) practice against the Triple option, the practice against that and a normal offense. However the biggest difference is that the normal offense that Tech runs in practice isn’t nearly the same speed or pace that other teams play at

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@fuzzy- I 100% agree with you. Talent that it takes to compete at the highest level want come to GT because the offense DOES NOT help their chances to get drafted high.

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Someone posted earlier about the terrible decisions CPJ makes during critical stages of the game and there were (2) glaring decisions….

1. a timeout when Clemson was going to punt (or maybe CPJ knew they were going to run a fake) and the other was the pitch in the endzone….Gave Clemson time to think about it and they decided to go for it and got the first down….. To me it seems like a stupid timeout that was wasted and gave the other team the advantage. In the words of CPJ….. “ARE YOU STUPID?!!”

2. I don’t know squat about coaching or running the triple option but I’m pretty sure your odds of making it out of the endzone are pretty bleak when you pitch it 5 yards deep….

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MaconGtFan, you’ve been called out and asked to clean up your mouth. Show some respect or stay silent. Thanks in advance.

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@On My Own…we don’t think the defense could stop Clemson but we do think the defense could have stopped them at least ONE time! The never punted except for the interception (which was a penalty on GT that wasn’t called). They never punted the entire game….. The one time they tried to punt, CPJ called a time out that allowed them to change up and go for it on 4th…

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@SS-2 months ago you told me i should die and that i was a troll because i wrote a few things about groh and washington. Not only was i right about groh but i will be right about TW when we lose every game.FACE GT football has hit rock bottom!!!!!!!!!!! DANG get it through your head!!!!!

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@ On My On……did you not watch the Tech – Miami game? Tech got down 19 in the first half and stormed back with 36 successive unanswered points. How is that not being able to come from behind. And don’t tell me that we lost anyway. Yes, we did, but it was not because of the offense; it was because of the defense.

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Grinch — how bout those Falcons!!
We’re gonna win the Super Bowl in New Orleans!!
Now that’s poetic.

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@TECH FAN- What player on offense has CPJ recruited that has been a stud??????? NOBODY!!!!!! Stephen Hill was a ok ball player,nothing great.

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GT1990…..I can assure you that if anybody on these blogs told you that you should die, it was not me. I NEVER talk like that to anybody, no matter how I may differ in opinion with them. For months, I had a name-thief on here posting garbage. If you saw something like that posted under my name, it was definitely the name-thief and not me. And I don’t think I have ever defended Groh to begin with. I THOUGHT based on the 2nd and 3rd games that the D had improved. But after the Miami game, I KNEW it had not. Now I may indeed have called you a troll, and you still show evidence of being one, but I certainly have no desire to see you dead.

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