UPDATED: Tech out-slugged by Clemson, 47-31
Clemson's Andre Ellington (23) tries to get by Georgia Tech's Jeremiah Attaochu.
Updated, 10:10 p.m.
CLEMSON, S.C. – As late-afternoon shadows crept across Memorial Stadium, the Clemson faithful stood in full-throated roar. The sellout crowd sensed its team about to deliver a knockout punch to Georgia Tech.
The Yellow Jackets complied. Another fourth-quarter breakdown torched three quarters of effort and offensive play-making in a 47-31 defeat to No. 15 Clemson Saturday in Death Valley. A week after absorbing one of the worst losses in school history, Tech made good on its vow to give a better account of itself against the Tigers. It did, but up against an arsenal of offensive weapons and its own self-destructive habits, it wasn’t enough.
“Right now, we’ve got to play close to perfect,” coach Paul Johnson said. “Clearly, we’ve got to score more points.”
The Jackets fell to 2-4 overall and 1-3 in the ACC and made the bus ride home down I-85 with regrets of plays missed and chances squandered packed underneath. They also are owners of their second three-game losing streak in the past three seasons.
Twelve months after opening the season 6-0 for the first time since 1966 and rising to No. 12 in the polls, the 2012 Jackets have scuffled their way to a less glorious piece of history. Tech goes into its bye week with its worst record after six games since the 1994 team, which started the season 1-5 and later brought about the late-season dismissal of coach Bill Lewis.
“We’ll come back,” Johnson said. “They played hard for the most part, and if they’ll play hard, we’ve got to find a way to try to help them win.”
As was the case against Virginia Tech and Miami, the Jackets held a fourth-quarter lead Saturday, this time in a game that few gave them any chance to win after their 21-point home loss to Middle Tennessee State last Saturday. The Tech offense at times scalded Clemson’s poor tackling defense. Quarterback Tevin Washington operated the option effectively, freeing up A-backs Orwin Smith and Robbie Godhigh to gain 178 rushing yards on just 11 carries. He completed nine of 14 passes for 144 yards.
Said Smith, “I saw guys with more drive than previous weeks.”
Tech’s work led to kicker David Scully’s 26-yard field goal that gave the Jackets a 31-30 lead with 13:03 left in the game, the fourth time they had wrested the lead from Clemson. The Tigers responded with a 75-yard touchdown drive, one of their six scoring drives measuring 70 yards or more, completing it with a 35-yard pass to wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins. A two-point conversion gave Clemson a 38-31 lead.
A team that is becoming painfully familiar with an inability to rise to the game’s biggest moments tripped again, this time literally.
Chris Milton misplayed the ensuing kickoff, fumbling the ball before recovering it and then slipping to the ground at the 2-yard line. Two plays later, Washington pitched to Smith, who was overrun by Clemson defenders and dropped for a safety for a 40-31 lead. The stadium shook in approval.
The episode recalled Smith’s own safety on a kickoff against Miami.
“You can play 10 years of football and never take a kickoff return on the 1-yard line and have a safety on a kickoff return,” Johnson said. “We’ve had both. It seems like it shouldn’t happen.”
On the series after the safety, the Tech defense, which allowed 601 yards to Clemson, gave a spark when inside linebacker Daniel Drummond intercepted a Tajh Boyd pass, returning the ball to the Jackets at the Tech 45-yard line. Down nine and needing two scores, Tech drove and then sent Scully out for a 37-yard field goal. His try was blocked, his second miss of the game.
“That was pretty much it,” Johnson said.
It brought an end to an afternoon that held the hope for a season-turning upset but was done in with a mound of errors. Tech tried for a first down on 4th-and-1 from its own 37 on its first possession of the game and was denied on a sneak by Washington.
Nose tackle Shawn Green made one of the plays of the game in the third quarter, intercepting a screen pass and returning it 17 yards to the Clemson 26, but Tech squandered the opportunity to add to its 28-27 lead. A botched snap between center Catlin Alford and Washington on 4th-and-1 from the 7 gave the ball back to the Tigers.
Occasionally better defensive play and pass-rush pressure often placed Clemson in 3rd-and-long situations. As has become rote, though, the Jackets allowed Clemson to convert 13 of 19 third downs. Tech has given up 31 of 46 third downs in the past three games.
The first-quarter fourth-down try in its own end spoke more about the state of Tech’s defense than Johnson would.
“I thought we could make it,” Johnson said.
Once again, opportunity lost.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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gt1012
October 6th, 2012
6:59 pm
first
shamire devine
October 6th, 2012
7:00 pm
Does anybody have Mark richt’s phone number?
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:00 pm
First
gt1012
October 6th, 2012
7:01 pm
and CPJ gets paid more than Dabo, Jimbo, and every other coach in the ACC. His salary (~$2.6 million) is in the top 10% of college football coaches.
Is it too much to ask to get what we pay for?
Your Bulldawg Daddy!!!!
October 6th, 2012
7:01 pm
I love your ball team. I say we give coach Johnson an extension on his contract.
North Ave Killer Beez
October 6th, 2012
7:02 pm
That a boy coach, way to get our future QB some experience today. Maybe to risky with all we have still have left to play for.
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:02 pm
ah, gt1012 you got me… 3rd down defense cost us this one period. And poor special teams didn’t help. Offense was ok, nothing spectacular, but we scored exactly as many as we did last year, just that this time our D collapsed.
Al Groh is gone after this season for sure. No question.
Born2Buzz
October 6th, 2012
7:03 pm
Shakier, can you play defense?
da
October 6th, 2012
7:03 pm
first
Jacket Dad
October 6th, 2012
7:04 pm
Wasn’t as bad as I feared….. But we are just not anywhere near where we need to be. Offense, although pretty good, can’t make the big plays and the play calling today was….interesting. Defense – not as bad as last week, but Clemson didn’t even punt!!!!!!! And special teams – I was excited to see a ST coach come in but have not really seen much improvement.
I hate to be so negative, but we only have one or two more games where I think we even have a chance.
Born2Buzz
October 6th, 2012
7:04 pm
Shamire. Damn auto spell.
tech fan
October 6th, 2012
7:04 pm
Please, please Paul take your toys, Al & Rada data ding dong and just leave.
UGA grad Class of 1800
October 6th, 2012
7:04 pm
Tech is just not a good team. That’s all there is to it.
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:05 pm
I also wish CPJ didn’t have a contract until 2016… we can’t afford to pay him 10 million if we fire him before that. So yeah, couple of more disappointing seasons on the way unless we out-recruit uga in the state.
Scrod
October 6th, 2012
7:05 pm
Fire ‘em all now and bring in the substitutes. Can’t get any worse.
North Ave Killer Beez
October 6th, 2012
7:05 pm
Let’s try the QB sneak again on fourth and 1, with our snail QB that couldn’t sniff playing time at Duke.
Jacket Dad
October 6th, 2012
7:06 pm
And sorry Johnson, you are NOT earning your 2.6 million. Pathetic.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:08 pm
Hahahahahaa….laugher as usual!!!!!!! Bill lewis > paul johnson! HahahAAAAAAAA
BehindEnemyLines
October 6th, 2012
7:08 pm
No surprise in the least. Few legitimate D1 players, even fewer coaches. And apparently another administration that lacks the sense, the courage or even enough interest to do anything about it.
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:09 pm
Oh yeah, btw Duke is gonna go bowling this year and we are not. That home game on senior day looks awfully difficult now. Just hoping for one or two more wins this season… BC after bye week is tough, but not impossible. Chalk the rest down as L’s for now.
Morale = destroyed.
GT Trumpet
October 6th, 2012
7:09 pm
Groh has got to go.
GTBob
October 6th, 2012
7:10 pm
Well, at least we are guaranteed not to lose next weekend.
Born2Buzz
October 6th, 2012
7:10 pm
This was an Al Groh special. Keep getting in 3rd and long and then give up the 1st down. And does Isiah Johnson just always take the wrong angle?
Trolldawg daddy
October 6th, 2012
7:11 pm
Enter your comments here
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:11 pm
I now hate this football team!!!! Hahaha the fans are losers, the players are losers the coaches are major losers!!!! The ad is an udder (sp) loser!!!!!!!!
Trolldawg daddy
October 6th, 2012
7:12 pm
Bulldogs are top five. Why are you here? You’re pathetic.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:14 pm
Love those frozen duck throws!
WnE
October 6th, 2012
7:14 pm
Three words describe CPJ’s tenure at GT:
SUB
STANDARD
RECRUITING
Over the course of a game that has probably 100+ snaps, INFERIOR RECRUITING will ruin your chances to win more often than not!
But then again, I said the same thing way back in Dec. 2007 when CPJ was hired with no experience on the BCS Level.
Where are my detractors now?
New Idea
October 6th, 2012
7:14 pm
Recruiting.
ole yeller
October 6th, 2012
7:14 pm
Look at the stats, Clemson never had to punt the ball. It could be 3rd and 50 and Groh could not call up the right alignment. Tells you something about our defensive talent or coaching or both, doesn’t it? This may be the worse defense I have ever seen a Tech team field. Someone needs to be fired, NOW!
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 6th, 2012
7:15 pm
@Ken Sugiura- This is not at all intended as a “troll” or joke question, but do you think it’s possible or feasible that Georgia Tech could/would get George O’Leary and Ralph Friedgen back? Thanks.
Your Bulldawg Daddy!!!!
October 6th, 2012
7:15 pm
Your team is pathetic!!!!!!!
ETN Tech
October 6th, 2012
7:17 pm
I totally agree with north Ave Killer Beez. Coach you gotta get Vad in the game. Time to turn the page from Tevin. He calls his own number way too much in the option. Needless to say the Defense is pretty pathetic. We simply can’t run a 3-4! We don’t have the size on the line for it! Time to move on from CAG.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:17 pm
Season of schmucks!!!!! Give al and paul raises extend their contracts 20 years and recruit a bunch of d iii players!!!!!!!!! Sell tix for 250 a piece! Charge 15 for a coke!!! Lets get new unis!!!
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:17 pm
Ken, what’s up with the lack of game day coverage & blog………your bosses think GT ain’t worth it or what????????????????????
Brad Nixon
October 6th, 2012
7:17 pm
Paul Johnson now your done,I love the Jackets but as a fan it is time for a change at the end of the year. This sucks
JustinSyder
October 6th, 2012
7:18 pm
Dwag trolls…….how’d you like what just happened?
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:19 pm
Poor recruiting -> lack of talent on defense -> poor defense -> can’t get off the field on 3rd downs -> give up TOP -> ruin the triple option staple of relying on TOP -> ruin your offense’s chances of scoring too many times in addition to bad defense -> lose games -> losing seasons and annual loss to uga -> Poor recruiting.
And the vicious cycle continues.
Samurai Jacket
October 6th, 2012
7:21 pm
GT yielded 573 yds / game over the last three weeks
billyho55
October 6th, 2012
7:21 pm
GAVE A BETTER EFFORT TODAY! JUST HAVE TO FACE THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH THIS YEAR! I SAY THROW IN VAD SO HE CAN GET SOME PLAYING TIME UNDER HIS BELT! IN MY OPINION, COULD BE DEAD WRONG, BUT THIS HAS TURNED INTO A THROW AWAY SEASON! A SEASON TO GET THE FUTURE STARS MORE PLAYING TIME! PJ WILL UNFORTUNATELY SURVIVE FOR ONE MORE YEAR BUT GROH IS G.O.N.E. GONE! SAYING ALL THIS PAINS ME TO NO AVAIL BUT LET’S FACE IT GUYS, WE ARE NOT GONNA ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING OF ACCLAIM THIS YEAR! THIS IS ONE VERY SAD BUT HONEST MAN’S OPINION!!!
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO LOSE….
GT-UT
October 6th, 2012
7:21 pm
Vad needs to be the starter. This season is lost. TW is a good kid, but not the winner we need. I still have faith in CPJ. Don’t know about CAG…he got a great résumé. I’ll trust CPJ’s judgement. And, for all you haters out there; I like this offense. Period.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:23 pm
Only a hand full of teams play real defense anymore…..it seems as though GT isn’t alone……although they may be near the bottom………..
George Stein
October 6th, 2012
7:23 pm
I can’t believe how awful the defense. I really have nothing else to offer.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:23 pm
Hahahahahahahahahhahahahaa gt is back to relevancy in irrelevancy……mount union just called and offered 10 million to gt to come play them!!! They are recruiting the same players!
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:24 pm
That being said, half our season is behind us, and we’re 2-4. Gotta RISE ABOVE THIS. Somehow. Someone. Something. has to step up.
The Ramblin Wreck has seen worse before… we WILL live to see another day. The Yellow Jackets will fight on…
OldGold1964
October 6th, 2012
7:25 pm
Offense: hold your heads high. Defense: (what defense???), oh, you have work to do – wake up. Coaches: some of you need to return last couple of checks to the Athletic Association, uncashed.
Oh, my
October 6th, 2012
7:27 pm
Looking like this will be 2 years in a row my video collection contains no GT football highlight tape.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:28 pm
This offense sucks too!! Cant pass when you need to etc same garbage same story year in and year out!
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:29 pm
Samurai……….too much credit……..Miami got over 600……MTSU got over 500….on screen stat said Clemons got 601 today…..over 1700 yds in 3 games….573 seems pretty close…..horrible & pathetic….GT will be lucky if they beat Maryland……PITIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigTIMETechFan
October 6th, 2012
7:29 pm
Nice game, few plays/drives blew it, if we had more then an average QB we could have won the game.
Time to tell TW, you are not playing like a R-SR, to many mistakes, even completed passes look bad
What the deal with getting the ball with 3 min left in the half and not caring about the clock until there is like 20 seconds left. Same thing happened in the Miami game.
Burgess
October 6th, 2012
7:30 pm
As Paul as so eloquently said before….”It just wasn’t meant to be.”
GT-UT
October 6th, 2012
7:30 pm
Lets me just say, CPJ is the right man for GT. We need someone to turn the D into a contender. Anyway, off to watch my Longhorns now. They play real D.
I still a supporter…and if GT needs some money, I’m in for a little extra.
Harvey D. Pooka
October 6th, 2012
7:30 pm
Well, 31-45 against more respected comptition is improvement over previous 28-49.
By the way, Looks like Clemson surpassed Wake Forest as having most attractive cheerleaders in ACC.
George Stein
October 6th, 2012
7:30 pm
I wonder if Johnson was waiting for the bye to let Groh go. This would be the time if he wants to go down that road.
Also, I’m thrilled we hired a ST coach. Wonder where all those geniuses are now?
Burgess
October 6th, 2012
7:32 pm
Hiring that special teams coach has sure helped hasn’t it ?
alex
October 6th, 2012
7:33 pm
ramblin wreck is simply that
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
7:34 pm
I should have went ahead and taken that snap. Three and a half hours I won’t be getting back.
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:34 pm
@George Stein: Nah, that would be throwing players under the bus. Who would they turn to? Gotta respect the players, and fire him at the end of the season. Unless the players completely stop caring and we give up 600 yds to say, Maryland.
juvenal
October 6th, 2012
7:34 pm
tevin still perfect…
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:35 pm
BTTF………it’s called clock non-management
alex
October 6th, 2012
7:35 pm
groh to the braves and uggla to tech,ouch……
MORGANTECH
October 6th, 2012
7:35 pm
i guess ill be a S.C. fan tonight .
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
7:36 pm
Uh, I meant nap.
ibidGT
October 6th, 2012
7:36 pm
Yeah because giving up 600 to Maryland is so much better than 600 to MTSU. There’s no way this defense can top that performance unless they let someone like Duke get over 1000.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:37 pm
Hey!! All is not lost…yet….USCe is looking good.
Harvey D. Pooka
October 6th, 2012
7:37 pm
Hey, “Silly Mutts”: we graciously allow you to post on here, but if you insist on submitting multiple comments (stupid ones at that), could you have curtesy to mask them with different names…..
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:38 pm
USCe 14-0 1st Q
4 Nat'l Champs
October 6th, 2012
7:38 pm
I agree on Isaih Johnson, dude is always chasing at wrong angle (awful). Whoever #30 is needs to learn how to tackle in space. I also agree on recruiting, we are soft at D in all positions…much less trying to figure out some old 80 year old’s 3-4 or whatever the heck it is. Also have to agree that now is the time to see #2 start and play. Tevin is smart great kid, but those are all over the campus at GT, we need a QB who is adept at option ball.
If do right, no can defense
October 6th, 2012
7:39 pm
Hey, now MTSU is not that bad… it’s Maryland which has an anemic offense with a true freshman at QB, and if we give up 600 yds to them, that would definitely beat giving up 550 to a spread-split-4-wideout-plus-Cunningham MTSU offense.
mike
October 6th, 2012
7:40 pm
Tech needs to go back to the uniforms of the 60’s~old gold pants and white jerseys. At least they would look good when they lose. The honeycombs have got to go.
Tech Fan For Life
October 6th, 2012
7:40 pm
Thank Goodness!!! For everything that is good and right in the world. Tech lost or you fools would have jumped back on the PJ bandwagon. For the first time in my life I am pulling for whoever is playing Tech. Yes that includes Georgia!! Whatever it takes to get us out of this fools errand called Paul Johnson. GO Boston College! Players I love you guys you deserve better- I will not come to a game to are rid of the disease. For 8 months I have stood this ground and will stay on it for whatever it takes – 8 years. Let’s see 2-10 and out of Johnson!!!!!
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:40 pm
let’s not be to hard on #1 IJ…I actually saw him make a play today & heard his name on TV!!!!
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
IC not IJ….good grief
Rodeo
October 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
Agreed its time for replacement of AG, but there’s not a short list of candidates-in-waiting n the middle of the season! He may not step down until very late in the season or until the end. Like it or not Tech fans are going to have to endure this a bit longer…..
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:43 pm
Hey harvey!!!! You are the smartest gt fan ever!!! The ad wants you to join the staff and we will pay you 500k a year!! Oh you are the man!! I love you
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:43 pm
3 & out for Gameco….
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
7:44 pm
Punt return for TD USCe….21-0
AZ GT Fan
October 6th, 2012
7:46 pm
we can’t tackle – either we can’t coach it (coaching) or we can’t recruit kids who can do it (coaching). Why wait…the season is over anyway. Make the coaching change now and at least have a chance to recruit some defensive beats for 2013
4 Nat'l Champs
October 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
btw, when is the last time one of our defensive ends made a sack….seriously???? Or for that matter a tackle?
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
Ouch, 21-0 South Carolina already.
Hate That
October 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Sorry to see the losses piling up. If CPJ doesn’t mind taking a $2mm pay cut we really need him at State.
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
7:51 pm
Please thank Tevin Washington for his efforts and hand him the clipboard! Why is I. Johnson playing again? How many times were the corners burned today?
Ignition
October 6th, 2012
7:51 pm
The D provided 2 takeaways against one of the more explosive offenses in the country but the O while driving couldn’t make the plays ..
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
7:56 pm
Breaking news gt accepts mount union offer!!! Even though gt agreed to allow mount union to start on 3rd down on evvery series!!!!
Barney
October 6th, 2012
7:59 pm
Bad teams find ways to lose and boy is Tech bad. DRAD can’t wait until the end of the season to make changes. It must be soon before there are no Tech fams left at Bobby Dodd stadium. If he thinks what we witness every Saturday is acceptable, maybe he should find the exit door, too. No more season tickets for me. I’ll buy them on Stub Hub from now on for $10 each if I continue to even go and watch the circus that Tech football has become.
130on2
October 6th, 2012
7:59 pm
It’s a good thing Tech doesn’t have ULM on their schedule.
Ted M
October 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
How ’bout them special teams. All you can do is laugh there are so consistently bad for 5 freakin’ years in row now.
ole yeller
October 6th, 2012
8:01 pm
Ignition, that’s correct regarding turnovers. However, the defense never stopped Clemson, no punts!! Clemson stopped themselves otherwise the game would have been a total disaster. Third down plays must have been 100% for the bad guys.
chas_jacket
October 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
BC is lousy. Start Vad and see what happens. Need to start looking for a DC now.
Ted M
October 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
I like the new uniforms.
Techster
October 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
How many third and longs did Clemson convert? And BC is a better passing team? Ouch!
Do we have a shot at edging Maryland at least?
I love Jan Kemp
October 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
Hey! Where did all mutts go? At least we knew our team stinks, now you’re having to face your OWN reality! LOL, looks like Groh got on a helicopter and took over for coach choke em(the great Grantham). And you thought you were top 5.
Ted M
October 6th, 2012
8:04 pm
they punted once …after the first possession.
Rooty Tooty
October 6th, 2012
8:05 pm
I feel like CPJ puts his team in a bad situatiion too many times. For instance, going for 1st down on 4th and 1 in first quarter. You gave CU field goal position right off the bat. The first TD belonged to CPJ.
Ted M
October 6th, 2012
8:05 pm
Duke is gonna beat us this year.
ole yeller
October 6th, 2012
8:06 pm
chas_jacket, I have a different take. Start looking for defensive players that can play in Division 1 and recruit them. Offense will never win football games consistently , defense does.
Rooty Tooty
October 6th, 2012
8:06 pm
Like I said last week, love the jackets BUT we will be lucky to win another game this year. Hate to say it, but the truth is the truth.
Ted M
October 6th, 2012
8:07 pm
the Jackets defense is so bad they pretty much have to go for all 4th downs. Unless its 4th and 15.
yellow britches
October 6th, 2012
8:10 pm
Al Groh will continue to cash his checks but he needs to look into the mirror and ask why? I guess he can say he is doing his best which is pretty damning. I have heard AG speak on several occasions and he always seems to be trying to impress the audience with how much he knows and how clever he is rather than speaking to issues or challenges with the team. I guess one way to put it is he seems to be oddly detached from what is going on. He has a scheme and it worked eight years ago in the pros and thus he is worth what he is paid. I think, at this point if the Peter Principle is not altogether appropriate parts of it surely are. He has reached not so much a level of incompetence as a place of ineptitude. He should not be coaching defense at the college level. High School or Pro? Your choice.
JamesGT
October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
Just FYI to all the critics. Clemson’s stadium is a very tough place to play. It is very loud. I went over there that night they beat us 31-7 on ESPN Gameday. I can’t really fault the team for a loss over there.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
What makes all of this so hard to stomach is that with a break here & there, GT could be 6 & 0. All teams that are highly ranked have to have some breaks go their way. This is not to say GT has a roster full of studs, but there are some ball players on the team. This team has not had any good luck. Or not enough anyway. But the defense is lacking. The offense is good enough to compete with most any team. If we had a defense that was just comparable to the offense, GT would be pretty good. Unfortunately, there are just not enough semi studs on defense. If AG goes, please Lord, maybe they’ll go back to a 4-3 D that does not require as many studly players. I can hope.
DS CE'91
October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
Team certainly played with more passion tonight, but still outmanned. Saw several coaching miscues, but not sure they would have changed the outcome. We’re just….not….that….good.
Ah well, as a GT fan for 30 years, I’ve seen this before. I hate giving up on a season, but it seems clear it is time with the bye to start Vad. We have no playmakers on defense, so we have to try outscoring everyone. While it could lead to disaster, VL also would seem to have the better chance to make some of the BIG solo plays that might let us steal a win here and there.
Hope CPJ is willing to make some changes.
Savannah buzz
October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
Have never seen a more inept 3rd down defense. You could see the play as soon as the ball was snapped. Looked like we were slogging through mud.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
And play VAD LEE you big dummy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 6th, 2012
8:15 pm
@JamesGT – The loud stadium is obviously why the Jackets gave up 600 yards and 47 points.
Savannah buzz
October 6th, 2012
8:15 pm
14 GT, I respectfully disagree…I think Mtsu would beat us again. They exposed our biggest weakness on defense. They were bigger, stronger, more physical.
I love Jan Kemp
October 6th, 2012
8:16 pm
What the heck was PJ thinking calling a TO when Clemson was ACTUALLY GOING TO PUNT on 4th&1 in the 2nd qtr? he put 7 points on the board for Clemson calling that!
Techster
October 6th, 2012
8:16 pm
It’s going to be even lonelier and quieter in Bobby Dodd Stadium from here on out…
Tech Fan For Life
October 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
I hope so!! Don’t go!!!
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
Savannah Buzz….I believe I said that…if Tech D was “comparable”…..Tech would be “pretty” good….if they had not lost 2 OT heart breakers…they would not have played MTSU so uninspired……………….
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
Looks like I’ll have be able to sit where ever I want against BYU, Techster. Already bought the tickets and told my brother I’d take him to his first college game experience.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
8:28 pm
USCe goal line stand……….21-0
MORGANTECH
October 6th, 2012
8:36 pm
Gershel 21 to 0 L.M.AO. I know we stink but thats still funny as HELL.
Tom
October 6th, 2012
8:38 pm
GT defense has given up over 600 yards in each of last three games. That’s over a mile of offense! This without question is the worst defense I can remember Georgia Tech puttimg on the field. Even in their 1-10 season they didn’t give up this kind of yardage on such a consistent basis. Their special teams are pathetic. I have watched alot of football in my over 60 years and I until this year had never seen a team get a safety on a kickoff then today the return man falls down on the 2 yardline untouched. Has Georgia Tech lowered their entry requirements this much. The old Tech teams at least showed some intelligence. This team is awful. They will probably give up 500 yards next week and thats with no game scheduled.
Hayseed Dixie
October 6th, 2012
8:39 pm
This Defense has got to go.
And the safety play makes me have doubts about CPJ’s knowledge of football physics.
Steps in the endzone are a precious commodity.
Buzzman
October 6th, 2012
8:39 pm
Just got home from the game and I cannot believe I have paid good money to watch this sorry a– defense. We had Clemson, our offense was scoring, could have scored more but our great head coach CPJ, decided to go for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking a field goal. What is the problem with getting rid of Big Al before the season is over???? Why can’t you let one of the assistants to take over???? I am not paying anymore money on tickets. I don’t care if Grant Field only has 400 people at the next home game. All I know is that I will not attend anymore games as long as Big Al is there. I will not buy season tickets next year either.
WnE
October 6th, 2012
8:39 pm
Here we sit at 2-4, and as Bill Parcells is known for saying; “you are what your record says you are”!
P+++ J++++++ has taken GT FB into BILL LEWIS Territory!
Think about that for a second?
OH NO
October 6th, 2012
8:40 pm
Tech played with alot of heart today, but CPJ has got to quit being so stupid on 4th downs. Know way do you go for it at your own 37. Besides TW again didn’t run the play you called, and you put your D in a hole. TW played half way decent today but Vad needs to get the rest of the snaps reguardless. Thank God we have a real kicker coming in next year. No way could we aford to miss the FG just before half time. And how many times did I. Johnson leave wide open receivers on 3rd and long? Also where was LB Nealy? Drummond looked to slow. All in all a great effort. Just can’t close the deal. The offense with the exception of O. Smith just doesn’t have any play makers with speed. We just need to recruit better. I hope the recruits we have coming in aren’t scared off because they can and will make a difference. Keep the faith and GOOOOOOOO TECH.
I love Jan Kemp
October 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Hey leghumpers,dont you just HATE Spurrior?
I love Jan Kemp
October 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Hey leghumpers,dont you just HATE Spurrier?
BIrmingham Jacket
October 6th, 2012
8:43 pm
This is just a poor team.
Worst since Bill Lewis.
Not even Chan, was as bad.
dobby bodd
October 6th, 2012
8:45 pm
Another double digit lead surrendered in the 4th quarter. See ya Coach Groh.
GT GRAD
October 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
I still support coach Paul Johnson and I think he is the right coach for GT.
Clemson no doubt had the superior players on the football feild today and we still had a solid chance to win half way through the 4th quarter. We are really only a few plays away from being 5-1 (maybe even 6-0); however, the reality is we are 2-4 due to a combination of mistakes by both players & coaches.
I trust he will make the correct decisions going forward.
I do agree that it is time to get Vad Lee some extensive playing time; the team needs to see if Vad is ready, determine if he is the QB of the future and also get him some valuable playing time going into next season. I like Tevin Washington as a leader and as a person, but it is time to move on for the future of the program…….he also has hurt the team trying to pad his personal TD numbers.
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
Custis from my high school, Lovejoy, is having a pretty good season so far. Maybe he’ll get some playing time right off the bat. We need a B Back again.
lindseysnot
October 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
Attn ALL ugagg trolls…your team is getting it’s collective ass kicked…and rikkkt is being out coached….again! HA, HA I really really like it!!!!!!!!!!! dwags suck.
Jacket Dad
October 6th, 2012
8:47 pm
Louisiana-Monroe 31, Middle Tennessee 17.
Any questions……
Charleston Jacket
October 6th, 2012
8:48 pm
TW is pretty poor for a starting Div I school. Once again when the team needs a leader they don’t have anyone to inspire them. Time for V Lee – but CPJ will not do it. He will let the season go down with TW at the helm.
Terrible clock mgt at the half and what else can you say about the D and the coach. Just have to hang on until the season mercifully comes to an end.
THWG – Go USC
Tech Man
October 6th, 2012
8:49 pm
When does basketball season start???
lindseysnot
October 6th, 2012
8:50 pm
@jacket dad…who the EFF are you? run our defense better and I’ll buy you a chicken dinner …otherwise STFU
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
8:53 pm
Isn’t Louisiana-Monroe a pretty good team this year?
Stumpknocker
October 6th, 2012
8:54 pm
OK…..So we’ve seen T Washington…….he’s peaked out and not good enough. The season is pretty much a wash now. Play V Lee and let him learn…..Baptism by fire. Also noticed the dwag trolls have suddenly disappeared………thanks Old Ball Coach.
Jacket Dad
October 6th, 2012
8:55 pm
lindseysnot, I’m a GT fan who happened to graduate from ULM. Son graduated from GT. Your reply is my whole point – our defense is killing us. ULM could stop MT and we could not. That my friend is pitiful.
Scott flair
October 6th, 2012
8:56 pm
This is the worst defense I have seen at ga tech in 35 years of wAtching. This is way worse than even the Ted roof teams. Our free safety could not start for most 1-AA teams. It was painful to watch. We must be the worst team as far as letting teams convert on third down in the country
Charleston Jacket
October 6th, 2012
8:56 pm
TW a good leader? How do you figure that one?
yellow britches
October 6th, 2012
8:57 pm
I’m watching this Texas, West Virginia game and it is obvious how the defense sets the tone of the game. Texas was getting buried until the D forced some turnovers and generated stops. Great game at the half. Scheme is really irrelevant at this point. We simply do not have any players, certainly guys who can make plays on defense. Our D line really are masquerading as undersized speed bumps in the back of the Walmart. What has happened to Tech pride? This is a train wreck not a ramblin wreck.
81'IEFan
October 6th, 2012
8:58 pm
This game is a defining moment for CPJ, he does a great job with an offense staffed with the best talent he can get, but he he does not integrate himself into the defense and thus is totally dependent on the coaches he puts in control of that function. It is clear that CPJ, as any chief executive would do, needs to replace the manager in charge of that weak link. Special teams coach shoud be replaced as well. CPJ please act like a “head coach” and make the changes this progarm needs. Stop putting your head in the sand!!!
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
8:59 pm
Gt is dirt under my shoe!
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
9:03 pm
Sc has real coaches, real players and real fans! Gt has the Varsity!
lindseysnot
October 6th, 2012
9:03 pm
@JackDad…my apologies, for the poor conduct…however, i’m just sick of all the (deserved) crititcism and no suggestion for ways to improve (other than jetissoning Groh)…if Groh isn’t let go real soon, then I’m checking out for the year. My daughter goes to SCe, and they, at least, WANT to win. BTW, I’m a Jacket since ‘65, my dad is class of 48.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
9:08 pm
Al groh just got a 5 year extension!!!!
yeller bug
October 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
I wonder if the coaches score themselves? Dumb call on 4th & 1 from own 37. Dumb TO when Clemson had 4th and 1. Hideous clock management in last 3:40 of 1st half—Clemson couldn’t stop us—but we were able to stop ourselves. Special Teams coach gets a failing grade—another boondoogle on a KO–give up blocked FG, did I mention the stupid time out when Clemson had 4th & 1—yeah well it needs to be said twice because of how dumb that was.
I almost think we overcoach—-basics gentlemen basics—the D stays out there and gets ready—-if they rush out the punt team and you can’t get the special teams on the field then you leave the D out there—don’t call a time out! We looked clueless in the two minute drill—-even the game ended with us not even getting the snap off—how fitting.
I hope, I beseech, I beg that going forward we will develop Vad—-yes we can win the rest and still finish 8-4 and most of us would be happy. BC stinks, UNC had a nice win, but they are nothing special—we have BYU and Duke at home (so fans show up) and then there’s UGA and maybe God will show mercy.
We threw the ball 14 times and completed 9 with a QB that does not throw well. Imagine what we can do with a QB with a strong arm. CPJ needs to decide if sticking to his TO is the best way to win games or getting a little more balance to open things up is a better choice.
Buzzzed
October 6th, 2012
9:29 pm
1.) I like CPJs offense
2.) We don’t currently have enough quality players to play 4 quarters of D1-A football. Quality guys are in the pipeline though.
ole yeller
October 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
Recruit some defensive players and get a qualified defensive coach. Not like you are trying to split an atom. Not complicated, you have a decent offense. Paul J. loves to coach offense, but as a head coach he is lacking. You cannot outscore teams at this level and hope to win without the ability to stop the opposition, ever!
Buzzzed
October 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
Devine and Hall may start next year.
Ice eater 1969
October 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
With 5 min to go down by 11 baall on 50 and defense does not play man to get the ball with enough time to score. Earlier When they pressured the qb he made mistakes and we put them in long yardage situations . I think we have hitters on d ( except for 90 and 1 who are soft) . More blitzes early in game – I guess I like to see the kids flying around in stead on being pushed on their but. Offense is fine except tw is not athletic enough that when they cut off dive and pitch a poor d can still trip him up where a good athlete would get big gain
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
Buzzzed….just pray that our commits don’t desert GT amidst all this losing….
Same Old
October 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
I told ya’ll.
4-8 this year.
One more year of Paul’s Johnson, maybe two!
Can’t afford to fire him now.
Have to pay for our other failures.
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
Blame the defense all you want, game was lost by boneheaded times out calls in the first half. Johnson has no business going for it on 4th down in his own end on the very first series. Then he calls time out when they want to punt it to us. That’s 2 TD that go against the head coach, NOT against the defense. Pathetic coach, where did you learn how to play football??
Same Old
October 6th, 2012
9:45 pm
Go Carolina!!!!!!!
Most beautiful thing I ever saw!
FL too!
Can’t wait for FL-Ga game!
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
Enter your comments here
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
Gt is worst team in acc!
GT-UT
October 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
Buzzed is right. Pipeline DOES look good. Real good.
Gotta start Vad and plan for the future.
GT Grad is right on. Nice to see cooler heads on the blog. The O is not the problem. The D is terrible again.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
9:51 pm
Gr8 2b….while I have been hard on the defense, justified IMHO, you are right about what you said….2 TD’s go on CPJ being a chucklehead.
GTpack
October 6th, 2012
9:53 pm
Crazy how the team can get up for a team like Clemson but be totally flat against MTSU and lose to both. ULofMonroe held B Cunningham to 65 yds and MTSU to abt 350 yds total. Time to drop Groan defense. I see SC with 4-7 players on the dine against Uga.
We need to look at the staff at UL Monroe, or get George back.
techfan
October 6th, 2012
9:55 pm
hey silly mutts… Get back to flipping burgers
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
9:58 pm
I would never say it to brother, but USCe is beating the snot out of Georgie. The OBC has ‘em working towards a shutout….how sweet that would be. THWGeorgie GOOOOO JACKETS GOOOOO GAMECO……
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
I hope our brethren that like to troll the Georgie blogs have the good sense to leave them alone. Don’t be children. Be better than the dwags….which we are anyway.
TechnocratNOTdemokrat
October 6th, 2012
10:02 pm
GROH MUST GO…if he doesn’t, then I will
.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
10:04 pm
Tech fan i will flip your wife’s burger after you engineer a football program! Ie Never! Hahahha
TechTim
October 6th, 2012
10:04 pm
What happened to all the dwags? What a beatdown. At least we know we’re not any good.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
FYI….before the GT/MTSU game, Cunningham had played in 2 games with 20 carries for 91 yards & 2 TD’s….against GT 217 yards (don;t recall how many carries) for 5 TD’s….against GT he went from Clark Kent to Superman without a phone booth.
HA,HA,HA!! MUTTS get skunked!
October 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
SHAW just scored again!!! ugag D lays down!!!
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
USCe 35-0 6:17 left in 4th Q
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:07 pm
Hold onto the shut out now Gameco……
35 to NOTHING!!!
October 6th, 2012
10:07 pm
rikkkt caint beat sourrier!
Jp
October 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
No coaching, no players, no football program…pulling for Tech is an exercise in futility. Coach got to go!
35 to NOTHING!!!
October 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
where are all the dwag trolls?
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
10:11 pm
Wow gt fans celebrate somebody elses program winning over uga! Why? Because gt will never beat uga but once every 200 years!!!! Hahahahahaa hope that makes gt fans feel better since gt is the worst team in the worst conference in the country!!! Pj has the best offense in the country!!!!! Blahahahaaaa !!!!!
Rodeo
October 6th, 2012
10:12 pm
Pipeline does look good, but coaching does not.
PJ is as loyal to TW as CG was to RB. He will not play VL unless its mop up duty in a game or if TW gets hurt. And TW always calls his own number when they get close to the goal line or 4th & short. TW is no where the talent as Nesbitt was.
I don’t care if we have all 5 stars on the offense, the TO the way PJ imagines it is ineffective when you’re essentially 1-dimensional, coupled with having to play from behind because of the defense.
PJ will last at least one more season because the GTAA cannot afford the $10+ mil to buy out his contract at his point. He is NOT going to resign because of the money owed him – same thing happened with Hewitt. Maybe in a year when the guarantee drops to ~$7 mil and they paid off some more of the debt owed to Hewitt.
Better days are ahead, I just don’t see it with the current staff.
hahahaha
October 6th, 2012
10:14 pm
HhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SUCAS!!!!!!
WnE
October 6th, 2012
10:19 pm
re:
GT-UT
October 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
Buzzed is right. Pipeline DOES look good. Real good.
Gotta start Vad and plan for the future.
GT Grad is right on. Nice to see cooler heads on the blog. The O is not the problem. The D is terrible again.
_____________
I respectfully disagree about our “pipeline”.
When we had players out vs. MTSU our back-ups on D looked horrible, they looked worse than D1-AA players.
Lets look at the so-called pipeline:
All the other A-Backs are worse than Orwin Smith
The B-back position is still no threat
QBs are big question mark no matter how much we hype up Vad Lee
OL still can’t pass block and the dive play has not been a threat for 2 full seasons this yr. included
Whatever DLs we have are worse than the horrible DL we have now
Our 2ndary was supposed to a strength, but they have turned out to be the weakest unit on the team TIED with our crappy DL
Our LBs aren’t really spectacular, more like serviceable.
Please inform me what is so great about what we have in the pipeline that would make GT fans feel better about the future?
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:19 pm
Damn,,,,,Georgie scored
WnE
October 6th, 2012
10:22 pm
Take notice Falcons:
Braves………we see what happened there
GT ’nuff said
Muttville………….a beatdown of epic proportions
Falcons it is up to you to salvage the Sports Weekend for Metro Area Sports Fans.
TechTim
October 6th, 2012
10:23 pm
daddy…your team is embarrassingly pathetic.
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
I think CPJ knows how to coach, he is just stuck trying to figure out how to work magic. His team is his own worst enemy right now.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
10:27 pm
@rodeo….what do you see that makes gts future looks good? Gt is horrible! They have no players no coaches and run a middle school offense that cant pass! My father who graduated from gt just rolled over in his grave!! Paul johnson hired and recruited this mess! FAiLURE at alll levels!
William Casey
October 6th, 2012
10:28 pm
@WnE: Why don’t we just disband the Georgia Institute of Technology? Happy now, weasel?
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:28 pm
I sure do want to stir ‘em up on the Georgie blogs & get some payback……but I won’t…..I’m better than that.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:29 pm
WVU leading Tx with under 1 minute & the ball.
GIVE ME A BREAK
October 6th, 2012
10:31 pm
ND stomped Miami. Go figure.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
10:34 pm
Before today ND was giving up 9pts/game & undefeated & in the top 10. I never saw Georgie as 5th best team in the nation.
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
10:37 pm
I can’t wait for the day when we actually run a 4th down play from our “try to draw them off sides” play. Coach must be waiting for the right moment – must be saving that for Georgie.
jacketnation deflation
October 6th, 2012
10:40 pm
HEADLINE – Tech loses by few points this week!
Despite giving up over 600 yards of offense, the Jackets out did themselves by losing by a smaller margin this week. “We are making strides in the right direction. Heck last week we gave up 49 points,so there was an improvement this week of two less points scored against us” said defensive coordinator Al Groh. Next up for Tech is Boston College after a bye week. Georgia Tech is sure to set the bar higher and will try to lose by a lot less being that Boston College is also a lousy football team. Tech has accepted an early bowl invitation and will play in the inaugural Toilet Bowl.
GTBob
October 6th, 2012
10:44 pm
Here are today’s results for the teams that Tech has lost to before today:
Miami – Losing by 31 to Notre Dame.
VT – Lost by 14 to UNC.
MTSU – Lost by 14 to La-Monroe.
Yeah, we are pretty awful.
Clyde
October 6th, 2012
10:44 pm
No kidding Gr8 2B aFuzzyB, that play is hilarious. How many times have we seen that now?
BLT
October 6th, 2012
10:44 pm
UGA destroyed by USCe…nothing could be finer.Own it and eat it mutts! Leave it alone unless you want more! LOSERS!
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
10:44 pm
The TV announcers built Tevin up as one of the best QBs around, leading the nation in rushing TD, etc. Oops they forgot to say that in games decided by less than 10 points he’s only won a game or two – all that comes to mind is UNC at home against their interim head coach and Duke if you want to count that.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
10:44 pm
@wiiliam…..it would save gt from future embarrassment year in and year out! Gt is not committed to winning football games! From the top to the lowly bottom! Everything is desparation! From the contracts given to the play on the field! The school is a fraud! Go build a bridge to thesouth pole! LOSERS!
Footballrules
October 6th, 2012
10:49 pm
GUERSHELL: a very mild, tasteless Hungarian dish, consisting of two lean, scrawny crows, and heavily seasoned with Palmetto hop ‘n john.
GIVE ME A BREAK
October 6th, 2012
10:50 pm
The ” BLOWOUT ” in Columbia.
BigTIMETechFan
October 6th, 2012
10:52 pm
Good thing all Tech losses are behind them, win out the rest of the year
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
10:52 pm
How is it that we seem to always sign coaches to long term contracts after they have a little success?? If they can parlay one good season at GT into a better contract with a different team, let them. Are you listening DRAD?? What’s the point of rewarding someone for eternity for beating your rival once? Is that going to ensure the same result for years to come? I think we know the answer to that. Here’s a concept DRAD, make coaches EARN their contract on a yearly basis. GET IT?
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
10:57 pm
The ajc should substitute anything related to gt with cooking with ralph and lil joe..first show “how to make chili and biscuits” blahahaahaa “with techfan’s wife as a special guest” blahahahaaaaaaa
Tampa Wreck
October 6th, 2012
11:00 pm
Overall, I thought the young men put forth a much better effort this week. While I still like CPJ’s offense, I have to say his game management is atrocious. As many have said, going for it on your own 37 in a scoreless game in 1st quarter was just stupid, and clock management at end of half was just terrible.
I was calling for TWs head after last weeks debacle, but I thought he had a decent game. Not sure if he blew the play on the 1st quarter 4th and 1 play. Not sure why we abandoned the quick outs after the first TD drive, but offense generally did enough to win the game. Can’t blame them for missed field goals, botched kick offs and anemic defense. Regardless, it’s still time to give Vad some snaps and, and start getting him ready for nest year.
Not sure what to do about the D. We just don’t have the playmakers to succeed in the 3-4. D-line generates no pressure at all, and third down D is just non existent.
Not giving up though. Need to regroup during the bye week, and put forth effort down the stretch. All are winnable games, even the Dawgs after what I saw tonight. Keep the faith and THWG.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
11:05 pm
Gt will lose every game the rest of the year!!!!! Keep supporting this team and coach!!!! You will get what you deserve! More losing!!!!!!blahahahahahahaa
GTech Fan
October 6th, 2012
11:08 pm
The outlook for Tech looks pretty bleak for the foreseeable future. Assuming TW stays healthy, he will be the starting QB for the rest of the year with Vad only getting mop up duty. Unfortuantely, the defense isn’t going to just figure things out and automatically get better this year. Our opponents litterally score every time they have the ball. Fast forward to next year, we’ll have an inexperienced QB with marginal d-1 skilled players and average offensive line. So instead of an efficient offense like we have this year, look for an inconsistent, turn-over prone offense (center/qb exchange problems and meshpoint caused fumbles) ,and many missed option reads. While I’d like to thing his talent will over come the steep learning curve ahead, I think the offense actually takes a step back next year and we have a terrible defense next year and an inconsistent offense. Back to marginal d-1 skilled players, I’m sorry but is it just me, but why do we have so many undersized, similar skilled A-backs – godhigh, zenon, snoddy, hill and average b-backs (sims and laskey). I know people love Laskey because he runs hard, plays hard, but he is the eptiome of average. Next year, it will be the same cast of characters on defense so unfortunately it will be more of the same on that side of the ball. Fire coach groh you say. What does that accomplish? A coach can’t get out there get off blocks, tackle and cover. Change from 3-4 to 4-3? The issue is talent, not scheme. I’m a glutton for punishment and will continue to support the team. It just looks pretty bleak. just had to vent…
MORGANTECH
October 6th, 2012
11:10 pm
Dont feel to bad trolls,UGA did score 7 against SC 2 and 3 string , with your starters.Now we have to hear how great SC is ,best team in history of football.What was fellow GT fans favorite part of game.mine was hearing 70,000 people yell, over rated .I know trolls we suck,im still laughing ,cant help it.We know were not going to win N.C every year,unlike you.I wont post anything on UGA blog,but trolls are free game.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
11:11 pm
Shoot, after watching the Georgie game, I believe GT gave Clemons a better game then Georgie could. They were sooooooo overrated.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
11:15 pm
Nobody in the acc has defense like SC!
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
11:19 pm
Silly Mutts….I just can’t decide if you’re a GT guy or what, but your last comment @11:15 PM is so right on the money.
TechApp fan
October 6th, 2012
11:20 pm
PJ already has the rep of going for it on 4 and short…from anywhere.
But his not-making-it so often now and that silly attempt to draw a flag is becoming_____________.
Several words come to mind….
Does he trust the D to hold if his sneak does not work?
Tech Forever
October 6th, 2012
11:23 pm
Unless Tech beats BC I don’t see this team winning another game.
Tech Forever
October 6th, 2012
11:25 pm
GTech Fan,
Agreed. Extremely bleak.
DRad Fan
October 6th, 2012
11:27 pm
Worst clock management/play calling I ever saw by a Div.1 team at the the end of the first half.
Silly Mutts
October 6th, 2012
11:30 pm
@14 gt…..im a gt guy but am done with pj! He is not a hc and makes way too much money! He is an arrogant jerk that nobody likes outside of the flats! He is a bufoon and an epic failure! He is laughing all the way to the bank!
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
11:34 pm
FSU loses to the Pack! Hahahahaha
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
11:36 pm
Still 16 second left. We would find a way to lose.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
11:45 pm
#’s 3, 4 & 5 lost today. USCe should move to #3. WVU beat UTx….#4?….ND #5 or 6….
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
11:46 pm
@silly mutts. I’m with you. I would rather send johnson packing and hire a no name coach for small bucks than endure the rest of his contract.DRad is a shm#ck for giving him a long term contract after 1 win against the dwags.
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
11:47 pm
Fl beat LSU….#7 or better from #10
1 4 GT
October 6th, 2012
11:50 pm
CPJ stays or goes…ehhuu..just don’t renew Groan’s deal. If he stays thru the season, let him ride off into the sunset. & play Vad Lee!!!!
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 6th, 2012
11:58 pm
1 4. Why would he play Vad when his starting qb leads the nation in rushing TDs???
Clyde
October 7th, 2012
12:01 am
I don’t see anything changing this year. For some reason destiny had us be GT fans, not sure what we did wrong in our lives but here we are.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
12:01 am
YEAH I know….play Vad Lee!!!!
UGA = Yawn
October 7th, 2012
12:02 am
So awful is this team and coach. Not much else to say.
UGA = Yawn
October 7th, 2012
12:03 am
Clyde – i feel the same way often. you are so right.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
12:09 am
Remember the 4th & 2 @ the 37 with 0-0 score. Go for it & fail. Anybody else see how PO’ed CPJ was with TW for changing up or whatever. He’s jelling & throwing hands up in exacerbation..on camera..I’m screaming don’t him play anymore then..but he puts TW back in the game next series. Look, TW is a fine young man & has tried his best, but he should be the backup, not the starter. That kind of thing has happened far too often. He can win, just not from behind or under much duress. Play Vad Lee!!!!
yellow britches
October 7th, 2012
12:10 am
CPJ: The line between self confidence and hubris is a crooked one. Alas, the demarcation is left to the fates, i.e. results. Fans, you draw the map.
Clyde
October 7th, 2012
12:17 am
Anyone on here follow the Falcons? What’s the difference between last year and this year? Same head coach, same quarterback, a lot of the same players on both sides of the ball. Does anyone else know which significant change they made after the season ended last year?
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
12:20 am
New OC & DC…..already making a big difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WnE
October 7th, 2012
12:22 am
re:
Clyde
October 7th, 2012
12:17 am
Anyone on here follow the Falcons? What’s the difference between last year and this year? Same head coach, same quarterback, a lot of the same players on both sides of the ball. Does anyone else know which significant change they made after the season ended last year?
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Both Coordinators were sent packing.
At the NFL level those changes are much more likely to yield positive results than on the college level.
There’s a huge gap in personnel when you’re dealing with folks aged 18-23, than in the Pros, in the NFL all those guys are really good, so scheme means a lot more.
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 7th, 2012
12:23 am
I couldn’t agree more 1 4. I’m tired of calling for Vad already. Maybe with an extra week off coach might smell the coffee and give Vad his chance. If he does, I pray he gives him the entire game to show his mettle. Enough of Tevin already, much as I hate to say anything negative about him. I just feel like he has had more than a fair shake to take this team somewhere but all we’ve done is step backwards. And no it’s not all on him, not even close. Defense is nonexistent and the hc has not a clue in many many situations. But it’s possible for Vad to overcome those two HUGE handicaps. The problem with johnson though is that he’s so stubborn, the more you cry for Vad it seems the more he wants to dig his heels in…just to spite us all. As I said, often the man does not have a clue.
Clyde
October 7th, 2012
12:31 am
Well, coordinators decide which players play and for all we know there are four or five guys standing on the sideline that play defense that could be in there making a difference in the right schemes for GT.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
12:33 am
I’m pretty sure CPJ is 55 years old. His stubbornness & arrogance is going to cost him at least 10 more years of 2.5 Million or more per year & a very comfortable retirement. Not to mention the blow to his ego if GT fires him in a year or 2. His next gig will NOT be at a FBS school @ a huge paycut. GT is quite likely the only place where he can run his offense in the FBS division. His choice….change or pack up & leave after 2013 unless there is a big jump in his record from here on out.
Silly Mutts
October 7th, 2012
12:35 am
Actually Johnson has a clue!!!! He doesn’t give a crap about gt!!!!! All he wants is to show that his offense works even with no talent!! He wants a shot at a school where he gets gr8 recruits without any effort and doesn’t need to even deal with the defense! He hired groh because he was cheap and had a scapegoat when he lost the games! Gt is a sucker because they want to win and would pay anything for success! When pj was at the bowl game before he took over at gt he saw that gt had talent from gaileys recruits! He knew he needed to win then b/c he new he couldn’t recruit d1
Same Old
October 7th, 2012
12:42 am
I told ya’ll!
Silly Mutts
October 7th, 2012
12:43 am
@14 gt…..I have to disagree! Pj will get another shot at an fbs program. He has proven that his offense works with no talent ie tevin Washington, nobody on the oline, no named running backs, and receivers! Sure you have hill and Anthony Allen in the NFL but they make the league min and are scrubs! If he gets a big 10 or big 12 program look out! If you are a blithering idiot you can get in the schools there!
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
12:44 am
Quite right Clyde….Groan will not change to a 4-3 though. Book it.
Clyde
October 7th, 2012
12:50 am
I think I will book it on to bed! Ya’ll hang in there, no game to lose next weekend.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
12:53 am
Maybe so Silly Mutts, maybe so. I just don;t think so. June Jones is not having much success @ SMU yet, with his run & shoot. He passes all the time. CPJ runs all the time. Leach @ WashState is kind of a hybrid of the 2..a bit more balanced. He is the same as PJ. Not much emphasis on D. At TxTech, Leach beat ‘em all at one time or another….just no titles….gaudy scores & stats but no titles. Alumni want titles!!
DawgNole
October 7th, 2012
1:03 am
As a Dawgs, Noles, and Braves fan, all I can say is, “Misery Loves Company.” Just hoping the Falcons can salvage a totally miserable weekend–but sure as hell not counting on it.
Silly Mutts
October 7th, 2012
1:13 am
Gts defense definitely blows though! Worst I have ever seen! Nobody on this d should be starting for a d1 school. Sorry I still blame pj for this mess. Regardless I don’t care about what happens to pj after he is booted from gt! I just want him booted and now!
Ken Sugiura
October 7th, 2012
1:39 am
just starting to go through comments. (just got home)
i’ll refrain from speculating about potential replacements for a coach who still has his job.
1 4 GT – I just goofed. i realized it after the game. i was working on a couple different things before the game and completely forgot to do the live blog. my apologies.
DevilDogOz
October 7th, 2012
1:47 am
Thanks Ken for raising the Bill Lewis ghost from it’s grave as the Tech program appears to have officially sunk back to that level on both the recruiting and coaching…..
Drexel Gal
October 7th, 2012
1:58 am
Orwin Smith has become the opponents’ SAFETY net.
Drexel Gal
October 7th, 2012
2:02 am
If nothing else … can the Jackets PLEASE go back to the GOLD HELMETS?
islander
October 7th, 2012
2:07 am
Tech has ceased to have any relavence in the world of college football and will stay that way as long as our current coaches are around. three losses giving up over 1,700 yards is clear indication that our DC is totally inept and that as long as PJ can play with his highschool offense that he could care less about the defense We either need to clean house and hire coaches with a prooven track record at the majorcollege level or drop down to club football and just maybe we night squeek ou a win over Emory?
Silly Mutts
October 7th, 2012
2:12 am
Ken….glad there wasnt a game blog…nothing worth saying for a bunch of losers!
Jostling
October 7th, 2012
2:35 am
Just gotta hang in there and keep fightin’!
JetBuzz
October 7th, 2012
3:06 am
OK Ken, you’re such a good guy we’ll give you a (deserved) pass….but we were all looking for you around kickoff! Felt like a fish out of water with the blog down.
How about the end zone option for a safety… just worse than HS offense, unfortunately (really). That plus its setup – the kick-off return debacle (again!), the blocked FG kick, the Q1 4th down miss on our 37, and a defense that didn’t force a single punt all day (including the usual suspect pass coverage), spells implosion and defeat against D-1/D-2/you name it – much less a ranked team.
At least the Jackets had life today, although I didn’t see much sidelines spirit like CPJ called for.
For that matter I didn’t see much on-field hype and chatter either. Just another day at the office.
And our O and TW showed again that we’re a “fair weather” VFR operation, not IFR for when the going gets tough. We can’t compete in the ACC (much less tougher conferences) without the ability to comeback and overcome game adversity. No team can.
Are we still rebuilding this team, or is this it?
brent
October 7th, 2012
6:15 am
I really don’t understand why you want Vad, It’s not Washington, it’s our defensive lay out.AG thinks he’s a rocket scientist with his complicated defence, that would slow any players down, and not let them fly around, for fear of missing an assignment. Don’t blame the offence, we scored enough points against a ranked team in an impossible atmosphere. It’s the special teams and the defence.Who can win a game , that gives up 600 yds?? Don’t blame the recruits, we have some good kids. Johnson should lighten up, and let them have some fun, and ag should go to the moon
Hal
October 7th, 2012
6:39 am
To all the Dawgs who posted. At least Techs weakness is consistent, Losing games late because of lack of depth and talent. Tech has always come to play in important games. But must say last night was a treat for all Tech fans who year after year watch UGA recruit some of the best talent and then squander it. How can any Dawg fan ever get over that game. If I were a UGA commit I would take a long look in the mirror and wonder “What the hell have I done?”
B. Dodd
October 7th, 2012
7:16 am
To CPJ: to paraphrase James Carville’s famous line: “it’s the defense, stupid”. The offense is scoring enough points to win games but the defense can’t keep Tech in the game. Obviouslly.
gtbme
October 7th, 2012
7:28 am
Ken, I was reading another article analyzing the game and this particular writer was praising Orwin Smith’s performance and his ability to get quick yards in open space. He predicted Smith to emulate Darren Sproles in the NFL in the years to come. What are your thoughts?
tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket
October 7th, 2012
7:33 am
I did see more fire today-but too many missed tackles and Tech was always a half step late or slow in making a stop for loss behind the line. Quit belly aching about the offense. No team in the country wants to play Tech. But the D must make some stopas on 3rd and long. But that is not just true for this year. it has been like that for years. How many times have we endured seeing the other team make it on 3rd and long?
Bobo
October 7th, 2012
7:45 am
At this point, maybe having an awful year and missing a bowl is the wake up call we need. I’m not ready to fire CPJ, but he does need the threat hanging over his head to force him to get rid of Groh and work 5X harder at recruiting.
Jfreak13713
October 7th, 2012
7:45 am
Life long tech fan but I must admit this thing is no longer working. It doesn’t matter why just like it doesn’t matter why the President of the U.S. can’t fix the economy. It just matters that neither are working very well and both have had PLENTY of time to produce results. Time to FIRE BOTH and give the next guy a chance to fix what is wrong.
bob
October 7th, 2012
7:49 am
Two games in a row where Johnson goes for it on 4th and short in the first offensive set in the first quarter and misses it giving the other team great field position instead of punting and backing them up.
Enough is enough!!!!
Jimnalph
October 7th, 2012
8:00 am
Those horrible honeycomb helmets, and jerseys, must be to blame.
WnE
October 7th, 2012
8:08 am
re:
Bobo
October 7th, 2012
7:45 am
At this point, maybe having an awful year and missing a bowl is the wake up call we need. I’m not ready to fire CPJ, but he does need the threat hanging over his head to force him to get rid of Groh and work 5X harder at recruiting.
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Any threat to CPJ would be an empty threat.
The GTAA cannot afford to pay Hewitt and CPJ to NOT work at GT, CPJ will be owed about $2.6MM for the next 4 years after this season.
Not only can we not fire him after this year, but we probably cannot fire him after next yr. either.
We’ll be lucky to have the money to fire him when he has 2- years remaining, about $5.2MM left for GT to buyout (Chan’s buyout was only $4.0MM total for 4 yrs left).
This means that CPJ will likely sign at LEAST 2 more Recruiting classes and still be the HC when the initial contacts are made for a 3rd additional Recruiting class.
In summary, it will get much worse before it gets better.
Negative Recruiting has hurt GT more than most schools, but now that everyone knows CPJ is basically a lame-duck HC that the school cannot afford to fire, look for upcoming Recruiting classes to get worse even by CPJ-standards.
Next yr. we’ll have a new QB, no Orwin, on Uzzi, 1 new CB, 2 new DLs.
Before you welcome the new Starters, remember that the guys behind the ones leaving, that you might want to criticize on their way out are BETTER than their back-ups now and there is no guarantee that back-ups moving into starting roles next yr. will make them better players.
All this is a result of DRad bringing in a triple-SLOPtion HC with NO BCS recruiting experience and then, upping his contract from $1.6MM to $2.3MM-$2.6MM after just one yr. when no other schools were bidding against GT.
GT was so desperate to beat UGA DRad overreacted to us beating one of the more flawed UGA teams in a long time.
And now we are going to pay for it by suffering for 7-10 seasons AFTER CPJ is finally let go.
moosedog
October 7th, 2012
8:11 am
kick the field goal……..
GTLIFE
October 7th, 2012
8:20 am
Can’t wait to start a rookie QB next year……Way to look ahead CPJ…..I mean we have so much to play for right?….
lewisbuzzard
October 7th, 2012
8:23 am
We just keep coming up short in critical parts of the game. Coaching, execution… not sure, but it is becoming a repetitive issue in each game. Still don’t have a kicker that we can count on to get it through the uprights or a defense that can make the big stop when needed. This puts even more pressure on the offense to convert on each and every series. I went back and looked at the stats from the game and we averaged more per play than Clemson but these numbers are hollowed without the W to back it up. We are just playing out the season now. I do believe that Groh will be gone after the season. If we don’t make a good hire here PJ will be next, not sure when but he will be in the crosshairs.
GT
October 7th, 2012
8:33 am
What I don’t understand is on some plays it takes Johnson several seconds on the sideline to tell the carrier coming in the game the play. When the carrier gets to the huddle it is already breaking and the play carrier says maybe two words to Washington. Then Washington goes out and calls the wrong play.
Missed field goals, missed plays at the goal line and no time outs at the end of the games because of sorry sideline management, if I remember right because of a defense that couldn’t substitute fast enough or get ready fast enough, poor clock management, this was a winnable game, lost.
wNE
October 7th, 2012
8:57 am
I gave up after the Miami debacle…I just don’t have faith in this team anymore…PJ and AG must go!
This just in....
October 7th, 2012
9:00 am
GT has been invited to the newest bowl. The We Suck Bowl where they will host one of the worst coached teams in America – the mighty UGA Bulldogs. The early over / under is 600 points and the latest lines says a tie after 56 OT’s when the game is called because the ref’s refused to run up and down the field one more time.
stinger
October 7th, 2012
9:12 am
PJ and his coaching staff must be fired.
NATIVE SON
October 7th, 2012
9:12 am
NO MATTER WHAT, ” I STILL LOVE MY JACKETS “. Paul Johnson IS right. A play here, a stop there; who knows. Only Losers call out other percieved losers, as they recognize their own traits
uafuneman
October 7th, 2012
9:14 am
When are we going to start scoring 60+ points a game so we can get back on the winning side . Al Groh is doing a great job. It’s not his fault the offense can’t score enough points.
uafuneman
October 7th, 2012
9:15 am
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uafuneman
October 7th, 2012
9:17 am
Fire Groh if you want, hire a new D.C., want matter if you don’t have the players. You can only coach up mediocrity so much.
Empty Seats
October 7th, 2012
9:22 am
Everyone settle down. pj has through the end of 2016 to get this right. Why the rush?
And congratulations to pj on his retirement plan!
Along with Paul Hewitts retirement plan and building projects pj is guaranteed to be at gt through 2016, so whats the big rush?
And for a cool $10,000,000 we get this product, his system installed with players that wound up on his team as he does not recruit effectively. Great choice for dc as well. Love the way dc hides from the media. Quite a man, he deserves a raise and lets say $8,000,000 for two more years.
But he choices being made by the athletic department are sound choices. No need to change a thing. Read the last NCAA findings. Admin cost scholarships and ACC Championship. Great way to support the football players. Everything is fine, no problems with his athletic administration.
Papa Doc
October 7th, 2012
9:42 am
Talent wins games; systems don’t matter that much in college. Spread options, 3/4 defense, shotgun, pistol, pro set, are all just ways to put good players in the position to make plays. Smallish and slow are ingredients in a recipe of losses. The 3/4 is a pro-style defense and, supposedly, players want to play in systems that lead to opportunities to play on Sunday. Yet, we have no lineman that will make that transition and only a few linebackers and d-backs who may. You can run any system with a few great players on each side of the ball supported by god players around them. Overall, team talent starting its downward move when Giff left. Most head coaches don’t travel and recruit until the deal is ready to close. Recruiting coordinators are the key.
USMC DAWG
October 7th, 2012
9:43 am
It drives me crazy when CPJ goes for 4th down when GT is still in the own territory early in the game. Punt the friggin ball and pin the other team deep in their own territory.
My Dawgs of Manhandled, so we have as big or bigger problem than Tech.
Support your team
October 7th, 2012
9:45 am
I just read the UGA blog…
Don’t be like them.
Support your team!
USMC DAWG
October 7th, 2012
9:48 am
“Talent wins games; systems don’t matter that much in college.”–Papa Doc
I have to disagree with you on this statement. Just look 45 miles north to Athens, GA.
You need talent, but I believe coaching is more important than your talent level.
I will agree with you that Tech needs to do a better job at recruiting top talent, but Coach Mark Richt proves that talent alone does NOT win Football games.
Tech is a decent defense away from being at the top of the ACC.
DOC 51
October 7th, 2012
9:58 am
All you have to do is look back at CPJ coaching history.He was fine at GSU and Hawaii where defense and close games don’t matter.At NAVY a (6-7 ) wins per yr. record is great.In big-boy games,(where defense and fourth quarter results are huge), his record is unacceptable.CPJ players hustle when they want to,in the particular games they want to.Whatever happened to playing hard every game.GT players can.t get up for 12 games.This program is unbelievable.
DOC 51
October 7th, 2012
10:05 am
The ACC is terrible in football.Check out the scores of teams that have beaten us this yr.VT,UM,& that powerhouse MTSU all got spanked again.When DUKE is one of your better teams,watch out.
Hate That
October 7th, 2012
10:20 am
CPJ, come to State!! We NEED you!
Atlanta Native
October 7th, 2012
10:23 am
Why don’t all you Dawg fans get on your on blog…what do you have to say about your teams performance from last night, seriously???
Do I hear silence?
tooltime234
October 7th, 2012
10:35 am
DOC 51 SEC teams have some bad losses too, see UL Monroe.
So?
October 7th, 2012
10:43 am
CPJ says team needs to score more. Wrong. Team needs to learn to defend better. And defense looks a step slow meaning they will be outclassed for the rest of the season. Six wins maybe seven. Unacceptable.
USMC DAWG
October 7th, 2012
10:45 am
“Why don’t all you Dawg fans get on your on blog…what do you have to say about your teams performance from last night, seriously???
Do I hear silence?”–Atlanta Native
Georgia Bulldogs got SPANKED by a much better team AND coach. Plain and simple.
That doesn’t mean that I don’t follow Tech and root for them to win (except that one day per year)
You aren’t the ONLY Atlanta Native. Get over it!
ghostofgoff
October 7th, 2012
10:59 am
Funny how the UGA smack talk stopped once their “game” kicked off. At least put up a fight you leghumpin puppies!
Who Cares?
October 7th, 2012
11:17 am
@ Trolldawg daddy, October 6th, 2012, 7:12 pm Ya think? I’m betting they won’t be by Monday morning. Oh, and yes, the jackets have given a few away this season, but refresh my memory here. Who’s beat Tech by 28 points so far this season?
georgia tech breakin neckz
October 7th, 2012
11:26 am
no defense no defense no defense
georgia tech breakin neckz
October 7th, 2012
11:27 am
but uga got spanked too and the falcons are on point.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
11:41 am
USMC D……is a good guy….leave him alone…have seen no trolling posts from him….one of the dawgs that shows class….what else you expect from a leatherneck….thanks for your service USMC D….
Nate
October 7th, 2012
12:53 pm
Worst defense I’ve ever seen. BTW, congrats to Duke, solid win and now 4-1.
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1:01 pm
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Empty Seats
October 7th, 2012
1:02 pm
pj is using the same recruiting technique he used at navy.
Is it honorable to command such high salaries and produce this product? This is a question for the entire A Department and Board of Directors to consider please.
I thought pj had higher standards. I stand corrected.
The Tower
October 7th, 2012
1:05 pm
A loss is a loss, is a loss, is a loss, is a loss, is a loss!!!!!
GT Fan
October 7th, 2012
1:26 pm
Unfortunately, I think GT may not win another game this season. Maybe Maryland (but they played GT tough last season in Atlanta). Teams that can pass (BC, Duke, UGA, UNC) are going to continue the light show vs. GT’s pass D. There’s 0-4. And BYU has the best D GT will face this season. That leaves the Turtles as the only “pick’em” game remaining.
YES, the Cougars’ D is better than UGA’s. I’m a former GT season tix holder that moved to Utah 9 months ago…BYU’s D is STOUT! GT scores less than 20 vs. the Cougars, even after BYU plays Oregon St on 10/13, then travels to Notre Dame on 10/20. After playing those 2, GT will be like a prep team to BYU. I’m attending next Saturday’s BYU-Oregon St game to get a second live look at their D (already saw the Cougar’s O lose to Utah). But I already know it’s good! More of a get familiar with the area in anticipation of GT coming to Provo in 2013.
...Take The Wheel
October 7th, 2012
1:34 pm
I hope PJ plays Lee more.
Not that I think Lee would be any better than Washington if there are no other changes to go with it. But he at least needs to get more practice running the offense. And also so that you could all see that there’s only so much any ONE player can do. That is unless you all think Lee can throw the ball, block for himself, catch it and run in the TD. … And then line up on defense and make some stops too!
There’s a mountain of things that need to improve.
GT Fan
October 7th, 2012
1:39 pm
Further regarding BYU ……….. They are now playing their FRESHMAN QB (Taysom Hill) over the Senior (Riley Nelson). IT’S GLARINGLY OBVIOUS THE FRESHMAN IS BETTER THAN THE SENIOR. The guy can run & throw, and he’s tough.
However, Hill is only starting now (and won’t be losing his job unless he gets injured) b/c Nelson got hurt. Nelson’s healthy now, but it took an injury for the better QB to get a chance to show he’s better. That’s exactly what’s going to have to happen at GT for Vad Lee to become the starter.
That’s really the case with all positions (i.e. Isiah Johnson on D). PJ praised this kid so much when he arrived at GT that he ain’t going anywhere unless he gets injured or suspended, i.e. (again) Daniel Drummond (we all see who GT’s best LB is now – JHD). He only got his opp b/c DD was suspended.
ylojkt
October 7th, 2012
1:40 pm
I’m a fan of CPJ and think he has the system that obviously works on offense, when you score as much as we do, offense is not the problem. That being said, it seems like this season he has lost his concept of when we should run certain plays and what type of offense is appropriate in certain situations. We should have run short passes and crossing routes behind the LB’s when we had the ball before halftime, we needed a score right then and wasted a big opportunity. We shouldn’t have wasted the clock with players still running in each individual play, they should have come in with two or three plays and run hurry up, maximizing our potential. To see what we did there was disappointing and seemed to take a bit of wind out of the offense for the rest of the game.
When it’s painfully obvious that with our defense letting our opponent score at will we have to score on every offensive series, we can’t waste opportunities like we did Saturday. Al Groh needs to be fired and CPJ needs to teach this team a two minute drill like every other football team on the planet.
Delbert D.
October 7th, 2012
1:42 pm
BYU is winning (or not losing, as it may be) with their defense.
Jacket Fan
October 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
Why not Vad Lee? Season’s over, might as well get him some work. #13 will not play at the next level in any capacity. Only 2 games we have left in which we have any possibility of winning – BC and MD, and they are not gimmes. With 4 – 8 as our best possible outcome, why not get Johnson and staff to resign now?
GT Fan
October 7th, 2012
2:01 pm
BINGO! Delbert D.
BYU’s D is very good, to say the least. Through 6 games, only 53 pts have been put up against BYU (24 by Utah). Take away a 47yd fumble ret TD by Utah, and on 46 pts have been scored vs. BYU’s D. That’s 29 pts by the other 5 opponents, combined (Wash St, Boise St, Hawaii, Utah St, and Weber St).
GT’s last 3 opponents have tallied 47, 49, and 42 respectively. GT has scored 31, 28, and 36 in those 3 games, and are 0-3. With a BYU-like D, GT would be 6-0.
Defense wins championships!
GT Fan
October 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
Jacket Fan … you need to delve a little deeper into BC …….. they can PASS. A positive for GT is that they get the off week to rest/heal & prepare for BC. Unfortunately, Al Groh has NO solution to consistently stop a good passing O.
IMO, only Maryland is a “pick’em” ….. I think all the others are losses, unless PJ/AG make some personnel changes.
GT Fan
October 7th, 2012
2:08 pm
Also, it was another stellar day for PJ’s “player too good to be standing on the sidelines” …. Synjyn Days.
PJ is beginning to look like a baffoon. Add to it the lack of finding ways to put the ball in track star B.Snoddy’s hands.
Did PJ’s classis “undisclosed injury” sideline BJ Bostic & Deon Hill yesterday?
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
2:09 pm
GT Fan….FWIW….I think so too!!!
Delbert D.
October 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
BC is in pretty much the situation as Tech. They have had 3 very tough losses, and the inexplicable one against Army. Tech gets a break with them playing FSU this week. I haven’t given up; I got my tickets to the BC game via FedEx this past Thursday.
Buzz 2011
October 7th, 2012
2:20 pm
@Your Bulldog Daddy………..I wish my Jackets were as goos as your Dawgs and could handle ranked teams. The Dogs impress totally……………………The Dawgs really shine against SEC power teams.. Wow, wow wow………….Richt is yo Daddy ………………
Grinch
October 7th, 2012
2:27 pm
Vad won’t see the field again this year. CPJ is just too loyal to his senior QB and may as well finish it out with him. It will eventually cost CPJ his job in the end, but he’s remaining loyal to his QB.
By the way, it’s sad when you honestly (and I mean with all of my heart) knew that Clemson could score whenever it wanted to. Our defense is that bad. Clemson’s offense is good but I seriously think Duke will roll up 40+ on Tech. We won’t win another game and I”m not just saying that b/c I’m pissed at this team. I honestly believe our defense can’t compete with anyone in NCAA right now. Our offense will at some point, give up hope and this team will become divided b/c they can’t rely on our D for one freaking series…..put a fork in them boys….
GT Fan
October 7th, 2012
2:56 pm
How about this stellar, DEFENSIVE STAT ……
Holding a 4th qtr lead in the past 3 games, GT has been outscored, 17-3, 14-7, and 14-0 in those games. Outscored 45-10 in those 45 minutes, and a nice 0-3 record to show for it.
Al Groh is awesome! I know GT is lacking depth, in a big way, but AG should be able find a way to skeem at D to have won at least one of the past 3 games ….
Silly Mutts
October 7th, 2012
3:13 pm
Pj is the best head coach in the country! Give him a 20 year extension and pay al groh a real salary! Forget recruiting the system works! It only took 3 years get our defense to this point! Best gt ever!!! Gt accepts that it is a 6 win team every year. Winning Bowl games and beating uga are never going to happen so just accept reality! The ACC sucks and gt is the best team in it year in and year out!!! We are the best because we only lose by a little most of the time. Oh we have the academics to prove we are the best! So there everyone else in the country! We have the best football program in the country because we are gt and are engineers! What a bunch of LOSERS on this board!
Silly Mutts
October 7th, 2012
3:22 pm
Gt football is dirt 1) crappy no pass offense 2) crappy special teams 3) no defense 4) loser coaches and yes that includes it’s HC!!! 4) loser players and most importantly 5) loser fans who accept loserdome!!!! You deserve to lose every game and become duke and vandy!!!!!!!!
dry dirt road
October 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
CPJ better watch out or he’ll get fired. I saw 3 calls he made that were like earlier in the season, 2 dive plays after big gains that wasted one out of four plays since they gained no yards, and one trip opt off to the closest sidelines, attempting to tight rope walk it, didn’t work, next was fourth down and punted. If Tech only wins 2 games this year CPJ will get fired probably. At least the all white unis and helmets were there and looked good, but the pink socks are starting to creep back in, maybe why Tech lost. Clemson had more complex offensive formations, but the movements were mainly to the sides, thus harmless.
MORGANTECH
October 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
@ S.M you say what we are losers for being on this board ,yet YOU are on here alot .So what does that make you.If you hate tech so much,pull for U.G.A. you would fit right in.
dry dirt road
October 7th, 2012
3:50 pm
I think the reason Tech loses is because of Buzz. I am a Tech grad, and I don’t like Buzz at all. I don’t like all Tech clothing and decal merchandise to have Buzz on them and be forced to identify with the Buzz mascot that has an unidentified person inside of the costume. As a male, I would like to know the gender of whoever is Buzz, and the race. Now I did not have any problem with the yj in the 60’s and 70’s when I was at Tech. There was only one mainly, the T-Club one, which the student body also could use in merchandise. That yj is not available at Tech or anywhere now. Nobody at Tech got to vote on if they wanted the Buzz art to take over all yjs at Tech, it was forced on us. No questionaires were mailed out to alums asking what their attitudes were about the proposed Buzz art that was to link up with the costumed mascot at games. Also, now at Tech no alum clothing merchandise is sold at all. So the alums get alienated alot at Tech these days, and what do they watch for football or basketball from Tech? The message they get is that Tech wants them to get lost, they just want their Alum Assn monetary donations. Clemson has Iptay, and they don’t change that tiger paw symbol ever. Tech decided to change its yj to Buzz.
ga tech fan
October 7th, 2012
4:00 pm
They played a good game until the 4th qtr. I dont think its the offense, because they are always breaking long plays and scoring points. I guess defense is what wins championships! need a pass rush badly!! Go tech beat bc in 2 weeks!
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
4:22 pm
the dwags are fit to be tied….way worse than us….near 900 posts on one blog….there are several wanting to fire the coach….a man that is in his 12th year & has won 110 +/- games for them….I just cannot have any sympathy for them though
StanH
October 7th, 2012
4:27 pm
Pitiful…pitiful…pitiful….Cpj needs to man up and leave and take his high school coaching and groh with him…….tech couldn’t beat a good high school team…..pitiful…pitiful…pitiful
...Take The Wheel
October 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
As fans we should not give up on the team just as we don’t want them to give up on the season. I’m sure they all want to win even more than we do. If we are truly fans then lets just rally behind them.
I was at the Clemson game and I have NEVER seen our stadium as packed and electric as Death Valley was. We typically beat Clemson, but that didnt stop there fans from getting behind them being that extra player when they need extra energy! It was so loud at times I’m surprised they could here the plays when they were called.
So while some of you get on here and trash the coaches, the players and even the AD ask yourselves how you rate as a fan AND START THERE!
ga tech fan
October 7th, 2012
4:43 pm
Lets pack bobby dodd stadium vs boston college! Support the team when things arent going good, Yeah they have lost 3 in a row, but they still have games to play! Lets support them!!
GTJohn
October 7th, 2012
4:50 pm
Bottom line – GT must score 50 points minimum to win.
GTJohn
October 7th, 2012
4:53 pm
And 50 points is possible if they set their mind to it.
BillCurrie
October 7th, 2012
4:58 pm
All we need is an easier schedule. I bet we look much better against BC, Duke, North Carolina. Then we can puff our chests out and talk about how awesome our team and coaches are.
joel
October 7th, 2012
5:36 pm
What happen to “old time ” fundamental football. You build your team around solid defense, don’t turn the ball over and you PUNT ON 4TH DOWN , especially on when you are on your side of the 50 yd line !!!!!!!!!
Smyrna Gold
October 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
All things considered: traditiion, location, academics, coaching, fan base, facilities, apathy, this has to be the very worst football program in division 1 football. Absolutely pathetic.
Silly Mutts
October 7th, 2012
5:42 pm
Smoke is in the air! Gt accepts its fate and thus becomes the automatic victory for the never done anything teams in the country! Dukes 3rd team will put up 50 against this piss poor team! Support the garbage! Can’t wait to see bc put 60 on this team! I will continue to laugh and pj will continue to get rich!!!! Pathetic!!!!
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
5:53 pm
In all seriousness, I will never quit hoping & pulling for the Jackets to win. I regret just sitting on by duff at the MTSU game in the 2nd half when it became obvious the guys just were not mentally into it. I was stunned at what I was seeing. As long as it is plain the guys are trying, I will be urging them on. But, I still have the right to vent about what I perceive to be wrong. I am much more upset at what I see as poor coaching now instead of poor playing. We DO have enough good ball players to at least be competitive (in spite of what “Carnack” says) against all but the very best teams, & maybe them too. Selah.
Smyrna Gold
October 7th, 2012
5:57 pm
@take the wheel
When you learn how to spell, we’ll talk. Meanwhile this program does not deserve our support. It’s too expensive and disappointing supporting the likes of CPJ, Al Groh and DRAD. Tech should not be playing Div 1 football. Period.
Tech Guy
October 7th, 2012
5:57 pm
PJ can’t recruit as well as Chan Gailey, and that is the major promblem. Chan’s recruiting was getting better each year, and a number of his recruits are playing on Sunday. Had he stayed, we wouldn’t have a losing record. He was being paid less than half of PJ’s salary. AD Rad needs to go.
Smyrna Gold
October 7th, 2012
6:02 pm
@Joel
You are right, but CPJ is too dumb or egotistical to realize that. SO SAD.
Smyrna Gold
October 7th, 2012
6:06 pm
@Tech Guy
I think DRAD is a big part of the problem. Why not try and hire South Carolina’s defensive coordinator?? I think he would be an improvement over what we have now.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
6:06 pm
Georgie showed USCe how they play football……………………………….the “OLD MAN WAY” ROTFLMFAO WOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOO JACKETS THWGeorgie
Smyrna Gold
October 7th, 2012
6:09 pm
I’m talking about Head Coach, not defensive coordinator.
VegasTiger
October 7th, 2012
6:42 pm
Hey bulldawgdaddy, who’s team is pathetic?
yeller bug
October 7th, 2012
7:06 pm
As one person previously implied, “Maybe the new uniforms are unlucky.”
Financially, I think we’re stuck with CPJ until 2016. The unfortunate part of our stupid contracts is that financially speaking, there is more incentive for our coaches to want to be fired than to do well. Who wouldn’t want to be fired, get $10M and then go get another job and get double pay. To all his critics, CPJ is smiling and saying “Fire me please!” Our only hope is that his ego is greater than his greed.
CAG’s contract ends this year and he’s a goner. We can only hope that his pride/ego will keep him working hard to solve the multitude of problems on D.
I hope Vad gets to play a lot against BC because he’s the future. I also hope that CPJ recognizes that maybe Vad is more suited to the pistol than the TO and he adjusts his offense to suit personnel.
I guess we’ll see and get to write and either complain or rejoice about it. NCSU beat FSU so anything can happen on a ball field.
joel
October 7th, 2012
7:10 pm
Hey guys. Just checked the vegas odds for next week and we are only a 2 point underdog against ” Bye Week”. What conference do they play in ?
New Idea
October 7th, 2012
7:15 pm
Future is not bright. Unless GT figures a way to bring in some more talent, fan support is declining.
Technology Majors are not attractive to today’s Athlete, need some non technical majors besides Management. Need different Offense with more passing – maybe the pure spread with just some TO.
Need New Defense Coordinator. CPJ is paid Millions to recruit a few d1 and a lot of d2 players. I think most GT fans are about fed up with the overall GT commitment to athletics. I sure won’t be in the stands ever again unless I see a commitment from BOR, The Hill, AD and CPJ (or new coach).
Sunday Night Unwind, 10.07.12… « Just Charlie
October 7th, 2012
8:13 pm
[...] sure you’ve heard by now that the state of Georgia was 0-for-South-Carolina yesterday. The Jackets made a game out of it before the inevitable conclusion, but UGAg surprised everyone with how sorry they [...]
ME Jacket
October 7th, 2012
8:36 pm
“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” George Santayana.
Comments from the GT blogs this entire year continue to echo: “Al Groh’s Defense is terrible” and “Tevin is a nice young man, but panics in clutch situations, when the offense needs him most.” I am not making suggestions as to how to fix our issues, but it is interesting that Jeff Schultz wrote an article that identified these exact issues and sentiments last year, just after the 2011 Georgia game. Attached is the link. Question remains, “Do we really have to continue repeating history?”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/11/26/georgia-tech-drilled-and-problems-start-with-grohs-defense/
The Old Coot
October 7th, 2012
8:47 pm
Here’s a thought:
Duke has 5 wins right now and has a better football coach than Tech.
jmonty
October 7th, 2012
8:50 pm
Again…. Please tell me where all you “the defense is better” people are??? I told everyone… Day one.. Al Groh sucked.. I told everyone… Day one… The “D” was not better… VT was great??? Really??? I don’t understand why they keep Groh.. What?? The “D” is going to suck if he leaves?? Too late..!!!! CPJ should be fired for hiring “no show”… I hope Groh goes to coach for some middle school team. He should be banned from the GT campus for being legally stupid.
jmonty
October 7th, 2012
8:53 pm
@ Old Coot…. Duke will probably beat Tech. I really don’t know if we’ll win another game this season. The “D” is that bad… It’s past being the Titantic. We’ve already sunk.
jmonty
October 7th, 2012
8:59 pm
By the way…. I predicted 48-35…. I was pretty close… We can’t lose next week at least.. Only because it’s a bye…. After that we got Boston College… If we fire Groh… We may win.
jmonty
October 7th, 2012
9:08 pm
If anyone thinks BC, Duke and North Carolina are easy wins… They are dumber than they look. GT’s defense couldn’t stop anyone. 1/2 the High Schools in the state could score on them. Thanks to dumbazz Groh…. our “D” is an shambles… The team will probably miss a bowl for the first time in many years… CPJ should fire him during the bye and get someone how knows what they are doing. Groh can effing go drive off a cliff for all I care. What a useless waste of flesh….
Arob
October 7th, 2012
9:27 pm
Defense will never be adequate as long as PJ refuses to make changes to his offense.
How does the defense get ready to face teams that throw the ball and spread it around? Answer is they can’t! We do not have the personnel or systems to simulate or give our defense the proper practice and preparation to stop a traditional offense. When everyone on the offense is recruited to fit the triple option, how can you even come close to simulating what we will face week in and week out? Our talent on defense is not this bad, they just don’t get the proper training. Just like in business, untrained employees will give you bad results.
Hate to see this happening to our program…..
ME Jacket
October 7th, 2012
9:30 pm
@ Arob, Agreed…
2ndSaint
October 7th, 2012
9:38 pm
I like Paul Johnson, but it maybe time to let him go. The ACC is expanding and becoming a premier conference and this brand of football is not going to win us a Championship. We need to go out and get a Big time coach and start getting back in the National Title conversation. Is Bobby Ross still available?
Bobby
October 7th, 2012
9:41 pm
@Your Bulldawg Daddy Your team is pathetic!!!!!!!
We seemed to have stopped seeing your addy after the 1st quarter of the USC game. I wonder why.
WnE
October 7th, 2012
9:49 pm
re:
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
5:53 pm
In all seriousness, I will never quit hoping & pulling for the Jackets to win. I regret just sitting on by duff at the MTSU game in the 2nd half when it became obvious the guys just were not mentally into it. I was stunned at what I was seeing. As long as it is plain the guys are trying, I will be urging them on. But, I still have the right to vent about what I perceive to be wrong. I am much more upset at what I see as poor coaching now instead of poor playing. We DO have enough good ball players to at least be competitive (in spite of what “Carnack” says) against all but the very best teams, & maybe them too. Selah.
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Since you think we do have “enough good ballplayers”, think about this:
When CPJ first took over we had 4 future NFL DLs on the field at the same time in Wommack’s 4-3, we had a future NFL draftee at Safety (Burnett) and a CB that got a FA tryout and was on a practice squad for at least 1 yr. (Jahi Word-Daniels).
2 of our OLs got a sniff in the NFL Cord Howard & Andrew Gardner, not to mention our WRs, Bey-Bey & Cone, RBs (Dwyer & Allen), our QB (Nesbitt) was such an elite physical specimen he got a yr. in the NFL at Safety via the practice squad and eventually made the active roster.
From that list above we had MANY PLAYERS represented on the All-ACC 1st or 2nd Team.
Now compare that to this yrs. team & last yrs. team, last yr. we only had Uzzi on the 1st team all-ACC and I think we had Attouchou or Burnett as a 2nd team LB and THAT’S IT!
This yr. we won’t have ANY PLAYERS make 1st or 2nd Team All-ACC!
If you cannot recognize that kind of MASSIVE TALENT DRAIN over a “short” 3-yr. window, then you are supporting CPJ to point that it is hurting GT FB as a program.
The anti-WnE crap was cute for a short while but now you and SuperSize and your “merry band of followers” are now coming across as delusional.
Fans from other colleges are reading these blogs and are wondering how a fanbase can have such a LOW CFB-IQ when the problems are quite obvious to all outsiders.
Dook & Md. will have more all-ACC 1st & 2nd teamers than will GT this season, and that is all CPJ’s fault.
We just don’t have the “groceries” to cook the meals that the fanbase wants to eat!
At the end of the day I was right a long time ago and I am still right and you and your
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You won’t become a better GT FB fan until you OWN the statement above!
WnE
October 7th, 2012
9:50 pm
At the end of the day I was right a long time ago and I am still right and you and your merry band of followers are wrong now and have been wrong for a very long time.
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You won’t become a better GT FB fan until you OWN the statement above!
Papa Doc
October 7th, 2012
10:03 pm
I’ve sat in the same seats in the new north end zone since they were built. I am a Tech fan. I will keep going to games to pull for the team. I will keep cheering and singing the fight song.
But, I don’t see this getting better over time. I hope I’m wrong.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
10:06 pm
You big goof….all I said was “good enough to at least be competitive”….I said nothing more than that & you want to call me out….go tak a flying leap off of a really tall building and sail your diatribes as far as you can….I’ve forgotten more football than you will ever know….fool
Al Bundy
October 7th, 2012
10:40 pm
WnE is right in regards to the talent level at GT. I watched the game and I don’t think there is one all ACC player on this team. I also watched UGA vs. USC and I would say there is not one GT player that would start on either UGA or USC. Our future doesn’t look good and worse yet, we are stuck with this coaching staff for a long time.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
10:56 pm
Look Al, I am not saying GT is as talented as the good teams, but we could be competitive with most & at least have a chance to steal a win if they were not careful. Recruiting is lacking and must be improved if GT is to have better teams. No denying that fact. GT needs some studs in key positions on defense. No denying that either. But we do have some good ball players. I think Groan is gone after this season if not before. A new DC will want to hire his own staff. CPJ probably be around at least thru 2013 unless things get even worse.
WnE
October 7th, 2012
11:08 pm
re:
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
10:56 pm
Look Al, I am not saying GT is as talented as the good teams, but we could be competitive with most & at least have a chance to steal a win if they were not careful. Recruiting is lacking and must be improved if GT is to have better teams. No denying that fact. GT needs some studs in key positions on defense. No denying that either. But we do have some good ball players. I think Groan is gone after this season if not before. A new DC will want to hire his own staff. CPJ probably be around at least thru 2013 unless things get even worse.
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Please list our “good FB players” and after you list them please list the Teams in the SEC that they would START for?
Thank you in advance.
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
11:16 pm
I’m pulling a “Carnack” & gonna ignore your question. I’m a half full kinda guy & you are chicken little….”the sky is falling, the sky is falling”……………………………………………….
1 4 GT
October 7th, 2012
11:17 pm
or the little boy that cried “WOLF, WOLF”
fan
October 7th, 2012
11:48 pm
Georgia Tech is a sorry team.
dry dirt road
October 8th, 2012
6:27 am
Tech should run plays with any new center by having the qb lined up in pistol/wildcat/shotgun formations to avoid l o s snap errors such as Catlin Alford made, learn from lesson, like learn from shotgun clinic put on for Tech by Russell of NC State two years ago in Atl.
dry dirt road
October 8th, 2012
6:44 am
Tech at least won against Clemson and VT in the uni dept. Those all white unis are what Tech needed badly after the darker gold always, and the jacket nest, honeycomb hexagons are cool art. I went out and found a jar of honeycomb honey at chain grocery store after seeing those, and it is good honey. The art I don’t like is Buzz. A return to the yj from ‘69-’73 is needed, the same yj the T-Club jackets had with the yj patch on them, the ones worn by Chick Granning’s team, the player who had his jaw broken by Darwin Holt of Alabama, thus causing BD to decide to drop out of the SEC. Why have Buzz after this Tech history? Is it the goal to make Tech forget about Chick Granning? How would you like to wear a Tech sweatshirt or t-shirt with Buzz on it and not know that the person inside the Buzz costume is a female? That would coincide with the pink, powder puff football socks and black thigh high stockings Tech has worn…on a gridiron? Maybe for powder puff football from the 60’s. I see some pro teams are beginning to wear pink. I believe the Patriots wore pink shoes yesterday, or maybe it was the Broncos. These are immoral signs for sports. A guy should get a haircut and be a guy.
Al Bundy
October 8th, 2012
8:50 am
1 4 GT, There is no question we can score points (except in the 4th quarter) but that isn’t enough. You can blame much of our defensive issues on coaching but at the end of the day, if your players aren’t good enough no amount of coaching in the world is going to save you. By the time a player get’s to this level he should know how to tackle or cover a receiver. Our guys can’t tackle and they can’t cover. That is a serious lack of talent and GT is recruiting more of them! That means more of the same for years to come!
old dog
October 8th, 2012
9:14 am
Her I am, and humbled. Remember, when we were all blogging back and forth before the season, old dog told you our o-line would be exposed against the better teams. We bullied up on the lesser teams, but against S.C. you can break it down like you want but upfront was where we got dominated. If we played them again next week, the same thing would happen. We were not good in any facet, but mainly up front. So, as I stated prior to the season, y’all need a defense and we need a line…….ain’t changed much, has it?
The Dulous, '70
October 8th, 2012
10:09 am
ANOTHER “GUTLESS” PERFORMANCE BY THE NOW FAMOUS AL GROH “GUTLESS UNDERMANNED” DEFENSE.
Poor recruiting by Coach PJ has caught up with him….miss Chan Gailey yet? At least he could recruit and his players were not “gutless”.
Vad Lee apparently does not need the expereince this year.
Oh yeah? If you think this year is bad….wait ’til next year.
The Dulous, '70
October 8th, 2012
10:12 am
Also, if you are waiting on AD Rattle No Nads to make a move, better get comfortable……remember how long it took him to get rid of Coarch Blewwitt?
GTfan2012
October 8th, 2012
10:49 am
I am certainly disappointed, but just like last year after 6 games, things are never as good or as bad as they seem. I think GT has about average talent compared to the last 15 years or so. We usually have somewhere between 4-8 players that eventually make it to the NFL on our roster at any given time. Right now, if I had to name a few that have the potential, I’d say Hunt Days, Attouchu, Sweeting, Young, Smith, Mason, and Uzzi…. Sounds about average to me.
I would like to make a public bet with WnE. I believe GT is still a very talented team. I believe that our coaches haven’t forgotten how to coach. If GT goes 6-7 or worse, I’ll leave here and never post again (I’ll even ask Ken to block me). But if GT goes 8-5 or better, WnE has to leave and never return. Will you take my bet WnE?!?!?!
GTVegas
October 8th, 2012
10:52 am
Groh has got to go. I really don’t care that there aren’t coordinators available mid-season. Let an assistent do the job, maybe even Julian Burnett. Let him wear his own #40 jersay to the game as an interim coach, can’t be any worse.
I don’t blame CPJ for going for it on fourth down from his own side of the 50 given the expectation of our defensive performance. He knows that we need to score on almost every possession to overcome Al Groh.
We can’t afford a head coaching change now, not that I condone that move, anyway so we need to fix what we can. I actually like CPJ’s affense and believe that scoring 30+ points per game should get you the win. Call me old school, but defense wins games. Our lack of defense, any defense, changes the offensive gameplan.
As for a new defensive coordinator, we need someone young. Take a chance on someone like Lance Thompson, very good guy, young (relatively) and energetic.
Carly
October 8th, 2012
11:18 am
Oh well……….that was last weeks game………………….
WnE
October 8th, 2012
11:21 am
re:
GTfan2012
October 8th, 2012
10:49 am
I am certainly disappointed, but just like last year after 6 games, things are never as good or as bad as they seem. I think GT has about average talent compared to the last 15 years or so. We usually have somewhere between 4-8 players that eventually make it to the NFL on our roster at any given time. Right now, if I had to name a few that have the potential, I’d say Hunt Days, Attouchu, Sweeting, Young, Smith, Mason, and Uzzi…. Sounds about average to me.
I would like to make a public bet with WnE. I believe GT is still a very talented team. I believe that our coaches haven’t forgotten how to coach. If GT goes 6-7 or worse, I’ll leave here and never post again (I’ll even ask Ken to block me). But if GT goes 8-5 or better, WnE has to leave and never return. Will you take my bet WnE?!?!?!
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That’s a sucker bet!
GT & CPJ gets fat on weak competition and based on your scenario is allowed to LOSE to UGA yet again to end the season 7-5 and then it is a 50-50 shot in the bowl game vs. a VERY WEAK bottom tier ACC-Bowl to get to 8-5.
GT has been so bad the first half of the season, that a 7-5 finish would lead to a very crappy Bowl especially since the ACC is clearly the WEAKEST of all the BCS conferences including the Big East.
If you really believed that GT had the “talent” you listed above then you would make that same BET and wager that GT goes 6-0 over the last 6 games to go 8-4 AND we have to also win a BOWL that would make CPJ & Co. 9-4 to end the season.
You are basically saying that you have FAITH in our TALENT, yet you make an allowance for CPJ to LOSE to UGA yet again!
How much faith is that?
Will you go for my counter-bet?
5150 UOAD
October 8th, 2012
11:32 am
Any TECH players get their house Egged & Toilet Papered?
Tech fans back your team and coaches.
Be mad at a loss and want better but NEVER take it out on Players and Coaches.
WnE
October 8th, 2012
11:38 am
re:
GTfan2012
October 8th, 2012
10:49 am
I am certainly disappointed, but just like last year after 6 games, things are never as good or as bad as they seem. I think GT has about average talent compared to the last 15 years or so. We usually have somewhere between 4-8 players that eventually make it to the NFL on our roster at any given time. Right now, if I had to name a few that have the potential, I’d say Hunt Days, Attouchu, Sweeting, Young, Smith, Mason, and Uzzi…. Sounds about average to me.
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Of those guys you listed Hunt-Days has the best shot, he closes quickly to the ball and has shown good speed and change of direction.
Uzzi & Mason are HORRIBLE pass blockers and are short and don’t have the “long arms” that NFL scouts are looking for, also Uzzi has had a problem with injuries so his chances are looking dimmer by the day.
Attouchu has disappeared and right now he’s looking like a Free Agent guy or a 7th round draft pick, JA-45 looks nothing like Daryl Smith, Key Fox or Philip Wheeler guys that were drafted in the 3rd-4th round range, Attouchu is not the can’t miss NFL guy that he projected to be after his T-Fr. season, basically JA-45 hasn’t gotten any better since then.
Orwin Smith has no defined position, he’s a high 4.5s or low 4.6s guy without much size, at the NFL level guys Orwin’s size need to run in the 4.4s with great acceleration & change of direction, he hasn’t run between the tackles at GT, he hasn’t pass-blocked at GT, and he has only avg. 7 touches per game from scrimmage over his GT career, add in all that and then take into account that Dwyer & Allen were 6th & 7th round draft picks and it is looking like Orwin won’t be drafted at all, he’ll have to make an NFL club as a FA.
Sweeting has looked terrible!
Nothing else need to be said about Sweeting.
Lou Young has size & some athleticism, he has a better chance than Sweeting.
From your list, 2 guys have a pretty god shot at the NFL, the rest is just optimism on your part..
Before you dismiss my analysis, keep in mind that NFL GMs are a lot more critical than I am.
TIGERGREAAT
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Tech- don’t feel too bad with your defense, Ours is about as bad or worse. Both have to be perfect on the O side or they will lose.
Ramblin Man
October 8th, 2012
2:18 pm
I still have faith in CPJ as an offensive coach, but I do find blame with him for the defensive problems. He hired Groh so there for he carries some of the blame for the struggles. The offense is under presure to score every time they have the ball and no offense can do that every game. This is causing the players to try and force things and think to much as well as making CPJ try and force some things he should not and shy away from some things as well. Groh WILL be gone after this season, but somebody has to find a way to dial in some plays that these players can perfrom and give the TEAM a chance in the next six games. I am holding a glimmer of hope that they can take 4 of the next six. The team showed a lot of effort in the loss to Clemson and hopefully the players and coaches can build off that.
North Ave Trade School
October 8th, 2012
2:20 pm
Fire Paul Johnson!!!
GTfan
October 8th, 2012
2:30 pm
I will say it again PJ is a lousy big game coach 3-18 vs Miami, VT, UGA and bowl games. Add in loss to MTSU. Time for a coach that has a system you can recreuit 4 and 5 star kids too. Not some HS gimmick offense. Not Grohs fault on D either. What top defense recruit wants to be cut block for 6 months in games and practice and risk a serious injury??? REALY PEOPLE.
Carly
October 9th, 2012
2:04 pm
Well, Groh’s gone……………….Is your b!itching gonna continue?